MVFC 2016 Edition

[underdawg]

You don't need to repeat yourself bro! I'm tired of trolling you. Fact is UNI will probably win--should win at home on Homecoming. You're a great fan Clentz and I've always admired the Cats' football program. I think it will be a great game

[clenz]

Trolling me? Man, at this point I'm pretty hard to troll. I just look for fun on this board and as annoying as you and houndawg are, it's still more entertaining than 90% of my other discussions.

I'm also aware of what you're going to type before you type it. Just as you with me.

[Houndawg]

I seriously doubt any MFVC team, with the exception of possibly NDSU, will hold them to 14 points this season.

And if you think Montana plays defense like the average Big Sky team, you haven't been paying attention.

I said "ray of hope" not "sure thing". UNI should win easily on Homecoming after a bye week, against an unranked opponent, and still smarting from their disappointing OOC.

Obviously SIU will try to exploit UNIs secondary and the match ups are favorable - if Straughn can find time to throw. Just as obviously UNI will look to run up their TOP against a smaller Saluki d line. Could be a good game if the Salukis get a break or two and the homer UNI refs don't overdo it.

[Thumper 76]

and the homer UNI refs don't overdo it.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/6fced82941575e2e43a406fcb3152338/tumblr_mpecmcUSfW1qglee5o1_500.gif

xlolx

[BisonFan02]

Could a bro get a quick MVFC natty count? xlolx :D

[clenz]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/6fced82941575e2e43a406fcb3152338/tumblr_mpecmcUSfW1qglee5o1_500.gif

xlolx
UNI getting homer calls.....oh good lord, he's lost it.

[Sycamore62]

Id like to reiterate what Clenz said.....

It's interesting he wants to point at the yards they had and that it was out of the norm for the UNI defense. Yep, it was. To assume that your running back is going to have 3 carries result in roughly 200 yards again this year to get back to that yardage total is a bit naive.

Meanwhile the glancing over the yardage UNI was able to put up with what their offense look liked last year.

Last season UNI had 313 yards rushing, 181 yards passing for 494 total yards and scored 48 points....UNI threw just 8 passes in the second half.

In the other games of the season UNI averaged 227 yards rushing, 146 yards passing and 28 points.

Sure, if Isom breaks off runs of 61 and 72 yard runs on back to back offensive plays again this year, we might see an SIU win. Absolutely. Won't deny that.

It is, however, worth noting that Isom's other runs (according to the box score were 2, 4, 0, 4, 2, -2 (fumble), 4, 2, 4, 1, 3, 0. Seems more telling of what kind of game it was more than the 2 plays he did make.

[eiu1999]

So how many of these teams make the playoffs?

NDSU
SDSU
WIU
UNI

[clenz]

So how many of these teams make the playoffs?

NDSU
SDSU
WIU
UNI
As of today? 2.....maybe....maybe 3

[Thumper 76]

So how many of these teams make the playoffs?

NDSU
SDSU
WIU
UNI

Depending in SDSU could be all four.

[ysubigred]

UNI getting homer calls.....oh good lord, he's lost it.

Only in Y-Town

http://www.comicbookdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Things-That-Make-You-Go-Hmmm-Arsenio-Hall.jpg :D

[clenz]

Only in Y-Town

http://www.comicbookdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Things-That-Make-You-Go-Hmmm-Arsenio-Hall.jpg :D

Somewhere there is still 1 second left on the clock in Youngstown...after a bogus OPI wiped out a game winning TD...

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23621&stc=1

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

So how many of these teams make the playoffs?

NDSU
SDSU
WIU
UNI


Right now all except SDSU.

[Thumper 76]

I love conference season. We can all hate each other again xlolx

[UNIFanSince1983]

I love conference season. We can all hate each other again xlolx

I've hated you a-holes this whole time ;)

[Sycamore62]

I love conference season. We can all hate each other again xlolx

hate seems too soft

[ysubigred]

Somewhere there is still 1 second left on the clock in Youngstown...after a bogus OPI wiped out a game winning TD...

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=23621&stc=1

That clock is not official! :D I was talking about the phantom roughing the kicker call that gave your guy's the second chance field goal try xbawlingx for the win in Y-Town.

[ysubigred]

hate seems too soft

You all suck!!!!! :Dxpeacex

[REALBird]

hate seems too soft

Couldn't have said it better. LOL

[clenz]

That clock is not official! :D I was talking about the phantom roughing the kicker call that gave your guy's the second chance field goal try xbawlingx for the win in Y-Town.
Erm...that's the official clock in the stadium.

That's also after 3 bounces and 3 other seconds that had run off the clock. That clock also ran to zero after another bounce of the ball.

[Bison56]

Finally we can end this fake love fest.

[Thumper 76]

Finally we can end this fake love fest.

https://m.popkey.co/39a570/DyD0M.gif

[dewey]

So how many of these teams make the playoffs?

NDSU
SDSU
WIU
UNI

I would also add Youngstown State to the mix.

I predict the following MVFC playoff teams.
NDSU-auto
UNI
WIU
YSU
SDSU (maybe)

Dewey

[Mayville Bison]

I love conference season. We can talk about Casey's pizza again

Fixed it for ya

[Bison56]

Fixed it for ya

You had to go there xholyx need a Casey's breakfast pizza asap.
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Mila Kunis Says Her Favorite Gas Station Snack Is Casey’s Breakfast Pizzaxcoolx

[Mayville Bison]

You had to go there xholyx need a Casey's breakfast pizza asap.
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Mila Kunis Says Her Favorite Gas Station Snack Is Casey’s Breakfast Pizzaxcoolx

Can't wait until Mayville's Caseys is built!


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[clenz]

You had to go there xholyx need a Casey's breakfast pizza asap.
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Mila Kunis Says Her Favorite Gas Station Snack Is Casey’s Breakfast Pizzaxcoolx
I've had so much Casey's breakfast pizza the last two weeks....it's awesome.


I'd turn lesbian for her.

[Thumper 76]

I've had so much Casey's breakfast pizza the last two weeks....it's awesome.


I'd turn lesbian for her.

The plot thickens...

[IBleedYellow]

You guys. Having Clenz and Thumper in a group text is amazing. They've resorted to renaming the Fargodome. Some awesome names so far.

[ysubigred]

Erm...that's the official clock in the stadium.

That's also after 3 bounces and 3 other seconds that had run off the clock. That clock also ran to zero after another bounce of the ball.

So what's the problem? Still did not defend the roughing the kicker a few years back :D

[ysubigred]

I would also add Youngstown State to the mix.

I predict the following MVFC playoff teams.
NDSU-auto
UNI
WIU
YSU
SDSU (maybe)

Dewey

Playoff's in October now GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[clenz]

The plot thickens...
Does it?

I can tell you one thing that has thickened, but it's not the plot

[BisonTru]

You guys. Having Clenz and Thumper in a group text is amazing. They've resorted to renaming the Fargodome. Some awesome names so far.

Pretty hard to improve upon Dykehouse.

Let me guess, West Acres East... am I close.

[Thumper 76]

You guys. Having Clenz and Thumper in a group text is amazing. They've resorted to renaming the Fargodome. Some awesome names so far.

FBFBB FTW

[PantherRob82]

You guys. Having Clenz and Thumper in a group text is amazing. They've resorted to renaming the Fargodome. Some awesome names so far.

Sears
JC Penney
Macy's
Dillard's
Menard's


Not that hard. :D

[Twentysix]

Sears
JC Penney
Macy's
Dillard's
Menard's


Not that hard. :D

You missed out by not having Zellers. You morph it into a double pun that way.

[dewey]

Playoff's in October now GREAT!!!!!!!!!!! :D

God it is weird seeing a post from you without some scantily clad young lady.

Dewey

[dewey]

Here is an article about NDSU senior swiss army knife Chase Morlock becoming the teams fullback after Brock Robbins broke his foot and is out 6 weeks.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/4125905-morlocks-versatility-be-tested-bison-starting-fullback

Also Bison redshirt freshman Marquise Bridges switches positions from WR to CB.

Dewey

[ST_Lawson]

Non-conference season:
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/52249809.jpg

MVFC Conference season:
http://img.memecdn.com/you-go-to-hell_o_2035393.jpg

[dewey]

Here is a small article from the Fargo Forum about 5 little know facts about the Illinois State Redbirds.
http://www.inforum.com/sports/4124222-bison-game-day-five-things-know-about-illinois-state

Here is a video from the Bison Media Blog about the previewing the Illinois State Redbirds.
https://www.bisonmediazone.com/video-blog-ndsu-vs-illinois-state-preview/

Here is an interview with ISU head coach Brock Spack with Bison 1660 am.
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/head-coach-for-the-redbirds-brock-spack-sept-29-2016

Dewey

[ST_Lawson]

This week's MVFC game preview on the FCS Wedge website: http://thefcswedge.com/mvfc/mvfc-week-5-preview/

[Yotes21]

Anyone have the website where you can put in different teams and it will predict the score outcome. I can't seem to find it.

Thanks

[clenz]

Compughterratings is one. Draw back is you're limited to three total predictions.

The other is nationalsportsrankings.com. Not sure how close the rankings for NSR is compared to Pugh but you can do a ton more with the predictions.

[ST_Lawson]

Compughterratings is one. Draw back is you're limited to three total predictions.

The other is nationalsportsrankings.com. Not sure how close the rankings for NSR is compared to Pugh but you can do a ton more with the predictions.

Here's direct links to the matchup predictors:
http://www.compughterratings.com/CFB/simulations
http://nationalsportsrankings.com/index.php?option=com_oneonone

The stats are a bit more detailed on the first one, so that's good if you're just doing one game prediction (like clenz said). The second one, I like doing a 100 game simulation of the series...I think it gives you better "average" outcome. I ran tomorrow's WIU @ SDSU game through both of them (as well as looking at what Massey was predicting) and they all came back with a 2 to 4 point advantage to SDSU. In the first one, both teams got over 30 points, which I think is likely given the disparities between each teams offenses and their defenses. In the second one, the margin was a little wider, but both teams were in the 20s...I honestly don't see that happening. And Massey's got it at 30-28...so, kinda in between.

For comparison, 5Dimes has it as a 5.5 point advantage to SDSU, with the total points at 59.5. So they're saying 32.5ish to 27. We'll end up seeing which one is closer to being right, but they're all roughly the same in terms of the spread, at least for this game. Maybe I'll keep track of them all through the conference season and see at the end which one was closer to being correct.

[ST_Lawson]

Tangentially related to MVFC play...Iowa State is up by a TD over FBS #13 Baylor at halftime. If they pull off the win, it makes UNI's win over them look better.

Also, Iowa is up on Northwestern by 4 points after 3 quarters. Which win is better...ISUr over Northwestern, or NDSU over Iowa. I still think Iowa is the much bigger win, but it's interesting seeing them struggle against a really bad Northwestern team.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Tangentially related to MVFC play...Iowa State is up by a TD over FBS #13 Baylor at halftime. If they pull off the win, it makes UNI's win over them look better.

Also, Iowa is up on Northwestern by 4 points after 3 quarters. Which win is better...ISUr over Northwestern, or NDSU over Iowa. I still think Iowa is the much bigger win, but it's interesting seeing them struggle against a really bad Northwestern team.

Iowa really struggled last week with Rutgers too who lost by 58 to Ohio State today. Looking like Iowa is pretty bad this year and was really overrated. Unfortunately probably means NDSU will continue to get fewer and fewer votes in the AP poll. And Iowa State pulled a classic Iowa State and blew a game they should have won.

[Twentysix]

Ooof there is no one at SDSU vs WIU on the broadcast. The side they showed was maybe 60% full.

[Hammersmith]

You had to go there xholyx need a Casey's breakfast pizza asap.
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Mila Kunis Says Her Favorite Gas Station Snack Is Casey’s Breakfast Pizzaxcoolx

So happy our Casey's opened about three weeks ago. Averaging three pizzas a week so far. Newness is wearing off, so I'll drop to the more typical 1.5 per week pretty soon.

[CappinHard]

Ooof there is no one at SDSU vs WIU on the broadcast. The side they showed was maybe 60% full.

Not sure when they showed it, but this is at halftime.


http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac299/benpierson/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsagjfjojj.jpeg

[IndyTreeFan]

I'm not buying Indiana State yet. I couldn't tell you if we're better than expected or if Illinois State is (much) worse than expected. We'll know more in a few weeks...

Told 'ya so...

[Twentysix]

Not sure when they showed it, but this is at halftime.


http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac299/benpierson/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsagjfjojj.jpeg

They showed it after the 2nd TD of the game. That still looks like 60% full to me. there are entire sections empty.

[Twentysix]

I hope you guys can get your attendance up to closer to 100% when you have a top 10 opponent in the future.

SDSU growing could be beneficial to NDSU in the future ;).

[Twentysix]

The video quality sure is good though. I could see a moth flying around on the field in the last shot lol.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Might be a dumb question, but is the Vinatieri related to the other one that kicked at SDSU?

[Schism55]

Might be a dumb question, but is the Vinatieri related to the other one that kicked at SDSU?
Yes, it's his nephew.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Kudos to Missouri State....xthumbsupx

1st Valley road win since 2013.

[Sycamore62]

Anything can happen in the Gateway......thats what we used to say when I was playing.

[CappinHard]

I hope you guys can get your attendance up to closer to 100% when you have a top 10 opponent in the future.

SDSU growing could be beneficial to NDSU in the future ;).

Idk, I've heard a lot of this type of talk, and they built this stadium for the future. If it was 100% full the first year, wouldn't people be saying "why didn't they build it bigger?". I think over time as long as we have continued success and make a deep run or two in the playoffs it will fill up. It would have been easy to build a 15 or 16k capacity stadium and have it full. Would that make people feel better?

[UNIFanSince1983]

So I think it looks like the MVFC is NDSU and then a cluster for 2-10.

[Twentysix]

Idk, I've heard a lot of this type of talk, and they built this stadium for the future. If it was 100% full the first year, wouldn't people be saying "why didn't they build it bigger?". I think over time as long as we have continued success and make a deep run or two in the playoffs it will fill up. It would have been easy to build a 15 or 16k capacity stadium and have it full. Would that make people feel better?

That's a good point. I guess I expect a new stadium to lose its luster and that will hurt the drawing capabilities as well, but you probably have about 5 years until it loses its new stadium shine. I guess I expected a new stadium and a top 10 team vs a top 20 team at night to draw a few more people out of Sioux Falls.

I would be pissed if NDSU built a 50,000 seat stadium and then drew 30k. (I realize SDSU's ratio is better than that)

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

So I think it looks like the MVFC is NDSU and then a cluster for 2-10.


Sandbagger......UNI will be right there. It will be very difficult for the Bison to win in CF.

[BigGoosie13]

SDSU wins 52-14, scoring the last 45 points of the game. Dallas Goedert is the best TE in the FCS, no doubt in my mind.

[Twentysix]

SDSU wins 52-14, scoring the last 45 points of the game. Dallas Goedert is the best TE in the FCS, no doubt in my mind.

Yeah it sure looks that way.

[Jacks02]

SDSU wins 52-14, scoring the last 45 points of the game. Dallas Goedert is the best TE in the FCS, no doubt in my mind.

He might be the best TE in college football. I haven't seen many players his size with such a combination of speed, agility and hands.

[Twentysix]

He might be the best TE in college football. I haven't seen many players his size with such a combination of speed, agility and hands.

How is his run blocking?

[BigGoosie13]

How is his run blocking?
Real good, that's how he got on the field in right away in his career.

[Twentysix]

Real good, that's how he got on the field in right away in his career.

Damn. That kid is going to make millions playing football.

[Thumper 76]

Ooof there is no one at SDSU vs WIU on the broadcast. The side they showed was maybe 60% full.

The part they showed was likely the visitors section.


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[Twentysix]

The part they showed was likely the visitors section.


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Yes I think it was.

[Thumper 76]

That's a good point. I guess I expect a new stadium to lose its luster and that will hurt the drawing capabilities as well, but you probably have about 5 years until it loses its new stadium shine. I guess I expected a new stadium and a top 10 team vs a top 20 team at night to draw a few more people out of Sioux Falls.

I would be pissed if NDSU built a 50,000 seat stadium and then drew 30k. (I realize SDSU's ratio is better than that)

Don't forget that our old "poor attendance" games early in the season were 8-9,000. Now it's about 13-15,000. Have to remember where SDSU has risen up from. When we won the Great West in 07 was the first conference title since the 60's, and we had only made the playoffs once ever before we went to FCS. We didn't come into FCS with near the fanbase of NDSU. The amount of catchup we are playing to get to NDSU level is huge, so we've really covered a ton of ground in a short time in my opinion.

[BigGoosie13]

Damn. That kid is going to make millions playing football.

Only 1.75 more years of the Wieneke - Goedert duo, I very much hope I can continue to enjoy the fruit of their labors.

[Thumper 76]

Only 1.75 more years of the Wieneke - Goedert duo, I very much hope I can continue to enjoy the fruit of their labors.

This maybe is overboard, but I really feel like Goedert is the FCS Gronk.


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[Drblankstare]

Sandbagger......UNI will be right there. It will be very difficult for the Bison to win in CF.

NDSU will lose 2 conference games, CF for sure and then a surprise. This is just how the Valley goes. It must be a cluster**** at all times

[CappinHard]

So I think it looks like the MVFC is NDSU and then a cluster for 2-10.

Imo you can break it down into 3 groups.

1. NDSU

2-5, likely all make the playoffs (No particular order)
UNI
SDSU
YSU
WIU

6-10, likely all miss the playoffs (No particular order)
ISUr
ISUb
USD
MSU
SIU

[Twentysix]

Imo you can break it down into 3 groups.

1. NDSU

2-5, likely all make the playoffs (No particular order)
UNI
SDSU
YSU
WIU

6-10, likely all miss the playoffs (No particular order)
ISUr
ISUb
USD
MSU
SIU

This seems right.

I guess the biggest change is that there is no longer a fourth teir that consists of one team.

[BisonBacker]

Don't forget that our old "poor attendance" games early in the season were 8-9,000. Now it's about 13-15,000. Have to remember where SDSU has risen up from. When we won the Great West in 07 was the first conference title since the 60's, and we had only made the playoffs once ever before we went to FCS. We didn't come into FCS with near the fanbase of NDSU. The amount of catchup we are playing to get to NDSU level is huge, so we've really covered a ton of ground in a short time in my opinion.

Hate to break this to ya sparky but you ain't at the NDSU level or even close. The only reason it looks close is the dome is capped at the seating level of 19k. We have over 5k more that would be season ticket holders if we had the seating capacity. Looks can be deceiving. That's not to mention team makers and the financial contributions they make. You have a long way to go before you are in the conversation about being at NDSU levels.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Hate to break this to ya sparky but you ain't at the NDSU level or even close. The only reason it looks close is the dome is capped at the seating level of 19k. We have over 5k more that would be season ticket holders if we had the seating capacity. Looks can be deceiving. That's not to mention team makers and the financial contributions they make. You have a long way to go before you are in the conversation about being at NDSU levels.


Agree

Pat Simmers has said numerous times that NDSU could fill a 30K seat stadium if they had it. The season ticket request is huge I guess. If all could get filled, NDSU would have more season ticket holders than all the Valley teams have for attendance....xlolx

Worthless Jon Lindgren (former mayor) downsized the dome from its original 27K....xmadx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NDSU will lose 2 conference games, CF for sure and then a surprise. This is just how the Valley goes. It must be a cluster**** at all times


Maybe but the team keeps improving. DBs need to work on technique and communication for sure.

UNI, SDSU, WIU and YSU will be tough games out of the remaining IMO.

It will take a very good effort by another team to beat the Bison IMO.

[POD Knows]

He might be the best TE in college football. I haven't seen many players his size with such a combination of speed, agility and hands.

Hugely impressed with Goedert and the SDSU offense as a whole, wow. This Goedert kid was a walk on and hadn't played tight end before coming to SDSU?

[POD Knows]

Hate to break this to ya sparky but you ain't at the NDSU level or even close. The only reason it looks close is the dome is capped at the seating level of 19k. We have over 5k more that would be season ticket holders if we had the seating capacity. Looks can be deceiving. That's not to mention team makers and the financial contributions they make. You have a long way to go before you are in the conversation about being at NDSU levels.

Yea, if we could attendance up to 25,000, then we could have 12,500 people leave at halftime. xmadx

[POD Knows]

Maybe but the team keeps improving. DBs need to work on technique and communication for sure.

UNI, SDSU, WIU and YSU will be tough games out of the remaining IMO.

It will take a very good effort by another team to beat the Bison IMO.

The upcoming SDSU/NDSU game is hugely concerning given how big and how good the SDSU receivers are and how mobile their QB is. This could be another EWU type game. ISUR had almost 200 yards passing in the first half yesterday, NDSU looked lost in the secondary and ISUR is not a good football team.

[BigGoosie13]

SDSU-WIU highlights, Landberg's catch was #6 on Sportscenter Top Ten...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvNld_kaGls

[MR. CHICKEN]

This seems right.

I guess the biggest change is that there is no longer a fourth teir that consists of one team.


.....SIX THRU TEN.....TOOK CARE UH DAT.............BYE-BYE BROCK!

[Professor Chaos]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Valley only gets 3 playoff teams this year after cannibalizing each other over the course of the conference schedule. Not even MSU is a cupcake anymore. NDSU looks like almost a lock already and WIU still looks to be in very good shape also. USD and IlSU already seem out of it (each can only lose one more game to have any shot) and the other 6 teams all have to go 5-2 or better to be assured of a spot.

Obviously there's a lot of season left but I get the feeling there's gonna be a bunch of 6-5/5-6 teams in the middle of the standings and probably 2-3 teams above that along with 1-2 teams below that.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

The upcoming SDSU/NDSU game is hugely concerning given how big and how good the SDSU receivers are and how mobile their QB is. This could be another EWU type game. ISUR had almost 200 yards passing in the first half yesterday, NDSU looked lost in the secondary and ISUR is not a good football team.



Bring on SDSU.

After the adjustments made at halftime, the only significant yardage the Redbirds had was when NDSU was playing prevent in the 4th.

The secondary has some issues but they are young and will get better.....I hope.

[MR. CHICKEN]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Valley only gets 3 playoff teams this year after cannibalizing each other over the course of the conference schedule. Not even MSU is a cupcake anymore. NDSU looks like almost a lock already and WIU still looks to be in very good shape also. USD and IlSU already seem out of it (each can only lose one more game to have any shot) and the other 6 teams all have to go 5-2 or better to be assured of a spot.

Obviously there's a lot of season left but I get the feeling there's gonna be a bunch of 6-5/5-6 teams in the middle of the standings and probably 2-3 teams above that along with 1-2 teams below that.

......DON'T FO'GET.....DUH OUTTAH CONFERENCE ONES.....TOO..........BYE-BYE BROCK!

[Professor Chaos]

......DON'T FO'GET.....DUH OUTTAH CONFERENCE ONES.....TOO..........BYE-BYE BROCK!
Oh yeah, I said it the week that the Big Sky swept their 3 games against the MVFC... we can kiss 5 playoff bids goodbye but it's looking more like even 4 might require some help from bubble teams elsewhere.

[POD Knows]

Bring on SDSU.

After the adjustments made at halftime, the only significant yardage the Redbirds had was when NDSU was playing prevent in the 4th.

The secondary has some issues but they are young and will get better.....I hope.

SDSU is not ISUR, last year SDSU was pretty much a one trick pony at WR, this year they have multiple good receivers and also good running backs and are better at QB. If NDSU doesn't get that fumble deep in our own territory in the first half, our game could have been a lot different. We have a young secondary and they will get better but we have SDSU in 2 weeks, pretty short window.

[Professor Chaos]

SDSU is not ISUR, last year SDSU was pretty much a one trick pony at WR, this year they have multiple good receivers and also good running backs and are better at QB. If NDSU doesn't get that fumble deep in our own territory in the first half, our game could have been a lot different. We have a young secondary and they will get better but we have SDSU in 2 weeks, pretty short window.
As bad as NDSU's defense has been against the pass SDSU's defense has been worse against the run. Despite only giving up 14 points to WIU they gave up 183 yards on the ground at a 6.3 ypc clip. Neither team's defense matches up real well with the opposing team's offense. Probably means another Big Sky like final score.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

SDSU is not ISUR, last year SDSU was pretty much a one trick pony at WR, this year they have multiple good receivers and also good running backs and are better at QB. If NDSU doesn't get that fumble deep in our own territory in the first half, our game could have been a lot different. We have a young secondary and they will get better but we have SDSU in 2 weeks, pretty short window.


Gee....is SDSU the Patriots?

xeyebrowx

NDSU should be able to run the ball on the Jacks. The game is at home. The DL has been playing really well.

SDSU is no pushover but I'm not going to write off the Bison defense because of a few mistakes in the secondary.

[CappinHard]

Hate to break this to ya sparky but you ain't at the NDSU level or even close. The only reason it looks close is the dome is capped at the seating level of 19k. We have over 5k more that would be season ticket holders if we had the seating capacity. Looks can be deceiving. That's not to mention team makers and the financial contributions they make. You have a long way to go before you are in the conversation about being at NDSU levels.

Hate to break it to ya sparky, but he didn't say that we're at the NDSU level or even close. He said we're playing catchup and that we've gained a lot of ground in a short time. Don't worry, no one is insinuating that they're anywhere close the almighty bizun.

[PantherRob82]

Don't forget that our old "poor attendance" games early in the season were 8-9,000. Now it's about 13-15,000. Have to remember where SDSU has risen up from. When we won the Great West in 07 was the first conference title since the 60's, and we had only made the playoffs once ever before we went to FCS. We didn't come into FCS with near the fanbase of NDSU. The amount of catchup we are playing to get to NDSU level is huge, so we've really covered a ton of ground in a short time in my opinion.


SDSU-WIU highlights, Landberg's catch was #6 on Sportscenter Top Ten...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvNld_kaGls

Well done video, but they need to get a camera in the box. Hard to see a lot of these plays from ground level.

[clenz]

Not to be completely outdone, freshman Jaylen James submits hits catch.

About 56 seconds in

https://youtu.be/zEj2HMGK2vE

Still shot from mid catch from a UNI photographer that does amazing work - @photopanther on Twitter

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161002/18c5b3a4207b5a2728c92c5b8f21f862.jpg

[UNIFanSince1983]

Hate to break this to ya sparky but you ain't at the NDSU level or even close. The only reason it looks close is the dome is capped at the seating level of 19k. We have over 5k more that would be season ticket holders if we had the seating capacity. Looks can be deceiving. That's not to mention team makers and the financial contributions they make. You have a long way to go before you are in the conversation about being at NDSU levels.

What happens if the Bizon fall back to earth a little bit? I mean winning a national championship every year isn't going to happen. What if they have an average year at like 7-4. Do you really think the demand will stay high? Things in college football change quickly.

[Thumper 76]

Hate to break this to ya sparky but you ain't at the NDSU level or even close. The only reason it looks close is the dome is capped at the seating level of 19k. We have over 5k more that would be season ticket holders if we had the seating capacity. Looks can be deceiving. That's not to mention team makers and the financial contributions they make. You have a long way to go before you are in the conversation about being at NDSU levels.

JFC, blow it out your ass. I say the amount of catch up we are playing is huge and it still hurts your tender feelings? Go take a long walk off a short pier ya insecure twit. Sorry apparently my post wasn't jerking off the bison enough for you.


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[UNIFanSince1983]

Not to be completely outdone, freshman Jaylen James submits hits catch.

About 56 seconds in

https://youtu.be/zEj2HMGK2vE

That TD catch by Fountain right before it in the highlights was not too shabby itself.

[Bison56]

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What happens if the Bizon fall back to earth a little bit? I mean winning a national championship every year isn't going to happen. What if they have an average year at like 7-4. Do you really think the demand will stay high? Things in college football change quickly.

[Bison56]

JFC, blow it out your ass. I say the amount of catch up we are playing is huge and it still hurts your tender feelings? Go take a long walk off a short pier ya insecure twit. Sorry apparently my post wasn't jerking off the bison enough for you.


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Never can get enough.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What happens if the Bizon fall back to earth a little bit? I mean winning a national championship every year isn't going to happen. What if they have an average year at like 7-4. Do you really think the demand will stay high? Things in college football change quickly.


Demand might lag some for sure but there will still be a demand for season tickets. There is a long list right now.

[BisonFan02]

Demand might lag some for sure but there will still be a demand for season tickets. There is a long list right now.

I would consider myself fairly "level headed" on this subject......a few points.

1) in the past ten years (06-16), winning aside, the "Fargo Moorhead metro" has grown substantially....to the point that filling a 19k stadium with no other real competition isn't a tall task. NDSU will tend to show near capacity at each game with scanned tickets and unused visitor allocation. All tickets are spoken for with season tickets and individual tickets selling out well before the season starts.....usually at a pace the servers can handle.

2) That being said.....there will be a turnover of fans from winning bandwagon to the "hardcore" crowd. Losing would change the makeup of the crowd. I've had season tickets for awhile now and it is noticable....especially from about 2013 onward. I would call 2012 the peak when it comes to noise/rabid. NDSU Football has become an event for people not previously interested....and many have deep pockets.

I don't see a reversal to pre-2010 coming anytime soon. Losing may open it back up to me expanding my season ticket base.....but probably not. The facility is too small for that to really happen.

[POD Knows]

Gee....is SDSU the Patriots?

xeyebrowx

NDSU should be able to run the ball on the Jacks. The game is at home. The DL has been playing really well.

SDSU is no pushover but I'm not going to write off the Bison defense because of a few mistakes in the secondary.

I don't like 45 to 40 point games. I get that their D might not be that good but they are the best offensive team I have seen and that might include EWU.

[Schism55]

Bison D line proved waaaaay too much for jack attacks O line last year. Much the same this year.

[CappinHard]

Bison D line proved waaaaay too much for jack attacks O line last year. Much the same this year.

Our run blocking needs to improve, but our pass blocking has been very good. We got a new offensive line coach this year, Jason Eck from Mankato State. Could take a while for them to get used to his way of doing things. Point being, it's different from last year.

[MSUDuo]

Thoughts on MSU?

I ain't going to come in here and say we're going to make the playoffs and I hate comparing scores....but with that said...

Is it far fetched to think we can play spoiler? Say, against SIU at home, ISUred on the road, and WIU at home?

What are your guys' thoughts on MSU?

[clenz]

All of those games are losses.

Every one has underestimated how poor isub would be this year

[Professor Chaos]

Thoughts on MSU?

I ain't going to come in here and say we're going to make the playoffs and I hate comparing scores....but with that said...

Is it far fetched to think we can play spoiler? Say, against SIU at home, ISUred on the road, and WIU at home?

What are your guys' thoughts on MSU?


All of those games are losses.

Every one has underestimated how poor isub would be this year
I expected ISUb to be bad but I expected MSU to be reaaaaalllly bad. As in "not coming within 20 points of another MVFC team" bad. They've already got a 21 point MVFC road win. I'd say SIU at home is very winnable but the other 6 they have left are probably losses. I think they can pull one upset in there and 5-6 would be a big step forward for them given how bad they were last year.

[clenz]

I expected ISUb to be bad but I expected MSU to be reaaaaalllly bad. As in "not coming within 20 points of another MVFC team" bad. They've already got a 21 point MVFC road win. I'd say SIU at home is very winnable but the other 6 they have left are probably losses. I think they can pull one upset in there and 5-6 would be a big step forward for them given how bad they were last year.

SIU has a bad defense. It their offense is still good enough to crush teams like MSI and ISUb.

[Sycamore62]

I suspect MSU will win 1-2 more games and ISUb wont make playoffs but will crap on someone elses playoff hopes.

[ST_Lawson]

Thoughts on MSU?

I ain't going to come in here and say we're going to make the playoffs and I hate comparing scores....but with that said...

Is it far fetched to think we can play spoiler? Say, against SIU at home, ISUred on the road, and WIU at home?

What are your guys' thoughts on MSU?

My thoughts....getting better, definitely. I think this season, despite yesterday's result, WIU is still a step ahead of SIU and ISUr. You guys stand a good shot of taking down SIU, and if a few more losses take the crowd out of the ISU game, then that one's probably a toss-up. I don't think you'll beat us, but it could be a lot closer than I thought it would be at the start of the season.

[PantherRob82]

All of those games are losses.

Every one has underestimated how poor isub would be this year

But they beat ISUr. Why can't MoSt?

[BisonTru]

Thoughts on MSU?

I ain't going to come in here and say we're going to make the playoffs and I hate comparing scores....but with that said...

Is it far fetched to think we can play spoiler? Say, against SIU at home, ISUred on the road, and WIU at home?

What are your guys' thoughts on MSU?

You should be favored against SIU at home.

[underdawg]

But they beat ISUr. Why can't MoSt?

I watched the MSU game--much better than I thought--no one could cover their big WR and the QB has an arm.

[BisonFan02]

I watched the MSU game--much better than I thought--no one could cover their big WR and the QB has an arm.

http://i.imgur.com/89HANHg.gif

[IndyTreeFan]

Every one has underestimated how poor isub would be this year

Not me... :-)

[MSUDuo]

But they beat ISUr. Why can't MoSt?

Because Clenzy hates MO State.

[BisonFan02]

Because Clenzy hates MO State.

Consider it a badge of honor. xlolx

[PantherRob82]

Because Clenzy hates MO State.

Well we all hate Missouri State, but now that they won one game, I don't see why they couldn't snag a few.

[underdawg]

http://i.imgur.com/89HANHg.gif


No that ISU blue had--what surprises you?

[clenz]

Because Clenzy hates MO State.

Crawl back in your hole.

If you don't have to balls to be here when your team doesn't win, don't show up when they so

[MSUDuo]

Consider it a badge of honor. xlolx

I wouldn't consider it anything less than that. xrolleyesx

[Sycamore62]

I guess we were missing a lot of starters. Some linemen and db's. I'm not sure who. Our only answer for stopping the pass in the first half was to hope it was a bad throw to an open receiver.

[Jacks02]

Hugely impressed with Goedert and the SDSU offense as a whole, wow. This Goedert kid was a walk on and hadn't played tight end before coming to SDSU?

Here is a profile article with Goedert's story.

Dallas Goedert A Rising Star For SDSU (http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/south-dakota-state-university/2016/09/15/dallas-goedert-rising-star-sdsu/90413168/)

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Here is a profile article with Goedert's story.

Dallas Goedert A Rising Star For SDSU (http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/south-dakota-state-university/2016/09/15/dallas-goedert-rising-star-sdsu/90413168/)


Thanks for posting this.

He is a match up nightmare for any team.

[Houndawg]

SIU has a bad defense. It their offense is still good enough to crush teams like MSI and ISUb.

As bad as they are they're already better than last year by a long way and with a couple of decent DTs could move up into the realm of mediocrity. First time we've held a decent team under 400 yards in quite a while and Straughn threw for 300 yds while running for his life all night. 17 penalties and 16 yd punts aren't going to take you very far anywhere let alone at the dome on Homecoming but I think that at the end of the season Hill will have taken the team a step in the right direction. First we have to get our d up to at least Big Sky standards.

[clenz]

As bad as they are they're already better than last year by a long way and with a couple of decent DTs could move up into the realm of mediocrity. First time we've held a decent team under 400 yards in quite a while and Straughn threw for 300 yds while running for his life all night. 17 penalties and 16 yd punts aren't going to take you very far anywhere let alone at the dome on Homecoming but I think that at the end of the season Hill will have taken the team a step in the right direction. First we have to get our d up to at least Big Sky standards.
The "under 400" stat line talk is a bit misleading.

UNI had 398 yards. UNI also ran about 99% dive plays in the second half after being up 21 at half. Bailey was 9-10 passing in the first half and somehow threw less passes in the second half. UNI ran, by my count, 33 run plays in the second half including 12 on the final drive of the game. That drive was 12 plays and ate up the final 6:25 on the clock while ending on the SIU 13 yard line.

I suppose it's better, but holding UNI to 398 yards of offense and 35 isn't exactly a great litmus test considering the other three games of the season they'd averaged 357 yards 21 points per game.


Sure, I guess it's better but I'm not sure how much better

[Professor Chaos]

Uh-oh! MLB.com better be paying royalties to our hip hop friend from Brookings for this clear pirating of phrase: Bats incredible: O's-Jays jack attack tonight (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20161002204731088/bats-incredible-os-jays-jack-attack-tonight/?game_pk=487595&partnerId=ed-10905055-934369013)

[dewey]

Here is an article about the NDSU vs. Missouri State game on Saturday.
http://www.inforum.com/sports/4128336-bison-head-missouri-state-packed-resume-wins-over-ranked-opponents

Here is an article from the Springfield News-Leader about Missouri State trying to pack Plaster Stadium for the game against NDSU with a buy one get one free ticket deal. Normally reserved bleacher seats are $10 and this weekend they will be $10 for two seats.
http://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/college/msu/2016/10/03/missouri-state-hoping-bogo-offer-helps-pack-plaster/91496610/

Here is about Missouri State head coach Dave Steckel keeping his mojo going and other notes.
http://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/2016/10/02/day-after-stec-keeps-his-mojo-going/91437606/

Here is an interview from Bison 1660 am with MSU HC.
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/missouri-state-head-coach-dave-steckel-on-the-brakedown-tuesday-october-4th

Here is an video interview with MSU Captain Riley Shantz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsobK4lfMs

Here is an video interview with MSU head coach Dave Steckel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgtxijsF2E

Here is an interview with Art Hains for Missouri State and Tyler Merriam for SDSU.
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/missouri-valley-mix-oct-4-2016

Dewey

[underdawg]

Here is an article about the NDSU vs. Missouri State game on Saturday.
http://www.inforum.com/sports/4128336-bison-head-missouri-state-packed-resume-wins-over-ranked-opponents

Here is an article from the Springfield News-Leader about Missouri State trying to pack Plaster Stadium for the game against NDSU with a buy one get one free ticket deal. Normally reserved bleacher seats are $10 and this weekend they will be $10 for two seats.
http://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/college/msu/2016/10/03/missouri-state-hoping-bogo-offer-helps-pack-plaster/91496610/

Here is about Missouri State head coach Dave Steckel keeping his mojo going and other notes.
http://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/2016/10/02/day-after-stec-keeps-his-mojo-going/91437606/

Here is an interview from Bison 1660 am with MSU HC.
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/missouri-state-head-coach-dave-steckel-on-the-brakedown-tuesday-october-4th

Here is an video interview with MSU Captain Riley Shantz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsobK4lfMs

Here is an video interview with MSU head coach Dave Steckel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgtxijsF2E

Here is an interview with Art Hains for Missouri State and Tyler Merriam for SDSU.
https://soundcloud.com/user-744211984/missouri-valley-mix-oct-4-2016

Dewey

Wow! Super Bowl-like Coverage for a supposed blowout? Seriously, I'm kind of looking forward to this game to gage how much da Bears have stepped up this year. I'd say a bunch--but probably not enough to top the Bison--at least that's conventional wisdom

[CappinHard]

Uh-oh! MLB.com better be paying royalties to our hip hop friend from Brookings for this clear pirating of phrase: Bats incredible: O's-Jays jack attack tonight (http://m.mlb.com/news/article/20161002204731088/bats-incredible-os-jays-jack-attack-tonight/?game_pk=487595&partnerId=ed-10905055-934369013)

Hilarious watching this after the fact with him mentioning that Jiminez would be a good option but ultimately you have to get the ball to Britton. (For those that didn't watch the game, in the 12th inning the Orioles went with Jiminez instead of Britton only to watch him give up 3 hits on 5 pitches and lose the game on a walk off HR)

[dewey]

Wow! Super Bowl-like Coverage for a supposed blowout? Seriously, I'm kind of looking forward to this game to gage how much da Bears have stepped up this year. I'd say a bunch--but probably not enough to top the Bison--at least that's conventional wisdom

It is amazing to me how well the Bison Media Blog, Fargo Forum and Bison 1660 am cover NDSU athletics. Especially football.

Great times.

Like you said it will be interesting to see how MSU does. They were really young last year with a new coach. I just hope for a comfortable win.

My guess is
NDSU 38
MSU 14

Dewey

[Professor Chaos]

It is amazing to me how well the Bison Media Blog, Fargo Forum and Bison 1660 am cover NDSU athletics. Especially football.

Great times.

Like you said it will be interesting to see how MSU does. They were really young last year with a new coach. I just hope for a comfortable win.

My guess is
NDSU 38
MSU 14

Dewey
NDSU on Scout (bisonreport.com (http://bisonreport.com)) puts out some really good content as well. Some of it is paid (although only $5 a month) but some of it is free as well.

[MSUDuo]

Here is an article from the Springfield News-Leader about Missouri State trying to pack Plaster Stadium for the game against NDSU with a buy one get one free ticket deal. Normally reserved bleacher seats are $10 and this weekend they will be $10 for two seats.
http://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/college/msu/2016/10/03/missouri-state-hoping-bogo-offer-helps-pack-plaster/91496610/



Dewey

$5 gets you 2 bleacher tickets.

They are basically giving away the tickets at this point and we wonder why our Athletic Department is $1.5 million in the red over the past few years.

The saddest part is I haven't heard one word from the University about the game other than this BOGO offer and that was on Twitter. Biggest game for us in a long time and they are sitting on their hands.

[Bisonator]

It is amazing to me how well the Bison Media Blog, Fargo Forum and Bison 1660 am cover NDSU athletics. Especially football.

Great times.

Like you said it will be interesting to see how MSU does. They were really young last year with a new coach. I just hope for a comfortable win.

My guess is
NDSU 38
MSU 14

Dewey

There is some really great general FCS content on Bison 1660 as well. Lots of interviews with different teams play by play guys, coaches, etc.

http://www.bison1660.com/

[Schism55]

There is some really great general FCS content on Bison 1660 as well. Lots of interviews with different teams play by play guys, coaches, etc.

http://www.bison1660.com/
This.
I get a lot of use and enjoyment out of their app. Good stuff.

[Twentysix]

$5 gets you 2 bleacher tickets.

They are basically giving away the tickets at this point and we wonder why our Athletic Department is $1.5 million in the red over the past few years.

The saddest part is I haven't heard one word from the University about the game other than this BOGO offer and that was on Twitter. Biggest game for us in a long time and they are sitting on their hands.

For every ticket that wouldn't otherwise be sold they probably sell a popcorn or something. Sometimes you have to just clear inventory. They probably end up clearing more money by doing these crazy deals than they would if they just do nothing.

When you have no following you have to do what you can to get AIS

[ysubigred]

$5 gets you 2 bleacher tickets.

They are basically giving away the tickets at this point and we wonder why our Athletic Department is $1.5 million in the red over the past few years.

The saddest part is I haven't heard one word from the University about the game other than this BOGO offer and that was on Twitter. Biggest game for us in a long time and they are sitting on their hands.

"IF" YSU is still relevant I'll be getting one of your cheap tix's when we come out there xthumbsupx

[dewey]

"IF" YSU is still relevant I'll be getting one of your cheap tix's when we come out there xthumbsupx

Depends. Is the game in October or November :D

Dewey

[underdawg]

For every ticket that wouldn't otherwise be sold they probably sell a popcorn or something. Sometimes you have to just clear inventory. They probably end up clearing more money by doing these crazy deals than they would if they just do nothing.

When you have no following you have to do what you can to get AIS


Also another problem for attendance at these games--at least for us--is students are taking off for a long weekend away from campus since they get Monday (Columbus Day) off--SIU is selling some 10 dollar tickets (usually 17-20 dollars a piece)

[MSUDuo]

Also another problem for attendance at these games--at least for us--is students are taking off for a long weekend away from campus since they get Monday (Columbus Day) off--SIU is selling some 10 dollar tickets (usually 17-20 dollars a piece)

Seriously? SIU gives Columbus Day off?

[UNIFanSince1983]

Also another problem for attendance at these games--at least for us--is students are taking off for a long weekend away from campus since they get Monday (Columbus Day) off--SIU is selling some 10 dollar tickets (usually 17-20 dollars a piece)

You mean Indigenous Peoples' Day right?

[Thumper 76]

You mean Indigenous Peoples' Day right?

Native American day in SD, not sure about ND.


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[Sycamore62]

You mean Indigenous Peoples' Day right?

No he means Southern Illinois

[dewey]

Here is an article from the Fargo Forum about a local kid, Frazee is a small school about an hour east of Fargo, getting his shot at fullback.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/4130830-frazees-malstrom-already-making-strides-division-i-fullback-ndsu

Dewey

[The Yo Show]

Wait, you mean certain state's recongize Columbus Day under a different name? xeyebrowx

Just did some Wikipedia surfing. Man the things you learn at AGS xlolx

[Sycamore62]

Wait, you mean certain state's recongize Columbus Day under a different name? xeyebrowx

Just did some Wikipedia surfing. Man the things you learn at AGS xlolx

I assumed in Ohio they called it Buckeye Day

[underdawg]

Yep all schools--High school, elem too

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Here is an article from the Fargo Forum about a local kid, Frazee is a small school about an hour east of Fargo, getting his shot at fullback.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/4130830-frazees-malstrom-already-making-strides-division-i-fullback-ndsu

Dewey



The kid was an animal in section 8A. Watched him a few times and he a perfect fit at NDSU

[Houndawg]

The "under 400" stat line talk is a bit misleading.

UNI had 398 yards. UNI also ran about 99% dive plays in the second half after being up 21 at half. Bailey was 9-10 passing in the first half and somehow threw less passes in the second half. UNI ran, by my count, 33 run plays in the second half including 12 on the final drive of the game. That drive was 12 plays and ate up the final 6:25 on the clock while ending on the SIU 13 yard line.

I suppose it's better, but holding UNI to 398 yards of offense and 35 isn't exactly a great litmus test considering the other three games of the season they'd averaged 357 yards 21 points per game.


Sure, I guess it's better but I'm not sure how much better

...such a negative Nancyxsmhx...yes, the stat line is misleading in that it doesn't show how far this defense has come compared to last year's debacle - much better athletes this year, including the best MLB in the conference. They were on the field a long time and several short fields.xnodx

[dewey]

Here is an article about the Jensen connection from Waupaca Wisconsin and other NDSU and Missouri State new.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/4130922-waupaca-wis-alive-and-well-bison-football-team

Dewey

[steelbison]

Hugely impressed with Goedert and the SDSU offense as a whole, wow. This Goedert kid was a walk on and hadn't played tight end before coming to SDSU?

Here is the problem with SDSU. Their Defense is terrible!! Couple that with they can't run the ball and the NDSU D-line is going to kill their QB. Go back and watch the game in Brookings last year. It will be similar except their defense is a lot worse than last year.

Will they score some points? Of course. Problem is it won't be close to enough.

[POD Knows]

Here is the problem with SDSU. Their Defense is terrible!! Couple that with they can't run the ball and the NDSU D-line is going to kill their QB. Go back and watch the game in Brookings last year. It will be similar except their defense is a lot worse than last year.

Will they score some points? Of course. Problem is it won't be close to enough.

Yea, I think I heard those arguments before the NDSU/EWU game. I was at the NDSU/SDSU game last year, this SDSU team is far more balanced offensively and significantly better at the QB position but they are worse on D. We could take Weineke out of the games because he was really their only WR threat, it is going to be tougher this year.

They have good running backs but apparently a less than average O-line which will be an issue. We are also missing Deluca and have the worst secondary in recent Bison memory.

I will be real curious to see how we do at MSU this weekend, apparently they sling it around. Teams that throw the ball effectively cause us problems. Teams with mobile QB's cause us problems, it will be interesting to see how we react.

[Professor Chaos]

Yea, I think I heard those arguments before the NDSU/EWU game. I was at the NDSU/SDSU game last year, this SDSU team is far more balanced offensively and significantly better at the QB position but they are worse on D. We could take Weineke out of the games because he was really their only WR threat, it is going to be tougher this year.

They have good running backs but apparently a less than average O-line which will be an issue. We are also missing Deluca and have the worst secondary in recent Bison memory.

I will be real curious to see how we do at MSU this weekend, apparently they sling it around. Teams that throw the ball effectively cause us problems. Teams with mobile QB's cause us problems, it will be interesting to see how we react.
I think the things that caught me most by surprise with EWU is how well their OL played. I, and most everyone else it seems, assumed that because they had 5 new starters and 2 true freshman on the left side that their OL would be garbage. I thought their O-line played just as well as Iowa's did the following week (although the Bison D-line might've just played better against Iowa as well). However, I don't think SDSU has that kind of OL. Christion is slippery back there though, the NDSU D-line needs to be more disciplined than they were against EWU and collapse the pocket around him.

[steelbison]

Yea, I think I heard those arguments before the NDSU/EWU game. I was at the NDSU/SDSU game last year, this SDSU team is far more balanced offensively and significantly better at the QB position but they are worse on D. We could take Weineke out of the games because he was really their only WR threat, it is going to be tougher this year.

They have good running backs but apparently a less than average O-line which will be an issue. We are also missing Deluca and have the worst secondary in recent Bison memory.

I will be real curious to see how we do at MSU this weekend, apparently they sling it around. Teams that throw the ball effectively cause us problems. Teams with mobile QB's cause us problems, it will be interesting to see how we react.

Did you watch the Eastern game? We had the most idiotic Defensive game plan I have ever seen in my 40 plus years of watching bison football. NDSU is an attack style defense. Anytime we try to play prevent defense like we did for that game it gets us in trouble because the players don't know/understand that style of play.

You actually think they would do that to us again in a rematch? I totally get that SDSU will score some points. But understand this. Their QB is going to get hit..often and hard. Their oline sucks. Their defense is TERRIBLE!! they can't stop the run or the pass. When you have the best o-line and d-line in the conference(IMO) that makes a world of difference in a game like this.

Not worried about SDSU at all. UNI will be our toughest game this year. We always struggle down there. ALWAYS!

You are curious as to how we will do against MST. Seriously? will let me give you a clue how the game is going to go. 38-13 type game. Could be worse. Depends if they quit or not like last year. If our o-line destroys them it could get very ugly.

Lastly teams with mobile QB's cause us problems. LOL Teams with mobile QB's cause everyone problems. That said we have beaten plenty of so called athletic QB's over the years. Just look at last years Championship game.


Football games are won in the trenches and again I believe we have the best oline and d-lines in the FCS

[Professor Chaos]

Did you watch the Eastern game? We had the most idiotic Defensive game plan I have ever seen in my 40 plus years of watching bison football.
Nope, Breske's 3-4 scheme in 2009 with a team that did not have very many good or healthy LBs takes that cake.... at least they had good LBs this year.

EDIT: There seems to be a common theme here when the Bison have had a base defense with 3 down lineman....

[Schism55]

Jacks returned soo much from last year, expected them to be better.
Didn't think they would miss Lally so much.

[POD Knows]

Did you watch the Eastern game? We had the most idiotic Defensive game plan I have ever seen in my 40 plus years of watching bison football. NDSU is an attack style defense. Anytime we try to play prevent defense like we did for that game it gets us in trouble because the players don't know/understand that style of play.

You actually think they would do that to us again in a rematch? I totally get that SDSU will score some points. But understand this. Their QB is going to get hit..often and hard. Their oline sucks. Their defense is TERRIBLE!! they can't stop the run or the pass. When you have the best o-line and d-line in the conference(IMO) that makes a world of difference in a game like this.

Not worried about SDSU at all. UNI will be our toughest game this year. We always struggle down there. ALWAYS!

You are curious as to how we will do against MST. Seriously? will let me give you a clue how the game is going to go. 38-13 type game. Could be worse. Depends if they quit or not like last year. If our o-line destroys them it could get very ugly.

Lastly teams with mobile QB's cause us problems. LOL Teams with mobile QB's cause everyone problems. That said we have beaten plenty of so called athletic QB's over the years. Just look at last years Championship game.


Football games are won in the trenches and again I believe we have the best oline and d-lines in the FCS

I don't the game with MSU won't be close, but they appear to be improved and can throw the ball, if we win 38-13 and MSU rolls up 350+ yards of passing, that is a problem.

The defensive game plan against EWU was stupid and yea, I was at the game.

Hope you are right on the SDSU game, I am not one of these guys that likes close games, I like blowouts. I generally never worry about SDSU either but it seems like they are a little bit different animal this year. They have great talent at the skill positions or maybe WIU just sucks but they made them look very bad.

I hope you are right on the SDSU game and then I will gladly take the abuse that I deserve on my somewhat negative view of the game.

I agree on the UNI game, it is their super bowl xcoffeex and they always play us tough.

[Thumper 76]

Did you watch the Eastern game? We had the most idiotic Defensive game plan I have ever seen in my 40 plus years of watching bison football. NDSU is an attack style defense. Anytime we try to play prevent defense like we did for that game it gets us in trouble because the players don't know/understand that style of play.

You actually think they would do that to us again in a rematch? I totally get that SDSU will score some points. But understand this. Their QB is going to get hit..often and hard. Their oline sucks. Their defense is TERRIBLE!! they can't stop the run or the pass. When you have the best o-line and d-line in the conference(IMO) that makes a world of difference in a game like this.

Not worried about SDSU at all. UNI will be our toughest game this year. We always struggle down there. ALWAYS!

You are curious as to how we will do against MST. Seriously? will let me give you a clue how the game is going to go. 38-13 type game. Could be worse. Depends if they quit or not like last year. If our o-line destroys them it could get very ugly.

Lastly teams with mobile QB's cause us problems. LOL Teams with mobile QB's cause everyone problems. That said we have beaten plenty of so called athletic QB's over the years. Just look at last years Championship game.


Football games are won in the trenches and again I believe we have the best oline and d-lines in the FCS
How do you figure our O line sucks? I have never seen a team average 45 points per game with a terrible offensive line. Just wondering where in your statistical analysis you figure that one. TC did isn't even get touched last game. Seriously, show me why the offensive line has been awful. I'll wait.

Also, for SDSU having such a horrid defense, NDSU has only faced one offense that's on the same level as any of our 3 good opponents. EWU. And they put up a boatload of points. SDSU had to play defense against TCU, Cal Poly who leads the country in rushing and is averaging over 30 points per game out of their unique triple option, and Western Illinois who had the nations leading rusher until they played SDSU. Iowa isn't an offensive juggernaut, neither is CSU, and Illinois State lost to EIU, Indiana State, and really flexed their muscles against hapless Northwester to the tune of 9 points. So don't get too giddy about the bison defense just yet. They are likely good, but SDSUs defense is likely much better than they have shown to date. They didn't shut down a fairly high powered WIU offense by mistake.

And I'm not sold on you having the best offensive line yet personally. They had a good game against Iowa. But to swagger around crowing about being the best after what an undersized CSU defense did to them at home is a bit much.

But please keep being the stereotype of a bison fan and reminding me why I hate NDSU.


Jacks returned soo much from last year, expected them to be better.
Didn't think they would miss Lally so much.

I think they weren't playing fast and were thinking against two defenses that they won't see again in TCU and Cal Poly. Watch the tape of Polg and every play is hesitant, compared to WIU where they were flying around the field. That can make all the difference in the world.



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[IBleedYellow]

Hey NDSU fans.

We play Mo State tomorrow...

Just saying.

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[clenz]

Hey NDSU fans.

We play Mo State tomorrow...

Just saying.

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Most NDSU fans DGAF.

[Thumper 76]

I don't the game with MSU won't be close, but they appear to be improved and can throw the ball, if we win 38-13 and MSU rolls up 350+ yards of passing, that is a problem.

The defensive game plan against EWU was stupid and yea, I was at the game.

Hope you are right on the SDSU game, I am not one of these guys that likes close games, I like blowouts. I generally never worry about SDSU either but it seems like they are a little bit different animal this year. They have great talent at the skill positions or maybe WIU just sucks but they made them look very bad.

I hope you are right on the SDSU game and then I will gladly take the abuse that I deserve on my somewhat negative view of the game.

I agree on the UNI game, it is their super bowl xcoffeex and they always play us tough.

You're likely not wrong to be nervous about our offense, and not wrong to not be the slightest bit impressed with our defense right now. There's only one team that's scored more points in regulation against TCU all season, and that's Oklahoma. That's a team with weapons. Last year NDSU was able to shut down Wieneke, mostly because you had one hell of a corner on him and Lujan was on his back the whole game. TC is Russel Wilson mobile, instead of a Cam Newton mobile. He extends the play to pass it and will run if he has to. With our weapons he only needs to extend the play an extra second to make huge plays.



Side note: I would like to thank the NDSU athletic department for the tickets I won to the Marker game from 1660. :D


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[Thumper 76]

Hey NDSU fans.

We play Mo State tomorrow...

Just saying.

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Eh, we play SIU, and here I sit arguing like a mother.


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[Thumper 76]

Also, it's not even the week of the game and the **** talk is beginning, but people will say it's not a real rivalry xlolx


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[steelbison]

[QUOTE=Thumper 76;2388723]How do you figure our O line sucks? I have never seen a team average 45 points per game with a terrible offensive line. Just wondering where in your statistical analysis you figure that one. TC did isn't even get touched last game. Seriously, show me why the offensive line has been awful. I'll wait.

Also, for SDSU having such a horrid defense, NDSU has only faced one offense that's on the same level as any of our 3 good opponents. EWU. And they put up a boatload of points. SDSU had to play defense against TCU, Cal Poly who leads the country in rushing and is averaging over 30 points per game out of their unique triple option, and Western Illinois who had the nations leading rusher until they played SDSU. Iowa isn't an offensive juggernaut, neither is CSU, and Illinois State lost to EIU, Indiana State, and really flexed their muscles against hapless Northwester to the tune of 9 points. So don't get too giddy about the bison defense just yet. They are likely good, but SDSUs defense is likely much better than they have shown to date. They didn't shut down a fairly high powered WIU offense by mistake.

And I'm not sold on you having the best offensive line yet personally. They had a good game against Iowa. But to swagger around crowing about being the best after what an undersized CSU defense did to them at home is a bit much.

But please keep being the stereotype of a bison fan and reminding me why I hate NDSU.

Thumper, it's OK. It's the same old same old from you. I could go back years!! I tell you how it is and you tell me how great you are! LOL You keep telling yourself that how great a win the WIU game was. I call it like I see it. You have faced crappy defenses all year. Like I said, can't wait until we destroy you! You believe your oline is good. I don't. When you can't run the ball effectively except against Drake I question your O-line. Add to the fact your defense hasn't stopped anyone this year. Even WIU ran all over you. You are almost giving up 6yd a carry on the year. That is going to cause you problems in the Valley my friend.

Thumper I would be worried. Two more losses and you probably miss the playoffs. Which means once we beat you you are a loss away from sitting at home with your great team LMAO!!

[POD Knows]

Hey NDSU fans.

We play Mo State tomorrow...

Just saying.

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Hey, I am completely aware of that and mentioned the MSU game in my posts. I really think this game is going to be more interesting than people think, I hope not but there seems to be a little different mood in Springfield, MO. I hope we crush them do dust and probably will.

[Professor Chaos]

Most NDSU fans DGAF.
Should we?

[POD Knows]

You're likely not wrong to be nervous about our offense, and not wrong to not be the slightest bit impressed with our defense right now. There's only one team that's scored more points in regulation against TCU all season, and that's Oklahoma. That's a team with weapons. Last year NDSU was able to shut down Wieneke, mostly because you had one hell of a corner on him and Lujan was on his back the whole game. TC is Russel Wilson mobile, instead of a Cam Newton mobile. He extends the play to pass it and will run if he has to. With our weapons he only needs to extend the play an extra second to make huge plays.



Side note: I would like to thank the NDSU athletic department for the tickets I won to the Marker game from 1660. :D


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JFC, don't we have a screening process on this? :D

[Thumper 76]

Thumper, it's OK. It's the same old same old from you. I could go back years!! I tell you how it is and you tell me how great you are! LOL You keep telling yourself that how great a win the WIU game was. I call it like I see it. You have faced crappy defenses all year. Like I said, can't wait until we destroy you! You believe your oline is good. I don't. When you can't run the ball effectively except against Drake I question your O-line. Add to the fact your defense hasn't stopped anyone this year. Even WIU ran all over you. You are almost giving up 6yd a carry on the year. That is going to cause you problems in the Valley my friend.

Thumper I would be worried. Two more losses and you probably miss the playoffs. Which means once we beat you you are a loss away from sitting at home with your great team LMAO!!

Wow, you are retarded. No way we aren't in the playoffs at 7-4. You're such a well of deep FCS knowledge. Apparently our run d has caused us massive problems so far in the Valley since we gave up a whopping 14 points to the first Valley team we've played, and held a guy who was leading the nation in rushing to 56 yards. But, you know, whatever helps you sleep at night.


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[Thumper 76]

JFC, don't we have a screening process on this? :D

You would think you would wouldn't you? :D


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[steelbison]

Wow, you are retarded. No way we aren't in the playoffs at 7-4. You're such a well of deep FCS knowledge. Apparently our run d has caused us massive problems so far in the Valley since we gave up a whopping 14 points to the first Valley team we've played, and held a guy who was leading the nation in rushing to 56 yards. But, you know, whatever helps you sleep at night.


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Thumper, you gave up 191 yards rushing at 6.1 per rush to WIU. That is not good my friend. And when you are 7-4 and your best victory is against ?? Youngstown that will get you in? What if you are tied with Poly at 7-4..Seriously, if you don't beat us or UNI what will be your great victory? I'm curious...

[BisonFan02]

You would think you would wouldn't you? :D


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Grats on the golden ticket bunny boy.....don't let your guard down when in the building. :D xlolx

[Thumper 76]

Thumper, you gave up 191 yards rushing at 6.1 per rush to WIU. That is not good my friend. And when you are 7-4 and your best victory is against ?? Youngstown that will get you in? What if you are tied with Poly at 7-4..Seriously, if you don't beat us or UNI what will be your great victory? I'm curious...
Well Youngstown, WIU will look pretty solid. Enlighten me to the last time a 7-4 team didn't make the playoffs from the MVFC since the playoffs expanded? Was it Youngstown after one of their awful ends to the season? Are you saying that the entire MVFC is garbage teams besides NDSU and UNI? And to be honest, I don't care if we give up 1000 yards per game if we only give up 14 points.


Grats on the golden ticket bunny boy.....don't let your guard down when in the building. :D xlolx

Lol oh I think I'll be ok. I'll be sure to be in blue so you can spot me easier :D

Plus, I'm glad I have experience with pissed off cattle, so I know how to dodge angry bison fans xlolx


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[steelbison]

Well Youngstown, WIU will look pretty solid. Enlighten me to the last time a 7-4 team didn't make the playoffs from the MVFC since the playoffs expanded? Was it Youngstown after one of their awful ends to the season? Are you saying that the entire MVFC is garbage teams besides NDSU and UNI? And to be honest, I don't care if we give up 1000 yards per game if we only give up 14 points.



Lol oh I think I'll be ok. I'll be sure to be in blue so you can spot me easier :D


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Thumper, the problem is when you play UNI or NDSU and give up 6+ per rush. their not going to score just 14 points....you don't get that? Also when they are ramming the ball down your throats your high powered offense will be sitting on the sideline...

Plus, can't wait until it's cold/rainy/windy and you are playing outside with that passing attack. That should be fun to watch...LOL

[Thumper 76]

Thumper, the problem is when you play UNI or NDSU and give up 6+ per rush. their not going to score just 14 points....you don't get that? Also when they are ramming the ball down your throats your high powered offense will be sitting on the sideline...

Plus, can't wait until it's cold/rainy/windy and you are playing outside with that passing attack. That should be fun to watch...LOL

I'm sure that was the theory for WIU as well, we saw that panned out. How'd that mighty rushing attack do at keeping EWU off the field?

And I'm so worried about our team that plays outdoors and is used to the elements being able to handle the weather.


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[steelbison]

I'm sure that was the theory for WIU as well, we saw that panned out. How'd that mighty rushing attack do at keeping EWU off the field?

And I'm so worried about our team that plays outdoors and is used to the elements being able to handle the weather.


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Listen Thumper, if you believe we have the same offense as WIU...well good luck with that. Again the EWU game we didn't have our starting Center, which if you haven't noticed the past two games has made a BIG difference. Also, I doubt we will ever go with three d-lineman like we did that game. Major error by our coaching staff.

Thumper I will leave you with this. I will take any bet you want on the NDSU game..You like to talk but will you actually back it up with a bet? I am willing to put my money where my mouth is..

[Thumper 76]

Listen Thumper, if you believe we have the same offense as WIU...well good luck with that. Again the EWU game we didn't have our starting Center, which if you haven't noticed the past two games has made a BIG difference. Also, I doubt we will ever go with three d-lineman like we did that game. Major error by our coaching staff.

Thumper I will leave you with this. I will take any bet you want on the NDSU game..You like to talk but will you actually back it up with a bet? I am willing to put my money where my mouth is..

Well first, let's check some numbers:

Scoring offense: NDSU 32 WIU 28.5

Passing offense: NDSU 207.8 WIU 229.8

Rushing offense: NDSU 235.8 WIU 188.8

Total offense: NDSU 443.5 WIU 418.5

Here's whats really interesting

Rushing ypc: NDSU 5 WIU 5 SDSU 4.5

Rushing TDs: NDSU 7 WIU 9

Passing ypa: NDSU 9.1 WIU 6.9 SDSU 9.5

Passing TDs: NDSU 8 WIU 6

Well now, isn't that fascinating. They seem really really similar side by side don't they? Hmmm, that's weird. See I've watched NDSU and SDSU games, and if I didn't watch them I listened on the the radio. And here's the thing. SDSU may be heavy on the pass, but their running game isn't near as putrid as its played up to be. You know what else, this NDSU offense isn't the NDSU offense of legends past, the ground and pound. Sure they run the ball, but you'd guys are the most explosive NDSU offense I've ever seen. Which means you pass more. The old NDSU in that Illinois State game wouldn't have been up 35-10 at half, but they would have still won by that much because they would have ground them down and put up a bunch of second half points running the ball. You couldn't score when you went old fashioned ground and pound NDSU. You don't have the offensive line you used to. That's ok, your offense is still good, it's just different from what most of you blowhards go on and on about.

If you want to make a bet on the game, meet me tailgating before the game. I'll be more than happy to oblige. I'll likely be around IBY, POD, or TheKingpin. Or just message me on here.






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[steelbison]

Well first, let's check some numbers:

Scoring offense: NDSU 32 WIU 28.5



Passing offense: NDSU 207.8 WIU 229.8

Rushing offense: NDSU 235.8 WIU 188.8

Total offense: NDSU 443.5 WIU 418.5

Here's whats really interesting

Rushing ypc: NDSU 5 WIU 5 SDSU 4.5

Rushing TDs: NDSU 7 WIU 9

Passing ypa: NDSU 9.1 WIU 6.9 SDSU 9.5

Passing TDs: NDSU 8 WIU 6

Well now, isn't that fascinating. They seem really really similar side by side don't they? Hmmm, that's weird. See I've watched NDSU and SDSU games, and if I didn't watch them I listened on the the radio. And here's the thing. SDSU may be heavy on the pass, but their running game isn't near as putrid as its played up to be. You know what else, this NDSU offense isn't the NDSU offense of legends past, the ground and pound. Sure they run the ball, but you'd guys are the most explosive NDSU offense I've ever seen. Which means you pass more. The old NDSU in that Illinois State game wouldn't have been up 35-10 at half, but they would have still won by that much because they would have ground them down and put up a bunch of second half points running the ball. You couldn't score when you went old fashioned ground and pound NDSU. You don't have the offensive line you used to. That's ok, your offense is still good, it's just different from what most of you blowhards go on and on about.

If you want to make a bet on the game, meet me tailgating before the game. I'll be more than happy to oblige. I'll likely be around IBY, POD, or TheKingpin. Or just message me on here.
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Thumper, you are a special kind of stupid. Like I said comparing WIU to us good luck with that!!! Have you looked at the teams we have played? I'm done with you.

But I do leave you with this. $100 bet I'll take the Bison next week. pretty simple..You in? or are you out?

[F'N Hawks]

Thumper, you are a special kind of stupid. Like I said comparing WIU to us good luck with that!!! Have you looked at the teams we have played? I'm done with you.

But I do leave you with this. $100 bet I'll take the Bison next week. pretty simple..You in? or are you out?


Massey predicts the line will come out at NDSU -16. They are usually pretty close, must use same matrix.

Carry on.....

[jacksfan29]

Your arguing with someone who still thinks Iowa is a good FB team. He is also under the impression NDSU have played a "murderers row" type of schedule. EWU is the only really solid team they have played. CSU are good, Iowa are terrible, ISUr will finish bottom 4 in MVFC play this year.

He also thinks the elements are going to be a big deal for SDSU even though the two top pass catchers are a 6'4" physical possession receiver and a 6'5" tight end. Our front seven does need to prove they can handle the run, that he is correct about. The rest? Just give it up, you are arguing with someone whose knowledge of anything outside of Bison FB is limited.


I'm sure that was the theory for WIU as well, we saw that panned out. How'd that mighty rushing attack do at keeping EWU off the field?

And I'm so worried about our team that plays outdoors and is used to the elements being able to handle the weather.


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[Thumper 76]

Thumper, you are a special kind of stupid. Like I said comparing WIU to us good luck with that!!! Have you looked at the teams we have played? I'm done with you.

But I do leave you with this. $100 bet I'll take the Bison next week. pretty simple..You in? or are you out?

Already told you where I'll be if you want to bet. Easy to shout and be a blowhard on the Internet, let's meet face to face, have some beers, and shake like gentlemen. I've done it before with Bison fans and paid up. But feel free to shout all week about me "not backing up my talk".

Also, who you have played? You mean that EWU team with a defense that makes people think of the Steel Curtain defenses? Or the CSU team that just gave up 50+ to CCU? Or the Iowa team that just lost to Northwestern? Or maybe it's the powerhouse that is Illinois State, who lost to EIU and Indy St? You haven't played real defensive power houses so far to be honest.


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[BisonTru]

Next week is going to be fun. There's so much hope.

Just a reminder to my Bison brethren. If you're considering going down to the crib. Stop. It's an ambush. xlolx


http://youtu.be/wCf0Hj34RUkxlolx

[Thumper 76]

Your arguing with someone who still thinks Iowa is a good FB team. He is also under the impression NDSU have played a "murderers row" type of schedule. EWU is the only really solid team they have played. CSU are good, Iowa are terrible, ISUr will finish bottom 4 in MVFC play this year.

He also thinks the elements are going to be a big deal for SDSU even though the two top pass catchers are a 6'4" physical possession receiver and a 6'5" tight end. Our front seven does need to prove they can handle the run, that he is correct about. The rest? Just give it up, you are arguing with someone whose knowledge of anything outside of Bison FB is limited.

But it's so fun


Also, interesting to note that I haven't claimed a Jacks victory at all. Just pointed out that our o line isn't bad by any stretch, that NDSU isn't the same NDSU, haven't said NDSU is bad at all, and pointed out that our defense likely isn't as bad as it showed against TCU and Cal Poly. How dare I.

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[Bison56]

Next week is going to be fun. There's so much hope.

Just a reminder to my Bison brethren. If you're considering going down to the crib. Stop. It's an ambush. xlolx


http://youtu.be/wCf0Hj34RUkxlolx

That should be banned from the internet.

[Thumper 76]

That should be banned from the internet.

I wish I could make it so every time I posted it would automatically play on your computer when you saw my posts.





That would likely get me banned though xlolx


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[Bison56]

I wish I could make it so every time I posted it would automatically play on your computer when you saw my posts.





That would likely get me banned though xlolx


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I would find you and do things and stuff.

[Thumper 76]

I would find you and do things and stuff.

JACK ATTACK!!!


I should bring a boom box to tailgating.....

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[BisonTru]

JACK ATTACK!!!


I should bring a boom box to tailgating.....

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http://www.relatably.com/m/img/do-it-memes/3155140.jpeg


that NDSU isn't the same NDSU,

https://media.makeameme.org/created/ok-rj5f72.jpg

[Thumper 76]

https://media.makeameme.org/created/ok-rj5f72.jpg

It's not. Much more explosive offensively than years past, and much weaker on the back end of the defense. Doesn't make them a less than great team, or less favorites to win it all, it's just a little bit different look IMHO. I'm more worried about getting burned deep than ground down by the running game than I ever have been coming into a Marker Game.


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[BisonTru]

It's not. Much more explosive offensively than years past, and much weaker on the back end of the defense. Doesn't make them a less than great team, or less favorites to win it all, it's just a little bit different look IMHO. I'm more worried about getting burned deep than ground down by the running game than I ever have been coming into a Marker Game.


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We ground down Iowa. I know it's Iowa, and on here they are garbage, but that's still a big 10 team.

[Thumper 76]

We ground down Iowa. I know it's Iowa, and on here they are garbage, but that's still a big 10 team.

I'm not saying it's not a great accomplishment. Or that you are incapable of grinding down teams. Just seems to me you are much more potent passing for big plays than years past, which is weird considering you lost Wentz.

But honestly where are you looking besides bisonville that is saying that Iowa is a great FBS team.


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[BisonTru]

I'm not saying it's not a great accomplishment. Or that you are incapable of grinding down teams. Just seems to me you are much more potent passing for big plays than years past, which is weird considering you lost Wentz.

But honestly where are you looking besides bisonville that is saying that Iowa is a great FBS team.


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I never said they were great. They are still a P5 team that plays power football.

We were much more potent in the air last year with Wentz. Go re watch the SDSU NDSU game from last year. It's a fun watch.😀

[Thumper 76]

I never said they were great. They are still a P5 team that plays power football.

We were much more potent in the air last year with Wentz. Go re watch the SDSU NDSU game from last year. It's a fun watch.😀

Statistics don't lie. The average yards per attempt was 5.8 last year, and have jumped by over 3 yards per attempt to 9.1 yards per attempt to this point. That's a pretty big jump. Offensively you killed us with converting crucial 3rd downs passing, per the norm for NDSU. This year the long pass play is more potent, likely because teams are choosing to attempt to have Stick beat them with the long ball trying to make the young QB hit the long ball instead of giving him the underneath stuff. Look at your scoring drives against Illinois state, and at least one of your TDs vs CSU, all had long explosive passing plays in them. The typical NDSU game goes wear you down until we get big runs in the second half, convert on 3rd with the short to intermediate routes, and sustain drives. This year the explosive long play over 20 yards has been more prominent.


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[dewey]

I have been very impressed with Sticks ability to throw an accurate deep ball. I agree that the secondary has been worse than previous years buy I have no doubt that those corners and safeties will get considerably better as the year goes along.

Dewey

[Thumper 76]

Did some quick stat diving for fun, cause maybe I'm an idiot. Fun facts:

Last year through four games the number of TDs inside the red zone was 10 out of 18 TDs.

This year the number is 4 out of 15.

Average gain per TD in 2015 through the first four games: 21.22

Average per TD this year: 27.8

However if you throw out the outlier for high and low of both, you get 27 yptd this year and 18.63 yptd last year to this point in the season. So it's almost a ten yard difference in where you are scoring from. That's a pretty big jump, especially considering the difficulty difference from last years schedule OOC to this years.

But please, explain how the offense of NDSU is less explosive than last year please.

All I'm saying is basically what Dewey just said. The bison offense is better this year, but the defense is worse. Not against the run or in being able to run, but against the pass and in the passing offense. Actually the rushing stats are damn near identical from last year to this year in ypc and in ypg. Creepily identical. Haven't checked the defensive stats yet.


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[clenz]

I never said they were great. They are still a P5 team that plays power football.

We were much more potent in the air last year with Wentz. Go re watch the SDSU NDSU game from last year. It's a fun watch.😀

They are a P5 team giving up 190 yards per game on the ground their last 7 games which includes Miami of Ohio, Iowa State, Rutgers and Northwestern.

[Thumper 76]

So I checked the defensive stats for SDSU and NDSU and compared them to last year, thank you to the MVFC page for the stats.

Rushing defense:

NDSU 2015: 104.5 ypg 3.5 ypc
NDSU 2016: 85 ypg 3 ypc

SDSU 2015: 173.5 ypg 4.5 ypc
SDSU 2016: 223 ypg 6.1 ypc

Passing defense:

NDSU 2015: 167 ypg 5.8 ypa 2nd in conference pass defense efficiency
NDSU 2016: 261 ypg 8.5 ypa 7th in conference pass defense efficiency

SDSU 2015: 197.8 ypg 6 ypa 3rd in conference pass defense efficiency
SDSU 2016: 245.8 ypg 7.2 ypa 4th in conference pass defense efficiency

So NDSU has a better runs defense than last year statistically so far (Jesus wept) and bombed in pass defense so far, which could help the run defense if teams just are passing instead of trying to run as much. Also faced better pass offenses so far.

SDSU is worse defensively across the board. Run defense isn't as atrocious as I thought it would be compared to last year. Feels like there should be a 100 ypg difference instead of 60 and the average ypc would be a 5 yd difference instead of around 1.5. Pass defense is worse too. Yikes, hopefully the WIU game was a sign of things to come.


Hey, ya think I'm ready for the game next week?




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[Schism55]

They are a P5 team giving up 190 yards per game on the ground their last 7 games which includes Miami of Ohio, Iowa State, Rutgers and Northwestern.
We can't all play the terror that is known as the Iowa St Cyclones.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400868888

[clenz]

Yeah. Iowa State is horrid. No question about it.

They ran for 51 yards against UNI. More than 120 on Iowa.

[ST_Lawson]

JACK ATTACK!!!


I should bring a boom box to tailgating.....

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Bring one of those FM transmitters so it starts coming out of NDSU vehicles.

[Thumper 76]

Bring one of those FM transmitters so it starts coming out of NDSU vehicles.
xlolx you sir, are an evil genius.


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[BisonTru]

They are a P5 team giving up 190 yards per game on the ground their last 7 games which includes Miami of Ohio, Iowa State, Rutgers and Northwestern.

Last 7? You had to throw in the last two games from last year to squeak that number higher.

BTW use whatever games you want NDSU is pulling that average up. Pretty good for a team that no longer can grind the ball.

[Professor Chaos]

They are a P5 team giving up 190 yards per game on the ground their last 7 games which includes Miami of Ohio, Iowa State, Rutgers and Northwestern.
And every UNI football player would still give their left nut to play there. xthumbsupx

[Thumper 76]

Pretty good for a team that no longer can grind the ball.

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If you want to take that from everything I posted and said, that's not my fault.



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[CappinHard]

Bring one of those FM transmitters so it starts coming out of NDSU vehicles.

This is perfect. Transmit over the pregame show. Lol, I can imagine people's faces. Especially the people on here who have heard the song.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm not saying it's not a great accomplishment. Or that you are incapable of grinding down teams. Just seems to me you are much more potent passing for big plays than years past, which is weird considering you lost Wentz.

But honestly where are you looking besides bisonville that is saying that Iowa is a great FBS team.


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NDSU hasn't changed anything IMO. Take what the defense gives them.

[Thumper 76]

This is perfect. Transmit over the pregame show. Lol, I can imagine people's faces. Especially the people on here who have heard the song.

You would know exactly who the people were who post on here faster than bringing an AGS flag.


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[dewey]

Here is an article from the Fargo Forum about there being added excitement at MSU this week for the NDSU game.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/4131913-change-missouri-state-fans-have-reason-attend-bison-game

Dewey

[BisonTru]

You couldn't score when you went old fashioned ground and pound NDSU. You don't have the offensive line you used to. That's ok, your offense is still good, it's just different from what most of you blowhards go on and on about.




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If you want to take that from everything I posted and said, that's not my fault.



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**** it. A little over 12 hours till marker week. Here's the deal, I'm not going to profess we got this game in the bag. Our secondary is not what it was last year and Weineke (sp?) is every bit as impressive as ever. But this idea that we don't have the rams up front and the ability to lean on teams just isn't true. It's what we do. The only team in this five year run that has come in and shut it down to at least a respectful level is UNI. With your 400+ rushing yards allowed against the Mustangs, I don't see the Jack Attack shutting down the big uglies.

Where we agree, and I think most reasonable Bison fans will agree with you, is that our secondary is suspect. Weineke, Taryn, and that TE and your other weapons could win this game for you all.

[X-Factor]

I'm not sure who started this garbage (Bison fan or Jack), but the Bison are playing MSU this week. I couldn't tell you who we have on the schedule for next week ;) Maybe the Jack's will look past SIU.....we all know how pent up they are when it comes to NDSU.

[Thumper 76]

I'm not sure who started this garbage (Bison fan or Jack), but the Bison are playing MSU this week. I couldn't tell you who we have on the schedule for next week ;) Maybe the Jack's will look past SIU.....we all know how pent up they are when it comes to NDSU.

It was a bison fan if you were wondering. I just kept it going :D


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[Houndawg]

I'm not sure who started this garbage (Bison fan or Jack), but the Bison are playing MSU this week. I couldn't tell you who we have on the schedule for next week ;) Maybe the Jack's will look past SIU.....we all know how pent up they are when it comes to NDSU.

That would be nice but wouldn't matter - they put 41 up against TCU, SIU will be able to declare moral victory if they hold the Jacks under 60.:(

[Thumper 76]

That would be nice but wouldn't matter - they put 41 up against TCU, SIU will be able to declare moral victory if they hold the Jacks under 60.:(

You know they prolly need those sandbags in Florida right now.....


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[clenz]

You know they prolly need those sandbags in Florida right now.....


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UNI scored 42

Jacks might score 60...they have a competent offense.

[clenz]

Last 7? You had to throw in the last two games from last year to squeak that number higher.

BTW use whatever games you want NDSU is pulling that average up. Pretty good for a team that no longer can grind the ball.
Sorry...

Taking out the last two of last year AND the NDSU game Iowa has played
Miami of Ohio 158 yards
Iowa State 126 yards
Rutgers 193 yards
Northwestern 198 yards

In those 4 games Iowa is giving up 170 yards per game at about 4.5 yards per carry.

Through one quarter against Minnesota the Hawkeyes are giving up 4.4 yards per carry.

But year...it's clearly NDSU that is the issue with the Iowa rush defense.

[Twentysix]

KU is making TCU look like a jv squad. Score is way closer than the game feels. Bodes poorly gor sdsu.iowa also looks like complete ****.

[TheKingpin28]

KU is making TCU look like a jv squad. Score is way closer than the game feels. Bodes poorly gor sdsu.iowa also looks like complete ****.

Whatever you do, do not let Thumper see this. EVER.

[Thumper 76]

Whatever you do, do not let Thumper see this. EVER.

All I said was that TCU always has struggled with Kansas for god knows what reason. The majority of the games between them are one score games, even last year when TCU was a borderline playoff team. You were the one who kept going with it so I proved you wrong.

Also, I will mention the irony that when I mentioned the MSU score to you you used the exact same argument not twenty minutes later. You aren't wrong, but it sure is funny to me.


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[TheKingpin28]

All I said was that TCU always has struggled with Kansas for god knows what reason. The majority of the games between them are one score games, even last year when TCU was a borderline playoff team. You were the one who kept going with it so I proved you wrong.

Also, I will mention the irony that when I mentioned the MSU score to you you used the exact same argument not twenty minutes later. You aren't wrong, but it sure is funny to me.


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Maybe in Big XII play, but overall, I proved your wrong.

[Thumper 76]

Maybe in Big XII play, but overall, I proved your wrong.

Wrong again.
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[TheKingpin28]

Wrong again.
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Yes but look at the rest about a few down where I proved myself right. Come on man.

[Thumper 76]

Maybe in Big XII play, but overall, I proved your wrong.


Yes but look at the rest about a few down where I proved myself right. Come on man.

I said since entering the big XII they have struggled with them. In what way did you prove me wrong at all?

Everybody, this is what it's like arguing with a bison fan.


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[TheKingpin28]

I said since entering the big XII they have struggled with them. In what way did you prove me wrong at all?

Everybody, this is what it's like arguing with a bison fan.


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Yes and I showed overall as well as conference, but a W is a W. You are just pissy about the Dakota Marker being with NDSU for so long and that is worth the ribbing. :D

[Twentysix]

Missouri st looks pretty good

[POD Knows]

Missouri st looks pretty good

Improved but we are playing like ****

[Twentysix]

Improved but we are playing like ****

A lot of it is msu getting pressure.

[Thumper 76]

Improved but we are playing like ****

MSU looks to have a good defense, and missing a couple fullbacks as your lead blocker for a power scheme is a tough one to absorb. Reminds me of the Marker game last year where the D plays well but the offense is getting nothing. I think MSU might be legit this year.


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[POD Knows]

A lot of it is msu getting pressure.

Or missed assignments, our center is having a tough game but their Right D End looks pretty good. A TD before the half would have been huge but our offense is really struggling. D looks good after first drive but let's face it, this is MSU.

[MSUDuo]

A lot of it is msu getting pressure.
Agreed. As upset as I am about our play calling on offense, our defense has risen to the challenge. 2 plays is pretty much the difference right now.

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[BisonFan02]

Agreed. As upset as I am about our play calling on offense, our defense has risen to the challenge. 2 plays is pretty much the difference right now.

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And a missed delay of game on MSU's only 3 points. Bison D playing well....the O looks pedestrian. Time to go up two scores and milk the clock.

[POD Knows]

And a missed delay of game on MSU's only 3 points. Bison D playing well....the O looks pedestrian. Time to go up two scores and milk the clock.

We currently don't appear capable of milking the clock, if we had scored a touchdown at the end of the half, MSU would probably fold but we didn't so, there you go. I don't think MSU scores again unless we turn the ball over deep in our zone or something.

[BisonFan02]

Quick MVFC scoreboard glance.....WTF is going on. xlolx shades of 2010?

[BisonTru]

Quick MVFC scoreboard glance.....WTF is going on. xlolx shades of 2010?

Yeah, this conference is going to beat the crap out of each other. Whoever can stay healthy and get to 5 wins in conference is getting in the playoffs and might make some noise.

[BisonFan02]

And a missed delay of game on MSU's only 3 points. Bison D playing well....the O looks pedestrian. Time to go up two scores and milk the clock.

Bump. That game was gross....but I'll take 27-3.

[Twentysix]

Missouri state is pretty good. They are going to win games.

[Bisonator]

Missouri state is pretty good. They are going to win games.

They are improved but not good. Should have been 45-3.

[ytownchief22]

YSU defense just dominated the Red Birds today. 1st win in Normal since 2006.... The last time YSU made the playoffs. Just saying....

[Thumper 76]

YSU defense just dominated the Red Birds today. 1st win in Normal since 2006.... The last time YSU made the playoffs. Just saying....

So you're saying if the Penguins made it to the playoffs it would be a return to.....Normal?





I'll show myself out.....


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[TheKingpin28]

YSU defense just dominated the Red Birds today. 1st win in Normal since 2006.... The last time YSU made the playoffs. Just saying....

With the lack of offense from YSU and ISUr missing 98% of their offense from last year, this does not bode well for the Penguins. While it is not November and this does not surprise me, wait until November and show me an offense, and I will think YSU has a chance to show the Valley something. Nice win, but you only have 1 quality win, 1 FBS loss, 1 mid/lower MVFC win and 2 NEC wins with one being RMU. I need to see more before I give them a "lock" for the playoffs.

[NDSUtk]

Holy hell is Western pissing this game down their leg against ISUb

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[MSUDuo]

They are improved but not good. Should have been 45-3.
So why wasn't it?

I'm going to catch flak for barking after a loss but NDSU has best good teams worse than they did today.

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[ytownchief22]

I never said we are a lock for the playoffs. Trust me, I know better than anyone not to get excited early in the season. I think this defense is legit and with Davis' running ability at QB we can win some low scoring games which we would not have in years past.

[penguinpower]

We won in october

[MSUBear42]

They are improved but not good. Should have been 45-3.
What the f does that even mean??

Majority of your points came off of stupid ass turnovers by our second string QB.

If anything, this game SHOULD have been 14-10 or something close to that.

No doubt NDSU is good, but come on.

[Twentysix]

What the f does that even mean??

Majority of your points came off of stupid ass turnovers by our second string QB.

If anything, this game SHOULD have been 14-10 or something close to that.

No doubt NDSU is good, but come on.

Yeah my team got 4 turnovers and won 27-3... some of these other bison fans are acting like the same kind of homer a-holes that all FBS teams act like.... it's getting pretty bad. Literally every single good thing any other team does its bitch about NDSU missing assignments and no credit to the other team, reverse the situation and its all NDSU forcing it. NDSU made some mistakes for sure and that is college football, but Missouri State played a lot of great defense. They will win some games in the valley.

[MSUDuo]

Yeah my team got 4 turnovers and won 27-3... some of these other bison fans are acting like the same kind of homer a-holes that all FBS teams act like.... it's getting pretty bad. Literally every single good thing any other team does its bitch about NDSU missing assignments and no credit to the other team, reverse the situation and its all NDSU forcing it. NDSU made some mistakes for sure and that is college football, but Missouri State played a lot of great defense. They will win some games in the valley.

xsmileyclapxxsmileyclapxxsmileyclapx

[centennial]

Yeah my team got 4 turnovers and won 27-3... some of these other bison fans are acting like the same kind of homer a-holes that all FBS teams act like.... it's getting pretty bad. Literally every single good thing any other team does its bitch about NDSU missing assignments and no credit to the other team, reverse the situation and its all NDSU forcing it. NDSU made some mistakes for sure and that is college football, but Missouri State played a lot of great defense. They will win some games in the valley.
NDSU defense was lights out after the first drive. Offense was sputtering without the fullback. I still think Missouri State planned well, their defense looked as good as Iowa in the first quarter. It's just that they didn't have the athletes to compete after the first half.

Coach Steckel has good pedigree. He has made good progress.

[Bisonator]

What the f does that even mean??

Majority of your points came off of stupid ass turnovers by our second string QB.

If anything, this game SHOULD have been 14-10 or something close to that.

No doubt NDSU is good, but come on.

Your offense didn't do anything after the first drive. Our offense kept shooting themselves in the foot. Couldn't finish drives. Left at least 3 touchdowns out there. You have some good players and your team is improving but still bottom third in the valley IMO.

[BigGoosie13]

Holy ****, SDSU ran a jet sweep with a TE, and it worked for a 20 yd td run. Goedert is unreal. Also, SDSU's all whites are really, really sexy.

[Twentysix]

NDSU defense was lights out after the first drive. Offense was sputtering without the fullback. I still think Missouri State planned well, their defense looked as good as Iowa in the first quarter. It's just that they didn't have the athletes to compete after the first half.

Coach Steckel has good pedigree. He has made good progress.

Indeed, the D has been looking better. It will be interesting how the DB fair against SDSU next week. The D seems to be leading the team again though, which has been a good thing for NDSU in the past.

[Twentysix]

Your offense didn't do anything after the first drive. Our offense kept shooting themselves in the foot. Couldn't finish drives. Left at least 3 touchdowns out there. You have some good players and your team is improving but still bottom third in the valley IMO.

Which teams exactly are the bottom third in your mind?

UNI ISUr and Missouri State (Cause you already stated Missouri State is in your bottom 3rd)?

2016 MVFC Standings



TEAM
CONF
OVR


North Dakota State
2-0
5-0


Youngstown State
2-0
4-1


South Dakota State
1-0
2-2


Indiana State
1-1
3-2


Missouri State
1-1
3-2


Northern Iowa
1-1
2-3


South Dakota
1-1
2-3


Western Illinois
0-1
3-1


Southern Illinois
0-1
2-2


Illinois State
0-3
2-4



WIU vs ISUb 36-35 WIU in the 4th 11min left.

SDSU vs SIU 7-0 SDSU in the 1st with 9 min left.

[PantherRob82]

Holy ****, SDSU ran a jet sweep with a TE, and it worked for a 20 yd td run. Goedert is unreal. Also, SDSU's all whites are really, really sexy.

I switched games just to see. They look clean, not sure about sexy. ;)