A little love for Colgate and the Patriot League

[Go...gate]

Nice article.

http://herosports.com/collegefootball/lets-just-admit-wrong-colgate-patriot-league/#

[RichH2]

He did some research. Good article.

[KPSUL]

Good to see Colgate getting recognition.

[DFW HOYA]

A quote:

"This is just the beginning. Get more and more used to seeing Colgate, Fordham, maybe a Bucknell or Lafayette or Lehigh with its awesome freshman RB Dom Bragalone (a former Parade All American, plug plug, hint, hint of future). These teams are going to pepper the FCS playoffs in coming years."

Ignoring Georgetown-- sure, I get it. but Holy Cross too?

[Sader87]

A quote:

"This is just the beginning. Get more and more used to seeing Colgate, Fordham, maybe a Bucknell or Lafayette or Lehigh with its awesome freshman RB Dom Bragalone (a former Parade All American, plug plug, hint, hint of future). These teams are going to pepper the FCS playoffs in coming years."

Ignoring Georgetown-- sure, I get it. but Holy Cross too?

We're getting used to it....need a new coach to revive Holy Cross' football swag.

[Pards Rule]

Lafayette is in the mix!! Well we got a rebuild to do first.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

When will the full allotment of scholarships be in place for the PL?

[Fordham]

When will the full allotment of scholarships be in place for the PL? next season, save for Fordham who already has four full scholarship classes, and Gtown who chooses not to have any.

[DFW HOYA]

next season, save for Fordham who already has four full scholarship classes, and Gtown who chooses not to have any.

Change that to "and Gtown who is not going to have any for the forseeable future."

[bluehenbillk]

A quote:

"This is just the beginning. Get more and more used to seeing Colgate, Fordham, maybe a Bucknell or Lafayette or Lehigh with its awesome freshman RB Dom Bragalone (a former Parade All American, plug plug, hint, hint of future). These teams are going to pepper the FCS playoffs in coming years."

Ignoring Georgetown-- sure, I get it. but Holy Cross too?

Thanks for the tidbit. I followed Bragalone last year as Delaware was recruiting him - Lehigh surely did get a great RB - glad to see he's doing well.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Change that to "and Gtown who is not going to have any for the forseeable future."

If Georgetown does indeed follow through with the facility improvement then the Hoyas have a shot. It's been proven that the grant in aid route can have a pretty high ceiling. Given what Georgetown has to offer overall, the Hoyas don't have to be hopeless imo.

With that said, it's on Georgetown to make the commitment. That's why they've generally been terrible the last 15 years.....

Next year will be interesting. The league has the POTENTIAL to be 3-4 teams deep. Colgate will be fringe Top 10 with Fordham and potentially Lehigh getting some Top 25 to love to start the year. Holy Cross will be interesting too. I think they'll be two teams that finish in the regular season Top 15/20. The league has to get better on defense. Fordham and Lehigh were horrific on that side of the ball. Holy Cross was not much better....

Bucknell seems too "meh" to be relevant nationally. Lafayette has too huge of a hole to climb out of to seriously consider competing in 2016.

[Pard4Life]

Lafayette won't be competitive until 2017.

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

Will a redshirt year for freshman be allowed?

[RichH2]

Not now. PL redshirt rules quite restrictive,more as a budgetary move than any deep philosophical attachment. Partly a holdover from our Ivy Lite origin. Inasmuch as Ivies are selective in following the spirit of the rules by moving athletes in and out of school,that basis is weak. Seems likely that PL will broaden eligibility somewhat . It is one of the major stumbling blocks to any expansion the number of football members.

[ColgateTD]

Not now. PL redshirt rules quite restrictive,more as a budgetary move than any deep philosophical attachment. Partly a holdover from our Ivy Lite origin. Inasmuch as Ivies are selective in following the spirit of the rules by moving athletes in and out of school,that basis is weak. Seems likely that PL will broaden eligibility somewhat . It is one of the major stumbling blocks to any expansion the number of football members.

Believe Victor Steffen and Adam Bridgeforth will play next year after sitting out this year with injuries.

[RichH2]

Believe Victor Steffen and Adam Bridgeforth will play next year after sitting out this year with injuries.
Lehigh likely to have 2 also in Lambert and Knott.
LU brought in a huge class ,half of whom could have been redshirted under NCAA rules. CAA routinely does this. The rule difference pretty much precludes any of those schools seriously considering a move to PL.

[DFW HOYA]

If Georgetown does indeed follow through with the facility improvement then the Hoyas have a shot. It's been proven that the grant in aid route can have a pretty high ceiling. Given what Georgetown has to offer overall, the Hoyas don't have to be hopeless imo. With that said, it's on Georgetown to make the commitment. That's why they've generally been terrible the last 15 years.....



I don't follow this line of reasoning. A facility gets Georgetown out of the no-man's land of nonscholarship football?

[Model Citizen]

Is Georgetown really completely non-scholarship? Or is this your shorthand term meaning "way fewer equivalencies than anyone else in the Patriot League"?

[RichH2]

I don't follow this line of reasoning. A facility gets Georgetown out of the no-man's land of nonscholarship football?
He's not saying that it does. Better facilities plus GU's well dserved reputation will help the program. Whether or not Hoyas ever go schollie,the only answer to their situation is funding. Hoyas with 40 equivalencies would be quite competitive.

[ngineer]

With G'town's panache, and improved facilities they can compete with the 'grant in aid' model as opposed to athletic scholarships. They can give out the same money, just in a different model based on need.

[RichH2]

According to DFW,the problem is miniscule funding. Agree need grants would ,at the right level,would do the trick for Hoyas.

[Go...gate]

He's not saying that it does. Better facilities plus GU's well dserved reputation will help the program. Whether or not Hoyas ever go schollie,the only answer to their situation is funding. Hoyas with 40 equivalencies would be quite competitive.

Agreed.

[DFW HOYA]

Whether or not Hoyas ever go schollie,the only answer to their situation is funding. Hoyas with 40 equivalencies would be quite competitive.

I question this argument on a number of levels. If it were the case, why did none of the other six schools adopt it?