Should the Bowls invite FCS teams to fill out their schedules?

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

I heard that the bowls are not going to have enough FBS teams to fill out their schedules this year. At last count, we have 76 FBS teams that have the requisite number of wins and 40 bowl games (not counting the national championship). There has been some discussion of inviting a few 5-7 teams to a bowl. I respectfully disagree. I believe that the bowls should invite some of the 7-win FCS teams that did not make the playoffs to a bowl. These teams are:

Northern Arizona (Big Sky)
North Dakota (Big Sky)
Towson (CAA)
Dartmouth (Ivy)
Harvard (Ivy)
Penn (Ivy)
NC Central (MEAC)*
Bethune-Cookman (MEAC)*
North Carolina A&T (MEAC)*
South Carolina State (MEAC)
Tennessee-Martin (OVC)
San Diego (Pioneer)
Jacksonville (Pioneer)
Morehead State (Pioneer)
Western Carolina (Southern)
Central Arkansas (Southland)
Alcorn State (SWAC)*
Grambling State (SWAC)*
Prairie View A&M (SWAC)

*potential conference representative at the Celebration Bowl

My reasoning behind it is would give the teams selected a taste of the postseason. What do you think? I think it would also be a chance of a lifetime to play in a bowl game.

[SUPharmacist]

Nope.

[EKU Toss Sweep]

Novel idea, albeit crazy. Roll me up whatever you are smoking because we don't grow that here in Kentucky. I don't see FCS teams getting bowl invites. No way. No how.

[SUPharmacist]

The Bowl system is watered down as it is, no way do they invite an FCS team that couldn't make the FCS postseason. They will go sub-500 FBS from big programs that may have some fans show up.

[Mocs123]

The remaining bowls will go to 5-7 FBS teams that have fan bases that will travel.

Bowls are about $ and selling tickets.

[BisonFan02]

0.0% chance. Can't make the FCS playoffs and are eligible? WTF are you doing trying to play in a FBS bowl game?

[ST_Lawson]

The remaining bowls will go to 5-7 FBS teams that have fan bases that will travel.

Bowls are about $ and selling tickets.

Yea, something tells me Nebraska or Mizzou is going to bring a heck of a lot more fans (and buy a lot more tickets) than pretty much any FCS team (outside of maybe NDSU, but probably not even them).

[clenz]

Sure, you going to outdraw any of those FBS schools?

None of those listed schools even had attendance for their largest drawing game of the season at home to make a blip on the bottom line with ticket sales. No way they'd be anywhere near enough buyers

[TypicalTribe]

The only FCS invite that would generate interest is the most obese wish was in the playoffs: Harvard.


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[Bisonator]

You think they'd waive the 6 FBS win criteria to allow an FCS school to play rather then waive it for a 5 win FBS school? Pardon me but you are nuts. Not going to happen. xrulesx

[clenz]

You think they'd waive the 6 FBS win criteria to allow an FCS school to play rather then waive it for a 5 win FBS school? Pardon me but you are nuts. Not going to happen. xrulesx

I think it's only 5FBS wins, technically. You can count 1 FCS game, so only 5 FBs are "required"

[Pards Rule]

The Bowl system is watered down as it is, no way do they invite an FCS team that couldn't make the FCS postseason. They will go sub-500 FBS from big programs that may have some fans show up.

I say let them eat fieldturf. Sleep in their own soiled bed with this ridiculous preponderance of bowl games.

[BluBengal07]

that what happens when foolish bowls are created, to be created. there are too many bowls now.

[UNI Pike]

North Texas vs the college of faith in the American Standard Toilet Bowl

From my NSA monitored nexus 5

[Bisonoline]

The FBS has come out AGAINST playing FCS teams in the regular season. Now some think they are going to let them in their bowl system?????????

[JSUSoutherner]

The FBS has come out AGAINST playing FCS teams in the regular season. Now some think they are going to let them in their bowl system?????????
Cause they are afraid of us beating them. :D

[tribefan40]

Celebration Bowl....

[BisonFan02]

The FCS NIT

[bonarae]

If only the Presidents would allow us... xsighx

[MTfan4life]

The remaining bowls will go to 5-7 FBS teams that have fan bases that will travel.

Bowls are about $ and selling tickets.

I'm pretty sure they said the final spots will come down to APR scores.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Surprised the obvious has not been stated. It's not about FCS participation, they simply need to do away with half the bowls.

[The Yo Show]

You know what? Considering some fbs teams are getting a bowl game at 5-7 this year no matter how you look at it, portland state is only two fbs wins away from qualifying based on the quals the 5-7 fbs team has (1 fcs win, 4 fbs wins).

[Gil Dobie]

Sure, for the Ivy's, MEAC and SWAC it would be great.

[ElonFirefighter]

How about they let App state 5 bowl games. The one they have qualified for and the 4 extra needing a second team. Problem solved.

[BlackNGoldR3v0lut10n]

I think the bigger issue is that football have two separate subdivisions. You don't see that in basketball, baseball, volleyball, soccer or any other sport. I would suggest the subdivisions be done away with and have a larger playoff system like all the other sports. The bowls (what's left of them) would be considered a one game "NIT."

[Bisonoline]

Surprised the obvious has not been stated. It's not about FCS participation, they simply need to do away with half the bowls.

Let the free market decide it. If there isnt any money in it they wont survive.

And no--FCS shouldnt be involved.

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Fair enough, but the problem is TV money. Money may rule, but that doesn't make a down-trodden bowl game attended by 15K a great success. Unfortunately, networks don't care how many people attend the game as long as the fans sitting at home enjoying the HD broadcast have their TVs tuned to their channel.

[clenz]

Fair enough, but the problem is TV money. Money may rule, but that doesn't make a down-trodden bowl game attended by 15K a great success. Unfortunately, networks don't care how many people attend the game as long as the fans sitting at home enjoying the HD broadcast have their TVs tuned to their channel.
Again, as an FCS fan we shouldn't really be poking fun at a bowl game - thousands of miles from both campus locations - drawing 15k when only about 4 teams in the entire FCS can out draw that for a game on their own damn campus against their biggest rivals.

Just thought I'd, once again, point that out.

[clenz]

Did some quick looking at title game attendance....

Basically any time the title game hasn't involved NDSU, App State, Georgia Southern or Marshall the attendance FOR OUR NATIONAL TITLE hasn't broken 15k.

So...if we can't draw 15k to our campus, nor for our national title game (unless one of the teams that could actually draw 15k for a home game) is in the title game, maybe we should shut the **** up about bowl game attendance.

Just a thought. Feel free to keep pissing into the 90 MPH wind on that topic though

[PAllen]

You know what? Considering some fbs teams are getting a bowl game at 5-7 this year no matter how you look at it, portland state is only two fbs wins away from qualifying based on the quals the 5-7 fbs team has (1 fcs win, 4 fbs wins).

Interesting thought on a possible scheduling philosophy. Schedule Eastern Michigan, Louisiana Monroe, Army, Wyoming, and Hawaii (get an extra game). Win those games and if you drop out of the playoffs in an early round, you may be the last bowl eligible team in Div-I.

[Bisonator]

I do wonder if this years situation will have any influence on FBS schools scheduling future FCS opponents. How many of these 5 win FBS schools could have been bowl eligible with an FCS win added on?

[clenz]

I do wonder if this years situation will have any influence on FBS schools scheduling future FCS opponents. How many of these 5 win FBS schools could have been bowl eligible with an FCS win added on?
On the flip side

UNC may get left out of the playoffs if they beat Clemson simply because they played 2 FCS teams

[Bisonator]

On the flip side

UNC may get left out of the playoffs if they beat Clemson simply because they played 2 FCS teams

Why would any FBS school schedule 2 FCS teams? Unless they were "Bobcatted" I suppose.:D

[clenz]

Why would any FBS school schedule 2 FCS teams? Unless they were "Bobcatted" I suppose.:D
They were.

[JayJ79]

Hearing some news stories about this shortage of "bowl eligible" teams makes me realize just how clueless the casual fan is about the general landscape of Div. I football.

I hear the "Celebration Bowl" listed in with all of the other FBS bowls.
And with talk about the use of APR to determine which 5-7 teams get in, people are talking about how Ivy schools will probably qualify.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I would be willing to bet if Ivies were being asked to Bowl games even if it is just something like the Potato Bowl they would accept.

[Laker]

Nebraska would be the first one in based on academic record. Mizzou has already turned it down. K-State is next and if they beat West Virginia on Sat. they are in anyway. Snyder said that they will wait to see what the players want if they lose. Minnesota and Illinois are in line and I know that the Gophers will not bring a big crowd anywhere.

41 bowls games- why?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I would be willing to bet if Ivies were being asked to Bowl games even if it is just something like the Potato Bowl they would accept.

You obviously don't know the Ivies.

[PAllen]

You obviously don't know the Ivies.

Yeah, there is no way Harvard is heading to Idaho to loose to Toledo.

[CockyGeek]

I'm glad there's a playoff system in FCS. It obviously works for every level of college football other than FBS for some reason. Just integrate these bowls into the playoff system. If an FCS team can play 16 games, then why can't one of the "big schools?"

[smallcollegefbfan]

I heard that the bowls are not going to have enough FBS teams to fill out their schedules this year. At last count, we have 76 FBS teams that have the requisite number of wins and 40 bowl games (not counting the national championship). There has been some discussion of inviting a few 5-7 teams to a bowl. I respectfully disagree. I believe that the bowls should invite some of the 7-win FCS teams that did not make the playoffs to a bowl. These teams are:

Northern Arizona (Big Sky)
North Dakota (Big Sky)
Towson (CAA)
Dartmouth (Ivy)
Harvard (Ivy)
Penn (Ivy)
NC Central (MEAC)*
Bethune-Cookman (MEAC)*
North Carolina A&T (MEAC)*
South Carolina State (MEAC)
Tennessee-Martin (OVC)
San Diego (Pioneer)
Jacksonville (Pioneer)
Morehead State (Pioneer)
Western Carolina (Southern)
Central Arkansas (Southland)
Alcorn State (SWAC)*
Grambling State (SWAC)*
Prairie View A&M (SWAC)

*potential conference representative at the Celebration Bowl

My reasoning behind it is would give the teams selected a taste of the postseason. What do you think? I think it would also be a chance of a lifetime to play in a bowl game.

Nope. FBS will never let it happen. One big reason. Name a FCS team who has wins over at least 5 FBS teams on their schedule. If they did they would be in the FCS playoffs. A 5-7 SEC team would win the FCS national championship. If any FCS team played say the schedule of Missouri they would have 2-3 wins max.

[veinup]

bowl games are ridiculous at this point, who cares

edit: i mean, the answer is obviously no. but **** bowl games, who cares. FBS needs to expand the playoffs.

[Bisonoline]

If you couldnt make the playoffs why would the FBS invite you to one of their bowl games? :D

[eiu1999]

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

They need to eliminate bowls altogether but I know $$$ talks.

It should only be playoffs.

[Catsfan90]

Portland state is closer to FBS bowl Eligibility than a lot of FBS teams.

[Rollbird5]

They should have the winless teams like Kansas go to one of the bowls against another winless team so one of them can get a win for the year, nobody would go to it or watch but at least one of the teams gets rid of that 0!

[UNIFanSince1983]

They should have the winless teams like Kansas go to one of the bowls against another winless team so one of them can get a win for the year, nobody would go to it or watch but at least one of the teams gets rid of that 0!

I am actually really on board with this idea. We need a 4 team playoff for worst team. UCF, Kansas, North Texas, ULM. So they are matched up and the losers meet in the final game with the loser of that game being crowned Bottom 10 champion.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I am actually really on board with this idea. We need a 4 team playoff for worst team. UCF, Kansas, North Texas, ULM. So they are matched up and the losers meet in the final game with the loser of that game being crowned Bottom 10 champion.

Loser gets relegated to FCS, to be replaced by FCSNCG champ

[ST_Lawson]

Loser gets relegated to FCS, to be replaced by FCSNCG champ

English Football (soccer) League setup then?

Ok, but MVFC gets dibs on the directional Michigans.