South Dakota State @ Western Illinois

[Jacks02]

Figured this deserves its own thread.

SDSU is attempting to lock up its first ever Top 8 seed, while WIU is trying to finish with a winning record and give itself an outside shot at a playoff birth.

Forecast is getting iffier by the day, and Macomb is now on the edge of a potentially significant snowstorm.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21850&stc=1

SDSU has won the last 7 in the series, here are the game notes (http://www.gojacks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPID=7153&DB_OEM_ID=15000&ATCLID=210512699) from SDSU.

SDSU has a long history of success in bad weather, including last year's 59-24 drubbing of WIU in the snow in Brookings. I expect the streak to continue with a 34-14 victory for the Jacks in the snow.

[Bisonator]

SDSU is relying on the passing game too much this year though so if you guys don't get the run game going it could be interesting.

[REALBird]

SDSU is relying on the passing game too much this year though so if you guys don't get the run game going it could be interesting.

A dry field would have me give the edge to SDSU and their mobile QB. But in a slush fest without the ability to throw the ball. This one is decided between the tackles. SDSU's mobile QB vs. WIU's beefy RB. I'm thinking that WIU could fall forward for 2-3 yards a carry and get first downs all day.

[Jacks02]

SDSU is relying on the passing game too much this year though so if you guys don't get the run game going it could be interesting.

I'll contend that it can be easier to pass in the snow than run in the snow. Harder to defend Wieneke when you don't have any footing.

[CappinHard]

If the hourly weather predictions are correct (lord knows they rarely are), the chance of snow drop to zilch tomorrow at 1 p.m., which is game time. So the field might be covered in snow, but it likely won't be snowing during the game. Still going to be at or below 30, with winds from 15-20 mph. I don't see WIU keeping this one close. Here are the scores from the past 7 years:

2007: 29-26 WIU 4 OT thriller
2008: 24-22 SDSU
2009: 27-7 SDSU
2010: 33-29 SDSU
2011: 27-7 SDSU
2012: 31-10 SDSU
2013: 38-14 SDSU
2014: 59-24 SDSU

Jacks have had their number for the past 7 years, leading to easy wins the last 4 years, I don't see that changing this year.

My prediction: Jacks win 34-10.

[CappinHard]

A dry field would have me give the edge to SDSU and their mobile QB. But in a slush fest without the ability to throw the ball. This one is decided between the tackles. SDSU's mobile QB vs. WIU's beefy RB. I'm thinking that WIU could fall forward for 2-3 yards a carry and get first downs all day.

By my calculations, 2-3 yards a carry will definitely not give you first downs all day. Unless you plan on going for it on 4th down every time. xsmiley_wix

Seriously though, see SDSU's game last year for how a snowy cold game between these two teams plays out. We were able to throw all we wanted. Sumner threw for 366 yds and a career high 6 TDs.

[wretched]

I think WIU keeps it close but SDSU wins 20-17.

[Bisonator]

I'll contend that it can be easier to pass in the snow than run in the snow. Harder to defend Wieneke when you don't have any footing.

Not so much the snow but the wind could be an issue for the passing game.

[IBleedYellow]

The last time I watched SDSU play in snow they completely destroyed an EIU team.

If it's a Snow game, Bunnies win.

EDIT: However, they did have Zenner for that game.

[UNIFanSince1983]

If the hourly weather predictions are correct (lord knows they rarely are), the chance of snow drop to zilch tomorrow at 1 p.m., which is game time. So the field might be covered in snow, but it likely won't be snowing during the game. Still going to be at or below 30, with winds from 15-20 mph. I don't see WIU keeping this one close. Here are the scores from the past 7 years:

2007: 29-26 WIU 4 OT thriller
2008: 24-22 SDSU
2009: 27-7 SDSU
2010: 33-29 SDSU
2011: 27-7 SDSU
2012: 31-10 SDSU
2013: 38-14 SDSU
2014: 59-24 SDSU

Jacks have had their number for the past 7 years, leading to easy wins the last 4 years, I don't see that changing this year.

My prediction: Jacks win 34-10.

This WIU team is different from the ones in the past they are better. I haven't seen our fronts on both offense and defense get manhandled like they did against WIU.

I mean just look at the previous scores of NDSU vs USD: 54-0, 42-0, 47-7, and then what happened this year. I wouldn't say you will 'dominate' them just because of previous scores.

That being said I would probably still pick SDSU to win. WIU just hasn't looked the same since they beat us, and without Norvell who knows if they can pull this off.

[ST_Lawson]

Not so much the snow but the wind could be an issue for the passing game.

Current forecast says 20+ mph wind for at least the first 2 hours of the game.

[Professor Chaos]

This WIU team is different from the ones in the past they are better. I haven't seen our fronts on both offense and defense get manhandled like they did against WIU.

I mean just look at the previous scores of NDSU vs USD: 54-0, 42-0, 47-7, and then what happened this year. I wouldn't say you will 'dominate' them just because of previous scores.

That being said I would probably still pick SDSU to win. WIU just hasn't looked the same since they beat us, and without Norvell who knows if they can pull this off.
It was definitely a different WIU team in the trenches that showed up in Fargo than the one you saw in Cedar Falls. NDSU's O and D-lines did the manhandling that day. WIU actually did very well the year before against NDSU so I'm inclined to think that was just a bad day for them (coupled with a good day for the Bison). So the question is will the good WIU or the bad WIU show up in the trenches tomorrow?

[X-Factor]

If the hourly weather predictions are correct (lord knows they rarely are), the chance of snow drop to zilch tomorrow at 1 p.m., which is game time. So the field might be covered in snow, but it likely won't be snowing during the game. Still going to be at or below 30, with winds from 15-20 mph. I don't see WIU keeping this one close. Here are the scores from the past 7 years:

2007: 29-26 WIU 4 OT thriller
2008: 24-22 SDSU
2009: 27-7 SDSU
2010: 33-29 SDSU
2011: 27-7 SDSU
2012: 31-10 SDSU
2013: 38-14 SDSU
2014: 59-24 SDSU

Jacks have had their number for the past 7 years, leading to easy wins the last 4 years, I don't see that changing this year.

My prediction: Jacks win 34-10.
NDSU had a substantially more one sided series versus USD and look how that turned out for us this year.

[Bisonator]

It was definitely a different WIU team that showed up in Fargo than the one you saw in Cedar Falls. NDSU's O and D-lines did the manhandling that day. WIU actually did very well the year before against NDSU so I'm inclined to think that was just a bad day for them (coupled with a good day for the Bison). So the question is will the good WIU or the bad WIU show up in the trenches tomorrow?

You could pose this same question about nearly every FCS team this season. SDSU has had the same issues as has NDSU!xrotatehx

[BisonFan02]

SDSU is playing for a bye....if they were to lose....hello first round play in game with the winner headed to Fargo...might even draw UND if they beat Cal Poly.

[CappinHard]

SDSU is playing for a bye

I believe this will be the motivation that drives SDSU this weekend. We have never had a seed before, we crave it badly.

[CappinHard]

NDSU had a substantially more one sided series versus USD and look how that turned out for us this year.

If WIU catches lightning in a bottle like USD did this year, then yes, WIU will win. Impossible to predict something like that though.

[BisonFan02]

I believe this will be the motivation that drives SDSU this weekend. We have never had a seed before, we crave it badly.

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/scrapbook/453108/cp_pic6.jpg

[Thundar]

wiu wins

[Professor Chaos]

The only way I think SDSU loses is if they have a let down and I just don't see that with what's at stake.

Then again I'm going to be rooting for the Jacks because I want to see some new blood in the Fargodome in the playoffs this year.

[CappinHard]

http://www.codeproject.com/KB/scrapbook/453108/cp_pic6.jpg

But, It's got electrolytes... lol, good movie.

[BisonFan02]

But, It's got electrolytes... lol, good movie.

Its also what you REALLY crave..... xlolx

[ST_Lawson]

SDSU having a hard time getting "on the road". 4" of snow reported at the Sioux Falls airport, with areas of 8-9" in other parts of Sioux Falls.

As of about an hour ago, SF area sportswriter Matt Zimmer tweeted: "So now, after two hours, they're letting USF off its plane. USD downstairs waiting to check in. SDSU stuck at their gate. Long day ahead." (https://twitter.com/argusmattz/status/667760162896150529)

According to current forecasts, supposed to keep snowing for another couple of hours at least.

EDIT:

Here's the current weather map (http://i.imgur.com/zEE8mGm.gif). They're supposed to be flying from Sioux Falls to Peoria (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8653/history/20151120/1700Z/KFSD/KPIA) (pretty sure that's their flight), so you can see how there might be some issues.

[Bisonator]

And people say Fargo's weather sucks. xlolx

[UNIFanSince1983]

This same storm is moving through CF right now. Going to make it difficult for me to get back for the basketball vs North Carolina and football vs SIU tomorrow.

[Jacks02]

SDSU having a hard time getting "on the road". 4" of snow reported at the Sioux Falls airport, with areas of 8-9" in other parts of Sioux Falls.

As of about an hour ago, SF area sportswriter Matt Zimmer tweeted: "So now, after two hours, they're letting USF off its plane. USD downstairs waiting to check in. SDSU stuck at their gate. Long day ahead." (https://twitter.com/argusmattz/status/667760162896150529)

According to current forecasts, supposed to keep snowing for another couple of hours at least.

EDIT:

Here's the current weather map (http://i.imgur.com/zEE8mGm.gif). They're supposed to be flying from Sioux Falls to Peoria (https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX8653/history/20151120/1700Z/KFSD/KPIA) (pretty sure that's their flight), so you can see how there might be some issues.

About as heavy of snow as I've seen, must have close to 12" at my place in Sioux Falls. It's a bit lighter on the north side where the airport is located, but still probably heavy enough that it will be some time before they can get going. Hopefully the Jacks can make it out of town safely.

[Jacks02]

Here is a pic of the USF football team getting off the plane after sitting for over 2 hours waiting to take off.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21854&stc=1

[ST_Lawson]

About as heavy of snow as I've seen, must have close to 12" at my place in Sioux Falls. It's a bit lighter on the north side where the airport is located, but still probably heavy enough that it will be some time before they can get going. Hopefully the Jacks can make it out of town safely.

Yea, I've been following some of the local news guys on twitter that are traveling with their teams. SDSU (game in Macomb, IL), USD (game in Normal, IL), and University of Sioux Falls (DII playoff game in Arkansas) are apparently all stuck at the SF airport. USF crew was on their plane, but apparently something happened and the plane got pushed/pulled/slid off the runway and they were stuck. They were sitting on the plane for ~4 hours before they finally were able to let them off to get back into the airport.

Stay safe....Hanson Field isn't going anywhere (although I'm not sure what the playoff selection protocol is if a game happens to have to be postponed to Sunday or something).

[Laker]

Yea, I've been following some of the local news guys on twitter that are traveling with their teams. SDSU (game in Macomb, IL), USD (game in Normal, IL), and University of Sioux Falls (DII playoff game in Arkansas) are apparently all stuck at the SF airport. USF crew was on their plane, but apparently something happened and the plane got pushed/pulled/slid off the runway and they were stuck. They were sitting on the plane for ~4 hours before they finally were able to let them off to get back into the airport.

Stay safe....Hanson Field isn't going anywhere (although I'm not sure what the playoff selection protocol is if a game happens to have to be postponed to Sunday or something).

Both USF and Augustana are in our conference. Augie landed in Medfore, OR last night on their way to Humboldt State. The other three teams are stuck in Sioux Falls at my last contact with Matt Witwicki, who is the NSIC blogger.

MSU-Mankato hosts Emporia State at 1 PM tomorrow for a D2 playoff game. I assume that the Hornets are coming up by bus. I haven't heard how their progress is going.

[CappinHard]

Stay safe....Hanson Field isn't going anywhere (although I'm not sure what the playoff selection protocol is if a game happens to have to be postponed to Sunday or something).

True, that would make things very interesting... Anyone know what would happen? Looks like the storm should move out of sioux falls before too long, but then the trouble is it will be hitting Peoria before too long.

[Missingnumber7]

True, that would make things very interesting... Anyone know what would happen? Looks like the storm should move out of sioux falls before too long, but then the trouble is it will be hitting Peoria before too long.

And then the bus ride after you land in Peoria

[BisonTru]

True, that would make things very interesting... Anyone know what would happen? Looks like the storm should move out of sioux falls before too long, but then the trouble is it will be hitting Peoria before too long.

Wow, this could get interesting. Looking at the radar when/if you can get out of Sioux Falls this storm is going to be covering IL. It looks like it's going to be tough to get there tonight.

[PantherRob82]

Here they make it sound like Peoria isn't going to get much snow.

[CappinHard]

Wow, this could get interesting. Looking at the radar when/if you can get out of Sioux Falls this storm is going to be covering IL. It looks like it's going to be tough to get there tonight.

Sounds like it's not going to turn into snow until like 3 or 4 a.m. because it will stay warm enough. They should be fine.

[clenz]

Days like tomorrow and Youll wish you had a dome to play in 70 degree weather

For reference of this storm: the university of Iowa said if the forecast holds it will be the coldest game played in akin nick Stadium history. It will likely be the snowiest as well

Kinnick opened in1929 for reference

[Thumper 76]

Cause we have never had a cold snowy game in Brookings. Sure a dome is comfy, but give me outdoors any time. Frozen tundra baby. Maybe being from Northern Wisconsin has something to do with my feelings on that.

[ST_Lawson]

Days like tomorrow and Youll wish you had a dome to play in 70 degree weather

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll be fine. I've played a trombone in 20 degrees at playoff games and I run outside as long as it's above 0. I know how to layer up when I need to.

[BisonTru]

Did the SDs teams get in the air yet?

[ST_Lawson]

Did the SDs teams get in the air yet?

I just posted some info over at the main MVFC thread: http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?169899-MVFC-2015-Edition&p=2289208&viewfull=1#post2289208

[Sycamore62]

Id rather play on the road in a dome than at home in the cold.

[clenz]

Id rather play on the road in a dome than at home in the cold.
Yup

Macho "football should be played outside" bravado aside there is no question the dome is vastly superior to watch a game in on days like tomorrow

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[Sycamore62]

The last game I played, it started snowing at the end of practice in terre haute and continued till we got to Cedar Falls. There was a foot of snow on the ground and none on the field.

If football weather was freezing ass cold in the rain, they would start it in November

[Bisonoline]

The last game I played, it started snowing at the end of practice in terre haute and continued till we got to Cedar Falls. There was a foot of snow on the ground and none on the field.

If football weather was freezing ass cold in the rain, they would start it in November


LOL xthumbsupxxbowx. Great quote. Just to let you know I will be using it in the future. xnodx

[Thumper 76]

If football weather was freezing ass cold in the rain, they would start it in November

Well to be fair one of the games most famous games ever played is called the Ice Bowl, and one of if not the most famous field is called the frozen tundra. And if it wasn't meant to be played in the cold and elements, it probably wouldn't end in January. Just my $.02

[Thumper 76]

I should add that it's not easy to watch in the cold and wind, but some of the most fun games I have played in and watched were pretty ruggedly cold with snow and wind, or rain and mud.

[UNIFanSince1983]

At least in a game in a dome you get to find out who the better team actually is.

[clenz]

Well to be fair one of the games most famous games ever played is called the Ice Bowl, and one of if not the most famous field is called the frozen tundra. And if it wasn't meant to be played in the cold and elements, it probably wouldn't end in January. Just my $.02

It didn't always end in Jan.

It's why the Super Bowl, bigger Bowl games, and the title game is played either in doors or locations it's not supposed to be snowy and cold

[clenz]

Time lapse from 630 last night until 8 this morning

https://vimeo.com/146488847

I would bet we only got 6 inches or so

[Sycamore62]

I attribute our lack of late season attendance more to weather than performance. Id take a small dome any day. I didnt like playing on grass either unless its early in the season at an SEC school. Otherwise the footing always made me nervous of an injury. Ironic since the turf i played on was the carpet style and higher injury rates.

[ST_Lawson]

I attribute our lack of late season attendance more to weather than performance. Id take a small dome any day. I didnt like playing on grass either unless its early in the season at an SEC school. Otherwise the footing always made me nervous of an injury. Ironic since the turf i played on was the carpet style and higher injury rates.

This is true. We'd probably not drop off quite as badly on attendance late in the season if people were indoors for it. Like, I'm fully expecting that at today's game there'll be the teams, parents of the players, the band, myself, and maybe 100 other hardcore fans. Although part of that is because the majority of our students are back home ~3 hours away by now.

[Sycamore62]

Its snowing in charleston. Not sticking. Not sure what to expect in terre haute except to watch a game with parents and die hards

[ST_Lawson]

Its snowing in charleston. Not sticking. Not sure what to expect in terre haute except to watch a game with parents and die hards

View out my back window (https://i.imgur.com/yw3OObg.jpg) (roughly 3/4 of a mile from Hanson Field). It's sticking, but it's not very deep yet. Only supposed to get a total of ~1 inch and we're probably around half that right now. You can still see grass sticking up. It's pretty wet snow though and it's right about freezing right now, so some of it is probably still melting when it hits the ground.

Hanson Field should be pretty much fine, but it won't be fun after the game, when the temperature is headed down and the slush starts freezing on the road. Winds are ~25 MPH with gusts above 35.

EDIT:
Matt Zimmerman, the sports writer with SDSU, just posted this to twitter: https://twitter.com/argusmattz/status/668082774373441536

[Sycamore62]

View out my back window (https://i.imgur.com/yw3OObg.jpg) (roughly 3/4 of a mile from Hanson Field). It's sticking, but it's not very deep yet. Only supposed to get a total of ~1 inch and we're probably around half that right now. You can still see grass sticking up. It's pretty wet snow though and it's right about freezing right now, so some of it is probably still melting when it hits the ground.

Hanson Field should be pretty much fine, but it won't be fun after the game, when the temperature is headed down and the slush starts freezing on the road. Winds are ~25 MPH with gusts above 35.

EDIT:
Matt Zimmerman, the sports writer with SDSU, just posted this to twitter: https://twitter.com/argusmattz/status/668082774373441536

It is now sticking. I'm hoping the roads don't look like that picture on my drive. I hate having to gameplan my game watching comfort strategy. Most of the time it's just who will watch my 6&3 yr olds.

[Evolution Prime]

Picture of the field
https://twitter.com/EvolutionPrime/status/668094202132107264

[waverly_panther]

The stands will look very close to that at kickoff.

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[Kemo]

Picture of the field
https://twitter.com/EvolutionPrime/status/668094202132107264

I have a feeling the crowd in Macomb is going to deafening.

[ST_Lawson]

I have a feeling the crowd in Macomb is going to deafening.

The silence might be. If you're watching on ESPN3, you'll probably be able to hear the individual people yelling from the stands.

My prediction, 1,200 reported....probably will feel like half that.

[PantherRob82]

The silence might be. If you're watching on ESPN3, you'll probably be able to hear the individual people yelling from the stands.

Yell stuff about AGS then.....

"No cops!"

[ST_Lawson]

Yell stuff about AGS then.....

"No cops!"

"Where's the Abiline Christian Ballgirl!"
"Hi Clenz!"

stuff like that?

[Sycamore62]

I may do that at ISUb. I'll make pelini jokes during the officials calls.

[ST_Lawson]

I may do that at ISUb. I'll make pelini jokes during the officials calls.

"At least you didn't go 9 and 4!"
"Where's your cat?"

[PantherRob82]

Now I definitely want to watch your games. xlolx

[goyotes]

Start time to be delayed to an as of yet undetermined time. http://goleathernecks.com/news/2015/11/21/FB_1121151811.aspx?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[PantherRob82]

Start time to be delayed to an as of yet undetermined time. http://goleathernecks.com/news/2015/11/21/FB_1121151811.aspx?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Thanks for the update. I got stuck working today even though we won't have any customers. Enjoying getting paid to watch football. :)

[goyotes]

Thanks for the update. I got stuck working today even though we won't have any customers. Enjoying getting paid to watch football. :)

Sounds like a good day for ESPN3

[ST_Lawson]

Yea, SDSU football team was stuck behind an accident between Peoria and Macomb. They're supposedly moving now. I've heard that ~2:30 PM is likely start time at this point (barring any more scenes from "Planes, Trains & Automobiles").

[PantherRob82]

Sounds like a good day for ESPN3

Currently watching WM-Rich.

At noon I'll switch to the MVFC games.

[Theee Catrabbit]

This has been a terrible trip for the Jacks so far and worthy of a Holiday movie......hope they didn't leave anyone behind.....

[ST_Lawson]

2:30 PM kickoff is official now

[Thumper 76]

Yea, SDSU football team was stuck behind an accident between Peoria and Macomb. They're supposedly moving now. I've heard that ~2:30 PM is likely start time at this point (barring any more scenes from "Planes, Trains & Automobiles").

Add to it that according to the radio, half their luggage ended up where USD went to.

[PantherRob82]

Add to it that according to the radio, half their luggage ended up where USD went to.

Go figure

[ST_Lawson]

Make that 2:35 PM official start time.
Field is cleared off and teams are getting some warmups in: https://twitter.com/argusmattz/status/668145400340193281

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUW6s5EXIAAySNN.jpg

[Sycamore62]

Pelini got another UC

[wretched]

WIU fans, wondering your perspective of the job Bob Nielson has done at WIU? I was a fan of his UMD teams so just wondering your perspective of how he is doing after 3 years at WIU?

[dewey]

17-10 WIU leads with 810 to go and has the ball 3rd and 10 at the SDSU 16.

Come on Leathernecks!

Dewey

[centennial]

17-10 WIU leads with 810 to go and has the ball 3rd and 10 at the SDSU 16.

Come on Leathernecks!

Dewey

I would rather play someone other than SDSU.

[Twentysix]

I would rather play someone other than SDSU.

No kidding. Go jacks.

[dewey]

Touchdown Jacks! 17 all with 135 to go in the 4th quarter.

Dewey

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Looks like OT.

[PantherRob82]

WIU scores easy in OT. 24-17

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

24 to 17 Leathernecks SDSU is taking their turn.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

SDSU ties it up.

[LeeshaJo]

SDSU touchdown!
2ND ot coming

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[IBleedYellow]

Seriously Rabbits...don't blow this crap.

[PantherRob82]

Wow...missed

[Schism55]

The lady leatherneck you hear screaming incessantly is entertaining my stoned ass thoroughly

[BisoNick]

Wow...CHOOOOOOKE job....


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[PantherRob82]

Any points win the game for WIU

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

OUCH. Missed FG. For SDSU. Now Leathernecks turn.

[IBleedYellow]

Welcome back to the Fargodome for another second round playoff meeting, Rabbits.

[Schism55]

Interesting development...No chance sdsu is not in the Bison draw?

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Pass interference SDSU

[X-Factor]

If WIU catches lightning in a bottle like USD did this year, then yes, WIU will win. Impossible to predict something like that though.
So, lightning in a bottle? Jacks fans seem to be kings at the transitive properties of football. Welcome to a second round exit at the FFD. ;)

[dwtime]

Goodbye top 4 seed

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

It is over Leathernecks win.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

So is that a BAD loss or a good loss SDSU fans?

[IBleedYellow]

Interesting development...No chance sdsu is not in the Bison draw?

They have to be now, I'd assume.

Stupid Rabbits, can't ever help NDSU see new teams.

[No_Skill]

Looks like losing to NDSU in the playoffs is their destiny.

[Schism55]

So is that a BAD loss or a good loss SDSU fans?

Well played sir.
/golf clap

[IBleedYellow]

Rabbits.

I am disappoint.

[JSUBison]

They have to be now, I'd assume.

Stupid Rabbits, can't ever help NDSU see new teams.

Devils Advocate here, with W&M losing and this being a OT loss for SDSU on the road, maybe they can still nab the 8 seed?

[Bisonwinagn]

They could still be an 8 seed we will have to see.

[X-Factor]

So is that a BAD loss or a good loss SDSU fans?
curious to know....

[IBleedYellow]

Devils Advocate here, with W&M losing and this being a OT loss for SDSU on the road, maybe they can still nab the 8 seed?

Playoff committee likes to see teams trending upward.

SDSU beat USD by 7 and lost to WIU in OT.

That's not trending up.

[Thumper 76]

So is that a BAD loss or a good loss SDSU fans?

Bad loss.

[mmiller_34]

WIU is a good team. But, if we were truly the #5 team in the nation it's a win we should have had.

[leatherneck177]

So, does western get in as third place team in MVFC?

Or do they need a UNI loss?

[BisonFan02]

SDSU.......you had ONE job.......

[Twentysix]

So, does western get in as third place team in MVFC?

Or do they need a UNI loss?

I think UNI will be the third place team though.

I can't believe we beat WIU 59-7... What the heck explains the difference?

[leatherneck177]

I think UNI will be the third place team though.

I can't believe we beat WIU 59-7... What the heck explains the difference?

even if UNI wins, western won the head to head and has tiebreakers over both UNI and Sdsu.

[Twentysix]

even if UNI wins, western won the head to head and has tiebreakers over both UNI and Sdsu.

Ah! It's harder to keep track of that stuff now that ESPN has dumped all of the FCS schedules.

[IBleedYellow]

WIU is a good team. But, if we were truly the #5 team in the nation it's a win we should have had.

You should have beaten USD and WIU by a combined 80 or more points.

Sort of like NDSU should have as well.

[CappinHard]

So, lightning in a bottle? Jacks fans seem to be kings at the transitive properties of football. Welcome to a second round exit at the FFD. ;)

Ha, I'll take a big serving of crow, please. Idk how many watched the whole game, but we had a 1st and goal on the 2 yard line, about to go up 17-3 in the 3rd quarter. Then we ran a stupid wildcat play, fumbled the ball, and the game completely changed.

[X-Factor]

WIU has a heck of resume. I say they are in. Maybe even a lock with a UNI loss.

[IBleedYellow]

WIU has a heck of resume. I say they are in. Maybe even a lock with a UNI loss.

Probably the best 6 win team in the country...but I don't see them getting in.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

So SDSU drops to 5th in the conference. If UNI wins.

[clenz]

zero chance a 5th place conference team gets a seed, especially when they lost to 3 of the 4 in front of them

[Twentysix]

So SDSU drops to 5th in the conference. If UNI wins.

Yeah.

1. 1. NDSU 9-2
2. 1b. ISUR 9-2
3. 3. WIU 6-5
4. 3b. UNI 7-4
5. 3c. SDSU 8-3

Assuming UNI victory.

[X-Factor]

I would say 5 MVFC teams absolutely deserve a playoff spot no question at all. Will that happen? Questionable....

[Bisonwinagn]

Yeah.

1. 1. NDSU 9-2
2. 1b. ISUR 9-2
3. 3. WIU 6-5
4. 3b. UNI 7-4
5. 3c. SDSU 8-3

Assuming UNI victory.

That's not conference games so meaningless.

[Bisonwinagn]

Ha, I'll take a big serving of crow, please. Idk how many watched the whole game, but we had a 1st and goal on the 2 yard line, about to go up 17-3 in the 3rd quarter. Then we ran a stupid wildcat play, fumbled the ball, and the game completely changed.

I was going to ask why the coaches are stupid enough to run wildcat when they have a good running QB? It seems really idiotic to me.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

I would say 5 MVFC teams absolutely deserve a playoff spot no question at all. Will that happen? Questionable....
The Leathernecks should get in before Und.

[X-Factor]

The Leathernecks should get in before Und.
Yet it seems the formula to a playoff bid (and subsequent first round exit) is an easy slate of wins. Here is to hoping the playoff committee understands SOS like the FBS does.

[centennial]

Yet it seems the formula to a playoff bid (and subsequent first round exit) is an easy slate of wins. Here is to hoping the playoff committee understands SOS like the FBS does.
They don't at all.

[clenz]

That's not conference games so meaningless.

It's based on conference record and tie break though

It's why WIU is listed a head of UNI and SDSU

[FargoBison]

Rabbits you had it all wrapped up...now you will get a trip to Missoula or Fargo.

[centennial]

Rabbits you had it all wrapped up...now you will get a trip to Missoula or Fargo.

Montana isn't going to be ranked.

[Thumper 76]

Montana isn't going to be ranked.

They will outbid us, however.

[FargoBison]

Montana isn't going to be ranked.

They will be in the playoffs and will host a first round game. SDSU is likely the team unless UND wins...that could throw a wrinkle into the mix with those two playing to go to Fargo.

[mmiller_34]

SDSU is likely going to Montana.

[leatherneck177]

They will be in the playoffs and will host a first round game. SDSU is likely the team unless UND wins...that could throw a wrinkle into the mix with those two playing to go to Fargo.

my guess is WIU goes out west to Montana and yes I think the necks get in. Some breaks have gone or are going their way today. I think final two spots come down to EIU, WIU, UND and WCU. Of course it is biased.

[BisonTru]

my guess is WIU goes out west to Montana and yes I think the necks get in. Some breaks have gone or are going their way today. I think final two spots come down to EIU, WIU, UND and WCU. Of course it is biased.

I think you have a shot, I wouldn't get your hopes too high, though. I also think EIU is in. They could pair you two up and send it through Normal. I know you met OOC, but there is nothing in the rules that says they can't match you guys up again.

[leatherneck177]

I think you have a shot, I wouldn't get your hopes too high, though. I also think EIU is in. They could pair you two up and send it through Normal. I know you met OOC, but there is nothing in the rules that says they can't match you guys up again.

Im not too high, just my opinion. Really can't argue but when you look at some of the 7-4 teams like Towson, NAU, EIU etc they are really weak wins. Can't blame EIU, they did go 7-1 in conference, but Western pummeled them.

But yes, should WIU and EIU get in, I think they play at Eastern.

[Sycamore62]

Im not too high, just my opinion. Really can't argue but when you look at some of the 7-4 teams like Towson, NAU, EIU etc they are really weak wins. Can't blame EIU, they did go 7-1 in conference, but Western pummeled them.

But yes, should WIU and EIU get in, I think they play at Eastern.

I'll drive across town to watch that. Full Sycamore gear of course

[ST_Lawson]

Should Western get in...I think so.
Will Western get in...I doubt it.

We couldn't get anything moving late in the game against Youngstown State. We play that game like we played against EIU, UNI, SDSU, or USD and we toast the Penguins. We just couldn't get it done and I think we'll be outside looking in to the bubble tomorrow morning. I'll be very pleasantly surprised if we do make it in, but I think it's still a long shot.

I think the committee is going to look more at the 6-5 rather than the 5-3 in the conference, tied with UNI and SDSU, holding tiebreakers over both.
Toughest schedule in the FCS?....doesn't matter...we didn't win 7. Suck it up and lets do better next year.

[FargoBison]

I don't like WIU's chances at all..6-5 is 6-5 unfortunately. The committee has enough seven DI win teams and they've never shown a 6-5 MVFC team any love.

[leatherneck177]

Should Western get in...I think so.
Will Western get in...I doubt it.

We couldn't get anything moving late in the game against Youngstown State. We play that game like we played against EIU, UNI, SDSU, or USD and we toast the Penguins. We just couldn't get it done and I think we'll be outside looking in to the bubble tomorrow morning. I'll be very pleasantly surprised if we do make it in, but I think it's still a long shot.

I think the committee is going to look more at the 6-5 rather than the 5-3 in the conference, tied with UNI and SDSU, holding tiebreakers over both.
Toughest schedule in the FCS?....doesn't matter...we didn't win 7. Suck it up and lets do better next year.

ill agree in part, it is the ultimate test for the committee in regards to a 6-5 team. Top 3 SOS, 3 wins against likely playoff teams, third place in MVFC, solid resume.

but yeah YSU loss hurts.

[ST_Lawson]

ill agree in part, it is the ultimate test for the committee in regards to a 6-5 team. Top 3 SOS, 3 wins against likely playoff teams, third place in MVFC, solid resume.

but yeah YSU loss hurts.

That's true. I think if they're ever going to allow in a 6-5 team to the playoffs...this would be the one to set the precedent. It's never happened before, but we've never had a 24-team playoff with this many at-large spots before (now that the MEAC is doing their own thing).

[PantherRob82]

I think WIUs biggest issue is that they started hot and cooled off. Get the doors blown off in Fargo didn't help.

[Professor Chaos]

WIU needs to be big Cal Poly fans right now. If UND loses the Leathernecks have a real shot IMO.

[ST_Lawson]

WIU needs to be big Cal Poly fans right now. If UND loses the Leathernecks have a real shot IMO.

Down 21-0 early in the 2nd....aw come on.