Mizzou Football Players on Strike

[bonarae]

... for non-football-related reasons, supporting a graduate student's hunger strike related to their president's non-reaction against racial prejudice, until either the student passes on or the president resigns.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2587163-black-missouri-football-players-boycotting-until-school-president-resigns?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football

(http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2587163-black-missouri-football-players-boycotting-until-school-president-resigns?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football)http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000574775/article/missouri-football-players-go-on-strike-want-school-president-out

[walliver]

Fortunately, it's just Missouri.

If this stuff spreads to important teams, it may undermine the integrity of the sport. When playoff spots and championships are affected by "strikes", there will be little legitimacy t these achievements.

Any further comment belongs on the political board.

[JayJ79]

I don't mind stealing bread
From the mouths of decadents
But I can't feed on the powerless
When my cup's already overfilled

[ngineer]

Hit 'em in the pocketbook. Would have cost Mizzou $1 million if the game were cancelled.

[walliver]

Hit 'em in the pocketbook. Would have cost Mizzou $1 million if the game were cancelled.

The real cost wouldn't be $1 million.

Missouri would pay $1,000,000 to BYU.
Missouri would lose all ticket revenue from the game, easily $3-5 Million more.
Missouri would lose concession revenues.
Missouri would have great difficulty with OOC scheduling for years to come.

And, if Missouri cancelled an SEC game, there would be hell to pay.

In the end, it was cheaper to pay the president a few million to leave in order to settle the strike.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Did you catch any of the video of the instructors directing the protest? It seems the President, who was hired to cut costs, did away with some benefits in August, and the instructors have been after his ass ever since...

Also, it's interesting to see a Mass Comm instructor calling for "Muscle" to come have a student reporter removed from an area because he was taking pictures. He points out that the First Amendment covers their rights to protest and his rights to document it...

The protestors aren't having it. "Forget about laws," one says. "What about humanity?"

Lots of epic fail about the notion of personal space. Photographer is simply taking photos, when the SJW's encroach on his physical space and then demand that he step back to respect their physical space.

Holy Pretzelian Logic and Intellectual fail, Batman. All in all, it's the usual leftist double standard and hypocrisy....

[Panther88]

The real cost wouldn't be $1 million.

Missouri would pay $1,000,000 to BYU.
Missouri would lose all ticket revenue from the game, easily $3-5 Million more.
Missouri would lose concession revenues.
Missouri would have great difficulty with OOC scheduling for years to come.

And, if Missouri cancelled an SEC game, there would be hell to pay.

In the end, it was cheaper to pay the president a few million to leave in order to settle the strike.

I seriously don't understand how mizzou would've lost revenue when in fact it had other student-athletes of non-color on its squad. 80 scholarships. Of which there were > 36 (I think) black student-athletes on football scholarship.

This was the tipping point, imho.


November 8 -- Black football players announce they won't practice or play until Wolfe is removed. The Athletic Department, Coach Gary Pinkel and many white players quickly announce their support for the protest.


If 100% of the black football players @ your alma mater decided to say "screw this" and simply walk off/not play, could your team continue to field a team? me-> :evil grin: :D I did my part as a HS senior by turning down 100% of all former I-A and I-AA scholarship offers as a blue-chip athlete. lol I saw the bigger picture. :)

[JayJ79]

and now supposedly black students at Mizzou are receiving death threats and getting bricks thrown through dorm windows. (at least according to social media).

there are some really disgusting white people in this country

[Laker]

Man who threatened to shoot blacks at Mizzou arrested. He was not a student there.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/11/us-missouri-boycott-protests-idUSKCN0T01MI20151111

[Panther88]

and now supposedly black students at Mizzou are receiving death threats and getting bricks thrown through dorm windows. (at least according to social media).

there are some really disgusting white people in this country

I'm trying to keep a straight face but.... why would one even entertain attempting to coexist w/ another, who is hostile, in their hostile environment?

smh Common sense was waaaaaaaaaaay out the door. Mizzou recruited the RIGHT black football players as other universities do as well ;) lol. smh



Police said Park's threats had circulated on social media, including Yik Yak, where an anonymous post tagged 'Columbia' late on Tuesday read, "I'm going to stand my ground tomorrow and shoot every black person I see."
"Some of you are alright. Don't go to campus tomorrow," another post read. “We’re waiting for you at the parking lots,” read a third post. “We will kill you.”


Doesn't sound hostile to me. LOL :D xlolx

[FormerPokeCenter]

How do you feel about the black protestors on campus establishing black only areas and asking the "white allies" to leave?

[citdog]

How do you feel about the black protestors on campus establishing black only areas and asking the "white allies" to leave?

I think the National Guard should be federalized and issued live ammunition ordered to fix bayonets and integrate the campus. There is, after all, precedent for them to do so.

[Catatonic]

I think the National Guard should be federalized and issued live ammunition ordered to fix bayonets and integrate the campus. There is, after all, precedent for them to do so.

And they say you have no sense of humor. One of the wittiest comments I have seen on AGS. Well done. :D

[Catatonic]

So, as this thing rolls along.....two very interesting developments. First, the protestors violate the first amendment rights of student journalists by trying to prevent them from taking pictures in their self declared headquarters, located squarely in the middle of a quad on public property.

Now, there's this even more critical analysis of the movement.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/is-the-entire-mizzou-protest-based-on-lies-111115y
After examining the facts, "it's hard to come to any conclusion other than this one: this entire University of Missouri protest is a manufactured sham. "

[FormerPokeCenter]

The story's from Fox, so it's automatically going to be ignored.

I haven't read it, nor do I plan to, but I think you'll find that it mostly stems from the Univeristy President's cost cutting mission. Professors have been calling for his head since some benefits were cut in August.

The oppressed student who went on a hunger strike isn't actually oppressed. He's very wealthy.

I've seen some headlines from other sources claiming that Soros is funding some of the protests, but haven't taken the time to go read any of the articles to see if that's got any foundation or not.

The ground swell, without any underlying specific actions attributable to the President, to me, has all of the marks of an astroturfed controversy...

[Laker]

Rock Chalk Invisible Jayhawk makes demands at Kansas:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article44321865.html

[MR. CHICKEN]

I think the National Guard should be federalized and issued live ammunition ordered to fix bayonets and integrate the campus. There is, after all, precedent for them to do so.


.........."FOUR DEAD....IN.....O-HI-O".................................................. .................................................. .................AWK!

[Catatonic]

The story's from Fox, so it's automatically going to be ignored.

I haven't read it, nor do I plan to, but I think you'll find that it mostly stems from the Univeristy President's cost cutting mission. Professors have been calling for his head since some benefits were cut in August.

The oppressed student who went on a hunger strike isn't actually oppressed. He's very wealthy.

I've seen some headlines from other sources claiming that Soros is funding some of the protests, but haven't taken the time to go read any of the articles to see if that's got any foundation or not.

The ground swell, without any underlying specific actions attributable to the President, to me, has all of the marks of an astroturfed controversy...

Distilled to its essence, the article reviews each of the three alleged instances of overt racism on campus leading up to the hunger strike and player boycott. All were uncorroborated, the allegation of a poop-Swastika that no one can document ever existed. Police were not called to investigate and no photos were taken. Other instances allege a drunk yelled racial slurs at a black student and an off campus incident reported by the black student body president of a group driving by and yelling racial epitaphs at him. The conclusion, if these instances happened, and their is no independent evidence they did, there is no way of proving the perpetrators were students at the University of Missouri.

[walliver]

There are two unrelated issues at play.

First, there is a great deal of manipulation of information by the press - CNN sees downright giddy that this is going on and brings Ferguson into every article. They also leave out details. The student body president tweeted that the KKK was "confirmed" to be on campus, and that he had personally spoken to the National Guard. He has since deleted this outright lie from his twitter feed and blamed it in misinformation. How can a half-way rational person not be aware that he had not spoken to the National Guard. This clown is outright making up lies to stir up actions and reactions. The whole KKK thing makes no sense. The modern Klan, or what is left of it, is nothing more than a bunch of disorganized angry rednecks driving beat-up pickup trucks, and is not a politically important entity anymore. If there were any hint of Klan activity on the campus, CNN would break into all their programming to show it.

The second issue relates to the power of football players on campus. Will it now become routine for players to threaten a "strike" to get just about anything they want. Will any "big time" program stand up to their athletes and risk decimating their programs?

[FormerPokeCenter]

The fact that all of this started over a reduction of benefits, and seems to be rather orchestrated with Mizzou instructors clearly seen organizing and directing the flow of the protest, not unlike battlefield lieutenants, suggests classic union tactics. Add Soros funding into the mix and it's got Astrotruf written all over it...

[Panther88]

How do you feel about the black protestors on campus establishing black only areas and asking the "white allies" to leave?

Establishing "black only" areas.... on campus? LOL Why? Why would they want to go through that stupidity from the onset? Duhhhhhhhhhhhhh for them but it's their choice :D .

I saw this stupidity as a student while @ THE Ohio State University in Columbus. Black Student Union lol, Black Alumni Assoc..., Black that..., blah blah blah. I LITERALLY ROTF and LMAO'd @ the stupidity in motion. As an undergrad, I would not and DID not put myself through any of that foolish misery because I chose to attend Prairie View A&M University, which had OPEN arms and welcomed me in a non-hostile environment. :D @ 17 I was smarter than everyone by turning down those I-A/I-AA football schol offers. I knew PRECISELY what I was doing and what message I was sending, as a coveted tx HS blue-chip "athlete." :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Panther88]

I think the National Guard should be federalized and issued live ammunition ordered to fix bayonets and integrate the campus. There is, after all, precedent for them to do so.

Integrate the campus? In 2015? Why? Why force some to co-exist w/ others when it's highly evident the hostile crew doesn't want them for anything other than to run a funky leather ball or bounce a funky leather ball on a basketball court? :D Those black students @ mizzou and other PWCUs are dumber than hell, imho.

[FormerPokeCenter]

So...it's okay to use skin color as the basis for admittance into exclusive use areas?

[Panther88]

Rock Chalk Invisible Jayhawk makes demands at Kansas:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article44321865.html

Gotttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt dayam!!!!!! :D It's like a virus spreading amongst those black students @ PWCUs :D rotf....lmao!!!!!!!

PWCUs will have to start doing some type of proactive damage control, i.e. hiring a shaka smart, charlie strong, kevin sumlin, et al "black keepers" to help control the black athletes on campus. Afterall, it takes one of their own "kind" lol to handle them since the main handlers cannot relate to them. :D ;)

[Panther88]

So...it's okay to use skin color as the basis for admittance into exclusive use areas?

Never. I never saw that on the campus of Prairie View A&M University. And there's never EVER been such a place on campus since its creation. Most universities cannot make that honest statement. xreadx

[walliver]

In a charged moment, Grant said she had been attacked a week ago — put in a chokehold and called racial and misogynistic slurs, and that two of her friends were held at gunpoint.
http://cjonline.com/news/2015-11-11/frustration-anger-toward-ku-administration-mark-forum-race

That would sure appear to be a "hate crime", I wonder why it wasn't reported to the police?

I guess this strategy was so successful for the UVA/Rolling Stone rape victim that it's worth another shot.

By the way, this is the Chancellor the activists want to fire at Kansas: http://chancellor.ku.edu/

[Panther88]

http://cjonline.com/news/2015-11-11/frustration-anger-toward-ku-administration-mark-forum-race

That would sure appear to be a "hate crime", I wonder why it wasn't reported to the police?

I guess this strategy was so successful for the UVA/Rolling Stone rape victim that it's worth another shot.

By the way, this is the Chancellor the activists want to fire at Kansas: http://chancellor.ku.edu/

Are those dummies still trying to integrate that campus, as a whole? KU has already integrated its football field and basketball court xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx . I'll bet a dime to a dollar if those dumb black athletes grow some nutts and some semblance of a small brain lol, they could push the agenda of the non-athletic scholarshipped blacks on that campus :D .



A group known as Rock Chalk Invisible Hawk also laid out a series of demands for changes on campus, and the leader of the Black Student Union spoke


Sorry. I wouldn't want to attend a university where there was a "Black Student Union." lol xlolx How dumb. smh I'm SURE a lot of your own schools are maintaining such stupidity, aren't they? Or is this a P5/D-I FBS phenomena? Integrate the football field first, basketball court second, t&f third, and then the remainder of campus later. Correct? :D

Lets dialogue.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I think they shot this at Mizzou...


http://www.ijreview.com/2015/11/469710-the-future-of-american-education-in-one-disturbing-video-that-shows-what-is-happening-to-our-kids/?author=kb&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&ut m_campaign=education&utm_term=ijamerica

[Panther88]

It simply defies any semblance of logical, rational, and common sense for any individual to willingly and voluntarily desire to be in the midst of a hostile enemy in its, not their, hostile environment of their own free will. My father did well to choose Prairie View A&M University for undergrad, a non-hostile environment w/ his peers. My mother must've been sniffing glue and Walker county crystal-meth to attend Sam Houston State University. I can ONLY imagine how horribly she was treated by her "peers" in the early 1970s. I can only imagine... Looks like history is not repeating itself because the hostile environment is consistently the hostile environment @ a plethora of campuses.

me-> :D

[FormerPokeCenter]

So....PWC's are "the enemy?"

[Panther88]

So....PWC's are "the enemy?"

If they maintain a HOSTILE environment towards blacks and other minorities, yes, they are indeed the mortal enemy, except for Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays on "game day" when the majority viewing community relaxes their inbred hatred so they can "root" for their team. xlolx Would you not agree?

I love listening to the stories of eldering blacks regading what they went through when attempting to assimilate, not integrate, into PWCUs falling out of the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and even 1990s. It's quite enlightening where some on the other side of the suburbs lol will say "we" xlolx should leave the past where it is and simply forget. How can they forget when they are actually still alive and were severely mistreated by so many and it's still occurring today, this day, November 13, 2015? What are they supposed to do.... love the enemy unconditionally? Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii bullshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

I'll see everyone on gameday. Silence yields consent. xreadx

[FormerPokeCenter]

I went to college in the early 80's and played for a team that was about 70 percent White, 30 percent Black. There were a few Hispanics and one Arabic guy. I think McNeese had its first Black player in the late 60's, possibly early 70's.

I'm not gonna say that everybody was perfectly accomodating, but I don't recall there being any overt oppression going on. I had Black professors and didn't think anything about it.

I will say this, the spring of my freshman year, my roommate quit and moved out of the dorm. One of our defensive tackles, who was black, approached me about moving in, as his roommate was known to smoke a little weed and the DT was a tee-totaller and wanted a way out without having to explain anything to the coaches. We roomed together for two years and the old-timers on the team told me that it was the first time that there had been integrated roommates on the team and that was 1982. Don't know if it's accurate or not, but that was the lore at the time... We roomed together until he graduated two years later, and then I roomed with my closest friend on the team who was a Black tailback, until his shoulder injury cut his career short.

Perhaps it's a different experience for football players than it is for the general student, but I don't recall my roommates ever complaining about racial incidents when we were rooming together.

About the only real "racial incident" I can recall occured right after I finished my eligibility, but didn't involve anybody on campus. My former tailback roommate was dating a chick from U of H who'd been a volleyball player. She and about four other U of H vball players came to Lake Chuck for weekend and a bunch of us went out. I was the only white guy in the group, and there was one white girl in the U of H group, who everybody assumed I'd hook up with, but there was just no way that was gonna happen. She was nice, but not very attractive. However, one of the Black girls in the U of H group was absolutely beautiful. All the other guys in the group were falling all over each other to buy her drinks, etc., and it was almost comical. So, while they were all at the bar trying to buy her a drink, I simply asked her to dance...

We were in the local Country and Western / Dance club south of campus called, oddly enough, "Cowboys" since there really wasnt' any other place to go to dance back then.

I'll admit that there were a LOT stares and outright "mean mugging" going on when we were on the dance floor. White guys dancing with black girls just wasn't something you saw a whole lot of in SW La in the early 80's...But, most of that was directed at me and not her...

I could tell she felt uncomfortable so we ended up leaving, but nobody said anything to us. I got a couple of questions about it the next time I went in there, but most of the questions I got were folks wanting to know who she was, because she was drop dead gorgeous...

So...I'm not saying that racial **** doesn't happen, but I think it's more the behaviour of misguided individuals, rather than systemic, institutional policy.

But, I'm not Black, so - clearly - my perspective isn't what yours is...

[bkrownd]

Pac-West Conference?

[Catsfan90]

Apparently coach just said he's stepping down at the end of the year due to health issues.

[citdog]

Apparently coach just said he's stepping down at the end of the year due to health issues.

I am sure that is the real reason. He sided with the mob against the school admin. As soon as he did someone was writing out his resignation for him.

[Catsfan90]

I am sure that is the real reason. He sided with the mob against the school admin. As soon as he did someone was writing out his resignation for him.
Yah, it definitely seems fishy.

[Panther88]

I am sure that is the real reason. He sided with the mob against the school admin. As soon as he did someone was writing out his resignation for him.

He never directly supported the striking football players. If so, we need to see that link. It was reported that he "verbal'd" his support of them but nothing for the record OR in writing.

The pity party can stop now.

[citdog]

He never directly supported the striking football players. If so, we need to see that link. It was reported that he "verbal'd" his support of them but nothing for the record OR in writing.

The pity party can stop now.

Dude was on every sportstalk radio station in the country. I think that's 'on the record'.

[FormerPokeCenter]

He tweeted his support with a pic of the striking players...

[Panther88]

He tweeted his support with a pic of the striking players...

I'll bet he did feel compelled to tweet a pic w/ his prized stock surrounding him. I would too if my 6+ figure position was dependent upon my livestock's physical prowess. lol

Please excuse me for lol'ing so much through this thread but this whole ordeal is funny as heyell to me. Especially when I innocently xlolx ask(ed) - through the years - certain black players @ certain PWCU schools how they really feel about "their school." Be careful who you recruit. Some really truly don't like you, according to their own mouths, not coerced. Or, they may have been playing that trivial "brotha" card that poster Nickels naively spoke of lol trying to impress me. :D xlolx

[Panther88]

Dude was on every sportstalk radio station in the country. I think that's 'on the record'.

Give up the link, cit. The internet is still functional.

[citdog]

Damn Panther... "livestock"? Really Bro?

[Panther88]

Dude was on every sportstalk radio station in the country. I think that's 'on the record'.

Reference that world-wide link, cit. The internet is still functional.

[citdog]

Reference that world-wide link, cit. The internet is still functional.

Google is your friend.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Is USAToday a credible enough source??

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2015/11/09/missouri-coach-gary-pinkel-concerned-student-1950-football-protest/75438840/#cx_ab_test_id=18&cx_ab_test_variant=cx_ctx&cx_art_pos=3&cx_navSource=arttop&cx_tag=contextual&cx_rec_type=contextual&cx_ctrl_comp_grp=true&cxrecs_s

Here's his Tweet...

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/645644388052283392/qQMBAf3d_bigger.jpgCoach Gary Pinkel ‏@GaryPinkel (https://twitter.com/GaryPinkel) Nov 8 (https://twitter.com/GaryPinkel/status/663410502370856960)
The Mizzou Family stands as one. We are united. We are behind our players. #ConcernedStudent1950 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ConcernedStudent1950?src=hash) GP

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21765&stc=1

[ngineer]

Saw it reported today that Pinkel has lymphoma. I think that qualifies as a health reason. He may well have known before hand realizing that he would be leaving soon, regardless.

[eiu1999]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/amherst-students-make-list-of-demands-for-president-over-legacy-of-oppression-on-campus/

Now at Amherst...

[FormerPokeCenter]

Saw it reported today that Pinkel has lymphoma. I think that qualifies as a health reason. He may well have known before hand realizing that he would be leaving soon, regardless.

He's apparently being treated at Mayo. He tweeted earlier today that he got some good news, and wanted to be able to spend healthy time with his family and didn't feel he could do that with the demands of being a major college football coach. Having said that, though, when you're an employee of a University who takes a social stand in a movement to get rid of the University President, I think you sorta sign your own termination papers...

Lymphoma's never a good thing, but depending on the form of Lymphoma, it's very treatable and even curable with bone marrow transplants...

Some forms of lymphoma respond well to T cell therapy.

It's good that he said he got good news and it'll be interesting to see if they reveal what kind he has...

[bkrownd]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/amherst-students-make-list-of-demands-for-president-over-legacy-of-oppression-on-campus/

Now at Amherst...

Wow who knew that "cis-sexism" and "ableism" have been rampant at idyllic little Amherst College. ...wait..I think they missed the scourge of righthandedism!

[Panther88]

http://www.mediaite.com/online/amherst-students-make-list-of-demands-for-president-over-legacy-of-oppression-on-campus/

Now at Amherst...

Geez louise. The inmates are running the asylum. All of you PWCU products should put a buzz in your prezo's ear that he/she should hire some "handlers" lol that are the same race as the black students in order to quell the uprisings lol. After all, it's been proven that particular strategy works, ala 1960s and 1970s. *wink!* *wink!* *wink!*

I wonder if mizzou will hire a black HC in order to usher in damage control, like so many others tend to do.... kevin sumlin, charlie strong, shaka smart, everett whithers, ... How was everyone's Saturday? Did all enjoy viewing the black livestock, I mean, black student-athletes performing their lured capability (physical prowess) for your respective school? :D

xlolx

[Catatonic]

Wow who knew that "cis-sexism" and "ableism" have been rampant at idyllic little Amherst College. ...wait..I think they missed the scourge of righthandedism!

It's lefties who are oppressed and marginalized. Righty-Privilege is obscene. As a righty I feel soooo guilty for my advantage each time I sit down at the table and note placement of forks and spoons. I apologize and beg the forgiveness of my oppressed left-handed brothers and sisters.

[FormerPokeCenter]

[/B]
It's lefties who are oppressed and marginalized. Righty-Privilege is obscene. As a righty I feel soooo guilty for my advantage each time I sit down at the table and note placement of forks and spoons. I apologize and beg the forgiveness of my oppressed left-handed brothers and sisters.


I appreciate your concern for my plight. I consider you a right-handed ally. But, this is a left-handed safe space. You'll have to leave and let the Left-handers be left=handers...

[bkrownd]

You damn lefties are always putting the mouse on the wrong side of the keyboard. Go back to where you came from!

[FormerPokeCenter]

Left handers are the only folks in our right minds!

[Panther88]

*insert mentally retarded smiley here*

[walliver]

Mr. Trump should make sure the doors on his wall can only be opened with the right hand.

[Panther88]

Dag... no protesting today or this week? Are the controllers, ie overseers :D , mysteriously performing their secretive acts of damage control. It's an amazing animal, not to witness.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Rock Chalk Invisible Jayhawk makes demands at Kansas:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article44321865.html

I should have posted this here. My wife got into the Invisible Hawk crosshairs. It's a **** show.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?178045-Back-with-a-Doozy&p=2287979#post2287979

[OhioHen]

[/B]
It's lefties who are oppressed and marginalized. Righty-Privilege is obscene. As a righty I feel soooo guilty for my advantage each time I sit down at the table and note placement of forks and spoons. I apologize and beg the forgiveness of my oppressed left-handed brothers and sisters.

Why beg forgiveness? The left-handers are the only ones who have the fork naturally positioned for the hand they are most likely to use for the fork. xsmiley_wix

[FormerPokeCenter]

So what you're really saying is that people of lefthandedness should just shut up and be thankful for the etiquette cumbs that fall from the placement table, eh?

That's so righthanded privilegy...

SMH

[walliver]

Why beg forgiveness? The left-handers are the only ones who have the fork naturally positioned for the hand they are most likely to use for the fork. xsmiley_wix

I am opposed to minorities demanding special privileges. I will put my fork wherever I want.

[Panther88]

LTMDS

"left handers"/"right handers" - code for klan :D.

Continue. Some of us are getting a kick out of the superfluous commentary. :D

[PAllen]

Why beg forgiveness? The left-handers are the only ones who have the fork naturally positioned for the hand they are most likely to use for the fork. xsmiley_wix

Actually, left handers are at a disadvantage. The fork is the late comer to the table. It is placed on the left side to be opposite the dominant (normally right) hand which is used for the knife. It is improper table manners (not that I've ever called anyone on it, or really cared all that much) to switch utensils from one hand to the other during the meal. Therefore, when you hold your steak down with your fork while you cut it with your knife, which hand is your fork in? That is the hand that it should stay in.

[OhioHen]

LTMDS

"left handers"/"right handers" - code for klan :D.

Continue. Some of us are getting a kick out of the superfluous commentary. :D

Okay then. Away from superfluous commentary - EVERY player who REFUSED to practice/play for a non-football-related circumstance should have had his scholarship revoked IMMEDIATELY (and kicked out of the University if full tuition, room and board, and other fees not paid within the week). Can't have it both ways.

[Laker]

Mizzou has turned down the chance to go to a bowl even if they would have been asked with a 5-7 record. Nebraska however will accept a spot.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Which Bowl will the Huskers play in?? ? The ParticipationRibbon.com bowl?

[walliver]

Mizzou has turned down the chance to go to a bowl even if they would have been asked with a 5-7 record. Nebraska however will accept a spot.

They did the right thing.

It is incredibly embarrassing for a P5 school to play in a bottom-feeding bowl.