AGS GOTW Week 9

[ursus arctos horribilis]

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Get your nominations in for AGS Game of the Week.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gzhIxE4If0TFpg2tbG25JMGCCsh5AjoTnv8R_8NmQeI/edit#gid=6

Your post must include the specific words "I nominate" or "I second" or it will be ignored.
You must also include either the game itself in your post (i.e. XSU @ UofX) or quote the original nomination or it will be ignored.
You may nominate only one game. You may second as many as you'd like.
Once a game has been seconded, the "pre-voting" begins. Additional seconds are needed to put the game in contention for GOTW: Only the two or three games with the highest number of seconds will be included on the actual poll.
Cutoff for nominations is Tuesday around 7p East Coast Time.




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Nominated:


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Seconded:
Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern - 8
JMU @ W&M - 11
Dartmouth @ Harvard - 7
Jacksonville State vs Eastern Kentucky - 15
Montana @ Portland State - 10
SLU vs. UCA
Jacksonville @Dayton - 1
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[Missingnumber7]

I nominate Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern

[tribe_pride]

I nominate JMU @ W&M

[Bison56]

I second Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern

[hktribefan]

I second JMU @ W&M.

[bostonspider]

I nominate Dartmouth @ Harvard

[Catsfan90]

I second Dartmouth @Harvard.

[Grizalltheway]

I nominate Montana @ Portland State.

[Catsfan90]

I second JMU @W&M

[DaBurds!!]

I nominate Coastal Carolina @ Charleston Southern.
I imagine this will be for the Big South Crown (potentially).

[Catsfan90]

I nominate Jacksonville @Dayton

[BisonTru]

I nominate Dartmouth @ Harvard

I second.

[eiu1999]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU

[ST_Lawson]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU

I second Jacksonville State vs Eastern Kentucky.

[REALBird]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU

second

[Daytripper]

I nominate Dartmouth @ Harvard


I second Dartmouth v. Harvard.

[MR. CHICKEN]

....AH SECOND JACKSONVILLE STATE/E. KENTUCKY....................KEEP BRAWK!

[CasualFan]

I nominate Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern
I second CCU vs. Chuck South.

[PantherRob82]

I nominate JMU @ W&M
seconded

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I nominate Montana @ Portland State.
seconded

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I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU
seconded

[centennial]

I second JMU @ W&M
I second Montana @ PSU

[BEAR]

I nominate the "other team receiving votes" SLU vs. the "team not receiving any votes" UCA. xlolx

[ElCid]

I nominate Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern

I second Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern

Big game with many implications.

[Bison56]

I second Jacksonville State vs Eastern Kentucky.

[BisonBacker]

I second Montana @ Portland State

[CHIP72]

I second James Madison/William & Mary.

I second Dartmouth/Harvard.

I second Coastal Carolina/Charleston Southern.

I second Jacksonville State/Eastern Kentucky.

[tomq04]

I second Montana @ Portland State

[ursus arctos horribilis]

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Seconded:
Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern - 3
JMU @ W&M - 4
Dartmouth @ Harvard - 3
Jacksonville State vs Eastern Kentucky - 5
Montana @ Portland State - 3
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[CHIP72]

My bad, Montana/Portland State also deserves a nomination. There are quite a few good games this week. (If pressed to pick one, I'd probably pick Dartmouth/Harvard.)

I second Montana/Portland State.

[McNeese75]

I second
SLU vs. UCA

[jmufan999]

i second JMU / W&M

[veinup]

I second JMU / W + Mary
I second Montana / PSU
I second JSU / EKU

[Mayville Bison]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU

I second


I nominate Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern

Second this one too


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[ming01]

I nominate Dartmouth @ Harvard

I second

[Ivytalk]

I second Dartmouth at Harvard

I second Jax State/ EKU

[Go Green]

If Dartmouth-Harvard doesn't make it, then we might as well declare that Ivy games are not eligible for consideration.

First time two undefeated Ivy teams have faced each other this late in the season in a while.

[JSU02]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU
I second

[RabidRabbit]

I second James Madison/William & Mary.

I second Dartmouth/Harvard.

I second Coastal Carolina/Charleston Southern.

I second Jacksonville State/Eastern Kentucky.

I second all the above games, and add second to Montana vs Portland St.

[PantherRob82]

I second all the above games, and add second to Montana vs Portland St.

Just say "I second all the games"https://nothingbuttheraindotnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/misc-all-the-things-l-1-1024x768.jpg

[Tribe4SF]

I second JMU@W&M

[Southern Bison]

I second Coastal Carolina vs. Charleston Southern.

[Houndawg]

If Dartmouth-Harvard doesn't make it, then we might as well declare that Ivy games are not eligible for consideration.

First time two undefeated Ivy teams have faced each other this late in the season in a while.

I second declaring Ivy teams ineligible/irrelevant.

[Smitty]

If Dartmouth-Harvard doesn't make it, then we might as well declare that Ivy games are not eligible for consideration.

First time two undefeated Ivy teams have faced each other this late in the season in a while.

I second

[Bam]

I second Jacksonville State/Eastern Kentucky.

[Tribal]

I second JMU @ W&M

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[MR. CHICKEN]

AH SECOND........HAAVAAD/DOTMOUTH..................KEEP BRAWK!

[dewey]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU

I second this HUGE OVC matchup.

Dewey

[jmrepak]

I second Coastal @ Chuck South.

(honestly Jax St and EKU is equally worthy, but of course I vote for Coastal).

[bobcathpdevil56]

I nominate Montana @ Portland State.

I second Montana @ Portland State

[Big_Fan]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU

Second, third, fourth, fifth... whatever. This is a huge game. It is the first real test for EKU outside of the near miss at UK, and the first "gotta get serious" moment for JSU in quite a while...

[Bam]

Second, third, fourth, fifth... whatever. This is a huge game. It is the first real test for EKU outside of the near miss at UK, and the first "gotta get serious" moment for JSU in quite a while...

I still having nightmares from the one!

[wapiti]

I second UM @ PSU

[REALBird]

second Coastal @ Chuck South

[yorkcountyUNHfan]

I second JMU @W&M

[EKU Toss Sweep]

I second EKU @ Jax St.

[JMUNJ08]

I second JMU @ W&M

too many story lines that make it crucial for both teams (not just that Lee is now done for the year)

[DetroitFlyer]

I second Jacksonville at Dayton.

[RootinFerDukes]

I nominate Jacksonville St/EKU

I second.

[grizband]

I second Montana at Portland State

[tomq04]

I second Jacksonville at Dayton.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

If Dartmouth-Harvard doesn't make it, then we might as well declare that Ivy games are not eligible for consideration.

First time two undefeated Ivy teams have faced each other this late in the season in a while.

If it doesn't happen it's on you guys, no one else.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I second Montana at Portland State

I second Montana @ PSU.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

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Seconded:
Coastal Carolina vs Charleston Southern - 8
JMU @ W&M - 11
Dartmouth @ Harvard - 7
Jacksonville State vs Eastern Kentucky - 15
Montana @ Portland State - 10
SLU vs. UCA
Jacksonville @Dayton - 1
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[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'll leave this open for 10 more minutes.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Poll is now active. Nominations and seconds are over with. Voting begins now so get to it. 5 good games with a great nomination battle and many seconds. All games are from different conferences so I am including the top 5 this week.

If you lazy asses actually push a button and vote this should be a good race.

[SENOREIDA]

GOTW has to be CCU @ CSU. Big South crown is on the line.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

GOTW has to be CCU @ CSU. Big South crown is on the line.

How is that any different than most of the others? Every one of those games is of equal importance both nationally and in conference sams maybe the Ivy since it doesn't have playoff implications.

If you think that one is the only one with big stuff attached I think you should peek outside your own conference a little bit.

[Smitty]

Poll is now active. Nominations and seconds are over with. Voting begins now so get to it. 5 good games with a great nomination battle and many seconds. All games are from different conferences so I am including the top 5 this week.

If you lazy asses actually push a button and vote this should be a good race.

Fitting 5 games and a description in 140 characters was pretty difficult... Either way good games to pick from.

[Mayville Bison]

If Dartmouth-Harvard doesn't make it, then we might as well declare that Ivy games are not eligible for consideration.

First time two undefeated Ivy teams have faced each other this late in the season in a while.

Here's a point of view from someone that has seen less than 5 Ivy League games ever.

I don't care about this game. Why should I? The Ivy League has made it very clear that they don't want anything to do with the FCS, just the Ivy League. For OOC games, they seem to always schedule the same teams making it next to impossible to actually gauge how good they are compared to the rest of the FCS. Scheduling the same teams every year isn't the worst part since there are quite a few teams that almost never leave their home to find OOC games. At some point, you do have to factor in the cost of traveling 50 miles instead of 500.

The biggest factor in me not even trying to figure them out is they want nothing to do with the playoffs. I get there is a ton of history there, but I'll flip this back on you and ask you one question: Why should I invest any time in any of the Ivy League teams if I know they are never going to play anyone that I am remotely interested in either in the OOC schedule or postseason play?

EDIT - If this had playoff implications, I would be a lot more interested. I still don't know if it would top some of the other battles, but it would get a lot more attention.

[REALBird]

Here's a point of view from someone that has seen less than 5 Ivy League games ever.

I don't care about this game. Why should I? The Ivy League has made it very clear that they don't want anything to do with the FCS, just the Ivy League. For OOC games, they seem to always schedule the same teams making it next to impossible to actually gauge how good they are compared to the rest of the FCS. Scheduling the same teams every year isn't the worst part since there are quite a few teams that almost never leave their home to find OOC games. At some point, you do have to factor in the cost of traveling 50 miles instead of 500.

The biggest factor in me not even trying to figure them out is they want nothing to do with the playoffs. I get there is a ton of history there, but I'll flip this back on you and ask you one question: Why should I invest any time in any of the Ivy League teams if I know they are never going to play anyone that I am remotely interested in either in the OOC schedule or postseason play?

EDIT - If this had playoff implications, I would be a lot more interested. I still don't know if it would top some of the other battles, but it would get a lot more attention.

I would add, it's not to say that the Ivies don't field "GOOD" football teams, but what do you measure them against other than themselves or the NEC, Patriot or random CAA team they choose to play.

Harvard's best win is against fellow Ivy Brown who is two games back of Dartmouth and Harvard, which proves it's a two horse show. Their lone OOC victory over 1-6 bottom run CAA Rhode Island doesn't move the needle much either.

Dartmouth's best win is against Sacred Heart (4-3) in a very, very mediocre NEC.

You can't tell me that if either wanted to get a regional matchup between Richmond, New Hampshire, James Madison, Villanova, Towson, Fordham on the schedule that it wouldn't happen. But then again, they'd probably see the disparity between the Ivies and the rest of the FCS top teams. Going back to 2005 I could only find Brown, Columbia and Yale on Fordham's schedule. Why not Dartmouth? Why not Princeton? Harvard?

You can't play in your own private sandbox, say you don't care about the FCS playoffs, schedule regionally, isolate yourself then say......"We deserved to be ranked." Why? What does your ranking prove, or for that matter justify...."Hey look, we're ranked and we don't offer scholarships. We're just as good as those schools, and we have TRUE student/athletes. We COULD compete with those schools, BUT it's not about that with Ivies."

I don't participate in the polling, but I would probably never rank an Ivy because it would serve no benefit to which of the top 24 teams get to make the playoffs. Doesn't mean you're not potentially one of the best 24 or 25 programs. I would personally have a hard time justifying any ranking based on the overall body of work. Now if you're consistently playing the top NEC team, top Patriot league teams, top CAA teams and competing or winning. Sure. But for what's happening now.....meh!

I think most pollsters throw in an Ivy toward the end of the season just to make it look good, or because once you get into that 15-25 range, there isn't much separation.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Fitting 5 games and a description in 140 characters was pretty difficult... Either way good games to pick from.

Sorry brother, I did not even think about that but good work anyway. BTW, I think what you are doing ivery cool with the way the poll is done and so forht...very imaginative and creative way of doing things.

[Bisonator]

Here's a point of view from someone that has seen less than 5 Ivy League games ever.

I don't care about this game. Why should I? The Ivy League has made it very clear that they don't want anything to do with the FCS, just the Ivy League. For OOC games, they seem to always schedule the same teams making it next to impossible to actually gauge how good they are compared to the rest of the FCS. Scheduling the same teams every year isn't the worst part since there are quite a few teams that almost never leave their home to find OOC games. At some point, you do have to factor in the cost of traveling 50 miles instead of 500.

The biggest factor in me not even trying to figure them out is they want nothing to do with the playoffs. I get there is a ton of history there, but I'll flip this back on you and ask you one question: Why should I invest any time in any of the Ivy League teams if I know they are never going to play anyone that I am remotely interested in either in the OOC schedule or postseason play?

EDIT - If this had playoff implications, I would be a lot more interested. I still don't know if it would top some of the other battles, but it would get a lot more attention.

This. There insistence on isolation has had a direct impact on their national relevancy. Purely self inflicted. If they don't care why should anybody else care about them.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Man, this is some good racing here. Keep the votes hitting it hard ladies and gents.

[CHIP72]

The flip-side Ivy League arguments are that 1) Dartmouth/Harvard is the only game between undefeated teams and 2) because the Ivy League doesn't participate in the playoffs, this game is bigger for the participants than the other four games (all of which are also standout games on paper) are for their participants. One or both of the teams in the other games will have the opportunity to redeem their seasons in the playoffs even if they lose. Dartmouth and Harvard will not have that opportunity.

[Go Green]

The flip-side Ivy League arguments are that 1) Dartmouth/Harvard is the only game between undefeated teams and 2) because the Ivy League doesn't participate in the playoffs, this game is bigger for the participants than the other four games (all of which are also standout games on paper) are for their participants. One or both of the teams in the other games will have the opportunity to redeem their seasons in the playoffs even if they lose. Dartmouth and Harvard will not have that opportunity.

I understand where people are coming from when they say "why should we care about the Ivy when they won't participate in the playoffs." I respect those views. Really-I wish we'd go in the playoffs, too.

That being said, it's hard to argue that D-H shouldn't be a great game. Harvard is 85 in Sagarin. Dartmouth fell to 120 after our stinker against Columbia (we were in the 100s earlier this year). The only other FCS matchup this week that arguably is better is James Madison (97) v. William & Mary (103).

NFL scouts have been present at many Green and Crimson practices this season.

[Big_Fan]

I understand where people are coming from when they say "why should we care about the Ivy when they won't participate in the playoffs." I respect those views. Really-I wish we'd go in the playoffs, too.

That being said, it's hard to argue that D-H shouldn't be a great game. Harvard is 85 in Sagarin. Dartmouth fell to 120 after our stinker against Columbia (we were in the 100s earlier this year). The only other FCS matchup this week that arguably is better is James Madison (97) v. William & Mary (103).

NFL scouts have been present at many Green and Crimson practices this season.


The EKU @ JSU matchup is not arguably better?

thanks for the heads-up. I will make sure to watch that game.

18 NFL teams visited JSU during the month of September.

[Mayville Bison]

I understand where people are coming from when they say "why should we care about the Ivy when they won't participate in the playoffs." I respect those views. Really-I wish we'd go in the playoffs, too.

That being said, it's hard to argue that D-H shouldn't be a great game. Harvard is 85 in Sagarin. Dartmouth fell to 120 after our stinker against Columbia (we were in the 100s earlier this year). The only other FCS matchup this week that arguably is better is James Madison (97) v. William & Mary (103).

NFL scouts have been present at many Green and Crimson practices this season.

NDSU (70) @ Southern Illinois (114)
Illinois St (67) @ Indiana St (136)
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[Go Green]

NDSU (70) @ Southern Illinois (114)
Illinois St (67) @ Indiana St (136)
xslapfightx

Point taken.

I should have said "among the GOTW nominees."

[Bam]

Man, this is some good racing here. Keep the votes hitting it hard ladies and gents.

Fits well because it is Breeders Cup time in KY.

[tomq04]

Pretty darn close race.

[Houndawg]

The flip-side Ivy League arguments are that 1) Dartmouth/Harvard is the only game between undefeated teams and 2) because the Ivy League doesn't participate in the playoffs, this game is bigger for the participants than the other four games (all of which are also standout games on paper) are for their participants. One or both of the teams in the other games will have the opportunity to redeem their seasons in the playoffs even if they lose. Dartmouth and Harvard will not have that opportunity.

Thats by their own choice. The Ivies are irrelevant to college football. They have their own thing and thats fine; they could have their own poll too.xcoffeex

[AshevilleApp2]

Man, this is some good racing here. Keep the votes hitting it hard ladies and gents.

I agree.

[CHIP72]

Thats by their own choice. The Ivies are irrelevant to college football. They have their own thing and thats fine; they could have their own poll too.xcoffeex

Some (actually probably many) college football fans would argue that the entire FCS division/Division I-AA is completely irrelevant to college football, yet that doesn't stop other people, such as the many dedicated fans on AGS, from avidly following it or enjoying it.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Some (actually probably many) college football fans would argue that the entire FCS division/Division I-AA is completely irrelevant to college football, yet that doesn't stop other people, such as the many dedicated fans on AGS, from avidly following it or enjoying it.

Yes, we're a subset, a small one. They are (as football in the division) an even smaller subset inside this one. It is just a fact that if you want to separate then the rest of your group won't care so why is this a debate? I like all FCS but I honestly don't care too much about what is going in the IL because what happens there does not matter to anything I care about in the near future. They will no be playing my team, or any team I follow on the national spectrum anytime soon.

We're all fine being mutually exclusive so anybody acting like we should care is just flat barking up the wrong tree. It does not matter to most who wins the IL title because it has nothing to do with them.

Actually I'd rather they were part of it of course but since they aren't then I guess I'm fine with that and the fact that I don't care about what is happening there.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

This is a close race on several fronts people and there is only 40 minutes left to vote so get your vote in!