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UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 03:57 PM
How bout that Bizon rushing defense? -8 yards in the past 9 quarters.

JayJ79
October 10th, 2015, 03:58 PM
did NDSU get a media timeout after their TD?

Peems
October 10th, 2015, 03:58 PM
what's wrong with that Bailey guy exactly:D

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 03:58 PM
Need a spy on Bailey.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 03:58 PM
Seems like it is feast or famine with Bailey. He is such an athlete that if you miss him, he's gone.

Kemo
October 10th, 2015, 03:58 PM
Boy, this would be a lame game without all the soybean trivia.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 03:59 PM
what's wrong with that Bailey guy exactly:D

Did you see his first drive? When those kind of drives start stacking up, it gets frustrating.

Cleets
October 10th, 2015, 03:59 PM
I'd like to see what the safeties did on that 85 yard jog down the sidelines...

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 04:00 PM
Ndsu defense not as advertised.

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PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:00 PM
I'd like to see what the safeties did on that 85 yard jog down the sidelines...
agreed

UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 04:00 PM
Guy throws like a punter. Runs like he stole something

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:01 PM
Is ESPN3 behind this thread for everyone or is it just me that's out of luck?

waverly_panther
October 10th, 2015, 04:01 PM
Is ESPN3 behind this thread for everyone or is it just me that's out of luck?
No, 2 lays behind for me too.

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Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:01 PM
I'd like to see what the safeties did on that 85 yard jog down the sidelines...

Our biggest weakness. Used to be our strength.:(

waverly_panther
October 10th, 2015, 04:02 PM
No, 2 lays behind for me too.

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PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:02 PM
No, 2 lays behind for me too.

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OK. I will stop reseting it every break. :D

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:03 PM
Another ****ing turnover.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:03 PM
Another ****ing turnover.

I would be mad for you ruining things for me, but that seems like a positive.

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:03 PM
Now UNI is playing "tough" football

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:04 PM
Game OVER

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:05 PM
Game OVER

You'll still win the title. It's ok. ;)

You guys learn from stuff and get better and such.

JayJ79
October 10th, 2015, 04:05 PM
UNI/NDSU is the Ravens/Steelers rivalry of FCS football.

Kemo
October 10th, 2015, 04:05 PM
This is not the same Carson Wentz I saw last week.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:06 PM
UNI/NDSU is the Ravens/Steelers rivalry of FCS football.

That's a good comparison, Jay. Nicely done.

UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 04:06 PM
McMakin with the fumble - future All American

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:08 PM
Bailey has real issues handing the ball off on the read. Fighting over the ball?

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Bailey should have kept it. He's worried about a dirty hit. xlolx

Cleets
October 10th, 2015, 04:11 PM
How did that completely take the defense by surprise..?

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Holy Schnike..!!!

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:11 PM
Start typing it up

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:11 PM
Off topic, UND sucks. Lost to Idaho State. Told ya'll.

grizband
October 10th, 2015, 04:12 PM
What I want to know is, where's Clenz?

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:12 PM
Off topic, UND sucks. Lost to Idaho State. Told ya'll.
No pleasure when we are losing ourselves.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:12 PM
What I want to know is, where's Clenz?

Would have been nice to have him with us today.

Cleets
October 10th, 2015, 04:13 PM
NDSU sniffed that one out...

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:14 PM
We still have a chance! Wide left!

Cleets
October 10th, 2015, 04:14 PM
40 yard field goal attempt coming up...
then the 2 minute drill from NDSU

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:15 PM
Well here is NDSU chance to come back and win and raise Carson's stock

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:15 PM
MISSED!!!

grizband
October 10th, 2015, 04:15 PM
Missed fieldgoal, NDSU still has a chance to win (rather than just tie) in regulation.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:15 PM
Ugh. Can't just end this one, eh?

Cleets
October 10th, 2015, 04:16 PM
That was a fairly significant MISS right there

grizband
October 10th, 2015, 04:17 PM
Pretty sure that was holding...

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:17 PM
Terrible hold on the completion.

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:18 PM
2 and 20. ****.

Cleets
October 10th, 2015, 04:18 PM
Where's the game show tuba sound on that

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:18 PM
Need big play here. Otherwise we lose.

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:19 PM
Play in under review

grizband
October 10th, 2015, 04:19 PM
Vraa with a big catch, now under review...

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:23 PM
Man Wentz is giving me a heart attack

grizband
October 10th, 2015, 04:23 PM
That would have been a HUGE catch...nice D to force 4th down.

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:23 PM
Huge hit

Cleets
October 10th, 2015, 04:23 PM
Easily the BEST cover safety in FCS

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:23 PM
TD Bison!!!!

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:24 PM
YES!!!!!!!

Prime Power
October 10th, 2015, 04:24 PM
What a game!!

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:24 PM
What a catch by Shepard!!

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM
TD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grizband
October 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM
Wow, what a catch!

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM
Just like 2 years ago.

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM
31-28 with 35 seconds left! Come on D!!!!

Go Lehigh TU Owl
October 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM
Wow!! What a catch! What a game! This like NDSU's playoff games last year!

IBleedYellow
October 10th, 2015, 04:25 PM
If I'm UNI I run the ball. Two timeouts and NDSI hasn't stopped you.

Bison56
October 10th, 2015, 04:26 PM
What a game!

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:26 PM
Our kicker seems like he will miss if given the chance, anyway.

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:26 PM
Put 5 guys on our 40!

Bison56
October 10th, 2015, 04:26 PM
Lots of time for UNI.

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:26 PM
Keep everything in front boys.

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:26 PM
This is why I love FCS Football. Can't get better than this

Rollbird5
October 10th, 2015, 04:28 PM
Man this has been one hell of a game

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:28 PM
Is Bailey going to try to throw?

Da Herd
October 10th, 2015, 04:28 PM
Wow! That incomplete call on the Bonnet pass was a huge break!

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:28 PM
Sacked!!!!

JayJ79
October 10th, 2015, 04:28 PM
that was a ******ing catch and then a fumble. should have been game over

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:29 PM
UNI calls TO with 12 seconds left.

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that was a ******ing catch and then a fumble. should have been game over

He didn't have it long enough for a catch.

Prime Power
October 10th, 2015, 04:29 PM
that was a ******ing catch and then a fumble. should have been game over

No it wasn't.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:30 PM
Are he talking about the Kilfoy hit? That was incomplete.

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:30 PM
Hail Mary time.

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:32 PM
Bison win!!!!

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Wheeeewwwwwww. That was a nail biter!

jsnow84
October 10th, 2015, 04:33 PM
GREAT GAME !!!!!! The Bison had some real stones on those 4th down plays on that last drive. QB did a fantastic job delivering those passes.

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:33 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!

dewey
October 10th, 2015, 04:33 PM
No matter what happens on this last play....what a game.

4 seconds left.

Please no miracle hail Mary catch.

Dewey

Go Lehigh TU Owl
October 10th, 2015, 04:33 PM
Congrats NSDU! To beat SDSU and UN in consecutive weeks I is a helluva feat!

Bison56
October 10th, 2015, 04:34 PM
Wow that was a game!

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:34 PM
Good game UNI! You guys should play like this vs every team. No more NDSU specials.

dewey
October 10th, 2015, 04:34 PM
GREAT GAME !!!!!! The Bison had some real stones on those 4th down plays on that last drive. QB did a fantastic job delivering those passes.

AMEN!

Dewey

IBleedYellow
October 10th, 2015, 04:34 PM
Talk about gutting out an Ugly W!

Bison56
October 10th, 2015, 04:34 PM
that was a ******ing catch and then a fumble. should have been game over

No it wasnt.

Twentysix
October 10th, 2015, 04:34 PM
That was the most hideous camera work in the history of televised sports.

Everyone needs to be fired.

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 04:35 PM
Great game Panthers! You deserved that one but we'll take it. :D

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:36 PM
Congrats to the Bison. It was quite the game. I don't think we will see you again this year, but I was impressed with how our team competed today.

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 04:36 PM
I left after Baileys TD to put them ahead. I was being a bad fan. I think me leaving willed NDSU to win. You're welcome NDSU.

But seriously...what a ****ing fantastic game. Probably one of the best in the Dome. Hell of a game UNI!


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gregatim
October 10th, 2015, 04:36 PM
I do not want to play UNI again.

BisonTru
October 10th, 2015, 04:36 PM
Wow, what a catch!

https://vimeo.com/142017565

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:37 PM
My liver can't take anymore of this. Oh downtown, how you will be my friend tonight

IBleedYellow
October 10th, 2015, 04:37 PM
I left after Baileys TD to put them ahead. I was being a bad fan. I think me leaving willed NDSU to win. You're welcome NDSU.

But seriously...what a ****ing fantastic game. Probably one of the best in the Dome. Hell of a game UNI!


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Never go back in there.

Bison56
October 10th, 2015, 04:38 PM
Why doesn't UNI play like that every week? They always seem to step it up a couple notches when they play NDSU.
Always a physical game between these 2 teams.

gregatim
October 10th, 2015, 04:38 PM
Congrats to the Bison. It was quite the game. I don't think we will see you again this year, but I was impressed with how our team competed today.

I don't want any part of your team again this year. In many ways, we are still your bitch.

UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 04:39 PM
Difference in the game was passing QBs. NDSU setup nice not having to play Redbirds again, UNI's brutal schedule coming back to bite us.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:40 PM
Never go back in there.

Agree. Super lame.

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:41 PM
Difference in the game was passing QBs. NDSU setup nice not having to play Redbirds again, UNI's brutal schedule coming back to bite us.
If you played like this vs Iowa State or Illinois State you would have beaten them by 2 TDs. I don't understand Farley.

UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 04:43 PM
The Iowa State game was as bad a game I have ever witnesses on a mental basis

Hammerhead
October 10th, 2015, 04:44 PM
After the SDSU blowout, I was expecting another one. Both Panther quarterbacks looked good with the run.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:44 PM
If you played like this vs Iowa State or Illinois State you would have beaten them by 2 TDs. I don't understand Farley.

No one does except for Beastman.

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 04:45 PM
Never go back in there.

It was a bad day for me and I will be getting crow stuffed down my throat. Hell of a comeback.


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Drblankstare
October 10th, 2015, 04:46 PM
Anyone who drops UNI in their poll this week is a communist

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 04:48 PM
Agree. Super lame.

If you think I actually meant that thing about the willing them to win, you are mistaken. I wouldn't say anything that stupid and mean it. Sorry. I had a bad day. My bad.


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centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:48 PM
Anyone who drops UNI in their poll this week is a communist
3 losses in- they are on the brink of being left out again. And they would easily beat half the teams in the playoffs.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:49 PM
If you think I actually meant that thing about the willing them to win, you are mistaken. I wouldn't say anything that stupid and mean it. Sorry. I had a bad day. My bad.


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I think anyone who leaves close games early is super lame.

BisonTru
October 10th, 2015, 04:50 PM
Anyone who drops UNI in their poll this week is a communist

I'm might have to drop them to make room for Dayton.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:51 PM
3 losses in- they are on the brink of being left out again. And they would easily beat half the teams in the playoffs.

Why even bother with the playoffs? We do the same stuff we do every time. Play conservative. Don't play the best QB. Play soft defense and allow the winning score.

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I'm might have to drop them to make room for Dayton.

Dayton jumped above #1 in my poll.

Dayton Top 25 Poll
1. Harvard
2. NDSU

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 04:51 PM
I think anyone who leaves close games early is super lame.

Sorry for being super lame. I will be not super lame anymore. Promise


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SUPharmacist
October 10th, 2015, 04:51 PM
I think anyone who leaves close games early is super lame.

This, sorry you had a bad day, but you don't leave any games early.

Ex Pat
October 10th, 2015, 04:55 PM
That was the most hideous camera work in the history of televised sports.

Everyone needs to be fired.

I have never agreed more with a post. I love B Shawn, everything else about that broadcast was complete amateur hour. Couldn't keep up with downs and yardage. Interview Marcus with play in the background. B Shawns mic on during anthem. Missing a play on the goal line to darkness after commercial in 4th qtr? Omg I could go on. Terrible.


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BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 04:55 PM
This, sorry you had a bad day, but you don't leave any games early.

Sorry to everyone on the board. Sorry for my actions. I will never ever do it again. Maybe I should just stop following football. I'll go put myself in fan jail. That way I don't ever do it again.


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centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:56 PM
Sorry to everyone on the board. Sorry for my actions. I will never ever do it again. Maybe I should just stop following football. I'll go put myself in fan jail. That way I don't ever do it again.


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Be nice everyone. Stick around man. We give each other a lot of ****.

Drblankstare
October 10th, 2015, 04:57 PM
Sorry to everyone on the board. Sorry for my actions. I will never ever do it again. Maybe I should just stop following football. I'll go put myself in fan jail. That way I don't ever do it again.


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Relax man, your fine. Bison win, all is good.

TheKingpin28
October 10th, 2015, 04:57 PM
So since Dayton won against San Diego, do they have a lock on the top 25 now?

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 04:58 PM
So since Dayton won against San Diego, do they have a lock on the top 25 now?

I put them in the Hall of Fame instead of my poll.

centennial
October 10th, 2015, 04:59 PM
BTW watching Coastal. I am surprised WIU lost to them.

UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 05:07 PM
This brings echoes of UNI-Delware playoff game in the ice storm and loss to Richmond.

UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 05:19 PM
Farley stated in post game interview that Kollmorgen received concussion on out of bounds hit.

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 05:20 PM
Farley stated in post game interview that Kollmorgen received concussion on out of bounds hit.
Of course....xrolleyesx

X-Factor
October 10th, 2015, 05:27 PM
BTW watching Coastal. I am surprised WIU lost to them.
Have to agree. I'm not seeing top 10 let alone #1

Prime Power
October 10th, 2015, 05:43 PM
Farley stated in post game interview that Kollmorgen received concussion on out of bounds hit.

I am sure he did get the concussion on that play, where his head was never touched.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 05:45 PM
BTW watching Coastal. I am surprised WIU lost to them.
Agreed.

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I am sure he did get the concussion on that play, where his head was never touched.

You do realize a concussion does not require a hit to the head, right?

UNI Pike
October 10th, 2015, 05:46 PM
I am sure he did get the concussion on that play, where his head was never touched.
just the messenger. I didn't get to see the first half, as wife decided that we needed to take kids to pumpkin patch. "We'll be back by one."

Back by three. Just kind of how the entire day has gone...

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Prime Power
October 10th, 2015, 05:48 PM
Agreed.

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You do realize a concussion does not require a hit to the head, right?

Yeah, I know I got a concussion this morning when I stubbed my toe.

Prime Power
October 10th, 2015, 05:50 PM
just the messenger. I didn't get to see the first half, as wife decided that we needed to take kids to pumpkin patch. "We'll be back by one."

Back by three. Just kind of how the entire day has gone...

From my NSA monitored nexus 5

Roger that, I would guess he received the concussion when he took quite a shot to the head a few plays earlier and was slow to get up.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 05:59 PM
Yeah, I know I got a concussion this morning when I stubbed my toe.

Got it, you don't understand concussions.

NDSUSR
October 10th, 2015, 05:59 PM
Stay classy Panthers.

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I f***ing hate NDSU and the BS calls they get at home.

Next year, find a player that you don't need anyway and use him one play early to take out a knee on their QB or MLB or something. Give them a taste of their own medicine.



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PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 06:00 PM
Stay classy Panthers.

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I f***ing hate NDSU and the BS calls they get at home.

Next year, find a player that you don't need anyway and use him one play early to take out a knee on their QB or MLB or something. Give them a taste of their own medicine.



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Yes, because that one poster with 196 posts in almost 3 years is very indicative of our entire fan base.

NDSUSR
October 10th, 2015, 06:01 PM
Yes, because that one poster with 196 posts in almost 3 years is very indicative of our entire fan base.

Yeah and other Pathers fans dont pay their bets... same old song and dance..

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 06:03 PM
Yeah and other Pathers fans dont pay their bets... same old song and dance..

You lost the poll vote you requested. Stop being such a puss. That's for Panther fans. ;)

Drblankstare
October 10th, 2015, 06:05 PM
I really don't think it's necessary to mention in this thread things that are being said in panther nation or bisonville for that matter. It was an amazing game, one of the best 4th quarters I've ever seen. Let's talk about that.

Winterborn
October 10th, 2015, 06:10 PM
I do not think I can take many (any) more 4th quarter's like that. Up/down....Up/down....... I need some stronger beer to calm my shaky hands down...xdrunkyx

But that last catch by Shepard in the end......... xbowx

Bisonwinagn
October 10th, 2015, 07:00 PM
This was not a good game as far as being well played. Both teams had multiple turnovers, penalties, the refs sucked, etc. These are both pretty good teams, but that was far from a good game.

WTFCollegefootballfan
October 10th, 2015, 07:11 PM
I hope Shepard gets healthy fast. He is going to be fun to watch.

Daytripper
October 10th, 2015, 07:12 PM
UNI has run the most difficult early season gauntlet I have ever seen.

X-Factor
October 10th, 2015, 07:13 PM
Damn, I have to say UNI has had our number. I did not expect this game to be so close. UNI would not let go, then NDSU would not let go, and back and forth. Not enough beer for this. Hahaha

FargoBison
October 10th, 2015, 07:28 PM
UNI has run the most difficult early season gauntlet I have ever seen.

And their next two games are at home vs WIU and at SDSU.

dewey
October 10th, 2015, 07:56 PM
I left after Baileys TD to put them ahead. I was being a bad fan.
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That is absolutely ridiculous to leave a game when there is chance to win. Bailey scored with about 5 minutes to go and it lut UNI up by 4. FAR from over. Fair weather fans are the worst.

Dewey

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 08:00 PM
That is absolutely ridiculous to leave a game when there is chance to win. Bailey scored with about 5 minutes to go and it lut UNI up by 4. FAR from over. Fair weather fans are the worst.

Dewey

I make a mistake after never missing a game for the last 16 years and never leaving. Maybe I should have kept my mouth shut. Call me what you want. Im happy they won. Go Bison.

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PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 08:11 PM
I make a mistake after never missing a game for the last 16 years and never leaving. Maybe I should have kept my mouth shut. Call me what you want. Im happy they won. Go Bison.

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That's the key, keeping quiet. Don't tell the internet about your mistakes. xbeerchugx

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 08:14 PM
That's the key, keeping quiet. Don't tell the internet about your mistakes. xbeerchugx

I have much to learn. Was trying to make a little joke and got **** on. It is what it is. Go Bison


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PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 08:16 PM
I have much to learn. Was trying to make a little joke and got **** on. It is what it is. Go Bison


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Post more often. We are a fun bunch.

ST_Lawson
October 10th, 2015, 08:17 PM
BTW watching Coastal. I am surprised WIU lost to them.

Shot ourselves in the foot one too many times in that one, but we're getting better in that aspect. If we play that game now, I think we'd win it.

Bisonator
October 10th, 2015, 08:18 PM
This was not a good game as far as being well played. Both teams had multiple turnovers, penalties, the refs sucked, etc. These are both pretty good teams, but that was far from a good game.

Agreed it wasn't a very cleanly played game but for excitement it had it all. UNI led 14-10 going to the 4th quarter. They scored 2 TD's and NDSU scored 3 in the 4th. Amazing offense or pathetic defense, either way it was entertaining to say the least!

Safe to say without Carson Wentz we don't win that game. He was 26 of 40 for 335 yards, 4 TD's and 2 int's. Ran 12 times for another 47 yards. So he accounted for 382 of our 476 yards! Credit the receivers for making some outstanding catches too.

BisoNick
October 10th, 2015, 08:18 PM
Post more often. We are a fun bunch.

Oh no I love reading this board. The MVFC Thread is classic. Rookie mistake by me. I'll stick around.


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Missingnumber7
October 10th, 2015, 08:42 PM
This was not a good game as far as being well played. Both teams had multiple turnovers, penalties, the refs sucked, etc. These are both pretty good teams, but that was far from a good game.

How did the refs suck? IMHO it was a well officiated game.

IBleedYellow
October 10th, 2015, 08:48 PM
Oh no I love reading this board. The MVFC Thread is classic. Rookie mistake by me. I'll stick around.


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I was just giving you ****, because I hate watching the 'Dome turn blue when NDSU is winning. AND I REALLY HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS WHEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE MIGHT LOSE!!

JayJ79
October 10th, 2015, 10:43 PM
How did the refs suck? IMHO it was a well officiated game.

yeah, as a NDSU fan, you probably would think that.

IBleedYellow
October 10th, 2015, 11:00 PM
yeah, as a NDSU fan, you probably would think that.

As an NDSU fan, I thought it was a poorly officiated game.

BisonTru
October 10th, 2015, 11:01 PM
Does anybody have a link to Farleys postgame presser?

Missingnumber7
October 10th, 2015, 11:05 PM
As an NDSU fan, I thought it was a poorly officiated game.

How? As a college fb official I thought it was a well officiated uneventful game. Due to the past history between these teams there is always a point in the game or an issue where I catch myself and say they probably should've flagged that and there wouldn't be an issue. Didnt' really have anything like that. They let them play, called obvious advantage/disadvantage stuff. But I was also sitting at home limited to crappy NBC ND coverage.

Missingnumber7
October 10th, 2015, 11:24 PM
yeah, as a NDSU fan, you probably would think that.

Has nothing to do with being an NDSU fan, I watch FB as an official, because I'm trying to move up to the next level. I thought it was well officiated, in fact I think that officiating in the MVFC has improved over the past few years (it has benefitted from the Big 10, MAC, and MVFC officials coming from the same group and having Bill Corollo as head of officials).

The rule the got that pissed Farley off was actually impressive that they got it correct as many crews have gotten it wrong and have had to have replay correct them, which is a huge ding.

A dead ball personal foul is enforced from the succeeding spot. The succeeding spot for that play was where he ran out of bounds, because it was 4th down and he did not reach the line to gain (first down) the succeeding spot was 1st and 10 for NDSU.

Straight from the rule book, different penalty, same application:
Approved Ruling 10-1-5
I. With fourth and eight, Team A gains four yards and the ball is declared dead, after which B1 is called for piling on.
RULING: Team B personal foul. Penalty—15 yards from the succeeding spot. First and 10 for Team B

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 11:25 PM
Has nothing to do with being an NDSU fan, I watch FB as an official, because I'm trying to move up to the next level. I thought it was well officiated, in fact I think that officiating in the MVFC has improved over the past few years (it has benefitted from the Big 10, MAC, and MVFC officials coming from the same group and having Bill Corollo as head of officials).

The rule the got that pissed Farley off was actually impressive that they got it correct as many crews have gotten it wrong and have had to have replay correct them, which is a huge ding.

A dead ball personal foul is enforced from the succeeding spot. The succeeding spot for that play was where he ran out of bounds, because it was 4th down and he did not reach the line to gain (first down) the succeeding spot was 1st and 10 for NDSU.

Straight from the rule book, different penalty, same application:
Approved Ruling 10-1-5
I. With fourth and eight, Team A gains four yards and the ball is declared dead, after which B1 is called for piling on.
RULING: Team B personal foul. Penalty—15 yards from the succeeding spot. First and 10 for Team B

That was already covered. ;)

WTFCollegefootballfan
October 10th, 2015, 11:30 PM
How? As a college fb official I thought it was a well officiated uneventful game. Due to the past history between these teams there is always a point in the game or an issue where I catch myself and say they probably should've flagged that and there wouldn't be an issue. Didnt' really have anything like that. They let them play, called obvious advantage/disadvantage stuff. But I was also sitting at home limited to crappy NBC ND coverage.

Bonnet was targeted hit in the head on the final drive, no flag. Shepard was hit is the head with a fist on the final touchdown, no flag. Saw a least two other hits to the head on BISON players during the game.

Herder
October 10th, 2015, 11:32 PM
that was a ******ing catch and then a fumble. should have been game over

Thats an incomplete pass in any league, Saturday or Sunday, 10 times out of 10.

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 11:33 PM
Both sides need to stop. xlolx

BisonFan02
October 10th, 2015, 11:34 PM
Both sides need to stop. xlolx

Speaking of.....took my kids to Chuck E Cheese after the game....had some pizza and wings...pretty sure their pizza is better than Spicy Pie. xlolx

Missingnumber7
October 10th, 2015, 11:51 PM
Bonnet was targeted hit in the head on the final drive, no flag. Shepard was hit is the head with a fist on the final touchdown, no flag. Saw a least two other hits to the head on BISON players during the game.

Look at the Bonnet hit again, its on ESPN3. The hit is with the shoulder, well within the strikezone which is lowered because Bonnet's going to the ground.

With the Shepard one, look at it this way, hes got a padded cast on his hand, he's trying to strip the ball out on the way down, he's just continuing that act. If he really wanted to throw a punch, why would you do it at a facemask?

PantherRob82
October 10th, 2015, 11:52 PM
Speaking of.....took my kids to Chuck E Cheese after the game....had some pizza and wings...pretty sure their pizza is better than Spicy Pie. xlolx

Nice. I bet your kids whine less than a lot of people on this message board.

For f%@! sakes, UNI wouldn't have done anything meaningful with this win anyway.

WTFCollegefootballfan
October 10th, 2015, 11:53 PM
Look at the Bonnet hit again, its on ESPN3. The hit is with the shoulder, well within the strikezone which is lowered because Bonnet's going to the ground.

With the Shepard one, look at it this way, hes got a padded cast on his hand, he's trying to strip the ball out on the way down, he's just continuing that act. If he really wanted to throw a punch, why would you do it at a facemask?

Shoulder to the head is still targeting.

Bisonwinagn
October 10th, 2015, 11:56 PM
Shoulder to the head is still targeting.


Please don't bring up targeting bull**** on regular football plays. It's idiotic to even say something like that.

Missingnumber7
October 11th, 2015, 12:32 AM
Shoulder to the head is still targeting.

There is no shoulder to head, read what I wrote...the hit is with the shoulder within the strike zone, meaning below the shoulder pads. Not targeting ever at anytime.

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 05:57 AM
Great game yesterday. One that is right up there with the SHSU game back in '07.

Both teams bring the best out of each other when they play. I was impressed with both teams and how they made plays. Carson left some points on the field but sometimes **** happens.

Bailey came in and played pretty darn well in the 2nd half. He showed some speed on his read option runs. Bison were out of position on his long TD run but hey, the kid made a great read.

Pretty evenly matched teams and it showed except for TOP but sometimes that does not tell the whole story.

Both teams had some injuries so hopefully they all bounce back and play this week.

Oh ya, the Valley is a frickin meat grinder!!!

TennBison
October 11th, 2015, 07:14 AM
I have never noticed before, but does the clock always stop with less than 2 minutes to go in order to reset the ball (or place it) when there were no time outs called and the plays are stopped from going out of bounds. The refs seemed to take a lot of time setting the ball on UNIs last drive and it seemed to give them all kinds of time to gather themselves after each play. I know that back in my day the clock always ran after each running play even while the refs were trying to unpile players and set the ball for the snap. Even during the rest of the game, after each running play the clock keeps running, so is it different once you get within 2 minutes to play???

Professor Chaos
October 11th, 2015, 09:17 AM
I have never noticed before, but does the clock always stop with less than 2 minutes to go in order to reset the ball (or place it) when there were no time outs called and the plays are stopped from going out of bounds. The refs seemed to take a lot of time setting the ball on UNIs last drive and it seemed to give them all kinds of time to gather themselves after each play. I know that back in my day the clock always ran after each running play even while the refs were trying to unpile players and set the ball for the snap. Even during the rest of the game, after each running play the clock keeps running, so is it different once you get within 2 minutes to play???
On sacks they do that I believe. I don't think they should stop the clock on any other in bounds running play or pass completion short of the line to gain.

Professor Chaos
October 11th, 2015, 09:23 AM
My take on that game was NDSU deserved to lose and UNI deserved to win but there's something about these NDSU kids that just doesn't allow themselves to lose. A lot of non-Bison fans probably roll their eyes reading that statement but it's absolutely true. Just like bad teams find a way to lose, good teams find a way to win. Those were both really good teams out there yesterday. I caught a bit of Farley's post game presser and agreed with most everything I heard especially when he said UNI didn't do anything to lose the game on that last drive by the Bison, it was just some fantastic plays made by Wentz and the WRs.

It's back to the drawing board for the NDSU defense after this one. Montana and UNI have absolutely gashed them with the no-huddle attack and the Bison LBs were awful in pursuit defending the read option yesterday. This is one of those games where, from the defensive perspective, should be just as focusing as a loss would've been because they just got manhandled by UNI for a good portion of that game. Before the game NDSU had given up something like 160 yards on the ground in 4 games, yesterday they gave up 280.

With that said what an amazing game. Great game Panthers! If they play like that the rest of the year I don't think they'll lose. 5 lead changes in the 4th was just a ridiculous roller coaster that I'd be happy to not experience again for a while.

Gil Dobie
October 11th, 2015, 09:57 AM
Post more often. We are a fun bunch.

Rob is our leader xnodx

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 10:05 AM
Shoulder to the head is still targeting.
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PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 10:07 AM
My take on that game was NDSU deserved to lose and UNI deserved to win but there's something about these NDSU kids that just doesn't allow themselves to lose. A lot of non-Bison fans probably roll their eyes reading that statement but it's absolutely true. Just like bad teams find a way to lose, good teams find a way to win. Those were both really good teams out there yesterday. I caught a bit of Farley's post game presser and agreed with most everything I heard especially when he said UNI didn't do anything to lose the game on that last drive by the Bison, it was just some fantastic plays made by Wentz and the WRs.

It's back to the drawing board for the NDSU defense after this one. Montana and UNI have absolutely gashed them with the no-huddle attack and the Bison LBs were awful in pursuit defending the read option yesterday. This is one of those games where, from the defensive perspective, should be just as focusing as a loss would've been because they just got manhandled by UNI for a good portion of that game. Before the game NDSU had given up something like 160 yards on the ground in 4 games, yesterday they gave up 280.

With that said what an amazing game. Great game Panthers! If they play like that the rest of the year I don't think they'll lose. 5 lead changes in the 4th was just a ridiculous roller coaster that I'd be happy to not experience again for a while.

I agree with everything except you agreeing with Farley. Playing soft defense on 3rd and 20 with the game on the line was a huge mistake.

Professor Chaos
October 11th, 2015, 10:37 AM
I agree with everything except you agreeing with Farley. Playing soft defense on 3rd and 20 with the game on the line was a huge mistake.
Haha, well I wouldn't necessarily agree with all his coaching decisions. I thought his decision to go for it on 4th and 7 from the NDSU 35 with 20 seconds left in the 1st half was very suspect. Especially after letting the clock run all the way down to 20 seconds from 1:10 when the 3rd down play ended. I'm sure Bison fans and Panther fans could argue until our faces are blue about whether or not that PF called on NDSU on that play was really a PF but that's what took Kollmorgen out of the game. IMO, if Farley didn't have confidence in his kicker (which after watching him miss that 37 yarder with 2:30 left in the game I'm guessing he didn't) he should've just punted it with that little time on the clock. Or if he wanted to go for it all along he should've called timeout or snapped the 4th down play with more than 20 seconds left in the half to give his offense a chance to do something if they did convert.

JayJ79
October 11th, 2015, 10:47 AM
I have never noticed before, but does the clock always stop with less than 2 minutes to go in order to reset the ball (or place it) when there were no time outs called and the plays are stopped from going out of bounds. The refs seemed to take a lot of time setting the ball on UNIs last drive and it seemed to give them all kinds of time to gather themselves after each play. I know that back in my day the clock always ran after each running play even while the refs were trying to unpile players and set the ball for the snap. Even during the rest of the game, after each running play the clock keeps running, so is it different once you get within 2 minutes to play???

Not sure which plays in particular you are referring to.
But in college, the clock stops on first downs until the chains are set and the ball marked ready for play,
and there were some injury timeouts
and there was one instance where the down marker showed 3rd down when it should have been 2nd, so the officials had to stop the clock to get that sorted out.

Bisonator
October 11th, 2015, 10:50 AM
I agree with everything except you agreeing with Farley. Playing soft defense on 3rd and 20 with the game on the line was a huge mistake.
I hate the prevent defense as much as anyone but that was actually the right call there. Bison needed a TD to win. Who cares if you give up yards or even first downs. The TD was actually pretty damn good double coverage, our WR just made a huge play. Sometimes you just gotta tip your hat.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 10:54 AM
I hate the prevent defense as much as anyone but that was actually the right call there. Bison needed a TD to win. Who cares if you give up yards or even first downs. The TD was actually pretty damn good double coverage, our WR just made a huge play. Sometimes you just gotta tip your hat.

If you watched over a decade of your team "giving up yards" that led to the game winning touchdown, you would care. Play legit D on 3rd and 20, don't let anyone behind you, but don't give up and easy 10-15 and the Bison may have had a much tougher 4th down conversion.

JayJ79
October 11th, 2015, 10:54 AM
Haha, well I wouldn't necessarily agree with all his coaching decisions. I thought his decision to go for it on 4th and 7 from the NDSU 35 with 20 seconds left in the 1st half was very suspect. Especially after letting the clock run all the way down to 20 seconds from 1:10 when the 3rd down play ended. I'm sure Bison fans and Panther fans could argue until our faces are blue about whether or not that PF called on NDSU on that play was really a PF but that's what took Kollmorgen out of the game. IMO, if Farley didn't have confidence in his kicker (which after watching him miss that 37 yarder with 2:30 left in the game I'm guessing he didn't) he should've just punted it with that little time on the clock. Or if he wanted to go for it all along he should've called timeout or snapped the 4th down play with more than 20 seconds left in the half to give his offense a chance to do something if they did convert.

hitting a QB after he's already been pushed out of bounds like that gets flagged pretty much every time. (it's just that in normal situations, the penalty actually means something).

Farley didn't go for the FG in that situation b/c it would have been a fairly long one and our kicker is still dinged up from an injury he took a few weeks ago. And he ran down the clock so that if they didn't pick up the first down, NDSU wouldn't have much time to work with (and if they did get the 1st, then he could call timeout and put the FG unit out there for a shorter attempt).
I don't have an issue with the clock management in that particular situation, just with other aspects of the coaching in that game

Professor Chaos
October 11th, 2015, 11:13 AM
hitting a QB after he's already been pushed out of bounds like that gets flagged pretty much every time. (it's just that in normal situations, the penalty actually means something).

Farley didn't go for the FG in that situation b/c it would have been a fairly long one and our kicker is still dinged up from an injury he took a few weeks ago. And he ran down the clock so that if they didn't pick up the first down, NDSU wouldn't have much time to work with (and if they did get the 1st, then he could call timeout and put the FG unit out there for a shorter attempt).
I don't have an issue with the clock management in that particular situation, just with other aspects of the coaching in that game
Yeah, but if you get a first down there and it's a 40 yard FG with an injured kicker instead of a 50 yard FG with an injured kicker is it much better? I have a feeling that if he tried the 50 yarder and missed it Klieman just would've had them kneel on it anyway. That seems to be his end of half MO no matter how many TOs they have. In any case 4th and 7 or 8 doesn't have a high probability of success, if it would've been 4th and 4 or less in that game situation I would've been a lot less surprised to see them go for it.

And they didn't call the PF on Kollmorgen on the 2nd guy that came in (#49), they called it on #99 who was the first guy to hit him. That's all I'm going to say about it because it'll be fruitless to argue about it.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 11:20 AM
Yeah, but if you get a first down there and it's a 40 yard FG with an injured kicker instead of a 50 yard FG with an injured kicker is it much better? I have a feeling that if he tried the 50 yarder and missed it Klieman just would've had them kneel on it anyway. That seems to be his end of half MO no matter how many TOs they have. In any case 4th and 7 or 8 doesn't have a high probability of success, if it would've been 4th and 4 or less in that game situation I would've been a lot less surprised to see them go for it.

And they didn't call the PF on Kollmorgen on the 2nd guy that came in (#49), they called it on #99 who was the first guy to hit him. That's all I'm going to say about it because it'll be fruitless to argue about it.

You do realize sometimes refs call the wrong number, right? ;)

They saw the action, that drew the flag. They had a 50/50 chance of picking the guy that did it. :D

TennBison
October 11th, 2015, 11:59 AM
Not sure which plays in particular you are referring to.
But in college, the clock stops on first downs until the chains are set and the ball marked ready for play,
and there were some injury timeouts
and there was one instance where the down marker showed 3rd down when it should have been 2nd, so the officials had to stop the clock to get that sorted out.
On UNI s last drive. They were down by the 25 yard line in the south end zone. 3 times the refs had the clock stopped when it would normally be going as far as I thought. One you say was the marker was wrong so I get that one, but two other times they were basically sitting around for what seemed like 10-15 seconds just waiting on something before allowing the play to start. That in my mind seemed to give UNI a chance to collect themselves instead of needing to rush to get plays off.

CommishBigSmooth
October 11th, 2015, 12:22 PM
On UNI s last drive. They were down by the 25 yard line in the south end zone. 3 times the refs had the clock stopped when it would normally be going as far as I thought. One you say was the marker was wrong so I get that one, but two other times they were basically sitting around for what seemed like 10-15 seconds just waiting on something before allowing the play to start. That in my mind seemed to give UNI a chance to collect themselves instead of needing to rush to get plays off.

I'd have to watch it back because we could not hear in the Dome, but did they review that last pass with the attempted hook and ladder to see if it was a forward lateral? That maybe why they slowed one of those plays down. I believe the other play before that had an offside call against NDSU that was declined.

gregatim
October 11th, 2015, 01:16 PM
If you watched over a decade of your team "giving up yards" that led to the game winning touchdown, you would care. Play legit D on 3rd and 20, don't let anyone behind you, but don't give up and easy 10-15 and the Bison may have had a much tougher 4th down conversion.

I agree, prevent defense is a recipe for disaster. IMO it just puts your guys on their heels. I'd have brought more pressure on the first few plays starting on the 3rd and 20 play, especially since your defense was pretty gassed at that point.

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 01:34 PM
I agree, prevent defense is a recipe for disaster. IMO it just puts your guys on their heels. I'd have brought more pressure on the first few plays starting on the 3rd and 20 play, especially since your defense was pretty gassed at that point.

Then again ISUr lost the Championship on a huge blitz.

JayJ79
October 11th, 2015, 02:00 PM
I'd have to watch it back because we could not hear in the Dome, but did they review that last pass with the attempted hook and ladder to see if it was a forward lateral? That maybe why they slowed one of those plays down. I believe the other play before that had an offside call against NDSU that was declined.

yes, they did review that play
and yes, there was an offsides penalty that was declined.
both are situations in which the clock would have been stopped until the officials marked the ball ready for play.

JayJ79
October 11th, 2015, 02:05 PM
You do realize sometimes refs call the wrong number, right? ;)

They saw the action, that drew the flag. They had a 50/50 chance of picking the guy that did it. :D

heck, there were some penalties called at times on player numbers that weren't even on the field at the time.
it happens.
only time it is really an issue is if they call an unsportsmanlike on the incorrect player, in which case, I'm sure the coach would question it and they would hopefully get it assessed to the correct player.

speaking of which, I assume there is some rule in place where if a player is assessed a certain number of unsportsmanlike infractions, they face a further penalty (given how they've started announcing "this is ##'s first unsportsmanlike". does anyone have details on that?

CommishBigSmooth
October 11th, 2015, 02:46 PM
heck, there were some penalties called at times on player numbers that weren't even on the field at the time.
it happens.
only time it is really an issue is if they call an unsportsmanlike on the incorrect player, in which case, I'm sure the coach would question it and they would hopefully get it assessed to the correct player.

speaking of which, I assume there is some rule in place where if a player is assessed a certain number of unsportsmanlike infractions, they face a further penalty (given how they've started announcing "this is ##'s first unsportsmanlike". does anyone have details on that?

A player is now disqualified on their second unsportsmanlike conduct foul of the game. New from the NCAA in 2015.

Bisonoline
October 11th, 2015, 02:57 PM
My take on that game was NDSU deserved to lose and UNI deserved to win but there's something about these NDSU kids that just doesn't allow themselves to lose. A lot of non-Bison fans probably roll their eyes reading that statement but it's absolutely true. Just like bad teams find a way to lose, good teams find a way to win. Those were both really good teams out there yesterday. I caught a bit of Farley's post game presser and agreed with most everything I heard especially when he said UNI didn't do anything to lose the game on that last drive by the Bison, it was just some fantastic plays made by Wentz and the WRs.

It's back to the drawing board for the NDSU defense after this one. Montana and UNI have absolutely gashed them with the no-huddle attack and the Bison LBs were awful in pursuit defending the read option yesterday. This is one of those games where, from the defensive perspective, should be just as focusing as a loss would've been because they just got manhandled by UNI for a good portion of that game. Before the game NDSU had given up something like 160 yards on the ground in 4 games, yesterday they gave up 280.

With that said what an amazing game. Great game Panthers! If they play like that the rest of the year I don't think they'll lose. 5 lead changes in the 4th was just a ridiculous roller coaster that I'd be happy to not experience again for a while.

I agree. For a good portion of the game we were out played and out coached. I was absolutely confused on what we were trying to do the first quarter and a half on offense. As always UNI came in wired tight. Very quick, talented and physical team.

We got away with this one.

BisonTru
October 11th, 2015, 04:10 PM
Does anybody have a link to Farleys postgame presser?

Bump.

JayJ79
October 11th, 2015, 04:18 PM
Does anybody have a link to Farleys postgame presser?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zloWEvRDhgI

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 04:19 PM
https://youtu.be/zloWEvRDhgI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zloWEvRDhgI

Dude.....woah. xlolx

JayJ79
October 11th, 2015, 04:22 PM
https://youtu.be/zloWEvRDhgI

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Dude.....woah. xlolx

beat ya by a minute.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 04:27 PM
beat ya by a minute.

Pretty crazy that we had the exact same thought and even picked the same exact video.

TheKingpin28
October 11th, 2015, 05:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zloWEvRDhgI

I cannot unsee that. But rep to you

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 05:41 PM
My take on that game was NDSU deserved to lose and UNI deserved to win but there's something about these NDSU kids that just doesn't allow themselves to lose. A lot of non-Bison fans probably roll their eyes reading that statement but it's absolutely true. Just like bad teams find a way to lose, good teams find a way to win. Those were both really good teams out there yesterday. I caught a bit of Farley's post game presser and agreed with most everything I heard especially when he said UNI didn't do anything to lose the game on that last drive by the Bison, it was just some fantastic plays made by Wentz and the WRs.

It's back to the drawing board for the NDSU defense after this one. Montana and UNI have absolutely gashed them with the no-huddle attack and the Bison LBs were awful in pursuit defending the read option yesterday. This is one of those games where, from the defensive perspective, should be just as focusing as a loss would've been because they just got manhandled by UNI for a good portion of that game. Before the game NDSU had given up something like 160 yards on the ground in 4 games, yesterday they gave up 280.

With that said what an amazing game. Great game Panthers! If they play like that the rest of the year I don't think they'll lose. 5 lead changes in the 4th was just a ridiculous roller coaster that I'd be happy to not experience again for a while.



Totally disagree with the assessment that NDSU deserved to "lose" the game. Both teams moved the ball. UNI on the ground and NDSU thru the air. Bison made the plays on the last drive to win the game. Dang right they deserved to win. Maybe UNI would have won if they had more time to score on their last drive.

Both teams made plays, the yardage proves that. NDSU dominated the TOP but that sometimes doesn't tell the whole story.

Plus, I don't think there needs to be a "back to the drawing board" for the defense. UNI has scholarship players and they played pretty well. I think many Bison fans, me included, sometimes think the Bison should win every game by 3-4 scores and hold the teams under 200 yards every game. We are spoiled. This team is getting better but they played a UNI team that is pretty darn good also.

I think UNI will go 8-3 or 7-4 and will be in the playoffs. These two teams might see each other again.

Professor Chaos
October 11th, 2015, 05:53 PM
Totally disagree with the assessment that NDSU deserved to "lose" the game. Both teams moved the ball. UNI on the ground and NDSU thru the air. Bison made the plays on the last drive to win the game. Dang right they deserved to win. Maybe UNI would have won if they had more time to score on their last drive.

Both teams made plays, the yardage proves that. NDSU dominated the TOP but that sometimes doesn't tell the whole story.

Plus, I don't think there needs to be a "back to the drawing board" for the defense. UNI has scholarship players and they played pretty well. I think many Bison fans, me included, sometimes think the Bison should win every game by 3-4 scores and hold the teams under 200 yards every game. We are spoiled. This team is getting better but they played a UNI team that is pretty darn good also.

I think UNI will go 8-3 or 7-4 and will be in the playoffs. These two teams might see each other again.
Maybe "deserved to lose" wasn't the right way of putting it. What I meant was UNI did everything they needed to do to win that game. NDSU's offense just willed themselves to win because they're just wired to not accept anything else. Its a remarkable trait that very very few teams around the country have even though everyone tries to preach it. It being the "refuse to lose" or "never give up" mantra.

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 06:03 PM
Maybe "deserved to lose" wasn't the right way of putting it. What I meant was UNI did everything they needed to do to win that game. NDSU's offense just willed themselves to win because they're just wired to not accept anything else. Its a remarkable trait that very very few teams around the country have even though everyone tries to preach it. It being the "refuse to lose" or "never give up" mantra.


Agree with all of that.

CW is a beast of a QB. He made some mistakes but still gathered the offense and moved them down the field to win the game.

What you just said in describing the "mantra" reinforces what Coach Stig said last week about the Bison coming on the field and expecting to win. His team is not there yet, according to him.

UNI always plays the Bison tough as hell then they lay an egg against a team they should roll. But heck, they could run the table the rest of the year. SDSU will be tough in CAS but a 8-3 or 7-4 Panther team will be a tough out for anyone.

I would like to see these team play again and see what kind of adjustments the teams make......although, I don't think by blood pressure could take it....:)

Bisonwinagn
October 11th, 2015, 06:08 PM
Haha, well I wouldn't necessarily agree with all his coaching decisions. I thought his decision to go for it on 4th and 7 from the NDSU 35 with 20 seconds left in the 1st half was very suspect. Especially after letting the clock run all the way down to 20 seconds from 1:10 when the 3rd down play ended. I'm sure Bison fans and Panther fans could argue until our faces are blue about whether or not that PF called on NDSU on that play was really a PF but that's what took Kollmorgen out of the game. IMO, if Farley didn't have confidence in his kicker (which after watching him miss that 37 yarder with 2:30 left in the game I'm guessing he didn't) he should've just punted it with that little time on the clock. Or if he wanted to go for it all along he should've called timeout or snapped the 4th down play with more than 20 seconds left in the half to give his offense a chance to do something if they did convert.

I agree with Farley on how he handled it. He wanted to leave NDSU with only a little time so there was nothing to lose by going for it. I think it was a pretty easy decision and good strategy.

Bisonwinagn
October 11th, 2015, 06:15 PM
Agree with all of that.

CW is a beast of a QB. He made some mistakes but still gathered the offense and moved them down the field to win the game.

What you just said in describing the "mantra" reinforces what Coach Stig said last week about the Bison coming on the field and expecting to win. His team is not there yet, according to him.

UNI always plays the Bison tough as hell then they lay an egg against a team they should roll. But heck, they could run the table the rest of the year. SDSU will be tough in CAS but a 8-3 or 7-4 Panther team will be a tough out for anyone.

I would like to see these team play again and see what kind of adjustments the teams make......although, I don't think by blood pressure could take it....:)

I would like to see UNI's record if they played every game like they do against NDSU every year. It may just be a matchup thing, but they are always the toughest team on our schedule. A win is a win and hopefully they will get the defense figured out. I keep forgetting it's only week 2 and lot's of games left for improvement.

Scooter
October 11th, 2015, 06:25 PM
Farley has an excuse for every loss. NDSU defense got beat on some plays by some good athletes who executed a few plays perfectly. UNI played well on defense but still have up 31 points. NDSU stuck with the game plan, lost their starting center, but still drove right down the field and scored. The NDSU defense came out after playing terrible two series in a row and stopped UNI when it counted.
NDSU fans are so fickle. The truth is UNI came out and punched NDSU in the mouth but NDSU got their jabs in as well. If UNI wanted to win all they had to do was run out the clock after the Carson fumble. The Bison marched on UNI pretty easily late in the game, that was the real difference. UNI gave NDSU their best game and still lost. That should say something. It also says something about the Bison defense. They could have folded after the Carson fumble they didn't. In the end, NDSU made the important stops. I'm glad we won and the bonus is I can have fun reading about how ****ty the 19-2 NDSU coaching staff is by the hand wringing elite fans on Bisonville for another week. Cue knee jerk reaction in five, four, three, two.....

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 06:37 PM
Farley has an excuse for every loss. NDSU defense got beat on some plays by some good athletes who executed a few plays perfectly. UNI played well on defense but still have up 31 points. NDSU stuck with the game plan, lost their starting center, but still drove right down the field and scored. The NDSU defense came out after playing terrible two series in a row and stopped UNI when it counted.
NDSU fans are so fickle. The truth is UNI came out and punched NDSU in the mouth but NDSU got their jabs in as well. If UNI wanted to win all they had to do was run out the clock after the Carson fumble. The Bison marched on UNI pretty easily late in the game, that was the real difference. UNI gave NDSU their best game and still lost. That should say something. It also says something about the Bison defense. They could have folded after the Carson fumble they didn't. In the end, NDSU made the important stops. I'm glad we won and the bonus is I can have fun reading about how ****ty the 19-2 NDSU coaching staff is by the hand wringing elite fans on Bisonville for another week. Cue knee jerk reaction in five, four, three, two.....


Good post!

Both teams made plays. UNI has very good players that will make plays and are tough.

UNI/NDSU probably will always be close since they are so similar.

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 06:38 PM
I would like to see UNI's record if they played every game like they do against NDSU every year. It may just be a matchup thing, but they are always the toughest team on our schedule. A win is a win and hopefully they will get the defense figured out. I keep forgetting it's only week 2 and lot's of games left for improvement.


UNI is tough. Now, USD is coming to town. It will be interesting to see how the Bison play. I suspect they will come out and pound USD.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 07:17 PM
UNI/NDSU probably will always be close since they are so similar.
Like last year. (You have to give us something. ;) )

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 07:27 PM
Like last year. (You have to give us something. ;) )


I was at that game. UNI played a good game and deserved to win. I like that new video board also. The crap in the FargoDome is a joke.

I'm just happy to see Xavier and DJ gone....finally.....xnodx

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 08:16 PM
I was at that game. UNI played a good game and deserved to win. I like that new video board also. The crap in the FargoDome is a joke.

I'm just happy to see Xavier and DJ gone....finally.....xnodx

Me too. I'm happy DJ can play for a good team that uses him properly.

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:17 PM
The crap in the FargoDome is a joke.



Care to elaborate? UNI is a joke, always has been, always will be.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 08:18 PM
Care to elaborate? UNI is a joke, always has been, always will be.

Want to bet on that?

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:20 PM
Want to bet on that?

Why? You wont pay anyway you pussy.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 08:23 PM
Why? You wont pay anyway you pussy.

Spill the milk in your picture? I imagined you as being younger.

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:25 PM
Spill the milk in your picture? I imagined you as being younger.
Got that $$ that you owe me? I will take EBT.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 08:26 PM
Got that $$ that you owe me? I will take EBT.

The polls don't lie. No money owed. ;)

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 08:27 PM
Care to elaborate? UNI is a joke, always has been, always will be.


Referencing the video board at UNI. I really liked their new one. The small, 4 corners video boards in the FD are crap!

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:30 PM
The polls don't lie. No money owed. ;)

It just shows what a pile of **** you are. You got a bye. Its a popularity contest on AGS apparently.
You lost the ****ing bet and didn't pay, you know that and I know that.
Karma mother****er, expect it.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 08:31 PM
It just shows what a pile of **** you are. You got a bye. Its a popularity contest on AGS apparently.
You lost the ****ing bet and didn't pay, you know that and I know that.
Karma mother****er, expect it.

There was no bet to lose. I love your whiny posts. It's a nice treat every week.

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:32 PM
Referencing the video board at UNI. I really liked their new one. The small, 4 corners video boards in the FD are crap!

Video boards? Really? Go to bed and let the adults talk.

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:33 PM
There was no bet to lose. I love your whiny posts. It's a nice treat every week.

You made the bet, we both know it. You are a bitch. We both know it. You lost and wont pay, its cool. Karma will pay you back soon enough.

PantherRob82
October 11th, 2015, 08:40 PM
You made the bet, we both know it. You are a bitch. We both know it. You lost and wont pay, its cool. Karma will pay you back soon enough.

Karma and I are good friends, too. Just another popularity contest you lost.

- - - Updated - - -


Video boards? Really? Go to bed and let the adults talk.

Go figure that would be his point since that was what he was talking about. xrolleyesx

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 08:42 PM
Video boards? Really? Go to bed and let the adults talk.

Your bull**** is getting old little man.

Dumbass

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:46 PM
Your bull**** is getting old little man.

Dumbass
Little man? Lol... Dont be so cavalier.

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 08:47 PM
Got that $$ that you owe me? I will take EBT.


Ill pay the bet to shut your dumbass up. Where you at in the tailgate on Saturday?

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:49 PM
Ill pay the bet to shut your dumbass up. Where you at in the tailgate on Saturday?
PM Me your address I will come there right now.

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 08:50 PM
PM Me your address I will come there right now.

PM?

Why?

400 NP Drive SW Fertile MN

Frickin pussy

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 08:53 PM
PM?

Why?

400 NP Drive SW Fertile MN

Frickin pussy

Try again... Real address this time.

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 08:55 PM
Try again... Real address this time.


That is my address. Too stupid to find it?


PM Laker....he has been here. He'll confirm it.

PM Ursus....that is my address. He'll confirm it.

NDSUSR
October 11th, 2015, 09:02 PM
That is my address. Too stupid to find it?


PM Laker....he has been here. He'll confirm it.

PM Ursus....that is my address. He'll confirm it.
Google maps shows a tree so nice trailer you live in.

No hard feelings, all is well. Wish you the best.

Bison Fan in NW MN
October 11th, 2015, 09:03 PM
Google maps shows a tree so nice trailer you live in.

No hard feelings, all is well. Wish you the best.


LOL...you are a dumbass.

I'll pay PantherRobs bet....where are you in the tailgate?

I'm bringing honey to some Bisonvillers and others, I'll stop by and pay whatever PR owes! Well worth it to shut you up about it.

IBleedYellow
October 11th, 2015, 09:55 PM
I'm almost 100% certain NDSU knocked Kollmorgen out of this game, however it wasn't the late hit out of bounds...it was the play before that.

On the Bison Football Show with Christ Klieman they show good angles of both plays, and the late hit isn't a terribly hard hit, but the one previously was a very hard hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kviVDNN3VxE&list=PL8wBnMvewAnby2xTpNA-KRd97j54XOCZe&index=1

The hits are in the 4th minute of the show. Really wish Sawyer a quick recovery and no future problems in life. Poor guy works his butt off and I have lots of respect for him.

Bisonoline
October 11th, 2015, 10:39 PM
LOL...you are a dumbass.

I'll pay PantherRobs bet....where are you in the tailgate?

I'm bringing honey to some Bisonvillers and others, I'll stop by and pay whatever PR owes! Well worth it to shut you up about it.

His ole lady must of kicked the crap out of him again. Every time she does he has to flex his key board muscles to make himself feel better. LOL. He pulled the same crap over at BV one night.

Missingnumber7
October 11th, 2015, 11:00 PM
A player is now disqualified on their second unsportsmanlike conduct foul of the game. New from the NCAA in 2015.

Not new in 15, that has always been in place. It is something that Referees have been encouraged to announce now.

Twentysix
October 11th, 2015, 11:21 PM
I'm almost 100% certain NDSU knocked Kollmorgen out of this game, however it wasn't the late hit out of bounds...it was the play before that.

On the Bison Football Show with Christ Klieman they show good angles of both plays, and the late hit isn't a terribly hard hit, but the one previously was a very hard hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kviVDNN3VxE&list=PL8wBnMvewAnby2xTpNA-KRd97j54XOCZe&index=1

The hits are in the 4th minute of the show. Really wish Sawyer a quick recovery and no future problems in life. Poor guy works his butt off and I have lots of respect for him.


Is that video jittery and laggy as hell for anyone else? Does VNL do their video processing on a 1996 cellphone?

IBleedYellow
October 11th, 2015, 11:44 PM
Is that video jittery and laggy as hell for anyone else? Does VNL do their video processing on a 1996 cellphone?

Holy crap. Yeah. The previous version I had posted wasn't terrible quality like this.

BisonTru
October 11th, 2015, 11:46 PM
Is that video jittery and laggy as hell for anyone else? Does VNL do their video processing on a 1996 cellphone?

Yes. I usually watch it online most weeks and it is just fine. Not sure what happened this week.

Professor Chaos
October 12th, 2015, 08:53 AM
I'm almost 100% certain NDSU knocked Kollmorgen out of this game, however it wasn't the late hit out of bounds...it was the play before that.

Yeah, I didn't realize it either until the coach's show Sunday morning but when I watched the DVR of the game the anouncers even called that it out that he had likely suffered the concussion a few plays before the end of their drive before the half.

Klieman said on his coach's show that this is Kollmorgen's 3rd concussion so it's definitely gotta be a area of concern for UNI. Even assuming he's back fairly soon, to run that offense with a QB who may be one concussion away from the end of his career is a gamble. I hope for the best for him, from what I've heard from our resident Panther posters he's gotten the shaft of a few questionable personnel decisions by the coaching staff that's really put a ton of speedbumps in a promising career yet the kid himself has never complained or even talked about transferring as far as I know.

UNIFanSince1983
October 12th, 2015, 08:57 AM
Yeah I saw that hit to his head, and was actually surprised they let him stay on the field after that one anyway. I had to leave and was sort of watching on my phone so I didn't realize that when Bailey was in, in the second half that it was because Kollmorgen couldn't go. I just thought it was another one of those decisions by Farley and crew that make you scratch your head.

Hoping for the best, but we will have to see since it is his 3rd. I think it is his 2nd in a game against the Bison too.

PantherRob82
October 12th, 2015, 08:58 AM
Yeah I saw that hit to his head, and was actually surprised they let him stay on the field after that one anyway. I had to leave and was sort of watching on my phone so I didn't realize that when Bailey was in, in the second half that it was because Kollmorgen couldn't go. I just thought it was another one of those decisions by Farley and crew that make you scratch your head.

Hoping for the best, but we will have to see since it is his 3rd. I think it is his 2nd in a game against the Bison too.

I actually commented on it in this thread during the game. But the plays after he looked fine. plenty of time to go downhill during halftime though.

UNIFanSince1983
October 12th, 2015, 09:10 AM
I actually commented on it in this thread during the game. But the plays after he looked fine. plenty of time to go downhill during halftime though.

Yeah exactly. I was like that hit didn't look good, but he stayed out there and looked fine. That is why I was so confused when they put Bailey in to start the second half. And I couldn't hear the announcers so I was even more confused by why Farley would go with Bailey after Kollmorgen had played pretty well.

PantherRob82
October 12th, 2015, 09:21 AM
Yeah exactly. I was like that hit didn't look good, but he stayed out there and looked fine. That is why I was so confused when they put Bailey in to start the second half. And I couldn't hear the announcers so I was even more confused by why Farley would go with Bailey after Kollmorgen had played pretty well.

Same here. If Sawyer is bad, I hope he hangs it up for his sake. Concussions really take their toll.

Bison56
October 12th, 2015, 10:28 AM
PM Me your address I will come there right now.

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gregatim
October 12th, 2015, 02:25 PM
Yeah exactly. I was like that hit didn't look good, but he stayed out there and looked fine. That is why I was so confused when they put Bailey in to start the second half. And I couldn't hear the announcers so I was even more confused by why Farley would go with Bailey after Kollmorgen had played pretty well.

It took the crack commentators for the game until the 4th quarter to figure that one out and finally report he was out due to the concussion. You just have to feel awful for the kid.

Herder
October 12th, 2015, 02:30 PM
It took the crack commentators for the game until the 4th quarter to figure that one out and finally report he was out due to the concussion. You just have to feel awful for the kid.

Sorry, but you MUST go into a feet first slide anytime to tuck it . . . . if you are a hit away like we know this guy is.