New Black College All-Star Game

[smallcollegefbfan]

It is called the Motherland Classic and it will be played in Africa. There are some major names like Gil Brandt helping out but don't you all think the very top players from these leagues are heading to the Senior, Shrine, Vegas, etc. anyway?

Here is the link for those interested.

http://www.onnidan.com/bcsp/1315/stry13152.htm

[TexasTerror]

Two things...

Baltimore Ravens fullback, Ovie Mughelli, one of 43 players from Africa playing in the NFL, is also supporting the game.

I didn't realize there were that many players from Africa. The NFL has made major inroads around the world and I'm glad to see this!

Watkins says he is in the process of presenting a plan for a national championship game to the commissioners of the CIAA, SIAC, MEAC and SWAC.

"Our goal is to see how to maneuver a system where the championship will be settled on the field,'' Watkins says, acknowledging that he will have to navigate his way through "an extensive NCAA legislative process'' to gain approval for a championship game. The first and foremost issue is multiple divisions. It would be considerably easier if it were SWAC and MEAC. There is more than enough opportunity for everybody to participate, and if we do it smartly, everyone can benefit.'' Watkins says he is in the process of presenting a plan for a national championship game to the commissioners of the CIAA, SIAC, MEAC and SWAC.

"Our goal is to see how to maneuver a system where the championship will be settled on the field,'' Watkins says, acknowledging that he will have to navigate his way through "an extensive NCAA legislative process'' to gain approval for a championship game. The first and foremost issue is multiple divisions. It would be considerably easier if it were SWAC and MEAC. There is more than enough opportunity for everybody to participate, and if we do it smartly, everyone can benefit.''

Here we go again...I really hope this is avoided because it would just hurt these schools, namely the MEAC, who is making an amazing effort at competing at the FCS level, if they have to stop competing in the playoffs and competing 'in-house' against one of the lowest-ranked conferences in all of FCS

[CCU97]

Two things...

Baltimore Ravens fullback, Ovie Mughelli, one of 43 players from Africa playing in the NFL, is also supporting the game.

I didn't realize there were that many players from Africa. The NFL has made major inroads around the world and I'm glad to see this!

Watkins says he is in the process of presenting a plan for a national championship game to the commissioners of the CIAA, SIAC, MEAC and SWAC.

"Our goal is to see how to maneuver a system where the championship will be settled on the field,'' Watkins says, acknowledging that he will have to navigate his way through "an extensive NCAA legislative process'' to gain approval for a championship game. The first and foremost issue is multiple divisions. It would be considerably easier if it were SWAC and MEAC. There is more than enough opportunity for everybody to participate, and if we do it smartly, everyone can benefit.'' Watkins says he is in the process of presenting a plan for a national championship game to the commissioners of the CIAA, SIAC, MEAC and SWAC.

"Our goal is to see how to maneuver a system where the championship will be settled on the field,'' Watkins says, acknowledging that he will have to navigate his way through "an extensive NCAA legislative process'' to gain approval for a championship game. The first and foremost issue is multiple divisions. It would be considerably easier if it were SWAC and MEAC. There is more than enough opportunity for everybody to participate, and if we do it smartly, everyone can benefit.''

Here we go again...I really hope this is avoided because it would just hurt these schools, namely the MEAC, who is making an amazing effort at competing at the FCS level, if they have to stop competing in the playoffs and competing 'in-house' against one of the lowest-ranked conferences in all of FCS

One thing people should know about Ovie Mughelli, he is a great person! His father and mother are from Africa but he grew up in Charleston, SC. He still has strong ties to Africa as well as the rest of his family. I got to know his father when Ovie was at Wake and my former wife was pregnant. His father was the first to call me and ask if I needed anything when they both passed away in a car accident. Truly a great family!

As for the game....why? would it bring more scouts to watch players? would it prove they can compete? The only thing I see this doing is dividing people...it comes across as an us vs. them type thing....no need to divide...allow the game to be played on one field and not many! If you don't want to play in FCS....create a new division to where schools who don't want to play post season, or have their own championship can join...:twocents:

[HIU 93]

As for the game....why? would it bring more scouts to watch players? would it prove they can compete? The only thing I see this doing is dividing people...it comes across as an us vs. them type thing....no need to divide...allow the game to be played on one field and not many! If you don't want to play in FCS....create a new division to where schools who don't want to play post season, or have their own championship can join...:twocents:

Why? It is an attempt to spread the good news about HBCUs to Africa. It is another link to the "motherland" for those of African decent.

[MACHIAVELLI]

As for the game....why? would it bring more scouts to watch players? would it prove they can compete? The only thing I see this doing is dividing people...it comes across as an us vs. them type thing....no need to divide...allow the game to be played on one field and not many! If you don't want to play in FCS....create a new division to where schools who don't want to play post season, or have their own championship can join...:twocents:


Do you think D1AA (or whatever it is called now) is well represented when it comes to these current/former all star games East/West, North/South, Blue/Gray, Las Vegas. These games divide. And give that don't want to play in the FCS crap alone. It is not even relevant.

BTW I believe the game has been cancelled.

[TexasTerror]

In all reality, the Motherland Classic would not even have many of the top tier HBCU players that want to go to the NFL...

Players are limited on how many All-Star games they can appear in. Would a player really want to go to Africa, where the NFL scouts will probably not trek to or would they rather go to another game? The top-tier HBCU players will get invited to those other games and even in the case of Bruce Eugene, will decline invitation to get his act together in order to put a last-ditch effort to get in shape, like they would any other All-Star Game...

[appmountaineermaniac]

I have seen enough and must comment. If there was an All White College All Star Game or a Miss America with no diversity the NAACP and blakc community would say it was racism. But there can be a seperate Miss Black America in which a white women cant enter and a Black College All Star Game. This is out of hand, what happened to the idea of equality. Same with the whole affirmative action deal, minorities wanted equality, to bad that only gives them an edge in the admission process for college.

[MACHIAVELLI]

I have seen enough and must comment. If there was an All White College All Star Game or a Miss America with no diversity the NAACP and blakc community would say it was racism. But there can be a seperate Miss Black America in which a white women cant enter and a Black College All Star Game. This is out of hand, what happened to the idea of equality. Same with the whole affirmative action deal, minorities wanted equality, to bad that only gives them an edge in the admission process for college.

There are white players who attend HBCU's that can take part in the game.

[MACHIAVELLI]

In all reality, the Motherland Classic would not even have many of the top tier HBCU players that want to go to the NFL...

Players are limited on how many All-Star games they can appear in. Would a player really want to go to Africa, where the NFL scouts will probably not trek to or would they rather go to another game?.

How many HBCU players are getting invited to multiple all star games anyway? How many D1AA for that matter? The fact is that most of these all star games are competing for the top players themselves. That is why the small schools get pushed out and a need to start diverse/smaller college all star games. There is not enough all star games if you ask me. Most big all star games started small and grew.

[appmountaineermaniac]

Ok well if thats the case then there doesnt need to be an All Star game called the black college one, that singles out colleges that arent predominately black which is absurd. Since it is proven every year in the Iaa playoffs that the representative from the MEAC is a joke. Hampton always comes in with 0 or 1 lose and then loses first round when they usually get ranked for the seeding. I highly doubt making a game in Africa will attract lots of scouts willing to go all the way to Africa.

[smallcollegefbfan]

Why? It is an attempt to spread the good news about HBCUs to Africa. It is another link to the "motherland" for those of African decent.

Any legit player won't go though. Very few, if any scouts will fly all the way out there to Africa. They will just ask for tapes. Might as well hold an HBCU workout separate for those kids invited here in the US so the scouts can actually show up.

[MACHIAVELLI]

Ok well if thats the case then there doesnt need to be an All Star game called the black college one, that singles out colleges that arent predominately black which is absurd. Since it is proven every year in the Iaa playoffs that the representative from the MEAC is a joke. Hampton always comes in with 0 or 1 lose and then loses first round when they usually get ranked for the seeding. I highly doubt making a game in Africa will attract lots of scouts willing to go all the way to Africa.

I wouldn't expect you to understand. I am still trying to figure out what a black college all star game has to do with Iaa playoffs.

[MACHIAVELLI]

Any legit player won't go though. Very few, if any scouts will fly all the way out there to Africa. They will just ask for tapes. Might as well hold an HBCU workout separate for those kids invited here in the US so the scouts can actually show up.

What if a legit player is sitting at home and hasn't been invited to any other all star games?

[lizrdgizrd]

What if some HBCU players just wanted the chance to play another football game and take a trip to Africa at the same time? Sounds like fun to me!

[smallcollegefbfan]

What if a legit player is sitting at home and hasn't been invited to any other all star games?

I think it is sad these days because there are so many chances. You have too many games as it is:

Senior Bowl
Hula Bowl
Shrine Game
LVAAC
Magnolia
North-South
Texas vs. Nation
East Coast Bowl
Aztec Bowl
Cactus Bowl will be back next year.

That is a lot of games.

I see what you are saying but NFL scouts will not go to Africa. They will want the results, but by not being there they wll not get to see them up close, interview them or anything like that.

Personally I think it is a good idea if they can get the top players to commit. There are hardly ever more than 25 players who get a shot from HBCU schools in on year, or it does not seem like it.

The top 10-15 will be in the games mentioned above. The others have their pro day and private workouts with teams.

I just hope that this game is not created with people depending on it and it folds soon.

I wish it well, just worried it will fold.

[MACHIAVELLI]

I think it is sad these days because there are so many chances. You have too many games as it is:

Senior Bowl
Hula Bowl
Shrine Game
LVAAC
Magnolia
North-South
Texas vs. Nation
East Coast Bowl
Aztec Bowl
Cactus Bowl will be back next year.

That is a lot of games.


last years LVAAC roster
EAST
Jersey Number Position Player Height/Weight School

#17 QB Kent Smith 6’5 / 218 Central Michigan
#14 QB Brett Basanez 6’2 / 216 Northwestern
#8 QB Tyler Emmert 6’2 / 204 Carroll College
#30 RB Chris Taylor 5’11 / 215 Indiana
#32 RB Shelton Sampson 5’11 / 232 Northwestern State
#28 RB Chris Barclay 5’10 / 180 Wake Forest
#36 FB James Coleman 6’ / 260 Florida State
#23 FB Quadtrine Hill 6’2 / 228 Miami
#89 TE Matt Henshaw 6’5 / 250 Florida State
#84 TE Darcy Johnson 6’5 / 252 Central Florida
#76 LT Dennis Roland 6’9 / 315 Georgia
#79 LT Isaac Sowells 6’3 / 334 Indiana
#66 LG Troy Reddick 6’4 / 325 Auburn
#65 LG Will Montgomery 6’3 / 307 Virginia Tech
#50 C Chris McNeil 6’3 / 300 Mississippi State
#63 C David Castillo 6’2 / 304 Florida State
#74 RG Chad Motte 6’4 / 303 Georgia Southern
#73 RG Jahri Evans 6’4 / 335 Bloomsburg
#69 RT Quinn Ojinnaka 6’5 / 292 Syracuse
#77 RT Richard Burch 6’5 / 320 Mississippi Valley State
#2 WR Erik Davis 6’2 / 190 Vanderbilt
#87 WR Mario Hill 6’ / 195 Ole’ Miss
#81 WR Steve Sanders 6’3 / 205 Bowling Green State
#1 WR Charles Sharon 6’1 / 181 Bowling Green State
#13 WR/KR Toby Zeigler 6’ / 198 Northwestern State
#19 WR Daniel Rumley 6’5 / 218 Murray State
#6 K/P Jake Hendy 6’4 / 220 Temple
#91 DE Thomas Carroll 6’4 / 240 Miami
#90 DE Darrell Adams 6’4 / 270 Villanova
#56 DE Willie Evans 6’2 / 260 Mississippi State
#42 DE Brandon Guillory 6’4 / 250 Louisiana-Monroe
#99 DE/OLB Pierre Woods 6’5 / 249 Michigan
#98 DT Steven Williams 6’3 / 302 Northwestern Missouri State
#92 DT Jeff Littlejohn 6’2 / 318 Middle Tennessee State
#95 DT Darrius Swain 6’3 / 330 Georgia
#72 DT Micheal Bozeman 6’1 / 295 Ole’ Miss
#11 WLB Moses Osemwegie 6’ / 230 Vanderbilt
#52 WLB William Freeman 6’2 / 240 Furman
#41 MLB Tim Goodwell 6’1 / 229 Memphis
#33 MLB Anthony Cannon 6’ / 229 Tulane
#44 SLB Leon Williams 6’3 / 248 Miami
#39 SLB Bobby Iwuchukwu 6’2 / 248 Purdue
#9 CB Marques Binns 6’1 / 190 Grambling State
#24 CB Stephen Cason 5’10 / 210 William & Mary
#31 CB Sean Lucas 5’11 / 202 Tulane
#4 CB Kevin Dockery 5’9 / 185 Mississippi State
#5 FS Greg Threat 6’1 / 200 Miami
#3 FS Antwan Marsh 6’3 / 225 Pikeville College
#22 FS/CB Darren Williams 6’3 / 207 Jacksonville State
#18 SS Tra Boger 5’11 / 210 Tulane
#34 SS Eric Smith 6’ / 203 Michigan State

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WEST
Jersey Number Position Player Height/Weight School
#5 QB Brett Elliott 6’3 / 210 Linfield
#7 QB David Koral 6’3 / 220 UCLA
#8 QB Justin Holland 6’3 / 210 Colorado State
#17 QB Corey Bramlet 6’4 / 215 Wyoming
#20 RB Bryson Sumlin 5’10 / 205 Fresno State
#23 RB Joe Rubin 5’11 / 225 Portland State
#19 RB J.R. Lemon 6’1 / 225 Stanford
#21 RB John David Washington 5’10 / 200 Morehouse
#34 FB Naufahu Tahi 6’ / 250 BYU
#88 TE Daniel Fells 6’4 / 250 Cal Davis
#45 TE Quinn Sypniewski 6’7 / 263 Colorado
#79 LT Terrance Pennington 6’7 / 325 New Mexico
#78 LT Paul McQuistan 6’6 / 315 Weber State
#64 LG Jeff Bolton 6’4 / 310 Montana State
#70 LG Kelvin Chaisson 6’4 / 305 Oklahoma
#65 C Brian Van Acker 6’4 / 295 Northern Illinois
#50 C Jasper Harvey 6’3 / 295 San Diego State
#76 RG Aldo De La Garza 6’3 / 324 Texas A&M
#68 RG Nick Cole 6’1 / 340 New Mexico State
#69 RT Robin Meadow 6’5 / 300 Washington
#73 RT Clint O’Neal 6’6 / 310 Colorado
#18 WR Chris Denney 6’3 / 220 Nebraska-Omaha
#81 WR Delanie Walker 6’2 / 230 Central Missouri State
#32 WR Eric Kimble 6’ / 204 Eastern Washington
#9 WR Jovon Bouknight 6’2 / 195 Wyoming
#1 WR Troy Bergeron 6’2 / 195 AFL-Georgia Force
#80 WR Bill Sampy 6’1 / 190 Louisiana-Lafayette
#14 WR Adam Hannula 6’2 / 200 San Diego
#12 K/P Chet Ervin 6’3 / 195 Cincinnati
#67 DE Brady Fosmark 6’2 / 260 Weber State
#93 DE Roderkus Wright 6’6 / 275 Grossmout College/Oregon
#95 DE Copeland Bryan 6’4 / 245 Arizona
#56 DE Adam Roberts 6’2 / 260 Cincinnati
#98 DT Vince Feula 6’1 / 300 BYU
#92 DT Alvin Smith 6’3 / 305 Oregon State
#66 DT Nick Leaders 6’2 / 290 Iowa State
#99 DT Alex Guerrero 6’1 / 295 Boise State
#96 DT LaJuan Ramsey 6’6 / 272 USC
#47 WLB Nick Reid 6’4 / 230 Kansas
#58 WLB Freddy Keiaho 6’ / 230 San Diego State
#28 WLB Manny Sanchez 6’2 / 220 Fresno State
#52 MLB Courtney Jones 6’1 / 237 Colorado State
#42 MLB Jimmy Cottrell 6’1 / 240 New Mexico State
#44 SLB Tim Dobbins 6’1 / 247 Iowa State
#51 SLB Valentine Chude 6’2 / 250 Western New Mexico
#24 CB LeMarcus Hicks 6’1 / 195 Iowa State
#6 CB Antonio Thomas 6’2 / 195 Western Kentucky
#4 CB Cletis Gordon 6’2 / 195 Jackson State
#13 CB Mike Davis 6’3 / 185 Arizona State
#3 FS Reed Doughty 6’1 / 210 Northern Colorado
#22 FS Joe Miklos 6’1 / 205 UNLV
#33 SS Jarrad Page 6’2 / 228 UCLA
# 2 SS Chris Reis 6’ / 216 Georgia Tech

How many D1AA's and how many D1AA conferences represented?

[smallcollegefbfan]

last years LVAAC roster
EAST
Jersey Number Position Player Height/Weight School

#17 QB Kent Smith 6’5 / 218 Central Michigan
#14 QB Brett Basanez 6’2 / 216 Northwestern
#8 QB Tyler Emmert 6’2 / 204 Carroll College
#30 RB Chris Taylor 5’11 / 215 Indiana
#32 RB Shelton Sampson 5’11 / 232 Northwestern State
#28 RB Chris Barclay 5’10 / 180 Wake Forest
#36 FB James Coleman 6’ / 260 Florida State
#23 FB Quadtrine Hill 6’2 / 228 Miami
#89 TE Matt Henshaw 6’5 / 250 Florida State
#84 TE Darcy Johnson 6’5 / 252 Central Florida
#76 LT Dennis Roland 6’9 / 315 Georgia
#79 LT Isaac Sowells 6’3 / 334 Indiana
#66 LG Troy Reddick 6’4 / 325 Auburn
#65 LG Will Montgomery 6’3 / 307 Virginia Tech
#50 C Chris McNeil 6’3 / 300 Mississippi State
#63 C David Castillo 6’2 / 304 Florida State
#74 RG Chad Motte 6’4 / 303 Georgia Southern
#73 RG Jahri Evans 6’4 / 335 Bloomsburg
#69 RT Quinn Ojinnaka 6’5 / 292 Syracuse
#77 RT Richard Burch 6’5 / 320 Mississippi Valley State
#2 WR Erik Davis 6’2 / 190 Vanderbilt
#87 WR Mario Hill 6’ / 195 Ole’ Miss
#81 WR Steve Sanders 6’3 / 205 Bowling Green State
#1 WR Charles Sharon 6’1 / 181 Bowling Green State
#13 WR/KR Toby Zeigler 6’ / 198 Northwestern State
#19 WR Daniel Rumley 6’5 / 218 Murray State
#6 K/P Jake Hendy 6’4 / 220 Temple
#91 DE Thomas Carroll 6’4 / 240 Miami
#90 DE Darrell Adams 6’4 / 270 Villanova
#56 DE Willie Evans 6’2 / 260 Mississippi State
#42 DE Brandon Guillory 6’4 / 250 Louisiana-Monroe
#99 DE/OLB Pierre Woods 6’5 / 249 Michigan
#98 DT Steven Williams 6’3 / 302 Northwestern Missouri State
#92 DT Jeff Littlejohn 6’2 / 318 Middle Tennessee State
#95 DT Darrius Swain 6’3 / 330 Georgia
#72 DT Micheal Bozeman 6’1 / 295 Ole’ Miss
#11 WLB Moses Osemwegie 6’ / 230 Vanderbilt
#52 WLB William Freeman 6’2 / 240 Furman
#41 MLB Tim Goodwell 6’1 / 229 Memphis
#33 MLB Anthony Cannon 6’ / 229 Tulane
#44 SLB Leon Williams 6’3 / 248 Miami
#39 SLB Bobby Iwuchukwu 6’2 / 248 Purdue
#9 CB Marques Binns 6’1 / 190 Grambling State
#24 CB Stephen Cason 5’10 / 210 William & Mary
#31 CB Sean Lucas 5’11 / 202 Tulane
#4 CB Kevin Dockery 5’9 / 185 Mississippi State
#5 FS Greg Threat 6’1 / 200 Miami
#3 FS Antwan Marsh 6’3 / 225 Pikeville College
#22 FS/CB Darren Williams 6’3 / 207 Jacksonville State
#18 SS Tra Boger 5’11 / 210 Tulane
#34 SS Eric Smith 6’ / 203 Michigan State

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WEST
Jersey Number Position Player Height/Weight School
#5 QB Brett Elliott 6’3 / 210 Linfield
#7 QB David Koral 6’3 / 220 UCLA
#8 QB Justin Holland 6’3 / 210 Colorado State
#17 QB Corey Bramlet 6’4 / 215 Wyoming
#20 RB Bryson Sumlin 5’10 / 205 Fresno State
#23 RB Joe Rubin 5’11 / 225 Portland State
#19 RB J.R. Lemon 6’1 / 225 Stanford
#21 RB John David Washington 5’10 / 200 Morehouse
#34 FB Naufahu Tahi 6’ / 250 BYU
#88 TE Daniel Fells 6’4 / 250 Cal Davis
#45 TE Quinn Sypniewski 6’7 / 263 Colorado
#79 LT Terrance Pennington 6’7 / 325 New Mexico
#78 LT Paul McQuistan 6’6 / 315 Weber State
#64 LG Jeff Bolton 6’4 / 310 Montana State
#70 LG Kelvin Chaisson 6’4 / 305 Oklahoma
#65 C Brian Van Acker 6’4 / 295 Northern Illinois
#50 C Jasper Harvey 6’3 / 295 San Diego State
#76 RG Aldo De La Garza 6’3 / 324 Texas A&M
#68 RG Nick Cole 6’1 / 340 New Mexico State
#69 RT Robin Meadow 6’5 / 300 Washington
#73 RT Clint O’Neal 6’6 / 310 Colorado
#18 WR Chris Denney 6’3 / 220 Nebraska-Omaha
#81 WR Delanie Walker 6’2 / 230 Central Missouri State
#32 WR Eric Kimble 6’ / 204 Eastern Washington
#9 WR Jovon Bouknight 6’2 / 195 Wyoming
#1 WR Troy Bergeron 6’2 / 195 AFL-Georgia Force
#80 WR Bill Sampy 6’1 / 190 Louisiana-Lafayette
#14 WR Adam Hannula 6’2 / 200 San Diego
#12 K/P Chet Ervin 6’3 / 195 Cincinnati
#67 DE Brady Fosmark 6’2 / 260 Weber State
#93 DE Roderkus Wright 6’6 / 275 Grossmout College/Oregon
#95 DE Copeland Bryan 6’4 / 245 Arizona
#56 DE Adam Roberts 6’2 / 260 Cincinnati
#98 DT Vince Feula 6’1 / 300 BYU
#92 DT Alvin Smith 6’3 / 305 Oregon State
#66 DT Nick Leaders 6’2 / 290 Iowa State
#99 DT Alex Guerrero 6’1 / 295 Boise State
#96 DT LaJuan Ramsey 6’6 / 272 USC
#47 WLB Nick Reid 6’4 / 230 Kansas
#58 WLB Freddy Keiaho 6’ / 230 San Diego State
#28 WLB Manny Sanchez 6’2 / 220 Fresno State
#52 MLB Courtney Jones 6’1 / 237 Colorado State
#42 MLB Jimmy Cottrell 6’1 / 240 New Mexico State
#44 SLB Tim Dobbins 6’1 / 247 Iowa State
#51 SLB Valentine Chude 6’2 / 250 Western New Mexico
#24 CB LeMarcus Hicks 6’1 / 195 Iowa State
#6 CB Antonio Thomas 6’2 / 195 Western Kentucky
#4 CB Cletis Gordon 6’2 / 195 Jackson State
#13 CB Mike Davis 6’3 / 185 Arizona State
#3 FS Reed Doughty 6’1 / 210 Northern Colorado
#22 FS Joe Miklos 6’1 / 205 UNLV
#33 SS Jarrad Page 6’2 / 228 UCLA
# 2 SS Chris Reis 6’ / 216 Georgia Tech

How many D1AA's and how many D1AA conferences represented?

About 19. The Hula will have 10-15 at least. The Magnolia will have about 40 or so. Then you have the Senior Bowl and Shrine who will have about 5-8 combined. Add in the East Coast which had about 20 or more and you have over 70 players who get a game. Around 20 or less get drafted and about 110 sign FA deals or get a tryout. Only about 20-35 will make a team. If games do it right they should not miss a player. You also have the combine who gets a few guys the all-star games miss.

The idea of this game is good, however, you know that the top 30-40 guys each year will have a game to play in or attend the combine.

[TexasTerror]

How many HBCU players are getting invited to multiple all star games anyway? How many D1AA for that matter? The fact is that most of these all star games are competing for the top players themselves. That is why the small schools get pushed out and a need to start diverse/smaller college all star games. There is not enough all star games if you ask me. Most big all star games started small and grew.

Eight isn't enough?!?!? All-Star Games are meant as a way to showcase talent for the NFL and to a lesser extent, CFL and Arena League. You have eight games, two teams of atleast 45-50. That's 800 players right there (if you don't include duplicates, which are limited due to folks being too careful)...

How many get drafted to the NFL? About 225...trust me, the guys who are wanting to get seen and deserve to get seen are. These All-Star Games don't prove too much...

East Coast Bowl
The East Coast Bowl is an annual college football All-Star game that features the most elite Division I-AA, II, III and NAIA college football players from across the Mid-Atlantic region. The game is held every year on the Saturday following Thanksgiving at Cameron Field in Petersburg, Virginia and is sponsored by the City of Petersburg and the National Football Foundation.
When: 11/25/06 Where: Petersburg, VA
Time: 12:00 Noon TV:

Magnolia Gridiron Classic
The Magnolia Grid Iron Classic is an innovative game concept that will allow prospects from Division I-A programs to participate in a contest against a small school roster comprised of Division I-AA, Division II and other players. It gives many non-bowl game seniors and smaller school players a final game to impress NFL teams.
When: 12/23/07 Where: Jackson, MS
Time: 12:00 PM Central TV: Local

North-South All-Star Classic
When: 01/13/07 Where: Houston, TX
Time: 11:00 AM TV: ESPN

Hula Bowl
The Cornerstone Bancard Hula Bowl is the perfect event to showcase talent and perform in front of professional football scouts from the Nation Football League. The game and practices are played in Aloha Stadium, home of the NFL Pro Bowl.
When: 01/14/07 Where: Maui, HI
Time: 8:30 PM EST TV: ESPN

Las Vegas All-American Classic
The Las Vegas All-American Classic is a bowl game designed to emulate that of the NFL's Pro Bowl and provides graduating seniors a chance to showcase their talents in front of professional scouts to prolong their football playing careers.
When: 01/15/07 Where: Las Vegas, NV
Time: 1:00 PM Pacific TV: NFL Network

East-West Shrine
The East West Shrine Game has never been "just another football game." The Shrine Game is the Premier All-Star Game in America, and has a long history of distinguished players and coaches.
When: 01/20/07 Where: Houston, TX
Time: 6:00 PM EST TV: ESPN

Senior Bowl
The Senior Bowl is the nation’s most unique football game and football’s premier pre-draft event, annually featuring the country’s best senior collegiate football players and top NFL draft prospects on teams representing the North and South.
When: 01/27/07 Where: Mobile, AL
Time: TBA TV: NFL Network

Texas vs. The Nation
The Texas vs. The Nation Game is a post-season college football all-star game that was established in 2006. The format of the game will pit a team of top-rated college seniors who played college or high school football in Texas against a squad of top-rated seniors from the rest of the nation. Seniors rated in the top 15 at their position by the NFL will be eligible to play in the game.
When: 02/02/07 Where: El Paso, TX
Time: 6:00 PM Mountain TV: CSTV

[PNeck19]

For those concerned about the scouts going to Africa, cheer up!

The players selected for the Motherland Classic will spend a week practicing and working out for scouts in Atlanta, Georgia, which is in the good ole USA!

After that, they'll fly down to Nigeria for 3-4 days for the game.

I also have a scenario for those of you concerned about too many games.

Most of these all-star games have a "watch list" that is compiled before the season begins. During the season, invitations are usually sent to guys on these lists.

Suppose a young man has had a solid, not great, college career through three seasons. Suppose also that this young man plays another position, but is not permitted to do so by his coach. Suppose that coach has no choice in this young man's senior season but to play this young man at both positions. This young man goes on to lead the nation statistically at this new position and make several All-American teams (but not all-conference...lol). Shouldn't he have a place to show his ability, even if other games have filled their rosters?

[HIU 93]

Any legit player won't go though. Very few, if any scouts will fly all the way out there to Africa. They will just ask for tapes. Might as well hold an HBCU workout separate for those kids invited here in the US so the scouts can actually show up.

Where in the MULTIPLE news stories about this game, or in my response did you see any mention of scouting? It doesn't matter if the "top tier" players aren't there. This is an opportunity, as I said before, about spreading the "good news" about HBCUs to the continent of Africa. It is about a connection to the "motherland" for Americans of African ancestry. That is why the game has been changed from an exhibition between two schools to an all star game. That way, NCAA rules about number of games and postseason games are not broken. Universities do not exist just to field football teams. This is an opportunity to expand into new and untapped markets for the universities. Football just happens to be the tool for that expansion.

[HIU 93]

I have seen enough and must comment. If there was an All White College All Star Game or a Miss America with no diversity the NAACP and blakc community would say it was racism. But there can be a seperate Miss Black America in which a white women cant enter and a Black College All Star Game. This is out of hand, what happened to the idea of equality. Same with the whole affirmative action deal, minorities wanted equality, to bad that only gives them an edge in the admission process for college.

You are a college student. You are a student at a fine university. I know you can do a little research before you make statements like the one above. In this day and age of technology, there is no reason you can't do some BASIC, elementary level research of American History and see why your argument is full of error.

[MACHIAVELLI]

Eight isn't enough?!?!? All-Star Games are meant as a way to showcase talent for the NFL and to a lesser extent, CFL and Arena League. You have eight games, two teams of atleast 45-50. That's 800 players right there (if you don't include duplicates, which are limited due to folks being too careful)...

How many get drafted to the NFL? About 225...trust me, the guys who are wanting to get seen and deserve to get seen are. These All-Star Games don't prove too much...



No eight isn't enough in my opinion. There are about 800 football players in one conference. How much playing time do players from the small schools get in the larger all star games? What can having another all star game hurt?

[TexasTerror]

No eight isn't enough in my opinion. There are about 800 football players in one conference. How much playing time do players from the small schools get in the larger all star games? What can having another all star game hurt?

We already have a few non-televised All-Star Games that don't even really get the attention of NFL scouts...

It's like adding more bowl games, which give us Sun Belt #2 vs MAC #5. Who cares?

[MACHIAVELLI]

We already have a few non-televised All-Star Games that don't even really get the attention of NFL scouts...

It's like adding more bowl games, which give us Sun Belt #2 vs MAC #5. Who cares?

How do you know they don't get the attention of the NFL scouts? What proof do you have? A scouts job is to scout, no matter where the talent is. BTW the NFL is not the only professional football being played.


"Who cares?" .....a player trying to get a shot, that's who cares.

[appmountaineermaniac]

HIU 93 what errors are there?

[MACHIAVELLI]

to bad that only gives them an edge in the admission process for college.

Yeah, it is too bad.

[HIU 93]

HIU 93 what errors are there?

The entire statement.

[GeauxColonels]

The entire statement.
As a college student/alumni/supporter, you should be able to identify the errors in the statement rather than just generalizing the entire statement. Any college professor would expect someone to specifically identify the faulty elements of a statement rather than just saying the person did no research. What research is that? What part of American History do you research to prove the vailidity of a Miss Black America as oppossed to a Miss White America, or a Miss Asian America?:twocents:

[MACHIAVELLI]

Football all-star game in Nigeria postponed
Game involving Hampton University players moves from Dec. 16 to Feb. 10
Marty O'Brien
Daily Press
December 7, 2006, 6:01 PM EST
HAMPTON -- Hampton University coaches and players invited to an all-star football game in Nigeria will wait almost two additional months before making the trip. Hampton coach Joe Taylor said Thursday that the inaugural Eddie Robinson Motherland Classic, originally scheduled for Abuja on Dec. 16, has been postponed to Feb. 10.

The game will feature 80 players from four conferences of Historically Black Colleges and Universities: the MEAC and CIAA versus the SWAC and SIAC. Taylor will coach one of the teams in the game and seven HU players have been invited to play in it.

http://community.meacfans.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5501054881/m/2441015303

[unknown-swac]

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[HIU 93]

As a college student/alumni/supporter, you should be able to identify the errors in the statement rather than just generalizing the entire statement. Any college professor would expect someone to specifically identify the faulty elements of a statement rather than just saying the person did no research. What research is that? What part of American History do you research to prove the vailidity of a Miss Black America as oppossed to a Miss White America, or a Miss Asian America?:twocents:

:twocents: - Just about all your argument and his are worth- but it's a slow day, so let the argument begin.

This was his statement-



I have seen enough and must comment. If there was an All White College All Star Game or a Miss America with no diversity the NAACP and blakc community would say it was racism. But there can be a seperate Miss Black America in which a white women cant enter and a Black College All Star Game. This is out of hand, what happened to the idea of equality. Same with the whole affirmative action deal, minorities wanted equality, to bad that only gives them an edge in the admission process for college.

1. All White College All Star Game- notice the statement says "White College" not "White Players", thus nullifying any further statement (from anyone) saying "there are Black players at those colleges". Any All-Star game that does not include HBCUs is an "All White College All Star Game". There are those that exist. No one from the "blakc community" (whatever that is) is complaining.

2. "But there can be a seperate Miss Black America..."- the Miss Black America contest, similar to HBCUs, came about at a time when the Miss America contest was, by written policy (and supported by written law) all white. Black folk were enterprising enough to form our own contest because we were not allowed to participate in the "American" one. We were not allowed to participate at an equal level in most things "American", because "Americans" didn't consider us "American". In order to have somewhat of an "American" experience, we had to form our own things. That is the validity of Miss Black America, HBCUs, historically Black fraternities and sororities, and any other historically Black organizations. Those Black organizations have never and do not now discriminate against anyone, however "Americans" like appmountaineermaniac call these organizations "racist" without ever bothering to remember BASIC American History. Now thats $2G added to your :twocents: . You're welcome!

[CCU97]

I think that there should be more small school all-star games period...not HBCUs and not "White Colleges". Small schools of any color don't get the exposure they deserve. I like the idea of HBCUs going over to the motherland to recruit future students. I believe that it will add to the experience at the schools. I just believe there are other ways besides American football to do it. The sport isn't very big in Africa compared to say soccer...why not send a soccer all-star team over and have them play a all-star team from the country they are in...it allows you to reach more people....win, lose, or draw...if the goal is to get students from Africa you would draw a larger crowd and their attention with soccer rather than American football since that is the sport they follow....Heck even a cease fire was in place for the World Cup...Football can't say it has ever stopped a war for any time...:eek: then again...that is just my :twocents:

[Jackluv]

this is retarded lol...its going to be SWAC 1st team offense vs. SWAC 2nd team defense hahah

who would want to see a colllege bowl game from africa?? no1

[MACHIAVELLI]

this is retarded lol...its going to be SWAC 1st team offense vs. SWAC 2nd team defense hahah

who would want to see a colllege bowl game from africa?? no1

Those who can't make it.

[MACHIAVELLI]

I think that there should be more small school all-star games period...not HBCUs and not "White Colleges". Small schools of any color don't get the exposure they deserve. I like the idea of HBCUs going over to the motherland to recruit future students. I believe that it will add to the experience at the schools. I just believe there are other ways besides American football to do it. The sport isn't very big in Africa compared to say soccer...why not send a soccer all-star team over and have them play a all-star team from the country they are in...it allows you to reach more people....win, lose, or draw...if the goal is to get students from Africa you would draw a larger crowd and their attention with soccer rather than American football since that is the sport they follow....Heck even a cease fire was in place for the World Cup...Football can't say it has ever stopped a war for any time...:eek: then again...that is just my :twocents:

30 years ago THE ICON played Morgan St. in Japan. What was the big sport in Japan 30 years ago?

[Smendy]

Anyone know if this game will played or not?

Looks like it's been canceled :eyebrow: