GDT: NDSU @ SDSU

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Hope the Bison keep King in the game. Young guys might turn it over,...

[gotts]

Lujan has looked absolutely atrocious tonight.

[Drblankstare]

Hell of a good ball from Lujan there

[centennial]

28-7 Turnover cost us

[frozennorth]

Sdsu coming out with some fire.

[Kemo]

Hell of a good ball from Lujan there
It's amazing how much better a QB looks when he has time.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Bison need to get a 1st down here. Keep the ball.

[centennial]

A few minute drive and we can call the game.

[Drblankstare]

It's amazing how much better a QB looks when he has time.

No doubt, Jacks O line hasn't done him a lot of favors tonight.

[IBleedYellow]

A few minute drive and we can call the game.

Instead they give it to SDSU. Defense better be lights out.

[IBleedYellow]

NDSU has given up about 2.25 Zenners so far.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Let's go offense....grind out a good drive!!

[centennial]

NDSU has given up about 2.25 Zenners so far.
Too many

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Too many


Tough crowd tonight!!

:Dxthumbsupx

[Bisonator]

Let's go offense....grind out a good drive!!

The run game still isn't where it needs to be. That's worrisome.

[centennial]

1st down.

[Bisonator]

JFC hang onto the damn ball!

[IBleedYellow]

F'ing kidding me?! HOLD ON THE THE DAMN BALL! HOLY ****!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Geez....hang on to the frickin ball

[centennial]

And we turn it over again. The ****.

[X-Factor]

SDSU oline getting crushed

[IBleedYellow]

This is one of the worst 4th quarters I've seen NDSU play in a long time.

[IBleedYellow]

This is just ugly. Flags flags flags.

[X-Factor]

This game needs to end

[TheKingpin28]

How many penalties can be thrown in one game?

[Bisonator]

This is one of the worst 4th quarters I've seen NDSU play in a long time.

It's getting ugly both ways. Need a running clock!

[centennial]

I hate the prevent offense BS, we struggle everytime we do this.

[BisonFan02]

Just ****ing finish the game NDSU.....I'm getting really sick of this **** out of the Bison this season.

[Bison56]

Well this game isn't close to what I expected.

[centennial]

Bison take over on downs.

[X-Factor]

A bit behind, but none the less..... 21410
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/03/ba42ab3d39c1224a2e51953a99a6dcb5.jpg

[gregatim]

This is one of the worst 4th quarters I've seen NDSU play in a long time.
At least since August anyway.

[BisonFan02]

Get Stick out there if they are going to go 100% vanilla and run the ball.

[Drblankstare]

I really thought the Jacks would have tried to do what Montana did. More spread, fast play. Bison D looks a hell of a lot better now though

[centennial]

Get Stick out there if they are going to go 100% vanilla and run the ball.
Exactly.

[BisonFan02]

I really wish.....just once....that the Bison would just flat out step on a teams dick and run up the score instead of running clock and punting...

[centennial]

I really wish.....just once....that the Bison would just flat out step on a teams dick and run up the score instead of running clock and punting...
If we didn't do it to UND...

[X-Factor]

Well, see ya in the 2nd round at the dome, SDSU

[Bison56]

Poor SDSU QB he will be sore in the morning.

[Twentysix]

Well, see ya in the 2nd round at the dome, SDSU

I wouldn't be surprised to see a UND @ SDSU round 1 with the winner going in round 2 to Fargo.

They (UND) can probably beat Weber, Idaho State, and Northern Colorado.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

WTF...make that catch CJ

[X-Factor]

That's why he is a DB

[centennial]

Bring in Stick

[BisonFan02]

Sloppy.......just run clock and don't even make them take another snap.

[Bison56]

I really wish.....just once....that the Bison would just flat out step on a teams dick and run up the score instead of running clock and punting...
Why?

[Bisonator]

The rock stays in Fargo!

Good game Jacks!

[X-Factor]

Jake Weineke - 3 for 39. SHUT DOWN. This is what happens when you play a defense with a backbone.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Great job by the defense!!!

Fumbles are worrisome....

[BisonFan02]

Why?

Because one of these times...in a 3 possession game...some fluky **** is going to happen and it'll end up biting NDSU in the ass. SDSU was only a few plays away from it actually becoming a game.

[Drblankstare]

Bison D really stepped up. Impressed

[BisonFan02]

-4 yards rushing for SDSU

[Bisonator]

SDSU had -1 Zenner rushing. :D

[Twentysix]

That was the worst 4th quarter I can remember. (though my memory is pretty short lol)

[IBleedYellow]

NDSU held the Rabbits to -4 rushing.

Is that a double Zenner?

[centennial]

SDSU had -1 Zenner rushing. :D
That's an appropriate amount of Zenner

[X-Factor]

I wouldn't be surprised to see a UND @ SDSU round 1 with the winner going in round 2 to Fargo.

They (UND) can probably beat Weber, Idaho State, and Northern Colorado.
Agree. That would be a good bet right now. SDSU likely has enough to make the playoffs, and UND has the favorable schedule

[BisonFan02]

That's an appropriate amount of Zenner

Yup.... -1 Zenner....on the field and in the locker room (and now with the Lions).

[penguinpower]

Score?

[BisonFan02]

Score?

28-7 Bison final

[PantherRob82]

28-7

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Impressive performance by the Bison! Solidified their #1 spot in my poll xthumbsupx

[Bison56]

Because one of these times...in a 3 possession game...some fluky **** is going to happen and it'll end up biting NDSU in the ass. SDSU was only a few plays away from it actually becoming a game.
Can't disagree with that.

[penguinpower]

Wow. Impressive

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Impressive performance by the Bison! Solidified their #1 spot in my poll xthumbsupx


You mean Coastal Carolina and that gauntlet of a schedule is not #1?

:D

[frozennorth]

This is one of the worst 4th quarters I've seen NDSU play in a long time.

I can say that about three of the last four

[IBleedYellow]

I can say that about three of the last four

This was worst than Montana. Much worse.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This was worst than Montana. Much worse.


Still got the win though!

[centennial]

You mean Coastal Carolina and that gauntlet of a schedule is not #1?

:D
This is same Coastal that barely beat WIU?

[mmiller_34]

The score was not indicative of how badly we got beat tonight. It was very disappointing as a jacks fan. Our crowd was pumped, louder than I have ever heard it. 8 minutes into the game we had nothing left to cheer for.

There re will be better days in the future for us Jacks fans. We are not as bad as we looked tonight. If NDSU plays like the way they played tonight they wil win another NC.

I'll be voting NDSU #1, dropping SDSU somewhere around #10

[veinup]

good lawad. congrats bison #1

[AmsterBison]

You could make a pretty awesome highlight tape from the first half of Bison games.

Carson Wentz is freaking awesome.

[centennial]

If we make the playoffs, I wish SDSU would get placed in the other group and we get Montana at home. Payback.

[veinup]

If we make the playoffs, I wish SDSU would get placed in the other group and we get Montana at home. Payback.

nope. nope. no. xsmhx

[IBleedYellow]

If we make the playoffs, I wish SDSU would get placed in the other group and we get Montana at home. Payback.

Ursus said NDSU and UM were going to play twice this year, and split the series. xthumbsupx

[BisonFan02]

This might deserve its own thread....

NDSU rushing yards allowed:

SDSU: -4
UND: 4
Weber: 53
Montana: 110

Sorry UNI....things are not trending well for you. :D

[X-Factor]

This might deserve its own thread....

NDSU rushing yards allowed:

SDSU: -4
UND: 4
Weber: 53
Montana: 110

Sorry UNI....things are not trending well for you. :D
The way Bailey played today I could easily see that trend continuing

[UNIFanSince1983]

This might deserve its own thread....

NDSU rushing yards allowed:

SDSU: -4
UND: 4
Weber: 53
Montana: 110

Sorry UNI....things are not trending well for you. :D

Oh don't worry things weren't trending well for us before those stats happened...

[Thumper 76]

The score was not indicative of how badly we got beat tonight. It was very disappointing as a jacks fan. Our crowd was pumped, louder than I have ever heard it. 8 minutes into the game we had nothing left to cheer for.

There re will be better days in the future for us Jacks fans. We are not as bad as we looked tonight. If NDSU plays like the way they played tonight they wil win another NC.

I'll be voting NDSU #1, dropping SDSU somewhere around #10

Disappointing? That was embarrassing. No top ten team lets their rival make them look like that in THEIR HOUSE IN FRONT OF A RECORD CROWD. This was a massive step backwards in building fan support IMHO. Just brutal. I don't get why we always **** the bed against the bison. Infuriating.

[Twentysix]

Disappointing? That was embarrassing. No top ten team lets their rival make them look like that in THEIR HOUSE IN FRONT OF A RECORD CROWD. This was a massive step backwards in building fan support IMHO. Just brutal. I don't get why we always **** the bed against the bison. Infuriating.

Part of it is because NDSU is really good...#justsaying

[Thumper 76]

Part of it is because NDSU is really good...#justsaying

No doubt, but we shouldn't get blown up that badly. That game was way worse than the score.

[IBleedYellow]

I'm trying to figure out if this shows NDSU's improvements or SDSU's lack of quality schedule. (SUU was good, though).

[PantherRob82]

This might deserve its own thread....

NDSU rushing yards allowed:

SDSU: -4
UND: 4
Weber: 53
Montana: 110

Sorry UNI....things are not trending well for you. :D

Farley is clearly so dedicated to the run that he will do whatever it takes to get more than -4 yards. :D

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Fargo is getting ESPN sportscenter next Saturday.

[dewey]

This might deserve its own thread....

NDSU rushing yards allowed:

SDSU: -1 Zenner
UND: 4
Weber: 53
Montana: 110

Sorry UNI....things are not trending well for you. :D

Dang it BF02! Get your statistics rightxthumbsupx

Dewey

[BisonFan02]

Dang it BF02! Get your statistics rightxthumbsupx

Dewey

You missed the positive Zenner for UND! :D xlolx

[dewey]

You missed the positive Zenner for UND! :D xlolx

I assumed the Zenner only applied to SDSU. Plus I actually like Zenner and associating with UN_ seemed wrong:D

The statistic to me was this one.
3rd down conversions
SDSU 2-14
NDSU 11-16

Dewey

[mango43]

After that performance, SDSU doesn't deserve to be ranked.

[thebootfitter]

After that performance, SDSU doesn't deserve to be ranked.
Nonsense. Maybe just not as highly. When two solid teams play and one happens to be more solid, it doesn't mean the other isn't solid. Just not as solid. Right?

Seriously, I think the Jacks will still do well enough to make the playoffs. Though the Valley is going to be a meat grinder again for sure.

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

After that performance, SDSU doesn't deserve to be ranked.


Not for me.

SDSU is still a good team IMO. NDSU just played really well for most of the game. Dang TOs for the Bison....:(

[mmiller_34]

Not for me.

SDSU is still a good team IMO. NDSU just played really well for most of the game. Dang TOs for the Bison....:(

Special teams at the beginning of the game. SDSU'S blunder putting them at the own 3 yard line their second drive of the game. Then NDSU'S ridiculous good special teams play to pin them down at SDSU'S own half yard line. Those two plays set the tone on how the rest of the night would go. We essentially had no opportunity to be creative on play calling since we were pinned down so much. It wasn't until the game was already won when we finally found some field position and we're able to move the ball (through the air).

NDSU made no mistakes in the first half.

[Kemo]

I assumed the Zenner only applied to SDSU. Plus I actually like Zenner and associating with UN_ seemed wrong:D

The statistic to me was this one.
3rd down conversions
SDSU 2-14
NDSU 11-16

Dewey
It just goes to show the difference between 3rd and 4 versus 3rd and 10.

[mmiller_34]

If Zenner gets some solid playing time tomorrow that will cheer me up

[PantherRob82]

Nonsense. Maybe just not as highly. When two solid teams play and one happens to be more solid, it doesn't mean the other isn't solid. Just not as solid. Right?

Seriously, I think the Jacks will still do well enough to make the playoffs. Though the Valley is going to be a meat grinder again for sure.

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What part of the Jacks game looked solid? Not saying they shouldn't be ranked, but nothing yesterday made me feel like they should be.

[mmiller_34]

What part of the Jacks game looked solid? Not saying they shouldn't be ranked, but nothing yesterday made me feel like they should be.

Nothing looked solid yesterday.

I guess our stadium Looked pretty solid. Loud for the first couple of Bison drives. Then everyone left by halftime -- I don't blame them either.

[Professor Chaos]

I think NDSU employed the same defensive strategy yesterday with Weineke that they have in past years with Zenner in that they do everything they can to take SDSU's offensive superstar out of the game and make someone else beat them. I think this game exposed once again how uncreative SDSU's offensive game plans have been in this series. We NDSU fans have given our OC plenty of grief this year but, if nothing else, he's been creative. I think SDSU's offensive staff better spend overtime in the film room this week cuz NDSU just gave every other team on SDSU's schedule the defensive blueprint for success.

Tough to find much to complain about from NDSU's perspective. Sloppy turnovers when trying to seal the game away were frustrating but with a QB like Wentz, as long as he stays healthy enough to be a dual threat, is going to be a nightmare matchup for any FCS defense.

[X-Factor]

I think NDSU employed the same defensive strategy yesterday with Weineke that they have in past years with Zenner in that they do everything they can to take SDSU's offensive superstar out of the game and make someone else beat them. I think this game exposed once again how uncreative SDSU's offensive game plans have been in this series. We NDSU fans have given our OC plenty of grief this year but, if nothing else, he's been creative. I think SDSU's offensive staff better spend overtime in the film room this week cuz NDSU just gave every other team on SDSU's schedule the defensive blueprint for success.

Tough to find much to complain about from NDSU's perspective. Sloppy turnovers when trying to seal the game away were frustrating but with a QB like Wentz, as long as he stays healthy enough to be a dual threat, is going to be a nightmare matchup for any FCS defense.

It seemed to me that NDSU didn't really do anything special with Weineke. They put CJ Smith on him and CJ pretty much shut him down without help. Although, tough to know for sure without being at the game. Camera likes to follow the QB.

[X-Factor]

After that performance, SDSU doesn't deserve to be ranked.
nonsense. It is hard enough finding enough misfit teams to fill out the 15-25 section of the poll without dropping SDSU. IMO, FCS talent drops off very quickly beyond the top 5 spots. SDSU is still top 10 as far as I am concerned, but they are on watch for sure. Next two games are key for the Jacks. I think they rebound.

[Professor Chaos]

It seemed to me that NDSU didn't really do anything special with Weineke. They put CJ Smith on him and CJ pretty much shut him down without help. Although, tough to know for sure without being at the game. Camera likes to follow the QB.
I didn't watch him a ton but whenever #19 went in motion the whole Bison defense was aware of it. On that goal line stand where Lujan got sacked back to about the 6 Weineke went in motion and was absolutely bracketed by defenders which I think caused the sack since Lujan never seemed to have anywhere to throw it.

[thebootfitter]

What part of the Jacks game looked solid? Not saying they shouldn't be ranked, but nothing yesterday made me feel like they should be.
I agree with mmiller. Nothing really looked solid yesterday. That doesn't mean they aren't a solid team. NDSU has made them look pretty juvenile in the past as well, yet they were still good enough to demolish other playoff teams.

We'll see. I certainly wouldn't drop them out of the top 25 after yesterday.

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[WTFCollegefootballfan]

I didn't watch him a ton but whenever #19 went in motion the whole Bison defense was aware of it. On that goal line stand where Lujan got sacked back to about the 6 Weineke went in motion and was absolutely bracketed by defenders which I think caused the sack since Lujan never seemed to have anywhere to throw it.

Bison had Smith single cover number 19 all night. The Bison didn't do anything special to cover him. Blueprint to shutdown number 19 is have a great corner.

[BisonTru]

I've only watched bits and pieces/highlights of SDSUs previous games, so I'd like to hear some Jacks fans thoughts. But Lujan seemed to play poorly compared to past performances. Partial credit to NDSUs DL and CJ Smith.

[dewey]

Bison had Smith single cover number 19 all night. The Bison didn't do anything special to cover him. Blueprint to shutdown number 19 is have a great corner.

I disagree. Numerous times when I was specifically watching CJ Smith and Weineke NDSU had him bracketed. I think in reality it was a mixture of 1 on 1, rolling coverage that way and also bracketing him with an OLB or Safety.

The NDSU run defense was outstanding last night completely taking that away from the Jackrabbits.

The stadium looks really impressive and the indoor practice facility was really nice. I liked how they had some inflatable jump houses for the younger kids to play with.

I have been to SDSU for the SDSU game the last 2 times and I will make sure to make the trip every year NDSU plays at SDSU.

SDSU to me is still be a top 10 to 20 team for me.

Dewey

[mmiller_34]

I've only watched bits and pieces/highlights of SDSUs previous games, so I'd like to hear some Jacks fans thoughts. But Lujan seemed to play poorly compared to past performances. Partial credit to NDSUs DL and CJ Smith.

We sucked. It is frustrating for SDSU fans because what we saw last night is not the same SDSU team we see week in-week out. It would seem that is the case almost always when we play the Bison. It is also clear that our D-line is terrible. We haven't got pressure all year. LAST NIGHT our OL looked terrible, I'm not going to say they are terrible because I know that next week they will play just fine. NDSU's D line and overall defensive scheme just destroys anything that the Jacks wanted to do offensively. Because our Oline crumbled yesterday everything else around it also crumbled -- like Lujans spirit and the chance of Weineke getting a decent ball thrown his way. Lujan is a fine QB, but he was on the ground every play. The other impressive thing was that we didn't throw a pick or fumble the ball -- NDSU'S defense was just a stone wall.

[centennial]

We sucked. It is frustrating for SDSU fans because what we saw last night is not the same SDSU team we see week in-week out. It would seem that is the case almost always when we play the Bison. It is also clear that our D-line is terrible. We haven't got pressure all year. LAST NIGHT our OL looked terrible, I'm not going to say they are terrible because I know that next week they will play just fine. NDSU's D line and overall defensive scheme just destroys anything that the Jacks wanted to do offensively. Because our Oline crumbled yesterday everything else around it also crumbled -- like Lujans spirit and the chance of Weineke getting a decent ball thrown his way. Lujan is a fine QB, but he was on the ground every play. The other impressive thing was that we didn't throw a pick or fumble the ball -- NDSU'S defense was just a stone wall.
My honest assessment is there is a talent and coaching difference. SDSU isn't a bad team. Top 10 easily, perhaps in the 6-8 range. Sagarin still ranks SDSU in the top 4. The main difference is that we have a NFL quality QB and a LOT of offensive weapons. Plus we have gotten away from power a little, our offense is more creative than it used be. We are a difficult team to stop. You had a great game plan for us last year, this year not as much.

[Professor Chaos]

Bison had Smith single cover number 19 all night. The Bison didn't do anything special to cover him. Blueprint to shutdown number 19 is have a great corner.
I'll have to watch the replay but I'm pretty sure they bracketed Weineke quite a bit, especially when he was lined up inside and went in motion.

[Thumper 76]

It seems we always play to not lose instead of playing to win against NDSU. That mentality bleeds into the players and then they end up playing without confidence and having all the stupid unforced errors that hurt us yesterday. Is NDSU better than SDSU. Yep. Not sure it's as big of a difference as there was yesterday. Until we get over the mental block we have vs the bison we will never make it past the second round of the playoffs when we get sent to fargo.

[BisonTru]

We sucked. It is frustrating for SDSU fans because what we saw last night is not the same SDSU team we see week in-week out. It would seem that is the case almost always when we play the Bison. It is also clear that our D-line is terrible. We haven't got pressure all year. LAST NIGHT our OL looked terrible, I'm not going to say they are terrible because I know that next week they will play just fine. NDSU's D line and overall defensive scheme just destroys anything that the Jacks wanted to do offensively. Because our Oline crumbled yesterday everything else around it also crumbled -- like Lujans spirit and the chance of Weineke getting a decent ball thrown his way. Lujan is a fine QB, but he was on the ground every play. The other impressive thing was that we didn't throw a pick or fumble the ball -- NDSU'S defense was just a stone wall.

As far as the Oline is concerned, they looked poor in the run blocking department. But so did WSU and UND. Again partial credit to NDSU. What's more worrisome is their struggles to run the ball against RM.

I thought they were adequate with their pass protection. Not great, but not awful either. NDSU had more success with their rush once they could tee off, knowing the Jacks needed to pass the ball.

NDSU made the blueprint. Take Weinke out of the game and make someone else beat you. What we learned is that Weinke is popular target because some of their other options struggle with the skill of catching the ball.

Back to where I started, the Jacks are going to have to have more success in the running game if they expect to fair well in the MVFC. I'm not sold either way yet, time will tell.

[Professor Chaos]

I'd also say that right now NDSU's DTs, Brian Schaetz and Nate Tanguay, are playing better than any DT tandem in the country. Its just impossible for teams to get a ground game going against them right now.

[jacksfan29]

We don't have a coaching staff with enough imagination to do anything creative.

That said, watching the Bison yesterday was not like watching the Bison in week 1. I think NDSU rolls to a fifth title. Their O and D lines are nasty, and there is no question Wentz is the top FCS QB this year, and possibly the best in a long line of very good Bison QBs. He can do it all.

Good luck UNI. I get the impression you have a head coach who is about as creative as ours.


I really thought the Jacks would have tried to do what Montana did. More spread, fast play. Bison D looks a hell of a lot better now though

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

We don't have a coaching staff with enough imagination to do anything creative.

That said, watching the Bison yesterday was not like watching the Bison in week 1. I think NDSU rolls to a fifth title. Their O and D lines are nasty, and there is no question Wentz is the top FCS QB this year, and possibly the best in a long line of very good Bison QBs. He can do it all.

Good luck UNI. I get the impression you have a head coach who is about as creative as ours.


UNI always plays NDSU tough. Good match up for them. That said, Wentz will be a huge problem for them. He can run really well on top of his passing ability. But the question is will Farley put his ego aside and put Kollmorgen in. Bailey looks athletic but is not the passer SK is.

IMO, NDSU is talented for UNI this year. NDSU's defense is playing lights out and it should continue against UNI.

As for the Jacks, it was only game 1 of 8 in Valley play. Ind State will come ready to win the game and the Jacks better be ready.

[BisonFan02]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUx9NbdMxBA

Where's my favorite Prairie View poster? Recognize the play at the 1:10 mark? :D

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocQ91cUbGnE

[DJnva]

Some more Carson Wentz pub from ITP: http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-u/offense-film-study-u/2015/10/05/kevin-hogan-carson-wentz-and-the-no-throw-decision/


Decision making (http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-nfl/offense-film-study-nfl/2015/09/16/nfl-film-review-week-1-aaron-rodgers-the-quick/) is one of the most important traits (http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/teams-nfl/afc-east/new-england-patriots/2015/08/12/jimmy-garoppolo-a-trait-based-approach/) for a quarterback to master ‒ when to take a chance (http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-nfl/offense-film-study-nfl/2015/02/03/super-bowl-xlix-russell-wilson-throw/), and when to throw it away (http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/teams-nfl/afc-east/new-england-patriots/2015/05/21/the-brady-legend-the-best-throwaway-in-nfl-history/). Mark Schofield (http://insidethepylon.com/author/mascho/) looks at Stanford’s Kevin Hogan (http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-u/offense-film-study-u/2015/09/29/cfb-drive-stanford-getting-home-in-three-plays/), and North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz (http://insidethepylon.com/blog/2015/08/31/mark-schofield-on-rsp-film-room-carson-wentz/), and the key question: to throw or not to throw.

[Evolution Prime]

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[Kemo]

Some more Carson Wentz pub from ITP: http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-u/offense-film-study-u/2015/10/05/kevin-hogan-carson-wentz-and-the-no-throw-decision/

One play that really stood out to me in this Saturday's game was Carson's completion on a deep out. SDSU cornerback Jimmy Forsythe read the route and jumped it... problem was, Wentz threw an absolute dart on an incredibly difficult throw, so what would have been a pick 6 for 90% of college QBs ended up to be a beautiful (or disgusting is you are a Jackrabbit fan) sideline completion.

The moral of the story: A quarterback's arm strength can have a major impact on whether or not a throw is a good decision or a bad decision.

[BisonFan02]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFSaO2v8yYQ

Watch the two play sequence starting at 42:30.....

[Bisonoline]

https://youtu.be/zHsB4T5gCeo

Go to the 2:20 mark and enjoy!
(https://youtu.be/zHsB4T5gCeo)

[Thumper 76]

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