View Full Version : Rutgers gets the shaft
chiapet9
December 4th, 2006, 10:57 AM
The Schiano-coached Knights (10-2) are scheduled to play against Kansas State (7-5) in the inaugural Texas Bowl on Dec. 28.
Rutgers beat Louisville (when they were ranked #3) and lost to two teams that are playing in bowl games - one to west virginia by 2 points in triple overtime - and they get the high honor of playing a 7-5 team in the INAUGURAL Texas Bowl? what a joke. I feel bad for those kids. they deserved a better bowl bid.
Pards Rule
December 4th, 2006, 11:05 AM
Agreed! This was a shaft job!! They really deserved better than this scenario.
sfjackster
December 4th, 2006, 11:18 AM
I agree, I was hoping to see them get into a decent bowl game.
89Hen
December 4th, 2006, 11:54 AM
they deserved a better bowl bid.
What bowl would you propose?
kardplayer
December 4th, 2006, 11:59 AM
Rutgers will probably lose this game - there's a theory out there that teams disappointed in their Bowl spot don't play well there.
Its generally beared out in those snubbed from BCS games the last few years (e.g. Cal a year or two ago), but I haven't looked at those that missed out the way Rutgers is missing out...
TexasTerror
December 4th, 2006, 12:01 PM
Um...Texas Bowl was #3 in the Big East bowl rotation...IF Navy is bowl-eligible (and thereby accepts a bid to the Meinike Car Care Bowl)
Behind BCS bowl (Orange) and Gator Bowl...it is the Texas Bowl...blame the conference! Don't go saying that Rutgers got the shaft...
The BIG EAST Bowl Lineup
In addition to the Bowl Championship Series, the BIG EAST Conference also has agreements with a number of other postseason bowl games.
In a first-of-its-kind collaboration among Division I conferences and football bowl partners, the BIG EAST and Big 12 Conferences - along with Notre Dame - have together forged a bowl partnership beginning in 2006 that will assure both BCS Conferences' and Notre Dame's participation in the Toyota Gator Bowl and Brut Sun Bowl over a four-year period. In years when selecting a BIG EAST team, the Toyota Gator Bowl or Brut Sun Bowl will have the first pick after the BIG EAST's representative to the Bowl Championship Series has been determined. The Atlantic Coast Conference will provide the opposition in the Toyota Gator Bowl (CBS) and the Pac-10 Conference will participate in the Brut Sun Bowl (CBS).
The Meineke Car Care Bowl is now in its fifth year with the BIG EAST Conference. The Meineke Car Care Bowl (ESPN), which is played in Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, N.C., will pick after the Toyota Gator Bowl or Vitalis Sun Bowl. If Navy is bowl eligible in 2006, the Midshipmen will receive the bid to the Meineke Car Care Bowl.
In November, the BIG EAST entered a four-year agreement to participate in the Texas Bowl and will meet an opponent from the Big 12 Conference beginning in the 2006 season. The Texas Bowl is played at the state-of-the-art Reliant Stadium in Houston, Texas.
The BIG EAST Conference has also aligned itself with two new bowls – the International Bowl in Toronto, Ontario, and the PapaJohn’s.com Bowl in Birmingham, Ala. The new agreements give the BIG EAST a total of six bowl deals. In the International Bowl, the BIG EAST will meet a team from the Mid-American Conference. In the PapaJohn’s.com Bowl, the BIG EAST will play a team from Conference USA. The International Bowl will be played at the Rogers Centre on Jan. 6 (ESPN2). The PapaJohn’s.com Bowl will be played at Legion Field on Dec. 23 (ESPN2).
http://www.bigeast.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/bcs-bowl-lineup.html
chiapet9
December 4th, 2006, 12:11 PM
What bowl would you propose?
well - a matchup between a 7-5 K.State and a 10-2 Rutgers doesn't make much sense. after looking through the bowls the only two that they could have gone to would be the Sun Bowl or the Meineke Bowl (these were the only two "more important" bowl games that involved the Big East)
A Rutgers matchup between Oregon State in the Sun Bowl or Boston College in the Meineke Bowl would be much better matchups to the Scarlet Knights. Navy gets to play Boston College over Rutgers - yet Rutgers beat Navy in the regular season 34-0.
15. Rutgers
22. Boston College
23. Missouri
27. Oregon State
51. Navy
64. Kansas State
if anything Navy and K. State should play each other!
89Hen
December 4th, 2006, 12:16 PM
well - a matchup between a 7-5 K.State and a 10-2 Rutgers doesn't make much sense....
if anything Navy and K. State should play each other!
Unfortunately, that's not how it works. BC should have gone the Champs Sports Bowl and Maryland should have been in the Meineke, but the bowl order is who gets to pick first, not which team gets chosen first.
Ivytalk
December 4th, 2006, 12:18 PM
I miss the old Poulan Weedeater Bowl in Shreveport, LA!:nod:
chiapet9
December 4th, 2006, 12:32 PM
just more reason why the BCS is crap. why the bowls are crap. and why Div I - BCS football will never have a legit "postseason" until they have playoffs.
Reed Rothchild
December 4th, 2006, 12:36 PM
Blame the Big East for giving the shaft to their teams and not having better bowl games.
unknown-swac
December 4th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Blame the Big East for giving the shaft to their teams and not having better bowl games.
Exactly. They knew where they were going if they didnt win the Big East.
chiapet9
December 4th, 2006, 01:17 PM
Blame the Big East for giving the shaft to their teams and not having better bowl games.
they probably can't GET the better bowl games. the rest of the "big 6" have them. oh well....not that I REALLY care anyway. the BCS is crap...the FCS is BEST!
Pards Rule
December 5th, 2006, 09:43 AM
Who is Western Michigan playing in the first International Bowl in Toronto? Trivia: this is the first foreign bowl since when & where??
chiapet9
December 5th, 2006, 09:59 AM
Who is Western Michigan playing in the first International Bowl in Toronto? Trivia: this is the first foreign bowl since when & where??
they're playing Cincinnati (who did beat Rutgers this year...oooooooo) first bowl outside the US since the Bacardi Bowl was held in Cuba - 1937 was the last game....and Auburn and Villanova tied 7-7.
Lehigh Football Nation
December 5th, 2006, 10:03 AM
Did anybody actually watch the Rutgers/W Va game? I think Rutgers was shafted in more ways then one. Two *clear* W Va Fumbles that weren't called by the refs. (Must have been Marshall grads... xlolx )
Tribefan
December 5th, 2006, 10:19 AM
Rutgers did get jobbed a bit in that one. Big East refs are awful.
Watch this clear fumble in the Louisville-UConn game. It's not like UConn had a chance, but it's no excuse for bad officiating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaiFWqftwrc
CollegeSportsInfo
December 5th, 2006, 01:19 PM
Agreed! This was a shaft job!! They really deserved better than this scenario.
Yeah. But they shouldn't have lost to Cincy. Had they won that game, the final week would have meant nothing. Rutgers could have lost to WVU and still woul dhave finished tied with Louisville and gone to the BCS. Louisville would then have gone to the Gator. The problem has less to do with Rutgers and more to do with the bowl alliances in the Big East. I'm sure the Rutgers fans would have prefered playing ECU in the PapaJohns.com bowl (instead of USF).
89Hen
December 5th, 2006, 01:21 PM
Trivia: this is the first foreign bowl since when & where??
Without looking, I think there was a bowl in Japan... either Tokyo Bowl or Epson Bowl, not that long ago and some I-AA's played. W&M in 1995ish?
Tod
December 5th, 2006, 01:25 PM
Without looking, I think there was a bowl in Japan... either Tokyo Bowl or Epson Bowl, not that long ago and some I-AA's played. W&M in 1995ish?
I think Montana actually skipped the playoffs one year to play in a bowl in Japan against Army, back in the late 80's. Either that, or I had one heckuva strange dream once. :confused: :D
Pards Rule
December 5th, 2006, 01:26 PM
Chiapet had it, Bacardi Bowl (who said sponsorships are a recent thing!). Saw it in the Kalamazoo Gazette last week when I was out there and thought it was a great trivia question.
Pards Rule
December 5th, 2006, 01:27 PM
Maybe my source (the KZOO Gazette) could be wrong. I'm starting to question if there was a Japan Bowl. Can someone investigate?
bluehenbillk
December 5th, 2006, 01:28 PM
Talk about RU getting the shaft is a crock. Win games & you goto a BCS bowl, come in 3rd place you goto Texas. Most RU fans are upset because they're not making the trip & they're scrambling to find somewhere it'll be on TV as the NFL Network ain't available in the NYC area.
Tod
December 5th, 2006, 01:44 PM
I think Montana actually skipped the playoffs one year to play in a bowl in Japan against Army, back in the late 80's. Either that, or I had one heckuva strange dream once. :confused: :D
Correction - Montana played Army in the 1984 Mirage Bowl in Japan.
89Hen
December 5th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Maybe my source (the KZOO Gazette) could be wrong.
I may need to cancel my subscription. :p
chiapet9
December 5th, 2006, 01:57 PM
hmm....it seems like the Japan Bowl was an all-star game? and not a regular bowl game. there was also a game called the Mirage Bowl in Japan - but that was a regular season game, not a "traditional" bowl game.
Pards Rule
December 5th, 2006, 02:20 PM
An all star game does not count. HAS to be a bowl game! Hmmm, maybe those KZOOers have ask.com after all!!!
furpal87
December 5th, 2006, 05:06 PM
As said earlier my biggest complaint being a native New Jerseyan is that it's on the NFL network. I'm not one of the 13 people in the country who gets that station!!!
bluehenbillk
December 6th, 2006, 10:06 AM
As said earlier my biggest complaint being a native New Jerseyan is that it's on the NFL network. I'm not one of the 13 people in the country who gets that station!!!
If they're smart they'll work a deal with a local station. I get all the network stations from both Philly & Baltimore & the Ravens/Bengals game last Thursday that was on the NFL network was broadcast by the ABC affiliate in Baltimore.
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