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TexasTerror
December 3rd, 2006, 08:39 PM
Projected FCS Draftees (Updated 12/1/06) with rounds listed after their college listing. There are currently 14 FCS players that are etched in the seven rounds with a few others possible undrafted FAs...
Bain, Travarous (CB), Hampton 2-3
Bannister, Calvin (CB), Hampton 3
Durant, Justin (ILB), Hampton 4
Robinson, Laurent (WR), Illinois State 4
Ball, David (WR), New Hampshire 4-5
Patrick, Ben (TE), Delaware 4-5
Tolbert, Henry (WR), Grambling State 5
Whitlock, Arkee (RB), Southern Illinois 5-6
Nkang, Chad (SS), Elon 6
Coleman, Alonzo (RB), Hampton 6
DeOssie, Zak (ILB), Brown 6-7 6
Jackson, Martin (DE), Alcorn State 6-7
Koegel, Christian (P), Massachusetts 6-7
Graham, Corey (CB), New Hampshire 7
Rascati, Justin (QB), James Madison 7-FA
Stone, Daren (SS), Maine 7-FA
Brown, Courtney (CB), Cal Poly 7-FA
Davis, Corey (OG), James Madison 7-FA
Dawson, Clifton (RB), Harvard 7-FA
stuperman17
December 3rd, 2006, 09:52 PM
I think Marcus Mason has a good shot to get at least a tryout, if not a late 7th round pick. His size hurts him, but he's been unbelievable this season averaging over 6 ypc and over 160 ypg. I'm not being a homer on this one either, i think he'll get at least a tryout for a team.
Peems
December 3rd, 2006, 09:54 PM
i heard that Courtney Brown of Cal Poly could go in the third or fourth round, he has size and the skills. also what about Kyle Shotwell from Cal Poly any chance he could get drafted?
VT Wildcat Fan53
December 3rd, 2006, 09:55 PM
Projected FCS Draftees (Updated 12/1/06) with rounds listed after their college listing. There are currently 14 FCS players that are etched in the seven rounds with a few others possible undrafted FAs...
Bain, Travarous (CB), Hampton 2-3
Bannister, Calvin (CB), Hampton 3
Durant, Justin (ILB), Hampton 4
Robinson, Laurent (WR), Illinois State 4
Ball, David (WR), New Hampshire 4-5
Patrick, Ben (TE), Delaware 4-5
Tolbert, Henry (WR), Grambling State 5
Whitlock, Arkee (RB), Southern Illinois 5-6
Nkang, Chad (SS), Elon 6
Coleman, Alonzo (RB), Hampton 6
DeOssie, Zak (ILB), Brown 6-7 6
Jackson, Martin (DE), Alcorn State 6-7
Koegel, Christian (P), Massachusetts 6-7
Graham, Corey (CB), New Hampshire 7
Rascati, Justin (QB), James Madison 7-FA
Stone, Daren (SS), Maine 7-FA
Brown, Courtney (CB), Cal Poly 7-FA
Davis, Corey (OG), James Madison 7-FA
Dawson, Clifton (RB), Harvard 7-FA
Easy to see why many at UNH felt that Hampton may have been the most talented team they faced all year. 4 projected draftees in the 1st 6rounds (3 in the 1st 4 rounds!) + a free agent 6'5" QB along with some other free agent prospects. Based on what I have witnessed in person, I would put some heavy stock into Ben Patrick (UD TE),Kogel (UMASS punter), and Stone (Maine),too!
Baldy
December 3rd, 2006, 10:47 PM
Projected FCS Draftees (Updated 12/1/06) with rounds listed after their college listing. There are currently 14 FCS players that are etched in the seven rounds with a few others possible undrafted FAs...
Bain, Travarous (CB), Hampton 2-3
Bannister, Calvin (CB), Hampton 3
Durant, Justin (ILB), Hampton 4
Robinson, Laurent (WR), Illinois State 4
Ball, David (WR), New Hampshire 4-5
Patrick, Ben (TE), Delaware 4-5
Tolbert, Henry (WR), Grambling State 5
Whitlock, Arkee (RB), Southern Illinois 5-6
Nkang, Chad (SS), Elon 6
Coleman, Alonzo (RB), Hampton 6
DeOssie, Zak (ILB), Brown 6-7 6
Jackson, Martin (DE), Alcorn State 6-7
Koegel, Christian (P), Massachusetts 6-7
Graham, Corey (CB), New Hampshire 7
Rascati, Justin (QB), James Madison 7-FA
Stone, Daren (SS), Maine 7-FA
Brown, Courtney (CB), Cal Poly 7-FA
Davis, Corey (OG), James Madison 7-FA
Dawson, Clifton (RB), Harvard 7-FA
If John Mohring isn't on that list, it isn't worth the "paper" it's written on. xcoffeex
GSUhooligan
December 4th, 2006, 01:35 AM
seriously. He was a bad ass 1st teamer to begin with. Plus, he's been coached under a former NFL linebacker coach for the past year...he's going pro.
P.S. With such a stacked roster, why has Hampton underachieved so much? Coaching? Or are the players not as good as the "experts" say?
chiapet9
December 4th, 2006, 07:48 AM
I think Marcus Mason has a good shot to get at least a tryout, if not a late 7th round pick. His size hurts him, but he's been unbelievable this season averaging over 6 ypc and over 160 ypg. I'm not being a homer on this one either, i think he'll get at least a tryout for a team.
maybe he'll end up on special teams or something. i don't know if he'll be as effective on offense because of his size. i do think he's got a good shot though - he's a talented player...as long as he can stay healthy.
GannonFan
December 4th, 2006, 08:55 AM
Easy to see why many at UNH felt that Hampton may have been the most talented team they faced all year. 4 projected draftees in the 1st 6rounds (3 in the 1st 4 rounds!) + a free agent 6'5" QB along with some other free agent prospects. Based on what I have witnessed in person, I would put some heavy stock into Ben Patrick (UD TE),Kogel (UMASS punter), and Stone (Maine),too!
I don't get it then, was the rest of Hampton's defense just terrible? It's not like Hampton really slowed UNH down - UNH did put up 41 points and had over 400 yards of offense, more than 300 yards of which was Santos passing for 5 TD's as well. For a defense with two NFL-bound cornerbacks that seems like a lot of passing, especially considering a "less-talented" Umass defense the very next week severely limited UNH's offense.
VT Wildcat Fan53
December 4th, 2006, 10:14 AM
I don't get it then, was the rest of Hampton's defense just terrible? It's not like Hampton really slowed UNH down - UNH did put up 41 points and had over 400 yards of offense, more than 300 yards of which was Santos passing for 5 TD's as well. For a defense with two NFL-bound cornerbacks that seems like a lot of passing, especially considering a "less-talented" Umass defense the very next week severely limited UNH's offense.
I really think it all comes down to coaching and what a coach can/will do schematically with his talent. My sense is that Hampton sits in a base defense so that, while the extraordinary talent is there, it may sort of get handcuffed vs complex Offenses. Conversely, UMASS Coach Don Brown may be the most aggressive and sophisticated defensive coach around (his track record proves it) and his kids benefit greatly from that pressuring style and commitment to teaching and subsequent execution.
Before I get hollered at by Hampton fans, however, I do think that Hampton Coach Joe Taylor is an incredible leader and, from what I can tell, runs a fantastic program with quality young men who have things in the right perspective. I know the UNH coaches were all very impressed and were left with a sense of great respect for Coach Taylor and his program. I'm just guessing he can win 10 games each year without having to get complex or deceptive in his defensive scheming. That makes it tough to shut down a wide open offense like UNH--especially in a one game showdown in the post-season with just 5 days to get ready, ....
Bottom line, in a combine setting, Hampton kids will Wow all of us with their speed, size, vertical jump,shuttle skills, .... UMASS kids are more typical 1-AA skill set, but are so-o-o well coached schematically that they perform at this level of college football with distinction. But, at the next level, no matter how advanced the coaching may be, they probably wouldn't measure up athletically. Many feel the same way about both Santos and Ball, too. This is not a criticism, just reality for most 1-AA players. After all,there is a reason why they weren't offered by 1-A teams 4 or 5 years ago.
HIU 93
December 4th, 2006, 10:22 AM
I don't get it then, was the rest of Hampton's defense just terrible? It's not like Hampton really slowed UNH down - UNH did put up 41 points and had over 400 yards of offense, more than 300 yards of which was Santos passing for 5 TD's as well. For a defense with two NFL-bound cornerbacks that seems like a lot of passing, especially considering a "less-talented" Umass defense the very next week severely limited UNH's offense.
We had D-line issues all year. From injuries, to not being able to stop the run, to not having an effective pass rush. We were able to control the run OK, but we could not get any pressure on Santos, and we couldn't stop Ball (Has anybody? He is the definite truth!). That led to what you saw, a very close defeat.
HIU 93
December 4th, 2006, 10:28 AM
I really think it all comes down to coaching and what a coach can/will do schematically with his talent. My sense is that Hampton sits in a base defense so that, while the extraordinary talent is there, it may sort of get handcuffed vs complex Offenses. Conversely, UMASS Coach Don Brown may be the most aggressive and sophisticated defensive coach around (his track record proves it) and his kids benefit greatly from that pressuring style and commitment to teaching and subsequent execution.
Before I get hollered at by Hampton fans, however, I do think that Hampton Coach Joe Taylor is an incredible leader and, from what I can tell, runs a fantastic program with quality young men who have things in the right perspective. I know the UNH coaches were all very impressed and were left with a sense of great respect for Coach Taylor and his program. I'm just guessing he can win 10 games each year without having to get complex or deceptive in his defensive scheming. That makes it tough to shut down a wide open offense like UNH--especially in a one game showdown in the post-season with just 5 days to get ready, ....
Bottom line, in a combine setting, Hampton kids will Wow all of us with their speed, size, vertical jump,shuttle skills, .... UMASS kids are more typical 1-AA skill set, but are so-o-o well coached schematically that they perform at this level of college football with distinction. But, at the next level, no matter how advanced the coaching may be, they probably wouldn't measure up athletically. Many feel the same way about both Santos and Ball, too. This is not a criticism, just reality for most 1-AA players. After all,there is a reason why they weren't offered by 1-A teams 4 or 5 years ago.
I don't think it was coaching. We put very little pressure on Santos. He had too many pass attempts where he had too much time to get rid of the ball. Joe Taylor is a very conservative, old school coach in terms of schematics. He does however, know how to adjust to what happens on the field. I also disagree with you about Ball. He is literally the best I-AA receiver I have witnessed in the last ten years, and he would be in my all division top ten for the same time period. He is going to make some NFL team very happy.
VT Wildcat Fan53
December 4th, 2006, 10:49 AM
I don't think it was coaching. We put very little pressure on Santos. He had too many pass attempts where he had too much time to get rid of the ball. Joe Taylor is a very conservative, old school coach in terms of schematics. He does however, know how to adjust to what happens on the field. I also disagree with you about Ball. He is literally the best I-AA receiver I have witnessed in the last ten years, and he would be in my all division top ten for the same time period. He is going to make some NFL team very happy.
You aren't disagreeing with me re: Ball. I personally agree with you more than you know. I am literally his biggest fan--and always have been. I just know there are a lot of detractors out there. Also, FYI, word is that many UNH people (including the radio broadcast team who saw everyone, including Northwestern) felt that Hampton was the most talented team UNH played this year. Thank goodness Santos was on his game -- and, as you intoned -- the UNH O Line gave him the protection he needed. Even so, the thinest of threads was all that separated Hampton from a date with UMASS -- one trick play and an incredible 4th down connection to a young freshman RB. Good luck next year!
HIU 93
December 4th, 2006, 12:38 PM
You aren't disagreeing with me re: Ball. I personally agree with you more than you know. I am literally his biggest fan--and always have been. I just know there are a lot of detractors out there. Also, FYI, word is that many UNH people (including the radio broadcast team who saw everyone, including Northwestern) felt that Hampton was the most talented team UNH played this year. Thank goodness Santos was on his game -- and, as you intoned -- the UNH O Line gave him the protection he needed. Even so, the thinest of threads was all that separated Hampton from a date with UMASS -- one trick play and an incredible 4th down connection to a young freshman RB. Good luck next year!
Good luck to y'all. Maybe we can do it again in '07.
VT Wildcat Fan53
December 4th, 2006, 12:51 PM
Good luck to y'all. Maybe we can do it again in '07.
Wouldn't that be great! However, we'll see if we can get you up to NH to show off some New England hospitality. You'll have to put up with our old, decrepit, out of date stadium, but the seacoast area of NH is pretty nice.
UNH_Alum_In_CT
December 4th, 2006, 03:23 PM
Wouldn't that be great! However, we'll see if we can get you up to NH to show off some New England hospitality. You'll have to put up with our old, decrepit, out of date stadium, but the seacoast area of NH is pretty nice.
Hey 53,
If we're lucky enough to have a playoff game with Hampton next year or any year in the near future, then we definitely need to do something to greet the visitors from Hampton. I'm not sure how we fire up a smoker for BBQ or a vat to fry fish like our friends at their "Home By The Sea", but we'll have to figure out a way to have a big pot of chowdah for them!! And we'll have to petition the NCAA to make them bring "the Force" to Durham!! :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: The UMass band is good, but good lord I've never heard a band as loud as Hampton's.
Regardless, I will be there greeting every visitor from Hampton with a hardy handshake and a warm greeting just like their fans did with me on the 25th!!!!
OK, you can get back to discussing potential draftees!! xlolx xlolx
BigDukeDawg
December 13th, 2006, 01:47 PM
You aren't disagreeing with me re: Ball. I personally agree with you more than you know. I am literally his biggest fan--and always have been. I just know there are a lot of detractors out there. Also, FYI, word is that many UNH people (including the radio broadcast team who saw everyone, including Northwestern) felt that Hampton was the most talented team UNH played this year. Thank goodness Santos was on his game -- and, as you intoned -- the UNH O Line gave him the protection he needed. Even so, the thinest of threads was all that separated Hampton from a date with UMASS -- one trick play and an incredible 4th down connection to a young freshman RB. Good luck next year!
wow... most talented?? thas tough:nonono2:
BigDukeDawg
December 13th, 2006, 01:48 PM
yo HIU, what ever happened to Micah Littlejon or Melvin Massey??
andy7171
December 13th, 2006, 01:59 PM
FYI, Jermon Bushrod from Towson is getting closely looked at as well. He started all 4 years, and at 6'6" and 320 he's got the size to play tackle or guard.
He got rolled up on in the last game against JMU, but haven't heard anything about how serious.
Appguy
December 17th, 2006, 10:28 AM
Ive read david Ball doesnt have NFL speed in scout reports. does anyone have a 40 time for him?
UNH 40
December 17th, 2006, 11:31 AM
He is in the 4.5-4.6 area, same as Jerry Rice.
HIU 93
December 17th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Ive read david Ball doesnt have NFL speed in scout reports. does anyone have a 40 time for him?
Neither did Jerry Rice. Wonder how that turned out?xlolx
HIU 93
December 17th, 2006, 12:03 PM
Wouldn't that be great! However, we'll see if we can get you up to NH to show off some New England hospitality. You'll have to put up with our old, decrepit, out of date stadium, but the seacoast area of NH is pretty nice.
I've been to Durham. The seacoast is very pretty, but it's a little- check that- A LOT cold. If we get a game there, I will be there for the playoffs. Make sure the chowda is hot, because I'm going to need something to warm me up!
PS- I lived in Boston for a quick minute, so I have felt a New England winter. Let's just say I think mother nature would give y'all an edge in the playoffs up there.
Jackluv
December 17th, 2006, 03:12 PM
jason murrieta has a chance to get possibly 7th round or FA
i saw FA because of his size.
ASUSig
December 17th, 2006, 04:29 PM
Why not throw Kevin Richardson (RB - App. State) in the mix??? Yes, he's undersized but so is Warrick Dunn.. Yes, Dunn has more speed, but K.Rich can put on some weight and be a decent backup. I would think 6-7/FA.
Appguy
December 17th, 2006, 05:17 PM
depends what K Rich does his senoir season. maybe gain a little weight too
BrevardMountaineer03
December 22nd, 2006, 10:15 AM
What about Murrell DE from Appalachian? He might be undersized as a DE but what about OLB like Hunter?
ASU Kep
December 22nd, 2006, 02:14 PM
Hunter is still playin' DE for the Packers, he's getting some playing time now, too. I imagine he's probably put on a few pounds, I think he was somewhere around 255 when he left (somewhere around 250 his senior season).
Purple Pride
January 9th, 2007, 11:57 AM
UCA's Aaron Fairooz and Jacob Ford invited to the combine.:thumbsup: :hurray:
http://www.ucasports.com/sport.asp?action=news&sportid=1&article=1642
youwouldno
January 9th, 2007, 12:08 PM
Jason Hunter has a bigger frame than Murrell so Hunter can stay at DE as a pass-rush specialist. Murrell has to move to OLB where he won't be drafted, but probably will get a shot as a FA in camp.
Lehigh Football Nation
January 9th, 2007, 01:02 PM
I would:
* Revise Brown LB Zak DeOssie to a 4-5 round pick
* Revise Harvard RB Clifton Dawson to a 4-5 round pick (how could he be listed as only a possible FA?)
* Add Yale G Ed McCarthy to a 6-7-FA pick
* Add Princeton DB J.J. Artis to a 6-7-FA pick
* Add Princeton P Colin McDonough to a 6-7-FA pick
* Add Penn RB Joe Sandberg as a FA pick
* Add Harvard DT Mike Berg as a FA pick
* Add Cornell OL Eric Miller as a FA pick
My fearless prediction is that every one of the players I'm mentioning will be spending time in NFL camps this August, drafted or no.
rmutv
January 9th, 2007, 01:10 PM
Would be very surprising if they get drafted, so these Robert Morris graduates are far more likely to be FA picks:
DE Ray Gensler - because of small size will likely be moved to OLB in the mold of a DeMarcus Ware (not nearly as talented, of course)
DT Matt Brunck - Steelers sent scouts the final few games to look at him
TE Jarvis Powers - Will not be looked at as a TE but as WR, as he was playing out of position the last few years.
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