GDT: UND @ NDSU

[centennial]

Watch here -
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/

http://www.gobison.com/news/2015/9/16/FB_0916154004.aspx

http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/_/id/2449/north-dakota-state-bison

[centennial]

Game started on ESPN 3

[centennial]

ND defers. NDSU to start.

[PantherRob82]

Pumped.

[centennial]

NDSU to the 47. Flag on field.

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Flag against NDSU. Start at 15.

[centennial]

NDSU 1st down to the 28 yard line

[PantherRob82]

UND defense stepping up. Bison have 3rd and 20

[centennial]

Special teams play by ND to the 22 yard line

[PantherRob82]

Huge punt return gets the Sioux to the Bison 22

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NDSU offense looked terrible on their last 3 plays.

[centennial]

Field goal attempt by UND
ND- 3
NDSU- 0

[PantherRob82]

UND FG makes it 3-0

[centennial]

NDSU with a big play to the 40

[PantherRob82]

Bison move into the red zone. UND defense looks strong, but NDSU is clicking now.

[centennial]

BS call he caught it

[PantherRob82]

Wow. Wide open TD is dropped.

[centennial]

Bonnette couldn't catch it

[PantherRob82]

BS call he caught it

Looked like it hit the ground on the angle from the end zone.

[centennial]

3-3

[grizband]

Is this game available on ESPN 3?

[centennial]

Big sack 3 and long for UND

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Is this game available on ESPN 3?
Yes sir

[PantherRob82]

Huge punt return for the Bison brought back by a penalty

[centennial]

Damn penalties

[PantherRob82]

What happened with the "fumble" on the return?

[centennial]

What happened with the "fumble" on the return?
NDSU recovered

[Hambone]

What happened with the "fumble" on the return?

NDSU recovered. If the UND offense doesn't get going it will be a long day.

[centennial]

NDSU down to the 29

[PantherRob82]

UND not allowing a lot of big plays, but the Bison are methodical. Seemed like a quick first quarter.

[centennial]

1st quarter is in the history books 3-3 with NDSU at the 19- 3rd and 1

[centennial]

On but off topic SD leads Drake 24-0 10 minutes left in the 2nd.

[Bison56]

TD NDSU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[centennial]

10-3 NDSU

[grizband]

Decent coverage on that NDSU coverage. I expect NDSU to win, but hope UND keeps this close.

[Hambone]

Pass defense is not very good.

[centennial]

Decent coverage on that NDSU coverage. I expect NDSU to win, but hope UND keeps this close.
No offense yet. Frankly Weber was doing better at this part of the game last week.

[Hambone]

Very important drive for UND here. A quick three and out and this could go downhill fast.

[centennial]

UND QB sacked

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3 and out

[Bison56]

Is UND in the - for yardage on Offense?

[centennial]

NDSU at UND 22 knocking on the door

[centennial]

Is UND in the - for yardage on Offense?
-1 yard total offense. -4 rushing.

[Bison56]

TD Bison!!!!!!!!!

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-1 yard total offense. -4 rushing.

xbowx

[centennial]

17-3 NDSU

[PantherRob82]

This could get ugly.

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Maybe you guys should have played College of Faith.

[IBleedYellow]

Keep it up defense! I want to see them in the negative until the clock strikes zero.

[DaBizon]

The sewy suck so bad. LMAO at negative total yardage

[Bison56]

Keep it up defense! I want to see them in the negative until the clock strikes zero.

I want this to be the #1 blowout on the list of all time blowouts.

[DaBizon]

But. But. They beat the Cowboys...and ......Drake. LOL welcome to the valley

[centennial]

UND has positive total o yardage now

[Bison56]

UND has positive total o yardage now

Unacceptable.:D

[Bisonator]

UND has -1 zenner! xlolx

[Hambone]

This ought to be another quick TD drive.

[centennial]

NDSU starts at the UND 46. UND is negative yards again.

[Bison56]

Shepard is in the zone.

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TD Bison!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[centennial]

24-3 NDSU

[Hambone]

I'm going to guess. Kickoff to the corner that barely stays in bounds. Then a three and out with 4 yards gained. 15 yard punt return for SU THEN A 5 play TD drive.

[centennial]

I'm going to guess. Kickoff to the corner that barely stays in bounds. Then a three and out with 4 yards gained. 15 yard punt return for SU THEN A 5 play TD drive.
Almost called it.

[Bison56]

Sundogs O line is getting worked.

[IBleedYellow]

We need more sacks. Not enough stops for loss.

Let's go defense!

[centennial]

3 and out

[centennial]

UND gets some defense going.

[IBleedYellow]

At the half:

NDSU 24, UND 3

NDSU offense: 83 rushing, 158 passing for 241 total.
UND offense: 0 rushing, 5 passing for 5 total.

[PantherRob82]

With the USD beating of Drake it's safe to say UND is not a top 25 team

[centennial]

With the USD beating of Drake it's safe to say UND is not a top 25 team
The question is how bad is Wyoming?

[PantherRob82]

The question is how bad is Wyoming?

Maybe they should schedule College of Faith?

[centennial]

Maybe they should schedule College of Faith?
Headlining on ESPN 3 Wyoming start the 2016 season against the feared COLLEGE OF FAITH

[AmsterBison]

Can't believe that NDSU is only up 21. Moorhead State had more offense in the first half back in the 2000 80-0 game.

Positives for UND:

- No turnovers
- Their special teams have outplayed NDSU's
- Their defense has done enough to keep them in the game

[IBleedYellow]

Can't believe that NDSU is only up 21. Moorhead State had more offense in the first half back in the 2000 80-0 game.

Positives for UND:

- No turnovers
- Their special teams have outplayed NDSU's
- Their defense has done enough to keep them in the game
Outplayed?

The only reason they have three points is a block in the back wasn't called that was called on ndsu the very next special teams play..
Exact same play, too.

[Drblankstare]

I must say, I've never had more fun at tailgating. I've been tailgating almost 12 years and the energy today was a little different. The Whioux fans who I met were great. It was a fun time.

[centennial]

UND go 3 and out. NDSU on O.

[IBleedYellow]

True freshman kicker for NDSU bounces one threw the uprights.

Edit: From 49 yards out.

[centennial]

NDSU 27-3 with a 50 yard field goal

[IBleedYellow]

I've never seen that before. It literally bounced on the crossbar and through.

[Bisonator]

I've never seen that before. It literally bounced on the crossbar and through.
Cam is going to be a great kicker for us.

[IBleedYellow]

Cam is going to be a great kicker for us.
Yeah.

We have a kicker!

[Bisonator]

Nice to see Wentz hit those bombs!

[centennial]

TD!
34-3

[Drblankstare]

Well it was a fun run up to the game anyway.

[centennial]

Do we run up the score?

[Twentysix]

Omg UND is so bad.

[centennial]

Special teams play by UND

[centennial]

UND at 2nd and goal at the NDSU 3

[Bisonator]

UND scores a TD off a fumbled punt. :(

[Twentysix]

Und about to score

[IBleedYellow]

Darius Shepherd was thinking about running before he had the ball. :(

[centennial]

I CANNOT believe UND scored.

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34-9

[iowastatebison]

Extra point makes it a three score game. Don't agree with the two point conversion call there.

[marenlee]

Up until the muffed punt return UND had no first downs. So disappointed. Hah!

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[centennial]

I have to say UND run defense is solid.

[IBleedYellow]

Up until the muffed punt return UND had no first downs. So disappointed. Hah!

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I'm more disappointed we let them get a first down.

We couldn't have wrapped that touchdown in a nicer box.

[centennial]

NDSU is bringing in 2nd team on defence

[Drblankstare]

Let's have a running clock

[344Johnson]

Nd's front seven deserves a better secondary and offense. They look good. The rest of the team is bad.

[centennial]

UND plpayer injured.Hope he is okay.

Also, we are running out time to make them not look as bad? They haven't been able to stop the throw all day.

[Bisonator]

Sad to see UND's safety looks like he broke his leg. Ouch!:(

[Bisonator]

An ugly second half.

[Drblankstare]

An ugly second half.
No kidding

[centennial]

3 and out UND. Put in the 2nd and 3rds if we aren't trying to throw.

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The ****. We can't catch.

[Kemo]

Nd's front seven deserves a better secondary and offense. They look good. The rest of the team is bad.

This is a fair statement.

UND appears to be very young team as well, as it seems like every UND player the announcers talk about is a sophomore or freshman.

[IBleedYellow]

Holy crap NDSU needs to have some fielding drills.

[centennial]

I think this is where it will end. NDSU mercy rule UND to make it look closer than it was. 34-9

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

South Dakota is playing good football.

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NDSU 377 total yards. Un_ 61.

[iowastatebison]

It looks like UND is moving in the right direction, their run defense looked pretty good. Will be interesting to see how they fair in Big Sky play.

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Maybe UN_ will buy out the next game.

[IBleedYellow]

It looks like UND is moving in the right direction, their run defense looked pretty good. Will be interesting to see how they fair in Big Sky play.

I'm not sold on their run defense. Their entire defensive plan against us: Sell out on the run, 100%, no matter what. Blitz on obvious passing downs/yardage, and hope we drop the pass.

[gregatim]

I'm not sold on their run defense. Their entire defensive plan against us: Sell out on the run, 100%, no matter what. Blitz on obvious passing downs/yardage, and hope we drop the pass.

I'm with you. They had 8 or 9 in the box and blitzed nearly every down sellingbout to stop the run. I guess it worked as we only scored 34 and under 400 yards of offense, but it wasn't just the front 7.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm not sold on their run defense. Their entire defensive plan against us: Sell out on the run, 100%, no matter what. Blitz on obvious passing downs/yardage, and hope we drop the pass.


Weber State blitzed a lot and it was no where near as much as UND. They were run blitzing almost every play on some series and 3 and long. I haven't seen a team do that much before. Definitely "selling out" to stop the run.

[Professor Chaos]

UND is going to struggle in the pass happy Big Sky unless their pass defense improves a lot. Maybe they won't sell out against the run on most teams like the did for NDSU but with as inept as their offense looked they're going to have a hard time keeping up without a much improved defense on the back end.

[Darlinikki150]

I'm disappointed w UND showing. Good to get a win but damn they looked like a high school team. Still not sold our Defense is gonna hold up in the MVFC, but they looked god yesterday . It was a fun day of tailgating tho, and I only heard the dreaded chant about 20 times.

[BisonBacker]

Saw this post over at the hitler youth board and couldn't help but laugh.

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Spoke to a Drake fan after the game and he said Drake will beat South Dakota. Said North Dakota was too strong to beat. Fundamentally but not athletically, Drake might be the best team we face.

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[mvemjsunpx]

UND's defensive style appears similar to the Todd Bowles/Arizona Cardinals style, which also seems philosophically akin to the 46 defense. NoDak doesn't have the DBs to make that work at present, though.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Saw this post over at the hitler youth board and couldn't help but laugh.



That poster is an idiot.

xlolx

[Bisonoline]

It looks like UND is moving in the right direction, their run defense looked pretty good. Will be interesting to see how they fair in Big Sky play.

They were selling out on the run with constant blitzes etc. You put that many in the box you had better be able to stop the run.xnodx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

They were selling out on the run with constant blitzes etc. You put that many in the box you had better be able to stop the run.xnodx


Exactly!

They were run blitzing constantly besides 2nd and 3rd and long.

Wish the Bison would have tried a few screens but in the end they won.

[Gil Dobie]

Wow, only 12 pages on this game. My oh my have things changed in 12 years.

[BisonBacker]

Wow, only 12 pages on this game. My oh my have things changed in 12 years.

Yeah you know it's such a huge game and a rivalry to boot xblahx

[Twentysix]

Yeah you know it's such a huge game and a rivalry to boot xblahx

If it's played regularly it will become one again.

UND feels like a rivalry in basketball, kind of.. They are always way ****tier than us though.

[BisonBacker]

If it's played regularly it will become one again.

UND feels like a rivalry in basketball, kind of.. They are always way ****tier than us though.

No thank you once was enough. We'd of gotten a better game from Fargo South High School.

[Professor Chaos]

If it's played regularly it will become one again.

UND feels like a rivalry in basketball, kind of.. They are always way ****tier than us though.
Yet somehow they keeping winning the basketball games played in Grand Forks xmadx

I actually think there will be a lot of parallels to the D1 versions of the NDSU/UND rivalry in football and men's basketball. Honestly that first 2010 basketball game, despite being in the Fargodome which is a horrible basketball venue and immediately following the crushing EWU defeat in the FCS playoffs, had a ton of energy. The 2011 game, being the first in Grand Forks, had a ton of energy. Since then the 2012 and 2014 games in Fargo (I didn't go to the 2013 game in Grand Forks) have been pretty "meh". Of course that's probably due to the fact that NDSU has ****stomped UND in all 3 games played in Fargo to this point. The SDSU men's basketball games in Fargo have been much more intense during that time (but again those have mostly been close games).

I get the feeling the 2019 football game won't be quite as big of a deal as this game was and going forward if additional games are played it'll be more and more of a "meh" feeling to them unless UND football turns into a perennial FCS playoff contender.

[Twentysix]

Yet somehow they keeping winning the basketball games played in Grand Forks xmadx

I actually think there will be a lot of parallels to the D1 versions of the NDSU/UND rivalry in football and men's basketball. Honestly that first 2010 basketball game, despite being in the Fargodome which is a horrible basketball venue and immediately following the crushing EWU defeat in the FCS playoffs, had a ton of energy. The 2011 game, being the first in Grand Forks, had a ton of energy. Since then the 2012 and 2014 games in Fargo (I didn't go to the 2013 game in Grand Forks) have been pretty "meh". Of course that's probably due to the fact that NDSU has ****stomped UND in all 3 games played in Fargo to this point. The SDSU men's basketball games in Fargo have been much more intense during that time (but again those have mostly been close games).

I get the feeling the 2019 football game won't be quite as big of a deal as this game was and going forward if additional games are played it'll be more and more of a "meh" feeling to them unless UND football turns into a perennial FCS playoff contender.

They will eventually be a playoff team... They have too many resources and are in too good of an (FCS) football area to be crap forever.

Of course they have to realize what NDSU SDSU and UNI already know. Play defense with upper Midwest recruits and you win games.

[F'N Hawks]

They will eventually be a playoff team... They have too many resources and are in too good of an (FCS) football area to be crap forever.

Of course they have to realize what NDSU SDSU and UNI already know. Play defense with upper Midwest recruits and you win games.


If that is the criteria it looks like they are well on their way defensively. Might want to check the depth chart first.

Concerning the "8-9 men in the box" stuff. No they didn't do that every play, stupid. They did it the same amount that NDSU did.
If you watched the game, when NDSU had 2 TE's and a FB in the game UND packed it in with them. NDSU did the exact same thing when UND put 2 FB's and 1 TE in - did you see how many guys they had on the line of scrimmage. More than four I know that.

When NDSU spread them out they actually had their dime back in with them at times, meaning they could not have "8-9" guys in the box. It just seemed like that because they brought 6 and NDSU couldn't block them all. You guys are going to have issues up front vs. teams like UNI, Western, and SDSU if their defenses are as good as everyone claims.

[centennial]

Wow, only 12 pages on this game. My oh my have things changed in 12 years.
Add to that a lot of them are mine while having a few drinks.

[Professor Chaos]

If that is the criteria it looks like they are well on their way defensively. Might want to check the depth chart first.

Concerning the "8-9 men in the box" stuff. No they didn't do that every play, stupid. They did it the same amount that NDSU did.
If you watched the game, when NDSU had 2 TE's and a FB in the game UND packed it in with them. NDSU did the exact same thing when UND put 2 FB's and 1 TE in - did you see how many guys they had on the line of scrimmage. More than four I know that.

When NDSU spread them out they actually had their dime back in with them at times, meaning they could not have "8-9" guys in the box. It just seemed like that because they brought 6 and NDSU couldn't block them all. You guys are going to have issues up front vs. teams like UNI, Western, and SDSU if their defenses are as good as everyone claims.
True, except UND had no downfield passing attack to loosen the defense with. Wentz torched UND's secondary for most of the first half but UND continued to pack the box against the run. It's obvious where UND's defensive strengths and weaknesses are so it seemed odd that they would scheme to bolster their strong run defense and weaken their already porous pass defense. The cushion some of those CBs were giving NDSU's WRs was just begging NDSU to throw the ball.

[F'N Hawks]

True, except UND had no downfield passing attack to loosen the defense with. Wentz torched UND's secondary for most of the first half but UND continued to pack the box against the run. It's obvious where UND's defensive strengths and weaknesses are so it seemed odd that they would scheme to bolster their strong run defense and weaken their already porous pass defense. The cushion some of those CBs were giving NDSU's WRs was just begging NDSU to throw the ball.

Which obviously needs to be addressed. If you are going to get beat by a better team that likes to run the ball, you make sure they have to try and beat you through the air and hope you can make some plays. UND tried that and couldn't make any plays due to their corners not being good enough. Part of turning over the roster and finding better players.

[Thundar]

the gap is no closer today than it was 3 years ago.....und was totally overmatched and the QB was flustered from the stretches till the press conference

[BisonBacker]

All I know is if they thought this was going to help them in recruiting against NDSU they thought wrong. Any kid who had a chance to be either at the game or see it on TV or also experience the atmosphere at tailgating and in the dome makes it a no brainer.

[Bisonoline]

All I know is if they thought this was going to help them in recruiting against NDSU they thought wrong. Any kid who had a chance to be either at the game or see it on TV or also experience the atmosphere at tailgating and in the dome makes it a no brainer.

But they will think--hey I can play there(UND). LOL

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

If that is the criteria it looks like they are well on their way defensively. Might want to check the depth chart first.

Concerning the "8-9 men in the box" stuff. No they didn't do that every play, stupid. They did it the same amount that NDSU did.
If you watched the game, when NDSU had 2 TE's and a FB in the game UND packed it in with them. NDSU did the exact same thing when UND put 2 FB's and 1 TE in - did you see how many guys they had on the line of scrimmage. More than four I know that.

When NDSU spread them out they actually had their dime back in with them at times, meaning they could not have "8-9" guys in the box. It just seemed like that because they brought 6 and NDSU couldn't block them all. You guys are going to have issues up front vs. teams like UNI, Western, and SDSU if their defenses are as good as everyone claims.


UND run blitzed a lot during the game. You do not need to have 9 in the box to do that. 6-7 guys crashed hard on most running situations. When CW started to pick apart the defense, then UND backed off some on the blitzing. But that is the most blitzing I have seen from any team in the D1 era.

[DJnva]

http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/teams-ncaa/division-iaa-fcs/missouri-valley/north-dakota-state-bison/2015/09/21/carson-wentz-working-on-the-deep-ball/

Good stuff about Wentz and the deep ball.

[BisonFan02]

http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/teams-ncaa/division-iaa-fcs/missouri-valley/north-dakota-state-bison/2015/09/21/carson-wentz-working-on-the-deep-ball/

Good stuff about Wentz and the deep ball.

The dude is a player....wish he had even more WR weapons around him.

[BisonFan02]

https://vimeo.com/139939175

Pregame vid....the few UND fans around me were not overly impressed. xlolx

[Twentysix]

^^

That was pretty great. Of course there are so many inside references that it probably isn't as impressive to a non-NDSU fan.

Like the fact that every highlight clip is an FBS victory or a National Championship.