Whats you take on T.O?

[ForShizzleGrizzle]

With his contract dispute. I believe the team owes it to him. He is worth it.

[Libertine]

With his contract dispute. I believe the team owes it to him. He is worth it.

Is he worth it? Yes.

Do the Eagles owe it to him? No. The ink is barely dry on the first contract he signed with them. T.O. wants to blame his former agent for getting him a "sub-standard contract" but I'm pretty sure that you'd still find "Terrell Owens, Esquire" on the signature lines. I don't mind guys wanting to re-negotiate after several years when circumstances and personnel situations have changed but we're less than 3 months removed from his first season in green.

[saint0917]

With his contract dispute. I believe the team owes it to him. He is worth it.

The team doesn't owe it to him, they just re-did his contract last year, if he didn't like it he shouldn't have signed it. He should honor his contract. He's a great WR, but a real head case.

[NoCoDanny]

Trade him to Buffalo, I can't stand that guy.

[LacesOut]

Whoa!! What happened to the board?

[LacesOut]

As a die hard Eagles fan, don't re-structure the deal. He signed it, he plays by it.

[Bronco]

Question with his new agent will he hold out of camp if they don't renegotiate?
Hope he does...talented guy but his head is way too big.
Don't negotiate Eagles.

[GSUBass]

I thought he was pretty level headed off the field, but it seems that's changing.

[Marcus Garvey]

He's an $#*%ing moron! He's going about getting this the wrong way. Maybe the Eagles would restructure his deal, but he did miss 4 games (including 2 playoff games) and they didn't win the Super Bowl with him. His "dis" of McNabb to ESPN.com is incredibly dumb. He's talking smack about the guy who campaigned to get his ungrateful a$$ to Philly. He did a good job of getting people to think, "Maybe I was wrong about T.O.," but has now pissed it all away. He also claims the Eagles are smearing him in the press, which is not true. Would somone give his agent a "drive-by" please?

Personally, I'd like to see the Eagles trade him on Draft Day to get a high pick and take Mike Williams. Maybe San Diego? They pick 12th over all and already have a good RB and QB. I suspect he'll be a cancer, and they'll underachieve. They'll still win the NFC East, but lose in the playoffs. If he plays this year, it's most likely his last with the Eagles.

[ngineer]

As an Eagles fan I was skeptical about T.O. when the Eagles brought him in. He gradually won me over not only with his talent but his toughness and apparent commitment to the team concept. Thought is 'bad rep' was blown out of proportion. Guess I was premature. A contract is a contract, though I know in this day and age a man's word is meaningless. Although he's a talent, I hope the Eagles hold strong. If he holds out, so be it. Then *****can him. Philly has a lot of draft picks this year. I'd definitely think about trading up and grabbing a top receiver. FredX is going to be gone, as well....

[eaglefan452]

You just don't restructure a 7-year deal after the first year. I can see maybe in the 4th or 5th year, but after one season (which as someone already pointed out, he didn't even play in 4 games) is ridiculous.

[blueballs]

From what I understand the players' association advised Owens against signing the contract with the Eagles. He has no one to blame but himself. The shot he took at McNabb was uncalled for and I would think that alienating McNabb will earn him a ticket out of Philly.

Yo T.O. You signed a business agreement w/o coercion and took the money. Now earn it and live up to your end of the contract that you signed supposedly of sound mind and with good faith.

[ForShizzleGrizzle]

Why is it o.k for a team to cut a player when ever they feel the player is not performing up to standards even if there is a contract but when a player is playing well above his current wage and he wants to restructure is it not o.k? I believe he is well within his rights to request a new deal. Yes he missed four games but was there a reciever on their team with better numbers who played in more? Was there a better reciever on the field for philly in the super bowl? NFL contracts are not always a guarantee. If he was to get injured at any time he would lose all projected money. So in his defense maybe he realized this after he got hurt last year and knows that it can happen.

[blueballs]

Why is it o.k for a team to cut a player when ever they feel the player is not performing up to standards even if there is a contract but when a player is playing well above his current wage and he wants to restructure is it not o.k?

Because it was collectively bargained between the league and the players' union and is the mutually agreed upon rules that are in place pursuant to the current labor agreement.

[ForShizzleGrizzle]

So it is O.K for them to cut T.O if he for some reason performed not up to par and not fulfill their side of the contract?

[blueballs]

So it is O.K for them to cut T.O if he for some reason performed not up to par and not fulfill their side of the contract?

Yup, them's the rules. It is totally fair and legal too because it was collectively bargained in good faith between the owners/league and the players union.

[ForShizzleGrizzle]

Legal yes. Fair I don't know about that.

[colgate13]

trade his ass fast. He will be a cancer in future years. The honeymoon's over Philly. He was good for a year, then got injured. If you don't kow-tow to him now, he will be whining for the next season.

Get out now and get some young, fresh talent for your hard earned money.

[Fordham]

it's as though the guy has spidey sense for when he's being liked and he absolutely has to act in order to change that.

he was riding such a high following the SB as he became sort of the anti-Moss ... a mouthy player who actually stepped up, made his team better and, despite his rants, seemed to care more about winning than himself (or at least his own health).

then he goes and does this. some people thrive under hatred ... he's one of those guys.

[Marcus Garvey]

I believe he is well within his rights to request a new deal.

You are 100% correct sir. However, the Eagles are within their rights to tell T.O. to "Pound sand!"
It's not so much that he wants more money, it's how he's been campaigning about it that has infuriated Philly fans. Slagging McNabb on ESPN will not be easily forgiven by Eagles' fans.

Incidently, he produces when things are going well. Let's see what happens when the chips are down, which they hardly were for him last year. He only played in one game that Birds were never in, the Steelers game. Even the Super Bowl was close. If he's still the same guy he was in San Fran, then when he starts dropping passes, it will be everybodies fault but his own.

[blackfordpu]

A buddy of mine and I were discussing something similar to this earlier today. Why does he need a bigger contract? Are the millions he is getting now not enough for him? The way these guys complain is rediculous. I think the XFL had a good foundation going for them. You only get the big money if you win. That is how it should be. We need more guys in sports playing for the love of the game, not just so they can get a sponsorship deal worth millions. Get people out there who just want to play and see how much better the games are to watch. I believe that is why many people prefer college sports to "professional" ones.

Money does not equal winning, look at the Yankees.

[colgate13]

Money does not equal winning, look at the Yankees.
Hey :mad: leave them out of this!

:( :bawling:

;)

[ForShizzleGrizzle]

You only get the big money if you win

If this was the case the teams that suck would always suck. You wouldn't get any good players that would want to play for you. If you were a FA and you had to pick the team you wanted to go to you would only pick the team that wins. Why would you ever want to go to a losing franchise.

Think of the NFL as a business. If you worked at a company that you were the best employee in your field and there were others recieving a higher pay check would you want a raise? I would. If the company is banking big bucks because of your performance you should be able to negotiate for more money.

[blackfordpu]

So you disagree that their salaries are rediculous? They are playing a game for goodness sake, not saving the world or contributing to any greater good.

[ForShizzleGrizzle]

No their salaries are not rediculous. Do you pay for merchandise for your favorite team? Do you purchase tickets to watch them play. As soon as the franchise is not making millions upon millions of dollars from the fan that supports their team will the salaries not be as high. The owners should not bank millions of dollars and pay their players less. It is just like a business. If you are the one who is bringing in the money for the Co. than you should be paid more. The owner shouldn't reap all the benifits from your hard work and you recieve nothing. Lets be reasonable.

[blackfordpu]

No their salaries are not rediculous. Do you pay for merchandise for your favorite team? Do you purchase tickets to watch them play. As soon as the franchise is not making millions upon millions of dollars from the fan that supports their team will the salaries not be as high. The owners should not bank millions of dollars and pay their players less. It is just like a business. If you are the one who is bringing in the money for the Co. than you should be paid more. The owner shouldn't reap all the benifits from your hard work and you recieve nothing. Lets be reasonable.

No, I dont buy team merchandise and I dont pay for the tickets. The prices are too high and unreasonable. I will support them and watch them on TV but because of the high salaries and "state of the art" facilities the prices for everything else have gone way up. It will eventually get to the point where only the super fanatic or super rich will be able to attend the games and those times are rapidly approaching.

[ForShizzleGrizzle]

But as long as the seats get filled and the merchandise gets purchased the prices will remain the same and the salaries are justifiable. Its a business they will sell their product for whatever people will buy it. That will never change.