LSU gets invite to the Rose Bowl

[unknown-swac]

LSU has confirmed their invitation to play Michigan if USC beats UCLA and USC if UCLA beats USC. I wonder where that'll leave Florida if they beat Arkansas?

[ucdtim17]

Professional Dweeb Stewart Mandel tells it like it is:


As much as the public complains about the Irish and its preferential treatment, they invariably tune in to the game. For all the backlash about ND's Fiesta Bowl berth last year, the reality is that game drew much bigger ratings than it would have if Ohio State had faced Oregon instead. It'd be one thing if the BCS was under some obligation to make sure the undisputed 10 best teams go to their bowls, but that's not the case. If it were, you wouldn't be seeing Georgia Tech or Wake Forest in the Orange Bowl. Notre Dame is no less entitled to a BCS berth than those teams are, which is why you won't hear me complaining if the Irish go to the Sugar Bowl.

Only one game is about getting the best teams.

And as I said in response to Chickenman, it is not a strict calculation of TV ratings:


It's no secret that the large majority of college football fans no longer embraces the bowl system. They want a playoff. The BCS and the bowls themselves have spent considerable time and resources over the years defending their system against hordes of critics. If the Rose Bowl, the oldest and most revered of the bowl games, deprives the public of a potential No. 3 vs. No. 4 matchup in favor of a regular-season rematch that I'm not even sure the participants themselves want to see played, the bowl system will lose whatever credibility it had left with the public. Bowl people will no longer be able to argue with a straight face that they're serving the greater good of college football.

[griz37]

LSU has confirmed their invitation to play Michigan if USC beats UCLA and USC if UCLA beats USC. I wonder where that'll leave Florida if they beat Arkansas?

As a Michigan fan I say :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:

Should be a great game.

[LeopardFan04]

LSU has confirmed their invitation to play Michigan if USC beats UCLA and USC if UCLA beats USC. I wonder where that'll leave Florida if they beat Arkansas?


The SEC champ whether it be Florida or Arkansas goes to the Sugar Bowl if they are not selected for the championship game...also, the Big 12 champ goes to the Fiesta, and the ACC champ goes to the Orange...if one of the teams is chosen for the title game, then the bowl chooses someone else...basically that's what the Rose Bowl is doing since USC and Ohio St. will likely play in the BCS title game...if they weren't they'd both go to the Rose because of conference affiliations with the bowls...

[DuckDuckGriz]

Won't be half as good as Oregon and BYU in the Las Vegas Bowl
:D

[bluehenbillk]

I'll be psyched about an LSU-Michigan game, but I'll wait till Sunday night when it's confirmed to start my celebration.

[GoGuins]

As a Michigan fan I say :hurray: :hurray: :hurray:

Should be a great game.

Me too, but C'mon Bruins!!!

[MYTAPPY]

The thing I have heard is if Wake looses to Ga. Tech in the ACC Championship game, they could easily fall all the way down to Mieneke Care Care Bowl here in Charlotte. The reason being that the fan base is only an hour and a half from Charlotte. Its all about selling more tickets. Wake is getting shafted if that happens. They have a student body of only about 3 to 4 thousand. Nothing they can do about that. I can see the Gator and Peach Bowl saying, sorry, but we need to sell tickets...:bang:
Bowl directors are the devil.

Oh yea....Geaux Tigers!!!:hurray:

[DinoDex200]

I know Va Tech is slated for the Peach...but who goes to the Gator if Wake loses? BC? Maryland? Not like they have the best fanbases either...

[Pard4Life]

BOOO!

I'd like to see Michigan-California.. why the heck did they have to lose to Tennessee and Arizona St? :bang:

Hate seeing southern teams that don't belong in the Rose Bowl i.e. LSU...

Rose Bowl should be Pac10 vs. Big Ten or an eastern powerhouse.

Damn BCS!

[ucdtim17]

The Rose Bowl and the P10 and B10 should abandon the BCS and go back to the way it was.

[griz37]

The Rose Bowl and the P10 and B10 should abandon the BCS and go back to the way it was.

And Notre Dame should join the Big 10!

[unknown-swac]

BOOO!

I'd like to see Michigan-California.. why the heck did they have to lose to Tennessee and Arizona St? :bang:

Hate seeing southern teams that don't belong in the Rose Bowl i.e. LSU...

Rose Bowl should be Pac10 vs. Big Ten or an eastern powerhouse.

Damn BCS!

Why on earth would Cal deserve to go? First game of the season pretty much showed they dont deserve it. As far as should be Pac10 vs Big 10...well, you do have to keep in consideration that aside from USC the PAC-10 generally sucks ass. Same with the Big 10 when you take away OSU and Michigan.

[jstate83]

One thing's for sho.xlolx

Pasadena has never seen anything like the pre-game "tailgaters" headed their way out of Baton Rougue.xlolx
The may see bigger crowds, but that have never seen a crowd that's gonna be this VOCAL.......................AND DRUNK!! xlolx :beerchug: xlolx

Them MoFo's are off the chain.xlolx

[ucdtim17]

And Notre Dame should join the Big 10!


That'd be great for the Big 10 - too bad Notre Dame football is not a charity.

[ucdtim17]

Why on earth would Cal deserve to go? First game of the season pretty much showed they dont deserve it. As far as should be Pac10 vs Big 10...well, you do have to keep in consideration that aside from USC the PAC-10 generally sucks ass. Same with the Big 10 when you take away OSU and Michigan.


Yes the Pac 10 with 9 teams in the Sagarin top 40 :rolleyes:

The Big 10 has 5 with one more team than the Pac 10. They are not close. They have 2 I-AA losses plus another one that NDSU should have won.

[griz37]

That'd be great for the Big 10 - too bad Notre Dame football is not a charity.

Thats why I would like to see Big 10 teams stop playing Notre Dame. I really don't think the Big 10 needs Notre Dame's "charity".

[bison95]

Thats why I would like to see Big 10 teams stop playing Notre Dame. I really don't think the Big 10 needs Notre Dame's "charity".
:confused: :confused: if the Big 11 didn't play Notre Dame, then who would? They play 3-4 games every year, if not they wouldn't play a quality opponent except southern cal.

[griz37]

:confused: :confused: if the Big 11 didn't play Notre Dame, then who would? They play 3-4 games every year, if not they wouldn't play a quality opponent except southern cal.

My point exactly, if teams like USC, Michigan, Michigan St., Penn St. & Purdue stopped playing Notre Dame they would be forced to join a conference or play La. Lafayette, Middle Tennessee, Idaho & Central Florida in addition to the 3 service academies they already play. This is assuming of course that other big name teams also boycotted Notre Dame.

[ucdtim17]

Thats why I would like to see Big 10 teams stop playing Notre Dame. I really don't think the Big 10 needs Notre Dame's "charity".


A lot of Notre Dame fans like myself would love to call the Big 10's bluff and drop games if they won't play them after September. There are plenty of teams who would love a shot at Notre Dame - there's no reason to continue playing Purdue and Michigan State if they won't play in October or November.

[ucdtim17]

My point exactly, if teams like USC, Michigan, Michigan St., Penn St. & Purdue stopped playing Notre Dame they would be forced to join a conference or play La. Lafayette, Middle Tennessee, Idaho & Central Florida in addition to the 3 service academies they already play. This is assuming of course that other big name teams also boycotted Notre Dame.


That is quite an assumption and something that is not going to happen. There's a long line to get on ND's schedule and it is all planned out ten years down the road. ND is an independent for a reason and will not have any trouble putting together a quality schedule with a Big 10 boycott (that will never happen anyways - You know how much more money Purdue and MSU make when they have ND at home? ND makes the same no matter who they schedule. It's to their credit they don't line up directional and I-AA schools like certain Big 10 and SEC schools (all of them))

[ucdtim17]

ND's schedule's are ridiculously front loaded with major BCS conference teams when everyone else is playing cupcakes. Then when ND plays Navy and Stanford and their like later in the season, everyone else is playing conference games, so every ignorant moron likes to shout about how ND has such an easy schedule. The upcoming schedules are the same so most ND fans want AD Kevin White's head

[CollegeSportsInfo]

LSU has confirmed their invitation to play Michigan if USC beats UCLA and USC if UCLA beats USC. I wonder where that'll leave Florida if they beat Arkansas?

The SEC champion plays in the Sugar Bowl. Since only 2 teams from a conference can be in the BCS, it is a given that LSU is in. If Florida lost then they'd be below LSU in the BCS (an UF loss would drop them from #4 to below #5 LSU). And an Arkansas win gives them the automatic berth forcing Florida out. A Florida win means they go to the Sugar bowl.

The 3-team scenario is why Wisconsin is out of the BCS alreayd as well.

The Rose Bowl only had a few options despite getting the #1 and #2 selections (should USC beat UCLA):

Michigan
LSU
Boise St.
Notre Dame
Rutgers (if Rutgers beats WVU and Louisville beats UConn)

Still a BCS possibility:
Louisville (if Rutgers beats WVU and Louisville beats UConn)

Not Options/Out of BCS:
loser of Arkansas vs Florida
Wisconsin

[GannonFan]

My point exactly, if teams like USC, Michigan, Michigan St., Penn St. & Purdue stopped playing Notre Dame they would be forced to join a conference or play La. Lafayette, Middle Tennessee, Idaho & Central Florida in addition to the 3 service academies they already play. This is assuming of course that other big name teams also boycotted Notre Dame.

Come on, that's just bunk. First of all, they almost never play the 3 service academies - they almost never play Army. Heck, in 2007 they only play Navy (whom they always play) so they play just 1 service academy next year. They do always play Stanford, and they do always play Boston College. Stanford's been down lately but there was a time that Stanford was a pretty good game. BC can be a good game any year. And they always play USC. That's 4 games right there. And the other poster was right, teams line up to play Notre Dame - Nebraska played them, Florida St played them, Tennessee played them, UCLA played them, Georgia Tech played them, Pittsburgh played them, Washington played them, West Virginia played them, Texas A&M played them, BYU played them. And all of those teams are non-Big 10 teams and they all played Notre Dame at least once (and normally twice as most are home and homes) since 2000 alone. Notre Dame gets something from the Big 10 by playing Penn St, Michigan, Michigan St, and Purdue, but let's not pretend that the Big 10 is probably the bigger beneficiary of that since they get a national game (no matter where it's played) and getting to play Notre Dame means big audiences even if half the people watching hate Notre Dame - Michigan/Wisconsin doesn't begin to sniff the ratings that Michigan/Notre Dame does. Notre Dame would survive just fine without the Big 10 (without ever having LA-Monroe hit the schedule), but I think the Big 10 would miss those marquee games when they get to play Notre Dame.

[CollegeSportsInfo]

The Rose Bowl and the P10 and B10 should abandon the BCS and go back to the way it was.

Agreed. They should agree to free up their teams is a Big Ten or Pac 10 team is ranked #1 or #2. But they should be able to put in the #2 Pac 10 or #2 Big Ten team when that happens.

[griz37]

Come on, that's just bunk. First of all, they almost never play the 3 service academies - they almost never play Army. Heck, in 2007 they only play Navy (whom they always play) so they play just 1 service academy next year. They do always play Stanford, and they do always play Boston College. Stanford's been down lately but there was a time that Stanford was a pretty good game. BC can be a good game any year. And they always play USC. That's 4 games right there. And the other poster was right, teams line up to play Notre Dame - Nebraska played them, Florida St played them, Tennessee played them, UCLA played them, Georgia Tech played them, Pittsburgh played them, Washington played them, West Virginia played them, Texas A&M played them, BYU played them. And all of those teams are non-Big 10 teams and they all played Notre Dame at least once (and normally twice as most are home and homes) since 2000 alone. Notre Dame gets something from the Big 10 by playing Penn St, Michigan, Michigan St, and Purdue, but let's not pretend that the Big 10 is probably the bigger beneficiary of that since they get a national game (no matter where it's played) and getting to play Notre Dame means big audiences even if half the people watching hate Notre Dame - Michigan/Wisconsin doesn't begin to sniff the ratings that Michigan/Notre Dame does. Notre Dame would survive just fine without the Big 10 (without ever having LA-Monroe hit the schedule), but I think the Big 10 would miss those marquee games when they get to play Notre Dame.

My post was meant to be more of my personal pipe dream. I realize that the other conferences would step right up if the Big 10 boycotted ND.

[GannonFan]

My post was meant to be more of my personal pipe dream. I realize that the other conferences would step right up if the Big 10 boycotted ND.

Why boycott them? Because they are able to do the very same thing that any other school would do if they had the same capability? If Michigan knew that they could find a home for all of their non-football sports and could be an independent in football, with their very own national tv broadcaster, and be able to schedule any team in the nation, and be a part of the BCS post season if they qualified, that they wouldn't do the same thing too? Everyone in I-A football follows the money, that's why they are there.

Besides, Notre Dame, outside of athletics and especially football, would be a duck out of water in the Big 10, where most of the schools are huge land-grant state schools with massive graduate programs. Notre Dame, while a very fine undergrad school, is the furthest thing from that type of a school. Football rules a lot, but not everything.

[Pard4Life]

No way any team would ever boycotty Notre Dame. Do you imagine the gate for that game? Near-gauranteed sell-out!

[DinoDex200]

BOOO!
...or an eastern powerhouse.


File this phrase under "Modern College Football Oxymorons"

[Pard4Life]

File this phrase under "Modern College Football Oxymorons"

:confused: There are no eastern football powerhouses?

[DinoDex200]

:confused: There are no eastern football powerhouses?

Name one. They can't be (by your definition) in the Big 10 or "southern" like most of the schools in the ACC or SEC.