Phillies Rotation set

[ngineer]

Reported today that Randy Wolf signed a one year deal with the Dodgers and the PHils are signing Adam Eaton to a three year deal, subject to physical. Delucci is gone, havng signed with Cleveland. Phils drafted Eaton ten years ago as their #1 pick but traded him to San Diego a year or two later. Has potential, but history of injury...

[Ivytalk]

We've swapped one medical incredible for another. :rolleyes:

Yo, Gillick. get your sorry old azz out there and get us a slugging outfielder!:nod:

[Marcus Garvey]

Yo, Gillick. get your sorry old azz out there and get us a slugging outfielder!:nod:

I'd settle for a solid defensive third baseman who can hit more than 10 points above the "Mendoza Line."

http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mendoma01.shtml

[UNHWildCats]

hmm who was that they had???... umm Scott Rolen :p too bad that didnt work out for the Phills

[bluehenbillk]

Totally unimpressed with Gillick's "Stand Pat" approach to the offseason, not one move made to make the team better in a winnable National League.

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Totally unimpressed with Gillick's "Stand Pat" approach to the offseason, not one move made to make the team better in a winnable National League.

Once again the Phillies are not willing to open up the check book to get a big name in the free agent market (a Lee or Soriano would have been nice).

Then again, it seems a #3 or 4 starter will cost you $24 mil over three years. :eek:

The price tag on MLB free agents gets crazier every year.

[Marcus Garvey]

Once again the Phillies are not willing to open up the check book to get a big name in the free agent market (a Lee or Soriano would have been nice).

Then again, it seems a #3 or 4 starter will cost you $24 mil over three years. :eek:

The price tag on MLB free agents gets crazier every year.

I don't have a problem with it to be honest. They'll be mediocre again in 2007. Had Gillick gone crazy like some GM's are, the Phillies would still be mediocre with a higher payroll.

The free agent market this year is as nuts as the real estate market 9-12 months ago.

[GannonFan]

I disagree that the Phils would've been mediocre regardless of what they did. They were fine with what Soriano wanted in terms of $$/year, but they balked at the length of the contract. So he wanted 8 years and the Phils only wanted to give him 5? He'll be 30 y/o starting next year and the Phils balk at giving the guy some years past age 35? That's just plain weak in my estimation - getting Soriano would've sealed your lineup for the next half a decade and given you something reasonable to protect Howard (who's going to be 28 so I'm sure they're worried about his age too! ). And he was the only real good option out there (I don't mind passing on Carlos Lee - never a big fan of his). Now we're stuck with absolutely nothing. Are they going to seriously bring Burrell back? What a waste of an off-season so far - the only thing they've done is to hold serve on the pitchers by getting Eaton to replace Wolf - that's a wash. But there's still a gaping hole in left, a hole at 3rd, a hole at catcher, holes galore in the bullpen, and the biggest problem of all, that gaping hole in the lineup after Howard. I look forward to Howard threatening the all-time record for walks in a season when opposing teams get a whole year to pitch around him. He'll be lucky to hit 30 HR's this year with the lineup he'll be in. The Phils couldn't have done a worse job so far this off-season.

[BlueHen86]

hmm who was that they had???... umm Scott Rolen :p too bad that didnt work out for the Phills

Scott Rolen was a miserable puke. As much as I want the Phillies to win, good riddance.

Or as Rolen would say "Sorry about your luck."

[BlueHen86]

I disagree that the Phils would've been mediocre regardless of what they did. They were fine with what Soriano wanted in terms of $$/year, but they balked at the length of the contract. So he wanted 8 years and the Phils only wanted to give him 5? He'll be 30 y/o starting next year and the Phils balk at giving the guy some years past age 35? That's just plain weak in my estimation - getting Soriano would've sealed your lineup for the next half a decade and given you something reasonable to protect Howard (who's going to be 28 so I'm sure they're worried about his age too! ). And he was the only real good option out there (I don't mind passing on Carlos Lee - never a big fan of his). Now we're stuck with absolutely nothing. Are they going to seriously bring Burrell back? What a waste of an off-season so far - the only thing they've done is to hold serve on the pitchers by getting Eaton to replace Wolf - that's a wash. But there's still a gaping hole in left, a hole at 3rd, a hole at catcher, holes galore in the bullpen, and the biggest problem of all, that gaping hole in the lineup after Howard. I look forward to Howard threatening the all-time record for walks in a season when opposing teams get a whole year to pitch around him. He'll be lucky to hit 30 HR's this year with the lineup he'll be in. The Phils couldn't have done a worse job so far this off-season.
Agree, this has been a terrible offseason.

I think the biggest need is pitching and so far all they have done is trade Wolf of Eaton, IMO that's not enough.

The Phillies did lead the NL in runs scored last year. Getting Soriano would have been nice, but not mandatory. Upgrading the pitching is a must.

[ngineer]

If I recall the Phils did sign some young free agent for 3b--can't recall the name, though he batted .320 something for little over half a year. Does anyone recall the name and how much upside he has? I like Nunez as a glove, and I think for a season he'd bat .280-.300 but no real power. Once he had the everyday job last year, he did a better than average job. I think protecting Howard is #1 priority, with at least another good arm for the bullpen. Rotation should be adequate in this day and age--so long as they stay healthy. Eaton could blow up, again, and Grandpa Moyer could break down at anytime--though I think his presence is a real plus.

[LeopardFan04]

If I recall the Phils did sign some young free agent for 3b--can't recall the name, though he batted .320 something for little over half a year. Does anyone recall the name and how much upside he has? I like Nunez as a glove, and I think for a season he'd bat .280-.300 but no real power. Once he had the everyday job last year, he did a better than average job. I think protecting Howard is #1 priority, with at least another good arm for the bullpen. Rotation should be adequate in this day and age--so long as they stay healthy. Eaton could blow up, again, and Grandpa Moyer could break down at anytime--though I think his presence is a real plus.

Wes Helms...although I'd still like Abe as a late inning defensive replacement...

[Mr. C]

Reported today that Randy Wolf signed a one year deal with the Dodgers and the PHils are signing Adam Eaton to a three year deal, subject to physical. Delucci is gone, havng signed with Cleveland. Phils drafted Eaton ten years ago as their #1 pick but traded him to San Diego a year or two later. Has potential, but history of injury...
Glad to see my Dodgers grab Randy Wolf. He has always pitched well at Dodger Stadium and coming home will help him a bunch. I covered the first game Wolf pitched at Dodger Stadium for the Los Angeles Times (one of my last days working for the Times) when as a prep junior he led his El Camino Real High School team to the Los Angeles City championship. I remember the shortstop for Wolf's team was a kid named Daniel Cey, the son of Dodgers third baseman Ron Cey and a player who reached Triple A in his own right. Wolf pitched his school to another title there a year later and has pitched well there ever since.

[Mr. C]

I disagree that the Phils would've been mediocre regardless of what they did. They were fine with what Soriano wanted in terms of $$/year, but they balked at the length of the contract. So he wanted 8 years and the Phils only wanted to give him 5? He'll be 30 y/o starting next year and the Phils balk at giving the guy some years past age 35? That's just plain weak in my estimation - getting Soriano would've sealed your lineup for the next half a decade and given you something reasonable to protect Howard (who's going to be 28 so I'm sure they're worried about his age too! ). And he was the only real good option out there (I don't mind passing on Carlos Lee - never a big fan of his). Now we're stuck with absolutely nothing. Are they going to seriously bring Burrell back? What a waste of an off-season so far - the only thing they've done is to hold serve on the pitchers by getting Eaton to replace Wolf - that's a wash. But there's still a gaping hole in left, a hole at 3rd, a hole at catcher, holes galore in the bullpen, and the biggest problem of all, that gaping hole in the lineup after Howard. I look forward to Howard threatening the all-time record for walks in a season when opposing teams get a whole year to pitch around him. He'll be lucky to hit 30 HR's this year with the lineup he'll be in. The Phils couldn't have done a worse job so far this off-season.
If you study the history of long-term deals like the one Soriano signed with the Cubs and wanted from the Phillies, most of them backfire rather badly for the teams. Soriano is likely to have a few good years, but he will likely fade out long before his contract ends.

[ngineer]

Glad to see my Dodgers grab Randy Wolf. He has always pitched well at Dodger Stadium and coming home will help him a bunch. I covered the first game Wolf pitched at Dodger Stadium for the Los Angeles Times (one of my last days working for the Times) when as a prep junior he led his El Camino Real High School team to the Los Angeles City championship. I remember the shortstop for Wolf's team was a kid named Daniel Cey, the son of Dodgers third baseman Ron Cey and a player who reached Triple A in his own right. Wolf pitched his school to another title there a year later and has pitched well there ever since.

Yeah, I was sorry to see Wolfie go.. I think he could flourish after a full year of rehab from the Tommy John surgery. What I would call a 'crafty' pitcher--doesn't blow people away, but can be very effective once he gets into a groove.

[GannonFan]

If you study the history of long-term deals like the one Soriano signed with the Cubs and wanted from the Phillies, most of them backfire rather badly for the teams. Soriano is likely to have a few good years, but he will likely fade out long before his contract ends.

Well, for a franchise that will hit the magical 10,000 loss plateau next year (not sure but they may be the first team in any sport anywhere in the world to hit that mark) and one who hasn't made the playoffs in over 13 years and one that's only made the playoffs once in the past 23 years, I'd gladly mortgage years 6,7, and 8 down the road for some good 5 years before then. Howard and Utley are both approaching 30 so now's the time to make a move.