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BisonFan02
March 20th, 2016, 11:00 PM
Savage comments from Barkley......ouch. xlolx

bonarae
March 20th, 2016, 11:02 PM
Meanwhile...

'Nova is the only FCS left in the Sweet 16. Can't believe UNI did an NBA-style collapse xsmhx xbawlingx

Tomorrow:
CBI
Duquesne at Morehead State, 7 PM
EWU at Nevada Reno, 10 PM

NIT
George Washington at Monmouth, 7 PM

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 20th, 2016, 11:04 PM
Savage comments from Barkley......ouch. xlolx

Barkley made more intelligent comments after this game than he has all tournament. He's right about the inbounding. I know there's pressure and they're college kids but UNI literally committed every cardinal sin possible. They would have better off just heaving it to the other end and if Texas A&M got the ball just D up.

bonarae
March 20th, 2016, 11:06 PM
Tennessee-Martin bows out of the postseason with an OT loss to Ball State.

Vegas 16 Field (just 8 eligible teams accepted the invite):
Day 1 - March 28
Tennessee Tech vs. ODU
UCSB vs. NIU
Oakland vs. Towson
Louisiana Tech vs. ETSU

Can't believe Vegas 16 is still proceeding... there were still that few teams who perservered and never backed out.

BisonFan02
March 20th, 2016, 11:07 PM
Barkley made more intelligent comments after this game than he has all tournament. He's right about the inbounding. I know there's pressure and they're college kids but UNI literally committed every cardinal sin possible. They would have better off just heaving to the other end and if Texas A&M got it just D up.

Don't disagree....doesn't mean they weren't savage. I 100% share his thoughts...except I can't even put them in words.

Bisonoline
March 20th, 2016, 11:14 PM
Don't disagree....doesn't mean they weren't savage. I 100% share his thoughts...except I can't even put them in words.

Yeah its hard to come up with the words to describe the way they fell apart. Cant say Ive ever seen anything like it.

Laker
March 20th, 2016, 11:16 PM
Down 12 with 44 seconds to go, Texas A&M comes back to send it to OT.


UNI loses that game makes me want to puke. Don't jump into the air to pass.


At least my close personal friend Bronson Koenig hit the buzzer beater winner for Wisconsin.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 20th, 2016, 11:23 PM
One thing I never got in basketball is when guys get trapped and feel pressure why they feel the need to force the issue with a pass. Sometimes just throwing it no one or to an area is a MUCH better decision. It's somewhat along the lines of throwing the ball up in the air at the end of the game. Hockey uses a similar strategy. If nothing else it will run some time and if you don't rifle it out of bounds you give your team a 50/50 chance at retaining the ball.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 20th, 2016, 11:46 PM
St. Joe's up 4 on Oregon with about 4 minutes to go! C'mon Hawks! Make up for UNI's loss! We need another non-P5 in the Sweet 16!

JayJ79
March 20th, 2016, 11:52 PM
I don't have a whole lot I can say since my team isn't in the postseason at all

FIFY

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 21st, 2016, 12:10 AM
Oregon fills out the Sweet 16 with a 69-64 win over St. Joe's. The Hawks really fell apart the final 5 minutes of the game. Ugh....

clenz
March 21st, 2016, 12:14 AM
Unbelievable all the way around.......I don't have a whole lot I can say since my team isn't in the round of 32, but this finish was absolutely ****ing embarrassing for UNI.

Embarrassing for UNI? **** that.

**** what anyone outside of the program thinks or says. It ****ing sucks but **** your bull****.

You would trade your **** ass program for UNI's in a ****ing second. I would rather have me team lose the way it did tonight than be sitting on its ****ing couch going "man, wouldn't it be nice to get to be playing still" at this point.

Jan 23 this team was 10-11 and 2-6 in conference play. It was ****ing dead. They could have easily packed it in and said **** it. Instead they ****ing fought. They accomplished something way beyond the ****ing tournament this year. The legacy those three seniors laid with how they fought to turn it around. The class how they handled every damn second of this season, including post game press conference tonight. Everything UNIs program represents is what all but about 30 or 40 of the 350 programs in division 1 strive to be from top to bottom

This loss sucks. Marty Bo not being able to inbound like he has for the last few years sucked. A couple of the calls were atrocious. None of that bull**** changes this season. This damn season was a roller coaster and I'd ****ing do it again

BisonFan02
March 21st, 2016, 02:36 AM
Embarrassing for UNI? **** that.

**** what anyone outside of the program thinks or says. It ****ing sucks but **** your bull****.

You would trade your **** ass program for UNI's in a ****ing second. I would rather have me team lose the way it did tonight than be sitting on its ****ing couch going "man, wouldn't it be nice to get to be playing still" at this point.

Jan 23 this team was 10-11 and 2-6 in conference play. It was ****ing dead. They could have easily packed it in and said **** it. Instead they ****ing fought. They accomplished something way beyond the ****ing tournament this year. The legacy those three seniors laid with how they fought to turn it around. The class how they handled every damn second of this season, including post game press conference tonight. Everything UNIs program represents is what all but about 30 or 40 of the 350 programs in division 1 strive to be from top to bottom

This loss sucks. Marty Bo not being able to inbound like he has for the last few years sucked. A couple of the calls were atrocious. None of that bull**** changes this season. This damn season was a roller coaster and I'd ****ing do it again

Holy **** clenz...settle the **** down. And no....I would not trade NDSU for UNI. You did give me a thread idea though I may explore tomorrow. For now, it might be time for you to take a self imposed "24 hour" break before you completely go off the deep end. I would too if the Bison did the same thing.

Thumper 76
March 21st, 2016, 09:07 AM
I didn't think it was possible for anything to make me feel better about the Meltdown in Missoula. Thanks UNI Basketball.

Not sure if this makes me an asshole but that was my first thought.


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BisonFan02
March 21st, 2016, 09:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwKSwwcdyU

Reggie Miller's 8 points in 9 seconds....that's what last night reminded me of.

ysubigred
March 21st, 2016, 09:17 AM
WOW!! I was pulling for UNI! Hate SEC teams!!

After all the **** Clenz said about YSU I'll leave it alone xpeacex

bluehenbillk
March 21st, 2016, 11:59 AM
Haha did you see last years Super Bowl when Seattle passed on the 1 yard line & got picked? What a Northern Iowa! Yep, UNI is now a verb.

clenz
March 21st, 2016, 04:34 PM
Senior guard Matt Bohannon tore his ACL in the last minutes of the game....then went back out and played 2 OT's trying to get the win for his team.

None of you are around this area to know the kind of impact these players have off the court. I can say how great they are and it will sound like typical speak about a player. Those three seniors...what they meant to the program, the university, and the community of Cedar Falls can't be overstated. The class in which they carried themselves is impossible to put into words.

Damn, I'm going to miss them.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 21st, 2016, 05:04 PM
Kid showed great heart to come back in and try to fight for his team. UNI did have a solid season especially when you consider where they were in the dead of winter. But they did show their potential earlier in the year so it's not a complete Cinderella season.

With that said, UNI is getting killed today in the media. It's pretty much been the lead story all day. It truly was the greatest collapse in tournament history. It sucks but it will live with UNI for a very long time.....

clenz
March 21st, 2016, 08:50 PM
Underwood gone...twice


Was gone to K State before Okie State got him

TheRevSFA
March 21st, 2016, 09:06 PM
Well we don't have the cash to compete with T Boone Pickens

with what happened yesterday and this today, it's like having your dog die then your girlfriend leave you

BisonFan02
March 21st, 2016, 09:35 PM
Well we don't have the cash to compete with T Boone Pickens

with what happened yesterday and this today, it's like having your dog die then your girlfriend leave you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSH_riW7V8s

Here's a reenactment.

bonarae
March 21st, 2016, 10:25 PM
Monmouth was unceremoniously thrashed at home by George Washington, 87-71. xsmhx

Morehead State advances into the CBI semifinals by beating Duquesne 82-72.

Eastern Washington - Nevada Reno game is in progress.

CHIP72
March 21st, 2016, 11:02 PM
The thing about the Northern Iowa loss is on the second-to-last possession of regulation (i.e. the one immediately before the Texas A&M steal that led to a layup that tied the game), the UNI player didn't need to pass the ball (no more 5 second rule) AND UNI had the possession arrow. He should have left the Texas A&M players foul him or even try to force a tie-up; the former would have allowed the Panthers to shoot free throws and the latter would have killed extra precious time and allowed UNI to retain possession.

It should be noted UNI's execution at the end of the first overtime was almost as bad as it was at the end of regulation. IMO, they should have advanced the ball beyond half court, called timeout (they had one remaining), and set up a play...which is exactly what Wisconsin did against Xavier a few minutes later (and we saw what happened there). Northern Iowa probably still would have had 3 to 4 seconds to work with in that scenario. Even if they don't want to call timeout because of their inbound challenges, they could have dribbled the ball up the floor and gotten at worst a 20-25 foot shot.

mvemjsunpx
March 22nd, 2016, 02:10 AM
The thing about the Northern Iowa loss is on the second-to-last possession of regulation (i.e. the one immediately before the Texas A&M steal that led to a layup that tied the game), the UNI player didn't need to pass the ball (no more 5 second rule) AND UNI had the possession arrow. He should have left the Texas A&M players foul him or even try to force a tie-up; the former would have allowed the Panthers to shoot free throws and the latter would have killed extra precious time and allowed UNI to retain possession.

No. They only eliminated the 5-second rule for a closely guarded player dribbling. The 5-second rule for a closely guarded player just holding the ball still exists.


It should be noted UNI's execution at the end of the first overtime was almost as bad as it was at the end of regulation. IMO, they should have advanced the ball beyond half court, called timeout (they had one remaining), and set up a play...which is exactly what Wisconsin did against Xavier a few minutes later (and we saw what happened there). Northern Iowa probably still would have had 3 to 4 seconds to work with in that scenario. Even if they don't want to call timeout because of their inbound challenges, they could have dribbled the ball up the floor and gotten at worst a 20-25 foot shot.

Yeah. Jesperson jacked that half court shot with a full 5 seconds on the clock. There was enough time for an A&M player to rebound it & jack a long one of his own.

bonarae
March 22nd, 2016, 03:28 AM
Nevada beats EWU, 85-70.

FCS teams remaining as of March 22:
NCAA
Villanova

NIT
Valpo

CBI
Morehead State

CIT
Columbia
Coastal Carolina

Vegas 16 (yet to play):
ETSU
Towson
Tennessee Tech

CHIP72
March 22nd, 2016, 05:53 PM
No. They only eliminated the 5-second rule for a closely guarded player dribbling. The 5-second rule for a closely guarded player just holding the ball.

If the 5 second rule still exists, then the officials failed to call it in that situation because I think the UNI player held it for more than 5 seconds.


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clenz
March 22nd, 2016, 05:55 PM
If the 5 second rule still exists, then the officials failed to call it in that situation because I think the UNI player held it for more than 5 seconds.


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The 5 second rule doesn't go into play until the player picks his dribble up.

If you don't dribble there's no 5 second

SFA 93
March 22nd, 2016, 06:13 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeK8KjOUMAAsvIM.jpg

Most Watched NCAA Tourney game so far.

1.) Indiana vs. Kentucky (6.86)
2.) SFA vs. Notre Dame (5.81)

SFA #1 most engaged hoops program on all social media platforms.

bonarae
March 22nd, 2016, 10:28 PM
Meanwhile...

Steve Pikiell is off to Rutgers as the Scarlet Knights' next head coach, their third in four or five years.

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2016-03-22/rutgers-basketball-stony-brooks-steve-pikiell-named-next-head

clenz
March 23rd, 2016, 09:33 AM
What kind of buy out did SFA have for Underwood?

If you're going to lose your coach you may as well make money on it.

For someone to buy Jacobson out of his contract at UNI is 4.5 million dollars for the next about 4 or 5 years.

Laker
March 23rd, 2016, 09:45 AM
The 5 second rule doesn't go into play until the player picks his dribble up.

If you don't dribble there's no 5 second

Not sure if this was the case, but at least in high school ball there is no 5 second count in the backcourt because of the 10 second rule. I once had that called on the road- girl never dribbled, just pivoted and the ref called 5 seconds. I reminded his partner that there is no 5 second count in the backcourt and his reply was that the other guy called it. From that point we got every call until the end of the game- and the upset win.

mvemjsunpx
March 23rd, 2016, 12:02 PM
What kind of buy out did SFA have for Underwood?

If you're going to lose your coach you may as well make money on it.

For someone to buy Jacobson out of his contract at UNI is 4.5 million dollars for the next about 4 or 5 years.

His deal had about $2.4 million over 6 years left, as for the buyout…


Underwood's buyout was considered small and will decrease each year, meaning he still could be poached by a higher-profile school.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10971260/brad-underwood-coach-stephen-f-austin-lumberjacks-signs-contract-extension

clenz
March 23rd, 2016, 12:10 PM
His deal had about $2.4 million over 6 years left, as for the buyout…




http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10971260/brad-underwood-coach-stephen-f-austin-lumberjacks-signs-contract-extension
That's what smaller budgeted schools need to get into contracts.

Make the school taking him pay for it.

Between UNI's buy out and what it would take for a salary increase to make Jake go "Wow" it's going to cost any new school a absolute bare minimum of 6.5 to 7 million dollars up front.

4.5m buy out
Jake turned down 2.5m from A&M a few years ago.

UNI has him safe from someone that isn't extremely desperate with EXTREMELY deep pocketed donors on those numbers alone.

BisonFan02
March 23rd, 2016, 09:55 PM
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBqxmvu.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44

bonarae
March 24th, 2016, 01:21 AM
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBqxmvu.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f



Link?

BisonFan02
March 24th, 2016, 01:39 AM
Link?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/the-best-college-basketball-team-in-every-state-regardless-of-division/ss-BBqxp6w#image=1

Nova09
March 24th, 2016, 11:04 AM
GAMEDAY!

clenz
March 24th, 2016, 12:14 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/the-best-college-basketball-team-in-every-state-regardless-of-division/ss-BBqxp6w#image=1
Interesting to look at Iowa on that one

Iowa State was Iowa's winner with 10.23 points

Winning Percentage (2010-2015): .673
NCAA Tournament Appearances since 2000: 7
Final Four Appearances since 1975: None
National Championships since 1975: None
NABC Player of the Year Awards since 1982: None
NABC Coach of the Year Awards since 1975: None


If you take UNI over that same period they have 10.18 points

Winning Percentage (2010-2015): .668
NCAA Tournament Appearances since 2000: 7
Final Four Appearances since 1975: None
National Championships since 1975: None
NABC Player of the Year Awards since 1982: None
NABC Coach of the Year Awards since 1975: None


Yet, Iowa gets second mention with 10.11 points...da fuq?

Winning Percentage (2010-2015): .542
NCAA Tournament Appearances since 2000:
Final Four Appearances since 1975: 1 (1979-1980)
National Championships since 1975: None
NABC Player of the Year Awards since 1982: None
NABC Coach of the Year Awards since 1975: None

BisonFan02
March 24th, 2016, 12:53 PM
Interesting to look at Iowa on that one

Iowa State was Iowa's winner with 10.23 points

Winning Percentage (2010-2015): .673
NCAA Tournament Appearances since 2000: 7
Final Four Appearances since 1975: None
National Championships since 1975: None
NABC Player of the Year Awards since 1982: None
NABC Coach of the Year Awards since 1975: None


If you take UNI over that same period they have 10.18 points

Winning Percentage (2010-2015): .668
NCAA Tournament Appearances since 2000: 7
Final Four Appearances since 1975: None
National Championships since 1975: None
NABC Player of the Year Awards since 1982: None
NABC Coach of the Year Awards since 1975: None


Yet, Iowa gets second mention with 10.11 points...da fuq?

Winning Percentage (2010-2015): .542
NCAA Tournament Appearances since 2000:
Final Four Appearances since 1975: 1 (1979-1980)
National Championships since 1975: None
NABC Player of the Year Awards since 1982: None
NABC Coach of the Year Awards since 1975: None




You're putting too much thought/care into the map....it was just a lol factor for SDSU and another map they are not on. :D

clenz
March 24th, 2016, 01:06 PM
You're putting too much thought/care into the map....it was just a lol factor for SDSU and another map they are not on. :D
I was just curious as to how UNI would fare....and then I got confused as to how they figured Iowa would be next when UNI is closer to Iowa State

Iowa also has not made the S16 during the time frame for NCAA appearances since 2000. They have the fewest. They have the fewest NCAA wins over that time. They are the only one to not have made a S16.

Much like their football name being carried by a few good years in the 70s and 80s, Hawkeye basketball is only kept out of third place in the state of Iowa by a Final Four run lead by a guy who now has two sons on UNI's roster for the next two years, after one already being on campus for 2 years....and another former Hawkeye player of the 80s has a son on the UNI team and a daughter on the UNI womens team (Jeremy Morgan's dad played in the mid-80s). Keeping the Iowa athletes sending their kids to Cedar Falls? Matt Bohannons father? Gordy Bohannon - the Iowa QB for the 1981 Big 10 championship team that played in the Rose Bowl

bonarae
March 24th, 2016, 07:03 PM
Meanwhile...

Valpo advances to the NIT semifinals, winning over Saint Mary's (CA) 60-44 last Tuesday.

Columbia, Coastal Carolina both advance to the CIT semifinals, winning both of their respective matches by 2 points.

Morehead State is in the CBI final, playing against Nevada Reno on March 28 for the CBI title.

BTW, just curious. Why are CBI, CIT and V16 all 4th-tier tournaments? Where is the 3rd-tier tournament now? xchinscratchx

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 24th, 2016, 09:37 PM
Villanova crushes Miami 92-69. Really impressive performance by the 'Cats. I have a hard time seeing Oregon or Duke beating them. Ochefu is the difference....

tribe_pride
March 24th, 2016, 09:42 PM
Villanova crushes Miami 92-69. Really impressive performance by the 'Cats. I have a hard time seeing Oregon or Duke beating them. Ochefu is the difference....

They play the Kansas/Maryland winner - likely Kansas.

Oklahoma will play the Oregon/Duke winner

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 24th, 2016, 09:56 PM
They play the Kansas/Maryland winner - likely Kansas.

Oklahoma will play the Oregon/Duke winner

You're right, not sure how I screwed that up....xthumbsupx

Laker
March 25th, 2016, 08:40 AM
No close games in the NCAA D1 last night. Kind of disappointing.

344Johnson
March 25th, 2016, 09:40 AM
No close games in the NCAA D1 last night. Kind of disappointing.

Notre Dame/Wisco should be close tonight.

Thumper 76
March 25th, 2016, 11:52 AM
You're putting too much thought/care into the map....it was just a lol factor for SDSU and another map they are not on. :D

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160325/c0a277a252de452baf081470c1d636b7.jpg

Laker
March 25th, 2016, 09:31 PM
Virginia handles Iowa State.

Notre Dame steals the ball and beats Wisconsin.

Excuse me as I throw up my fish supper.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 25th, 2016, 09:56 PM
Virginia handles Iowa State.

Notre Dame steals the ball and beats Wisconsin.

Excuse me as I throw up my fish supper.

Wisconsin pulled a mini UNI by giving up 8 points in the final 19 seconds. Guard play is huge this time of the year and Wisconsin lacked one this year without Traevon Jackson.

Either way, the East Regional Final will either be an ACC battle or Indiana battle....

clenz
March 25th, 2016, 10:10 PM
Wisconsin pulled a mini UNI by giving up 8 points in the final 19 seconds. Guard play is huge this time of the year and Wisconsin lacked one this year without Traevon Jackson.

Either way, the East Regional Final will either be an ACC battle or Indiana battle....

That extrapolates to the same point per second given up. Essentially just as bad as UNI.

bonarae
March 26th, 2016, 07:23 AM
And...

Gonzaga collapses in the final minutes to give away the game to another ACC opponent, Syracuse.

Oh no. Sounds like the Elite Eight will be a dud. xsmhx

TheRevSFA
March 26th, 2016, 10:26 AM
Frustrating as I think SFA could have beat Wisconsin.

Guess we will never know

Laker
March 26th, 2016, 11:43 AM
Oh no. Sounds like the Elite Eight will be a dud. xsmhx

The only team that I want to win anymore is Virginia. All of the others seem like the same old same old to me.

tribe_pride
March 26th, 2016, 02:15 PM
The only team that I want to win anymore is Virginia. All of the others seem like the same old same old to me.

Of the 8 left:
UNC has won 5 times - last in 2009 (18 Final Four Appearances)
Kansas has won 3 times - last in 2008 (14 Final Four Appearances)
Syracuse has won once - 2003 (5 final four appearances)
Nova has won once - 1985 (4 final Four appearances)
Oregon has won once - 1939 (1 Final Four Appearances)

Those with no Championship victories
Notre Dame - 1 Final Four appearance
Virginia - 2 Final Four Appearances
Oklahoma - 4 Final Four Appearances

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 26th, 2016, 11:02 PM
There will be an FCS school in the Final 4. Villanova takes down Kansas 64-59 to advance to Houston. Villanova will take on Oklahoma in Houston...

Go Lehigh TU Owl
March 27th, 2016, 09:12 PM
Syracuse is headed to the Final 4! It was a combination of Virginia choking and Boeheim making some great adjustments down the stretch. I grew up a huge 'Cuse fan and have remained a strong follower as an adult. I'm stoked!

Laker
March 27th, 2016, 11:01 PM
UNC, Oklahoma, Syracuse, Villanova are in the Final Four.

clenz
March 28th, 2016, 09:08 AM
The season is still happening?

bonarae
March 28th, 2016, 09:26 AM
Unfortunately, the "dud" of a season is still happening.

Valpo will host BYU in the NIT semifinals tomorrow.

The CBI has its finals game 1 tonight, Nevada at Morehead State. Game 2 on March 30, Nevada will play host.

In the CIT, Columbia will host UC Irvine tomorrow for the CIT title rights, time TBD.

Vegas "16", with only 8 teams for its inaugural season, finally starts tonight. ETSU, Towson and Tennessee Tech are the FCS teams participating.

bonarae
March 28th, 2016, 11:37 PM
Tennessee Tech is suddenly going home by losing to ODU, and Towson will go home too by losing big to Oakland U. Morehead State is one game away from winning the CBI this year, withstanding a Nevada rally to close the game.

bonarae
March 29th, 2016, 03:03 AM
ETSU completes the nightcap with a big win over Louisiana Tech.

Tonight's games:

BYU at Valpo
UC Irvine at Columbia
ETSU vs. Oakland U

Nova09
March 29th, 2016, 05:27 PM
Finneran and Kacie doing the Nova team specific stream on either TNT or TruTV (Oklahoma getting their version on the other)

Cayleigh rumored to be dating Arch (completely unsubstantiated and also unrelated except to remind people of this http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?178777-Kacie-or-Cayleigh

bonarae
March 29th, 2016, 09:09 PM
Valpo is on to the NIT finals; they will face the winner of George Washington/San Diego State on April 1.

Columbia wins the CIT title; they survived UC Irvine 73-67.

bonarae
March 30th, 2016, 07:54 AM
ETSU says goodbye to the postseason by a thrashing by Oakland U 104-81.

Valpo will face George Washington for the NIT championship.

bonarae
March 31st, 2016, 06:13 PM
Nevada forces a game 3 in the CBI championship against Morehead State.

Tonight, Valpo will face George Washington for the NIT title.

dgtw
April 2nd, 2016, 11:02 AM
Is there some consensus as to whether the CBI or CIT is considered a better one to play in or are both pretty much the same in terms of completion or reputation?


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bonarae
April 2nd, 2016, 06:19 PM
Is there some consensus as to whether the CBI or CIT is considered a better one to play in or are both pretty much the same in terms of completion or reputation?

Pretty much the same...

Go Lehigh TU Owl
April 2nd, 2016, 06:54 PM
Villanova leads Oklahoma 42-28 at half. The Wildcats look extremely impressive...

BisonFan02
April 2nd, 2016, 08:12 PM
What a ****ing beat down by Nova over OK.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
April 2nd, 2016, 08:26 PM
I'm not a fan of certain things Villanova but that was f'ing impressive! Holy chit!

With that said! Go 'Cuse!!

BisonFan02
April 2nd, 2016, 08:30 PM
I'm not a fan of certain things Villanova but that was f'ing impressive! Holy chit!

With that said! Go 'Cuse!!

Wouldn't that be something....a Nova/Cuse championship...

Laker
April 2nd, 2016, 10:47 PM
Neither game has been close tonight.

I can't remember a Final Four that I've been less interested in. I hope that Villanova can beat UNC.

bonarae
April 3rd, 2016, 01:17 AM
OK... just a fact...

In 4 of the 5 postseason tournaments in men's basketball this year, there was an FCS team in the tournament's championship game. (Villanova, Valpo, Morehead State and Columbia)

SFA 93
April 3rd, 2016, 01:28 PM
ESPN is reporting that Texas A&M assistant and recruiting guru Kyle Keller to be named new head coach of @SFA_MBB (https://twitter.com/SFA_MBB). Story coming.

Twentysix
April 3rd, 2016, 05:04 PM
ESPN is reporting that Texas A&M assistant and recruiting guru Kyle Keller to be named new head coach of @SFA_MBB (https://twitter.com/SFA_MBB). Story coming.

Sorry for your loss. You guys sure got a lot out of your previous coach.

Laker
April 3rd, 2016, 11:12 PM
South Dakota State fans:

http://www.keloland.com/news/article/sports/mbk-nagy-leaving-sdsu-for-wright-st

clenz
April 4th, 2016, 12:03 AM
They should go after Marty Simmons from Evansville.

UE is the worst funded MVC school. His stock will never be higher at UE than right now. He was a finalist at Wright State, a massive step down. Chances are you'd pay him more than UE is. They've cut their funding 7 straight years, or something like that. He is looking for an out.

He runs a system that would do very well in The Summit. He would do well at SDSU I'd think.

Laker
April 4th, 2016, 08:37 AM
They should go after Marty Simmons from Evansville.

UE is the worst funded MVC school. His stock will never be higher at UE than right now. He was a finalist at Wright State, a massive step down. Chances are you'd pay him more than UE is. They've cut their funding 7 straight years, or something like that. He is looking for an out.

He runs a system that would do very well in The Summit. He would do well at SDSU I'd think.

Sounds good to me. I don't want MSU's coach Matt Margenthaler to go back to SDSU where he was an assistant for Nagy. I'd like him to stay in Mankato.

Nova09
April 4th, 2016, 09:22 AM
Gameday!

clenz
April 4th, 2016, 11:04 AM
Sounds good to me. I don't want MSU's coach Matt Margenthaler to go back to SDSU where he was an assistant for Nagy. I'd like him to stay in Mankato.
Marty is a catch-22. I think he's a better coach than his record at UE indicates.

The case for Marty:
Evansville is not a good place to be a coach. The funding is horrendous. I believe he is the lowest paid coach in the MVC and his budget for assistants, recruiting, travel, etc... is being cut every year for nearly a decade. With what he's had to work with it's pretty incredible what he has done to take that program from where ti was with Jim Crews when it left the Midwestern Collegiate Conference after the 93-94 season. UE was pretty dominant in that league, but within one recruiting cycle they went from averaging 20ish wins per year in the MCC to going just 63-52 in the first 4 years of the MVC. Year 5, 1998-99 they made the NCAA tournament and then the wheels fell off. Records for the program after that were 18-12, 14-16, 7-21.. Jim Crews then left and Steve Merfield went 12-16, 7-22, 11-17, 10-19, 14-17. That's when Marty came in for the 07-08 year. He went 9-21, 17-14, and 9-21 his first three years, but then his recruiting and style kicked in. He found guys like Colt Ryan (http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/colt-ryan-1.html) to run his system. Since then he's gone 16-16, 16-16, 21-15, 14-19, 24-12, and 25-9. He followed Colt Ryan up with DJ Ballentine (http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/dj-balentine-1.html) and Egidijus Mockevicius (http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/egidijus-mockevicius-1.html). He also filled the roster in with more talent top to bottom than had been seen in decades this past year. Trend wise, looking only at the past, things are going well. What Marty has done at UE is about the same as what Trent Miles did to Indiana State football. An alum that believed in the program and got players to buy into it and built something from literally nothing.

His system would do very well at a place like SDSU. He'd go from the smallest budget to one of the two largest in the conference. He's produced a large number of 1st and 2nd team All MVC guys, but the MVC has been better at the top than the Summit and he couldn't get over that hump. He runs an extreme motion offense with one guy (Colt Ryan and then DJ Ballentine) running off of 900 screens per possession and being a shooter. Everyone knows it's coming but still couldn't stop DJ or Colt. He can recruit good talent from Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee. Let him be able to sell knowing the area and playing schools in the area like WIU, IUPUI and IPFW to draw those kids to SDSU plus the area talent around Brookings and you've got a dangerous mix.

The bad about Marty:
He had UE's best team in history and 2 of the best players in college basketball with Egidijus Mockevicius and DJ Ballentine and still couldn't even get an NIT bid. That's largely because of his scheduling. Marty is known for running a tour de SWAC/MEAC in the OOC to boost his record before MVC play. He'd almost always enter conference play between 8-4 and 11-1, but only finished over .500 in conference play twice - this year he tied for second and 2012-2013 he finished 4th with a 10-8 record. Other than that he's gone 3-15, 8-10, 3-15, 9-9, 9-9, 10-8, 6-12, 9-9, 12-6 with finishes of 10, t-5, 10, 6, T-3 but tie break was 7th for them, 4, t-8, 5, t-2. This year he went 12-6 in conference but 1-5 against the rest of the top 4 (WSU, ISUr and UNI). The one win was the first game of the year against that group and was against ISUr. He ended the OOC schedule 11-2 but wins were SEMO, non-D1, Belmont, Santa Clara, Irvine, Bama State, Murray State, Miss Valley State, Norfolk State, Fresno State and Bama A&M.

Had he played a OOC SOS of closer to 100 he'd have had about the same record and a SOS better than 300 something. Likely makes the NIT at that point.

He scheduled that way to save his job. Pressure is building against him because of his lack of results in conference play, but he is a UE alum and is a golden child there (to an extent). He thought a gaudy record with everything he would have on the team for talent this year would get him an NCAA or NIT bid...and he was real close to the NCAA bid. But his schedule backfired in the end. Fans are now starting to see the issues with him - thanks largely to issues being pointed out by other MVC team fans.

Mock lead the nation in rebounds, double doubles, by a LARGE margin. He grabbed a double double just by walking on the court most nights. DJ, and Colt before, were two of the more prolific scorers in the nation. His issue is that he is so set in his system to have one guy be "the man" it actually held a guy like Mock back. He could have been a 20/20 guy had Marty let the system run through him. He's had other guards with talent that were unused on offense. Teams couldn't stop DJ (or Colt) but they could let the other guys do whatever they wanted and not have to worry about it. Watch the MVC title game between UNI and UE and you'll see exactly that. The first half UNI focused all of their effort on DJ/Mock because they knew the other UE players didn't have the green light. It wasn't until the second half when DJ told those guys to shoot that they made the run at UNI. Those guys hit shots and UNI had to help off of DJ just a bit and give him 1/2" and he'll take 900 shots.



Why he'd be looking elsewhere:
I think Marty has done all he can do at UE. He loves UE. UE loves him. I think it's time to move on for both parties though. I don't think Marty is going to take UE further, and UE certainly isn't going to take Marty further. He has less than a full recruiting cycle left on his contract, and that makes him a lame duck coach to current recruiting classes. He won't be getting a raise. It's why he looked at Wright State. That's a step down. It's worse funded than UE and pays less BUT it can move him to other jobs moving forward. I think he knows his options are play out his contract (or get fired) at UE and have 3 years, tops, as a HC and then a career bouncing around as an assistant for maybe a decade before calling it quits. That doesn't fit who he is. A new school is going to give him at least 4 years. A place like SDSU has money and resources to let him be successful in the Summit, which probably gives him 7-8 years as long as he doesn't bomb out. He's only 51. That would let him coach until he's 58-60. He'd retire and move on, leaving SDSU in a better place. He also loses about 7 guys so far to graduation, transfer, and going back to Europe. That includes nearly his entire roster that actually played.

The top 5 scorers that are gone:
1. DJ Balentine - grad
2. Egidijus Mockevivius - grad
3. Jaylon Brown - transfer
4. Mislav Brzoja - go back to Europe to play pro
5. Adam Wing - senior
Harris Brown - their top freshman is transferring. Likely the next DJ/Colt in the system.

That leaves him with a returning roster of
SR Christian Benzon - 1.8 ppg 1.3 rpg .3 apg
SR Duane Gibson - 2.0 ppg 1.8 rpg 2.0 apg
SR David Howard - 2.0 ppg 1.4 rpg, .1 apg
SR Blake Simmons - 5.9 ppg 2.0 rpg, 2.9 apg
SR Sergej Vucetic - 1.1 ppg, .3 rpg, .2 apg
SR Willie Wiley - 2.4 ppg, 2.0 rpg, .1 apg
JR Ryan Taylor - zero stats


Yep, that's the entire roster for next year. That is less, COMBINED, than DJ or Mock did ON THEIR OWN. Zero underclassmen. Only 1 player that isn't a senior.


Why he won't go anywhere this year:
2 words - his son. His son is set to be a senior this year on the team, and one of it's best returning players. Not saying much - see the previous section. Blake would ride the end of the bench at UNI, WSU, ISUr and play sparsely at Indiana State, Southern Illinois, or Loyola. HOWEVER, Blake will be a "true" senior. He won't have a 5th year grad transfer to let him follow his dad. He couldn't straight transfer as he doesn't have 2 years of eligibility left. Marty is a UE guy. Marty wants Blake to be a UE guy. He won't put Blake in that situation.



He really is a mixed bag, but I think most of the bad comes from being at UE in the MVC, and not him as a coach

Laker
April 4th, 2016, 01:48 PM
Five potential replacements for Nagy at SDSU:

http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/2016/04/04/five-candidates-replace-scott-nagy/82596644/

Nova09
April 4th, 2016, 01:53 PM
4. Mislav Brzoja - go back to Europe to play pro


He could have had final four points if he had been in place of lowe missing those 2 fts

clenz
April 4th, 2016, 02:06 PM
Five potential replacements for Nagy at SDSU:

http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/2016/04/04/five-candidates-replace-scott-nagy/82596644/
Interesting list.

Marty may not get an interview. May not be on the radar. His agent will contact SDSU though.

SDSU is in an odd spot and now has the issue NDSU will have. Good enough to get better names trying to climb but they won't be around long - do well and get hired away or do poorly and get fired to try to save positive momentum.

A D2 guy might come off as too low profile for some though

Thumper 76
April 4th, 2016, 02:48 PM
South Dakota State fans:

http://www.keloland.com/news/article/sports/mbk-nagy-leaving-sdsu-for-wright-st

This situation has given the usd fan collective a massive hard on.

BisonFan02
April 4th, 2016, 02:53 PM
This situation has given the usd fan collective a massive hard on.

.......mmmmyeah I can't do it. :D

Thumper 76
April 4th, 2016, 03:01 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MKo7um4.gif


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BisonFan02
April 4th, 2016, 03:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MKo7um4.gif


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There aren't many NDSU/SDSU sporting events where a Bison fan wouldn't leave without at least a "semi". xlolx xthumbsupx

We could also rename the Dakota Marker the "Bison D". xrotatehx

Thumper 76
April 4th, 2016, 03:11 PM
There aren't many NDSU/SDSU sporting events where a Bison fan wouldn't leave without at least a "semi". xlolx xthumbsupx

We could also rename the Dakota Marker the "Bison D". xrotatehx

What a coincidence, after those events I usually want to drink until I can't even get a "semi" xlolx

BisonFan02
April 4th, 2016, 03:26 PM
What a coincidence, after those events I usually want to drink until I can't even get a "semi" xlolx

This thread has slowly become my favorite offseason thread. :D xlolx

Thumper 76
April 4th, 2016, 03:35 PM
This thread has slowly become my favorite offseason thread. :D xlolx

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6bmcgbj2e1rziwwco2_500.gif
xlolx

BisonFan02
April 4th, 2016, 03:47 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6bmcgbj2e1rziwwco2_500.gif
xlolx

I gotta go spread some rep. xlolx

BisonFan02
April 4th, 2016, 11:29 PM
WOW......................****ing A Nova!

POD Knows
April 4th, 2016, 11:31 PM
Holy crap, awesome game. I am not really a basketball fan but the NCAA men's tournament is always unbelievable

TheRevSFA
April 4th, 2016, 11:32 PM
Wow!

clenz
April 4th, 2016, 11:40 PM
That's pretty legit...and I know a thing or two about buzzer beaters

Laker
April 4th, 2016, 11:41 PM
The last two minutes of that game were something else. Those last two shots were unbelievable.

Nova did it again.

LeadBolt
April 5th, 2016, 12:03 AM
Great game! Congrats to the Wildcats for besting the Tar Holes!

bonarae
April 5th, 2016, 12:53 AM
Wow. Sadly, wasn't able to get even a single second of live action. NCAA and Turner killed off all international coverage of March Madness. xsmhx

Lehigh'98
April 5th, 2016, 05:42 AM
That was incredible!! What a shot!!

OL FU
April 5th, 2016, 07:37 AM
Congrats Villanova!!!!!

Laker
April 5th, 2016, 08:30 AM
No classes at Villanova today.

I'm not sure about UNC but that is another story altogether.

jacksfan29
April 5th, 2016, 01:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he is in the mix, but so far the name hasn't come up anywhere. Sell has a lot of ties to the MVC so anyone from that conference would not surprise me.

As for who I think it is? The only D2 coach with a shot is Billeter from Augustana (your safe Laker, MM is not coming to SDSU). It is rumored Billeter is interviewing at Milwaukee but it seems like he would like to stay in the area and it has long been rumored he covets the SDSU job. I

think the three top are, in random order:

T.J. Otzelberger, Iowa State
http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=46662&SPID=4252&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=507699&Q_SEASON=2015

Ryan Miller, UNLV
http://www.unlvrebels.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ryan_miller_906698.html

Tom Billeter, Augustana
http://www.goaugie.com/staff.aspx?staff=11

Miller's ties to South Dakota, and his current family ties to SDSU (Macy Miller, cousin Alan's daughter) will earn him an interview. He has shown interest in SDSU before plus his recruiting background and knowledge of the SD, MN, NE, IA area and his national connections should/could make him a front runner.


Interesting list.

Marty may not get an interview. May not be on the radar. His agent will contact SDSU though.

SDSU is in an odd spot and now has the issue NDSU will have. Good enough to get better names trying to climb but they won't be around long - do well and get hired away or do poorly and get fired to try to save positive momentum.

A D2 guy might come off as too low profile for some though

Hambone
April 5th, 2016, 03:55 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he is in the mix, but so far the name hasn't come up anywhere. Sell has a lot of ties to the MVC so anyone from that conference would not surprise me.

As for who I think it is? The only D2 coach with a shot is Billeter from Augustana (your safe Laker, MM is not coming to SDSU). It is rumored Billeter is interviewing at Milwaukee but it seems like he would like to stay in the area and it has long been rumored he covets the SDSU job. I

think the three top are, in random order:

T.J. Otzelberger, Iowa State
http://www.cyclones.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=46662&SPID=4252&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=10700&ATCLID=507699&Q_SEASON=2015

Ryan Miller, UNLV
http://www.unlvrebels.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ryan_miller_906698.html

Tom Billeter, Augustana
http://www.goaugie.com/staff.aspx?staff=11

Miller's ties to South Dakota, and his current family ties to SDSU (Macy Miller, cousin Alan's daughter) will earn him an interview. He has shown interest in SDSU before plus his recruiting background and knowledge of the SD, MN, NE, IA area and his national connections should/could make him a front runner.

Any one of those three would be a great hire I would think. You can have Brian Jones if you want xthumbsupx

clenz
April 5th, 2016, 03:57 PM
Any one of those three would be a great hire I would think. You can have Brian Jones if you want xthumbsupx
He's the only UNI related guy you can have.

POD Knows
April 5th, 2016, 04:00 PM
Any one of those three would be a great hire I would think. You can have Brian Jones if you want xthumbsupx

Jones won barefoot coach of the year, so he has that going for him, which is good.

BisonFan02
April 5th, 2016, 04:05 PM
Any one of those three would be a great hire I would think. You can have Brian Jones if you want xthumbsupx

I think its about time you guys gave him a raise and extension. :D

Nova09
April 5th, 2016, 04:54 PM
That's pretty legit...and I know a thing or two about buzzer beaters

Strange though that Arch didn't go with the strategy of a 60 foot shot with 4 seconds left.

(kidding! kidding! you had a great run!)

HailSzczur
April 6th, 2016, 11:51 AM
I've finally returned to reality here. Didn't go down to Houston, but was basically a zombie all day yesterday. I was in the Pavilion for the game watch, partied in the quad til 1:00, finally went to bed at 3:00 and got up for work at 6:30. Needless to say it was an unproductive day.

But god damn that was pretty much the best thing that has happened in my 23 years as a Nova fan (Sorry Matt Szczur). I still can't believe it. It finally set in last night in the football stadium when the team arrived home, trophy in hand. I will admit, I shed a tear seeing that. I'm just so unbelievably proud of our guys

TheRevSFA
April 6th, 2016, 11:54 AM
I've finally returned to reality here. Didn't go down to Houston, but was basically a zombie all day yesterday. I was in the Pavilion for the game watch, partied in the quad til 1:00, finally went to bed at 3:00 and got up for work at 6:30. Needless to say it was an unproductive day.

But god damn that was pretty much the best thing that has happened in my 23 years as a Nova fan (Sorry Matt Szczur). I still can't believe it. It finally set in last night in the football stadium when the team arrived home, trophy in hand. I will admit, I shed a tear seeing that. I'm just so unbelievably proud of our guys

They were selling tickets for next to nothing on Monday. I was offered some but had a previous obligation. Gave them to a coworker

Laker
April 7th, 2016, 11:42 AM
Some people really are stupid. And I would blame them for trying.


per Athlon:


Remember the National Championship game between North Carolina and Villanova? Of course you do.


The UNC-Nova game will probably go down as one of the greatest in title game history. The insane shot by Marcus Paige and then the game-winner by Kris Jenkins is enough to keep fans talking for a long time. It was a horrible way to lose, and the Tar Heels fans aren't taking it lightly.


According to change.org, a group of UNC fans have started a petition to get the national title game overturned due to poor officiating. Obviously, this isn't going to happen but you can't blame dedicated fans for trying.


"This game was poorly officiated from the tip off to the end," the petition states. "It was a one-sided called game all the way through. The officials called fouls against UNC that should have not been called and never called Villanova for the fouls they committed. The officials never called Villanova for multiple travel violations either. Also I want a complete investigation into the officials as it was them that decided the game, not who played better."


So far it has 113 of 500 signatures. What's going to happen when it gets to 500, the world may never know.


http://athlonsports.com/college-bask...eels-villanova

mvemjsunpx
April 7th, 2016, 09:44 PM
According to change.org, a group of UNC fans have started a petition to get the national title game overturned due to poor officiating.

"This game was poorly officiated from the tip off to the end," the petition states. "It was a one-sided called game all the way through. The officials called fouls against UNC that should have not been called and never called Villanova for the fouls they committed. The officials never called Villanova for multiple travel violations either. Also I want a complete investigation into the officials as it was them that decided the game, not who played better."

I'm sure this will be one of the first executive orders issued by President Bernie Sanders. xcoffeex

Twentysix
April 8th, 2016, 05:36 AM
South Dakota State fans:

http://www.keloland.com/news/article/sports/mbk-nagy-leaving-sdsu-for-wright-st

Pffffffft. The horizon? Next their football coach is going to leave for the Big Sky.

Seriously, he really went to a bad team in a conference that is rated like 1/2 of DI behind the Summit?

http://s24.postimg.org/wb42hiw45/final_conference_RPI.png

Laker
April 13th, 2016, 07:37 PM
http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/south-dakota-state-university/2016/04/13/report-iowa-state-assistant-named-sdsu-coach-thursday/82996872/

Jacks to name Iowa State assistant as head coach.

Thumper 76
April 13th, 2016, 10:31 PM
http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/south-dakota-state-university/2016/04/13/report-iowa-state-assistant-named-sdsu-coach-thursday/82996872/

Jacks to name Iowa State assistant as head coach.

Pretty meh for me. Seems like a good coach, I just don't know how I feel about a guy who has a losing record in his career coaching. From what was posted on sdsufans showing his record outside of the run Iowa State had with Hoiberg, not awesome. Not his fault per say, doesn't mean he's a bad coach, but there's something to be said for coming from a winning tradition. I'm not much of a basketball mind however, so my opinion should be taken for what it is. Jack **** xlolx.

Laker
April 14th, 2016, 03:51 PM
http://www.startribune.com/memphis-hires-tubby-smith-as-tigers-new-basketball-coach/375719321/


Tubby goes from Texas Tech, in the Big 12, to Memphis. 5 years for $15.45 million, including $2.8 million next season, $2.9 million for 2017-18 and $3.25 million each of the last three seasons.

bonarae
April 15th, 2016, 06:53 AM
Meanwhile... former Harvard assistant coach Yanni Hufnagel is going places once again - this time to CBI champion Nevada Reno...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25547635/former-cal-assistant-yann-hufnagel-is-joining-nevadas-coaching-staff

clenz
April 15th, 2016, 04:03 PM
http://www.wtmj.com/sports/college/exclusive-uwm-had-milwaukee-native-tj-otzelberger-tabbed-but-hired-lavall-jackson

Update: Thursday, April 14, 4:35 p.m.

UWM tells me all finalists were extended the offer to bring their families when they were invited to come to Milwaukee for final interviews.

Update: Wednesday, April 13, 10:14 a.m.

A spokesperson from UW-Milwaukee contracted me Wednesday morning to share a few points regarding the hiring process.

1. The search committee used in the hiring process does not permit candidates to be ranked.

2. The search committee presented a finalist report - ranking the strengths and weaknesses of the finalists - to (among others) Athletic Director Amanda Braun, and Chancellor Mark Mone. Among the criteria for selection were:
- Win/loss record
- Quality of academics at the candidate's place of employment
- References

3. The decision to hire LaVall Jordan was a collaborative decision.


My original story from Tuesday night

The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee hired a new head basketball coach Thursday, April 7th. LaVall Jordan comes to Milwaukee (http://www.wtmj.com/shows/sports-central/relationship-building-to-define-lavall-jordans-role-as-new-uwm-panthers-basketball-coach) from Michigan where he served as an assistant under Head Coach John Beilein for six seasons.

Many consider Jordan to be a rising star in the coaching industry, and it was only a matter of time before he landed a head coaching gig.

But questions surrounding the interview process remain.

1. After the interview process, was Jordan the first choice of Athletic Director Amanda Braun and the university-hired search committee?

2. If so, who over-ruled the decision?

Speaking with people close to the process over the past few days, the answer to question number 1 is "no," and the answer to question number 2 is "Chancellor Mark Mone."

Because the hiring process is controlled by the state, the University is not at liberty to reveal who the finalists for the job were quite yet.

On Tuesday, the University was able to confirm with me that each finalist was provided a memorandum of understanding (MOU), and would be brought to Milwaukee to meet with Braun, the search committee, and Mone.

The MOU is not a contract, but major terms of a potential contract are outlined in the document.

The University would not confirm, but I learned through sources that T.J. Otzelberger - a Milwaukee native, UW-Whitewater product and Iowa State assistant - was a finalist. As part of the process, Otzelberger drove from Ames, Iowa to Milwaukee last week and met with the University decision-makers on Wednesday, April 6.

Following his meeting, Otzelberger was told he would be the next head basketball coach at UW-Milwaukee. The Milwaukee native was preparing to make the hiring official on Thursday.

In addition, Otzelberger was given the OK to have his wife and two young children make the drive from Iowa to Milwaukee so they could be a part of an introductory press conference.

The timeline for LaVall Jordan's visit is similar to Otzelberger's.

Jordan was first interviewed in Houston the night before the NCAA semi-final games. Jordan met with Braun, the search firm and Mone on Wednesday, April 6. According to Jordan, he accepted the offer Thursday and was introduced to the media on Friday.

So what really happened here?

It is my conclusion (a conclusion that is shared by others) that Braun and the search committee were in favor of Otzelberger, but at the last minute, were overruled by Monre.

Another question:

3. Why go to the trouble of hiring a search committee only to overrule their recommendation?

In a recent article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/rob-jeter-helped-black-boys-b99688288z1-372576281.html), a lack of diversity in the athletic department was brought to light...an issue inherited by Braun.

As stated before, many believe LaVall Jordan is a great hire for the University. Many also believe that TJ Otzelberger has a bright future.

The pedigree and readiness of either candidate is not in question. The way the hiring process played out most certainly is. That leads me to a fourth and final question.

4. With all eyes on the hiring of a new head basketball coach, how could the situation been handled so poorly?

Thumper 76
April 15th, 2016, 04:08 PM
http://www.wtmj.com/sports/college/exclusive-uwm-had-milwaukee-native-tj-otzelberger-tabbed-but-hired-lavall-jackson

Update: Thursday, April 14, 4:35 p.m.

UWM tells me all finalists were extended the offer to bring their families when they were invited to come to Milwaukee for final interviews.

Update: Wednesday, April 13, 10:14 a.m.

A spokesperson from UW-Milwaukee contracted me Wednesday morning to share a few points regarding the hiring process.

1. The search committee used in the hiring process does not permit candidates to be ranked.

2. The search committee presented a finalist report - ranking the strengths and weaknesses of the finalists - to (among others) Athletic Director Amanda Braun, and Chancellor Mark Mone. Among the criteria for selection were:
- Win/loss record
- Quality of academics at the candidate's place of employment
- References

3. The decision to hire LaVall Jordan was a collaborative decision.


My original story from Tuesday night

The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee hired a new head basketball coach Thursday, April 7th. LaVall Jordan comes to Milwaukee (http://www.wtmj.com/shows/sports-central/relationship-building-to-define-lavall-jordans-role-as-new-uwm-panthers-basketball-coach) from Michigan where he served as an assistant under Head Coach John Beilein for six seasons.

Many consider Jordan to be a rising star in the coaching industry, and it was only a matter of time before he landed a head coaching gig.

But questions surrounding the interview process remain.

1. After the interview process, was Jordan the first choice of Athletic Director Amanda Braun and the university-hired search committee?

2. If so, who over-ruled the decision?

Speaking with people close to the process over the past few days, the answer to question number 1 is "no," and the answer to question number 2 is "Chancellor Mark Mone."

Because the hiring process is controlled by the state, the University is not at liberty to reveal who the finalists for the job were quite yet.

On Tuesday, the University was able to confirm with me that each finalist was provided a memorandum of understanding (MOU), and would be brought to Milwaukee to meet with Braun, the search committee, and Mone.

The MOU is not a contract, but major terms of a potential contract are outlined in the document.

The University would not confirm, but I learned through sources that T.J. Otzelberger - a Milwaukee native, UW-Whitewater product and Iowa State assistant - was a finalist. As part of the process, Otzelberger drove from Ames, Iowa to Milwaukee last week and met with the University decision-makers on Wednesday, April 6.

Following his meeting, Otzelberger was told he would be the next head basketball coach at UW-Milwaukee. The Milwaukee native was preparing to make the hiring official on Thursday.

In addition, Otzelberger was given the OK to have his wife and two young children make the drive from Iowa to Milwaukee so they could be a part of an introductory press conference.

The timeline for LaVall Jordan's visit is similar to Otzelberger's.

Jordan was first interviewed in Houston the night before the NCAA semi-final games. Jordan met with Braun, the search firm and Mone on Wednesday, April 6. According to Jordan, he accepted the offer Thursday and was introduced to the media on Friday.

So what really happened here?

It is my conclusion (a conclusion that is shared by others) that Braun and the search committee were in favor of Otzelberger, but at the last minute, were overruled by Monre.

Another question:

3. Why go to the trouble of hiring a search committee only to overrule their recommendation?

In a recent article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/rob-jeter-helped-black-boys-b99688288z1-372576281.html), a lack of diversity in the athletic department was brought to light...an issue inherited by Braun.

As stated before, many believe LaVall Jordan is a great hire for the University. Many also believe that TJ Otzelberger has a bright future.

The pedigree and readiness of either candidate is not in question. The way the hiring process played out most certainly is. That leads me to a fourth and final question.

4. With all eyes on the hiring of a new head basketball coach, how could the situation been handled so poorly?


Seeing some things about what's going on at UW-M, looks like Otz lucked out getting to go to a much more stable situation. Haven't looked real close at it, but it sure seems all is not well for the panthers.

SFA 93
April 15th, 2016, 06:01 PM
New video board going up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgGXV20UMAAyxhT.jpg

Laker
April 15th, 2016, 07:13 PM
Chris Beard leaves UNLV for Texas Tech less than a week after taking the job.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15210975/chris-beard-coach-texas-tech-red-raiders-less-week-accepting-unlv-job

Twentysix
April 16th, 2016, 09:55 AM
Seeing some things about what's going on at UW-M, looks like Otz lucked out getting to go to a much more stable situation. Haven't looked real close at it, but it sure seems all is not well for the panthers.

The Wisconsin system in general is having problems. I wouldn't be surprised if it filters into the athletic department.

Laker
April 22nd, 2016, 09:01 AM
Northern Colorado coach fired.

http://www.greeleytribune.com/sports/21694508-113/breaking-unc-mens-hoops-coach-fired-bears-under

SFA 93
April 22nd, 2016, 04:43 PM
New video board up at the Sawmill

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cgq963fUYAA_zNb.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cgq962pUYAAUERB.jpg

SFA 93
April 24th, 2016, 04:27 PM
New SFA head coach Kyle Keller tearing up the recruiting trail

signed...

F: Leon Gilmore III 6-7; 230 Manvel, Texas (Manvel/Creighton/Trinity Valley C.C.) *** (247Sports) #67 National; *** (Rivals) #134 National; *** (ESPN) #32 SF; #12 State
Offers from Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, UNLV, Texas A&M, Baylor, Houston, Creighton, TCU, and Texas Tech out of High School
Offers from SFA, LSU, Georgia, Arkansas-Little Rock, FIU, Colorado State out of JUCO

G: Aaron Augustin 5-11; 170 Suwanee, Georgia (Miller Grove) *** (ESPN) #37 G; #14 State
Offers from SFA, East Tennessee State, Furman, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Mercer, Middle Tennessee State, Towson, UT-Martin, IUPUI, Alcorn State, Chattanooga, High Point, Tennessee Tech, interest from Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Clemson

G: Daeshon Francis 6-4; 197 Indianapolis, Indiana (Lawrence North/Green Bay/Midland College) *** (247 Sports) #74 SG; #14 State
Offers from SFA, Green Bay-Wisconsin, IPFW, Gardner-Webb, UMKC

PPG:18.0;RPG:6.1;APG:3.3; 1st Team All-Conference

SFA 93
April 29th, 2016, 11:56 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChOCxc9UUAEmHOe.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChOCxdsU4AAGipQ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChOJIgGUUAA2ePQ.jpg

SFA 93
April 29th, 2016, 05:39 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/SFA_MBB/status/726161301618057216/video/1

Laker
May 11th, 2016, 08:35 AM
This is what is wrong with college sports. Does it happen in other places too? Sure. But clean up your own house first.


Lots of problems in Gopher basketball going back to Musselman.


An internal U audit reveals Gophers coach Petino spent triple his budget in second season.


http://www.startribune.com/pitino-far-exceeded-budget-for-private-jet-travel-university-of-minnesota-audit-finds/378906491/