2015-2016 Men's Basketball Thread

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Monmouth-Iona going down to the wire. This has been a great game from the start....

[bonarae]

Ugh. Monmouth down to ex-FCS Iona... they choked once again to them. xbawlingx

[Thumper 76]

I don't either.....but break out the sprinkles! Cuz we're winners! :D

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They gotta win first.

Glad that was a tiring game for you guys however. Miller should be fresh though....


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[Laker]

Glad that was a tiring game for you guys however. Miller should be fresh though....


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Anyone know why he wasn't playing? He had to be the most relieved guy in the world that they came back to win.

[BisonFan02]

Glad that was a tiring game for you guys however. Miller should be fresh though....


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True....but really though....I give Dupree the start. He's earned it. I don't like the Bison's chances for the championship, but crazier **** has happened.

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Anyone know why he wasn't playing? He had to be the most relieved guy in the world that they came back to win.

Suspended for the game....no idea why yet....

[Laker]

I've never heard of this before:

Wow. Green Bay play-by-play announcer Matt Menzel was just ejected from the game. #MotorCityMadness (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MotorCityMadness?src=hash) #HLMBB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HLMBB?src=hash)

[Thumper 76]

True....but really though....I give Dupree the start. He's earned it. I don't like the Bison's chances for the championship, but crazier **** has happened.

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Suspended for the game....no idea why yet....

Absolutely. Hopefully SDSU takes care of business so tomorrow is another showdown.


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[bonarae]

Well...

Will this year's NIT be more interesting than this year's Big Dance? The latter is somewhat diluted indeed. xsmhx

[Thumper 76]

I've never heard of this before:

Wow. Green Bay play-by-play announcer Matt Menzel was just ejected from the game. #MotorCityMadness (https://twitter.com/hashtag/MotorCityMadness?src=hash) #HLMBB (https://twitter.com/hashtag/HLMBB?src=hash)

Would love to hear the radio call


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[bonarae]

OH NO! Wichita State and Monmouth will both have to sweat out! xsmhx xbawlingx

[Laker]

Valpo just scored on a full court baseball pass after a free throw to put it into OT against Green Bay.

I think I've seen them do that before from Valpo.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Iona wins 79-76! That was a helluva game. The Gaels will be trouble...

Hopefully Monmouth gets an at large. The MAAC always has a couple of legit Mid-Majors. The Hawks resume suggests they should get in. They seem perfect for the First 4.

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Valpo just scored on a full court baseball pass after a free throw to put it into OT against Green Bay.

I think I've seen them do that before from Valpo.

Bryce Drew!! I still remember that game against Ole Miss in '97 like it was yesterday...

[TheRevSFA]

I hope Monmouth gets in. It just surprised me how bad their last possession was

also congrats ndsu on beating ft wayne and getting to the final

[bonarae]

Hopefully Monmouth gets an at large. The MAAC always has a couple of legit Mid-Majors. The Hawks resume suggests they should get in. They seem perfect for the First 4.

Hopefully they should get in but they may become a 2016 version of the 2011 Harvard squad xsmhx

[Laker]

Iona wins 79-76! That was a helluva game. The Gaels will be trouble...

Hopefully Monmouth gets an at large. The MAAC always has a couple of legit Mid-Majors. The Hawks resume suggests they should get in. They seem perfect for the First 4.

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Bryce Drew!! I still remember that game against Ole Miss in '97 like it was yesterday...

I was giving a test that hour. Kids were done and asked to turn on the TV. Of course I agreed and we saw that miracle pass/shot.

[IBleedYellow]

I can't believe we won. Win another for Scottie.

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[BisonFan02]

I can't believe we won. Win another for Scottie.

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I was going through the 5 stages of grief fast early...and up and down the entire rest of the game. I'm exhausted. xlolx

[Thumper 76]

I can't believe we won. Win another for Scottie.

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I can't believe you did either. NDSU lead for 4 seconds total. Impressive grit.


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[clenz]

I hate WSU but Jesus Christ, if Iona, Valpo and Monmouth are at large teams how the **** isn't WSU?

Beating up on the damn MAAC or Horizon isn't impressive at all.

Nice thing is if the AL pool is Monmouth and Iona, plus all the top seeds in the low major tournaments falling so far UNI at an 11 or 12 is looking pretty good.

[bonarae]

Valpo has to sweat out as well. xsmhx

Why did conferences create conference tournaments to begin with? xsmhx I still like the way the Ivies and the UAA do their dancing... xnodx

[BisonFan02]

Keeping my fingers crossed that the Bison can win the Summit...grab that 15 seed..."ugly" up a game enough against a #2 and scare them. xthumbsupx

[TheRevSFA]

I can't believe we won. Win another for Scottie.

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I saw an older gentleman wearing a my oh my shirt. I'll forgive that he tucked it in. It was a great thing to see after that comeback

[dewey]

Keeping my fingers crossed that the Bison can win the Summit...grab that 15 seed..."ugly" up a game enough against a #2 and scare them. xthumbsupx

Hell yeah! Go Bison beat the Jackrabbits (assuming they win tonight).

Dewey

[Laker]

Cooper from Oakland (the player who only shoots threes) hit his first shot tonight against Wright State. Otherwise not a big deal, but his dad did die of brain cancer two days ago so that has to be really tough.

[IBleedYellow]

I saw an older gentleman wearing a my oh my shirt. I'll forgive that he tucked it in. It was a great thing to see after that comeback
You don't know how much that phrase is being thrown around this tournament from fans. We miss our Scottie Miller.

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[BisonFan02]

Well....the Denver/SDSU game was a cluster****. xlolx

[Laker]

Foul called on Denver with what, 2 seconds to go. SDSU hits one FT to go up one- then fouls Denver- who misses the one and one with a second to go.

Can't remember listening to two games where it looked like the team that won would get blown out only to come back to win.

[JayJ79]

I saw an older gentleman wearing a my oh my shirt. I'll forgive that he tucked it in. It was a great thing to see after that comeback

are shirts not supposed to be tucked in?

[Evolution Prime]

After the Jacks game, I may have to see a cardiologist tomorrow.

[Twentysix]

After the Jacks game, I may have to see a cardiologist tomorrow.

Whats your halftime score prediction for NDSU SDSU tommorrow? 10-6? >.>

[clenz]

Wait, I turned the SDSU/Denver game off to watch The Office...

I actually have to check the score?

WTF?

[clenz]

Holy **** did I miss a game.

Largest lead:
DEN by 13 2nd-11:24
SDSU by 12 1st-03:16.

That means in roughly 14 minutes of game action there was a 25 point swing to Denver, which then swung 14 points back to SDSU in the final 11:24

DA FUQ?

[TheRevSFA]

are shirts not supposed to be tucked in?

T-Shirts? I say no unless you're trying to make a deliberate style statement

[Thumper 76]

Holy **** did I miss a game.

Largest lead:
DEN by 13 2nd-11:24
SDSU by 12 1st-03:16.

That means in roughly 14 minutes of game action there was a 25 point swing to Denver, which then swung 14 points back to SDSU in the final 11:24

DA FUQ?

SDSU didn't hit a field goal for something like 12 minutes. As a Jacks fan, it was more than mildly upsetting. Game was nuts. Can't believe we won. Tyler Merriam did a Scott Miller homage as well.


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[Thumper 76]

are shirts not supposed to be tucked in?

Only if you have socks and sandals on


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[Thumper 76]

Whats your halftime score prediction for NDSU SDSU tommorrow? 10-6? >.>

No. It's going to be 15-2, and the team that's got 2 will come back to win in the last seven minutes.


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[clenz]

T-Shirts? I say no unless you're trying to make a deliberate style statement
There are select times a t-shirt tucked in works....very very very select times.

A polo should almost always be tucked in, unless it's one of styles that's cut to an untucked look length.

[TheRevSFA]

There are select times a t-shirt tucked in works....very very very select times.

A polo should almost always be tucked in, unless it's one of styles that's cut to an untucked look length.

If your shirt doesn't have an even bottom hem, or has tails, it should be tucked in.

If the hem is even all around then it's viable to not tuck in your shirt

[BisonFan02]

Tonight's NDSU/SDSU game on ESPN2 will be interesting...for NDSU to win, it will set basketball back some 20 years. xlolx Right SDSU fans? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opmwfRqdGsg

[clenz]

Hate to admit it, but for UNI's seeding sake I want to see a Bison win.

SDSU's RPI of 36 doesn't help UNI. The rest of SDSU's resume isn't all that impressive, but don't want to chance it.

[IBleedYellow]

Hate to admit it, but for UNI's seeding sake I want to see a Bison win.

SDSU's RPI of 36 doesn't help UNI. The rest of SDSU's resume isn't all that impressive, but don't want to chance it.
Oh you want the Bison to benefit you?

Sounds like we're losing tonight boys.

xlolx

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[BisonFan02]

Oh you want the Bison to benefit you?

Sounds like we're losing tonight boys.

xlolx

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The Bison are playing with house money at this point.....SDSU has to win eventually right?

[BisonFan02]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwjV9sNJl7o

[clenz]

The Bison are playing with house money at this point.....SDSU has to win eventually right?
You'd think Wichita State would win the MVC tournament more as well.
1985
1987
2014

That's it.

[BisonFan02]

You'd think Wichita State would win the MVC tournament more as well.
1985
1987
2014

That's it.

I'm not even just talking basketball......these poor guys are due. :D

[Thumper 76]

Tonight's NDSU/SDSU game on ESPN2 will be interesting...for NDSU to win, it will set basketball back some 20 years. xlolx Right SDSU fans? :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opmwfRqdGsg

Would have been worse had it been Denver and NDSU :D


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[IBleedYellow]

The Bison are playing with house money at this point.....SDSU has to win eventually right?

All good things must come to an end someday.

[jacksfan29]

Last night watching SDSU fall apart my first though was, holy crap; the SLC will have to put DU v NDSU in front of national TV. First to break 30 point wins.


Would have been worse had it been Denver and NDSU :D


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[BisonFan02]

Last night watching SDSU fall apart my first though was, holy crap; the SLC will have to put DU v NDSU in front of national TV. First to break 30 point wins.

Meh.......are you guys gonna score 30 tonight? :D

[clenz]

Last night watching SDSU fall apart my first though was, holy crap; the SLC will have to put DU v NDSU in front of national TV. First to break 30 point wins.
2011 the MVC saw Indiana State/Missouri State....on CBS...prime slot afternoon sports.

Thankfully the title games usually have national name recognition

16: UNI over Evansville
15: UNI over Illinois State - UNI top 25
14: Wichita State over Indiana State
13: Creighton over Wichita State - CU top 25
12: Creighton over Illinois State (OT)
11: Indiana State over Missouri State....still shutter at the sight of ScottTrade that empty on national TV
10: UNI over Wichita State - UNI top 25
09: UNI over Illinois State (OT) - UNI just outside top 25
08: Drake over Illinois State....Drake is ISUb mid 00s bad at football bad at basketball, but were top 25 that year
07: Creighton over SIU - both top 25
06: SIU over Bradley - SIU top 25 and both made S16
05: Creighton over Missouri State
04: UNI over Missouri State (2OT)
03: Creighton over Southern Illinois - I believe both were top 25 or close
02: Creighton over Southern Illinois - I believe both were top 25 or close

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Pumped for these 9 pm games! The Border War on ESPN2 and Gonzaga vs St. Mary's on ESPN....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Sioux Falls has an absurdly nice arena! I still can't get over how much of an upgrade it is over the old place...

Having to defend NDSU's weave would drive me crazy....

[IBleedYellow]

Sioux Falls has an absurdly nice arena! I still can't get over how much of an upgrade it is over the old place...

Having to defend NDSU's weave would drive me crazy....

It drives us crazy watching it....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Great first half in SF! SDSU has the advantage in the paint while the Bison perimeter play seems stronger.

SDSU 30 NDSU 29 half

[BisonFan02]

Sioux Falls has an absurdly nice arena! I still can't get over how much of an upgrade it is over the old place...

Having to defend NDSU's weave would drive me crazy....

Just whistle "Sweet Georgia Brown" and it will be better. :D

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Great first half in SF! SDSU has the advantage in the paint while the Bison perimeter play seems stronger.

SDSU 30 NDSU 29 half

Got em right where we want them....Kory Brown rested and out of foul trouble....low scoring game.

[dewey]

Monster 3 by You, Me and Dupree before halftime. I will be sauced by the end.

Go Bison!

Dewey

[Thumper 76]

Sioux Falls has an absurdly nice arena! I still can't get over how much of an upgrade it is over the old place...

Having to defend NDSU's weave would drive me crazy....

Yes, to all of it


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[BisonFan02]

Just whistle "Sweet Georgia Brown" and it will be better. :D

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Got em right where we want them....Kory Brown rested and out of foul trouble....low scoring game.

I say that and Kory Brown picks up foul #3. Gotta keep it close and get rolling.

[Thumper 76]

Heck of a game


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SDSU is really strong in the paint. NSDU's guards seem a little hesitant this half...

[BisonFan02]

SDSU is really strong in the paint. NSDU's guards seem a little hesitant this half...

Its starting to look more like the Bison team I've watched all year....they miss a guy like Alexander that can take a game over. Dupree did it last night, but NDSU needs someone to put the team on their back. They haven't had it all year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow!! huge technical when NDSU had some momentum!

[BisonFan02]

Wow......that was pretty ****ing weak.

[BisonFan02]

Wow!! huge technical when NDSU had some momentum!

That technical is the ballgame right now....nice ****ing call.

[BisonFan02]

Holy ****......

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That technical is the ballgame right now....nice ****ing call.

That was a horrific technical given the circumstances. Right up there with the technical against the UK player for showing excitement. All the NDSU player did was keep his hands on the SDSU player. He didn't intentionally shove him imo...

[BisonFan02]

Well....I'm speechless. Good night everyone! xlolx

[BisonFan02]

That was a horrific technical given the circumstances. Right up there on the technical against the UK player for showing excitement. All the NDSU player did was keep his hands on the SDSU player. He didn't intentionally shove him imo...

and then they swallow their whistles when Dupree takes it to the basket. The technical just killed any momentum NDSU had and gift wrapped it to the Jackrabbits. Oh well...NDSU was playing with house money, but I'm still disappointed.

[Thumper 76]

YESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Congrats SDSU! That was a pretty good game. Not the most pleasant on the eyes but very spirited. The Jackrabbits seem like the perfect 14 seed to give a 3 seed like Maryland or Baylor fits....

That technical really was BS...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Of all the smaller schools to win, Iona, SDSU and Green Bay seem the most equipped to pull a rather large upset in the first round. Yale could be trouble too given the Ivies history of being tough outs....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Gonzaga punches their ticket for 18th straight year!

[clenz]

God dammit, Bison.

Now I'm glad I wanted you to lose even though I wanted you to win.

[TheRevSFA]

Of all the smaller schools to win, Iona, SDSU and Green Bay seem the most equipped to pull a rather large upset in the first round. Yale could be trouble too given the Ivies history of being tough outs....

SFA is hot now but also played in the SLC. Lunardi keeps putting us at the 13 vs Duke.

Of of course we have to win the conference tourney first and given how the small school finals have been playing out...

[Mayville Bison]

Congrats to the bunnies! Pretty good game to watch even though it didn't end as I would have hoped.

Really not sure why NDSU didn't double Daum every time he got the ball. Dex did an ok job, but he was gassed and couldn't keep it going throughout.

Denver showed the blueprint Monday night but fell just short. It seemed like every time Daum touched the ball, he would have 2 or 3 guys on him. I get if he gets it almost on the endline to let it be one on one, but if he's anywhere near the bucket, especially in the paint, you gotta get it out of his hands. He's going to be special and I hate that he ended up in Blue!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross @ Lehigh for the PL Championship tips off in about 45 minutes on CBS Sports Network.

[TheRevSFA]

SLU Knocks out UNO in the "teams gonna lose to HBU tomorrow" game

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross beats Lehigh 59-56 for the PL auto bid. Pretty ugly game with neither team looking very good. HC is destined for Dayton with a 14-19 overall record.

[bonarae]

Oh no. Holy Cross?! Maybe they'll become the next Liberty from a few years ago... xchinscratchx

That's why I'm not a fan of conference tournaments, to say the least. I'm an Ivy and UAA fan, for a reason.

[TheRevSFA]

And we talk about FBS and sub .500 teams getting bowl bids.....

[TheRevSFA]

Nicholls state beats mcneese in double OT. They draw Sam tomorrow

[bonarae]

And we talk about FBS and sub .500 teams getting bowl bids.....

Hmm... too many bowls but too few talented enough teams that can muster even a .500 record. Cut down the number of FBS bowls to be supported first...

And then fix the autobid system in the NCAA basketball tournament by awarding the autobids to the regular season champions. This can render the NIT irrelevant. xtwocentsx

[eiu1999]

SIU has ended it's season stating it will not participate in the CIT or CBI due to injuries and state budget issues.

http://www.siusalukis.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030916aaa.html

[clenz]

Injuries are a sham reason.

It's the state budget.

[TheRevSFA]

What a finish between Nicholls and Sam

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/1530520/687036

[Nova09]

Injuries are a sham reason.

It's the state budget.

Even recognizing "state budget issues" is disingenuous as it implies a state budget exists

[clenz]

Even recognizing "state budget issues" is disingenuous as it implies a state budget exists
That is true.

[BisonFan02]

Injuries are a sham reason.

It's the state budget.

Wasn't playing in these tournaments one of your requirements for MVC membership? :D

[Thumper 76]

Wasn't playing in these tournaments one of your requirements for MVC membership? :D

Maybe being able to fund your university properly isn't a requirement of MVC membership? xlolx


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[BisonFan02]

Maybe being able to fund your university properly isn't a requirement of MVC membership? xlolx


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Oops. :D xrotatehx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple beat UCF 79-62 in the AAC Quarterfinals today. We play UConn tomorrow at 3 pm on ESPN2. The Huskies got an incredible 104-97 4 OT win over Cincinnati. They forced a 4th OT by hitting 60 footer...

[TheRevSFA]

SFA vs the beach Aggies tomorrow for the chipper

[dgtw]

SIU has ended it's season stating it will not participate in the CIT or CBI due to injuries and state budget issues.

http://www.siusalukis.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/030916aaa.html

Those are crap tournaments anyway.


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[bonarae]

Those are crap tournaments anyway.

Yes, but they offer mid-majors who were busted in their conference tournaments a "second chance".

[Ivytalk]

xthumbsupxCongrats to the Stony Brook Seawolves on their first trip to the NCAA tournament! Warney was a beast today!

[Laker]

xthumbsupxCongrats to the Stony Brook Seawolves on their first trip to the NCAA tournament! Warney was a beast today!

I like to see teams that have never gone before make it. So many of those teams come close and fall short, it has to be so frustrating. Good for Stony Brook- I think they are the first one to break through this year- maybe the only one that will.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple got stomped by UConn 77-62 in the American Semifinals. Now we wait, like last year, to see if we're on the right side of the bubble or not. My guess is unlike last year we sneak in. I see us playing Monmouth in Dayton. If we do get left out again I will not be disappointed. We simply fail time after time under Dunphy to rise up...

UConn will play Memphis for the auto bid tomorrow....

[TheRevSFA]

SFA putting on a clinic. Up 48-29 at half

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Congrats to SFA! I'm interested to see how you fair in the tournament. You dominated the SLC but the OOC results earlier in the year were at best, "sketchy". Even so, I have to think this is a potential Sweet 16 team. #10 seed for SFA?

[TheRevSFA]

Congrats to SFA! I'm interested to see how you fair in the tournament. You dominated the SLC but the OOC results earlier in the year were at best, "sketchy". Even so, I have to think this is a potential Sweet 16 team. #10 seed for SFA?

sfa will get a 13. Maybe a 12

[Catatonic]

sfa will get a 13. Maybe a 12

SFA's senior men have had a phenomenal 3 year run. Wish you all the best in the NCAA.

[Thumper 76]

sfa will get a 13. Maybe a 12

Here's to a couple of 12/13 upsets this year!


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[bonarae]

So far... FCS in the Big Dance:

Austin Peay - non-Dayton 16 South
South Dakota State - 12 South
Villanova - 2 South
Holy Cross - Dayton 16 West (Southern U)
Southern U - Dayton 16 West (Holy Cross)
Yale - 12 West
Northern Iowa - 11 West

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[TheRevSFA]

SFA a 14 is a joke. Sorry Yale and Stony Brook

but ****ing Tulsa?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[bonarae]

East and Midwest Regionals:

Chattanooga - 12 East
Stony Brook - 13 East
SFA - 14 East
Weber State - 15 East
Hampton - non-Dayton 16 Midwest
Butler - 9 Midwest
Dayton - 7 Midwest

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[bonarae]

but ****ing Tulsa?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Do you want to replace it with Monmouth? xchinscratchx

One of the "first four out" is Monmouth? (Apologies, I live outside of the US, so no access to the show)

[BluBengal07]

https://twitter.com/ChrisHudgison/status/709078348668928002?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Jackson State will play Sam Houston State Monday night for the College Insider Tournament.

[bulldog10jw]

Yale vs. Baylor, Providence, Thurs.

[clenz]

SFA a 14 is a joke. Sorry Yale and Stony Brook

but ****ing Tulsa?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Sorry, but your resume was WEAK. I can understand the 14. Had you lost one conference game you'd have been a 15

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple gets in as a 10 seed and will play Iowa in Brooklyn! Win and we get a second shot at Villanova! I'm also glad to see Syracuse get in!

Shocked that Tulsa got in. They absolutely did not deserve a bid. I feel really bad for Monmouth! I thought they absolutely deserved the bid. UK, Indiana and Seton Hall were extremely undervalued too.

UNI-Texas is an awesome first round match-up!!

[clenz]

Tulsa and Syracuse being in is a travesty.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Tulsa and Syracuse being in is a travesty.

Syracuse had wins over Texas A&M and UConn on neutral courts, won at Duke, beat Notre Dame which are 4 really good wins. The 'Cuse played a solid OOC schedule overall. They also had the JB suspension. I'm obviously a little biased but they did have some good wins and had to deal with the loss of their head coach. Given all that they had to be a tough team to evaluate.

I have zero clue how Tulsa got in...

[bonarae]

Replace Tulsa with Monmouth, and we fans should've been happier. xlolx

[Laker]

Vandy?

[bonarae]

Vandy?

Almost. But Tulsa is more of a shocker to all of us.

Meanwhile...

The NIT field is in:
#1 Monmouth
#1 Valpo
#5 Davidson
#6 Princeton (OMG!)
#8 Bucknell
#8 Texas Southern
#8 Wagner

[bonarae]

FCS in the CBI field:
Morehead State
Duquesne
Albany
HBU
Montana
EWU
WCU

CIT:
Jackson State
SHSU
SCSU
Mercer
Coastal Carolina
Furman
Tennessee State
Savannah State
Fordham
Norfolk State
Columbia
New Hampshire
UT Martin
North Dakota

[clenz]

Syracuse had wins over Texas A&M and UConn on neutral courts, won at Duke, beat Notre Dame which are 4 really good wins. The 'Cuse played a solid OOC schedule overall. They also had the JB suspension. I'm obviously a little biased but they did have some good wins and had to deal with the loss of their head coach. Given all that they had to be a tough team to evaluate.

I have zero clue how Tulsa got in...
Don't buy it on Syracuse.

Team A: OOC SOS 38
vs the top 100: 8-3 (RPI/LOCATION/RESULT)


5
H
W


22
N
W


48
H
L


48
A
W


48
N
W


61
H
W


76
N
L


80
A
L


93
H
W


93
A
W


93
N
W



Expected Record vs RPI 1-25: 2-0
Expected Record vs RPI 26-50: 2-1
Expected Record vs RPI 51-100: 4-2
Expected Record vs RPI 101-200: 5-6

Expected Record vs RPI 200+: 8-3




Team B: OOC SOS 114
vs the top 100 8-10



3
A
L


5
H
L


5
A
L


9
A
L


17
N
W


18
A
L


20
A
W


30
H
W


32
H
W


41
N
W


42
H
L


52
A
L


52
H
L


52
N
L


69
H
W


81
H
W


81
A
L


89
H
W




Expected Record vs RPI 1-25: 2-5
Expected Record vs RPI 26-50: 3-1
Expected Record vs RPI 51-100: 3-4
Expected Record vs RPI 101-200: 5-2
Expected Record vs RPI 200+: 6-1





Team A has a higher RPI.
Team A had 4 starters hurt/sick for a month.
Team A has zero chance of an at-large.

Team A is UNI. UNI had a higher RPI than Cuse. It has as many top 100 wins, hell, it would have to lose 7 straight vs the top 100 to have as many loses as Cuse did vs the top 100. Listening to the cheater coach explain how he got in on Mike and Mike this morning and it was "Well, they showed it's about who you beat and not who you played". Doesn't answer how UNI didn't get in without the at-large.

Cheater coach was suspended and they went 4-5 without him? BFD. They start nothing but 4 and 5 star top 100 recruits. Hell, even with cheater coach they were only 15-8. Take the name off of Syracuse and there is zero ****ing chance they get in.

[clenz]

As for how Tulsa got in? Well.

Tulsa AD is good friends with head of selection committee
Tulsa AD hired him at Missouri for his first job

Put 2 and 2 together.

[LeadBolt]

William & Mary with an RPI of 67 is the highest rated team not in either NCAA or NIT, ranked higher than 1/3 of teams selected. If only we had gone 4-11 vs. top teams as Syracuse did...

[clenz]

Now, as for why SFA was a 14 and 1 loss in conference from a 15?

Expected Record vs RPI 1-25: 0-1
Expected Record vs RPI 26-50: 0-0
Expected Record vs RPI 51-100: 3-3
Expected Record vs RPI 101-200: 5-0
Expected Record vs RPI 200+: 15-1
Current OOC Record: 3-5


Here's the schedule



Date
Opponent
ORPI
LOC.
SCORE
RESULT


13-Nov
Baylor
25
A
97-55
L


17-Nov
Northern Iowa
70
A
70-60
L


26-Nov
Western Michigan
202
N
79-71
W


27-Nov
Tulane
226
N
60-59
L


29-Nov
Appalachian St.
258
N
84-94
W


5-Dec
Texas Southern
190
H
66-62
W


22-Dec
Arizona St.
99
A
80-73
L


29-Dec
UAB
88
A
76-66
L


2-Jan
McNeese St.
341
H
86-57
W


4-Jan
Southeastern Louisiana
330
A
69-89
W


12-Jan
Central Arkansas
339
H
85-64
W


16-Jan
Abilene Christian
321
H
97-62
W


18-Jan
New Orleans
343
A
58-82
W


23-Jan
Sam Houston St.
177
H
76-64
W


25-Jan
Lamar
337
H
86-52
W


30-Jan
Texas A&M Corpus Chris
84
A
61-66
W


6-Feb
Houston Baptist
224
A
66-72
W


8-Feb
Northwestern St.
344
H
83-72
W


13-Feb
Texas A&M Corpus Chris
84
H
70-58
W


15-Feb
Incarnate Word
163
H
84-46
W


20-Feb
Nicholls St.
312
A
53-88
W


22-Feb
Lamar
337
A
58-79
W


27-Feb
Houston Baptist
224
H
82-54
W


29-Feb
Incarnate Word
163
A
58-84
W


3-Mar
Northwestern St.
344
A
55-95
W


5-Mar
Sam Houston St.
177
A
64-85
W


11-Mar
Houston Baptist
224
N
104-68
W


12-Mar
Texas A&M Corpus Chris
84
N
82-60
W





OR THE WAY EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF SFA'S CAMPUS SAW IT
Blown the **** out by the only top 50 team played
Double digit loss to the only other respectable names on the schedule (UNI, UAB and Airzona State)
TAMUCC finding a way to cheat the RPI system despite being 0-6 vs the RPI top 100 and a OOC SOS of 178
The next highest RPI was 163.
Played more games over 300 than below 220

[clenz]

William & Mary with an RPI of 67 is the highest rated team not in either NCAA or NIT, ranked higher than 1/3 of teams selected. If only we had gone 4-11 vs. top teams as Syracuse did...
Evansville also out of the NIT

Finished second in the MVC
Made MVC title game
Top 100 RPI
24-8 record
NCAA current leaders in both scoring and rebounds

What a sham

[TheRevSFA]

Yep. Losing to Tulane, UAB and UNI hurts. Also the fact that no one will play us in Nac hurts for OOC scheduling. The last time we lost at home was against UNI. We offered money to schools to come in and they wouldn't take it.

As for conference, you gotta play what you're given. We aren't in the middle of basketball only schools like UNI being in the MVC and geographically we are an outlier for most conferences.

We may beat WVU and we may not. UNI may beat Texas and they may not. All that matters is what happens this week.

But I do love the red ass you get about SFA clenzy. I'll send you a SFA shirt.

[bonarae]

As for how Tulsa got in? Well.

Tulsa AD is good friends with head of selection committee
Tulsa AD hired him at Missouri for his first job

Put 2 and 2 together.

This is what we call PERSONAL BIAS! xsmhx

[clenz]

Yep. Losing to Tulane, UAB and UNI hurts. Also the fact that no one will play us in Nac hurts for OOC scheduling. The last time we lost at home was against UNI. We offered money to schools to come in and they wouldn't take it.

As for conference, you gotta play what you're given. We aren't in the middle of basketball only schools like UNI being in the MVC and geographically we are an outlier for most conferences.

We may beat WVU and we may not. UNI may beat Texas and they may not. All that matters is what happens this week.

But I do love the red ass you get about SFA clenzy. I'll send you a SFA shirt.
Listen, I don't disagree with the basic principle that SFA is good enough for a 12, or that they'd win a game.

I agree you can only who will play you and can't do anything about your conference - see Bradley, Drake, SIU, MSU, ISUb in the MVC.

You think teams WANT to come to the McLeod Center? UNI has lost 1 game in November at home since the placed opened in 2006...1...and that was this year's opener vs Colorado State. UNI has won well over 80% of it's home games since the place opened. You think teams want to play UNI in general? Look at what happened to our series vs Iowa and Iowa State when they started getting beat.

The only reason we got UNC was Marcus Page being HS teammates with one of our players, getting to play a game in his home state and UNC having played at Iowa and ISU the previous two years.

The MTE is HUGE when it comes to having chances for name wins. You're MTE this year? WMU, Tulane and App State.
Played 4 non D-1 schools in the OOC. I can understand 1, as that's pretty common. You played 4 non-D1s to 5 D1s outside of your MTE in your OOC and one of those 5 D1s was a "return" from last year as part of the 24 hours of hoops. UNI agreed to play in Texas at 7AM for that game if a game happened here this year.
I didn't even know that MTE existed.

I get scheduling issues - you don't think UNI runs into it? 7 NCAA's in 13 years. Consistently being Iowa State (8-2 in the last 10 over the last decade), Iowa (6-4 over last ten), beaten Kansas, taken Louisville to the final minute twice(both times getting jobbed from the refs), beating B10, B12, P12, Big East schools on a regular basis.

If all you're worried about is a home win streak vs non-D1s and sub 200 RPI conference teams, then by all means keep that kind of schedule. It leaves zero room for any kind of room to talk come selection Sunday.

[bonarae]

OK, did W&M and Evansville's coaches back out of the CBI? I'm not sure why they still do this... xsmhx

[clenz]

OK, did W&M and Evansville's coaches back out of the CBI? I'm not sure why they still do this... xsmhx
Evansville did for sure.

bottom half MVC teams won both tournaments last year, going away in both.

We saw every single MVC team that was invited to those tournaments turn them down this year - Illinois State, Evansville, Southern Illinois and Indiana State.

With the new Vegas 16 tournament - also turned down by Illinois State and Evansville - I'd be shocked if the CBI and CIT held on. I think the new Vegas format is going to go over real well and we'll be down to the NCAA, NIT and V16

The CBI and CIT are money losers - paying 35K plus to host a 4th tier tournament is crazy.
I know UNI would have turned down both CBI and CIT but would have done NIT or V16

[bonarae]

Hmm... not too many details of Vegas 16 are in the media yet. Far too many teams are backing out at a record-breaking pace... xsmhx

Looks like the 2016 men's basketball postseason is truly a dud. xsmhx

[clenz]

Hmm... not too many details of Vegas 16 are in the media yet. Far too many teams are backing out at a record-breaking pace... xsmhx

Looks like the 2016 men's basketball postseason is truly a dud. xsmhx
Plenty is known about it

Games will be played at the Mandalay Bay Events Center. First round games will be played March 26 and March 27, the quarterfinals on March 28, with the semifinals March 29 and the championship March 30. Every single game will be on CBSSports

The tournament is paying all expenses, outside of food. Initially teams would have to pay for travel/hotel but the tournament picked those costs up recently. Even if they don't they one week tournament costs less than hosting 2 CBI/CIT games

They needs a few big names to be in it to give it credibility from the start, thought.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Jack Montague disputes sexual assault claims that led to his expulsion.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14969372/jack-montague-former-yale-bulldogs-team-captain-disputes-sexual-assault-claims-led-expulsion

Have we seen the last of him now? xchinscratchx

Let's move on to the First Four instead, despite it being biased. xpeacex

[TheRevSFA]

Listen, I don't disagree with the basic principle that SFA is good enough for a 12, or that they'd win a game.

I agree you can only who will play you and can't do anything about your conference - see Bradley, Drake, SIU, MSU, ISUb in the MVC.

You think teams WANT to come to the McLeod Center? UNI has lost 1 game in November at home since the placed opened in 2006...1...and that was this year's opener vs Colorado State. UNI has won well over 80% of it's home games since the place opened. You think teams want to play UNI in general? Look at what happened to our series vs Iowa and Iowa State when they started getting beat.

The only reason we got UNC was Marcus Page being HS teammates with one of our players, getting to play a game in his home state and UNC having played at Iowa and ISU the previous two years.

The MTE is HUGE when it comes to having chances for name wins. You're MTE this year? WMU, Tulane and App State.
Played 4 non D-1 schools in the OOC. I can understand 1, as that's pretty common. You played 4 non-D1s to 5 D1s outside of your MTE in your OOC and one of those 5 D1s was a "return" from last year as part of the 24 hours of hoops. UNI agreed to play in Texas at 7AM for that game if a game happened here this year.
I didn't even know that MTE existed.

I get scheduling issues - you don't think UNI runs into it? 7 NCAA's in 13 years. Consistently being Iowa State (8-2 in the last 10 over the last decade), Iowa (6-4 over last ten), beaten Kansas, taken Louisville to the final minute twice(both times getting jobbed from the refs), beating B10, B12, P12, Big East schools on a regular basis.

If all you're worried about is a home win streak vs non-D1s and sub 200 RPI conference teams, then by all means keep that kind of schedule. It leaves zero room for any kind of room to talk come selection Sunday.

no one is happy in Nac about our schedule. No one.

we would prefer only d1s but no one will come to Nac. We can't be road dogs. It doesn't help the players by any means.

[clenz]

no one is happy in Nac about our schedule. No one.

we would prefer only d1s but no one will come to Nac. We can't be road dogs. It doesn't help the players by any means.
It doesn't help your team get a better seed when the NCAA only looks at 28 of your 32 games and 17 of them are 200+ RPI games.

Sometimes you need to be willing to go on the road. If you're good enough to win you shouldn't be scared of a few road games or a better MTE. You're going to win that league anyway and it isn't going to get you a better seed.

May as well attempt a resume with better teams on it through neutral/road games.

UNI didn't play a single home game between 11/30 and 12/30 when conference play started and only one home game between 11/22 through 12/30
ROAD
HOME
NEUTRAL

11/28 @ UND
11/30 vs UNT
12/5 @ Richmond
12/8 @ George Mason
12/12 @ New Mexico
12/19 @ Iowa State (technically neutral but over 2 hours from UNI and 20 min from ISU)
12/22 @ Hawaii
12/23 Washington St in Hawaii
12/25 BYU in Hawaii
12/30 vs Bradley
1/2 @ Southern Illinois
1/6 @ Missouri State
1/9 v Drake
1/13 @ Indiana State


Not only that during that stretch had 4 starters injured/sick. It sucks, but as a mid-major you have no room for error so you need to create room for error when it comes to seeding.

No one at UNI is happy about a month without a home game, but it's do that and get an 11 in a year like this or crank the schedule way down at get a 15

[TheRevSFA]

It doesn't help your team get a better seed when the NCAA only looks at 28 of your 32 games and 17 of them are 200+ RPI games.

Sometimes you need to be willing to go on the road. If you're good enough to win you shouldn't be scared of a few road games or a better MTE. You're going to win that league anyway and it isn't going to get you a better seed.

May as well attempt a resume with better teams on it through neutral/road games.

UNI didn't play a single home game between 11/30 and 12/30 when conference play started and only one home game between 11/22 through 12/30
ROAD
HOME
NEUTRAL

11/28 @ UND
11/30 vs UNT
12/5 @ Richmond
12/8 @ George Mason
12/12 @ New Mexico
12/19 @ Iowa State (technically neutral but over 2 hours from UNI and 20 min from ISU)
12/22 @ Hawaii
12/23 Washington St in Hawaii
12/25 BYU in Hawaii
12/30 vs Bradley
1/2 @ Southern Illinois
1/6 @ Missouri State
1/9 v Drake
1/13 @ Indiana State


Not only that during that stretch had 4 starters injured/sick. It sucks, but as a mid-major you have no room for error so you need to create room for error when it comes to seeding.

No one at UNI is happy about a month without a home game, but it's do that and get an 11 in a year like this or crank the schedule way down at get a 15

True. Now let's see if wvu looks past us. I doubt it as Huggins is a good coach

[clenz]

The same situation kept Evansville out of the NIT. E'ville is notoriously bad a scheduling. They do SWAC/OVC games time after time and it hurts them come MVC time. They aren't ready for the caliber of play and RPI is killed come post season time.

This year Evansville's OOC was



11-15
Southeast Missouri St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Southeast%20Missouri%20St..html) (342.0)
OVC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/OVC.html)
H
80-65
W
100%
0.0


11-21
Belmont (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Belmont.html) (98.0)
OVC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/OVC.html)
H
93-88
W
100%
0.0


11-26
Providence (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Providence.html) (39.0)
BE (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/BE.html)
N
74-64
L
0%
0.0


11-27
Santa Clara (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Santa%20Clara.html) (251.0)
WCC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/WCC.html)
N
57-69
W
100%
0.0


11-29
UC Irvine (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/UC%20Irvine.html) (75.0)
BW (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/BW.html)
N
75-56
W
100%
0.0


12-1
Alabama St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Alabama%20St..html) (265.0)
SWAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SWAC.html)
H
88-56
W
100%
0.0


12-5
Murray St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Murray%20St..html) (169.0)
OVC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/OVC.html)
A
81-85
W
100%
0.0


12-8
Arkansas (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Arkansas.html) (132.0)
SEC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SEC.html)
A
89-76
L
0%
0.0


12-12
Mississippi Valley St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Mississippi%20Valley%20St..html) (331.0)
SWAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SWAC.html)
H
95-60
W
100%
0.0


12-17
Norfolk St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Norfolk%20St..html) (225.0)
MEAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/MEAC.html)
H
84-70
W
100%
0.0


12-20
Fresno St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Fresno%20St..html) (66.0)
MWC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/MWC.html)
A
77-85
W
100%
0.0


12-22
Alabama A&M (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Alabama%20A&M.html) (332.0)
SWAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SWAC.html)
H
91-70
W
100%
0.0



Had SFA not won the regular season title, I'm not sure they'd have gotten NIT

[TheRevSFA]

The same situation kept Evansville out of the NIT. E'ville is notoriously bad a scheduling. They do SWAC/OVC games time after time and it hurts them come MVC time. They aren't ready for the caliber of play and RPI is killed come post season time.

This year Evansville's OOC was



11-15
Southeast Missouri St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Southeast%20Missouri%20St..html) (342.0)
OVC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/OVC.html)
H
80-65
W
100%
0.0


11-21
Belmont (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Belmont.html) (98.0)
OVC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/OVC.html)
H
93-88
W
100%
0.0


11-26
Providence (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Providence.html) (39.0)
BE (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/BE.html)
N
74-64
L
0%
0.0


11-27
Santa Clara (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Santa%20Clara.html) (251.0)
WCC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/WCC.html)
N
57-69
W
100%
0.0


11-29
UC Irvine (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/UC%20Irvine.html) (75.0)
BW (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/BW.html)
N
75-56
W
100%
0.0


12-1
Alabama St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Alabama%20St..html) (265.0)
SWAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SWAC.html)
H
88-56
W
100%
0.0


12-5
Murray St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Murray%20St..html) (169.0)
OVC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/OVC.html)
A
81-85
W
100%
0.0


12-8
Arkansas (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Arkansas.html) (132.0)
SEC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SEC.html)
A
89-76
L
0%
0.0


12-12
Mississippi Valley St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Mississippi%20Valley%20St..html) (331.0)
SWAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SWAC.html)
H
95-60
W
100%
0.0


12-17
Norfolk St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Norfolk%20St..html) (225.0)
MEAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/MEAC.html)
H
84-70
W
100%
0.0


12-20
Fresno St. (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Fresno%20St..html) (66.0)
MWC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/MWC.html)
A
77-85
W
100%
0.0


12-22
Alabama A&M (http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Alabama%20A&M.html) (332.0)
SWAC (http://www.rpiforecast.com/confs/SWAC.html)
H
91-70
W
100%
0.0



Had SFA not won the regular season title, I'm not sure they'd have gotten NIT

Was evansville the regular season champion in the MVC? Southland's regular season champion gets an autobid if they do not win the tourney

[bulldog10jw]

Meanwhile...

Jack Montague disputes sexual assault claims that led to his expulsion.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14969372/jack-montague-former-yale-bulldogs-team-captain-disputes-sexual-assault-claims-led-expulsion

Have we seen the last of him now? xchinscratchx

Let's move on to the First Four instead, despite it being biased. xpeacex

http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2016/03/14/montague-to-file-lawsuit-against-the-university/

Jack Montague, former captain of the Yale men’s basketball team, will sue the University after being expelled last month for sexual misconduct, according to a statement by his attorney Max Stern.

[clenz]

Was evansville the regular season champion in the MVC? Southland's regular season champion gets an autobid if they do not win the tourney
I understand, and no, they finished second.

That's what I'm getting at, though.

2nd place team in the MVC at 25-9 that lost in the conference title game on a last second 18 foot jumper and they don't get an NIT bit because of their schedule.

Had SFA finished with 1 loss in the SLC and it cost them the regular season title game and then lost in the tournament they likely aren't an NIT team either.

[TheRevSFA]

I understand, and no, they finished second.

That's what I'm getting at, though.

2nd place team in the MVC at 25-9 that lost in the conference title game on a last second 18 foot jumper and they don't get an NIT bit because of their schedule.

Had SFA finished with 1 loss in the SLC and it cost them the regular season title game and then lost in the tournament they likely aren't an NIT team either.

SFA would have had to finish with more than one loss but I see your point

[Nova09]

I understand, and no, they finished second.

That's what I'm getting at, though.

2nd place team in the MVC at 25-9 that lost in the conference title game on a last second 18 foot jumper and they don't get an NIT bit because of their schedule.

Had SFA finished with 1 loss in the SLC and it cost them the regular season title game and then lost in the tournament they likely aren't an NIT team either.

Eh, I agree with your point that they should schedule better, but strictly speaking they didn't get NIT bc too many auto bids were given out (unlike NCAA no set number of those) and it is a money making venture, therefore entry is based on revenue generation as opposed to purely deserving of a spot.

[clenz]

Eh, I agree with your point that they should schedule better, but strictly speaking they didn't get NIT bc too many auto bids were given out (unlike NCAA no set number of those) and it is a money making venture, therefore entry is based on revenue generation as opposed to purely deserving of a spot.
Evansville was more than good enough to double the strength of their schedule, still finish with 24-25 wins. That gets their RPI closer to 60 and would have gotten them in.

[clenz]

A must watch from SBNation on UNI...6 minutes well worth it

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/3/14/11221048/chasing-cinderella-northern-iowa-march-madness-ben-jacobson-wes-washpun-matt-bohannon-paul-jesperson

[Laker]

Watched part of the South Carolina State at Grand Canyon CIT tourney game last night. SC State was playing it's fourth game in five days. Add in the travel to Phoenix and I'm surprised that they played as well as they did. I didn't know that Thunder Dan Majerle was coaching the Antelopes.

[JayJ79]

A must watch from SBNation on UNI...6 minutes well worth it

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/3/14/11221048/chasing-cinderella-northern-iowa-march-madness-ben-jacobson-wes-washpun-matt-bohannon-paul-jesperson

Wes' hat cracks me up.

[bulldog10jw]

Four mid-majors with double-digit seeds and Cinderella potential


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/four-mid-majors-with-double-digit-seeds-and-cinderella-potential-181037278.html


(https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/four-mid-majors-with-double-digit-seeds-and-cinderella-potential-181037278.html)

[Nova09]

Anyone around here have thoughts on the committee nova/x flip flop? Quite a few nova fans feel it is proof how not being power 5 fb affects all aspects of athletic dept. not sure I'd go there but the committee did blatantly go out of their way to manipulate bracket specifically to NOT conform to their rules. i know my voice means nothing but politics aside I would encourage nova, x, and the be to bring litigation.

[Twentysix]

Dang, NDSU wins 20 games, makes the conference tournament championship game and doesn't even get invited to the 4th tier basketball tournament? I was hoping for at least one more game against a new OOC opponent.

[Laker]

Dang, NDSU wins 20 games, makes the conference tournament championship game and doesn't even get invited to the 4th tier basketball tournament? I was hoping for at least one more game against a new OOC opponent.

I was surprised when I didn't find their name in one of those tourneys. Top to bottom, some of these picks make no sense.

[Laker]

Anyone around here have thoughts on the committee nova/x flip flop? Quite a few nova fans feel it is proof how not being power 5 fb affects all aspects of athletic dept. not sure I'd go there but the committee did blatantly go out of their way to manipulate bracket specifically to NOT conform to their rules. i know my voice means nothing but politics aside I would encourage nova, x, and the be to bring litigation.

I rarely agree with Coach Squid of Kentucky, but he hit it on the head when he said that one year they pick one criteria, the next year it is another criteria and a third year is it yet another one. No consistency at all. It was as if they had made their decisions before the last day.

[Twentysix]

I was surprised when I didn't find their name in one of those tourneys. Top to bottom, some of these picks make no sense.

Upon seeing a news story in the forum it appears NDSU turned down the lower tournaments. Something about how NDSU is only interested in the NCAA or NIT.

Bad decision from my point of view, but whatever.

[bonarae]

Anyone around here have thoughts on the committee nova/x flip flop? Quite a few nova fans feel it is proof how not being power 5 fb affects all aspects of athletic dept. not sure I'd go there but the committee did blatantly go out of their way to manipulate bracket specifically to NOT conform to their rules. i know my voice means nothing but politics aside I would encourage nova, x, and the be to bring litigation.

See Tulsa in the First Four. Committee had personal bias on that one. I think Villanova was also affected by that bias too.

[Laker]

Upon seeing a news story in the forum it appears NDSU turned down the lower tournaments. Something about how NDSU is only interested in the NCAA or NIT.

Bad decision from my point of view, but whatever.

I agree. I know that you probably lose money on the thing, but I had never even seen GCU play before I watched them win last night. They had a lot of people at the game. Good publicity for the school, plus extra practices for the team. If you don't want to play the seniors you could get a start on the next season- although as a senior I would jump at the chance to play another game.

[jacksfan29]

I thought the NDSU decision had more to do with injuries and seniors not wanting to play.

As a side note, I had heard the CBI and CIT had some issues filling out the brackets this year. A lot of teams are saying no. The cost is too high, the exposure isn't really worth it. Once the NCAA and NIT begin no one knows, or cares if you are in a lesser tournament.


Upon seeing a news story in the forum it appears NDSU turned down the lower tournaments. Something about how NDSU is only interested in the NCAA or NIT.

Bad decision from my point of view, but whatever.

[clenz]

The bottom tournaments are tricky. In general P5 conferences want their members to stay away. MWC, MVC, CUSA, AAC, A10 will take bids but not by top half teams. They'll pass. Last year the MVC swept the CIT and CBI but it was by our 5th and 6th place teams. I think you'll see more and more respected programs, or programs trying to get to respected level pass on these things.

They give your players another game and some extra practice time but the reality is redshirted players still can't play and an extra week of practice after 6 months isn't going to do much. Financially it's a pitfall for schools.

It's not extra exposure to anyone but the hardcore fan base. It's not on ESPN. It's not talked about on ESPN. It's not on yahoo. There's no TV for it. The only people that go are hardcore fans or those who see deeply discounted tickets to get in the door and go "why the hell not?"


If I want on my phone is post my proposal for post season play

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

FGCU dominates FDU...

Vanderbilt is up early on Wichita State. The Shockers offense is struggling....

[clenz]

WSU looks like they don't want to be there....knowing Gregg Marshall he threw a pity party, screamed about conspiracy theories, dogged the first four, etc...

He's a miserable human being

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Tied at 30. Defense seems to be winning out so far.....

[clenz]

As for my ideas for the post season

The CIT, CBI and failed V16 need to go. Expand the NIT to 48 or 64

48 would work well, give the top seeds a bye

http://www.printyourbrackets.com/thumbs/48-Team-Single-Elimination.gif

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wichita State wins going away, 70-50. The Shockers dominated the second half for the most part. Vanderbilt tried to make it interesting a couple of times but Wichita State's defense was too good.

Good win for WSU, good win for the MVC. Arizona will be a major step-up in competition....

[bonarae]

As for my ideas for the post season

The CIT, CBI and failed V16 need to go. Expand the NIT to 48 or 64

48 would work well, give the top seeds a bye

http://www.printyourbrackets.com/thumbs/48-Team-Single-Elimination.gif

I agree with you. The NIT needs to be back to expansion mode. xtwocentsx

[clenz]

I agree with you. The NIT needs to be back to expansion mode. xtwocentsx
I think 64 is too far, though there are currently 40 teams between the CBI, CIT and V16(8).

48 is essentially the current NIT with the one of the two added into it and the others go away. That's fine. There aren't 132 post season quality teams.

As far as getting it I'd say rules are

1. Auto-bid to anyone that wins the regular season but doesn't win the AQ or get an AL.
2. Must finish OVER .500 in conference play, including conference tournament.
3. RPI must be top 150 (I'd be okay with making it 125ish)

[Nova09]

I rarely agree with Coach Squid of Kentucky, but he hit it on the head when he said that one year they pick one criteria, the next year it is another criteria and a third year is it yet another one. No consistency at all. It was as if they had made their decisions before the last day.


See Tulsa in the First Four. Committee had personal bias on that one. I think Villanova was also affected by that bias too.

The nova/x problem is fundamentally different from seeding problems/who got in who shouldn't/left out who should have been in. And I'm not saying it's more of a problem or it matters more bc it's my team, just fundamentally different.

Here's why: nova by the rules should be in philly; x by the rules should be in louisville. It has nothing to do with committee judgments, except their judgment that it's more fair for them to not follow the rules.

[jacksfan29]

Interesting opinion piece I read a while back (which I can't find the link to) in regards to the P5 conferences attempting to take over BB along with FB and split D1.

According to the article, there is a thought that the NIT could become the mid-major national tournament while the NCAA would become the national tournament for the P5 FB expanding to P7 for BB (A10 and Big East). The P7 would expand to 16 teams, 112 teams fighting for the 64 (no play in) spots.

The NIT would be played first beginning a week prior to the P7 conference tournaments meaning the NCAA would begin after the NIT championship game.

The article was at least a year ago, I haven't heard anything since but nothing the Big Boys do would surprise me. Football will drive the ship, but I get the feeling Basketball would not be far behind.

(QUOTE=clenz;2329368]I think 64 is too far, though there are currently 40 teams between the CBI, CIT and V16(8).

48 is essentially the current NIT with the one of the two added into it and the others go away. That's fine. There aren't 132 post season quality teams.

As far as getting it I'd say rules are

1. Auto-bid to anyone that wins the regular season but doesn't win the AQ or get an AL.
2. Must finish OVER .500 in conference play, including conference tournament.
3. RPI must be top 150 (I'd be okay with making it 125ish)[/QUOTE]

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy Cross beat Southern 59-55 tonight in one of the play-in games. The Crusaders will be play #1 seed Oregon on Friday....

[clenz]

Who picked Holy Cross in that game?

This guy?

#NeverTrustTheSWAC

[bonarae]

So much for Tulsa. xlolx Michigan jumped on the opportunity late.

Meanwhile...

Results involving FCS teams:

CIT
March 14
Jackson State 81, Sam Houston State 77
Grand Canyon 78, South Carolina State 74

March 15
Coastal Carolina 65, Mercer 57
Furman 58, ULM 57
Ball State 78, Tennessee State 73

March 16
Boston U 69, Fordham 66
Columbia 86, Norfolk State 54
UT Martin 76, Central Michigan 73
UNH 77, Fairfield 62
UT Arlington 75, Savannah State 59
UC Irvine 89, North Dakota 86

CBI
March 15
Morehead State 84, Siena 80

March 16
UNC Greensboro 69, HBU 65
Duquesne 120, Omaha 112
EWU 79, Pepperdine 72
Ohio U 94, Albany 90
Vermont 79, WCU 74
Nevada Reno 79, Montana 75

NIT
March 15
Florida State 84, Davidson 74
Valpo 84, Texas Southern 73

March 16
Wagner 79, St. Bonaventure 75
Monmouth 90, Bucknell 80
Virginia Tech 86, Princeton 81

First Four
March 16
Holy Cross 59, Southern U 55

[TheRevSFA]

I'd like to point out that Sam paid something like $35,000 to host that CIT game and lost in front of 376 people

[JayJ79]

I'd like to point out that Sam paid something like $35,000 to host that CIT game and lost in front of 376 people

if each of those people paid $1000, then they came close to breaking even

[bulldog10jw]

Virginia Tech 86, Princeton 81



Princeton literally threw this game away. With 30 seconds or so left, a turnover on an errant pass taking the ball out under their own basket gave VT a chance to tie and send the game to OT.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yale is playing really well against Baylor. They need to avoid foul trouble down the stretch in order to pull it out...

[clenz]

Oh...hi Yale. Keep going please

Pardon my handwriting.

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I have Duke in the Elite 8 so I'm pulling for Yale. I thought about taking the Bulldogs but the IL seemed a little so-so this year. Baylor is such a flaky team. I have no faith in them when it counts...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yale up 13 with 7 minutes to go!!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Baylor has fought back! Down 6 with 3 minutes left. Yale's offense has gone in the tank....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yale wins 79-75!! Yale-Duke will fun!!

[Laker]

Yale was not wearing their ELAY t-shirts score 79 while Baylor, wearing the Highlighter Yellow unis only score 75.

[bulldog10jw]

Makai Mason: 31 points, 11-of-11 at the free throw line.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile...

Valpo advances into the NIT quarterfinals by beating the 'Noles, 81-69.

FCS in the Big Dance (First Round Day 1):
Butler slays Texas Tech 71-61
Hampton pummeled by Virginia 81-45
Austin Peay stymied by Kansas 105-79
Yale puts down Baylor 79-75
Chattanooga fell short against the Hoosiers 99-74

Games in Progress:
CIT
Jackson State leading Grand Canyon at halftime

NCAA First Round
Stony Brook down big against Kentucky at halftime

[bonarae]

However... Grand Canyon pulled away from Jackson State and Kentucky was the better team in their matchup against Stony Brook.

Games Today (Results will be posted in another post):

First Round Day 2
Dayton / Syracuse
Villanova / UNC Asheville
S.D. State / Maryland
SFA / WVU
Holy Cross / Oregon
Weber State / Xavier
UNI / Texas

[bonarae]

Dayton bows out to Syracuse 70-51
Villanova claws out UNC Asheville 86-56

More games later...

[Laker]

Aloha- Hawaii 77 Cal 66

[Laker]

That is the second travel near halfcourt by the Spartans.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

MTSU up 5 on Sparty with under a minute left!!!

[Thumper 76]

Well that's a big kick to the balls for a lot of our brackets xlolx


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[Laker]

Middle Tennessee wins 90-81, Not many people thought Sparty would be gone already. Virginia is probably happy.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple loses at heartbreaker to Iowa on a buzzer beating put back. Ugh.....xbangx

[bonarae]

Middle Tennessee wins 90-81, Not many people thought Sparty would be gone already. Virginia is probably happy.

It's like Mizzou 2012 all over again. xbawlingx

Meanwhile...

South Dakota State falls short against the Terps.

[Laker]

Jacks have a chance to tie but Maryland steals the ball for a game ending dunk and win by five.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SFA is clowning WVU the last 5 minutes of the game. WVU can't even get a shot off....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SFA wins 70-56. They couldn't have played better the last 5 minutes of the game. Their defense was absurd! Congrats!

[Twentysix]

Wow, way to go SFA.

[Mike296]

SFA wins 70-56. They couldn't have played better the last 5 minutes of the game. Their defense was absurd! Congrats!

Now that's a result I did not see coming! Way to go SFA! This years tournament should be renamed Upset Madness because of all the upsets we've seen to this point. UALR,Hawaii, MTSU, Yale,Wichita State, Gonzaga, VCU, and now SFA? My god what a first round! Hell SDSU almost pulled an upset on Maryland!


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UNI vs Texas about to tip. These night cap games have the potential to be really good.....

[bonarae]

Upset Madness? We'll see. We still have UNI, Michigan and Cincy as the lower seeds yet to play. (Weber State is currently down big to Xavier.)

[Laker]

Did Walkup play with Stephen F. Austin?

I mean the man, not the university. He looked like he should be carrying a rifle.

What a performance!

[TheRevSFA]

xnodx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UNI is taking it to Texas right now!

[Mike296]

UNI and Michgan both leading their games right now. See my point in calling this years tourny Upset Madness. The low seeds definitely came to play this year!


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[bonarae]

Weber State bowed out to Xavier 71-53

Meanwhile...

Texas reclaims the lead. UNI choked. xsmhx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Weber State bowed out to Xavier 71-53

Meanwhile...

Texas reclaims the lead. UNI choked. xsmhx

This game has been all about runs! No one can play with any consistency....

[Laker]

Michigan loses to Neuter Dame. xbawlingx

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Holy **** Clenz!! holy ****!!

[Laker]

What a way for Northern Iowa to win by three with a half court heave at the buzzer to beat Bevo!

[Evolution Prime]

It's no good. He didn't call bank.

[Laker]

Holy **** Clenz!! holy ****!!

Someone get some smelling salts for Clenz!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The night caps lived up to my expecations!! St. Joe's wins in a thriller! UNI on a shot the ages and ND-Michigan was a classic too!! Great first round of the tournament. It's made me forget about Temple's crushing loss just a little bit...

[Laker]

Cincy's dunk at the buzzer to tie the game is waved off. It can't get any closer than that. St. Joe's advances.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

...btw, the state of Iowa stepped in some serious chit today......

[clenz]

Weber State bowed out to Xavier 71-53

Meanwhile...

Texas reclaims the lead. UNI choked. xsmhx

Choked on Pauly J's giant ****ing nuts!

[clenz]

Holy **** Clenz!! holy ****!!

I've got no words other than its after midnight, I've been sick as a dog all damn day, barely made tip off and am now hours from sleep

[clenz]

It's no good. He didn't call bank.

He called bank

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Then he called game

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[bonarae]

First Round in the books now...

Games Today (EDT):
NCAA Second Round
2:40 PM: Yale vs. Duke
7:10 PM: Butler vs. Virginia

NIT
12 PM: Wagner at Creighton

CIT
2 PM: Louisiana at Furman
2 PM: UNH at CCU

[bonarae]

Scores today:

Yale goes home by way of a loss to Duke 71-64
Wagner overcome by Creighton 87-54
Furman's season ends by losing to Louisiana 80-72
Coastal Carolina beats UNH 71-62

[Laker]

Yale just got too far behind, as did Wichita. Close but no cigar.

Indiana-Kentucky games always seem to be classics.

[bonarae]

Butler falls short to Virginia 77-69

Tomorrow:
NCAA Second Round
Iowa vs. Villanova - 12:10 PM
SFA vs. ND - 2:40 PM
UNI vs. Texas A&M - 7:40 PM

CIT
Tennessee-Martin at Ball State - 6:30 PM

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Villanova becomes the first FCS'er in the Sweet 16 with an 87-68 win over Iowa.

Now SFA gets their opportunity against Notre Dame.

[dewey]

Stephen F'Ing Austin! Great game.

Dewey

[BisonFan02]

That stings.....great showing though SFA.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SFA loses a heartbreaker to Notre Dame on a last second tip-in. That was a great game! Both teams went back and forth! It felt like one of those football games when the team that has the ball last was going to win....

[Laker]

That stings.....great showing though SFA.

Another painful reason as to why I hate Notre Dame.

I really wanted to see Walkup play again.

[TheRevSFA]

****! ****! ****!

this one hurts

[bulldog10jw]

****! ****! ****!

this one hurts

Great game by SFA

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

****! ****! ****!

this one hurts

I feel you man. We lost in the same manner on the same basket 48 hours ago. You guys played a helluva game. But so did Notre Dame. I'm not sure where SFA goes from here. If nothing else, these last 3 years have you put you on the map. Now can you become a St. Mary's, VCU, Wichita State, UNI etc?

[clenz]

I didn't get to see the game but that's a rough one. SFA is fun to watch. Really wanted to see them worn that one

The tough part for SFA to really become UNI, WSU, VCU, St Mary's is money

The need to poney up, maybe even take on some sort term debt to kept Underwood. It will pay off in the long run

Not being able to keep him will hurt that program.


The other schools have all created a money/resources rich environment and made the coaches feel so comfortable that leaving isn't an option in their mind.

IDK if SFA can do that. The limit for SFA in the SLC is a 12 in a great year. UNI has 12 losses going into the NCAAs and pulls an 11.

I'd like to see Underwood stay, but SFA has a big hurdle to climb to keep him long term that is more complex than just salary. It's why Jacobson turned down TAMU in 2010

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UNI up 10 on Texas A&M with 5 minutes to go....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UNI's offense has grown completely stagnant the last 5 minutes but they're still up 7 with about 3 minutes left...

[TheRevSFA]

I didn't get to see the game but that's a rough one. SFA is fun to watch. Really wanted to see them worn that one

The tough part for SFA to really become UNI, WSU, VCU, St Mary's is money

The need to poney up, maybe even take on some sort term debt to kept Underwood. It will pay off in the long run

Not being able to keep him will hurt that program.


The other schools have all created a money/resources rich environment and made the coaches feel so comfortable that leaving isn't an option in their mind.

IDK if SFA can do that. The limit for SFA in the SLC is a 12 in a great year. UNI has 12 losses going into the NCAAs and pulls an 11.

I'd like to see Underwood stay, but SFA has a big hurdle to climb to keep him long term that is more complex than just salary. It's why Jacobson turned down TAMU in 2010

We did pony up to keep underwood and he's our highest paid coach and i hope they pay him more

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UNI!!! Don't blow this!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

What a complete collapse by UNI!! wow!! horrific inbounding.....

[FargoBison]

Historic collapse. Wonder if UNI can recover for OT.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Historic collapse. Wonder if UNI can recover for OT.

That was the worst 30 seconds of basketball I might have ever seen. Why they didn't try to long pass more on those inbound plays is beyond me. To give it to Waspun in the corner at the end was brutal.

I'm not sure how UNI can recover from that....

[BisonFan02]

That was the worst 30 seconds of basketball I might have ever seen. Why they didn't try to long pass more on those inbound plays is beyond me. To give it to Waspun in the corner at the end was brutal.

I'm not sure how UNI can recover from that....

I have no idea what I've been watching....never seen something like that before.

[FargoBison]

That was the worst 30 seconds of basketball I might have ever seen. Why they didn't try to long pass more on those inbound plays is beyond me. To give it to Waspun in the corner at the end was brutal.

I'm not sure how UNI can recover from that....

I don't what he was thinking, he should have just held onto the ball and then heaved it down the court. Biggest collapse I've seen as well.

[BisonFan02]

Hell....why did TAMU quit pressing?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

here we go again! UNI up 1 with 20 ticks left but has to inbound the ball!!

[FargoBison]

This game is insane.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Xavier and Wisky also coming down to the wire...

[FargoBison]

UNI could have got a better look, rushed the shot. Double OT.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

What the hell was Jesperson doing?!?! trying to duplicate history?!?! drive the ball my friend!!

[FargoBison]

Wisky with a bomb to tie it up.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wisky with a crazy buzzer beater to beat Xavier!!!

[FargoBison]

Wisky wins it at the buzzer!

[FargoBison]

Jesperson out now

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

UNI is screwed...

[BisonFan02]

What a ****ing collapse.....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

What a ****ing collapse.....

This collapse will live in infamy like the half court buzzer beater.

[clenz]

This ****ing sucks.

Coming into the game I was okay if we lost. Weren't even supposed to be here in mid-Jan. But this....this sucks.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I can't believe UNI lost. Just an epic collapse....

[BisonFan02]

This collapse will live in infamy like the half court buzzer beater.

Unbelievable all the way around.......I don't have a whole lot I can say since my team isn't in the round of 32, but this finish was absolutely ****ing embarrassing for UNI.

[BisonFan02]

This ****ing sucks.

Coming into the game I was okay if we lost. Weren't even supposed to be here in mid-Jan. But this....this sucks.

I actually liked your guy's draw going into the tournament (hence why I had them winning their first two games), but I'm just dumbfounded at this point....

[Kemo]

I didn't think it was possible for anything to make me feel better about the Meltdown in Missoula. Thanks UNI Basketball.

[FargoBison]

I never seen anything like that game. Wow, a historic collapse.