Notre Dame vs USC

[unknown-swac]

USC strikes first

Notre Dame - 0

USC - 7

8 mins left 1st qtr.

[unknown-swac]

USC strikes 2nd too

Notre Dame - 0

USC - 14

5:16 left 1st quarter

[unknown-swac]

Notre Dame - 3

USC - 21

11:37 left in the 2nd

[Peems]

i said it in an earlier thread. Notre Dame is the most overrated team in the nation. it must be really hard playing army, navy and airforce oh and dont forget stanford.

[AppGuy04]

Not so fast

Blocked punt and INT, ND on the way back

21-10, 7 mins left in the 2nd quarter

ND inside USC territory

[unknown-swac]

And again Weiss is stupid and goes for it on 4th down giving USC great field position.

[unknown-swac]

What the hell is John David Booty doing?

[CopperCat]

Whatever it is he needs to do more of it. I HATE THE TROJANS!!!!!!

But Pete Carol is a great coach. Too bad he coaches the biggest dooshbag team in I-A football.

[unknown-swac]

I think USC gets the ball back at the half...I hope they score and go ahead and put the game away. Had it not been for that blocked punt and a breakdown of David Booty this game would be over.

[unknown-swac]

Touchdown USC

Notre Dame - 10

USC - 28

10:03 3rd qtr

[blackfordpu]

TD USC

37-17 USC
(missed extra point)

Game over!

[unknown-swac]

Go Trojans!!!

[unknown-swac]

Notre Dame scores and USC comes right back and runs the onside kick back for a TD LOL

Notre Dame - 24

USC - 44

[Peems]

man i wonder if playing North Carolina got Notre Dame ready for this one?xlolx xlolx xlolx

[GOTOREROS]

USC back in the title game hopefully! My two teams (USC undergrad) and (USD grad) are both two of the most hated teams to many of the posters here. I shouldn't say "hated", maybe most unliked......:D

[griz37]

Wow Charlie Weis sure knows how to win the big game! :rolleyes: Even though it would have helped Michigan I just couldn't bring myself to pull for the Irish. Michigan will have to enjoy the Rose Bowl, hopefully we will get LSU instead of an average Notre Dame.

[GeauxColonels]

Wow Charlie Weis sure knows how to win the big game! :rolleyes: Even though it would have helped Michigan I just couldn't bring myself to pull for the Irish. Michigan will have to enjoy the Rose Bowl, hopefully we will get LSU instead of an average Notre Dame.
I highly doubt it seeing that everyone loves talking about those rematches. And apparently, since Notre Dame went to the Rose Bowl back in 1925, they are a LOCK for this years "Grand-Daddy" according to Brent Mussberger.

[Go...gate]

Ugh. Notre Dame looked like they play too many service academies. No speed at all. :eek:

[ucdtim17]

Ty's focus on his golf game while at ND to the detriment of his recruiting left ND with empty sophomore and junior classes going against SC's 4 classes of 5 star players. It's just too big a gap for the players there and coach Weis to overcome. The freshman class will help and Weis' class this year as well, but it'll be another few years before ND can compete with the depth and talent at SC

[unknown-swac]

Ty's focus on his golf game while at ND to the detriment of his recruiting left ND with empty sophomore and junior classes going against SC's 4 classes of 5 star players. It's just too big a gap for the players there and coach Weis to overcome. The freshman class will help and Weis' class this year as well, but it'll be another few years before ND can compete with the depth and talent at SC

Notre Dame will never outrecruit USC. If you look at some of the blue chippers USC has on that sideline and some of the ones that they've got to commit from this graduating HS class youll see why. I think Notre Dame jumped the gun in giving Weiss a 10 year extension after last season.

[ucdtim17]

Notre Dame will never outrecruit USC. If you look at some of the blue chippers USC has on that sideline and some of the ones that they've got to commit from this graduating HS class youll see why. I think Notre Dame jumped the gun in giving Weiss a 10 year extension after last season.


First of all, it's "Weis" not "Weiss." Second of all it wasn't that long ago SC lost 11 in a row to ND and no one ever thought they could compete with ND. SC is not going to be on top forever. No one ever though after Miami won 32 in a row or whatever it was that they'd be sitting here in '06 at 6-6. Of course ND "can" outrecruit SC. Things change :rolleyes:

[ucdtim17]

And it's only because of Charlie Weis that ND had a top-10 class last year and will again this year. Under TW we were duking it out with Syracuse and Indiana for recruits; even Carroll now admits he has to go up against ND for recruits, something that didn't happen under Davieham. ND gave CW that contract so other schools couldn't suggest to recruits that he's going to the NFL - he's earned it and will continue to earn it

[LacesOut]

Beautiful win for SC. Love it when ND gets pounded! Wonder who will steamroll the Irish in whatever Bowl game they are in?!

[dbackjon]

And it's only because of Charlie Weis that ND had a top-10 class last year and will again this year. Under TW we were duking it out with Syracuse and Indiana for recruits; even Carroll now admits he has to go up against ND for recruits, something that didn't happen under Davieham. ND gave CW that contract so other schools couldn't suggest to recruits that he's going to the NFL - he's earned it and will continue to earn it

Funny how Quinn and many of the other Notre Lamers were Willingham recruits......


Notre Dame - the San Diego of BCS football.....

[ucdtim17]

Funny how Quinn and many of the other Notre Lamers were Willingham recruits......


Notre Dame - the San Diego of BCS football.....

No it's only funny to people like you who know nothing about the situation. Ty was recruiting Chinedum Ndukwe as a safety when Ndukwe's father recommended he also look at the QB. Ty backed into Brady Quinn. Quinn had 26 TD's and 25 INT's in 2 years under TW. Under Weis, he has 67 TD's and 12 INT's (not to mention going 11-13 under TW and 19-5 under CW).

I hope you'll continue to bring up the fact that CW is playing withi Ty's players next year when ND is 7-4 because there will be 3 seniors and maybe 2 juniors playing thanks to Ty's lax recruiting efforts. And what happened to all those comparisons at the beginning of this year of how Ty and CW had similar records to start their careers at ND??? People don't seem to bring that up anymore :rolleyes:

[dbackjon]

No it's only funny to people like you who know nothing about the situation. Ty was recruiting Chinedum Ndukwe as a safety when Ndukwe's father recommended he also look at the QB. Ty backed into Brady Quinn. Quinn had 26 TD's and 25 INT's in 2 years under TW. Under Weis, he has 67 TD's and 12 INT's (not to mention going 11-13 under TW and 19-5 under CW).

I hope you'll continue to bring up the fact that CW is playing withi Ty's players next year when ND is 7-4 because there will be 3 seniors and maybe 2 juniors playing thanks to Ty's lax recruiting efforts. And what happened to all those comparisons at the beginning of this year of how Ty and CW had similar records to start their careers at ND??? People don't seem to bring that up anymore :rolleyes:

Next year will be what, Weis' third year? So the freshmen, sophomores and juniors will be Weis'. Keep churning up the excuses. ND will get 6-7 wins with the weak-ass schedule it has played recently, but you will be crowing on how great a coach Weis is :rolleyes: But like most Golden Homers, you can't look at the Irish objectively.

[ChickenMan]

Wonder who will steamroll the Irish in whatever Bowl game they are in?!

Michigan... again... in the Rose Bowl

[ChickenMan]

ND will get 6-7 wins with the weak-ass schedule it has played recently

but the real question is....... can ND beat Army... Navy and Air Force to win the Commader-In-Chief trophy...... again... :D

[dbackjon]

but the real question is....... can ND beat Army... Navy and Air Force to win the Commader-In-Chief trophy...... again... :D

xlolx xlolx xlolx

I think they are adding the Coast Guard next year as well.

[LacesOut]

Michigan... again... in the Rose Bowl

Ewww, I don't want to see that game again. I'd rather see ND get smoked by Texas or LSU.

[ChickenMan]

Ewww, I don't want to see that game again. I'd rather see ND get smoked by Texas or LSU.

Unless UCLA upsets USC to send Michigan into the BCS title game... Michigan is locked into the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl has first choice of the BCS eligible teams... and no doubt that the Rose will select Notre Dame... not on merit... but on reputation.

[ucdtim17]

Next year will be what, Weis' third year? So the freshmen, sophomores and juniors will be Weis'. Keep churning up the excuses. ND will get 6-7 wins with the weak-ass schedule it has played recently, but you will be crowing on how great a coach Weis is :rolleyes: But like most Golden Homers, you can't look at the Irish objectively.


The juniors will be Ty's last class - he was fired and his assistants dropped everything and Weis & co. had to scramble to keep the guys that had already committed. I don't need to make excuses for back to back BCS bowls (only tOSU and USC will be doing that). That "weak-ass" schedule is ranked 19th overall, ahead of teams like tOSU, LSU, Louisville, Florida, Ark, Auburn, WVU, Oklahoma, etc etc etc. So give it up already.

Weis has convinced us ND fans and the administration that he's the man for the job and thankfully those are the only opinions that matter. If it were up to you and the rest of the college football world, we'd still have Ty, we'd be 8-4 at best and headed for our third Gator Bowl in a row. We'd have the 30th best recruiting classes and everyone would agree that it's impossible to win at ND anymore. As it is, even though next year will be rough, I can't wait to see how all the younger players develop.

[ucdtim17]

Unless UCLA upsets USC to send Michigan into the BCS title game... Michigan is locked into the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl has first choice of the BCS eligible teams... and no doubt that the Rose will select Notre Dame... not on merit... but on reputation.

They very well could pick LSU because as I said, no one wants to see the ND-UM rematch. Maybe they'll work out a deal with the Sugar

[ChickenMan]

They very well could pick LSU because as I said, no one wants to see the ND-UM rematch. Maybe they'll work out a deal with the Sugar

with all the brain dead ND fans out there... there's NO way the Rose Bowl will pass on ND in favor of LSU or anyone else. Like I said... it's not about merit... it's about TV ratings...

[dbackjon]

with all the brain dead ND fans out there... there's NO way the Rose Bowl will pass on ND in favor of LSU or anyone else. Like I said... it's not about merit... it's about TV ratings...

Even Boise State has more quality wins than Notre Dame.....

[ucdtim17]

with all the brain dead ND fans out there... there's NO way the Rose Bowl will pass on ND in favor of LSU or anyone else. Like I said... it's not about merit... it's about TV ratings...


Well that's some brilliant insight there - obviously only one bowl has a goal to get the best 2 teams. But it's also not a strict calculation of who will deliver the highest ratings. Matchups are considered. ND was BCS eligible in '02 but wasn't selected. The difference in TV ratings between an LSU-UM RB and an ND-UM RB might not be big enough to justify the rematch no one really wants. With ND in the Rose, the Sugar might be forced to choose between LSU-Ark/UF or Louisville-Ark/UF. ND-UF Sugar and LSU-UM creates 2 attractive bowls while the alternative creates zero. Something will give

[ucdtim17]

Even Boise State has more quality wins than Notre Dame.....

This is getting ridiculous - there are 98 teams with stronger schedules than Boise. Your personal rankings hold as much weight as me picking teams by throwing darts. Boise is 2-0 vs. top 30 teams and ND is 2-2. 2=2. Boise is 3-0 against top 50 and ND is 4-2. 4>3. Once again, give it up

[ucdtim17]

A downside of ND being a national player again is I have to sit here and defend them from these potshots from people who hate the attention ND gets and the fact that they're on NBC every weekend. It is annoying but it's a price I'm willing to pay. Luckily I have reality on my side.

ND 10-2 with the 19th best SOS and BCS-bound for the second year in a row. Life is good

[ChickenMan]

Life is good


as long as you can keep those mighty service academies on your schedule... :p

[ChickenMan]

Boise is 2-0 vs. top 30 teams and ND is 2-2. 2=2. Boise is 3-0 against top 50 and ND is 4-2. 4>3. Once again, give it up


4>3... but how about in the 'L' department... 0>2

with a much better mark vs Top teams... Boise St must be going to the Rose Bowl

[UNHWildCats]

Next year will be what, Weis' third year? So the freshmen, sophomores and juniors will be Weis'. Keep churning up the excuses. ND will get 6-7 wins with the weak-ass schedule it has played recently, but you will be crowing on how great a coach Weis is :rolleyes: But like most Golden Homers, you can't look at the Irish objectively.

Well Weis wasnt the coach the season befopre last and thus many students who would be Juniors next year may have locked into other schools so lets not classify his Junior Class as the best talent he could have had. But I think ND will only get better and could easily go on a USC type run.

[LacesOut]

Didn't ND only beat one ranked team on their schedule, Ga Tech? In NDs two losses, they didn't even belong on the same field as Michigan and USC.

And no one wants to see an ND/Michigan rematch. If ND does somehow get a BCS Bowl game, well then let them play a Rutgers or Boise State. Then maybe they'll have a chance to break their 8 or 9 bowl game losing streak.

And people think they'll be good next season? Don't they lose their QB and starting two WR's?? LOL They will need to seriously upgrade their defense also, good lord they are terrible.

Yep, I don't like Notre Dame. Never have, never will.

[ucdtim17]

4>3... but how about in the 'L' department... 0>2

with a much better mark vs Top teams... Boise St must be going to the Rose Bowl


First of all 0 is not greater than 2. Second of all, if you thought that through a little more, you'd realize ND's 2 losses are to the #2 and #3 teams in the country. A lot of teams would lose to Michigan and SC. Since Boise played a completely cupcake schedule, we'll never know how they'd fare.

[ucdtim17]

Didn't ND only beat one ranked team on their schedule, Ga Tech? In NDs two losses, they didn't even belong on the same field as Michigan and USC.

And no one wants to see an ND/Michigan rematch. If ND does somehow get a BCS Bowl game, well then let them play a Rutgers or Boise State. Then maybe they'll have a chance to break their 8 or 9 bowl game losing streak.

And people think they'll be good next season? Don't they lose their QB and starting two WR's?? LOL They will need to seriously upgrade their defense also, good lord they are terrible.

Yep, I don't like Notre Dame. Never have, never will.


It has been made clear that Notre Dame is not as good as the 2nd or 3rd best teams in the country. 10-2 against the 19th strongest SOS is good for 10th place - where they should be.

Secondly, I don't know who said ND would be good next year, but most people know they lose 18 senior starters and actual ND fans like me know there aren't any upperclassmen behind them thanks to Ty. We're all prepared for 8-4 next year (which is a "bad" year by ND's new, and pre-Davieham, standards).

If Ty were still coach, we'd be 8-4 this year (if we got lucky) and irrelevant. People would be saying the schedule's too tough (guarantee it) and that ND fans have unrealistic expectations. I'll gladly continue to defend ND from ignoramuses who don't know anything but love to take shots at ND when we're in the national spotlight

[ucdtim17]

It really is annoying though

[dbackjon]

First of all 0 is not greater than 2. Second of all, if you thought that through a little more, you'd realize ND's 2 losses are to the #2 and #3 teams in the country. A lot of teams would lose to Michigan and SC. Since Boise played a completely cupcake schedule, we'll never know how they'd fare.

That is a laugh for a ND fan to call Boise's schedule a cupcake.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hell - Boise beat Oregon State, something USC couldn't do.

And it is no accomplishment to lose to the #2 and #3 teams if you were never in the game and get blown out in each.

[LacesOut]

It has been made clear that Notre Dame is not as good as the 2nd or 3rd best teams in the country. 10-2 against the 19th strongest SOS is good for 10th place - where they should be.

Secondly, I don't know who said ND would be good next year, but most people know they lose 18 senior starters and actual ND fans like me know there aren't any upperclassmen behind them thanks to Ty. We're all prepared for 8-4 next year (which is a "bad" year by ND's new, and pre-Davieham, standards).

If Ty were still coach, we'd be 8-4 this year (if we got lucky) and irrelevant. People would be saying the schedule's too tough (guarantee it) and that ND fans have unrealistic expectations. I'll gladly continue to defend ND from ignoramuses who don't know anything but love to take shots at ND when we're in the national spotlight

Calm down, calm down. Just havin' some fun with ya!

It's just a message board, with words typed by strangers from all over the country. Don't take it so seriously! (especially my posts, LOL)

[ucdtim17]

That is a laugh for a ND fan to call Boise's schedule a cupcake.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Hell - Boise beat Oregon State, something USC couldn't do.

And it is no accomplishment to lose to the #2 and #3 teams if you were never in the game and get blown out in each.

Yes ha ha ha, 19 is barely even better than 99. They're practically the same thing!

If you keep saying it, maybe it will become true :thumbsup:

[ucdtim17]

Calm down, calm down. Just havin' some fun with ya!

It's just a message board, with words typed by strangers from all over the country. Don't take it so seriously! (especially my posts, LOL)


Yes I do take it seriously as I'm sure you take your team seriously

[dbackjon]

Yes ha ha ha, 19 is barely even better than 99. They're practically the same thing!

If you keep saying it, maybe it will become true :thumbsup:

Try only counting teams that ND actually beat...... ;)

[ChickenMan]

First of all 0 is not greater than 2.

it sure is when your counting loses.... xlolx

[Peems]

notre dame has one quality win and that is georgia tech. sure they play teams from the power conferences (penn st, Michigan st, ACC,) but they had to have a miracle to beat a bad MSU team. another heroic to beat an average UCLA team, and then they beat the almighty Stanford, UNC, and the three academies. The reason i hate them is because they are clearly not a BCS caliber team, but they are going to be in a bowl and that makes me angry and sad.

[ucdtim17]

Well good thing you don't have a say because the pollsters and computers don't agree with you. ND is ranked 10th and there are 10 spots in BCS bowls. They'll only be competing with Louisville for an at-large if Rutgers beats WVU saturday (assuming LSU gets the other one that's up for grabs). If WVU beats Rutgers, UL gets the BE auto and ND might be the only choice for the last spot.

[unknown-swac]

Notre Dame = the USD of D-IA football

[ucdtim17]

with all the brain dead ND fans out there... there's NO way the Rose Bowl will pass on ND in favor of LSU or anyone else. Like I said... it's not about merit... it's about TV ratings...

Apparently the Boston Globe is brain dead like me . . .

Rose Bowl would be OK with LSU-Michigan

November 29, 2006

Domestic tranquility among the BCS bowls? Maybe. According to several BCS sources, the Rose Bowl, with an eye on "what's best for the BCS," will invite SEC West runner-up LSU to play Michigan or Southern Cal (if the Trojans are upset by UCLA Saturday).

The official announcements won't come until Sunday, but barring a major change in attitude, the Rose Bowl is ready to have its first SEC team in Pasadena since Alabama in 1946.

Notre Dame would slide to the Sugar Bowl to face the SEC champion, the winner of Saturday's game between Florida and Arkansas. The Orange Bowl would then pair the ACC champion (Wake Forest or Georgia Tech) vs. the Big East champion (Rutgers or Louisville). The Fiesta Bowl would match Boise State vs. the winner of the Nebraska-Oklahoma Big 12 championship game.

And the BCS title game would be No. 1 Ohio State vs. No. 2 USC, as long as USC beats UCLA. A USC loss would probably put Michigan into the BCS title game.

Although there was some sentiment for a Notre Dame-Michigan game -- they are the two winningest teams in college football history and Notre Dame hasn't been in the Rose Bowl since 1925 -- the prospect of the third- and fourth-ranked teams playing each other also was appealing. It also solves the debate about rematches.

MARK BLAUDSCHUN

[Peems]

pat forde agreed saying that he predicts Notre Dame in the sugar bowl against Florida. however, he did say he believes that Notre Dame is undeserving and its possible that maybe louisville rains on the parade, but probably not seeing that the BCS is a popularity contest.

[unknown-swac]

pat forde agreed saying that he predicts Notre Dame in the sugar bowl against Florida. however, he did say he believes that Notre Dame is undeserving and its possible that maybe louisville rains on the parade, but probably not seeing that the BCS is a popularity contest.

Florida would smack Notre Dame silly...I don't even care to see that matchup. I'd rather see Florida & Rutgers, Louisville, WVU.

[ucdtim17]

Florida would smack Notre Dame silly...I don't even care to see that matchup. I'd rather see Florida & Rutgers, Louisville, WVU.


And yet you will watch it, hence the reason ND is picked over those other teams every year.


And as I said, LSU to Rose: http://www.wwltv.com/sports/lsu/stories/wwl112906jblsu.397db3cc.html

[unknown-swac]

Actually I havent watched a full Notre Dame game EVER unless they played another team I wanted to see. The only game I saw of ND this year was this past week when they played USC, and the same last year. I didnt watch the Fiesta Bowl either. If there isnt a team in it that interests me i'm not gonna watch it. You dont have to convince me they're popular and thats the reason they go to bowl games...especially considering they've lost 8 in a row.