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ursus arctos horribilis
August 3rd, 2015, 11:54 AM
These were some great posts to extend the new guys back in the day...I think it was circa 2007 or so. bobbythekidd (a legend) on AGS compiled this listing off of an old welcome aboard thread. Enjoy and if you feel like it make a new post and maybe we start an updated list that works along the lines of the humor shared amongst the fans in this one.



From the thread welcoming mountain_man.

1. Montana doesn't like Montana State

2. San Diego is overrated

3. NDSU should be #1 and got jobbed not being in the playoffs, in the minds of most

posters not from NDSU

4. A player from Cal-Poly will win the Buchanan

spelunker64

5a.You left off the fact that you are considered a Homer is you think your team has a shot

at winning a game!

BrevardMountaineer03

5b. The SoCon "is weak", and if you pick anyone other than App. St., Furman, and

Wofford, to finish in the top 3 you are absolutely crazy!

BULLDOG8180

6. You'll love it when AZGrizFan posts anything since he has the best avatar on the

board.

Cobblestone

7. Don't get involved in the GSU/BVG debate. No matter what you post, a GSU fan will

promptly tell you your an idiot and lack the necessary information.

8. It'll take a while, but you will come to understand every word from Mr. Chicken.

9. San Diego would've beat Ohio State this year.

10. App State is "over-rated"

11. Use the correct terminology when referring to FCS. Ralph knows where you live.

12. Refer all sexual/moral questions to Cap'n Cat in the lounge, he's our AGS resident

Dear Abby.

13. Don't ever post in Crapsville before the season is officially over for ASU. If you've

won the NC, don't post still because you'll jinx it for next year.

14. CatfishCCU is of unknown sexual orientation and very well might also be known as

AppGuy.

15. The Furman posters on this board are generally pretty cool, do not confuse them with

their purple companions on the UFFP.

16. Don't talk too much smack about WCU...their diehards are already probably

contemplating suicide as it is.

17. We'll never live down "hot, hot, hot." Before every big game, expect our opposing

team to bring it up like nobody has ever seen if before. Yes, we've explained that it wasn't

meant for release or to be a recruitment video. No, they don't listen.

18. Montana cannot lose at Wa-Griz, and don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

19. Don't get in the middle of a D1B/Cap'n Cat/UNH Wildcats vs. Baldy/AZGrizFan

political battle unless you have approximately 36-48 continuous hours available to argue

over pointless details.

20. If a team starts unexpectedly having a great season, expect their posters to multiply

1000x over (*ahem* San Diego).

21. Please don't criticize another poster for their lack of spelling. Sometimes you just

want to get you point across, not turn in a freakin' spellproofed essay.

22. Cap'n Cat bribes the girls in his pictures to appear with him, don't let him tell you

otherwise.

23. Anybody on here with over 3,000 posts officially has no life (I'm getting close, I

know).

24. IGO4UNI is ALWAYS drinking, feel no obligation to crack one open just to post on

his drinking threads, another opportunity shall come usually within 12-14 hours.

25. Don't tell Cap'n Cat you live near some good fishing spots unless your sure you're

cool with a HUGE dude crashing on your couch for a few days/months.

26. Don't be afraid to introduce yourself to fellow AGS'ers at a tailgate. Although perhaps

somewhat awkward at first, we're all usually hammered anyway.

27. App fans are despicable, vile pieces of trash to all opposing teams' fans following

their visit and loss at KBS. Accept this as the price of success.

28. Dave Coulson is a through-and-through App homer. Don't let his extensive

knowledge of all FCS teams and usually correct predictions fool you.

29. D1B did NOT in fact play for Liberty University as he is actually the anti-Christ.

30. Thou shalt be liked more around AGS if you change your avatar to a pic of a smokin'

hot chick.

31. Prognosticating and arguing about who's gonna win on AGS is to many more fun

than the actual game.

32. If thou talketh smack and thou team loseth, taketh not a few weeks off AGS in hopes

that we'll forget. Cometh back over and eat thou crow. We have long memories, anyway.

33. Honestly, the east-coast-bias thing is just stupid.

34. Thou shalt not post naked pictures on the bikini thread.

35. Arguing about whether or not is colder in one FCS city versus another and what sort

of advantage that gives is stupid, do not partake.

36. If an AGS fans' team is losing, chances are great it's the fault of the playcalling and

coaching. If they ran the team, things would be going a lot better.

ASU Kep

37)Great West is best.....if only this year.....and if counting only non-play-off wins

Rabit Rabbit

38) Bison95 is married and therefore hasn't had sex in a long time...he requires that he

lives vicariously through you.

39) UNHWildCats has a thing for Asians...

40) Mods are your freinds here....respect them

41) Any pictures of hot women that you come across or hilarious videos you are

OBLIGATED to post them here...

42) Once again, CatfishCCU's sexual orientation is heterosexual and Sticky Bunz is just a

nickname

CatfishCCU

43) Every FCS conference has the worst referees in the world!

Ohio Hen

44) If you have a teen age daughter, do not take her anywhere near a Northern Iowa

game.

45) If have a teenage asian son, don't take him anywhere near a New Hampshire game

46) If you think you know everything, you must be a Delaware fan

47) Don't be too impressed when it looks like Delaware fans always monopolize the top

ten of any contest held by or sponsored by AGS. 90% of all AGS members are Delaware

Fans. Also as bad as UD has been over the last few years, they have plenty of time to

trivialize

48) Contrary to any denials you have heard in this or other threads, Catfish CCU and

AppGuy04 are the same person. However, AppGuy is really straight

49) Contrary to any denials you have heard in this or other threads, billk and gannonfan

are the same person

50) I am, and you will be too, amazed at all the absolutely useless information known by

89hen

OL FU

51. The BSC is overrated---especially according to Hens fans.

AZGrizFan

52. Ralph is your friend and helper.

Ralph

53. Win or lose, Georgia Southern Sucks

OL FU

54. citdog is a very well adjusted young man. He is also a stark raving, one might say

RABID Secessionist! He and his Cadets are responsible for more dabauchery than the

Barbary Pirates! Ralph is also your friend and helper!

citdog

55. citdog pokes horses

OL FU

56. only if they let me buy them dinner first! (refer to #55)

citdog

ursus arctos horribilis
August 3rd, 2015, 11:54 AM
Also of a similar construct was a post from AZGrizfan (another legend form the past) that had some other "things I've learned" type of intent.



Originally Posted by AZGrizFan

Since I’m sure most of youse guys never figured me for makin’it this far, as I approach the five figure milestone of 10,000 posts I’d like to take this time to reflect on a few of

the things I’ve learned in the time I’ve spent here on AGS:

1) Grizo is The Man. And one day I shall party at his tailgate.

2) No matter what name SyntaxError posts under, any opinion that differs from his is simply ignorant, unreasoned, uneducated smack.

3) Baldy…….is…And one day, I shall party at his house.

4) The GPI is a joke….in fact, I’ve yet to see a computer-based model that comes anywhere near being accurate.

5) Regionalization sucks. Period. The 11/23/07 UD/DSU game is living proof of that.

6) Cap’n Cat is king. Which, I think, is better than being a Cap’n.

7) There are several voices of reason on this board, including but not limited to: 89Hen, Ivytalk, Baldy, Grizo, CSUBUCDAD, HLecter, blukeys, Blueballs, Seattlegriz, aggie6thman, Gil Dobie, Mountaineer#96, bobbythekidd, and moi. The rest of you are questionable. Some of you (Tod, SyntaxError, UNHWildcats to name a few) are downright looney and should just stay OUT of the political forums altogether….

8) GannonFan may be the smartest guy on the planet---except in the trivia game.

9) The playoff committee needs to go back to seeding all 16 teams. Immediately.

10) The MEAC needs to lose their AQ status. Immediately.

11) They need to break up the CAA into two different conferences---or make them play ALL conference mates and eliminate OOC games.

12) The Big Sky and GWFC need to merge---really.

13) Cleets never made a serious post in his life. Even HE doesn’t take himself seriously.

14) The Big Sky Conference is Montana and everybody else.

15) The sucky teams in the Eastern conferences are WAAAY better than the sucky teams in the Western conferences.

16) Western Carolina, URI and and Indiana State would all finish no worse than 2nd in the Big Fluffy Sky.

17) NDSU would finish first in the Big 10.

18) ASU would beat Michigan 9 out of 10 times if they played that many.

19) Fishnet stockings = Porn….apparently….in some circles.

20) Mrklean LIKES TO TALK IN ALL CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!! AND HE USES A LOT OF EXCLAIMATION POINTS TO GET HIS POINT ACROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21) Montana’s football team is peopled with criminals and miscreants.

22) OB55 may have the greatest life of anyone on this board.

23) Dbackjon is a gay, extremely liberal Lumberjacks fan. I’m a straight, moderately conservative Grizzlies fan. Other than that, we have a lot in common. I’ve met him. Trust me on this.

24) The Bikini Thread is the greatest thread ever invented. And that is precisely WHY the powers that be will never let it reappear on these pages.

25) Blueballs…….yes.

and for extra credit, I've learned that my wife is the supreme knowledgeable one in "all things Griz related".....I shall never question her again.

And there you have it. 10,000 posts. Most were boring little one-liners, but I've managed to accumulate almost 9,000 rep points, 4 warnings, 5 strikes and 1 10 day ban. Not bad, but I feel I'm slipping. As the official AGS Troublemaker, it's my duty to "stir the pot", so to speak. I shall endeavor in the next 10,000 to to a better job of living up to that lofty moniker.

Peace to all, and a heartfelt thanks to the BOD, Mods, and administration that provides this place for us all to gather and discuss the myriad of things we discuss.....and sometimes football.

Tom (aka, AZGrizFan)

813Jag
August 3rd, 2015, 12:09 PM
That was a trip down memory lane

gotts
August 3rd, 2015, 12:22 PM
0.) Needs more Lehigh

superman7515
August 3rd, 2015, 12:29 PM
For the last ten years, the top of the FBS/1A was 30 seconds away from breaking away from the bottom of the FBS/1A and creating their own divison. At that point, what's left of the FBS/1A was going to merge with the top of the FCS/1AA and create a new subdivison in NCAA D1.

Strangely enough, despite every single conference move, television deal, act of God, city council election, and dog fart over the last decade being yet another sign that it was imminent, it has never happened.

In ten more years, it will still be 30 seconds away.

AshevilleApp2
August 3rd, 2015, 12:36 PM
These were some great posts to extend the new guys back in the day...I think it was circa 2007 or so. bobbythekidd (a legend) on AGS compiled this listing off of an old welcome aboard thread. Enjoy and if you feel like it make a new post and maybe we start an updated list that works along the lines of the humor shared amongst the fans in this one.



From the thread welcoming mountain_man.

1. Montana doesn't like Montana State

2. San Diego is overrated

3. NDSU should be #1 and got jobbed not being in the playoffs, in the minds of most

posters not from NDSU

4. A player from Cal-Poly will win the Buchanan

spelunker64

5a.You left off the fact that you are considered a Homer is you think your team has a shot

at winning a game!

BrevardMountaineer03

5b. The SoCon "is weak", and if you pick anyone other than App. St., Furman, and

Wofford, to finish in the top 3 you are absolutely crazy!

BULLDOG8180

6. You'll love it when AZGrizFan posts anything since he has the best avatar on the

board.

Cobblestone

7. Don't get involved in the GSU/BVG debate. No matter what you post, a GSU fan will

promptly tell you your an idiot and lack the necessary information.

8. It'll take a while, but you will come to understand every word from Mr. Chicken.

9. San Diego would've beat Ohio State this year.

10. App State is "over-rated"

11. Use the correct terminology when referring to FCS. Ralph knows where you live.

12. Refer all sexual/moral questions to Cap'n Cat in the longue, he's our AGS resident

Dear Abby.

13. Don't ever post in Crapsville before the season is officially over for ASU. If you've

won the NC, don't post still because you'll jinx it for next year.

14. CatfishCCU is of unknown sexual orientation and very well might also be known as

AppGuy.

15. The Furman posters on this board are generally pretty cool, do not confuse them with

their purple companions on the UFFP.

16. Don't talk too much smack about WCU...their diehards are already probably

contemplating suicide as it is.

17. We'll never live down "hot, hot, hot." Before every big game, expect our opposing

team to bring it up like nobody has ever seen if before. Yes, we've explained that it wasn't

meant for release or to be a recruitment video. No, they don't listen.

18. Montana cannot lose at Wa-Griz, and don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

19. Don't get in the middle of a D1B/Cap'n Cat/UNH Wildcats vs. Baldy/AZGrizFan

political battle unless you have approximately 36-48 continuous hours available to argue

over pointless details.

20. If a team starts unexpectedly having a great season, expect their posters to multiply

1000x over (*ahem* San Diego).

21. Please don't criticize another poster for their lack of spelling. Sometimes you just

want to get you point across, not turn in a freakin' spellproofed essay.

22. Cap'n Cat bribes the girls in his pictures to appear with him, don't let him tell you

otherwise.

23. Anybody on here with over 3,000 posts officially has no life (I'm getting close, I

know).

24. IGO4UNI is ALWAYS drinking, feel no obligation to crack one open just to post on

his drinking threads, another opportunity shall come usually within 12-14 hours.

25. Don't tell Cap'n Cat you live near some good fishing spots unless your sure you're

cool with a HUGE dude crashing on your couch for a few days/months.

26. Don't be afraid to introduce yourself to fellow AGS'ers at a tailgate. Although perhaps

somewhat awkward at first, we're all usually hammered anyway.

27. App fans are despicable, vile pieces of trash to all opposing teams' fans following

their visit and loss at KBS. Accept this as the price of success.

28. Dave Coulson is a through-and-through App homer. Don't let his extensive

knowledge of all FCS teams and usually correct predictions fool you.

29. D1B did NOT in fact play for Liberty University as he is actually the anti-Christ.

30. Thou shalt be liked more around AGS if you change your avatar to a pic of a smokin'

hot chick.

31. Prognosticating and arguing about who's gonna win on AGS is to many more fun

than the actual game.

32. If thou talketh smack and thou team loseth, taketh not a few weeks off AGS in hopes

that we'll forget. Cometh back over and eat thou crow. We have long memories, anyway.

33. Honestly, the east-coast-bias thing is just stupid.

34. Thou shalt not post naked pictures on the bikini thread.

35. Arguing about whether or not is colder in one FCS city versus another and what sort

of advantage that gives is stupid, do not partake.

36. If an AGS fans' team is losing, chances are great it's the fault of the playcalling and

coaching. If they ran the team, things would be going a lot better.

ASU Kep

37)Great West is best.....if only this year.....and if counting only non-play-off wins

Rabit Rabbit

38) Bison95 is married and therefore hasn't had sex in a long time...he requires that he

lives vicariously through you.

39) UNHWildCats has a thing for Asians...

40) Mods are your freinds here....respect them

41) Any pictures of hot women that you come across or hilarious videos you are

OBLIGATED to post them here...

42) Once again, CatfishCCU's sexual orientation is heterosexual and Sticky Bunz is just a

nickname

CatfishCCU

43) Every FCS conference has the worst referees in the world!

Ohio Hen

44) If you have a teen age daughter, do not take her anywhere near a Northern Iowa

game.

45) If have a teenage asian son, don't take him anywhere near a New Hampshire game

46) If you think you know everything, you must be a Delaware fan

47) Don't be too impressed when it looks like Delaware fans always monopolize the top

ten of any contest held by or sponsored by AGS. 90% of all AGS members are Delaware

Fans. Also as bad as UD has been over the last few years, they have plenty of time to

trivialize

48) Contrary to any denials you have heard in this or other threads, Catfish CCU and

AppGuy04 are the same person. However, AppGuy is really straight

49) Contrary to any denials you have heard in this or other threads, billk and gannonfan

are the same person

50) I am, and you will be too, amazed at all the absolutely useless information known by

89hen

OL FU

51. The BSC is overrated---especially according to Hens fans.

AZGrizFan

52. Ralph is your friend and helper.

Ralph

53. Win or lose, Georgia Southern Sucks

OL FU

54. citdog is a very well adjusted young man. He is also a stark raving, one might say

RABID Secessionist! He and his Cadets are responsible for more dabauchery than the

Barbary Pirates! Ralph is also your friend and helper!

citdog

55. citdog pokes horses

OL FU

56. only if they let me buy them dinner first! (refer to #55)

citdog


It's Bob dammit!

BisonFan02
August 3rd, 2015, 01:02 PM
This thread doesn't have enough gifs. xlolx

RichH2
August 3rd, 2015, 02:03 PM
I go back to Ralph . Hard to rsalize its been 11 years. Thread brings to mind SYNTAX. Should include Bogie,the funniest poster ever on here.

Go...gate
August 4th, 2015, 12:10 AM
A GREAT trip down Memory Lane. Thanks for posting. xthumbsupx

- - - Updated - - -


I go back to Ralph . Hard to rsalize its been 11 years. Thread brings to mind SYNTAX. Should include Bogie,the funniest poster ever on here.

I don't know where the time goes.

bonarae
August 4th, 2015, 02:14 AM
These two posts were really throwbacks to years past... I really miss the good old days, back when AGS was busier... xbawlingx and not overrun with the fans of newer FCS teams just as it is today... xsmhx

AshevilleApp2
August 4th, 2015, 03:19 AM
These two posts were really throwbacks to years past... I really miss the good old days, back when AGS was busier... xbawlingx and not overrun with the fans of newer FCS teams just as it is today... xsmhx

I agree we've lost some fun posters. I think the overrun of fans of certain schools is part of who is winning though. We used to have a lot of Delaware fans. How many App fans around 2007? When NDSU goes a year or two without a championship, I think you'll see a drop off. Some will stay of course.

813Jag
August 4th, 2015, 06:39 AM
I agree we've lost some fun posters. I think the overrun of fans of certain schools is part of who is winning though. We used to have a lot of Delaware fans. How many App fans around 2007? When NDSU goes a year or two without a championship, I think you'll see a drop off. Some will stay of course.
Remember the couple San Diego fans lol

tomq04
August 4th, 2015, 10:36 AM
Seems like I missed out on the fun times, good thread!

ursus arctos horribilis
August 4th, 2015, 11:26 AM
I agree we've lost some fun posters. I think the overrun of fans of certain schools is part of who is winning though. We used to have a lot of Delaware fans. How many App fans around 2007? When NDSU goes a year or two without a championship, I think you'll see a drop off. Some will stay of course.

This is dead on. It's always been a case of "who's on top" to bring the additional fans so it is exactly the same as it was in that respect. These sorts of fun times is exactly what I was talking about being missing from this place a couple weeks ago. Most of the patrons were sp=lit politically like they are now but there was a ton of fun being poked instead of the all steroided up vigor that everything has to be talked about now. There are a ton of good people here now as well but they just choose to act like dicks instead of having fun a lot of the time.

I'm looking at you AA2.:D

ursus arctos horribilis
August 4th, 2015, 11:28 AM
Seems like I missed out on the fun times, good thread!

There is a very rich history to this place for sure and be comforted in the fact that you are here to continue the tradition.

AshevilleApp2
August 4th, 2015, 01:39 PM
This is dead on. It's always been a case of "who's on top" to bring the additional fans so it is exactly the same as it was in that respect. These sorts of fun times is exactly what I was talking about being missing from this place a couple weeks ago. Most of the patrons were sp=lit politically like they are now but there was a ton of fun being poked instead of the all steroided up vigor that everything has to be talked about now. There are a ton of good people here now as well but they just choose to act like dicks instead of having fun a lot of the time.

I'm looking at you AA2.:D

I forgot how. :D

:p

BisonFan02
August 4th, 2015, 04:21 PM
There is a very rich history to this place for sure and be comforted in the fact that you are here to continue the tradition.

Never Forget.... xlolx

TheRevSFA
August 4th, 2015, 04:27 PM
Perhaps a modern update is in order

ursus arctos horribilis
August 4th, 2015, 04:58 PM
Perhaps a modern update is in order
Yeah, I thought I put that in the post but that's the idea. Put together a new list in the spirit of that one. Someone else is welcome to curate it as I'm doing a ton of other things right at the moment.

NoDak 4 Ever
August 4th, 2015, 05:00 PM
Yeah, I thought I put that in the post but that's the idea. Put together a new list in the spirit of that one. Someone else is welcome to curate it as I'm doing a ton of other things right at the moment.

Preparing for my arrival in Missoula no doubt.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 4th, 2015, 05:05 PM
Preparing for my arrival in Missoula no doubt.

Yes, there are a lot of sticks and pitchforks and so forth that need sharpening.:D

NoDak 4 Ever
August 4th, 2015, 05:12 PM
Yes, there are a lot of sticks and pitchforks and so forth that need sharpening.:D

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ursus arctos horribilis again.

Go...gate
August 4th, 2015, 08:50 PM
There is a very rich history to this place for sure and be comforted in the fact that you are here to continue the tradition.

Well said, and it is a worthy tradition to continue.

ursus arctos horribilis
August 4th, 2015, 10:00 PM
Well said, and it is a worthy tradition to continue.

Thanks man, appreciate that from an ol' sage such as yourself. Thing is there are things in the past couple years and even things that the posters here do today that will have newer posters in the future going "damn, I wish I had been there when that was going on, I really missed out on some fun!":)

BisonFan02
August 4th, 2015, 10:11 PM
Thanks man, appreciate that from an ol' sage such as yourself. Thing is there are things in the past couple years and even things that the posters here do today that will have newer posters in the future going "damn, I wish I had been there when that was going on, I really missed out on some fun!":)

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3347201/so-much-room-for-activities-o.gif

Go...gate
August 4th, 2015, 11:39 PM
Thanks man, appreciate that from an ol' sage such as yourself. Thing is there are things in the past couple years and even things that the posters here do today that will have newer posters in the future going "damn, I wish I had been there when that was going on, I really missed out on some fun!":)

You are most welcome - the AGS beat goes on!! xhurrayxxbeerchugxxthumbsupx

superman7515
August 5th, 2015, 08:10 AM
My second note for the newbs...
No cops, yes lunch.

OL FU
August 5th, 2015, 10:31 AM
I can't believe I ever said anything bad about 89henxembarrassedx



































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AshevilleApp2
August 5th, 2015, 12:54 PM
My second note for the newbs...
No cops, yes lunch.

Yes lunch? Great memory though, I'd about forgotten about that guy. That was some fun ****.

AshevilleApp2
August 5th, 2015, 12:58 PM
Washington-Grizzly stadium is loud, and it's cold!

superman7515
August 5th, 2015, 01:19 PM
Yes lunch? Great memory though, I'd about forgotten about that guy. That was some fun ****.

He was good fun until he got arrested.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?91323-LegalGaSouthernEagle-Arrested

clenz
August 5th, 2015, 01:24 PM
Holy ****, I missed that.

Was that really him?

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

AshevilleApp2
August 5th, 2015, 01:27 PM
He was good fun until he got arrested.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?91323-LegalGaSouthernEagle-Arrested

I mistakenly just posted on that thread. But Ball Sack? xlolx No wonder he was such a dick.

Go Lehigh TU Owl
August 6th, 2015, 06:17 PM
0.) Needs more Lehigh

I can't believe there's not one jab at Lehigh given our presence on here over the years....there's always one team ranked OVERLEHIGH......

ursus arctos horribilis
August 6th, 2015, 07:38 PM
Holy ****, I missed that.

Was that really him?

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

Not that it's any consolation but that is the first time I have ever seen it also. xlolx

bkrownd
August 8th, 2015, 02:01 AM
AGS n00bie history brief #666 - 2003 Colgate beneficiary of suspicous playoff "blizzard" xeyebrowx

dungeonjoe
August 9th, 2015, 06:39 AM
Thanks for the thread retread. Mary and Joseph, do I remember the bandwagon riders on AGS in the day. I also remember fondly friendships made with a diverse group of guys.

People like BuckP that arranged for me to get a King Cake on Shrove Tuesday. I also remember some great debates/discussions on the boards with people like Cap'n Cat and D1B. As caustic as they could be, if you were civil with them, they would be civil with you---and still offer fine points in an argument.

Of Course, being drunk-dialed by the Cat early on a Sunday morning was an experience I don't want to repeat. :)

McNeese72
August 11th, 2015, 08:01 AM
I go back on this board (or its predecessor) when it was an EZ board many years ago. There might have been a version before that but I don't remember what it was. Before that the only I-AA talk around was on the AOL Div 1-AA messageboard. I don't know if there are any posters still around here that were on that. This would be back in 1994-95.

Doc

OL FU
August 11th, 2015, 08:23 AM
Where is BuckP?

dbackjon
August 11th, 2015, 04:10 PM
Of Course, being drunk-dialed by the Cat early on a Sunday morning was an experience I don't want to repeat. :)


Hey - Cap'n lost your number - could you PM it too me?

BisonFan02
August 11th, 2015, 04:50 PM
Thanks for the thread retread. Mary and Joseph, do I remember the bandwagon riders on AGS in the day. I also remember fondly friendships made with a diverse group of guys.

People like BuckP that arranged for me to get a King Cake on Shrove Tuesday. I also remember some great debates/discussions on the boards with people like Cap'n Cat and D1B. As caustic as they could be, if you were civil with them, they would be civil with you---and still offer fine points in an argument.

Of Course, being drunk-dialed by the Cat early on a Sunday morning was an experience I don't want to repeat. :)

You haven't lived until you get drunk dialed by ursus and co..... xlolx

grizband
August 12th, 2015, 12:47 AM
So many memories. I missed out on much of this history, but the older stuff brings a smile!

ngineer
August 15th, 2015, 10:56 PM
0.) Needs more Lehigh

I'll say!

ngineer
August 15th, 2015, 11:02 PM
Thanks for the thread retread. Mary and Joseph, do I remember the bandwagon riders on AGS in the day. I also remember fondly friendships made with a diverse group of guys.

People like BuckP that arranged for me to get a King Cake on Shrove Tuesday. I also remember some great debates/discussions on the boards with people like Cap'n Cat and D1B. As caustic as they could be, if you were civil with them, they would be civil with you---and still offer fine points in an argument.

Of Course, being drunk-dialed by the Cat early on a Sunday morning was an experience I don't want to repeat. :)

Good to see you still hangin' around DJ!! Hope things have been well...and yes, I miss "the Cap'n" as well.

jtthenutt
August 17th, 2015, 09:56 PM
I remember ever year that Iowa State fans and local radio in Iowa talks about how the FCS teams have no shot against the Cyclones. Then David Johnson happened one year and well...NDSU happened last year. But what do I know. My team wins more than 2 games a season

jtthenutt
August 17th, 2015, 09:58 PM
Paul Rhodes. Great guy in a tough place to win with no real success. Sucks because you're a fool or Hawkeye fan to hate him

skinny_uncle
August 23rd, 2015, 11:08 AM
Good to see you still hangin' around DJ!! Hope things have been well...and yes, I miss "the Cap'n" as well.
Anyone else think the Cap'n might still be lurking around?

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21210&stc=1

Pard4Life
August 24th, 2015, 10:43 AM
57. Lehigh is ranked too high. Or, too 'le high'.

bulldog10jw
September 13th, 2015, 09:19 AM
There is a very rich history to this place for sure and be comforted in the fact that you are here to continue the tradition.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ursus arctos horribilis again.

Go...gate
September 13th, 2015, 09:02 PM
Anyone else think the Cap'n might still be lurking around?

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21210&stc=1

The Cap'n and D1B were terrific. It would not surprise me if they checked in once in while.

Whatever happened to that other I-AA board?

bonarae
September 13th, 2015, 09:07 PM
Whatever happened to that other I-AA board?

CS? Still alive, but I'm not posting there often due to thread hijacking.

clenz
September 13th, 2015, 09:20 PM
The Cap'n and D1B were terrific. It would not surprise me if they checked in once in while.

Whatever happened to that other I-AA board?
Still around with more posts per day than this site (on non-FCS topics) I believe.

NDSUFREAK
September 14th, 2015, 03:31 PM
This is fantastic!! Certainly brings back some great memories...I have gone quite the length of time without posting here. Hope to be more involved in the future!

CID1990
September 14th, 2015, 03:37 PM
CS? Still alive, but I'm not posting there often due to thread hijacking.

Nobody hijacks threads on CS. We go off on tangents.

Oh and Obama is a muslin


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CID1990
September 14th, 2015, 03:38 PM
The Cap'n and D1B were terrific. It would not surprise me if they checked in once in while.

Whatever happened to that other I-AA board?

They ain't coming back here.

I almost didn't until Ralph/SE got the kibosh


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ursus arctos horribilis
September 14th, 2015, 03:42 PM
They ain't coming back here.

I almost didn't until Ralph/SE got the kibosh


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Actually they have both been back here but didn't post under their own monikers. D1B always says he is restarting but it's a joke betwen us I think like the way he retires over there. They have both posted here recently though.

clenz
September 14th, 2015, 03:50 PM
They ain't coming back here.

I almost didn't until Ralph/SE got the kibosh


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http://dayandadream.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/gty_462356716_70369282-750x400.jpg


I'm only here because Troy bought the site.







No joke

ursus arctos horribilis
September 14th, 2015, 03:55 PM
Still around with more posts per day than this site (on non-FCS topics) I believe.

Other forums outside of FCS stuff are fantastic there and a great buzz saw to be involved in. I enjoy that place so much.

I think it's possible that CS might have slightly more posts in off season, not sure, haven't paid much attention lately but CS is around 175-200/day and AGS is averaging 270/day over the last month.

clenz
September 14th, 2015, 04:08 PM
Other forums outside of FCS stuff are fantastic there and a great buzz saw to be involved in. I enjoy that place so much.

I think it's possible that CS might have slightly more posts in off season, not sure, haven't paid much attention lately but CS is around 175-200/day and AGS is averaging 270/day over the last month.
Right. Both have their place at this point.

This place is more of a dinner club type place. Things get heated but everything is on mostly the same types of topics and courteous (ish).
CS is a Wild West saloon circa 1849 in California. All bets are off on any topic.

I pretty much never post about football over there as there isn't much to be had.
I almost never post non-football here, because it's not where I get my bang for my free buck.

CID1990
September 14th, 2015, 04:09 PM
Actually they have both been back here but didn't post under their own monikers. D1B always says he is restarting but it's a joke betwen us I think like the way he retires over there. They have both posted here recently though.

When I say they aren't coming back I mean that they aren't coming "I want a Vagina" back


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malibudude
September 14th, 2015, 05:41 PM
I'll say!

Needs more cow bell

Responding to the post "needs more Lehigh"

My posting execution skills are suspect...

andy7171
September 18th, 2015, 12:36 PM
I didn't see anything about the Beijing Olympics!?!?

BisonFan02
September 18th, 2015, 12:41 PM
AGS is thirsty for ballgirls....I always

andy7171
September 18th, 2015, 12:43 PM
AGS is thirsty for ballgirls....I always
...don't finish my thoughts?

Appaholic
December 17th, 2016, 02:36 PM
I agree we've lost some fun posters. I think the overrun of fans of certain schools is part of who is winning though.....How many App fans around 2007?......

HEY!.....hey....I resemble that comment....

Appaholic
December 17th, 2016, 02:54 PM
Ahhh....memory lane....meeting Citdog & Ol FU in Greenville....meeting G8 & wife and Asheville App (among others) in Greenville follow up....drunk dialing Cleets while Citdog tried to jew down the hooker....a "Stormy" night in Missoula....comparing Citdog's bar tabs with TMan (RIP)...meeting Ursus, POLS, DBack and others in the Zoo....experiencing a game in Wa-Griz....giving AZ a special App St hat....partying with Cleets & OB55 while getting sexually-assaulted by Jaeger Bomb...

Gotta say I'm definitely not the same cat I was when I joined this board 10 years ago, and I'm grateful for that....but I've never met a greater group of folks....I've thoroughly enjoyed everyone on this board that I've had the pleasure of meeting in person....I look forward to a day in the future when I can re-kindle these old friendships again....well done AGS! (& CS!)....

ALPHAGRIZ1
December 17th, 2016, 10:36 PM
xcoffeex

ursus arctos horribilis
December 17th, 2016, 10:39 PM
xcoffeex

https://aromaticcoffees.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/rd.jpg

FCS_pwns_FBS
December 18th, 2016, 04:59 PM
58. Thou shalt not create game threads for playoff games until they are official. xcoolx

dewey
December 18th, 2016, 09:44 PM
58. Thou shalt not create game threads for playoff games until they are official. xcoolx

You would think that this shouldn't be stated but....it still happened.

Dewey

OL FU
December 25th, 2016, 07:20 PM
I started with AGS when I had a job that provided me a lot of time. A rarity in my life. I have met some awesome people and had discussions with a lot I haven't met. It has been good times.

dungeonjoe
December 30th, 2016, 04:22 PM
OL FU, i remember making a phone call to you at your place of work one time...disguised my voice as some kinda auditor and scared the purple out of you. Good times!!!

Bisonoline
December 30th, 2016, 08:09 PM
I met Ursus, AG1, Grizo and Clenz all at the same time. Plus the twins who many here dont know. Now thT WAS INTERESTING!!! and entertaining.:D

ANNNNNNNND Ive met Citidog. Thumper, Laker, Southern Bison.

BisonFan02
December 30th, 2016, 08:29 PM
I met Ursus, AG1, Grizo and Clenz all at the same time. Plus the twins who many here dont know. Now thT WAS INTERESTING!!! and entertaining.:D

ANNNNNNNND Ive met Citidog. Thumper, Laker, Southern Bison.

RIP Grizo.....poor fella didn't have a chance.

Bisonoline
December 30th, 2016, 08:32 PM
RIP Grizo.....poor fella didn't have a chance.

That weekend was rough on him.

citdog
December 30th, 2016, 09:10 PM
I started with AGS when I had a job that provided me a lot of time. A rarity in my life. I have met some awesome people and had discussions with a lot I haven't met. It has been good times.

Scalawags gonna scalawag....

OL FU
December 31st, 2016, 07:42 AM
Scalawags gonna scalawag....

Jew gonna jaw:p

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 2nd, 2017, 09:00 PM
I met Ursus, AG1, Grizo and Clenz all at the same time. Plus the twins who many here dont know. Now thT WAS INTERESTING!!! and entertaining.:D

ANNNNNNNND Ive met Citidog. Thumper, Laker, Southern Bison.

Some people are blessed...........

(Grizo not being one of them)

Bisonoline
January 2nd, 2017, 09:25 PM
Some people are blessed...........

(Grizo not being one of them)

The trip to your place was the tits. The party bus was epic.

For the noobs that havent heard this one.

A couple of years ago we go out to MT for the football game. One of the things AG1 and Ursus has planned for us is a party bus which is going to take us around town to the micro breweries and then a tour of Wash-Grizz Stadium. Now one must remember that the party bus has beer taps and cup holder-dispensers on the outside of the bus. (Rememer this for later on.)
So they are taking us around Mizzoula having a great time hitting the micro brews. WE finally reach Wash-Grizz Stadium. Every one get off the bus. First they wont let us in then they do. We walk around take pictures get the short tour. WE all go outside to get on the bus but the bus is gone. So we wait and wait guys are getting thirsty when here comes the bus at a high rate of speed. Instead of going around the traffic circle to pick us up he cross two lanes of traffic come in at an angle blocking 6 handicapped parking spots and one lane of traffic right in front of Wash-Grizz stadium entrance. Does anyone get on the bus? **** no. They are thristy. So all these guys are filling up there beer glasses, drinking and carrying on. The bus is parked illegally and nobody says a damn thing. So this one guy pulls out a cigarette and lites it up. In a flash there are 3 people rushing over to tell him he cant smoke his cigarette there and will have to put it out. WTF??? So the guy is standing outside, smoking a cig, drinking a beer the bus is blocking traffic and the only concern is the cigarette. Thought I was going to die laughing. They guy goes can I drink my beer? They said sure but the cig has to go. He smiles and puts the cig out and keeps drinking his beer. I will never ever forget that one.

ursus arctos horribilis
January 3rd, 2017, 01:35 PM
The trip to your place was the tits. The party bus was epic.

For the noobs that havent heard this one.

A couple of years ago we go out to MT for the football game. One of the things AG1 and Ursus has planned for us is a party bus which is going to take us around town to the micro breweries and then a tour of Wash-Grizz Stadium. Now one must remember that the party bus has beer taps and cup holder-dispensers on the outside of the bus. (Rememer this for later on.)
So they are taking us around Mizzoula having a great time hitting the micro brews. WE finally reach Wash-Grizz Stadium. Every one get off the bus. First they wont let us in then they do. We walk around take pictures get the short tour. WE all go outside to get on the bus but the bus is gone. So we wait and wait guys are getting thirsty when here comes the bus at a high rate of speed. Instead of going around the traffic circle to pick us up he cross two lanes of traffic come in at an angle blocking 6 handicapped parking spots and one lane of traffic right in front of Wash-Grizz stadium entrance. Does anyone get on the bus? **** no. They are thristy. So all these guys are filling up there beer glasses, drinking and carrying on. The bus is parked illegally and nobody says a damn thing. So this one guy pulls out a cigarette and lites it up. In a flash there are 3 people rushing over to tell him he cant smoke his cigarette there and will have to put it out. WTF??? So the guy is standing outside, smoking a cig, drinking a beer the bus is blocking traffic and the only concern is the cigarette. Thought I was going to die laughing. They guy goes can I drink my beer? They said sure but the cig has to go. He smiles and puts the cig out and keeps drinking his beer. I will never ever forget that one.

Was a pretty good time for sure. Lot of great Bison fans I met on that tour too. AG1 gets all credit on the bus hookup, that is a buddy of his that owns that one and does us a solid a few times now with his carriage and cartage.

The ciggy thing was pretty funny. xlolx

POD Knows
January 3rd, 2017, 01:41 PM
The trip to your place was the tits. The party bus was epic.

For the noobs that havent heard this one.

A couple of years ago we go out to MT for the football game. One of the things AG1 and Ursus has planned for us is a party bus which is going to take us around town to the micro breweries and then a tour of Wash-Grizz Stadium. Now one must remember that the party bus has beer taps and cup holder-dispensers on the outside of the bus. (Rememer this for later on.)
So they are taking us around Mizzoula having a great time hitting the micro brews. WE finally reach Wash-Grizz Stadium. Every one get off the bus. First they wont let us in then they do. We walk around take pictures get the short tour. WE all go outside to get on the bus but the bus is gone. So we wait and wait guys are getting thirsty when here comes the bus at a high rate of speed. Instead of going around the traffic circle to pick us up he cross two lanes of traffic come in at an angle blocking 6 handicapped parking spots and one lane of traffic right in front of Wash-Grizz stadium entrance. Does anyone get on the bus? **** no. They are thristy. So all these guys are filling up there beer glasses, drinking and carrying on. The bus is parked illegally and nobody says a damn thing. So this one guy pulls out a cigarette and lites it up. In a flash there are 3 people rushing over to tell him he cant smoke his cigarette there and will have to put it out. WTF??? So the guy is standing outside, smoking a cig, drinking a beer the bus is blocking traffic and the only concern is the cigarette. Thought I was going to die laughing. They guy goes can I drink my beer? They said sure but the cig has to go. He smiles and puts the cig out and keeps drinking his beer. I will never ever forget that one.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24279&stc=1

Bisonoline
January 3rd, 2017, 07:41 PM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24279&stc=1

And theres the proof!

OL FU
January 3rd, 2017, 09:05 PM
Jew gonna jaw:p

Kebin oh Kebin where fore art thou Kebin?

ursus arctos horribilis
January 4th, 2017, 12:02 PM
And theres the proof!

What is weird is that I didn't think twice about any of that. Seemed natural and when you look at the park job right over all the handicap area and drinking beers off the tap in front of the school and athletic center on a Friday afternoon might not have been normal. I still feel like it was though.

POD Knows
January 4th, 2017, 12:24 PM
What is weird is that I didn't think twice about any of that. Seemed natural and when you look at the park job right over all the handicap area and drinking beers off the tap in front of the school and athletic center on a Friday afternoon might not have been normal. I still feel like it was though.

It was pretty classic.

TheKingpin28
January 4th, 2017, 12:31 PM
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24279&stc=1

Where can a guy like me buy this bus? That looked like one hell of a party.

POD Knows
January 4th, 2017, 12:45 PM
Where can a guy like me buy this bus? That looked like one hell of a party.

The bus had just rolled up when I took the pic, it is a pretty good deal. I think it had speakers mounted outside of the rig so they could play music too.

ursus arctos horribilis
January 4th, 2017, 12:51 PM
The bus had just rolled up when I took the pic, it is a pretty good deal. I think it had speakers mounted outside of the rig so they could play music too.

Internal and external speakers and a hell of a system to crank out the tunes. I thought somebody got a better shot of the external beer taps though? It was probably on the thread for back then though and I ain't going looking.

POD Knows
January 4th, 2017, 12:58 PM
Internal and external speakers and a hell of a system to crank out the tunes. I thought somebody got a better shot of the external beer taps though? It was probably on the thread for back then though and I ain't going looking.

I took a hand full of pics but for some reason this is the only one I can find. I did take a pic of the external taps but I can't find it, must have deleted it for some reason.

TheKingpin28
January 4th, 2017, 01:03 PM
The bus had just rolled up when I took the pic, it is a pretty good deal. I think it had speakers mounted outside of the rig so they could play music too.

Sounds like my kind of party. Most buses nowadays have just the tappers built on the inside, but the outside makes it that much more enticing.

Bisonoline
January 4th, 2017, 04:56 PM
What is weird is that I didn't think twice about any of that. Seemed natural and when you look at the park job right over all the handicap area and drinking beers off the tap in front of the school and athletic center on a Friday afternoon might not have been normal. I still feel like it was though.

Oh yeah I was alright with it and really didnt think anything was wrong with it. But when the ciggy thing took place I started to notice the setting and found it really ironic and hilarious.

citdog
January 4th, 2017, 06:56 PM
I believe that I was the one smoking...

BisonFan02
January 4th, 2017, 07:51 PM
I believe that I was the one smoking...

Probably. One of my highlights was chain smoking cigars during the drive out there.....through scenic places like Wolf Point and ****. xlolx

ursus arctos horribilis
January 5th, 2017, 01:07 AM
I believe that I was the one smoking...

No, it was an NDSU guy that sort of looked like Spicoli I think.

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 5th, 2017, 01:25 AM
Sounds like my kind of party. Most buses nowadays have just the tappers built on the inside, but the outside makes it that much more enticing.

The reason the taps are on the outside, is because of the Missoula police/ sheriffs dept.

My friend that owns the bus went down to talk to them about driving people around town with open containers and if it was legal. Thye both told him it would be ok as long as the beer on the bus wasnt accessible from the inside...................................because pulling over 25 times a night and having drunk people bail off a bus next to the highway or a brewery to fill up is so much safer.

Whatever, that bus is a fun muther****er to run up and down the Bitterroot on a booze cruise

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 5th, 2017, 01:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtaQmi9LESM

TheKingpin28
January 5th, 2017, 11:42 AM
The reason the taps are on the outside, is because of the Missoula police/ sheriffs dept.

My friend that owns the bus went down to talk to them about driving people around town with open containers and if it was legal. Thye both told him it would be ok as long as the beer on the bus wasnt accessible from the inside...................................because pulling over 25 times a night and having drunk people bail off a bus next to the highway or a brewery to fill up is so much safer.

Whatever, that bus is a fun muther****er to run up and down the Bitterroot on a booze cruise

Sounds about right. Nothing better than a safe booze cruise.

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 5th, 2017, 12:45 PM
No, it was an NDSU guy that sort of looked like Spicoli I think.
I just hung out with that guy at the JMU game. He likey to party

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POD Knows
January 5th, 2017, 04:25 PM
I just hung out with that guy at the JMU game. He likey to party

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who is it, I knew most of the guys that were on the bus that were NDSU guys. I wasn't on the bus I just mooched free beer in the handicapped zone.

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 5th, 2017, 07:05 PM
I think his name is Jeff.....he was at OLines tailgate for the JMU game and remembered me. He likes to partake in more than just beer.

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Bisonoline
January 5th, 2017, 08:15 PM
I think his name is Jeff.....he was at OLines tailgate for the JMU game and remembered me. He likes to partake in more than just beer.

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Wifes name Lisa who was wearing the white mink coat?? But I dont remember Jeff at the Montana game and Ive never seen him smoke.

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 5th, 2017, 10:36 PM
Wifes name Lisa who was wearing the white mink coat?? But I dont remember Jeff at the Montana game and Ive never seen him smoke.

Different the gal with the white mink coat is married to one of the guys always at your tailgate.

This guy is maybe 28-32 skinny kind of a mullet/long hair he a good dude but he is always blasted "recreational substances" and drunk as ****. Let me see if I can find a picture of him, I really cant remember his name.....but I am guessing Jeff

Bisonoline
January 5th, 2017, 10:51 PM
Different the gal with the white mink coat is married to one of the guys always at your tailgate.

This guy is maybe 28-32 skinny kind of a mullet/long hair he a good dude but he is always blasted "recreational substances" and drunk as ****. Let me see if I can find a picture of him, I really cant remember his name.....but I am guessing Jeff

Did he talk your ear off. If so it was Joel, he is always **** faced. Not a member of our group.

ursus arctos horribilis
January 6th, 2017, 12:50 AM
I think his name is Jeff.....he was at OLines tailgate for the JMU game and remembered me. He likes to partake in more than just beer.

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That's the guy, I was gonna mention that part earlier when speaking of what he might have also been smoking. xlolx

Figured Spicoli worked well enough to get the point across, but he also has a similar look.

ursus arctos horribilis
January 6th, 2017, 12:52 AM
I think the dude has a hot shot or forest fire type job in the summers from what I remember him saying.

Bisonoline
January 6th, 2017, 12:57 AM
I think the dude has a hot shot or forest fire type job in the summers from what I remember him saying.

How about a climbing those big radio towers.

ursus arctos horribilis
January 6th, 2017, 01:11 AM
How about a climbing those big radio towers.

That could be it. I remember it being a fairly dangerous endeavor and impressed with it. I think that was it.

Bisonoline
January 6th, 2017, 01:15 AM
I think the dude has a hot shot or forest fire type job in the summers from what I remember him saying.

How about a climbing those big radio towers. Guy on the right.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r202/plnwtf/a4bQ8BY.jpg (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/plnwtf/media/a4bQ8BY.jpg.html)

ALPHAGRIZ1
January 6th, 2017, 01:45 AM
How about a climbing those big radio towers. Guy on the right.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r202/plnwtf/a4bQ8BY.jpg (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/plnwtf/media/a4bQ8BY.jpg.html)

Yep, thats who I am thinking of.

You are correct he climbs towers for a living, we talked about that because I used to do some of that "back in the day"

POD Knows
January 6th, 2017, 03:44 AM
Yep, thats who I am thinking of.

You are correct he climbs towers for a living, we talked about that because I used to do some of that "back in the day"

Yep. His seats were right in front of ours at the game. Never seen the guy sober but a pretty nice guy

ursus arctos horribilis
January 7th, 2017, 01:15 AM
Yeah, pretty sure that is him Oline.

Horatio
January 15th, 2017, 02:45 PM
This thread, seems, to be towering over the others

OL FU
May 25th, 2018, 08:30 PM
Ursus glad you leave these threads up at the top. Fun to go back and read them all!!!!

Go...gate
July 6th, 2018, 01:22 AM
I always get a kick out of this thread!

Go...gate
September 11th, 2018, 08:53 PM
Ursus glad you leave these threads up at the top. Fun to go back and read them all!!!!

OL FU, you and your family stay safe from Florence!

OL FU
September 12th, 2018, 05:32 AM
OL FU, you and your family stay safe from Florance!

Thanks much. Head down and life jacket on!!!

SCPALADIN
September 20th, 2018, 07:37 AM
34. Thou shalt not post naked pictures on the bikini thread.

Ok...how the heck did I miss/forget this thread?!?!