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smallcollegefbfan
July 9th, 2015, 04:19 PM
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STATS FCS PRESEASON ALL-AMERICA TEAM
FIRST TEAM
OFFENSE
Quarterback - John Robertson, senior, 6-foot-1, 221 pounds, Villanova.
Running Backs - Marshaun Coprich, senior, 5-9, 205, Illinois State; Chase Edmonds, sophomore, 5-9, 185, Fordham; Dy'Shawn Mobley, senior, 5-11, 215, Eastern Kentucky.
Fullback - Seth Fisher, senior, 6-2, 232, Richmond.
Wide Receivers - Cooper Kupp, junior, 6-2, 195, Eastern Washington; Darrin Peterson, senior, 6-2, 190, Liberty; Jake Wieneke, sophomore, 6-4, 210, South Dakota State.
Tight End - Josh Cook, junior, 6-3, 221, Idaho State.
Offensive Linemen - Jonathan Burgess, senior, 6-2, 305, Liberty; JP Flynn, junior, 6-5, 320, Montana State; Joe Haeg, senior, 6-6, 299, North Dakota State; Donald Jackson III, senior, 6-2, 277, Sam Houston State; Corey Levin, junior, 6-5, 285, Chattanooga.
All-Purpose - Johnta Hebert, senior, 5-10, 195, Prairie View A&M.
Place-kicker - John Lunsford, senior, 6-1, 180, Liberty.
Kick Returner - Pokey Harris, senior, 5-10, 173, Murray State.

DEFENSE
Defensive Linemen - James Cowser, graduate, 6-4, 258, Southern Utah; Javon Hargrave, senior, 6-3, 311, South Carolina State; O.J. Mau, senior, 6-2, 315, Gardner-Webb; Jonathan Woodard, senior, 6-6, 271, Central Arkansas.
Linebackers - Don Cherry, senior, 6-1, 221, Villanova; Luke Rhodes, senior, 6-2, 242, William & Mary; Darnell Sankey, senior, 6-2, 250, Sacramento State; Connor Underwood, senior, 6-3, 240, Indiana State.
Defensive Backs - Casey DeAndrade, junior, 5-11, 214, New Hampshire; Jermaine Hough, senior, 5-10, 180, Jacksonville State; Harlan Miller, senior, 6-1, 180, Southeastern Louisiana; Donald Payne, junior, 6-0, 215, Stetson.
Punter - Ben LeCompte, senior, 5-10, 200, North Dakota State.
Long Snapper - Kameron Canaday, senior, 6-4, 230, Portland State.
Punt Returner - Antonio Hamilton, senior, 6-0, 185, South Carolina State.

SECOND TEAM
OFFENSE
Quarterbacks - Jacob Huesman, senior, 6-2, 220, Chattanooga; Vad Lee, senior, 6-1, 225, James Madison.
Running Backs - Khairi Dickson, senior, 6-0, 182, Saint Francis; Connor Kacsor, senior, 6-0, 211, Dayton; Darius Victor, junior, 5-8, 210, Towson.
Fullback - Andrew Bonnet, senior, 6-3, 250, North Dakota State.
Wide Receivers - Chris King, senior, 6-1, 235, Duquesne; Lance Lenoir, junior, 6-0, 190, Western Illinois; Madison Mangum, senior, 6-2, 212, Idaho State.
Tight End - Jordan Payne, senior, 6-2, 220, Alcorn State.
Offensive Linemen - Robert Booker, senior, 6-3, 312, Missouri State; Bruce Johnson, senior, 6-3, 295, Maine; Zack Johnson, junior, 6-4, 329, North Dakota State; Garrick Mayweather, senior, 6-3. 314, Fordham; Aaron Neary, senior, 6-4, 300, Eastern Washington.
All-Purpose - Ed Eagan, senior, 5-10, 181, Northwestern State; Chandler Curtis, sophomore, 5-10, 186, Mercer.
Place-kicker - Michael Schmadeke, junior, 5-10, 165, Northern Iowa.
Kick Returner - Xavier Roberson, senior, 5-9, 180, Southeastern Louisiana.

DEFENSE
Defensive Linemen - P.J. Hall, sophomore, 6-1, 270, Sam Houston State; Victor Ochi, senior, 6-2, 250, Stony Brook; Devaunte Sigler, senior, 6-5, 292, Jacksonville State; Chima Uzowihe, senior, 6-2, 250, Liberty.
Linebackers - Kourtney Berry, junior, 6-0, 215, Alabama State; Deon King, senior, 6-1, 220, Norfolk State; Pat Meehan, senior, 6-1, 225, Illinois State; Christophe Mulumba Tshimanga, junior, 6-1, 240, Maine.
Defensive Backs - James Bradberry, senior, 6-1, 205, Samford; DeAndre Houston-Carson, senior, 6-2, 195, William & Mary; Tim Kilfoy, senior, 6-1, 191, Northern Iowa; Brent Spikes, senior, 6-1, 196, McNeese State.
Punter - Lachlan Edwards, senior, 6-5, 214, Sam Houston State.
Long Snapper - Josh Appel, junior, 6-2, 250, Indiana State.
Punt Returner - Ladarius Vanlier, senior, 5-8, 175, Tennessee Tech.

THIRD TEAM
OFFENSE
Quarterbacks - Dakota Prukop, junior, 6-2, 195, Montana State; Tre Roberson, senior, 6-0, 205, Illinois State.
Running Backs - Xavier Finney, senior, 5-11, 196, Idaho State; De'Angelo Henderson, junior, 5-8, 205, Coastal Carolina; Herb Walker Jr., junior, 5-8, 180, Coastal Carolina.
Fullback - Nick Butier, senior, 6-1, 240, Northern Arizona.
Wide Receivers - Seth DeValve, senior, 6-4, 240, Princeton; Paul McRoberts, senior, 6-3, 197, Southeast Missouri State; William Morris, senior, 6-2, 178, Davidson.
Tight End - Duncan Fletcher, junior, 6-4, 222, Furman.
Offensive Linemen - Clay DeBord, senior, 6-6, 305, Eastern Washington; Brett Eyckmans, senior, 6-4, 290, Eastern Kentucky; Andrew Jones, senior, 6-1, 280, William & Mary; Cole Toner, senior. 6-7, 295, Harvard; Byron Williams, senior, 6-4, 302, Stephen F. Austin.
All-Purpose - Tarik Cohen, junior, 5-6, 172, North Carolina A&T.
Place-kicker - Ryan McCrum, junior, 6-0, 228, Southeast Missouri State.
Kick Returner - Devin Brown, junior, 5-8, 155, Coastal Carolina.

DEFENSE
Defensive Linemen - Trevor Bates, senior, 6-2, 250, Maine; Teddy Corwin, senior, 6-5, 260, Illinois State; Al Page, senior, 6-2, 285, Wagner; Derek Rivers, junior, 6-5, 240, Youngstown State.
Linebackers - Akil Anderson, senior, 6-1, 203, New Hampshire; Kamu Grugier-Hill, senior, 6-2, 215, Eastern Illinois; Cory Magwood, senior, 6-2, 228, Furman; James Rentz, junior, 6-1, 230, Sacred Heart; Kendrick Van Ackeren, senior, 6-1, 220, Montana.
Defensive Backs - Marcus Alford, senior, 5-10, 160, Northern Arizona; Miles Killebrew, senior, 6-3, 223, Southern Utah; Matt Smalley, senior, 5-10, 195, Lafayette; Lucas Webb, sophomore, 6-1, 190, Chattanooga.
Punter - Chris Fraser, junior, 6-2, 208, Cornell.
Long Snapper - James Fisher, sophomore, 6-2, 212, North Dakota State.
Punt Returner - Michael Jones, junior, 5-10, 180, North Carolina Central.
Daytripper
July 9th, 2015, 04:26 PM
No disrespect to any of the players on the list, but any list without P.J. Hall as a first team D-lineman is not legitimate.
lionsrking2
July 9th, 2015, 04:29 PM
No disrespect to any of the players on the list, but any list without P.J. Hall as a first team D-lineman is not legitimate.

I agree. We played against two of the guys listed on the 1st team and P.J. Hall is better than both IMO. Not saying those two aren't deserving but if they're 1st team, Hall should be as well.
smallcollegefbfan
July 9th, 2015, 04:38 PM
Glad to see the buyer of TSN deciding to maintain FCS coverage!
smallcollegefbfan
July 9th, 2015, 04:41 PM
No disrespect to any of the players on the list, but any list without P.J. Hall as a first team D-lineman is not legitimate.

It's a numbers game in terms of only so many from the same position can make a 1st team. Hall is a DE and it looks like they put 2 DEs. If you are ranking the DEs I think you have to have Cowser and Ochi. Both have been productive players for more than one year and they are also fast players who didn't have the playoffs to increase their totals like Hall did.

I could also make the same argument for Jonathan Woodard over Hall. Woodard was earning the exact same type of awards as Hall back when he was a freshman. I think after those 3 I would certainly have Hall in there. Next year, if Hall continues what he is doing, he will certainly be 1st team.

With that said, I think Hall is a better player than any DT but it's good to have 1-2 DTs on the 1st team.

The big snub at DE is LaMichael Fanning. I don't know how hard he works but if his work ethic matched his talent this offseason he will be a 1st or 2nd teamer. That kid should be a mid round draft pick. He just didn't have the production but is a freak athlete with size who really played well against FBS powerhouse Michigan State. Keep an eye on Fanning.
smallcollegefbfan
July 9th, 2015, 04:44 PM
I agree. We played against two of the guys listed on the 1st team and P.J. Hall is better than both IMO. Not saying those two aren't deserving but if they're 1st team, Hall should be as well.

Woodard is a player who I can see arguing for dropping the most. He was very inconsistent. If you are looking at his top games then he would be unanimous first-team but if you look at some of his worst games you wouldn't even list him as a top 10 defensive end. Hall was a beast in the playoffs.
lionsrking2
July 9th, 2015, 04:51 PM
Woodard is a player who I can see arguing for dropping the most. He was very inconsistent. If you are looking at his top games then he would be unanimous first-team but if you look at some of his worst games you wouldn't even list him as a top 10 defensive end. Hall was a beast in the playoffs.

IMO, Hall is one of the two best "football players" we faced last year (SEMO's Paul McRoberts being the other). Cowser and Woodard are nice players but Hall was more disruptive against us and showed more ability to change the game in different ways. I get the politics of why he's not listed 1st team but IMO he should be.
Go Lehigh TU Owl
July 9th, 2015, 05:00 PM
The Patriot League is now 3 years deep, Fordham 5, in scholarship classes yet the league can only muster 3 guys on TSN All-American list? Something just isn't adding up...xeyebrowx
smallcollegefbfan
July 9th, 2015, 05:05 PM
IMO, Hall is one of the two best "football players" we faced last year (SEMO's Paul McRoberts being the other). Cowser and Woodard are nice players but Hall was more disruptive against us and showed more ability to change the game in different ways. I get the politics of why he's not listed 1st team but IMO he should be.

Cowser had some really impressive games but yours was not one of his best for sure. Hall's time will come.

McRoberts is not bad. I don't have him as an All-American simply because most of his production came in two or three games but if he could do what he did against Kansas every week, he would be a first-team pick easy.
lionsrking2
July 9th, 2015, 05:17 PM
Cowser had some really impressive games but yours was not one of his best for sure. Hall's time will come.

McRoberts is not bad. I don't have him as an All-American simply because most of his production came in two or three games but if he could do what he did against Kansas every week, he would be a first-team pick easy.

McRoberts broke his foot against us, came back in the game and still made the game winning catch in the final seconds. I believe he missed most of the rest of the season. That said, he's as good a WR as we've played against IMO ... the biggest issue with his production has more to do with lack of QB production than him personally. He's the real deal.
smallcollegefbfan
July 9th, 2015, 05:27 PM
The Patriot League is now 3 years deep, Fordham 5, in scholarship classes yet the league can only muster 3 guys on TSN All-American list? Something just isn't adding up...xeyebrowx

Who would you argue should be on a list? From the Patriot League there is Mayweather and Edmonds of Fordham and Smalley of Lafayette but that's about it at this point.

Below are the returning 1st-teamers from last year. Not much top end talent is back.

RB: Chase Edmonds, Fordham (Fr.)
WR: Will Carter, Bucknell (So.)
OL: Julie'n Davenport, Bucknell (So.); Garrick Mayweather, Fordham (Jr.)
PK: Jonah Bowman, Colgate (So.)

DEFENSE
DB: Jared Roberts, Lafayette (Jr.); Matt Smalley, Lafayette (Jr.)
P: Austin Devine, Lehigh (Jr.)

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McRoberts broke his foot against us, came back in the game and still made the game winning catch in the final seconds. I believe he missed most of the rest of the season. That said, he's as good a WR as we've played against IMO ... the biggest issue with his production has more to do with lack of QB production than him personally. He's the real deal.

Yes he is the real deal. Coming off an injury is always a good reason to bump a player down, simply because you don't know for sure how they well they will bounce back from rehab.
Go Lehigh TU Owl
July 9th, 2015, 05:38 PM
Who would you argue should be on a list? From the Patriot League there is Mayweather and Edmonds of Fordham and Smalley of Lafayette but that's about it at this point.

Below are the returning 1st-teamers from last year. Not much top end talent is back.

RB: Chase Edmonds, Fordham (Fr.)
WR: Will Carter, Bucknell (So.)
OL: Julie'n Davenport, Bucknell (So.); Garrick Mayweather, Fordham (Jr.)
PK: Jonah Bowman, Colgate (So.)

DEFENSE
DB: Jared Roberts, Lafayette (Jr.); Matt Smalley, Lafayette (Jr.)
P: Austin Devine, Lehigh (Jr.)

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Yes he is the real deal. Coming off an injury is always a good reason to bump a player down, simply because you don't know for sure how they well they will bounce back from rehab.

My point was more towards the fact that the PL still seems to wallowing around. I've yet to see any improvement, let alone a drastic one. Perhaps coaching/development has something to do with it.
BEAR
July 9th, 2015, 09:23 PM
Woodard is a player who I can see arguing for dropping the most. He was very inconsistent. If you are looking at his top games then he would be unanimous first-team but if you look at some of his worst games you wouldn't even list him as a top 10 defensive end. Hall was a beast in the playoffs.

So like when the waves are up the boat goes up and when the waves are down the boat goes down? Freakin' insightful of you. Let's look at some facts. NOT saying other guys aren't deserving. I just want to see what you are looking at with Woodard.

Sigh. Let's look at Woodard's career. Then you can look at his inconsistent play.

2014- Buch Buchanan Watch List
2014- Southland Conference Defensive Player of year
2014- Associated Press FCS All-American third team
2014- Southland All-Academic team
2014- TSN All-American
2014- multiple honarable mention player of week for defense
2014- Preseason all-conference team
2014 - Preseason all-American team
2013- All conference team
2013- Preseason all-conference team
2013- Preseason all-American
2012- Southland Freshman of the year.
2012- Multiple h.m. player of week
2012- All conference team
.... and others I can't remember.

But the guy got better year after year. He has done this with a new coach and in a system that allowed him to be double teamed because of that defensive scheme. That's 3 guys on the defensive front and he was one of them! Yet he played even better! How's that for inconsistent?

2014- 56 tackles (in a 3-4 defense) with 18.5 TFL, 10 sacks, 1 INT, 2 blocked kicks
2013- 49 tackles (with a coach that didn't want to be there), 10.5 TFL, 7 sacks
2012- 36 tackles, 11 TFL, 7 sacks

Now let's look at his NFL frame. He's 6'6" and 271 lbs.

Let's make a prediction for this season for him. Minus injuries or other not letting him play. I know our coach is changing up the defense drastically so he won't be team up like he was last year. His stats will be even better. His toughest games are at home. He gets OK. State to show his talent.

I'll take that kind of inconsistency anytime. xbowx
SFA 93
July 9th, 2015, 10:25 PM
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gotts
July 9th, 2015, 10:27 PM
So... Carson Wentz?
smallcollegefbfan
July 10th, 2015, 03:05 AM
My point was more towards the fact that the PL still seems to wallowing around. I've yet to see any improvement, let alone a drastic one. Perhaps coaching/development has something to do with it.

Ah okay. I thought maybe you were saying you guys were not getting a fair look. I was wondering who else would be All-America caliber. Certainly it is a surprise not to see more on the list.
smallcollegefbfan
July 10th, 2015, 03:09 AM
So like when the waves are up the boat goes up and when the waves are down the boat goes down? Freakin' insightful of you. Let's look at some facts. NOT saying other guys aren't deserving. I just want to see what you are looking at with Woodard.

Sigh. Let's look at Woodard's career. Then you can look at his inconsistent play.

2014- Buch Buchanan Watch List
2014- Southland Conference Defensive Player of year
2014- Associated Press FCS All-American third team
2014- Southland All-Academic team
2014- TSN All-American
2014- multiple honarable mention player of week for defense
2014- Preseason all-conference team
2014 - Preseason all-American team
2013- All conference team
2013- Preseason all-conference team
2013- Preseason all-American
2012- Southland Freshman of the year.
2012- Multiple h.m. player of week
2012- All conference team
.... and others I can't remember.

But the guy got better year after year. He has done this with a new coach and in a system that allowed him to be double teamed because of that defensive scheme. That's 3 guys on the defensive front and he was one of them! Yet he played even better! How's that for inconsistent?

2014- 56 tackles (in a 3-4 defense) with 18.5 TFL, 10 sacks, 1 INT, 2 blocked kicks
2013- 49 tackles (with a coach that didn't want to be there), 10.5 TFL, 7 sacks
2012- 36 tackles, 11 TFL, 7 sacks

Now let's look at his NFL frame. He's 6'6" and 271 lbs.

Let's make a prediction for this season for him. Minus injuries or other not letting him play. I know our coach is changing up the defense drastically so he won't be team up like he was last year. His stats will be even better. His toughest games are at home. He gets OK. State to show his talent.

I'll take that kind of inconsistency anytime. xbowx

The reason I put Woodard ahead of Hall is the fact that Woodard has done all that you just listed.

I'm talking about from game to game when I say inconsistent. Meaning I have seen a game with 3-4 sacks and then no sacks in a game. He can be the best in the country for a game and then blend in during another game. I'm very high on Woodard. I have him as a top level DE and don't believe you can have an All-America list without him. As for season to season he has been the best of all the DEs in FCS.

I know there are teams who saw him play who felt he was the best defender they saw and others who said he was 3rd-5th best because he was just good and not great like in other games.

As for his frame he is not quite that big but close. He was 6'4 7/8 (6'5) and 266 pounds at the junior pro day. Didn't know if you had heard that or not but still 6'5 266 is very good size. That's part of what makes him so stuff to stop in FCS and why he will get a shot in the NFL.
smallcollegefbfan
July 10th, 2015, 03:11 AM
So... Carson Wentz?

So many good QBs this year. I would put Wentz 4th right now but as for natural talent and upside for the NFL he is better than anyone on the list for sure. You have to take stats into consideration and the type of offense when picking a QB and those above him are all likely to put up better numbers. It's kind of like with Flacco. He was not the most dominant passer in terms of stats but his physical tools blew everyone else out of the water. That's what people will say about Wentz, except Wentz is walking away with titles while Flacco did not.
PaladinFan
July 10th, 2015, 06:43 AM
Impressive that Duncan Fletcher went from walk-on fourth string QB to all-american caliber TE in one season.

Also good to see Cory Magwood on the list. Good news for Furman fans is he is probably not even the best Paladin linebacker on this team.
Gangtackle11
July 10th, 2015, 07:22 AM
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gotts
July 10th, 2015, 10:14 AM
So many good QBs this year. I would put Wentz 4th right now but as for natural talent and upside for the NFL he is better than anyone on the list for sure. You have to take stats into consideration and the type of offense when picking a QB and those above him are all likely to put up better numbers. It's kind of like with Flacco. He was not the most dominant passer in terms of stats but his physical tools blew everyone else out of the water. That's what people will say about Wentz, except Wentz is walking away with titles while Flacco did not.

I was just curious as to where he's at if there are 5 others ahead of him.
smallcollegefbfan
July 10th, 2015, 10:27 AM
I was just curious as to where he's at if there are 5 others ahead of him.

You would have to ask Haley. I can see both sides. Wentz didn't have the individual stats of the others but he is a more talented player. I am projecting Wentz to be 4th in awards voting but I think he is the best NFL prospect of the group.
Herder
July 11th, 2015, 11:44 PM
You would have to ask Haley. I can see both sides. Wentz didn't have the individual stats of the others but he is a more talented player. I am projecting Wentz to be 4th in awards voting but I think he is the best NFL prospect of the group.

wentz is asked to hand the ball off burn clock when his team has a lead (most of the time).
smallcollegefbfan
July 12th, 2015, 01:56 PM
wentz is asked to hand the ball off burn clock when his team has a lead (most of the time).

That among many other things are why you don't put Wentz on a 1st or 2nd team All-America list but trust me if you are building a team of FCS players Wentz is the first QB picked and it's not even close. Wentz is the most talented QB in FCS. Put him at EWU as a freshman and give him 4 years and he would break every passing record in FCS history. He's that talented.