MVFC 2015 Edition

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Valley games tomorrow :

UNI @ NDSU

USD @ WIU

Ill St @ YSU

Ind St @ SDSU

MSU @ SIU


NDSU
WIU
Ill St
SDSU
SIU

[clenz]

Too funny, I had to get one on the way into work also. Who says advertising doesn't work.
To piggy back another thread...


I went with the diet citrus tea over the fatty citrus tea to make up the calories...

[ysubigred]

Wonder what the odds were of this thread turing into food porn 5 weeks into the season. It took too long if you ask me.

Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!

xthumbsupx

http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Weird-Sexy-Halloween-Costumes.jpg

[dewey]

Valley games tomorrow:

UNI @ NDSU
USD @ WIU
Ill St @ YSU
Ind St @ SDSU
MSU @ SIU

Here is my guess
NDSU
WIU
YSU
Indiana State
SIU

Dewey

[Bisonator]

Holy crap this thread took off!

And now I'm craving pizza you ****ers!xlolx

[clenz]

Holy crap this thread took off!

And now I'm craving pizza you ****ers!xlolx
My slice was extra cheesy this morning....so worth it.

You should get one

[Sycamore62]

So Steckel said Missouri St got their "butts belly-waggled"? That seems like something that should happen at a gentlemen's club, not on a football field.

SIR!!! The Sycamores' football team has not and will never participate in any belly-waggling of any other football team's butts of any sort.

[UNIFanSince1983]

All this breakfast pizza talk and I am just sitting here eating an apple because I woke up late and there is no Casey's anywhere near my route to work :(

[Bisonator]

My slice was extra cheesy this morning....so worth it.

You should get one

I'm going to for lunch, should have checked this thread last night. Too bad Casey's doesn't deliver!

[UNIFanSince1983]

I'm going to for lunch, should have checked this thread last night. Too bad Casey's doesn't deliver!

Some of them do now.

[Sycamore62]

Im going to drive by 2 caseys on my way to my hometown Casey today. Yes there is a Casey's in Casey. Yes the pizza is delicious. It tastes as delicious cold also.

[Bisonator]

Some of them do now.

None in Fargo that I know of anyway. Hopefully they start.

[clenz]

I'm going to for lunch, should have checked this thread last night. Too bad Casey's doesn't deliver!
One in my town does but not to my street.

I can order online just as I leave work and it's done just as I get there.

[birdsflyhigh]

Went a not great 3-2 on the first MVFC pick 'em....should have never believed in the Yotes. Here goes for tomorrow's games:

Bison > UNI
Necks > USD
Birds > YSU
Jacks > In St.
Salukis > MSU

Look for SIU to smoke the Bears, UNI to fall to 0-2 MVFC while the Yotes join them at the bottom, SDSU bounces back, and rounding it out the Birds survive one at YSU's Ice Castle. Four of MVFC round #2 games should be good ones.....COOL :)

[Yote 53]

None in Fargo that I know of anyway. Hopefully they start.

Another reason Vermillion > Fargo.

[Yote 53]

UNI @ NDSU

USD @ WIU

Ill St @ YSU

Ind St @ SDSU

MSU @ SIU


NDSU
USD
YSU
SDSU
SIU

[UNIFanSince1983]

I think I will throw out my picks (which I threw a lot of in High School):

WIU
YSU
SDSU
SIU

As usual abstain from picking the UNI game.

[PantherRob82]

My picks:
Dayton
Harvard
Dayton
Brown
Georgetown

[UNIFanSince1983]

My picks:
Dayton
Harvard
Dayton
Brown
Georgetown

What does W&M need to do to get some respect?

[PantherRob82]

What does W&M need to do to get some respect?

Not have a woman involved in their name. :p

[Thumper 76]

Look at the poor bastards striving valiantly to talk football

[BisonTru]

My picks:

Pancheros
Casey's
Erberts & Gerberts
Spitfire
Fuddruckers

[Twentysix]

My picks:

Pancheros ez win
Casey's breakfast pizza is too good
Erberts & Gerberts Ehhh, I prefer JJ ultimate porker or Jersey Mike's
Spitfire This place is terrible imo, I've gone 3 times and all 3 times I got food poisoning.
Wild Card: Mickies Dairy Bar the scrambler in Madison

and OH MY GOD I WISH THERE WAS TACO JOHNS HERE I could go for sausage scrambler for breakfast, 6 pack and a pound for lunch and everything else for supper.

[TheKingpin28]

Mezzalua. Eric is one hell of a chef. Not that I can afford that, but man is it good

[BisonTru]

[QUOTE=BisonTru;2263782]My picks:

Pancheros ez win
Casey's breakfast pizza is too good
Erberts & Gerberts Ehhh, I prefer JJ ultimate porker or Jersey Mike's
Spitfire This place is terrible imo, I've gone 3 times and all 3 times I got food poisoning.
Wild Card: Mickies Dairy Bar the scrambler in Madison

and OH MY GOD I WISH THERE WAS TACO JOHNS HERE I could go for sausage scrambler for breakfast, 6 pack and a pound for lunch and everything else for supper.

Big fan of Spitfire. I got food poisoning at the MHD Perkins, I won't step foot in that place again. I can't believe you got sick the first 2 times and then went back for a third.

[Twentysix]

[QUOTE=Twentysix;2263834]

Big fan of Spitfire. I got food poisoning at the MHD Perkins, I won't step foot in that place again. I can't believe you got sick the first 2 times and then went back for a third.

It was over the course of like 6 years.

[jacksfan29]

My picks:

Pancheros
Casey's
Erberts & Gerberts
Spitfire
Fuddruckers

LOVE Fuddruckers. Our only 3 in Colorado were closed due to bankruptcy.

Every time I get back to South Dakota I try to hit the one on 41st in Sioux Falls.

[Kemo]

Another reason Vermillion > Fargo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpuexiPFgnY

[UNIFanSince1983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpuexiPFgnY

That show is amazing!

[Twentysix]

Another reason Vermillion > Fargo.

Cause the town is so small that pizza can be delivered on foot?

[ST_Lawson]

Chipotle
Jimmy John's
unfortunately, can't eat pizza
Local (Macomb) wild card, Chubby's or Jackson Street Pub for the horseshoes.

Oh, and...

Bison over the Panthers
Leathernecks over the Coyotes
Redbirds over the Penguins
Salukis over Bears
Jackrabbits over Sycamores

[mmiller_34]

I could go for some Casey's pizza. YUM

[IBleedYellow]

I'm craving some Xtreme Pizza Kitchen at the moment.

[PantherRob82]

I hate chains. We have this mom and pop place called PizzaHut and they will drizzle a sauce on top of your pizza and brush the crust with flavor. Now that's service.

[centennial]

I hate chains. We have this mom and pop place called PizzaHut and they will drizzle a sauce on top of your pizza and brush the crust with flavor. Now that's service.
We have a mom and pop place called PizzaHut too. Small world.

[Sycamore62]

So all this talk about pizza and I'm off my low carb diet with Papa Johns. Its a local shop. Not aure if they are anywhere else.

[The Yo Show]

So all this talk about pizza and I'm off my low carb diet with Papa Johns. Its a local shop. Not aure if they are anywhere else.

Aren't they owned by Peyton Manning? I wonder how he rectifies owning pizza when he should own a restaurant that sells chicken parm.

[mmiller_34]

We have a mom and pop place called PizzaHut too. Small world.

Pizza Hut has gone down hill since the 90's

[PantherRob82]

We have a mom and pop place called PizzaHut too. Small world.

I think they expanded to a few locations.

[Thumper 76]

Anybody besides me been crazy enough to try that cookie sandwich from Caseys? Two cookies with an inch of frosting in between.

[centennial]

Aren't they owned by Peyton Manning? I wonder how he rectifies owning pizza when he should own a restaurant that sells chicken parm.
I **** you not. Knew someone in college that managed a Papa Johns. You would be surprised at the amount of people calling and asking for John.

[Drblankstare]

Anybody besides me been crazy enough to try that cookie sandwich from Caseys? Two cookies with an inch of frosting in between.

I might know a guy
http://www.anygivensaturday.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21438&stc=1

[JayJ79]

Aren't they owned by Peyton Manning? I wonder how he rectifies owning pizza when he should own a restaurant that sells chicken parm.

they should come out with a chicken parm pizza (if they haven't already)

revisiting the burrito topic, I stopped by Pancheros the other night (hence the chip question, although I found out that they are "blue corn", that just looked black, and they always have those).
The fresh tortillas are definitely a plus, as is their mixing of the ingredients (courtesy of Bob the Tool).
Burritos are a bit smaller than those at Pablos, but the price is a little cheaper. Pablos has better salsa, though, and their chips are free (although they charge for sour cream which Pancheros does not).

[Twentysix]

Pizza Hut has gone down hill since the 90's

The pizza hut in Dickinson ND had the best pizza on the planet in the 90s. There was a large scale methlab in the basement... I think that was the secret ingredient.

[Sycamore62]

The pizza hut in Dickinson ND had the best pizza on the planet in the 90s. There was a large scale methlab in the basement... I think that was the secret ingredient.

Ive found that it depends of the franchise owner. My hometown one is awesome.. Local one is just OK

[Bison56]

I haven't had a good pizza from pizza hut in 20 years. I'd rather eat the box.

[Professor Chaos]

Most people think I'm crazy if they've never tried them but if you find a Pizza Hut that isn't conglomerated with that awful Wing Street chain they have THE BEST hot wings. Seriously it even blows places that specialize in wings out of the water. The wings are pre-cooked and then sauced/seasoned. Then they run them through the oven so the sauce/seasoning bakes in and the wings aren't all slimy like they are at most places. You may think I'm crazy but I've converted more than a few disbelievers before my local Pizza Hut was ruined by associating themselves with Wing Street. Not much reason to order from after that.

[Kemo]

Most people think I'm crazy if they've never tried them but if you find a Pizza Hut that isn't conglomerated with that awful Wing Street chain they have THE BEST hot wings. Seriously it even blows places that specialize in wings out of the water. The wings are pre-cooked and then sauced/seasoned. Then they run them through the oven so the sauce/seasoning bakes in and the wings aren't all slimy like they are at most places. You may think I'm crazy but I've converted more than a few disbelievers before my local Pizza Hut was ruined by associating themselves with Wing Street. Not much reason to order from after that.
Have you tried any dry-rubs when ordering wings? I'm starting to go that route more often because the wings don't get soggy. Some are better than others, obviously. The Wing Stop in Sioux Falls has a Louisiana rub that is fantastic (though their other sauces and rubs are good, but not great).

Another plus to dry rubs is that it seems to burn less on the way out as well.

[dewey]

I'd rather eat the box.

I bet you would:D

Dewey

[X-Factor]

My picks:

Pancheros ez win
Casey's breakfast pizza is too good
Erberts & Gerberts Ehhh, I prefer JJ ultimate porker or Jersey Mike's
Spitfire This place is terrible imo, I've gone 3 times and all 3 times I got food poisoning.
Wild Card: Mickies Dairy Bar the scrambler in Madison

and OH MY GOD I WISH THERE WAS TACO JOHNS HERE I could go for sausage scrambler for breakfast, 6 pack and a pound for lunch and everything else for supper.
Sounds like a stomach problem ;)

I can't remember a time that I've even had food poisoning.

One of My Fargo Favorite - Vinyl Taco

[Yote 53]

Just thought I would let you all know we started off the day with a special order sausage & bacon breakfast pizza from Casey's this morning.

It was glorious.

[mmiller_34]

Conference Standings as of tonight:

Illinois State.................2-0, 4-1
North Dakota State.......2-0, 4-1
Western Illinois.............2-0, 3-2
South Dakota State.......1-1, 4-1
Indiana State...............1-1, 3-2
Youngstown State.........1-1, 3-2
Southern Illinois...........1-1, 2-3
South Dakota...............0-2, 2-3
Northern Iowa..............0-2, 2-3
Missouri State...............0-2, 1-4

[Drblankstare]

Sounds like a stomach problem ;)

I can't remember a time that I've even had food poisoning.

One of My Fargo Favorite - Vinyl Taco

Vinyl Taco has a badass pork belly taco.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Conference Standings as of tonight:

Illinois State.................2-0, 4-1
North Dakota State.......2-0, 4-1
Western Illinois.............2-0, 3-2
South Dakota State.......1-1, 4-1
Indiana State...............1-1, 3-2
Youngstown State.........1-1, 3-2
Southern Illinois...........1-1, 2-3
South Dakota...............0-2, 2-3
Northern Iowa..............0-2, 2-3
Missouri State...............0-2, 1-4



USD and MSU look like punching bags this year but it looks like any of the other teams can beat any of the others in the league.

Has SDSU found their future QB in this freshman?

[penguinpower]

I will say that the referees reviewed 12 plays on YSU and only 1 play on ISUr. Called a YSU DT for holding because he grabbed the RB coming between the tackle and guard. Didn't review a questionable TD by ISUr. Every big play YSU had was reviewed and it hurt the tempo of the game. That was by far the worst I've seen in 15 years. Just inexcusable.

I think the Penguins would love a rematch. YSU out gained ISUr and if it weren't for some bull**** calls, YSU would have taken them down. They are very beatable. Too many penalties and mistakes early in the game. Hopefully they will learn from it. Several penalties were just blatantly against YSU. I would be talking to the league office over the bulll**** I saw last night. Embarrassing that they are affiliated with our conference.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I will say that the referees reviewed 12 plays on YSU and only 1 play on ISUr. Called a YSU DT for holding because he grabbed the RB coming between the tackle and guard. Didn't review a questionable TD by ISUr. Every big play YSU had was reviewed and it hurt the tempo of the game. That was by far the worst I've seen in 15 years. Just inexcusable.

I think the Penguins would love a rematch. YSU out gained ISUr and if it weren't for some bull**** calls, YSU would have taken them down. They are very beatable. Too many penalties and mistakes early in the game. Hopefully they will learn from it. Several penalties were just blatantly against YSU. I would be talking to the league office over the bulll**** I saw last night. Embarrassing that they are affiliated with our conference.


I've witnessed a few head scratching calls from Valley refs for years. But looking at YSU's schedule, it looks like a pretty favorable one: No UNI this year and SDSU/NDSU are at home. Plus winnable road games. YSU looks pretty good and should make a run for the playoffs.

[penguinpower]

I've witnessed a few hi head scratching calls from Valley refs for years. But looking at YSU's schedule, it looks like a pretty favorable one: No UNI this year and SDSU/NDSU are at home. Plus winnable road games. YSU looks pretty good and should make a run for the playoffs.


Yea but where do you rank them? I still think they are a top 10 team even after the loss. Hopefully they get another shot at them in the playoffs. I don't see a meltdown coming this year.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yea but where do you rank them? I still think they are a top 10 team even after the loss. Hopefully they get another shot at them in the playoffs. I don't see a meltdown coming this year.




You can tell Pellini has brought a different mindset to YSU compared to Wolford. I would just scratch my head at some of Wolford's teams that came to the dome. Totally lay down and not give a decent effort.

So far they look like a top team for sure.

The Valley is such a grind that teams need to bring their A game every week. Although it looks like USD and MSU are teams that have plenty of work to do.

[REALBird]

I will say that the referees reviewed 12 plays on YSU and only 1 play on ISUr. Called a YSU DT for holding because he grabbed the RB coming between the tackle and guard. Didn't review a questionable TD by ISUr. Every big play YSU had was reviewed and it hurt the tempo of the game. That was by far the worst I've seen in 15 years. Just inexcusable.

I think the Penguins would love a rematch. YSU out gained ISUr and if it weren't for some bull**** calls, YSU would have taken them down. They are very beatable. Too many penalties and mistakes early in the game. Hopefully they will learn from it. Several penalties were just blatantly against YSU. I would be talking to the league office over the bulll**** I saw last night. Embarrassing that they are affiliated with our conference.

Yet somehow that missed XP, failed 2 pt conversion, pick 6 had nothing to do with the refs. I've seen some poorly officiated games by officials, but when you still have a chance to win you have to focus on what your team didn't do to execute, not just the officiating.

[penguinpower]

Yet somehow that missed XP, failed 2 pt conversion, pick 6 had nothing to do with the refs. I've seen some poorly officiated games by officials, but when you still have a chance to win you have to focus on what your team didn't do to execute, not just the officiating.


I don't disagree but when games are played even referees matter. YSU overcame self inflicted adversity and took the lead in the 4th quarter. When ISU scored the TD to retake the lead the TD was not reviewed. It didn't look like he was in and we held you guys out earlier in the game. Given the opportunity we could have had the chance to keep you out but no review, yet every ****ing play was reviewed when YSU had big plays. Remember. 1st and goal and you turned it over on downs?

[REALBird]

I don't disagree but when games are played even referees matter. YSU overcame self inflicted adversity and took the lead in the 4th quarter. When ISU scored the TD to retake the lead the TD was not reviewed. It didn't look like he was in and we held you guys out earlier in the game. Given the opportunity we could have had the chance to keep you out but no review, yet every ****ing play was reviewed when YSU had big plays. Remember. 1st and goal and you turned it over on downs?

I do think that should have been reviewed. Warrum looks like his hand touched OOB before the ball hit the pylon. But you're right we had 1st and Goal in the 1Q which led to a turnover on downs. Granted that eventually led to the pick 6. But this dynamic would have had us at 1st and G. With Roberson and Coprich in the backfield, not our RS FR QB Kolbe this time.

If's and Buts. End of the day, you guys played a good game. The difference came down to your QB and that knee coming down at the 2.

[Theee Catrabbit]

Has SDSU found their future QB in this freshman?

Yes. 99 yds rushing(a 50 yd rush td called back on a hold) 230 yards in the air, and he played cramping up the entire second half, pulled for at least two series. That should have been around 44-7, missed field goals, and TD everyone could see on the replay, but we don't have instant replay. I'm not complaining just saying how good he is as a freshman, his stats would have been Xbox-like.

[penguinpower]

I do think that should have been reviewed. Warrum looks like his hand touched OOB before the ball hit the pylon. But you're right we had 1st and Goal in the 1Q which led to a turnover on downs. Granted that eventually led to the pick 6. But this dynamic would have had us at 1st and G. With Roberson and Coprich in the backfield, not our RS FR QB Kolbe this time.

If's and Buts. End of the day, you guys played a good game. The difference came down to your QB and that knee coming down at the 2.


I agree. Frustrating loss.

[X-Factor]

Yes. 99 yds rushing(a 50 yd rush td called back on a hold) 230 yards in the air, and he played cramping up the entire second half, pulled for at least two series. That should have been around 44-7, missed field goals, and TD everyone could see on the replay, but we don't have instant replay. I'm not complaining just saying how good he is as a freshman, his stats would have been Xbox-like.
Once again, it completely matters what defense your going up against. ISUb obviously didn't have enough athletes out there. I watch 20 minutes of the game and your freshman did look good, but also wasn't getting pressured.

[PantherRob82]

I will say that the referees reviewed 12 plays on YSU and only 1 play on ISUr. Called a YSU DT for holding because he grabbed the RB coming between the tackle and guard. Didn't review a questionable TD by ISUr. Every big play YSU had was reviewed and it hurt the tempo of the game. That was by far the worst I've seen in 15 years. Just inexcusable.

I think the Penguins would love a rematch. YSU out gained ISUr and if it weren't for some bull**** calls, YSU would have taken them down. They are very beatable. Too many penalties and mistakes early in the game. Hopefully they will learn from it. Several penalties were just blatantly against YSU. I would be talking to the league office over the bulll**** I saw last night. Embarrassing that they are affiliated with our conference.

Stop, we're drowning in your tears.

[gregatim]

Most people think I'm crazy if they've never tried them but if you find a Pizza Hut that isn't conglomerated with that awful Wing Street chain they have THE BEST hot wings. Seriously it even blows places that specialize in wings out of the water. The wings are pre-cooked and then sauced/seasoned. Then they run them through the oven so the sauce/seasoning bakes in and the wings aren't all slimy like they are at most places. You may think I'm crazy but I've converted more than a few disbelievers before my local Pizza Hut was ruined by associating themselves with Wing Street. Not much reason to order from after that.

when I go to BWW, I order the sauce on the side to avoid soggy wings.

[penguinpower]

Stop, we're drowning in your tears.

Not sad about the loss. They got hosed by the refs all night and made too many mistakes to keep the decision in their own control. YSU outplayed them just lost in the points stats. YSU put up over 400 yards of offense and held the ball for nearly 6 more minutes. Also had more first downs and won the 3rd down conversion stats. The penalties killed them. I want to see a rematch.

[REALBird]

Not sad about the loss. They got hosed by the refs all night and made too many mistakes to keep the decision in their own control. YSU outplayed them just lost in the points stats. YSU put up over 400 yards of offense and held the ball for nearly 6 more minutes. Also had more first downs and won the 3rd down conversion stats. The penalties killed them. I want to see a rematch.

conversely I could ask how long was the drive where you gave up the 58 yd TD to Roberson? How long did it take to run back a pick 6? The 5 play drive where Roberson connected with Warrum took like a minute and change. TOP when you dominate an opponent means something. TOP in this instance means the Redbird OFF scored quick on several drives which gave you guys the ball back. Wouldn't read too much into that stat.

[Professor Chaos]

Yes. 99 yds rushing(a 50 yd rush td called back on a hold) 230 yards in the air, and he played cramping up the entire second half, pulled for at least two series. That should have been around 44-7, missed field goals, and TD everyone could see on the replay, but we don't have instant replay. I'm not complaining just saying how good he is as a freshman, his stats would have been Xbox-like.
He certainly seemed like a difference maker at QB that SDSU didn't have with Lujan. With how NDSU struggled with UNI's QBs running the ball I'm glad SDSU waited until this week to pull his redshirt :D

[Twentysix]

conversely I could ask how long was the drive where you gave up the 58 yd TD to Roberson? How long did it take to run back a pick 6? The 5 play drive where Roberson connected with Warrum took like a minute and change. TOP when you dominate an opponent means something. TOP in this instance means the Redbird OFF scored quick on several drives which gave you guys the ball back. Wouldn't read too much into that stat.

You are arguing football theory here. TOP means domination to some (including myself), and it doesn't mean much to others. Consistently scoring quickly is a recipe for defensive disaster :p

[Daved]

You can tell Pellini has brought a different mindset to YSU compared to Wolford. I would just scratch my head at some of Wolford's teams that came to the dome. Totally lay down and not give a decent effort.

So far they look like a top team for sure.

The Valley is such a grind that teams need to bring their A game every week. Although it looks like USD and MSU are teams that have plenty of work to do.I think you hit the nail on the head with every word you said.

[skinny_uncle]

conversely I could ask how long was the drive where you gave up the 58 yd TD to Roberson? How long did it take to run back a pick 6? The 5 play drive where Roberson connected with Warrum took like a minute and change. TOP when you dominate an opponent means something. TOP in this instance means the Redbird OFF scored quick on several drives which gave you guys the ball back. Wouldn't read too much into that stat.
Misery State won TOP against the Salukis but lost 73-26. TOP is definitely an overrated stat.

[Daved]

Misery State won TOP against the Salukis but lost 73-26. TOP is definitely an overrated stat.The only stat that really matters is the final score--it's the only one used for the standings.xtwocentsx

[PantherRob82]

The only stat that really matters is the final score--it's the only one used for the standings.xtwocentsx

They changed it.

Wins-Losses-# of replays-TOP

[penguinpower]

They changed it.

Wins-Losses-# of replays-TOP


My point with TOP was that the YSU offense controlled the game somewhat.

[penguinpower]

Game summary:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/matchup?gameId=400795732


Had difficulty containing Roberson and Coprich at the same time. Two headed monster.

[PantherRob82]

My point with TOP was that the YSU offense controlled the game somewhat.

That point is incorrect

[Penguin Nation]

I dunno. More TOP for YSU = less drives for Roberson and Coprich = less points for ISUr. The strategy would've worked (YSU won TOP, total offense, and first downs) except for the pick six... I'd say YSU controlled the game from that standpoint. It's safe to say ISUr was trying to force 3-and-outs and turnovers....but mostly failed.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Week #3 coming up in the Valley Meat grinder:


Ill State @ Missouri State

SIU @ Indiana State

USD @ NDSU

SDSU @ YSU

WIU @ UNI


Game of week for #3 has to be SDSU @ YSU. Couple of the top teams in the Valley wanting to stay there. SDSU beat Ind State and YSU had a tough finish to their Ill State game. YSU had a favorable Valley schedule this year with Ill State, SDSU, NDSU at home with no UNI. Can they rebound and get a win over a tough SDSU team?

SDSU fans: Is Lujan going to start or is the Fr QB staying in?

[BisonTru]

SDSU fans: Is Lujan going to start or is the Fr QB staying in?

After watching Taryn I think he's got to start moving forward. Question is when he struggles, which will happen at some point, does Stig stick with him or pull the cord?

[BisonTru]

My Power Rankings

North Dakota St = Fuddruckers

Illinois State = Casey's Breakfast Pizza

Northern Iowa = Pancheros

South Dakota St = Qdoba

Youngstown St = Pizza, never had a bad pizza

Western Ill = Red Lobster

Southern Ill = Five Guys

Indiana St = Texas Roadhouse

South Dakota = Perkins

Missouri St = Applebees

[PantherRob82]

My Power Rankings

North Dakota St = Fuddruckers

Illinois State = Casey's Breakfast Pizza

Northern Iowa = Pancheros

South Dakota St = Qdoba

Youngstown St = Pizza, never had a bad pizza

Western Ill = Red Lobster

Southern Ill = Five Guys

Indiana St = Texas Roadhouse

South Dakota = Perkins

Missouri St = Applebees

Red Lobster over Five Guys?
Perkins over Applebees?

[BisonTru]

Red Lobster over Five Guys?
Perkins over Applebees?

Applebee's should always be on the bottom.

[PantherRob82]

Applebee's should always be on the bottom.

You must have better Perkins experiences than I do, and I ever worked at one.

[NDSUSR]

My Power Rankings

North Dakota St = Fuddruckers

Illinois State = Casey's Breakfast Pizza

Northern Iowa = Pancheros

South Dakota St = Qdoba

Youngstown St = Pizza, never had a bad pizza

Western Ill = Red Lobster

Southern Ill = Five Guys

Indiana St = Texas Roadhouse

South Dakota = Perkins

Missouri St = Applebees

Romos > Fudruckers

[BisonTru]

You must have better Perkins experiences than I do, and I ever worked at one.

I really dislike Perkins, but Applebee's gets the cake.

[NDSUSR]

I really dislike Perkins, but Applebee's gets the cake.

Bohl agrees.

[BisonTru]

Romos > Fudruckers

Burgers>Tacos

[NDSUSR]

Burgers>Tacos

Tough call.... Circumstances dictate...

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

My point with TOP was that the YSU offense controlled the game somewhat.


TOP can be deceiving: Bison had almost 2/1 advantage over UNI but game was close as heck.

[PantherRob82]

I really dislike Perkins, but Applebee's gets the cake.

My scientific Facebook poll is currently at Applebee's 3 - Perkins 1

[BisonTru]

My scientific Facebook poll is currently at Applebee's 3 - Perkins 1

At least Perkins is open 24 hrs. Their food is edible if your lit up.

[DoubleE]

Perkins is cheaper and doesnt server $8 beers (im looking at you with disgust applebees) and is open 24 hours

Applebees has 1/2 price apps

[PantherRob82]

At least Perkins is open 24 hrs. Their food is edible if your lit up.

My poll ended up near dead even. Applebees got one more vote.

[Bison56]

At least Perkins is open 24 hrs. Their food is edible if your lit up.

is there any other way to go to Perkins?

[DoubleE]

is there any other way to go to Perkins?

still better then eat n park or dennys

[PantherRob82]

still better then eat n park or dennys
I prefer Denny's.

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At least Perkins is open 24 hrs. Their food is edible if your lit up.

That explains the Perkins thing. It's when you're drunk.

[Twentysix]

still better then eat n park or dennys

We always went to Ihop.

[REALBird]

I dunno. More TOP for YSU = less drives for Roberson and Coprich = less points for ISUr. The strategy would've worked (YSU won TOP, total offense, and first downs) except for the pick six... I'd say YSU controlled the game from that standpoint. It's safe to say ISUr was trying to force 3-and-outs and turnovers....but mostly failed.

First half ISU 14 - YSU 9.
TOP
YSU 15:49
ILS 14:11
First half saw YSU with basically back to back OFF possessions after the pick 6.

Final Score ILS 31 YSU 29
YSU 34:04 for game
ILS 25:56 for game

Now let's examine those TOP stats closer. First half was pretty much a wash since YSU basically got back to back possessions after the pick 6. That accounted for the slim TOP margin first half.

While you did have more total yardage, most of that is due to our offense not really having to move the ball because of 7 YSU penalties for 90 yards. Many of those the 15 yard variety.

Your offense did get more First Downs. To me that was due to your offense sustaining longer drives, but dinking and dunking it downfield. Chewed up more clock, you ran more plays. You win! But many of those drives ended in FG's for YSU. We bent, but didn't break so your team took FG's. If you call that controlling the game. Meh. It's a hollow stat.

Of our 4 second half possessions we went FG, TD, TD, Run out the clock.
Your lone lead last 1:19 with the next drive going Coprich pass for 35. Roberson run for 10. Penalty. Incomplete. Warrum 39 yd TD. I think I counted at least 6-7 plays in the second half of 10+ yards or more from ISU on those 3 scoring possessions.

So so basically of the 60 minute game it's hard to say you dominated or controlled the game while playing from behind for all of 58:41.

The #1 DEF in the nation got zero sacks. Yeah, you won statistical categories, dare I say we were more efficient. We made the most out of fewer opportunities.

YSU played their butts off, they didn't quit. It was a valiant effort. But once again.
Missed PAT -1 pt.
Fake Punt
too many FG's
too many penalties
failed 2 pt conversion

[penguinpower]

That point is incorrect


Why? YSU controlled the second half of the game for the most part. Did you watch it?

[clenz]

**** talking football...


Stopped at Casey's to get gas, a Rockstar Lemonade and a Pinwheel Turkey Wrap (slightly over priced but pretty damn good) and noticed they are taking applications for delivery drivers now.


That can only mean one thing...

[Jackal]

**** talking football...


Stopped at Casey's to get gas, a Rockstar Lemonade and a Pinwheel Turkey Wrap (slightly over priced but pretty damn good) and noticed they are taking applications for delivery drivers now.


That can only mean one thing...
Job opportunity for a NDSU grad?

[Sycamore62]

Watching the Freshman QB for SDSU against ISUb he looked really good but even though he ran great, did he remind anyone else of someone who is about to take some huge hits that out in out of games. I realize we didn't do that but at this point in my life I'm watching games thinking of all the injuries that are about to happen like when OLine get rolled into ect. He just seems like he is running like he is playing OK high school players not worried about getting hit.

[gotts]

Job opportunity for a NDSU grad?

You spelled UND wrong.

[BisonTru]

Watching the Freshman QB for SDSU against ISUb he looked really good but even though he ran great, did he remind anyone else of someone who is about to take some huge hits that out in out of games. I realize we didn't do that but at this point in my life I'm watching games thinking of all the injuries that are about to happen like when OLine get rolled into ect. He just seems like he is running like he is playing OK high school players not worried about getting hit.

I guess I would call that pocket poise. I'd rather see that then a QB who looks scared to take a hit. I watched the game as well, and Taryn looks pretty good for a true freshman. He'll struggle at some point, maybe take some big hits, how he responds after that will tell us a lot more.

[Professor Chaos]

I'll be interested to see what Illinois St is going to do to Missouri St. The Bears have given up 262 points in 4 games against D1 competition this year (that's 65.6 ppg) and if Roberson is healthy ISUr may be the best offense they've seen so far. They might score 80.

[BisonTru]

I'll be interested to see what Illinois St is going to do to Missouri St. The Bears have given up 262 points in 4 games against D1 competition this year (that's 65.6 ppg) and if Roberson is healthy ISUr may be the best offense they've seen so far. They might score 80.

Wow. They are dead last in the country for scoring defense. They are second to last in total defense. Guess who's last in the category?

Hints: Big Sky team (big shocker there), Hideous turf

[IBleedYellow]

Guys... Maybe it's time we let MO State go to the Sun Belt instead of being a terrible showing for our conference.

[clenz]

Guys... Maybe it's time we let MO State go to the Sun Belt instead of being a terrible showing for our conference.
We have enough good teams.

Let's not screw with the one or two dead weight teams we have

[IBleedYellow]

We have enough good teams.

Let's not screw with the one or two dead weight teams we have
After thinking for 4 minutes... I agree.

Plus then people would want to add UND. Screw that.

[BisonFan02]

We have enough good teams.

Let's not screw with the one or two dead weight teams we have

That's what supposedly Drake and Dayton would be for. #MVFCbasketballschools

[BisonFan02]

After thinking for 4 minutes... I agree.

Plus then people would want to add UND. Screw that.

Take the homer hat off...they would be a good addition for the Summit...the cost is MVFC entrance (unless you can convince them football is a drain and they go PFL :D )

[underdawg]

I'll be interested to see what Illinois St is going to do to Missouri St. The Bears have given up 262 points in 4 games against D1 competition this year (that's 65.6 ppg) and if Roberson is healthy ISUr may be the BEST OFFENSE they've seen so far. They might score 80.

SIU is leading the league at nearly 43 ppg and get no respect

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Tried some Casey's bacon breakfast pizza this morning. MMMM.

[Bison56]

Tried some Casey's bacon breakfast pizza this morning. MMMM.

Was there too much bacon?

[BisonFan02]

Was there too much bacon?

My father apparently agrees that Casey's puts too much bacon on those breakfast pizzas....so there's that I guess. xlolx

[IBleedYellow]

Was there too much bacon?
How is that humanly possible?

IT'S BACON! THE ONLY WAY IT CAN GET BETTER IS MORE BACON...AND MAYBE BEER.

[clenz]

My father apparently agrees that Casey's puts too much bacon on those breakfast pizzas....so there's that I guess. xlolx
Smart man

[IBleedYellow]

My father apparently agrees that Casey's puts too much bacon on those breakfast pizzas....so there's that I guess. xlolx
POD.

Him and I will have to talk about this.

[Drblankstare]

Mods, can we please have the name of the thread changed to the MVFC 2015 THREAD, BROUGHT TO YOU BY CASEY's BREAKFAST PIZZA. NOW WITH MORE BACON!

xthumbsupx

[clenz]

Caseys slogan is "Famous for pizza"


Get it right

[Kemo]

Caseys slogan is "Famous for pizza"


Get it right

They used to be famous for unisex bathrooms, but almost every Casey's I've seen has got an upgrade over the last decade.

[Sycamore62]

Maybe a team in the conference should change their mascot to the Razorbacks or just the Wild Hogs for all the bacon references.

Ill get my 6yo daughter to do the logo, she's been real successful here in Charleston with the last one she did for EIU

[Thumper 76]

They used to be famous for unisex bathrooms, but almost every Casey's I've seen has got an upgrade over the last decade.

Oh there are still plenty that I find in my travels. George IA for instance.

[clenz]

Oh there are still plenty that I find in my travels. George IA for instance.
Hey...

You leave my home town out of this.

I grew up 1/2 block from that Casey's.

That place is a damn historical landmark.

[eiu1999]

Hey...

You leave my home town out of this.

I grew up 1/2 block from that Casey's.

That place is a damn historical landmark.

Does it have a plaque?

[Thumper 76]

Hey...

You leave my home town out of this.

I grew up 1/2 block from that Casey's.

That place is a damn historical landmark.

Holy **** you're from George? That's awesome.

[clenz]

Holy **** you're from George? That's awesome.
Grew up on Michigan Ave.

Not to give too much up about my life....but...


I grew up a half block west of that Casey's - half block from Casey's and a half block from Pizza Ranch. My sister lives there now.

My parents moved into my grandparents house after they both passed - can see the entire Casey's building from their patio.

It's why I know the "history" of USD and SDSU as well as I do. Everyone from G-LR between 01 and now has gone to either USF, SDSU, USD or Northwestern (in Orange City)

[Sycamore62]

My hometown is literally Casey

[Sycamore62]

Eagle River?!?!?!?!

(please someone tell me they get that reference)

[Drblankstare]

Im beginning to wonder if Clenz doesnt actually work for Casey's and is running the greatest guerrilla marketing campaign of all time. 7 years of set up on AGS, then Bam! spring the trapxlolx

[clenz]

Im beginning to wonder if Clenz doesnt actually work for Casey's and is running the greatest guerrilla marketing campaign of all time. 7 years of set up on AGS, then Bam! spring the trapxlolx
I don't...I wish.

Imagine the free pizza perks you'd get.

[Bison56]

I don't...I wish.

Imagine the free pizza perks you'd get.

You could get a breakfast pizza with less bacon!xlolx

[PantherRob82]

I don't...I wish.

Imagine the free pizza perks you'd get.

None. I worked there back in 2000. Could have changed I suppose. ;)

[PantherRob82]

You could get a breakfast pizza with less bacon!xlolx

You could totally make it with less bacon. xlolx

I don't think we did breakfast pizza when I worked there, but maybe I just never worked that shift. I remember having to close pizza and then open donuts (getting like 3 hours of sleep). That was brutal.

[BisonFan02]

POD.

Him and I will have to talk about this.

From the office of the POD:


Hey, they have too much bacon on their pizzas and this is coming from a guy that has eaten bacon on ice cream, bacon in his Caesars, I have stirred my martini’s with bacon. It is possible to have too much bacon, I know this sound weird but it is true.

Never doubt the POD..... xlolx

[BisonFan02]

Smart man

middle aged, self proclaimed genius.... xlolx :D

https://twitter.com/podknows

[IBleedYellow]

middle aged, self proclaimed genius.... xlolx :D

https://twitter.com/podknows
I forgot about that damn account.

[IBleedYellow]

Caseys pizza for lunch.

Suuuucckkkk itttt

[BisonFan02]

I forgot about that damn account.

I really need to get the login for it....could keep it more updated other than the Frisco trips that are on there.

[IBleedYellow]

Just yell at Joe... The keeper of keys.

[clenz]

Followed....

[eiu1999]

My hometown is literally Casey

Been there.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Just went to my second Casey's here in Lincoln. Again no pizza or warm food kitchen. This is getting annoying...

[Kemo]

Grew up on Michigan Ave.

Not to give too much up about my life....but...


I grew up a half block west of that Casey's - half block from Casey's and a half block from Pizza Ranch. My sister lives there now.

My parents moved into my grandparents house after they both passed - can see the entire Casey's building from their patio.

It's why I know the "history" of USD and SDSU as well as I do. Everyone from G-LR between 01 and now has gone to either USF, SDSU, USD or Northwestern (in Orange City)

I think you missed out when you chose not to go to Northwestern. Best party school in the region. xwhistlex

[clenz]

I think you missed out when you chose not to go to Northwestern. Best party school in the region. xwhistlex
They recruited me pretty hard for football. I played along and went to every recruiting trip to my school they took, so I could get out of class. The party scene at NWC was tough to pass up though.

I would guess there's a reason USF pulled every player out of Lyon county they wanted while they were still NAIA. It now looks as though they are all still going USF or moving down the road to Morningside.

[Kemo]

They recruited me pretty hard for football. I played along and went to every recruiting trip to my school they took, so I could get out of class. The party scene at NWC was tough to pass up though.

I would guess there's a reason USF pulled every player out of Lyon county they wanted while they were still NAIA. It now looks as though they are all still going USF or moving down the road to Morningside.

Any going to Dordt? Nothing says "college town" like Sioux Center, IA.

[clenz]

Any going to Dordt? Nothing says "college town" like Sioux Center, IA.
I forgot Dordt was a college until you mentioned them again....and Sioux Center was in my high schools conference.

[PantherRob82]

Just went to my second Casey's here in Lincoln. Again no pizza or warm food kitchen. This is getting annoying...

I had that issue when passing through. I really wanted some of those cheesy tater tot things.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I had that issue when passing through. I really wanted some of those cheesy tater tot things.

Oh those cheese filled spuds are amazing!

[goyotes]

Any going to Dordt? Nothing says "college town" like Sioux Center, IA.

Dordt, Dordt, last resort

[clenz]

Dordt, Dordt, last resort
The Coe of western Iowa.


"If you can't get in to college go to Coe. If you can't get into college go to Coe. If you can't get into college, but you still want look like it. If you can't get into college to go Coe."

[Thumper 76]

The old saying in WI was "when in doubt go to Stout, if you can't get in there go to Eau Claire"

[WTFCollegefootballfan]

Was there too much bacon?

No.

[penguinpower]

Anyone ever listen to this each week? Released every Tuesday night in game season. If you haven't you can thank me later.

http://www.valley-football.org/multimedia/audio/

[UNIFanSince1983]

The Coe of western Iowa.


"If you can't get in to college go to Coe. If you can't get into college go to Coe. If you can't get into college, but you still want look like it. If you can't get into college to go Coe."

Oddly enough I did get into other colleges, but went to Coe anyway for the first two years...

[IBleedYellow]

Went to get Caseys for breakfast.... Forgot how amazing this is. Omnomnomonomon

[clenz]

Oddly enough I did get into other colleges, but went to Coe anyway for the first two years...
Those who get into other colleges and still pick Coe generally end up leaving, as you did.

Coe:4 year schools::Hawkeye CC:every kind of school


Also...I went to Hawkeye. Went maybe 30% of the time. Graduated with a 3.98 and a presidential honor student

[BisonTru]

Anyone ever listen to this each week? Released every Tuesday night in game season. If you haven't you can thank me later.

http://www.valley-football.org/multimedia/audio/

I enjoy listening to Joe Glenn. He's enjoying life. If I win, great, if I lose, whatever. If they fire me, fine I'll retire, if not, I'll keep coaching.

Also, really glad to hear the USD player with the neck injury is up walking around.

[clenz]

I enjoy listening to Joe Glenn. He's enjoying life. If I win, great, if I lose, whatever. If they fire me, fine I'll retire, if not, I'll keep coaching.

It's why USD will always be bottom two in the conference...bottom of the league if not for MSU being historicaly bad at defense right now.

Since 1998 only 1 team has allowed 70+ in a game during conference play - 2007 Indiana State in the midst of their 33 straight loss streak (and 54 of 55 overall). That was to a Saluki team that finished the year 12-2 and in the semi-finals.

MSU did it last week. They play Illinois State this week and it may happen again. NDSU has the fire power to drop 70 on them. UNI is explosive enough to drop 70 but won't. SDSU could drop 70 on them. YSU could drop 70 on them.

SIU scored more past last week, 73, than MSU has scored in all 4 of their D1 games this season combined, 68.

MSU's D1 games have totaled a score of 262-68...or 66-17

[BisonTru]

It's why USD will always be bottom two in the conference...bottom of the league if not for MSU being historicaly bad at defense right now.

Since 1998 only 1 team has allowed 70+ in a game during conference play - 2007 Indiana State in the midst of their 33 straight loss streak (and 54 of 55 overall). That was to a Saluki team that finished the year 12-2 and in the semi-finals.

MSU did it last week. They play Illinois State this week and it may happen again. NDSU has the fire power to drop 70 on them. UNI is explosive enough to drop 70 but won't. SDSU could drop 70 on them. YSU could drop 70 on them.

SIU scored more past last week, 73, than MSU has scored in all 4 of their D1 games this season combined, 68.

MSU's D1 games have totaled a score of 262-68...or 66-17

I agree, USD isn't going to start beating UNI, the XDSUs on a regular basis until they make a coaching change. But there is no coach in the MVFC I'd rather have a beer with then Mr. Glenn.

And yes, MSU's defense looks horrible. Can we have two bottom feeders? The rest of the league would appreciate it.

[REALBird]

It's why USD will always be bottom two in the conference...bottom of the league if not for MSU being historicaly bad at defense right now.

Since 1998 only 1 team has allowed 70+ in a game during conference play - 2007 Indiana State in the midst of their 33 straight loss streak (and 54 of 55 overall). That was to a Saluki team that finished the year 12-2 and in the semi-finals.

MSU did it last week. They play Illinois State this week and it may happen again. NDSU has the fire power to drop 70 on them. UNI is explosive enough to drop 70 but won't. SDSU could drop 70 on them. YSU could drop 70 on them.

SIU scored more past last week, 73, than MSU has scored in all 4 of their D1 games this season combined, 68.

MSU's D1 games have totaled a score of 262-68...or 66-17

Nov. 12, 2005 at Illinois State
Laurent Robinson hauled in a school-record 14 catches for 292 yards and three touchdowns, while Luke Drone accounted for six touchdowns after he passed for 440 yards and five TDs, while rushing for another, in a 70-28 defeat of the Sycamores.

Almost happened again in 2007:
Oct. 13, 2007 at Illinois State
On Homecoming, a trio of running backs rushed for over 100 yards each for the first time in school history, as the Redbirds scored a total of 10 TDs in a 69-17 victory against the Sycamores. Rafael Rice (182), Geno Blow (122) and Cortes Rice (110) each eclipsed the century mark for ISU.

[clenz]

Nov. 12, 2005 at Illinois State
Laurent Robinson hauled in a school-record 14 catches for 292 yards and three touchdowns, while Luke Drone accounted for six touchdowns after he passed for 440 yards and five TDs, while rushing for another, in a 70-28 defeat of the Sycamores.

Almost happened again in 2007:
Oct. 13, 2007 at Illinois State
On Homecoming, a trio of running backs rushed for over 100 yards each for the first time in school history, as the Redbirds scored a total of 10 TDs in a 69-17 victory against the Sycamores. Rafael Rice (182), Geno Blow (122) and Cortes Rice (110) each eclipsed the century mark for ISU.
Well...I missed that one going through the Valley's archived stats.

Either way, MSU is going to exceed that number this season.

[UNIFanSince1983]

It's why USD will always be bottom two in the conference...bottom of the league if not for MSU being historicaly bad at defense right now.

Since 1998 only 1 team has allowed 70+ in a game during conference play - 2007 Indiana State in the midst of their 33 straight loss streak (and 54 of 55 overall). That was to a Saluki team that finished the year 12-2 and in the semi-finals.

MSU did it last week. They play Illinois State this week and it may happen again. NDSU has the fire power to drop 70 on them. UNI is explosive enough to drop 70 but won't. SDSU could drop 70 on them. YSU could drop 70 on them.

SIU scored more past last week, 73, than MSU has scored in all 4 of their D1 games this season combined, 68.

MSU's D1 games have totaled a score of 262-68...or 66-17

Depends on whether Mario left on good terms with Farley or not. If Mario left on bad terms I could see Farley really wanting to put it on him. More than likely though they are still friends and Farley won't want to embarrass them.

[ST_Lawson]

Closest we ever got was hanging 68 on SIU back in '99

[Professor Chaos]

Joe Glenn and Joe Moglia are my two favorite opposing FCS (for now) coaches and I can't think of anyone even close to those two in terms of likeability.

I'm pretty sure it was Joe Glenn and his comment about negative recruiting that drove Darrell from AGS last year... so we have that to thank him for as well.

[jacksfan29]

It's why USD will always be bottom two in the conference...bottom of the league if not for MSU being historicaly bad at defense right now.

Since 1998 only 1 team has allowed 70+ in a game during conference play - 2007 Indiana State in the midst of their 33 straight loss streak (and 54 of 55 overall). That was to a Saluki team that finished the year 12-2 and in the semi-finals.

MSU did it last week. They play Illinois State this week and it may happen again. NDSU has the fire power to drop 70 on them. UNI is explosive enough to drop 70 but won't. SDSU could drop 70 on them. YSU could drop 70 on them.

SIU scored more past last week, 73, than MSU has scored in all 4 of their D1 games this season combined, 68.

MSU's D1 games have totaled a score of 262-68...or 66-17

No way SDSU drops 70 on MSU. Once we hit 50 Stig will shut it down and take a knee on every play if he has to. Same with NDSU, I would absolutely be shocked if they put up 70 on anyone, their coaching staff won't allow it. I think YSU puts up 70, easily. Pelini won't care.

[clenz]

Closest we ever got was hanging 68 on SIU back in '99
There are plenty of games that game close - 50s or 60s - but teams pulling off stopped it from 70.

It shows you just how bad a defense is to give up 70, even when teams are down to playing everyone short of pulling redshirts.

SIU had 9 players get carries last week. Think about that. 9 different players got carries in an attempt to kill the clock, and they still scored 73

Memphis took a 28-0 first quarter lead just 10 minutes into the game over MSU and completely pulled off the reigns...still managed 63 points

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No way SDSU drops 70 on MSU. Once we hit 50 Stig will shut it down and take a knee on every play if he has to. Same with NDSU, I would absolutely be shocked if they put up 70 on anyone, their coaching staff won't allow it. I think YSU puts up 70, easily. Pelini won't care.
I don't know that it will be that easy. I've looked at every MSU game this year pretty closely. Every team they've played pulled the reigns off in the first quarter or early second. Still managed to put up at least 56.

I'm not saying they WILL. I'm saying there is a very, very, real chance it could happen to every single one of those teams with relative ease.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Joe Glenn and Joe Moglia are my two favorite opposing FCS (for now) coaches and I can't think of anyone even close to those two in terms of likeability.

I'm pretty sure it was Joe Glenn and his comment about negative recruiting that drove Darrell from AGS last year... so we have that to thank him for as well.



I agree with Coach Glenn's likeability but he needs to go at USD IMO.

[jacksfan29]

You have a point, unless you take a knee; how do you tell a freshman walk on who may never get another chance that he isn't going to be allowed to score.

I don't get how MSU got that bad, they used to suck but at least you knew you were going to get a game from them and they played defense. I recall a 3-0 MSU score against NDSU. Maybe their new head coach thinks they took up residence in the BSC where playing defense is optional.


There are plenty of games that game close - 50s or 60s - but teams pulling off stopped it from 70.

It shows you just how bad a defense is to give up 70, even when teams are down to playing everyone short of pulling redshirts.

SIU had 9 players get carries last week. Think about that. 9 different players got carries in an attempt to kill the clock, and they still scored 73

Memphis took a 28-0 first quarter lead just 10 minutes into the game over MSU and completely pulled off the reigns...still managed 63 points

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I don't know that it will be that easy. I've looked at every MSU game this year pretty closely. Every team they've played pulled the reigns off in the first quarter or early second. Still managed to put up at least 56.

I'm not saying they WILL. I'm saying there is a very, very, real chance it could happen to every single one of those teams with relative ease.

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I think he retires after this year. My guess is he announces sometime before the end of the season. Giving his team the motivation to play their best game of the year against... SDSU.


I agree with Coach Glenn's likeability but he needs to go at USD IMO.

[clenz]

I'll have to go check preseason notes on MSU, but I don't think they lost a *that* much.

I don't know if the coaching staff change is the issue, but something is very....very...wrong in Springfield.

[ysubigred]

No way SDSU drops 70 on MSU. Once we hit 50 Stig will shut it down and take a knee on every play if he has to. Same with NDSU, I would absolutely be shocked if they put up 70 on anyone, their coaching staff won't allow it. I think YSU puts up 70, easily. Pelini won't care.

All depends which YSU offense shows up, "IF" Bo's team could even put up 70 xeyebrowx

[Yote 53]

I agree with Coach Glenn's likeability but he needs to go at USD IMO.

Everybody likes Joe, but we all know this isn't working. I highly doubt Joe is back next year. I think he will retire and all the USD fans will legitimately be thankful to him for his service to his school.

[F'N Hawks]

Everybody likes Joe, but we all know this isn't working. I highly doubt Joe is back next year. I think he will retire and all the USD fans will legitimately be thankful to him for his service to his school.

I tried to say this same thing pre-season and was ripped apart by the MVFC jackals. Nobody disputes that Joe is a great guy and means well. He is just past his prime now and it shows - he seems tired. His prime was the mid 90's to mid 2000's.

[centennial]

No way SDSU drops 70 on MSU. Once we hit 50 Stig will shut it down and take a knee on every play if he has to. Same with NDSU, I would absolutely be shocked if they put up 70 on anyone, their coaching staff won't allow it. I think YSU puts up 70, easily. Pelini won't care.
We shut down at a 30 point lead. Our coaches won't run it up against anyone. We didn't against UND, Weber or SDSU. There isn't any way we do against Missouri State.

[Professor Chaos]

I'll have to go check preseason notes on MSU, but I don't think they lost a *that* much.

I don't know if the coaching staff change is the issue, but something is very....very...wrong in Springfield.
Well, they lost Caleb Shaffitzel (sp?) from their defense who was about the only memorable defensive player for them from my point of view. Offensively they lost Kierra Harris who I think was their leading rusher along with being the QB. Their best player is their Center Robert Booker. It just seems like they have so few difference makers and they lost the biggest one on each side of the ball from last year.... not a recipe for success.

[clenz]

Well, they lost Caleb Shaffitzel (sp?) from their defense who was about the only memorable defensive player for them from my point of view. Offensively they lost Kierra Harris who I think was their leading rusher along with being the QB. Their best player is their Center Robert Booker. It just seems like they have so few difference makers and they lost the biggest one on each side of the ball from last year.... not a recipe for success.
I knew about Harris ahd Shaffitzel (using your spelling). In terms of depth I don't think they lost a ton though. Running back Calan Crowder is a good talent. He set the MSU freshman rushing record last year.

I honestly don't know what to pin it on this year. Obviously there is a dearth of talent compared to the rest of the conference, but we knew that. I don't think anyone thought it was this big of a gap though.

[Pant8her]

I knew about Harris ahd Shaffitzel (using your spelling). In terms of depth I don't think they lost a ton though. Running back Calan Crowder is a good talent. He set the MSU freshman rushing record last year.

I honestly don't know what to pin it on this year. Obviously there is a dearth of talent compared to the rest of the conference, but we knew that. I don't think anyone thought it was this big of a gap though.

last season (2014) 4-8 [1-7]
FCS:Offense (yds-81, ps yds-96, rsh yds-45, ppg-89, yds pg 93, TDs-83, FGs-49)
FCS: defense(Yds-60, ps yds-48, rsh yds-78, ppg-55, yds pg-63, TDs-59, FGs-105)
Keys points: New coaching staff-although MVFC is somewhat familiar with the new OC (Verdusco-UNI)
Offensively: MSU lost 3-Starters: WR *Burton; TE *Sinclair; QB *Harris. MSU returns 13-Starters: WR *Stewart, *Holliman, *Christophel, *Hoover, *Chambers, * Johnson, *Earl; TE *Peter, *Darden; RB *Johnson, *Crowder; P *Sullens; K *Bonani

Defensively: MSU lost 4-starters : S *Schaffitzel, *Crutcher, *Cheaton; LB *Springer, *Beisel. MSU returns 9-starters: S *Edwards; LB *Cole, *Jones, *Hoffman; DE *Isbell, *Barnes, *Pryor; CB *Phillips, *Landers



I would have thought they might be ok with the youth, but also a totally new staff can make the difference.

[CappinHard]

NDSU lost to Montana by 3, beat Weber State by 27, and beat SDSU by 21.

Weber State beat Montana by 3 and lost to Southern Utah by 44.

SDSU beat Southern Utah by 45.

Throw the transitive property out the window. I know it doesn't always work when it comes to college football, but it's usually not this wrong.

[Twentysix]

NDSU lost to Montana by 3, beat Weber State by 27, and beat SDSU by 21.

Weber State beat Montana by 3 and lost to Southern Utah by 44.

SDSU beat Southern Utah by 45.

Throw the transitive property out the window. I know it doesn't always work when it comes to college football, but it's usually not this wrong.

Transitive property would totally work in football if two things about football were different.

1.) Football can no longer be rock paper scissors
2.) Football can no longer contain human error

In this new world, transitive property would be 100% accurate.

It's kind of funny how these two little things are basically the only reason football is even fun to watch.

[Bisonator]

NDSU lost to Montana by 3, beat Weber State by 27, and beat SDSU by 21.

Weber State beat Montana by 3 and lost to Southern Utah by 44.

SDSU beat Southern Utah by 45.

Throw the transitive property out the window. I know it doesn't always work when it comes to college football, but it's usually not this wrong.

Yes just looking at single games in a vacuum can't tell anything, but if you sit down and look at what transpired from one to another a pattern develops.

[birdsflyhigh]

Games are just a day away, so I'll throw out my MVFC week 3 picks. Went 5-0 last week and now 8-2 overall for the first two MVFC rounds. Here goes on #3 week:


NDSU Bison > USD

ISU Trees > SIU

UNI Panthers > WIU

YSU Penguins > SDSU

ISU Redbirds > MSU

So it looks to be a couple footstomps (but you never know) and three games that should be wild and crazy. Hopefully an injury free slate of Valley games. Should be quite a few eyes on the games with all the ESPN 3 coverage...COOL :)

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

My 2$ on the games this week:

UNI
YSU
Ill State
SIU
NDSU

[AmsterBison]

]Well, they lost Caleb Shaffitzel (sp?) from their defense who was about the only memorable defensive player for them from my point of view[/B]. Offensively they lost Kierra Harris who I think was their leading rusher along with being the QB. Their best player is their Center Robert Booker. It just seems like they have so few difference makers and they lost the biggest one on each side of the ball from last year.... not a recipe for success.

Not just your point of view. During his career, Caleb Schaffitzel had more TDs against NDSU than any of their offensive players.

[CappinHard]

Games are just a day away, so I'll throw out my MVFC week 3 picks. Went 5-0 last week and now 8-2 overall for the first two MVFC rounds. Here goes on #3 week:


NDSU Bison > USD

ISU Trees > SIU

UNI Panthers > WIU

YSU Penguins > SDSU

ISU Redbirds > MSU

So it looks to be a couple footstomps (but you never know) and three games that should be wild and crazy. Hopefully an injury free slate of Valley games. Should be quite a few eyes on the games with all the ESPN 3 coverage...COOL :)

I'm in the same boat going 5-0 last week and 8-2 overall. Here are my picks:

NDSU (landslide)
SIU (ISUb isn't very good)
UNI (UNI will be desperate)
SDSU (Christion is a difference maker)
ISU (landslide)

[jacksfan29]

NDSU over USD

SIU over ISUb

WIU over UNI (tough follow up game to NDSU)

SDSU over YSU (homer pick)

ISUr over MSU

[BisonTru]

My 2$ on the games this week:

UNI
YSU
Ill State
SIU
NDSU

I'm no high roller, so here's my 2 cents.

Easy wins:

NDSU
SIU
ISUr

Tough Calls:

SDSU w/Christian> YSU > SDSU w/Lujan
UNI w/Kollmorgan> WIU > UNI w/Bailey

Lujan's a good QB, and Bailey can be explosive with his legs. But, JMO, Christian and Kollmorgan give their team the best chance to win. I would use Bailey as a wild cat QB, send him in their and split Kollmorgan out wide. Run it 5 times throughout the game (4 runs, 1 pass).

[BisonTru]

The playoff picture:

Disclaimer: JMO, and my opinion changes frequently and is often wrong.

One Loss Teams - Things are looking really good.

NDSU - Should win: USD, ISUb, SIU, WIU, MSU Toss up: YSU

Things are looking up now that they got past two of their tougher opponents. Should win out, but another loss is very possible and probably sends them on the road for the Semis.

ISUr - Should win: MSU, WIU, ISUb, USD Toss ups: SIU, SDSU

Another team that has gotten through two of their tougher opponents. Still has to play SDSU and SIU both on the road, and both ISUb and WIU are far from gimmies. But they can easily drop two more games maybe three and still be in.

SDSU - Should win: MSU, USD, WIU Toss ups: YSU, UNI, ISUr

Took a loss by NDSU, but that's still their only loss of the season. They can possibly go .500 from here on out and still make it in. But with three toss ups and Western on the road sub .500 is a real possibility. And even going .500 and limping in, isn't going to excite many Jacks fans.

2 loss teams - Not great, not desperate either

YSU - Should win: MSU, ISUb Toss ups: SDSU, SIU, WIU, NDSU

Only a couple of losses on the season so far, but there are plenty of opportunities to add to that total. They should get past ISUb, I think, but they could easily slip as well. Minus MSU the rest of the schedule is tough, but they have breathing room.

WIU - Should win: USD Toss ups: SIU, UNI, ISUb, YSU Should lose: ISUr, NDSU, SDSU

Only a couple losses on the season so far, but I see three more and four toss up games. If they can win all the toss ups and/or knock off one of their tougher opponents they can make it in. Tough road.

ISUb - Toss ups: SIU, WIU Should lose: NDSU, ISUr, UNI, YSU

As you can see, I'm lower on the Sycamores than most, and maybe I'm dead wrong. I could easily see them going winless. But win all but two and they would definitely prove me wrong and certainly would deserve a place in the field.

3 loss teams - Gotta go 5-1, ouch

UNI - Should win: USD, ISUb, MSU Toss ups: WIU, SDSU, SIU

They can only lose one more game. But I think it's certainly possible. Going to need to win one of the next two and take care of SIU at the end of the season.

SIU - Should win: MSU, USD Toss ups: ISUb, YSU, UNI, ISUr Should lose: NDSU

Tough slate, but manageable. They are going to need to win all of their toss ups and I'd say they are the underdogs in almost all of those games.

USD - Toss up: MSU Should lose: NDSU, UNI, SIU, SDSU, ISUr

Yeah, they're out. Not technically, but, yeah you guys are playing spoilers from here on out.

4 loss teams - Out

MSU - Toss up: USD Should lose: ISUr, SDSU, YSU, UNI, NDSU

Now, the Bears are technically out. Like the coyotes, you're playing wreck someone's playoff chances. Toilet bowl in eight days. Who's the true bottom feeder? I'm taking the Yotes, MSU could end the season without a DI victory.

[ST_Lawson]

Tough Calls:
...
UNI w/Kollmorgan> WIU > UNI w/Bailey

Lujan's a good QB, and Bailey can be explosive with his legs. But, JMO, Christian and Kollmorgan give their team the best chance to win. I would use Bailey as a wild cat QB, send him in their and split Kollmorgan out wide. Run it 5 times throughout the game (4 runs, 1 pass).

Our defense is better this year than it has the past few years, but I think we'd have some serious trouble stopping something like that.

[gregatim]

I'm no high roller, so here's my 2 cents.

Easy wins:

NDSU
SIU
ISUr

Tough Calls:

SDSU w/Christian> YSU > SDSU w/Lujan
UNI w/Kollmorgan> WIU > UNI w/Bailey

Lujan's a good QB, and Bailey can be explosive with his legs. But, JMO, Christian and Kollmorgan give their team the best chance to win. I would use Bailey as a wild cat QB, send him in their and split Kollmorgan out wide. Run it 5 times throughout the game (4 runs, 1 pass).

I'd line Bailey up in the backfield as the tailback with Kollmorgen. He's their best running back. Plus throw in the threat to throw at anytime even when you hand off to him....

[UNIFanSince1983]

I'd line Bailey up in the backfield as the tailback with Kollmorgen. He's their best running back. Plus throw in the threat to throw at anytime even when you hand off to him....

Honestly, I have been saying this for a while. He is our best running back. May as well put him out there along with our best quarterback instead of trying to shoehorn him into a position he really doesn't fit at all.

But realistically Farley probably told him when he transferred that he wouldn't put him at any position but QB.

[centennial]

Honestly, I have been saying this for a while. He is our best running back. May as well put him out there along with our best quarterback instead of trying to shoehorn him into a position he really doesn't fit at all.

But realistically Farley probably told him when he transferred that he wouldn't put him at any position but QB.
Time to run wildcat and call him a QB, but use him like a RB.

[clenz]

Time to run wildcat and call him a QB, but use him like a RB.
It's what they've been doing.

[BisonTru]

Honestly, I have been saying this for a while. He is our best running back. May as well put him out there along with our best quarterback instead of trying to shoehorn him into a position he really doesn't fit at all.

But realistically Farley probably told him when he transferred that he wouldn't put him at any position but QB.

What's up with Huggins? I thought he was going to be the guy.

I'm really glad this guy is gone.

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[clenz]

What's up with Huggins? I thought he was going to be the guy.

I'm really glad this guy is gone.

http://prod-mr-user.storage.googleapis.com/assets/user_cardinals_acromartie31_bigmanpose_1445027778. 247727/400x286/cardinals_acromartie31_bigmanpose.gif?v=af27be6693 I don't know what Huggins is actually healed from the injuries that ended his career at Rutgers. He might be as healed as he's going to get, but I don't think that it's "that healed".

Rutgers coaches praised him for the type of coach on the sidelines he was. I think he's got the same role at UNI but a chance to see the field a bit more.

[centennial]

It's what they've been doing.
No shotgun, or under center at all?

[clenz]

No shotgun, or under center at all?
Bailey is under center <1% of the time.

[centennial]

Bailey is under center <1% of the time.
BTW I was looking at your recruiting for 2015, 2016. No QB's? Who goes after Bailey and Kollmorgen? I see you have Black, Shulte, and Dunne.

[REALBird]

Honestly, I have been saying this for a while. He is our best running back. May as well put him out there along with our best quarterback instead of trying to shoehorn him into a position he really doesn't fit at all.

But realistically Farley probably told him when he transferred that he wouldn't put him at any position but QB.

Interesting, what ratio of runs/pass does Farley call for Bailey when he's in the game? Whether it's Bailey running the ball on a designed carry, or handing it off to another RB.

[clenz]

Interesting, what ratio of runs/pass does Farley call for Bailey when he's in the game? Whether it's Bailey running the ball on a designed carry, or handing it off to another RB.
Bailey still has more passing attempts than running attempts

78 rushes 442 yards (5.7 ypc) 3 TD....that includes sack yardage taken out. He's about 560 on roughly 70 carries (~8 ypc) on other plays
43-79 586 yards 5 TD 4 INT

Many of his runs have been scrambles.

It's probably actually 100 passing 57 running on play calls for his 157 plays

[REALBird]

BTW I was looking at your recruiting for 2015, 2016. No QB's? Who goes after Bailey and Kollmorgen? I see you have Black, Shulte, and Dunne.

Wow.....noticed Dwayne Collins from Chicago (Phillips HS) is playing WR now. Is that permanent, or did the log jam at QB and UNI force a position change?

[UNIFanSince1983]

BTW I was looking at your recruiting for 2015, 2016. No QB's? Who goes after Bailey and Kollmorgen? I see you have Black, Shulte, and Dunne.

Dunne should be the guy after Bailey next year, but we will see. Actually Dunne probably should be the guy next year too, but I doubt he will get to see the field with Bailey being back.

[REALBird]

Bailey still has more passing attempts than running attempts

78 rushes 442 yards (5.7 ypc) 3 TD....that includes sack yardage taken out. He's about 560 on roughly 70 carries (~8 ypc) on other plays
43-79 586 yards 5 TD 4 INT

Many of his runs have been scrambles.

It's probably actually 100 passing 57 running on play calls for his 157 plays

Well he's no David Johnson, but from what I saw against UNI he has a motor once he's in the open field. Seems last year you guys were complaining about Farley and your OC not putting the ball in the bread basket of Johnson nearly enough. Is this a case of Deja Vu with Bailey? He looks every bit as dangerous as a runner as Roberson from what I saw. If teams think run first, whether it's him or another back, I'd like to think he'd see more 1/1 with the wideouts.

I know the kid wants to be a QB, but hell if you rack up W's being an athlete, I wouldn't care what you called me as long as it's winner.

How are your WR's? They seemed to have a case of the dropsies in Normal. Wasn't sure if that was just a bad, windy day.....or they are what they are.

[clenz]

Wow.....noticed Dwayne Collins from Chicago (Phillips HS) is playing WR now. Is that permanent, or did the log jam at QB and UNI force a position change?
I'm hoping it's a move to WR. He's just Bailey part 2. Great athlete that needs to see the field, just not as a QB.

There were 7 QB's on UNI's roster to start the season 2 have moved to WR but remain as emergency QBs - Demos and Collins

It's now at 5
Justin Black - JR
Reggie Schulte - SO
Eli Dunne - r-Fr
Aaron Bailey - JR
Sawyer Kollmoregen - SR

After this year it's
Justin Black - JR
Reggie Schulte - SO
Eli Dunne - r-Fr
Aaron Bailey - JR

Expect to see 2 or 3 QBs in this years class.

Dunne, if Davis is allowed to run his system, is EASILY the QB of the future. Anyone who has seen him in practice or the spring game has said the same thing. I'm hoping that Dunne gets the job in Spring ball and Bailey becomes a OW for a position. Dunne is why people don't like Bailey (or Farley right now).

The spring game was an absolute track meet by the offense with Dunne going 18 of 26 for 274 yards with no interceptions and 4 TDs. He lead his team to 6 TDs on 9 drives in that game.

BUT...Bailey came in this fall and Farley loves him some dual threat QBs and forcing them to run a spread power zone system. He also told Davis to slow the offense down and call more runs - effectively forcing last years offense onto this years team.

[clenz]

Well he's no David Johnson, but from what I saw against UNI he has a motor once he's in the open field. Seems last year you guys were complaining about Farley and your OC not putting the ball in the bread basket of Johnson nearly enough. Is this a case of Deja Vu with Bailey? He looks every bit as dangerous as a runner as Roberson from what I saw. If teams think run first, whether it's him or another back, I'd like to think he'd see more 1/1 with the wideouts.

I know the kid wants to be a QB, but hell if you rack up W's being an athlete, I wouldn't care what you called me as long as it's winner.

How are your WR's? They seemed to have a case of the dropsies in Normal. Wasn't sure if that was just a bad, windy day.....or they are what they are.
WR's have a lot of talent, but hands like Hot Hands in the movie Little Giants. Though Daurice Fountain will be the best WR in the Valley by his SR season.

The issue with Bailey behind center is the play calling. Bailey isn't made for the play calling of Joe Davis's play book. It's supposed to be fast, with quick routes and quick decisions. In stead is average pace with Bailey being forced to make 2 or 3 WR reads. He can't do that. His running instincts take over and routes don't get time to develop

[clenz]

Oh...

Dunne is 6'4 230lbs as well

[goyotes]

WR's have a lot of talent, but hands like Hot Hands in the movie Little Giants. Though Daurice Fountain will be the best WR in the Valley by his SR season.

The issue with Bailey behind center is the play calling. Bailey isn't made for the play calling of Joe Davis's play book. It's supposed to be fast, with quick routes and quick decisions. In stead is average pace with Bailey being forced to make 2 or 3 WR reads. He can't do that. His running instincts take over and routes don't get time to develop

Speaking of Little Giants, maybe this is the weekend Danny O'Shea gets the best of Kevin. Yotes pull off the "Annexation of Puerto Rico" on the last play of the game.

[JayJ79]

What's up with Huggins? I thought he was going to be the guy.

I'm really glad this guy is gone.

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those just don't seem like very DavidJohnson-esque actions (in the .gif)

[Professor Chaos]

those just don't seem like very DavidJohnson-esque actions (in the .gif)
All NFL players are supposed to act like Ray Lewis* according to the Madden games.

*On the field that is, not actually, you know, kill people off of it and stuff... allegedly.

[Sycamore62]

I thought they were installing replay in all the MVFC stadiums. I'm sure we were one of the last teams to want/get it but ive seen calls last week at SDSU and this week at ISUb that should have at least got a look and nothing? Anyone know?

[PantherRob82]

I thought they were installing replay in all the MVFC stadiums. I'm sure we were one of the last teams to want/get it but ive seen calls last week at SDSU and this week at ISUb that should have at least got a look and nothing? Anyone know?

There was quite a few at UNI today.

[Professor Chaos]

So NDSU beats SDSU 28-7, SDSU beats YSU 38-8, YSU beats USD 31-3, USD beats NDSU 24-21. Simple!

[Sycamore62]

9 bid league?
4?
3?

[PantherRob82]

3-4 spread between NDSU, SDSU, WIU, and ILSU. I don't see any other candidates. UNI and YSU have dug some big holes.

[cpacmel]

I thought they were installing replay in all the MVFC stadiums. I'm sure we were one of the last teams to want/get it but ive seen calls last week at SDSU and this week at ISUb that should have at least got a look and nothing? Anyone know?

Not sure if this has changed or not, but it's from last year:
http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/2014/05/01/first-pitch-instant-replay-way-missouri-valley/8550045/


According to Kern, there will be different degrees replay use this fall. That's because league replay provider DVSport allows schools to rent or buy equipment such as cameras and cabling to complement existing broadcast components. The schools – not the league – are responsible for the costs, Kern said. Prices greatly vary because not every school or venue has the same needs.
North Dakota State intends to purchase the necessary gear and use replay for all home games – conference and non-conference. Indiana State and South Dakota State won't rent or buy, the Sycamores for budgetary reasons and the Jackrabbits because they're set to open a new, replay-ready stadium in 2016. The other seven members plan to rent the capabilities for some portion of the season.

[Drblankstare]

I give up. I just ****ing give up. I embrace the darkness, and I will now vote solely from the advice of a magic 8 ball and the zoltar fortune teller machine from the movie Big. God bless and good luck

[Twentysix]

Not sure if this has changed or not, but it's from last year:
http://www.argusleader.com/story/sports/college/2014/05/01/first-pitch-instant-replay-way-missouri-valley/8550045/


That is disappointing. It shows the lack of commitment to spending any money on sports (read football). You can't even rent cameras?

[Sycamore62]

Guess not

[RabidRabbit]

I thought they were installing replay in all the MVFC stadiums. I'm sure we were one of the last teams to want/get it but ive seen calls last week at SDSU and this week at ISUb that should have at least got a look and nothing? Anyone know?

I believe that ISUb, and SDSU don't have it available yet. Not certain about USD either. YSU had, and used during the SDSU game. Pretty certain NDSU has. Mo St., not an issue this seasonxlolx

[UNIFanSince1983]

WIU is the real deal! They absolutely dominated us on both fronts.

[PantherRob82]

I believe that ISUb, and SDSU don't have it available yet. Not certain about USD either. YSU had, and used during the SDSU game. Pretty certain NDSU has. Mo St., not an issue this seasonxlolx

USD had replay in the YSU game

[CappinHard]

Speaking of Little Giants, maybe this is the weekend Danny O'Shea gets the best of Kevin. Yotes pull off the "Annexation of Puerto Rico" on the last play of the game.

Or... Just cash a game winning field goal on the last play of the game. xthumbsupx The Little Giants analogy turned out to be accurate. Love it. USD gets to change the name of a water tower or something now, right?

[CappinHard]

10/24 games, spreads, and my initial reaction fwiw

UNI @ SDSU -7.5 (Probably about right. I expect SDSU to win by 7-10 points. Could be more with the motivation of losing on the Statewide holiday last year.)
NDSU -11.5 @ Indiana St. (If Wentz' wrist is fine, this spread is way too low. The Bison will come into this game looking to make a statement, and they will make it against ISUb.)
W. Illinois @ Illinois St. -10.5 (This is a very intriguing game. If WIU can somehow pull it off, they will have the inside track for the conference title. Will be interesting to see if they step to the challenge.)
Missouri St. @ USD -14.5 (With how bad Mo. St. is, and after seeing USD knock of NDSU, I'm surprised this spread isn't bigger.)
YSU @ S. Illinois -2.5 (I think YSU should be favored in this one. Pelini will have them playing well next weekend, and they will take out SIU.)

[ST_Lawson]

I think part of the reason the MSU/USD isn't bigger is for a few reasons. Outside of the NDSU game, USD hadn't really been that great so far...I believe that USD lost their top RB for the season...and it's the MVFC, our worst is still only "middle of the pack" for most of the rest of the FCS. I still think USD will win by a decent margin, but I can see that spread being valid.

[dewey]

Here is an article form the Fargo Forum talking about Western Illinois versus Illinois State but also other MVFC news.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/3867051-western-yes-western-illinois-playing-sole-possession-missouri-valley-lead

Dewey

[UNIFanSince1983]

Here is an article form the Fargo Forum talking about Western Illinois versus Illinois State but also other MVFC news.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/3867051-western-yes-western-illinois-playing-sole-possession-missouri-valley-lead

Dewey

Crazy that Kollmorgen could be 5th all time in completions at UNI even though he hasn't gotten to play much the last two years. Although we do rarely have a QB that has played so much as a freshman and sophomore.

[clenz]

Crazy that Kollmorgen could be 5th all time in completions at UNI even though he hasn't gotten to play much the last two years. Although we do rarely have a QB that has played so much as a freshman and sophomore.
Concussions and a complete mismanagement of the qb situation cost Sawyer the chance to be one of the two best in UNI history and top 5 in conference.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Concussions and a complete mismanagement of the qb situation cost Sawyer the chance to be one of the two best in UNI history and top 5 in conference.

Yeah I am completely with you on that one. He could have been a great one, but injuries and incompetence by our HC about QBs cost him big time.

[goyotes]

For anyone looking for further Casey's Pizza commentary, I just noticed that the moderator has moved the Casey's Pizza thread to the AGS Lounge. Hopefully it will soon be moved back to the FCS discussion board.

[birdsflyhigh]

Just a day away from the halfway point of the MVFC season, and it's been a surprising ride so far. Think some of tomorrow's games will be ALOT closer than most think. Have went a pretty decent 10-5 on my first 3 weeks of Valley pick 'ems, so here goes on MVFC week #4:

UNI Panthers > SDSU......know that's a major dark horse, but it should be a whale of a game.

NDSU Bison > ISU-B.......honestly think the Trees have a shot in this one though.

USD Coyotes > MSU.......Yotes may finish with a losing record, but they're still vastly improved and MSU is MSU.

SIU Salukis > YSU.........SIU has been a mixed bag this season, but think the Dawgs take the Penguins down another peg.

ISU Redbirds > WIU.......Give WIU credit for the UNI roadie win, but ISU knows it's #1 in the MVFC at stake, and the Birds defend Hancock Stadium on homecoming.

Other than the USD/MSU game, all the other Valley tilts should be crazy good MVFC free-for-alls. Another wild weekend across the Valley....should we expect anything different? LOVE IT! :)

[jacksfan29]

UNI (2-4) 14 @ SDSU (5-1) 24 - SDSU on Hobo Day
NDSU (4-2) 31 @ Indiana St. (4-2) 17 - NDSU has something to prove, Stick is a very good QB
W. Illinois (4-2) 27 @ Illinois St. (5-1) 28 - best game of the weekend, have to go with the experienced home team
Missouri St. 17 (1-5) @ USD (3-3) 21 - USD wins but it will be closer than it should be
YSU (3-3) 21 @ S. Illinois (2-4) 31 - SIU gets the win at home

[Thumper 76]

For anyone looking for further Casey's Pizza commentary, I just noticed that the moderator has moved the Casey's Pizza thread to the AGS Lounge. Hopefully it will soon be moved back to the FCS discussion board.

What? I thought that's what this thread was for!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

SDSU
NDSU
Ill State
USD
SIU

[NDSUFREAK]

God awful fan turnout at Indiana State...holy ****

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Pretty sad crowd at the Indiana State/NDSU game.

Our local HS has a lot more fans than this....:(

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God awful fan turnout at Indiana State...holy ****


The stands have almost no one...

[NDSUFREAK]

Coach Wentz on the field

[IBleedYellow]

If they give it to the RB all day, we'll be okay.


However, if they give it to the QB, we're gunna hurt.

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Alright Stick, here we go.

[PantherRob82]

I started a gameday thread.

[dewey]

Here is the weekly MVFC from the Fargo Forum.

http://www.inforum.com/sports/3872069-youngstown-uni-must-win-situations-rest-regular-season

Dewey

[birdsflyhigh]

MVFC week #5 on tap and it's playoff run time for teams, so it'll be battle royale across the Valley. Four games left and 9 MVFC teams still have a shot at the playoffs.

Went 5-5 on the pick 'em last week, so it's 15-5 so far this MVFC season. Just a day away from tomorrow's games, so here goes on Valley pick 'ems week #5:

ISU Redbirds > ISU Sycamores.........Battle of the ISU's kicks off the day. Birds are tough to beat at beautiful Hancock 2.0 Stadium and could win by a couple TDs.

WIU Leathernecks > YSU Penguins....Necks are hitting their groove, and YSU is going in the opposite direction. WIU in a tight one.

UNI Panthers > USD Coyotes...........Two teams with backs against the wall, but Panthers are very tough at home, so going with UNI by 10.

SDSU Jackrabbits > MSU Bears........Should be a Jacks blowout as MSU is of course MSU. SDSU by 42 and a chance to move on up the MVFC ladder.

NDSU Bison > SIU Salukis...............Could be best game of the day as Salukis are in MUST-win mode and are defending home turf. Bison by a 3 spot.

It's been a very competitive Valley season (with MSU being the exception). All teams better come to play each and every week or prepare to be taken down a peg.
Still think a 6-5 MVFC team has a shot at sneaking into the FCS playoffs as the field gets considerably weaker outside the FCS top 10-15.

Lot's of great Valley games to watch on ESPN 3, so let the good times roll this Halloween. YES! :)

[Yote 53]

Indiana State (4-3, 2-2) at Illinois State (6-1, 4-0)
USD (4-3, 2-2) at UNI (3-4, 1-3)
Youngstown State (3-4, 1-3) at Western Illinois (4-3, 3-1)
SDSU (5-2, 2-2) at Missouri State (1-6, 0-4)
NDSU (5-2, 3-1) at So. Ill. (3-4, 2-2)

[BisonTru]

ISU
UNI
YSU
SDSU
NDSU

[REALBird]

Birds build nest in beautiful Sycamore tree and make it their new home by 14.
Panthers show Coyotes that cats are superior to Dogs and win going away + 17.
Leatherneck (Bulldog mascot) catches non-flying Penguin and feasts on them by 7. No more Happy Feet sequels.
Bunnies out run the Bears and force them into a deep hibernation, hungry and without the fat reserves they desperately need. Jacks by 4 TDs.
Egyptian Dawgs outrun lumbering Bison in a shootout. Bison didn't see the "Beware of Dawg" sign and lose by 3 on the road.

[jacksfan29]

Indiana State at Illinois State - ISUr. ISUb could make it interesting, but ISUr pulls away after half
USD at UNI - UNI Staying Alive (yes that is a reference to the Disco era)
Youngstown State at Western Illinois - WIU by 2 TDs, Bo begins looking at open FBS jobs
SDSU at Missouri State - QB controversy carries over to ISUr
NDSU at So. Ill. - just because xthumbsupx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Ind State
UNI
WIU
SDSU
NDSU

[Houndawg]

Every game SIU has played except MSU has been decided on the last possession. Imo the only advantage SIU has is that their playoff started last week.

[skinny_uncle]

Every game SIU has played except MSU has been decided on the last possession. Imo the only advantage SIU has is that their playoff started last week.

You forgot the Liberty game that the Dawgs won by 3 TDS?

[Sycamore62]

Games are always determined after the last possession

[clenz]

Anyone reading the board last year, or the last 5, knows my thoughts on former OC/QBC Mario Verduzco. He's now the OC at Misery State. They seemed to think they were getting a steal/offensive genius when UNI let him leave for MSU...well...I found this on their board from the last week or so


Verduzco may be highly intelligent but offensive scheming and coaching players up seems to have eluded him.

Hate to kick a bear while it's down...but...told you so

[Sycamore62]

Anyone reading the board last year, or the last 5, knows my thoughts on former OC/QBC Mario Verduzco. He's now the OC at Misery State. They seemed to think they were getting a steal/offensive genius when UNI let him leave for MSU...well...I found this on their board from the last week or so



Hate to kick a bear while it's down...but...told you so

maybe every other OC candidate wanted $2M/yr.