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tribe_pride
June 2nd, 2015, 01:48 PM
Four days after getting re-elected as head of FIFA, he resigns. Things about to get really interesting.

Who knows? USA World Cup '22?

IBleedYellow
June 2nd, 2015, 02:44 PM
If I was Qatar I'd be starting to get really worried right about now.

clenz
June 2nd, 2015, 02:46 PM
If I was Qatar I'd be starting to get really worried right about now.
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clenz
June 2nd, 2015, 03:02 PM
The world just found out that the US might not care about soccer, but we do care when you **** us over. We will **** your **** up when that happens. Soccer just happens to be the byproduct of this.

344Johnson
June 2nd, 2015, 03:56 PM
If I was Qatar I'd be starting to get really worried right about now.

I don't think they'll take it away from them. Wouldn't be fair to do that anyway.

gotts
June 2nd, 2015, 04:14 PM
I don't think they'll take it away from them. Wouldn't be fair to do that anyway.

So much LOL in this statement.

clenz
June 2nd, 2015, 04:17 PM
I don't think they'll take it away from them. Wouldn't be fair to do that anyway.
If the paper trail is there showing how they got it they will get it taken.

The only way they don't is someone takes the stance "All these people have already died and it won't be in vein". Then again, how many more will die if they continue letting it go like it is?

tribe_pride
June 2nd, 2015, 04:19 PM
I don't think they'll take it away from them. Wouldn't be fair to do that anyway.

Yeah, it's not like Qatar bribed anyone to be awarded the World Cup and not like an estimated 1,200+ migrant workers have already died building the stadiums and they are not even close to having built all the stadiums.

clenz
June 2nd, 2015, 04:23 PM
The thing with the US - and honestly Germany, England, Spain and a handful of others - it can host the World Cup tomorrow. Well, maybe not tomorrow, they have to get the pitch laid.

They can host the World Cup...today is 6/2, so carry the one....6/5

Not only could the US do it tomorrow, we have the existing stadiums to host 3 or 4 complete and different world cups all at once and not have to even think about blinking.

clenz
June 2nd, 2015, 04:29 PM
The reality is the World Cup should be on a rotation of a handful of countries. How that rotation is set is up for debate though.

US
Mexico
Brazil
Argentina
England/Wales/Ireland
France
Germany
Holland/Belgium
Italy
Japan/Korea
Australia
South Africa

344Johnson
June 2nd, 2015, 04:32 PM
The US had it last in the 90's right? Probably shouldn't get it again so soon.

344Johnson
June 2nd, 2015, 04:37 PM
Yeah, it's not like Qatar bribed anyone to be awarded the World Cup and not like an estimated 1,200+ migrant workers have already died building the stadiums and they are not even close to having built all the stadiums.

They have already started preparations. Let them have it. It will be cool to see how it does

clenz
June 2nd, 2015, 04:42 PM
The US had it last in the 90's right? Probably shouldn't get it again so soon.

US hosted in 1994

Mexico hosted twice in 16 years
Germany hosted twice in 32 years

It's time for another CONCACAF host site. The reality is the only CONCACAF countries with a realistic ability to host, safely, is:
Mexico - hosted twice
USA
Canada - likely isn't interested and wouldn't be taken serious and is hosting the w omens this year

After that you get into Guatemala, Costa Rica, Honduras, Nicaragua, and all of the small Central American and Caribbean countries. None of whom have the infrastructure to host, money to bid, or ability to get proper infrastructure. There also won't be another team from Central/South America to host for a while. We are going to see a long run of US, France, England (who truly deserve it the most honestly), and other "first world" nations. Brazil had a ton of issues that started to crack the lid on the disgusting nature of FIFA and the Russia/Qatar issues really blew it off.

It's going to be industrialized nations for a while.

If nothing changes by 2022 then 2026 will be between US/England, 2030 will be the other, 2034 will be Australia/France/Italy

Bank it

tribe_pride
June 2nd, 2015, 04:43 PM
They have already started preparations. Let them have it. It will be cool to see how it does

Cool is really the wrong word to use. Because it is so hot in Qatar, they recently decided to move the WC to November/December which is the middle of the season for the European (and South American?) leagues where most of the top players from the WC countries play. That made none of those leagues happy as they will lose top players for some games since the players will need to take off starting sometime in October likely to prepare for the World Cup.

The whole Qatar World Cup has been a debacle. And are you seriously ok with seeing thousands more die building stadiums? For the last 6 Olympics/world cups, "only" 80 people died (and 60 of those were in Sochi).

clenz
June 2nd, 2015, 04:49 PM
Cool is really the wrong word to use. Because it is so hot in Qatar, they recently decided to move the WC to November/December which is the middle of the season for the European (and South American?) leagues where most of the top players from the WC countries play. That made none of those leagues happy as they will lose top players for some games since the players will need to take off starting sometime in October likely to prepare for the World Cup.

The whole Qatar World Cup has been a debacle. And are you seriously ok with seeing thousands more die building stadiums? For the last 6 Olympics/world cups, "only" 80 people died (and 60 of those were in Sochi).
Expect UEFA to put up a dog fight like never before seen to get the WC out of Qatar.

Now that I think about it England is a logical 2022 host

Tottenham will have a brand new (about 4 years old) stadium in North London that will be about 60-70K. Wembly will host the final but then you have Old Trafford, Emirates, St. Jame's Stdaium of Light, Ethihad, Anfield, Villa Park, Stamford Bridge, Hillsborough all over 40k capacity. All (with the exception of a couple) a hundred to a hundred 30 years old with history like you wouldn't believe. All already more safe and as up to date as anything Qatar will build.

tribe_pride
June 2nd, 2015, 05:11 PM
Expect UEFA to put up a dog fight like never before seen to get the WC out of Qatar.

Now that I think about it England is a logical 2022 host

Tottenham will have a brand new (about 4 years old) stadium in North London that will be about 60-70K. Wembly will host the final but then you have Old Trafford, Emirates, St. Jame's Stdaium of Light, Ethihad, Anfield, Villa Park, Stamford Bridge, Hillsborough all over 40k capacity. All (with the exception of a couple) a hundred to a hundred 30 years old with history like you wouldn't believe. All already more safe and as up to date as anything Qatar will build.

Russia (UEFA) already has 2018 and UEFA hosted 1990, 1998 and 2006. Not sure the other confederations will be happy if UEFA gets it 5 times in 9 World Cups when CONCACAF has only had it 1 time, CONMEBOL 1 time, Africa 1 time, and Asia 1 time. Would think that US would be more likely since this would be a back to back which is not allowed.

TheRevSFA
June 2nd, 2015, 09:07 PM
Clenz add Spain and portugal (as a joint venture) to your list

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Also I'm glad to see the Blatter has been relieved

IBleedYellow
June 2nd, 2015, 10:42 PM
I really hope that we don't see Qatar getting the WC ever. The fact they have allowed so many deaths already is a staggeringly high number, and as someone who is really starting to enjoy watching soccer...pisses me off.

PAllen
June 3rd, 2015, 12:18 AM
The thing with the US - and honestly Germany, England, Spain and a handful of others - it can host the World Cup tomorrow. Well, maybe not tomorrow, they have to get the pitch laid.

They can host the World Cup...today is 6/2, so carry the one....6/5

Not only could the US do it tomorrow, we have the existing stadiums to host 3 or 4 complete and different world cups all at once and not have to even think about blinking.

This, although I wouldn't include Spain in the group above. It has long been the elephant in the room with this topic that the USA could host the World Cup on a month's notice and it would be the most well attended, most profitable WC ever.

344Johnson
June 3rd, 2015, 11:04 AM
Russia (UEFA) already has 2018 and UEFA hosted 1990, 1998 and 2006. Not sure the other confederations will be happy if UEFA gets it 5 times in 9 World Cups when CONCACAF has only had it 1 time, CONMEBOL 1 time, Africa 1 time, and Asia 1 time. Would think that US would be more likely since this would be a back to back which is not allowed.

Honestly, UEFA should almost always get it. The Europeans have the best venues, good transportation, relatively small countries so the travel can't be too bad.

If it comes to the US, that'll be cool. I'd love to go catch a Germany or England game.

tribe_pride
June 3rd, 2015, 12:32 PM
Honestly, UEFA should almost always get it. The Europeans have the best venues, good transportation, relatively small countries so the travel can't be too bad.

If it comes to the US, that'll be cool. I'd love to go catch a Germany or England game.

Too much of a home field advantage. There have been only 3 World Cups out of 20 that have not been won by a team from the hemisphere where the game was played. Brazil in 1958 (Sweden), Brazil in 2002 (Japan/Korea - so plenty far from all relevant countries), and Germany in 2014 (Brazil)

Gate83
June 3rd, 2015, 12:34 PM
From today's Washington Post, an interesting piece on the reporter who blew the whistle on Sepp & his gang... http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/03/how-a-curmudgeonly-old-reporter-exposed-the-fifa-scandal-that-toppled-sepp-blatter/

clenz
June 3rd, 2015, 12:34 PM
This, although I wouldn't include Spain in the group above. It has long been the elephant in the room with this topic that the USA could host the World Cup on a month's notice and it would be the most well attended, most profitable WC ever.
I added Spain/Portugal on the CS.com thread, don't know why I left them off here.

Lehigh Football Nation
June 3rd, 2015, 12:57 PM
Few people realize that MLS was established as a prerequisite for the US World Cup bid in 1994.

Though it predates the Blatter era, one wonders how uncomfortable it might be to investigate the finances of the league back then.

There's also this:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/out-of-the-darkness-how-mls-commissioner-don-garber-took-his-league-from-contraction-to-expansion/


Despite the prospective bump in attention in a World Cup year, the MLS executives were convinced that drastic action was needed, as the league tried to navigate the treacherous waters of the post-9/11 economy.

“Plan B was to start a company called Soccer United Marketing and buy the English-language World Cup rights, which we did,” remembers Garber. “Unfortunately, it also meant Phil Anschutz, Lamar Hunt, and his family would have to take over a number of club teams. We had to find a way to triple down and build a number of soccer stadiums. And that’s when Phil decided to build the Home Depot Center.”

bkrownd
June 3rd, 2015, 05:09 PM
Brazil in 2002 (Japan/Korea - so plenty far from all relevant countries)

Japan and South Korea were quite relevant that year. South Korea could have gone all the way.