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Lehigh Football Nation
March 30th, 2015, 12:37 PM
http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-2015-patsy-ratings-lafayettes-class.html

PATSY RATINGS With 4 To Go:

64 LAFAYETTE
58 HOLY CROSS
55 COLGATE*

* May be subject to update

RichH2
March 30th, 2015, 12:46 PM
Unlikely Pards will be pleased but a fair reading for Patsys.

Franks Tanks
March 30th, 2015, 01:51 PM
You missed 6 recruits

http://www.goleopards.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022315aab.html

Some of these may be walk-ons, but not sure all of them are. The WR from California in particular.

CFBfan
March 30th, 2015, 03:29 PM
http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-2015-patsy-ratings-lafayettes-class.html

PATSY RATINGS With 4 To Go:

64 LAFAYETTE
58 HOLY CROSS
55 COLGATE*

* May be subject to update


as a reference here is 2014:
The final standings for 2014:

1. LEHIGH 79
2. LAFAYETTE 77
3. COLGATE 76
3. HOLY CROSS 76
5. FORDHAM 63
6. GEORGETOWN 43
7. BUCKNELL 39

bison137
April 1st, 2015, 04:45 PM
as a reference here is 2014:
The final standings for 2014:

1. LEHIGH 79
2. LAFAYETTE 77
3. COLGATE 76
3. HOLY CROSS 76
5. FORDHAM 63
6. GEORGETOWN 43
7. BUCKNELL 39


Ironically that terrible Bucknell class produced 4 players who started as freshmen for the league's 2nd place team. Also produced the only freshman lineman to make All-PL.

Lehigh Football Nation
April 1st, 2015, 04:59 PM
Ironically that terrible Bucknell class produced 4 players who started as freshmen for the league's 2nd place team. Also produced the only freshman lineman to make All-PL.

Worthy of mention here. CJ Williams was not counted in that class because he was announced after signing day. Had the Committee tried harder to get other "announced" recruits - and Bucknell had tried harder to "announce" him, and others - Bucknell's class probably would have been better. How much, I do not know, but certainly not last.

CJ Williams has been talked about a lot behind closed doors with the Committee, in this context - how can you really get the right Patsy numbers without including these guys?

bison137
April 1st, 2015, 05:09 PM
Worthy of mention here. CJ Williams was not counted in that class because he was announced after signing day. Had the Committee tried harder to get other "announced" recruits - and Bucknell had tried harder to "announce" him, and others - Bucknell's class probably would have been better. How much, I do not know, but certainly not last.

CJ Williams has been talked about a lot behind closed doors with the Committee, in this context - how can you really get the right Patsy numbers without including these guys?


you are thinking of the wrong class. CJ is currently a rising junior. The four who earned starting roles were all part of the announced class last February.

Lehigh Football Nation
April 1st, 2015, 05:11 PM
you are thinking of the wrong class. CJ is currently a rising junior. The four who earned starting roles were all part of the announced class last February.

Ah, apologies.

bison137
April 6th, 2015, 08:20 PM
I'm curious how the points for "speed" are determined and what sort of times are typical for the PL recruiting classes. Looking at my database, these are the times shown on HUDL for Bucknell recruits:

Marcus Ademilola WR 4.52
Alan Butler WR 4.74
Cinjun Erskine QB 4.68
Omar Garcia RB 4.50
Joe Lauro FS 4.47
Drew Newcomb Safety 4.68
Rocco Ordille WR/KR 4.40 (unofficially had faster times)
Andrew Owers TE 4.55
Matt Robinson LB 4.68
Brice Sydnor CB 4.55
Fisayo Oluleye CB - fast track times but no published 40

Unfortunately a couple of the speed position players have no published times.


How typical would those sort of times be for the published times for the last few PL classes? I know a number of these times are out-of-date and would likely be faster if run now - but I'm sure that is true for every other school's class as well.

RichH2
April 6th, 2015, 10:14 PM
They're good times. Not much different than those of some other PL classes this year. Actual independent times are not too common at our level. Self reported times on hudl et al are more hopeful than real.

bison137
April 6th, 2015, 11:14 PM
They're good times. Not much different than those of some other PL classes this year. Actual independent times are not too common at our level. Self reported times on hudl et al are more hopeful than real.


Thanks. Ordille's 4.40 is legit btw, and he reportedly has had some faster times. He was the fastest junior in New Jersey in the 100 meters last spring - all groups, all districts - and as you know, NJ is a great track state.

Lehigh Football Nation
April 7th, 2015, 10:24 AM
The Committee does not accept Hudl times because there is no way to verify their accuracy. They have to show up on one of the Committee-approved scouting websites to qualify.

Tribe4SF
April 7th, 2015, 11:21 AM
The Committee does not accept Hudl times because there is no way to verify their accuracy. They have to show up on one of the Committee-approved scouting websites to qualify.

Even on recruiting websites the speed times are almost always self reported.

RichH2
April 7th, 2015, 01:37 PM
Best places,combines,HS track results,various colleg football camps.

carney2
April 8th, 2015, 10:15 AM
C'mon, guys, even LFN who is a mere Lehigh grad and therefore probably not gainfully employed, has only 24 hours in his average day. When you people kick in to make the Patsy ratings a paying gig maybe someone will have the time to look under every rock on planet earth to uncover speed times and other minutia. If it isn't reported on one of the "approved" recruiting sites it isn't included. That's the way it is and has always been. Suck it up and move on.