Davidson to host "college of faith" again

[catamount man]

https://www.facebook.com/collegeoffaithcharlottesaints 2015 schedule.

[NDSUKurt]

This is odd. They have the game listed on 8-29. That week there is only 1 FCS game, the ESPN televised game NDSU at Montana. They (NDSU & Montana) had to get a waiver from the NCAA to play the game 1 week earlier.

Something just doesn't seem right with the College of Faith @ Davidson date.

[Milktruck74]

Since they aren't an NCAA program, isn't it just a dressed out practice with a group of non-students? Does it officially count as a game?

[DFW HOYA]

This is odd. They have the game listed on 8-29. That week there is only 1 FCS game, the ESPN televised game NDSU at Montana. They (NDSU & Montana) had to get a waiver from the NCAA to play the game 1 week earlier.

Something just doesn't seem right with the College of Faith @ Davidson date.

The Davidson message board says they're not playing CoF that week, but are opening with The Citadel on 9/5.

And what's the school titled "Charlottesville" on 9/26? Another Faith franchise popping up?

[Libertine]

Charlottesville could mean the club team from Charlottesville, VA that's made up of students from UVa and the local community college. Columbus State and Williamson Tech are both club teams as well.

[Twentysix]

...maybe slightly stricter scheduling rules should be created...

[walliver]

...maybe slightly stricter scheduling rules should be created...

I doubt the NCAA gets involved for anti-trust reasons.

[downbythebeach]

A friend of mine is a coordinator for CoF in North Carolina. I think it is a pretty cool idea.....It is a "semi pro" team masquerading as a college team. Hell...we could make one on AGS. Call it Givens university (lol). But either way it is not a scam as everyone knows what they are getting into, it's not like they are getting federal money or anything and Davidson is probably only giving them a couple thousand in exchange for a much needed victory.

[OL FU]

It's the Mildcats. Who caresxdrunkyx

[OhioHen]

Hell...we could make one on AGS. Call it Givens university (lol).

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?167612-College-of-AGS-Fighting-Drunkies-quot-The-College-quot

[Model Citizen]

...Davidson is probably only giving them a couple thousand in exchange for a much needed victory.

That's a joke, right? Maybe 10-20 grand.

[Libertine]

I doubt the NCAA gets involved for anti-trust reasons.

I doubt the NCAA gets involved because there's no SEC-level money in it.

[clenz]

A friend of mine is a coordinator for CoF in North Carolina. I think it is a pretty cool idea.....It is a "semi pro" team masquerading as a college team. Hell...we could make one on AGS. Call it Givens university (lol). But either way it is not a scam as everyone knows what they are getting into, it's not like they are getting federal money or anything and Davidson is probably only giving them a couple thousand in exchange for a much needed victory.
The very definition of a scam.

The NCAA should absolutely step in on this bull****.

Easy fix...

NCAA sanctioned programs MUST PLAY ONLY OTHER NCAA sacntioned programs. D1 FBS programs may play FBS and FCS teams. FCS teams may play FBS and D2 programs. D2 programs can play FBS and D3 programs. D3 programs can play D3 and D2 prorgrams.

[Grizalltheway]

The very definition of a scam.

The NCAA should absolutely step in on this bull****.

Easy fix...

NCAA sanctioned programs MUST PLAY ONLY OTHER NCAA sacntioned programs. D1 FBS programs may play FBS and FCS teams. FCS teams may play FBS and D2 programs. D2 programs can play FBS and D3 programs. D3 programs can play D3 and D2 prorgrams.

Well I know EWU, for one, played NAIA UM-Western last season...

[hebmskebm]

Personal Opinion: Rank the order of sub-D1 schools you'd want your school to face by preference. My list would be:

1. D2
2. NAIA
3. D3
4. College of Faith types/Club Teams

[clenz]

Well I know EWU, for one, played NAIA UM-Western last season...
I'm against NAIA games as well.

[dgtw]

I'm against NAIA games as well.

Why is that? They are at least legitimate colleges, which seems to be the big issue with COF.


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[catamount man]

I am really surprised teams get to count victories over these CofF/ Uof F type "schools". D2 Brevard College went 1-10 last year. The only win? College of faith, 66-0.

[clenz]

Why is that? They are at least legitimate colleges, which seems to be the big issue with COF.


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[downbythebeach]

nvm

[Hood]

I'm actually surprised the NCAA hasn't looked more into COF.

[clenz]

I'm actually surprised the NCAA hasn't looked more into COF.
There's nothing the NCAA can do. CoF isn't using an NCAA name, logo, rules, etc...

[kdinva]

Add St. Francis to this "list";

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/news/news.aspx?id=808852


Sept. 5, Georgetown
Sept. 12, at Towson
Sept. 19, at Youngstown State
Sept. 26, University of Faith
Oct. 3, at East Tennessee State
Oct. 10, Wagner*
Oct. 24, at Bryant*
Oct. 31, Sacred Heart* (Homecoming)
Nov. 7, at Central Connecticut*
Nov. 14, Robert Morris*
Nov. 21, at Duquesne*

[PAllen]

So instead of travelling to Liberty, they're host a semi-pro team.

[DFW HOYA]

Sept. 5, Georgetown


Nothing against the Frankies, but is this the best Georgetown can schedule to open a season?

[Rest of PL] "Yes."[/rest of PL]

But seriously folks, how do you build fan interest in DC with an opener in Loretto, PA?

[PAllen]

Nothing against the Frankies, but is this the best Georgetown can schedule to open a season?

[Rest of PL] "Yes."[/rest of PL]

But seriously folks, how do you build fan interest in DC with an opener in Loretto, PA?

Well you could play the Mason club team. They're more of a D-I team than CoF.

[aceinthehole]

So instead of travelling to Liberty, they're host a semi-pro team.

They need a HOME game.

They are already playing at YSU, at Towson, at ETSU. Is Lehigh willing to agree to a home/home with the Red Flash?

[downbythebeach]

I know when I was a student at Mason they were playing D2 teams...they actually scheduled one of the SWAC teams and then the game feel through

[Model Citizen]

Sweet Briar is closing its doors, creating an opening on Davidson's 2016 schedule.

[bonarae]

Sweet Briar is closing its doors, creating an opening on Davidson's 2016 schedule.

xrolleyesx It's a women-exclusive college. Is Davidson planning to play ETSU anytime soon?

[Go Green]

Nothing against the Frankies, but is this the best Georgetown can schedule to open a season?



Are they any worse than Davidson or (early season) Howard?

[DFW HOYA]

Are they any worse than Davidson or (early season) Howard?

Yes. St. Francis has been dipping into the sub-Div. I market for a few years now, with games against Lincoln, Clarion, and last year's 80-0 win over "Virginia University of Lynchburg", a school with an undergraduate enrollment of 85.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_University_of_Lynchburg

[Libertine]

"Virginia University of Lynchburg", a school with an undergraduate enrollment of 85.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_University_of_Lynchburg

Those numbers are about ten years out of date. VU-L is an HBC that is well over a century old but which most people, even natives of Lynchburg, don't even know exists. They started facing some financial pressure several years ago when enrollment dipped to the number you cited so they started a football program at the D2 level in order to boost student numbers. It worked to that end and the school now has around 450 undergrad students. They're still under a great deal of financial pressure and, at some point, their football program moved out of D2 to something called the USCAA. I watched the VUL game at Gardner-Webb last year and, bless their hearts, the Dragons were...trying really hard. It's terrible football but they're pretty much singlehandedly keeping their school open.

[walliver]

Those numbers are about ten years out of date. VU-L is an HBC that is well over a century old but which most people, even natives of Lynchburg, don't even know exists. They started facing some financial pressure several years ago when enrollment dipped to the number you cited so they started a football program at the D2 level in order to boost student numbers. It worked to that end and the school now has around 450 undergrad students. They're still under a great deal of financial pressure and, at some point, their football program moved out of D2 to something called the USCAA. I watched the VUL game at Gardner-Webb last year and, bless their hearts, the Dragons were...trying really hard. It's terrible football but they're pretty much singlehandedly keeping their school open.


The USCAA is actually larger than I thought it would be: http://theuscaa.com/members/index
It includes such noted institutions as Pennsylvania State University Beaver.

VU-L isn't in the list, though.

[Libertine]

Apparently, VU-L didn't pay their USCAA membership dues after 2013. I have no idea what they are now.


Virginia University of Lynchburg’s request to rejoin the United States Collegiate Athletic Association was denied...VUL had been a member of the association until 2013, when, according to
school officials, it failed to pay membership fees. The USCAA will not explain the reason for the school’s dismissal.

http://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/vul-s-request-to-rejoin-uscaa-denied/article_04e61278-f1db-11e3-ac03-0017a43b2370.html

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Apparently, VU-L didn't pay their USCAA membership dues after 2013. I have no idea what they are now.



http://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/vul-s-request-to-rejoin-uscaa-denied/article_04e61278-f1db-11e3-ac03-0017a43b2370.html

They do have a 2015 football schedule with seven games on it.

http://www.vul.edu/index.php/athletics/football/football-schedule

Those seven games include one FCS school (Morgan State), several sub-D-I HBCUs, and "Elite Performance Sports Academy".

Incidentally, how sad is it that a school losses quasi-accreditation because it can't pay a fee?

[Pinnum]

They do have a 2015 football schedule with seven games on it.

http://www.vul.edu/index.php/athletics/football/football-schedule

Those seven games include one FCS school (Morgan State), several sub-D-I HBCUs, and "Elite Performance Sports Academy".

Incidentally, how sad is it that a school losses quasi-accreditation because it can't pay a fee?

The USCAA membership is more about scheduling, officials, and championships. There really is no reason for them to be a part of it if they aren't going to benefit from championships or scheduling. The same is true about the NCAA, NJCAA, and NAIA. Any school can schedule another school, which is why we have College of Faith games. I doubt they got any benefit out of being a USCAA member since they only sponsor two sports.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Understood Pinnum, but still, the USCAA wasn't too proud to not accept this school as a member:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_National_University

I don't disapprove of the mission at all, but c'mon. Florida National University?

[Pinnum]

Understood Pinnum, but still, the USCAA wasn't too proud to not accept this school as a member:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_National_University

I don't disapprove of the mission at all, but c'mon. Florida National University?

I don't know what you're trying to share. I skimmed over the wiki page but am ignorant to the school and didn't see anything that caught my eye. Could you elaborate?

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I don't know what you're trying to share. I skimmed over the wiki page but am ignorant to the school and didn't see anything that caught my eye. Could you elaborate?

Kinda like I decided to found an institution of higher learning, naming it "Harverd" and slapping together a football and men's basketball program.

[Pinnum]

Kinda like I decided to found an institution of higher learning, naming it "Harverd" and slapping together a football and men's basketball program.

I am not sure about that...

I mean, they have 5,000 students enrolled and they are hold a level III accreditation from the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Association which is the same accreditation held by Bethune-Cookman and Savannah State. Florida National University is nearly 30 years old which isn't too different than Florida International which is about 50 years old.

This wasn't a school created just to play sports like College of Faith; it is a real school.

[clenz]

I am not sure about that...

I mean, they have 5,000 students enrolled and they are hold a level III accreditation from the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Association which is the same accreditation held by Bethune-Cookman and Savannah State. Florida National University is nearly 30 years old which isn't too different than Florida International which is about 50 years old.

This wasn't a school created just to play sports like College of Faith; it is a real school.
Not exactly bragging points to use when talking high quality standards