Floyd Kerr Confirms meac leaving playoffs

[bluedog]

Listen here

http://hbcusports.com/2014/12/30/listen-morgan-state-ad-confirms-meacswac-bowl-game-will-be-played-in-2015/

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[NoDak 4 Ever]

The burning question....will anyone notice?

[WestCoastAggie]

The burning question....will anyone notice?

This game will bring in ratings that will rival the bayou Classic, which earns a higher ratings share than the FCS Champ. game.

But Meh...

[clenz]

The burning question....will anyone notice?
The real question is do we drop back to a 20 team field or not?

Ivy isn't likely to take a bid

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[DeltaDevil662]

Every bowl game on ESPN/ESPN2 last year drew at least 1.2 million viewers except one. So this game WILL have viewers.

ESPN is not paying each conference $1 million to put it on ESPNU.

[Catsfan90]

I like the idea of going back to a 20 bid field.

[AggieManiac704]

The burning question....will anyone notice?

around these parts....no

[hebmskebm]

Does that include potential at-large bids?

[number1]

The burning question....will anyone notice?
Obviously ESPN thinks so since they are pushing it.

[DeltaDevil662]

Obviously ESPN thinks so since they are pushing it.

xlolx xlolxxlolx............

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Does anyone fully realize that the amount of money each school is going to get is peanuts? One $100,000 check might cover seven football scholarships per year.

IMO the amount of money ESPN is talking about is shockingly low.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Does anyone fully realize that the amount of money each school is going to get is peanuts? One $100,000 check might cover seven football scholarships per year.

IMO the amount of money ESPN is talking about is shockingly low.

They get a paycheck and don't get embarrassed in the playoffs. To them it's a win/win

[WestCoastAggie]

around these parts....no

Aggies will notice next season.

[WestCoastAggie]

Does anyone fully realize that the amount of money each school is going to get is peanuts? One $100,000 check might cover seven football scholarships per year.

IMO the amount of money ESPN is talking about is shockingly low.

the Champs from each conference will get $700,000 from the game. I doubt NDSU is clearing that after they give their cuts to the NCAA.

The game can blossom into something lovely, if given the right amount of attention.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

the Champs from each conference will get $700,000 from the game. I doubt NDSU is clearing that after they give their cuts to the NCAA.

The game can blossom into something lovely, if given the right amount of attention.

You're right. I don't think they're getting that much for the game. It's definitely better.

[DFW HOYA]

The real question is do we drop back to a 20 team field or not?


As I understand it, the number of committed conferences would reduce the field back to 20 teams unless the Ivy joined or another conference added football.

[NY Crusader 2010]

Does that include potential at-large bids?

Yes, but going back to a 20-team field certainly reduces the MEAC chances of having one. Furthermore, it would probably make sense for the MEAC to have a championship game in early Dec. to make even more revenue.

I believe it is possible for the SWAC to send an at-large but in order for that to happen a non-divisional champ not named Grambling or Southern would have to be good enough to make the field. This never happens. Last SWAC in the playoffs was Jackson St in 1996 (lost in first round to W&M 45-6). Chances are MEAC playoff appearances will be very few and very far between going forward.

[centennial]

I am sure some schools aren't happy about this.

[WestCoastAggie]

I am sure some schools aren't happy about this.

Well these schools are just gonna have to get used to it or do a better job convincing conferences that never wanted us since their inception to make a move.

[citdog]

George Wallace and Strom Thurmond approve.

[centennial]

Well these schools are just gonna have to get used to it or do a better job convincing conferences that never wanted us since their inception to make a move.
Huh? Play good football and win in the playoffs and everyone will respect you. Either way, I wish the MEAC would stay and get better rather than running away.

[IBleedYellow]

I don't mean to sound racist when I say this...but for schools that are proud of their heritage and I've heard many times want to work on getting closer to modern society and athletic competition, why would you voluntarily seclude yourselves? It makes no sense. Even with the money that's coming in all that happens is a decrease in strength of schedule (perceived, realize) and less media presence. For those of you that say "but it's on ESPNU" tell me how many times you've went to a bar and seen plain old ESPNU on. When I go to places, we have to request the U to be put on, and even then it's only on the one screen I ask for. Rarely do you see businesses prefer to put ESPNU or even ESPN2 on instead of plain old ESPN.

It just seems completely opposite from what we've heard from these Universities in years past, and honestly, feels like a step backward.

[bluedog]

George Wallace and Strom Thurmond approve.

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[bluedog]

Does anyone fully realize that the amount of money each school is going to get is peanuts? One $100,000 check might cover seven football scholarships per year.

IMO the amount of money ESPN is talking about is shockingly low.

That's the guarantee, they also get revenue sharing.

What was your share for the playoffs last year?

I'm asking for a friend.

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[DeltaDevil662]

That's the guarantee they also get revenue sharing.

What was your share for the playoffs last year?

I'm asking for a friend.

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*crickets*

[WestCoastAggie]

Well tbh, many HBCU presidents feel this game is a great chance at generating positive revenue for the school, rather than having to spend money to host Playoff games.

And yes, Division 2 is a viable option but that would cut off those checks we get from March Madness. The payouts for the lower division basketball tournaments aren't as high.

[danefan]

If you can't win in the playoffs and have a chance to make some money, I say go for it.

I wouldn't want it for my school. We played in a meaningless postseason challenge game a few times. Doesn't do it for me.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

That's the guarantee, they also get revenue sharing.

What was your share for the playoffs last year?

I'm asking for a friend.

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We're not in the playoffs to cover the bills.

[clenz]

As I understand it, the number of committed conferences would reduce the field back to 20 teams unless the Ivy joined or another conference added football.

Why would it have too?

Is there something in the handbook that says less than 10 AQ's means a field no bigger than 20?

I'm for going back to 20, but I must be missing something if they "have" to go back to 20

[IBleedYellow]

We're not in the playoffs to cover the bills.

Honestly, is anyone? When you have to give 80% of your gate automatically when you host a game I am fairly certain it's a losing strategy if you're attempting to make your budget on 20% of your game.

[clenz]

Honestly, is anyone? When you have to give 80% of your gate automatically when you host a game I am fairly certain it's a losing strategy if you're attempting to make your budget on 20% of your game.

Apparently their schools don't make money off of other sports within the athletic department.

Some of us don't have that issue

[BisonFan02]

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[WileECoyote06]

Not happy about this. I think the payout is too low as well. I'd rather we reduce our number of scholarships if every conference school is that cash strapped.

[BluBengal07]

Not happy about this. I think the payout is too low as well. I'd rather we reduce our number of scholarships if every conference school is that cash strapped.

million for each team is pretty average for general bowl payout. but go on and reduce your scholarship though.

comparable:
Heart of Dallas Bowl - $1.2mil
(Illinois vs. Louisiana Tech)

Military Bowl - $1mil
(Cincinnati vs. Virgina Tech)

Independence Bowl - $1.1mil
(South Carolina vs. Miami)

Hawaii Bowl - $750k
(Fresno State vs. Rice)

Poinsettia Bowl - $612,500
(Navy vs. San Diego State)

St. Petersbury Bowl - $500k
(North Carolina State vs. UCF)

[NY Crusader 2010]

And yes, Division 2 is a viable option but that would cut off those checks we get from March Madness. The payouts for the lower division basketball tournaments aren't as high.

Not to mention the 5 million guarantee games HBCUs play in men's basketball every year against the P5. Has anyone seen Texas Southern's schedule this year?

[AmsterBison]

The burning question....will anyone notice?

Well, Jay Walker won't be pimping MEAC teams in the FCS selection show next year so he'll certainly notice - as will the repeat watchers of that show. Not sure how they'll fill that fifteen minutes. However, I may be underestimating Jay because I could certainly see him going this route, "It's too bad that Bethune-Cookman has opted out of the playoffs because I think they are the only team who would have had a chance to stop Vernon Adams from taking the national championship trophy. Allow me to explain in detail..." :)

[Bisonator]

Well, Jay Walker won't be pimping MEAC teams in the FCS selection show next year so he'll certainly notice - as will the repeat watchers of that show. Not sure how they'll fill that fifteen minutes. However, I may be underestimating Jay because I could certainly see him going this route, "It's too bad that Bethune-Cookman has opted out of the playoffs because I think they are the only team who would have had a chance to stop Vernon Adams from taking the national championship trophy. Allow me to explain in detail..." :)

Haha hopefully Jay goes with them to cover their lil bowl game.xlolx

[clenz]

As long as Jay leaves FCS coverage all together I'm good.

Keep him off the selection show.

Don't mention the SWAC/MEAC as FCS teams.

They want to be separate don't talk about them in the context of FCS.

I've had a rule about IVY and SWAC teams with my poll entry. The MEAC just got added

[bluedog]

The burning question....will anyone notice?

Hopefully they notice this much

Saturday, November 29
1]7.4 13.53M 7:45 PM Auburn/Alabama ESPN
2]4.9 8.23M 12:00 PM Michigan/Ohio State ABC
3]3.5 5.96M 3:30 PM Florida/FSU ESPN
4]3.1 5.16M 3:30 PM Mississippi St./Mississippi CBS
5]2.4 4.00M 3:30 PM Baylor/Texas Tech or Michigan St./Penn St. ABC
6]1.9 3.30M 8:00 PM Oregon/Oregon State ABC
7]1.3 2.02M 12:00 PM South Carolina/Clemson ESPN
8]1.3 2.00M 3:30 PM Notre Dame/USC FOX
9]0.7 1.03M 2:30 PM Grambling/Southern NBC
0.5 809K 12:00 PM Kentucky/Louisville ESPN2
0.4 781K 10:30 PM Washington/Washington St. FS1
0.4 678K 7:00 PM Pittsburgh/Miami ESPN2
0.3 427K 10:15 PM Utah State/Boise State ESPN2
0.2 489K 12:00 PM West Virginia/Iowa State FS1
0.2 390K 3:30 PM ABC reverse mirror ESPN2
0.2 274K 4:00 PM Kansas/Kansas State FS1
0.2 252K 12:00 PM Illinois/Northwestern ESPNU
0.1 198K 10:30 PM Nevada/UNLV ESPNU
0.1 178K 3:30 PM Rutgers/Maryland ESPNU
0.1 148K 7:00 PM Wake Forest/Duke ESPNU
0.1 75K 12:00 PM Cincinnati/Temple ESPNEWS
0.0 65K 4:00 PM UConn/Memphis ESPNEWS

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

[Bisonator]

Hopefully they notice this much

Saturday, November 29
1]7.4 13.53M 7:45 PM Auburn/Alabama ESPN
2]4.9 8.23M 12:00 PM Michigan/Ohio State ABC
3]3.5 5.96M 3:30 PM Florida/FSU ESPN
4]3.1 5.16M 3:30 PM Mississippi St./Mississippi CBS
5]2.4 4.00M 3:30 PM Baylor/Texas Tech or Michigan St./Penn St. ABC
6]1.9 3.30M 8:00 PM Oregon/Oregon State ABC
7]1.3 2.02M 12:00 PM South Carolina/Clemson ESPN
8]1.3 2.00M 3:30 PM Notre Dame/USC FOX
9]0.7 1.03M 2:30 PM Grambling/Southern NBC
0.5 809K 12:00 PM Kentucky/Louisville ESPN2
0.4 781K 10:30 PM Washington/Washington St. FS1
0.4 678K 7:00 PM Pittsburgh/Miami ESPN2
0.3 427K 10:15 PM Utah State/Boise State ESPN2
0.2 489K 12:00 PM West Virginia/Iowa State FS1
0.2 390K 3:30 PM ABC reverse mirror ESPN2
0.2 274K 4:00 PM Kansas/Kansas State FS1
0.2 252K 12:00 PM Illinois/Northwestern ESPNU
0.1 198K 10:30 PM Nevada/UNLV ESPNU
0.1 178K 3:30 PM Rutgers/Maryland ESPNU
0.1 148K 7:00 PM Wake Forest/Duke ESPNU
0.1 75K 12:00 PM Cincinnati/Temple ESPNEWS
0.0 65K 4:00 PM UConn/Memphis ESPNEWS

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

That's actually pretty pathetic for being on NBC.

[clenz]

That's actually pretty pathetic for being on NBC.

Prime time football slot on a national channel that is available in every single home in the nation - cable, satellite, antenna, etc...

Yeah...

[bluedog]

Does anyone fully realize that the amount of money each school is going to get is peanuts? One $100,000 check might cover seven football scholarships per year.

IMO the amount of money ESPN is talking about is shockingly low.

Clearly you aren't well informed of what FBS bowl games actually make.




Unlike the teams losing money in mid-tier bowls, Montana State actually made about $50,000 in each of the two rounds of the playoffs they hosted, their second-round game against Stony Brook and their quarterfinal game against Sam Houston State, thanks to the NCAA's support.


http://www.college-sports-journal.com/index.php/ncaa-division-i-sports/fcs-football/680-while-bowls-struggle-to-sell-out-fcs-championship-sells-out-in-days

[bluedog]

We're not in the playoffs to cover the bills.

That's what everybody says, that don't have to pay the bills.

Don't believe me, ask APP State and GaSO

[IBleedYellow]

One last comment. Is this a case of never winning so instead of improving, just saying "we're clearly too good for this, bye" sort of occasion? Because that's what it feels like.

[bluedog]

Not happy about this. I think the payout is too low as well. I'd rather we reduce our number of scholarships if every conference school is that cash strapped.

That's right, make the student athlete suffer to appease your ego.

xcoffeex

[IBleedYellow]

Note: I am not trying to badmouth the MEAC or the SWAC. I just think the FCS would BENEFIT from this NOT happening and both of these conferences actually trying to improve and get more competitive overall in the FCS.

[Lehigh'98]

This affects my football life very little. Going back to 20 teams would mean little chance of Patriot at large. If this is what the MEAC wants, I wish them all the luck. Not sure why anyone gets riled up over it

[ursus arctos horribilis]

If you can't win in the playoffs and have a chance to make some money, I say go for it.

I wouldn't want it for my school. We played in a meaningless postseason challenge game a few times. Doesn't do it for me.

This nails down exactly how I feel about it. MEAC has found it can't really compete well in the playoffs and is given a chance to make some coin...don't see why they wouldn't want to look at that. I'd just as soon they work on getting better and continue but I'm fine with it if they do not.

[Hammerhead]

I'm guessing the payout is the top line on the balance sheet. Oregon State lost $170,000 in their last bowl game. http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_state_beavers_hawaii_bo.html


million for each team is pretty average for general bowl payout. but go on and reduce your scholarship though.

comparable:
Heart of Dallas Bowl - $1.2mil
(Illinois vs. Louisiana Tech)

Military Bowl - $1mil
(Cincinnati vs. Virgina Tech)

Independence Bowl - $1.1mil
(South Carolina vs. Miami)

Hawaii Bowl - $750k
(Fresno State vs. Rice)

Poinsettia Bowl - $612,500
(Navy vs. San Diego State)

St. Petersbury Bowl - $500k
(North Carolina State vs. UCF)

[bluedog]

That's actually pretty pathetic for being on NBC.

Your statement is actually what's pathetic. xlmaox

NBC earned a 0.7 overnight for Saturday’s Grambling/Southern Bayou Classic, up 40% from last year (0.5) and even with 2012 (0.7). The game faced hefty competition from other college football games on ESPN, CBS, ABC and FOX, with those four networks combining for approximately an 11.2 overnight during the mid-afternoon window.


http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014...night-ratings/

[clenz]

Neilson estimates that 116 million homes in the US have at least one TV set.
Neilson estimates that each home has 2.93 tvs.

That means there are roughly 339,880,000 tv's in the united states.

NBC is available on every tv set (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

So...1 million out of that many potential sets, on prime time football slot on Saturday...is...average

[Sycamore62]

I'm guessing the payout is the top line on the balance sheet. Oregon State lost $170,000 in their last bowl game. http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/06/oregon_state_beavers_hawaii_bo.html

So Oregon St lost $170,000 but don't they share revenue with the whole conference from the bowls?

also, I think schools see bowls as a way to get their school's name out there to potential applicants. There are non monetary benefits that come from bowls.

I'd be stunned if the hysteria around this FBS playoff doesn't cause them to expand for the all mighty dollar because that's what everyone in college athletics is about in the end. (Except for the players, they want a free education)

[Bisonator]

Your statement is actually what's pathetic. xlmaox

NBC earned a 0.7 overnight for Saturday’s Grambling/Southern Bayou Classic, up 40% from last year (0.5) and even with 2012 (0.7). The game faced hefty competition from other college football games on ESPN, CBS, ABC and FOX, with those four networks combining for approximately an 11.2 overnight during the mid-afternoon window.


http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2014...night-ratings/

Hell I'm surprised 2 million old folks didn't fall asleep with the TV on NBC during that time! We are talking a major network here not some subscriber channel. A little over a million is like I said pathetic.

[3rd Coast Tiger]

Not to mention the 5 million guarantee games HBCUs play in men's basketball every year against the P5. Has anyone seen Texas Southern's schedule this year?

I've seen it.

[bluedog]

Hell I'm surprised 2 million old folks didn't fall asleep with the TV on NBC during that time! We are talking a major network here not some subscriber channel. A little over a million is like I said pathetic.

So what does that make the playoffs ratings?

I'm asking for a friend.

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[IBleedYellow]

So what does that make the playoffs ratings?

I'm asking for a friend.

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Ndsu and coastal pulled in 1.4 Million for quarterfinals...
Not a classic game, or even a bowl game.

1.4 million for QUARTERS.

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[bluedog]

Ndsu and coastal pulled in 1.4 Million for quarterfinals...
Not a classic game, or even a bowl game.

1.4 million for QUARTERS.

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Dude it's just semantics, tomato tomahto.

Where's the link to your source and what P5 games was it up against?

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[number1]

Neilson estimates that 116 million homes in the US have at least one TV set.
Neilson estimates that each home has 2.93 tvs.

That means there are roughly 339,880,000 tv's in the united states.

NBC is available on every tv set (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

So...1 million out of that many potential sets, on prime time football slot on Saturday...is...average

To say y'all don't care about the game, you sure are reaching hard to try and throw dirt on it. lol

Just accept that y'all are mad that the SWAC and MEAC have chosen to make a decision about what they feel is best for their programs and not what others feel they should be doing to get a pat on the head for participating. Labeling it as segregation or not wanting to compete is complete and utter BS. This is 100% about doing what is best for our programs, and it seems some of you can't accept that. I think I know why too........

[NoDak 4 Ever]

To say y'all don't care about the game, you sure are reaching hard to try and throw dirt on it. lol

Just accept that y'all are mad that the SWAC and MEAC have chosen to make a decision about what they feel is best for their programs and not what others feel they should be doing to get a pat on the head for participating. Labeling it as segregation or not wanting to compete is complete and utter BS. This is 100% about doing what is best for our programs, and it seems some of you can't accept that. I think I know why too........

Nobody's mad at the decsion. We're tired of hearing about it. 3 ****ing threads about ****ty football teams not playing in the playoffs? Who ****in cares?

To quote Macbeth:

"It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing."

[number1]

If you don't care, why make several posts in the thread? Why read the thread at all? I skip over every thread that doesn't interest me.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

If you don't care, why make several posts in the thread? Why read the thread at all? I skip over every thread that doesn't interest me.

Just giving you the attention you so desperately crave.

[bluedog]

If you don't care, why make several posts in the thread? Why read the thread at all? I skip over every thread that doesn't interest me.

*snicker*

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[WestCoastAggie]

According to the MEAC By-Laws and Constitution, Floyd Kerr and Morgan State should be fined for stepping out protocol, speaking on a issue when he is not a voted rep for A&T and the MEAC on issues that are not fully vetted and voted on. He had to know that a counter proposal would be sent to ESPN and voted on as an amendment for the game.

Also, if the new numbers of $100,000 to the participant of the MEAC and $15,000 to all other football members is a absolute joke, knowing the worth of Black College Football. A&T can and will make more money in the playoffs than off of that game.

[BisonBacker]

As long as Jay leaves FCS coverage all together I'm good.

Keep him off the selection show.

Don't mention the SWAC/MEAC as FCS teams.

They want to be separate don't talk about them in the context of FCS.

I've had a rule about IVY and SWAC teams with my poll entry. The MEAC just got added

I'll also be adopting this theory to my poll next year.

[dgtw]

Fans of the first team out from this years playoffs are excited because next year they will be the last team in.

[centennial]

According to the MEAC By-Laws and Constitution, Floyd Kerr and Morgan State should be fined for stepping out protocol, speaking on a issue when he is not a voted rep for A&T and the MEAC on issues that are not fully vetted and voted on. He had to know that a counter proposal would be sent to ESPN and voted on as an amendment for the game.

Also, if the new numbers of $100,000 to the participant of the MEAC and $15,000 to all other football members is a absolute joke, knowing the worth of Black College Football. A&T can and will make more money in the playoffs than off of that game.
If these numbers are real there is no reason to play this game.

[clenz]

If these numbers are real there is no reason to play this game.
UNI easily cleared that in a game on thanksgiving weekend

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[bluedog]

According to the MEAC By-Laws and Constitution, Floyd Kerr and Morgan State should be fined for stepping out protocol, speaking on a issue when he is not a voted rep for A&T and the MEAC on issues that are not fully vetted and voted on. He had to know that a counter proposal would be sent to ESPN and voted on as an amendment for the game.

Also, if the new numbers of $100,000 to the participant of the MEAC and $15,000 to all other football members is a absolute joke, knowing the worth of Black College Football. A&T can and will make more money in the playoffs than off of that game.

Still over here spewing gossip I see.

Haven't you figured out yet that they don't care?

But do tell us how A&T is going to make all this moneyin the playoffs.

I'm asking for a friend

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[IBleedYellow]

Dude it's just semantics, tomato tomahto.

Where's the link to your source and what P5 games was it up against?

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Here the link.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/12/16/saturday-cable-ratings-heisman-trophy-presentation-tops-night-best-christmas-party-ever-sex-sent-me-to-the-er-more/339732/

Scroll and look. It was actually 1.447 million.

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[bluedog]

Here the link.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/12/16/saturday-cable-ratings-heisman-trophy-presentation-tops-night-best-christmas-party-ever-sex-sent-me-to-the-er-more/339732/

Scroll and look. It was actually 1.447 million.

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Two things that is confusing.

1) Which one are you referring too

2) The article is dated Dec. 16, 2014

I have no idea what that is,
It looks more like cable network ratings for the entire day. This is the official NCAA Football TV ratings, and they haven't been updated as of yet.



http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

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[IBleedYellow]

NCAA Champs L at 12:00 for 1447 overall.

Which translates into 1,447,000 overall televisions tuned to that game in that time slot.

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[mvemjsunpx]

Why would it have too?

Is there something in the handbook that says less than 10 AQ's means a field no bigger than 20?

I'm for going back to 20, but I must be missing something if they "have" to go back to 20

I don't believe so. There are more at-larges than auto-bids now, so that obviously isn't an issue. I think there's a rule that prohibits having fewer at-larges than auto-bids, but nothing the other way around.

[bluedog]

NCAA Champs L at 12:00 for 1447 overall.

Which translates into 1,447,000 overall televisions tuned to that game in that time slot.

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Um that's impossible since the FCS championship game isn't until Jan. 10, 2015

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/iaa-playoffs.htm

[clenz]

Um that's impossible since the FCS championship game isn't until Jan. 10, 2015

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/stat/iaa-playoffs.htm
You're right...that's fir a regular playoff game

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[bluedog]

Whatever it is, clearly they measure their rating differently than the official NCAA TV Ratings. Because 0.4 on the official site is a far cry from 1,447,000 viewers.

In short the Bayou Classic would have drawn 3,380,000 viewers


Hopefully they notice this much

Saturday, November 29
1]7.4 13.53M 7:45 PM Auburn/Alabama ESPN
2]4.9 8.23M 12:00 PM Michigan/Ohio State ABC
3]3.5 5.96M 3:30 PM Florida/FSU ESPN
4]3.1 5.16M 3:30 PM Mississippi St./Mississippi CBS
5]2.4 4.00M 3:30 PM Baylor/Texas Tech or Michigan St./Penn St. ABC
6]1.9 3.30M 8:00 PM Oregon/Oregon State ABC
7]1.3 2.02M 12:00 PM South Carolina/Clemson ESPN
8]1.3 2.00M 3:30 PM Notre Dame/USC FOX
9]0.7 1.03M 2:30 PM Grambling/Southern NBC
0.5 809K 12:00 PM Kentucky/Louisville ESPN2
0.4 781K 10:30 PM Washington/Washington St. FS1
0.4 678K 7:00 PM Pittsburgh/Miami ESPN2
0.3 427K 10:15 PM Utah State/Boise State ESPN2
0.2 489K 12:00 PM West Virginia/Iowa State FS1
0.2 390K 3:30 PM ABC reverse mirror ESPN2
0.2 274K 4:00 PM Kansas/Kansas State FS1
0.2 252K 12:00 PM Illinois/Northwestern ESPNU
0.1 198K 10:30 PM Nevada/UNLV ESPNU
0.1 178K 3:30 PM Rutgers/Maryland ESPNU
0.1 148K 7:00 PM Wake Forest/Duke ESPNU
0.1 75K 12:00 PM Cincinnati/Temple ESPNEWS
0.0 65K 4:00 PM UConn/Memphis ESPNEWS

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/

[Herder]

To say y'all don't care about the game, you sure are reaching hard to try and throw dirt on it. lol

Just accept that y'all are mad that the SWAC and MEAC have chosen to make a decision about what they feel is best for their programs and not what others feel they should be doing to get a pat on the head for participating. Labeling it as segregation or not wanting to compete is complete and utter BS. This is 100% about doing what is best for our programs, and it seems some of you can't accept that. I think I know why too........


Not participating in the fcs playoffs serves to 1) separate you from real fcs football 2) hurt the on
Field product in the swac and now meac. I'm not sure what you are selling deserves to be called fcs. Bottom line is, participate and grow or separate and whither. You have chosen your fate.

[DSUrocks07]

Hey NEC and or America East, y'all looking for a new member? I know a couple guys in Dover and Princess Anne that might seriously consider it.

[IBleedYellow]

Blue dog, are you stupid or just illiterate? I said that was for the quarterfinal game, not the championship game.

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[PantherRob82]

Blue dog, are you stupid or just illiterate?
He's asking for a friend. ;)

[bluedog]

Blue dog, are you stupid or just illiterate? I said that was for the quarterfinal game, not the championship game.

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I'm know enough to know that it doesn't matter which game you claim it to be, everything being equal the Bayou Classic still would have drawn 3,380,000 under their system.

Maybe that little FACT escape you.

Now maybe you should figure out which one you are.

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[bluedog]

I even know enough to actually do some research.

These are Nielsen US TV universe estimates for the 2014-15 season which are being used effective immediately.

Nielsen TV ratings are merely percentages of whatever is being measured. Sometimes it gets confusing because so many different things are measured.

If you see a 2.2 national adults 18-49 rating, that doesn't mean 2.2 million adults 18-49 were watching, it means 2.2 percent of the 126,980,000 adults 18-49 in the United States (up ever-so-slightly from 126,960,000 last season) who live in a household with a television were watching based on the Nielsen estimates for the 2014-15 television season.

So a 2.2 adults 18-49 rating works out to be around 2.79 million adults 18-49.

Here are some of the ratings slices we frequently post data for and the total size of the populations being measured.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/09/02/what-is-a-tv-rating-and-who-is-it-dating-2014-15-edition/298788/


Some how I don't think that's 1.4 million viewers.

I'm just checking to make sure for a friend. I wouldn't want to give him any bad information.

[DSUrocks07]

DSU and UMES would be a great package deal to a new conference in the northeast

[JSUBison]

DSU and UMES would be a great package deal to a new conference in the northeast

I don't think anybody will be moving, but if you add NJIT so they finally have a home, steal Monmouth and maybe Rhode Island along with poaching a couple others, (Towson?) and now you are looking at the beginning of a conference with a close footprint and I'm guessing similar budgets and athletics.

[aceinthehole]

DSU and UMES would be a great package deal to a new conference in the northeast

I bet the NEC would welcome DSU. But UMES offers squat. I'd take Morgan State in a package deal for the NEC.

[DSUrocks07]

I bet the NEC would welcome DSU. But UMES offers squat. I'd take Morgan State in a package deal for the NEC.

Two time national championship in bowling, successful men's basketball program. They do bring some things to the table.

[clenz]

Does the NEC sponsor bowling?

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[caribbeanhen]

DSU and UMES would be a great package deal to a new conference in the northeast

UMES? are they bringing back Art Shell to start the program?

[DSUrocks07]

Does the NEC sponsor bowling?

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Yes.


The Northeast Conference has a total of 10 full members in 22 championship sports: baseball, men’s and women’s basketball, women’s bowling, men’s and women’s cross country, football, men’s and women’s golf, men’s and women’s indoor track & field, women’s lacrosse, men’s and women’s outdoor track & field, men’s and women’s soccer, softball, women’s swimming, men’s and women’s tennis, and women’s volleyball.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Conference

[DSUrocks07]

UMES? are they bringing back Art Shell to start the program?
Ironically, UMES readmittance into the MEAC in 1981 had the requirement that they restart their football program with the next five years.

However, a smaller conference footprint would make it more likely for them to bring the sport back.

[Go...gate]

But UMES offers squat.

Emerson Boozer, Art Shell and Johnny Sample are alumni. Their basketball team has been to the NIT. The Eastern Shore of Maryland is a very nice area.

They offer as much as any other school in the NEC.

[caribbeanhen]

Ironically, UMES readmittance into the MEAC in 1981 had the requirement that they restart their football program with the next five years.

However, a smaller conference footprint would make it more likely for them to bring the sport back.

I would like to see them bring it back...

[Dane96]

Two time national championship in bowling, successful men's basketball program. They do bring some things to the table.

UMES has never been to an NCAA tournament in basketball. In fact, they haven't been relevant since 1974...

[Dane96]

Emerson Boozer, Art Shell and Johnny Sample are alumni. Their basketball team has been to the NIT. The Eastern Shore of Maryland is a very nice area.

They offer as much as any other school in the NEC.

They have one of the best football histories out there, and bringing back the program would be a big plus. However, they've never garnered the support to do so. Hoops has not been relevant but for their sole NIT appearance in 1974. They are a historically meh basketball program for the last 30 years.

They have a sub $6 million dollar athletic budget, which is even smaller than NJIT by almost half...and NJIT is operating on a shoestring, without football, and with a ton of travel.

Let's not forget, it's also kind of a pain to get to that campus, IMHO.

That said, if the state of Maryland upped the ante for UMES, they have a really nice basketball facility...and could be very, very good.

[DSUrocks07]

They have one of the best football histories out there, and bringing back the program would be a big plus. However, they've never garnered the support to do so. Hoops has not been relevant but for their sole NIT appearance in 1974. They are a historically meh basketball program for the last 30 years.

They have a sub $6 million dollar athletic budget, which is even smaller than NJIT by almost half...and NJIT is operating on a shoestring, without football, and with a ton of travel.

Let's not forget, it's also kind of a pain to get to that campus, IMHO.

That said, if the state of Maryland upped the ante for UMES, they have a really nice basketball facility...and could be very, very good.


Which would be like pulling teeth because the University of Maryland system solely exists to prop up College Park.

Speaking of travel. The sad thing right now is that outside of DSU, every other MEAC opponent requires UMES to travel across the Chesapeake Bay to get too. They would do really well in a more regionally focused conference IMO.

[aceinthehole]

They have one of the best football histories out there, and bringing back the program would be a big plus. However, they've never garnered the support to do so. Hoops has not been relevant but for their sole NIT appearance in 1974. They are a historically meh basketball program for the last 30 years.

They have a sub $6 million dollar athletic budget, which is even smaller than NJIT by almost half...and NJIT is operating on a shoestring, without football, and with a ton of travel.

Let's not forget, it's also kind of a pain to get to that campus, IMHO.

That said, if the state of Maryland upped the ante for UMES, they have a really nice basketball facility...and could be very, very good.

Exactly Dane!

A history doesn't do the current NEC members any good. No way the lowly NEC would add UMES as they don't do anything to improve the conference today. Our bowling is doing fine with FDU and SHU.

Del. State and Morgan State both have an active football program and would fill in the geography between Mt. St. Marys and FDU. They have both made the NCAAs in hoops this decade and would fit in with other NEC budgets.

[number1]

Not participating in the fcs playoffs serves to 1) separate you from real fcs football 2) hurt the on
Field product in the swac and now meac. I'm not sure what you are selling deserves to be called fcs. Bottom line is, participate and grow or separate and whither. You have chosen your fate.
Clearly we haven't withered without participating in the playoffs.