View Full Version : Seats removed from NASCAR tracks
BigDGarciaFan
December 20th, 2014, 10:09 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2014-12-11/why-nascar-tracks-continue-removing-seats-and-how-it-could-impact-fans
heres what i think whats causing this. more fans are too hooked on the NCAA Tournament in March and April. some young NASCAR fans chose to go to the beaches during spring break. May and June: fans are hooked on the NBA and NHL playoffs (http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/#). July is about the baseball all-star game (http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/#) and NFL training (http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/#) camps. Sept through november are about NFL, college (http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/#) and the World Series.
meaning that the Daytona 500 (http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/#) is the more important NASCAR event. more important than the Chase and the All-Star race. and i agree with it. sorry to say.
TheRevSFA
December 20th, 2014, 10:43 PM
Eh I've never given a **** about nascar.
I did go to a race at texas motor speedway. It was cool. Just not my thing
Go Lehigh TU Owl
December 21st, 2014, 09:34 PM
The "boom" fans have basically left which means attendance has fallen to where it was in the mid 90's. Some of these tracks had no business having as many seats as they did. Dover and Michigan over 130k? I've been to both....
superman7515
December 21st, 2014, 11:12 PM
The "boom" fans have basically left which means attendance has fallen to where it was in the mid 90's. Some of these tracks had no business having as many seats as they did. Dover and Michigan over 130k? I've been to both....
Dover used to fill all 130k and could have filled another 50k if the people in the parking lots partying went inside. My grandfather owned & operated the ice plant that supplied Dover Downs and I worked there numerous times in the 90's. I was never a NASCAR fan, but the RV lots were fun as hell.
citdog
December 22nd, 2014, 02:18 AM
my neck has never been red enough for me to be a nascar fan.
FormerPokeCenter
December 22nd, 2014, 12:51 PM
Even my cat gets bored chasing the red dot when I only make it turn to the left....
Go Lehigh TU Owl
December 22nd, 2014, 07:13 PM
Dover used to fill all 130k and could have filled another 50k if the people in the parking lots partying went inside. My grandfather owned & operated the ice plant that supplied Dover Downs and I worked there numerous times in the 90's. I was never a NASCAR fan, but the RV lots were fun as hell.
I attended races at Dover every year from 1990-2010. Dover had about 65k seats in 1990. Dover was just starting to put seats in Turn one and Turn 4 at that time. By 1995 when the track was repaved with concrete the facility was basically encircled with seats. The interesting thing with Dover is they empty seats started showing earlier than most tracks. By 2005 or 2006 there was already noticeable pockets of empty seats. Especially in turns two and four.
I've also been going to Pocono since the late 1980's and still get to one race a year there. Might do both again in 2015 if I can swing it. Pocono expanded seating in the mid 90's and stopped by 2000 or so. As a whole, the facility has improved drastically over the years.
I've also been to Daytona in 2002, Michigan in 2003-04 and Martinsville in 2003. Since attending my first Busch race at now defunct Nazareth in 1987, I've seen about 90 Cup races and 20 so Nationwide events. Being there from the pre-boom to boom to fall has been interesting. The sport still greatly interests me...
Go Lehigh TU Owl
December 22nd, 2014, 07:16 PM
my neck has never been red enough for me to be a nascar fan.
I'm not a redneck nor is PA your typical "redneck" state yet auto racing is huge in this state. I still remember as a kid seeing Mario Andretti driving around his Lambo around North Bethlehem. Nazareth Speedway, Pocono and Willow Grove were all nearby and hosted major racing events.
WTFCollegefootballfan
December 23rd, 2014, 09:27 AM
I used to be a huge Nascar fan, but I became bored with it, and don't watch much anymore. I started watching races in the late 1970's, when you could only watch 2 or 3 races a year on tv. Bill France JR has ruined Nascar. Nascar has become more like WWE wrestling then racing. Fans see this and are leaving. I found there are better things to do on Sunday afternoons, like chilling on the deck.
BigDGarciaFan
December 23rd, 2014, 11:53 AM
im not that much into NASCAR races as i used to, but the Daytona 500, i will never ever miss. that i will always worship.
WTFCollegefootballfan
December 23rd, 2014, 11:29 PM
im not that much into NASCAR races as i used to, but the Daytona 500, i will never ever miss. that i will always worship.
I agree the Daytona 500 is a can't miss.
WTFCollegefootballfan
December 23rd, 2014, 11:31 PM
Bill France JR and company have ruined NASCAR.
Cocky
December 24th, 2014, 11:45 AM
Tried to white collar a redneck/blue collar sport. The white collars came to NASCAR to let loose for a weekend (Harley crowd). Talladega went from wild as hell to a camp out.
Cant take a huge cooler of beer in. Check your backpacks, Bubba ain't scare of no terrorist.
All cars are alike no matter who the manufacturer. Race cars off the showroom floor, just juiced up.
Racers mostly come from rich backgrounds. Never see them around town eating and hanging out at bars days before the race like the old days. Too afraid to speak for fear of losing sponsors.
If the wife's and girlfriends are going to hangout around the pits put them in bikinis.
DSUrocks07
December 27th, 2014, 10:12 AM
I attended races at Dover every year from 1990-2010. Dover had about 65k seats in 1990. Dover was just starting to put seats in Turn one and Turn 4 at that time. By 1995 when the track was repaved with concrete the facility was basically encircled with seats. The interesting thing with Dover is they empty seats started showing earlier than most tracks. By 2005 or 2006 there was already noticeable pockets of empty seats. Especially in turns two and four.
I've also been going to Pocono since the late 1980's and still get to one race a year there. Might do both again in 2015 if I can swing it. Pocono expanded seating in the mid 90's and stopped by 2000 or so. As a whole, the facility has improved drastically over the years.
I've also been to Daytona in 2002, Michigan in 2003-04 and Martinsville in 2003. Since attending my first Busch race at now defunct Nazareth in 1987, I've seen about 90 Cup races and 20 so Nationwide events. Being there from the pre-boom to boom to fall has been interesting. The sport still greatly interests me...
Dover spent too many years on adding seats instead of improving the facility itself. 25 years and it still looks like a 20,000 seat facility with 100,000 temporary bleachers around a race track.
Go Lehigh TU Owl
December 27th, 2014, 06:55 PM
Dover spent too many years on adding seats instead of improving the facility itself. 25 years and it still looks like a 20,000 seat facility with 100,000 temporary bleachers around a race track.
The facilities really never improved until 2004 or so when they built the monster and revamped the walking areas around the track.
Dover pre-US 1 was interesting. The parking lots on the east side of the track were basically encircled with sand dunes iirc. I still remember the old green horse stalls outside of turns 1 and 2 as well. When US-1 was finished (95-97'ish) the track exploded. Honestly, I liked Dover more when it was asphalt and they had allowed people in the infield. I remember when I first started going there was more of a southern influence but once US1 was completed people from PA, NJ, and NY came in droves. We always took Route 9 to avoid the mess on 13....
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