Round 2: Northern Iowa at Illinois State

[PantherRob82]

So.....

How did UNI do against Illinois State last weekend?

You beat us.

So now we're rivals?

[OSBF]

Very True, but its coming from a guy who doesn't even post on our own message board except to stir the pot. He's got a hair so far up his bung hole about Brock Spack that he can't even find a way to congratulate the team on their W, but he can come to the defense of UNI.

Coming from anyone else it might be just what the Doctor ordered to put a few Bird fans back in their place, but I think OSBF would have been just as happy if we had lost to continue his personal diatribe on all that is wrong with Brock Spack.

I'd much rather have a few fans put in their place by a guy who is in TOTAL support of the program, rather than a guy who has an axe to grind with the program.


We've got kids on campus that like to shoot guns at passing cars out of dorm windows and get into bar fights and beat up girls.

I'm not supporting the program because I find that troubling?

I'd suggest you spend a little more time with your spiritual advisor dude.

I suppose putting on blinders might be necessary to constitute "total" support?

My sense of right vs wrong just isn't wired that way.

Bad ppl are bad ppl, even if they can hit the 20ft jumper or cover the other teams best wide out in a cover zero scheme

Sorry that our ideas of integrity and morality don't mesh, but that doesn't by default make mine wrong

[DaBurds!!]

Whoa! Generalize much?

[REALBird]

We've got kids on campus that like to shoot guns at passing cars out of dorm windows and get into bar fights and beat up girls.

I'm not supporting the program because I find that troubling?

I'd suggest you spend a little more time with your spiritual advisor dude.

I suppose putting on blinders might be necessary to constitute "total" support?

My sense of right vs wrong just isn't wired that way.

Bad ppl are bad ppl, even if they can hit the 20ft jumper or cover the other teams best wide out in a cover zero scheme

Sorry that our ideas of integrity and morality don't mesh, but that doesn't by default make mine wrong

Our ideas of integrity and morality don't mesh, and while it doesn't make you wrong by default. I challenge you to go back and take a look at your "perfect" life and tell me if you're as good as you believe, or maybe if you've done some of the same stupid stuff these kids have done?

I don't care if you're Ray Rice or a kid who can hit a 20 foot jump shot, hitting women is wrong. But it's amazing how so many people can say "let the criminal justice system run it's course" and then still not be happy with the outcome. (You take that however you want, and apply it to any situation current in the media or sports).

If these KIDS lose their way, and go through the criminal system and are punished. Then I am not above additional punishment (which was given to them) in addition to the criminal justice system (probation, community service, etc,.) In the case of a kid like Shelby Harris who came in with baggage, he was also dismissed due to that same baggage. I believe in second chances, not third, fourth or fifth.

BTW....my spiritual well being is fine. Thank you, maybe you should try some to help you get over whatever it is you have with Spack and the program in general.

Matter of fact, change your avatar to something generic. You've proven my point. One incident you cite is on the football program, and another on the basketball program. Surely someone as "self righteous" as yourself couldn't possibly want to be associated with a school and program who allows lawless behavior and deviance. If nothing else, you've proven when you have an axe to grind you know how to come out of the woods. What's wrong, nobody listening on RBF.com so you need a new audience? Wow!

[Jrbird2]

Slow down there ricky ramjet

I've got a news flash for you, ISU isn't even a pimple on the ass of UNI nor NDSU

Respect is earned, NEVER an entitlement

Until such time as ISU has shelves full of Conf and/or national championship trophies just shut up

Come here with respect and humility, not shaking your little wang in the faces of these guys that have been here for years

We can scream rival all we want, but to explain it to you honestly, UNI and NDSU really don't care about ISU because we haven't earned anything yet

To be a rivalry both sides have to buy in, we are making headway, but it isn't at that level yet

Saturday was a tremendous leap forward for our program

We have ample opportunity to take more in the coming weeks

I made that post in reference to the arguing on the previous few pages in the thread. It was an observation not meant to show disrespect to either side. There was no 'wang-slinging' intended.

I see UNI as a rival because I barely even knew the MVFC was a thing before 2009. But since then I've been to nearly every ISU home game, and followed the team very closely. Quite frankly, some of the most exciting and heartbreaking games ISU has played in the last five years have been against UNI. That's my frame of reference. Most of the ISU students I know agree, though the older fans tell us to get more excited for the in-state rivals (which regionalization / their own memories of past games probably encourage them to do). Do the opinions of younger posters count for as much as folks that have been here since the site started? Probably not. But should they count for nothing! I hope not, or the site sure won't be encouraging new posters.

Rivalry seems to be a very sacred word with hardcore fans, in any sport really. Perhaps I shouldn't have used it, as everyone has a pre-concieved definition of what a rivalry is. I see the big games in recent memory (2009, 2011, 2014x2) and the sheer volume of fanbase-hate in this thread as characteristics of a rivalry. That's my opinion, it may not be yours. And that's ok!

[Redbird Fan 21]

We've got kids on campus that like to shoot guns at passing cars out of dorm windows and get into bar fights and beat up girls.

I'm not supporting the program because I find that troubling?

I'd suggest you spend a little more time with your spiritual advisor dude.

I suppose putting on blinders might be necessary to constitute "total" support?

My sense of right vs wrong just isn't wired that way.

Bad ppl are bad ppl, even if they can hit the 20ft jumper or cover the other teams best wide out in a cover zero scheme

Sorry that our ideas of integrity and morality don't mesh, but that doesn't by default make mine wrong

Good to see the old OSBF is back... now please go crawl back in the hole you have been in since last summer please and thank you :)

[Redbird Recon]

Win with dignity, fellas.

OSBF, STFU with all this 'bad people are bad people' crap. Ignoring Spack's pattern of success both on and off the field is ignorant. We're seeing teams under Coach Spack set new heights for a program that has underachieved for so many years. Wins are at their highest but so is team GPA.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

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[ISUMatt]

Go you Redbirds
On to battle
Fight for ISU...


ISUMatt

[birdsflyhigh]

Not surprising to see OSBF come over to AGS and post anti-ISU. OSBF is BIGTIME anti-Brock Spack, and is assuredly beside himself because the Redbirds are earning some national FCS rep during the Brock Spack era. He is by far one of the worst posters on Redbirdfan.com, but hey go ahead and toss in with the UNI posters who have run down the Redbirds throughout this season.

[BisonFan02]

Holy **** there are a lot more ISUr fans than I thought xlolx

[DaBurds!!]

Holy **** there are a lot more ISUr fans than I thought xlolx

There are more than you think. Most are basketball fans since there is some level of consistency there. It is hard to post about your team when there is no respect, no championships, and dissenters among us. I think the bulk of us hang around, reading posts for years without saying a word, and when we finally have something to be excited about, we find the courage to write something without fear of being ostracized for "sucking so bad".

[REALBird]

I think most fans who have winning teams or have a sustained history tend to post more. Making the playoffs in 1998, 1999, 2006, 2012, 2014 sure isn't a lot to brag about. I think if we made the playoffs more consistently, you'd see more football fans, but as stated "we're a basketball school/board" for most of our fans.

[Loyl2u]

Yep

They don't venture round the mvc forums except to brag about their recruiting classes… they then disappear once the lose half their OIC games

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As a long time lurker that registered recently to participate in some of the challenges, I appreciate Clenz's regular participation on this board and a lot of his great posts, but Bird fans don't control the "recruiting class evals" and most of us ISUr Fans have rightfully felt that while the Birds might have been underrated this season, you didn't hear many of us jumping on Boards to express this because we all felt the Redbirds still had a lot to prove on the field.

The fact of the matter is that this game once again showed that in the Valley, if you're not playing your best game, top to bottom, you can lose. Sorry to see the the "trees" got beat, but hoping that all MVC fans are now pulling for a true conference championship game and also congrats to UNI BB for breaking the top 25, looking forward to a great Valley Basketball season as well!

[Redbird Fan 21]

I have been a long-time lurker of this board. I have posted some but not much. There are only so many hours in the day to spend on the interwebs and I spend that time on RBF for the most part (message board wise anyway). There usually isnt too much ISU talk on here throughout the year so I don't come as much. Naturally, after our big win, I ventured back over here to see what the neutral parties had to say about the Birds.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Holy **** there are a lot more ISUr fans than I thought xlolx

They become relevant in the playoffs and they come out of the woodwork. It would happen with many other Valley teams I imagine.

[World]

good, I just wanted to hear it again that Illinois State beat UNI and knocked them out of the playoffs





You beat us.

So now we're rivals?

[Redbirdgrad]

They become relevant in the playoffs and they come out of the woodwork. It would happen with many other Valley teams I imagine.

No, we just choose not to run our mouth before the game is actually played on the field. One looks foolish that way, as several of your school's posters have in this very thread.

Let us know how the playoffs are treating you from your view from the couch this week though. We'll be continuing our journey... thanks.

[REALBird]

No, we just choose not to run our mouth before the game is actually played on the field. One looks foolish that way, as several of your school's posters have in this very thread.

Let us know how the playoffs are treating you from your view from the couch this week though. We'll be continuing our journey... thanks.

Act Like you've been there before, and you'll get there again!!!!!

I just made my return to the board this year after a long hiatus, hoping to stick around for a while.....Win or Lose. I hope some of you guys do as well, I'd hate to have to listen to all that ***** if we lose and you guys bail.

Some people made some bold predictions from UNI.....So what! WE Friggin' WON. It was ONE GAME, not the FCS Championship. Can we please move on, and win with a little dignity, congratulate UNI on their fine season and turn the page to EWU?

Karma is a *****!

[Redbirdgrad]

Act Like you've been there before, and you'll get there again!!!!!




This is a nice statement for the guys playing the game, but has nothing to do with posters on a message board.

UNI fans ran their mouth, got their butts kicked, and now want to change the focus from the game itself to some more macro-arguement. Sorry, not going to cut it with me. Yes, there are a ton of ISU fans who read boards like this, but infrequently comment and post. The reason you're seeing them come out now? That's due to the ridiculous comments coming out of our opponents mouth pre-game.

Sorry, but if you talk a big game and then proceed to get HANDLED, be ready to be called out on it.

[clenz]

Um...care to actually quote UNI fans on this forum running their mouth?

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[UNIFanSince1983]

No, we just choose not to run our mouth before the game is actually played on the field. One looks foolish that way, as several of your school's posters have in this very thread.

Let us know how the playoffs are treating you from your view from the couch this week though. We'll be continuing our journey... thanks.

This is funny. I said it would happen from every Valley school too. More UNI fans would be here if we were having the season ISUr is. I was not one of the posters making bold predictions, and I am not sure who you are talking about. I saw a few people predict UNI would win by quite a bit, but why is that so crazy? They thought our team was good, and we were a great team. Just not the better team on Saturday. I bet you thought your team was great and would have predicted a big win that day too.

I would love to cheer for you guys going forward, but you are making that awfully difficult. It is a shame there are so many dbags that wear ISUr clothing because you guys have a great team this year. You realize most of the UNI fans that were dismissive before the game are gone? They are like you and only show up when things are going well for the team.

[clenz]

This is funny. I said it would happen from every Valley school too. More UNI fans would be here if we were having the season ISUr is. I was not one of the posters making bold predictions, and I am not sure who you are talking about. I saw a few people predict UNI would win by quite a bit, but why is that so crazy? They thought our team was good, and we were a great team. Just not the better team on Saturday. I bet you thought your team was great and would have predicted a big win that day too.

I would love to cheer for you guys going forward, but you are making that awfully difficult. It is a shame there are so many dbags that wear ISUr clothing because you guys have a great team this year. You realize most of the UNI fans that were dismissive before the game are gone? They are like you and only show up when things are going well for the team.I would like to think he is an outlier...but I've been to many conference basketball tournaments in St Louis.

Illinois State fans (when they would show up...much like this thread it didn't happen often)...were always right there with Creighton for most annoying/rude fan bases.

What's funny is OSBF, who is apparently hated by ISUr fans, is BY FAR the best Redbird fan I've ever encountered.

Tailgated with him before football games, sat with him at football games, went to bars with him in Cedar Falls, went to bars with him in St Louis....always very generous and gracious.

[PantherRob82]

This is a nice statement for the guys playing the game, but has nothing to do with posters on a message board.

UNI fans ran their mouth, got their butts kicked, and now want to change the focus from the game itself to some more macro-arguement. Sorry, not going to cut it with me. Yes, there are a ton of ISU fans who read boards like this, but infrequently comment and post. The reason you're seeing them come out now? That's due to the ridiculous comments coming out of our opponents mouth pre-game.

Sorry, but if you talk a big game and then proceed to get HANDLED, be ready to be called out on it.
Making predictions is not the same as "running their mouths".

[Professor Chaos]

Holy **** there are a lot more ISUr fans than I thought xlolx
Decembrists???

[ISUMatt]

CHAD good to see you again, hope all is well!!


ISUMatt

[clenz]

CHAD good to see you again, hope all is well!!


ISUMatt
Matt, same to you. Any mvc plans for you?

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[NoDak 4 Ever]

Decembrists???

+1 for first Decembrist reference of 2014

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Go you Redbirds
On to battle
Fight for ISU...


ISUMatt

Holy crap dude. Long time no see...

[PantherRob82]

CHAD good to see you again, hope all is well!!


ISUMatt

You should come up for a basketball game, or maybe we can come down there. Been a long time. :)

[clenz]

You should come up for a basketball game, or maybe we can come down there. Been a long time. :)
UNI plays at isu on a Sunday

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[ISUMatt]

Holy crap dude. Long time no see...

Howdy!! Seriously it's been almost 4 years, I figured it's time to end my AGS grudge


ISUMatt

[ISUMatt]

Matt, same to you. Any mvc plans for you?

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The Tournament in St Louis is in the plans :)


ISUMatt

[ISUMatt]

You should come up for a basketball game, or maybe we can come down there. Been a long time. :)

Maybe I'll take you up on that. We will see how everything works out!


ISUMatt

[REALBird]

I would like to think he is an outlier...but I've been to many conference basketball tournaments in St Louis.

Illinois State fans (when they would show up...much like this thread it didn't happen often)...were always right there with Creighton for most annoying/rude fan bases.

What's funny is OSBF, who is apparently hated by ISUr fans, is BY FAR the best Redbird fan I've ever encountered.

Tailgated with him before football games, sat with him at football games, went to bars with him in Cedar Falls, went to bars with him in St Louis....always very generous and gracious.

Easy to make friends elsewhere when you crap on your own school. Not many of us can stand to be around the guy apparently.

To that end, I will admit I am not the biggest fan of Dan Muller. But he's our Head Coach for now. If he can right the ship, then good for him, good for ISU and good for our fans. But if he underachieved and is run out of town on the first thing smoking.....so be it. The program winning comes first, my personal agenda a distant second. If I REALLY didn't like the cut of his jib, I wouldn't support him or the program until after he was gone. My personal preference, but I don't have to be a tool and try to drag him, the kids, or the school through the dirt to prove a point.

OSBF has done all of the above. At least on RBF.com he hasn't uttered as much as one positive word in the direction of either program. If that's his thing GREAT, go suck up elsewhere. Apparently he lives by the mantra "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

[clenz]

The Tournament in St Louis is in the plans :)


ISUMatt
Trying to work it on our end. Next year is crazy for us.

My wife got into the University of Michigan for a specialty program that requires 6 trips up there next year (all driving out there and back) so that will eat up all of my PTO, more or less. One of those trips is at the end of March as well.

Still trying to figure the tourney into that somehow

[clenz]

Easy to make friends elsewhere when you crap on your own school. Not many of us can stand to be around the guy apparently.

To that end, I will admit I am not the biggest fan of Dan Muller. But he's our Head Coach for now. If he can right the ship, then good for him, good for ISU and good for our fans. But if he underachieved and is run out of town on the first thing smoking.....so be it. The program winning comes first, my personal agenda a distant second. If I REALLY didn't like the cut of his jib, I wouldn't support him or the program until after he was gone. My personal preference, but I don't have to be a tool and try to drag him, the kids, or the school through the dirt to prove a point.

OSBF has done all of the above. At least on RBF.com he hasn't uttered as much as one positive word in the direction of either program. If that's his thing GREAT, go suck up elsewhere. Apparently he lives by the mantra "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

What's funny about this is that everything he's said that's been "anit-ISU" is actually fairly legit issues if you'd take off your blinders. Seems to be the same things that others are saying about your programs inside the conference.


Maybe the fact he doesn't blindly suck Redbird hang down, no matter what, is an issue. Maybe the issue is those that do.

[Lehigh'98]

What's funny about this is that everything he's said that's been "anit-ISU" is actually fairly legit issues if you'd take off your blinders. Seems to be the same things that others are saying about your programs inside the conference.


Maybe the fact he doesn't blindly suck Redbird hang down, no matter what, is an issue. Maybe the issue is those that do.

all schools have their issues. Doesn't mean you can't support them thru it. I'm sure you dig up dirt on almost any school.

[BisonFan02]

Sooooooooooo.......in summary. Some ISUr fans only wait until they win to show up and talk **** and **** on UNI fans that were allegedly talking **** before the game and should've just waited till after? Sounds pretty chicken **** to me I guess? xcoffeex

[birdsflyhigh]

I think what the UNI poster is missing here is that OSBF's sole purpose seems to be to rip on anything and everything ISU. No wonder pposing fans think he's just the best. Pretty sad for OSBF that your allies are other's schools fans and no one from Redbird Nation.

Hopefully UNI bounces back next year and is right back in the playoffs, but for now the MVFC has some unfinished business and that is winning yet another FCS championship....COOL! :)

[ISUMatt]

Most ISUr fans are great people. I've known OSBF a long time and he is a great person. As a fan base we are always quick tempered. It sucks playing second fiddle to Illinois and not having success in the basketball/football game. So when we do have some success, yes some guys come out of the wood work and wear out their welcome. Most though are not fans of FCS in general like most on these boards are. Now I fit that quick temper too, I ran the poll on this board years ago, and then got slapped around by a mod for having a strong opinion on something and bam suspended!!. I told them if you suspend me you might as well kiss my ass goodbye and now FOUR years later I finally come back. Quick tempered!!. I've been off RBF.net for almost 2 years now, why, ISUr posters who don't like your opinions and beat you down over it

So what's the point of all this rambling???. ISU fans are tough to get along with. They flock here to gain football insight outside off the Valley, we puff out our chests because we have a reason too. 1st home playoff game in 15 years can you blame us???. Maybe if this was more common for us we would be more humble, maybe if we didn't play second fiddle to Illinois we wouldn't be so quick tempered. Maybe someday we can chill out and listen to opinions instead of instantly judging and condemning them. But until those things happen, that's just the way they will be.

BTW I look forward to catching up with many old friends here, it's been way too long!!


ISUMatt

[Redbirdgrad]

I think the issue more for me is constantly reading (from some posters, not all) how disrespected ISU was all the way up until kickoff. Then Northern Iowa gets handled by a very well prepared Redbird team, yet UNI fans still wouldn't give them credit. It wasn't the fact that ISU was flat out the better team on Saturday that was the reason we won, it was a quarterback change not happening, or an offensive coordinator who didn't call the game how they wanted, etc. etc. It had very little to do with ISU taking UNI out of their game plan and shutting down a superior running back. Again, this is from some posters, not all.

The reason I don't post much? It's usually more fun to read than comment, but I could only take so much this week. The Birds had more All-Anything selections than even the mighty North Dakota State, yet some UNI posters still thought this one was "in the bag", and refused to give the superior team credit where credit was due. It was beyond sickening.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion, and I enjoy reading the various ones I find on this site, even those that differ from mine... but the disrespect went too far this week. Northern would have lost that game no matter who the quarterback was, and no matter who was calling the plays. Illinois State was ready for them and it showed. If you think differently, I respect your opinion, but that's just mine.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Sooooooooooo.......in summary. Some ISUr fans only wait until they win to show up and talk **** and **** on UNI fans that were allegedly talking **** before the game and should've just waited till after? Sounds pretty chicken **** to me I guess? xcoffeex

Sounds about right to me.

[clenz]

I'm still not seeing a single post doing what you're claiming, and you have yet to supply it.

FWIW, once a QB change was made it was 21-18 UNI....

UNI may not have won with Sawyer at QB, but he did throw for more yards in one half than Brion did in any game this year i believe. ..


Did some looking, sawyee was 5 yards shy of Brions career hight and just 1 shy of his career high td.


To act like nothing would have been different is pretty dumb.

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[PantherRob82]

I think the issue more for me is constantly reading (from some posters, not all) how disrespected ISU was all the way up until kickoff. Then Northern Iowa gets handled by a very well prepared Redbird team, yet UNI fans still wouldn't give them credit. It wasn't the fact that ISU was flat out the better team on Saturday that was the reason we won, it was a quarterback change not happening, or an offensive coordinator who didn't call the game how they wanted, etc. etc. It had very little to do with ISU taking UNI out of their game plan and shutting down a superior running back. Again, this is from some posters, not all.

The reason I don't post much? It's usually more fun to read than comment, but I could only take so much this week. The Birds had more All-Anything selections than even the mighty North Dakota State, yet some UNI posters still thought this one was "in the bag", and refused to give the superior team credit where credit was due. It was beyond sickening.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion, and I enjoy reading the various ones I find on this site, even those that differ from mine... but the disrespect went too far this week. Northern would have lost that game no matter who the quarterback was, and no matter who was calling the plays. Illinois State was ready for them and it showed. If you think differently, I respect your opinion, but that's just mine.

So you're crying because UNI fans thought they would win and then thought they would have had a shot if Sawyer had played the whole game?

[clenz]

So you're crying because UNI fans thought they would win and then thought they would have had a shot if Sawyer had played the whole game?
Still has yet to prvide me any proof of his accusations that brought him out of hiding

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[PantherRob82]

Which one of you is the baby posting on Panther Nation demanding credit?

Seems like winning the game should be enough.

[Redbirdgrad]

I'm still not seeing a single post doing what you're claiming, and you have yet to supply it.

FWIW, once a QB change was made it was 21-18 UNI....

UNI may not have won with Sawyer at QB, but he did throw for more yards in one half than Brion did in any game this year i believe. ..


Did some looking, sawyee was 5 yards shy of Brions career hight and just 1 shy of his career high td.


To act like nothing would have been different is pretty dumb.

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To think that the ISU game-plan and defense was the same when your little 21-18 run started is what is dumb here. You STILL have yet to give ISU the credit here and are claiming it was UNI's losing the game that contributed to the final outcome more than ISU winning it. THAT'S what really grinds my gears (as Peter would say). I don't need to go digging through the pages of this thread to show you what I'm talking about as you're doing it right this very second.

Congrats on your 2nd quarterback outplaying your 1st, he was very good when he came in. But he was playing against a much more relaxed defense (look at the score), and the tone of the game when he took over was much different than when your starter took the opening snap. Had this new QB took every snap from center, I can guarantee his stat line wouldn't have just scaled with the increased playing time.

[clenz]

What exactly am i taking away fron ISU?

It's clear they didn't have a plan for Kollmorgen and even if his stats don't scale it changes the entire complexion of that first half. There is zero denying that. Would it have changed the end result? I have no idea.

If UNI fans are as bad as you vlaim you shouldn't have to go digging through pages to find examples.

The amazing part of your little butt hurt parade is i have yet to actually take any kind of stand on this game but you've found a way to paint me as disrespectful.


Also, you are the one accusing uni fans if beinf classless and sore losers. The burden of proof is on you to prove it. So far the case you're building makes the case the prosecutor in the Treyvon Martin case look strong

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[clenz]

all schools have their issues. Doesn't mean you can't support them thru it. I'm sure you dig up dirt on almost any school.
Difference is most fan bases don't act quite like ISURs has when their fellow fans point it out.

most fan bases in the mvc will make a point of not supporting players and coaches who do **** lime shooting at a car (or whatever it was).The rep of ISU isn't real strong withing MVC circles outside Normal.

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[SIUSalukiFan]

The amazing part of your little butt hurt parade is i have yet to actually take any kind of stand on this game but you've found a way to paint me as disrespectful.


Also, you are the one accusing uni fans if beinf classless and sore losers. The burden of proof is on you to prove it. So far the case you're building makes the case the prosecutor in the Treyvon Martin case look strong

xeyebrowx


5 weeks ago there wasn't a ****ing redbird fan on this sit.


Kind of like your stadium today.

****ing shameful…

Only the second playoff game ever hosted, not a holiday weekend, no FBS game in the area, conference rematch against your only loss, decent weather and you? Get 5k with over 1k panther fans….

[Lehigh'98]

Sooooooooooo.......in summary. Some ISUr fans only wait until they win to show up and talk **** and **** on UNI fans that were allegedly talking **** before the game and should've just waited till after? Sounds pretty chicken **** to me I guess? xcoffeex

im sure they are very concerned about your views. Perhaps they just didn't feel like participating in the year long MVFC love fest.

[gobirds85]

I'm amazed this thread still has life. The petty back and forth is amusing but seems to have run it's course.

ISU simply outplayed and outcoached the hottest team in FCS last Saturday. We punched UNI in the mouth and had a 21-0 lead after the first quarter. David Johnson, clearly one of the top backs in all of FCS, had nothing. The vaunted UNI defense looked like a bad DIII school. Your back up qb saw a different D than the starter as we were coasting and playing a soft cover D.

Without the three TOs in the fourth quarter this score could have been much larger.

In the final analysis it comes down to one thing...scoreboard.

Congrats on a great season. By the way, you guys got royally screwed at iowa to start the season. When the first 13 penalties of the game go against you something isn't right.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I'm amazed this thread still has life. The petty back and forth is amusing but seems to have run it's course.

ISU simply outplayed and outcoached the hottest team in FCS last Saturday. We punched UNI in the mouth and had a 21-0 lead after the first quarter. David Johnson, clearly one of the top backs in all of FCS, had nothing. The vaunted UNI defense looked like a bad DIII school. Your back up qb saw a different D than the starter as we were coasting and playing a soft cover D.

Without the three TOs in the fourth quarter this score could have been much larger.

In the final analysis it comes down to one thing...scoreboard.

Congrats on a great season. By the way, you guys got royally screwed at iowa to start the season. When the first 13 penalties of the game go against you something isn't right.

So we don't get credit for forcing turnovers, but you get credit for "punching us in the mouth"? The problem with your assertion about the QB and the "soft defense" is that your DBs couldn't cover us all game our QB just couldn't hit them in the first half. That is no different than all season, but our defense played worse than that have all year. Is that because of ISUr? Probably most of it.

I love that you guys talk about no respect and giving ISUr credit, but prior to the game no one from ISUr was giving us credit for winning the first game. Respect is a 2 way street man. When most people watch their team play worse then they have all year theyfeel like their team lost more than the other team won. Guess what I bet that is the way you felt when you guys played in the UNI-Dome. Good luck next week, and I hope your D plays better against the pass vs EWU because their QB can actually complete passes and will for the whole game.

You guys won the game why do you keep coming back here bitching about a lack of respect anyway?

[unigriff]

let it go UNIFan...most the "bird" fans on here are related to or equivalent of Lakes. Only difference is Lakes is around all the time, birds..don't know what winning is.

[Redbird Recon]

From a schematic standpoint, ISUr was able to exploit Kilfoy's lack of speed with a player they haven't utilized much all season. RS FR Jon-Marc Anderson had 4 catches for 79 yards, most coming on routes ran away from one of the Valley's better safeties. He only had 60 total receiving yards coming into the game.

[gobirds85]

So we don't get credit for forcing turnovers, but you get credit for "punching us in the mouth"? The problem with your assertion about the QB and the "soft defense" is that your DBs couldn't cover us all game our QB just couldn't hit them in the first half. That is no different than all season, but our defense played worse than that have all year. Is that because of ISUr? Probably most of it.

I love that you guys talk about no respect and giving ISUr credit, but prior to the game no one from ISUr was giving us credit for winning the first game. Respect is a 2 way street man. When most people watch their team play worse then they have all year theyfeel like their team lost more than the other team won. Guess what I bet that is the way you felt when you guys played in the UNI-Dome. Good luck next week, and I hope your D plays better against the pass vs EWU because their QB can actually complete passes and will for the whole game.

You guys won the game why do you keep coming back here bitching about a lack of respect anyway?

By calling you the "hottest team in FCS" I fail at giving you any respect? Can I ask what should I say about UNI?

The two games that scared me the most all season...Nov. 1 at the UNI Dome and last Saturday. Sorry for not clarifying that earlier.

[World]

Meanwhile, congratulations to UNI for its top 25 ranking in Div. 1 basketball:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

[DaBurds!!]

Redbird fans, just let it go. We won, respect will come if we "just win, baby."
Many of these posters think we are fair-weather...possibly we only speak when there is something to be excited about. We haven't had much success in our major sports since the 90's, but we have been here before. Act like it. They think we don't give respect, but they should read our board and how we gush over the better team that day, whom ever that was. I believe if they look at the average amount of posts we make they will realize we've been around a long time, but we listen. "A fool is made more of a fool, when their mouth is more open then their mind."
Clenz, I have read your UNI board, but I would never comment as that is rarely welcomed. Though your board, a whole 'nother level! Personal attacks about Normal, our fan base, and the whole state of Illinois being "white and black trash"? To each his own, but many of those rants were one cross-burning short of a Klan meeting. Now, I only hold those posters accountable who didn't call those people out on the behavior, which no one really did. But besides that, I still see UNI as a class act from my personal experiences and how their teams play. Everyone has their blemishes though. I'm not going to apologize for 18 year olds acting like 18 year olds, it has nothing to do with what happens on the field/court. But the dragging our name through the mud because we have something to be excited about is tired. I've read this board a while, and it seems to be a lot less personal between other schools. When EWU beat Montana or JMU squeaking by Lehigh, etc.
if we lose this week, you may not hear from many of us, I won't say anything after the analysis has run its course. I generally don't like to post about any other team than the one we are playing/played.

[Twentysix]

Probably should keep this thread alive at least 2 more weeks. UNI deserves it for all the tuesday celebration in the regular season ;).

[UNIFanSince1983]

Probably should keep this thread alive at least 2 more weeks. UNI deserves it for all the tuesday celebration in the regular season ;).

Well I went to the Dome last night to rip the goalposts down, but they weren't there anymore since our season was over. However, I did jump from the stands to the floor and ran around with my shirt off yelling "Bison SUCK" for a good hour or so.

[Twentysix]

Well I went to the Dome last night to rip the goalposts down, but they weren't there anymore since our season was over. However, I did jump from the stands to the floor and ran around with my shirt off yelling "Bison SUCK" for a good hour or so.

xthumbsupx There is always next year.

[clenz]

Clenz, I have read your UNI board, but I would never comment as that is rarely welcomed. Though your board, a whole 'nother level! Personal attacks about Normal, our fan base, and the whole state of Illinois being "white and black trash"? To each his own, but many of those rants were one cross-burning short of a Klan meeting. Now, I only hold those posters accountable who didn't call those people out on the behavior, which no one really did. But besides that, I still see UNI as a class act from my personal experiences and how their teams play. Everyone has their blemishes though. I'm not going to apologize for 18 year olds acting like 18 year olds, it has nothing to do with what happens on the field/court. But the dragging our name through the mud because we have something to be excited about is tired.
Do you see my name on PantherNation?

Go check the username log...go see when the last time I logged in was - I can tell you that date was by complete accident when I used a computer I hadn't been on for a while and PN was that homepage.

Prior to that I can promise you it's been almost 2 years since I posted there.

I have no idea what is said there, nor do I care.

Home boards are very different than here. I've asked for examples of posters here being disrespectful of ISU

[DaBurds!!]

Do you see my name on PantherNation?

Go check the username log...go see when the last time I logged in was - I can tell you that date was by complete accident when I used a computer I hadn't been on for a while and PN was that homepage.

Prior to that I can promise you it's been almost 2 years since I posted there.

I have no idea what is said there, nor do I care.

Home boards are very different than here. I've asked for examples of posters here being disrespectful of ISU

Clenz, I didn't mean to make this personal, just pointing out that all UNI fans (not you) or fans in general, aren't perfect.
I'm not going to nitpick every little thing that is said in here like I'm these people's mama. It is their opinion. It makes it fun. But if the small contingent of ISUr fans feel a little disrespected here, I wouldn't believe they'd just make that up.

[REALBird]

From a schematic standpoint, ISUr was able to exploit Kilfoy's lack of speed with a player they haven't utilized much all season. RS FR Jon-Marc Anderson had 4 catches for 79 yards, most coming on routes ran away from one of the Valley's better safeties. He only had 60 total receiving yards coming into the game.
Nice stat Recon. Thanks. On another note (not directed at Recon)

Stats go a long way in validating how ISU won. Talking crap because a few UNI posters were over confident is just....petty. I don't have to agree with anyone, sometimes its just easier to agree to disagree. Many had/have opinions on most of the Valley awards. State your position, move on. Why the hell are we still beating this dead horse?

I don't agree with the crap talking, trash talking, whatever you call it. You beat a team, move on to the next. I pointed out a few stats based on those predictions, but my aim wasn't personal.

Some Bird fans need to get over it! As for OSBF, PantherNation you can have him. His opinions no more reflect the opinions of all Redbird Nation than the crackpot poster on each of your boards.

As for the overall reputation of ISUr fans, cant do anything about that...not that those who showed up helped that opinion. But its not exactly like I just gush over fans from other boards either. I appreciate the respectful ones, and could give a crap about the others. Long story short, I wont be losing any sleep over what anyone else thinks of me from a message board! GTFOHWTS

[clenz]

Clenz, I didn't mean to make this personal, just pointing out that all UNI fans (not you) or fans in general, aren't perfect.
I'm not going to nitpick every little thing that is said in here like I'm these people's mama. It is their opinion. It makes it fun. But if the small contingent of ISUr fans feel a little disrespected here, I wouldn't believe they'd just make that up.
Again...im waiting for proof UNI fans were disrespectful on AGS.

If PN has issues then thats a PN issue mot an issue to drag to AGS...especially when you never post and then show up screaming DISRESPECT. Im sure i could find whatever the ISU board is and find plenty of excuses and disrespect around both UNI games, but what would that prove?

All I'm waiting for is proof.




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[PantherRob82]

im sure they are very concerned about your views. Perhaps they just didn't feel like participating in the year long MVFC love fest.

They apparently are concerned about everyone's views and demand satisfaction. xlolx

[Bisonator]

Well I went to the Dome last night to rip the goalposts down, but they weren't there anymore since our season was over. However, I did jump from the stands to the floor and ran around with my shirt off yelling "Bison SUCK" for a good hour or so.

Have they hung the banner over the garage door yet? :D

[UNIFanSince1983]

Have they hung the banner over the garage door yet? :D

This one is actually painted on the roof of the Dome on the outside so you can see it for miles ;)

[BisonFan02]

This one is actually painted on the roof of the Dome on the outside so you can see it for miles ;)

We all wanted to charge the field when ISUr won, but the Bison were still playing. :D

[Bisonator]

This one is actually painted on the roof of the Dome on the outside so you can see it for miles ;)
Probably so no Bison fan can steal it! xlolxxthumbsupx

[DaBurds!!]

let it go UNIFan...most the "bird" fans on here are related to or equivalent of Lakes. Only difference is Lakes is around all the time, birds..don't know what winning is.

If you are referring to LakesBison, I'll have you know he/she is not received well on RBF.net.
I think he came on and said "just go in their crappy dome and beat them, and get out. That's what we do!" People called him out on it...But It was real funny to turn that back around on him when UNI beat NDSU the very next week!
I'll concede that we are a little championship starved. However, both soccer, volleyball, and football are conf champs and in postseason play! 1 conference loss between them all, I'd say that's "winning".

[Redbirdgrad]

Thanks SIUSalukiFan. I don't go dumpster diving for quotes, etc, but this is one of them that furthers the point. UNI fans can't have it both ways. You can't rip a team/program, and then when yours gets called out get all up in arms about it.

You lost. You're golfing. Get over it.


http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by clenz http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?p=2195451#post2195451)
The amazing part of your little butt hurt parade is i have yet to actually take any kind of stand on this game but you've found a way to paint me as disrespectful.


Also, you are the one accusing uni fans if beinf classless and sore losers. The burden of proof is on you to prove it. So far the case you're building makes the case the prosecutor in the Treyvon Martin case look strong
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http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by clenz http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?p=2193904#post2193904)
5 weeks ago there wasn't a ****ing redbird fan on this sit.


Kind of like your stadium today.

****ing shameful…

Only the second playoff game ever hosted, not a holiday weekend, no FBS game in the area, conference rematch against your only loss, decent weather and you? Get 5k with over 1k panther fans….

[clenz]

Thanks SIUSalukiFan. I don't go dumpster diving for quotes, etc, but this is one of them that furthers the point. UNI fans can't have it both ways. You can't rip a team/program, and then when yours gets called out get all up in arms about it.

You lost. You're golfing. Get over it.
Still a fail.

That' quote proves nothing I was talking about

In fact it is 100% correct.

A month ago none of you were here.

The amount of fans at that game was shameful - your posters have said as much. There was at least 1k panther fans there.

Again...point out where a UNI fan has been disrespectful of your program.

[PantherRob82]

Illinois State is the best team that has ever existed. We should thank them for giving us the win in the regular season and for allowing us the privilege of taking a bus trip to Normal so we could have the honor of playing their legendary team in their amazing facilities.

Everything about their campus, facilities, and athletic programs is more amazing than anything I could ever comprehend.

There, they should be good now. :D

[gobirds85]

Still a fail.

That' quote proves nothing I was talking about

In fact it is 100% correct.

A month ago none of you were here.

The amount of fans at that game was shameful - your posters have said as much. There was at least 1k panther fans there.

Again...point out where a UNI fan has been disrespectful of your program.

There was nowhere near 1000 UNI fans. You are being delusional here. As I stated before no one was happy with the crowd turnout but we were all happy with the results.

A month ago none of us were on this site...so? I have been visiting the site for some time. I thinks it's a great site.

I know you are not happy about the way the season ended, what UNI fan would be? Maybe you need to get over it. Hell, your bball team is VERY GOOD. Get ready for another run in March with them.

If you feel the need to continue to nit pick and complain about it, have at it but in the final analysis only one thing matters...scoreboard.

[clenz]

Oddly enough, I'm not complaining....I'm not worked up...I'm trying get you guys to actually answer some questions rather than being complete lakesbison...maybe bring it down to mplsbison.

- - - Updated - - -

Also...since you are against "dumpster diving" but I'm not..



Embarrassing number at Illinois State

I'm guessing 1,000 of those were UNI fans too.

[REALBird]

Still a fail.

That' quote proves nothing I was talking about

In fact it is 100% correct.

A month ago none of you were here.

The amount of fans at that game was shameful - your posters have said as much. There was at least 1k panther fans there.

Again...point out where a UNI fan has been disrespectful of your program.


Clenz,

I appreciate the response and your explanation of how you ranked the teams. I can live with those explanations. One more question. Sam Houston State loses by 3 TD's at THEN #1 Eastern Washington, and then comes back and rebounds with a W over a lesser opponent. I would have figured they would have dropped a slot or two as well based on not being in the ballpark with EWU. Instead seems the pollsters totally dismissed a drubbing by EWU, but give credit to SHSU for a cakewalk against Alabama State? Once again, appreciate the feedback. This is not a criticism of you per se, just looking at how I viewed some inconsistencies in how TSN ranked the teams this week.

The game seemed a lot closer than it was, until EWU tacked on a couple of 4Q TD's, but a loss is a loss. They should have at least dropped a spot or two IMHO.

I was here! ^^^^^^^^Back from Sept. 9th or so.....

[Jrbird2]

Ok let's look at this objectively with, as requested, quotes! Redbird 13 made a post before the game about handing the game to the panthers. It was a sarcastic jab at the confidence the UNI fans were showing in the first pages of the thread, and probably a bit of a baited message. PantherRob resonded by calling him a 'giant baby'. The thread was normal after the game and both fanbases were being pretty classy. Then Redbird 13 responded in postgame.


Post count doesn't mean jack. I was a longtime reader who got fed up with the UNI fans pissing all over any positive ISU thoughts.

You would, too. Fact is, ISU is a hell of a lot better than any UNI fan wanted to give the 'Birds credit for, and they proved it today.

ISU fan replies to a pregame post AFTER the game to call out a UNI fan. The timing here wasn't amazing, but hey... someone called him a baby and he wanted to get back at the guy with some showboating! At this point both posters are baiting eachother for an argument.


Keep crying. Post count doesn't mean jack. You just whined and posted nothing meaningful. Same for your second post. We'll just look forward to the bump that knocks you off the band wagon.

The Redbird 13 is a baby trend continues. But that doesn't really matter because...


5 weeks ago there wasn't a ****ing redbird fan on this sit.


Kind of like your stadium today.

****ing shameful…

Only the second playoff game ever hosted, not a holiday weekend, no FBS game in the area, conference rematch against your only loss, decent weather and you? Get 5k with over 1k panther fans….


Clenz sees the argument quoted above fires out this post...


Ah such is the history of UNI posters...IF this or IF that. My god, seems like every season there are a ton of pollsters and fan forum posters (and readers) that get caught up in all the UNI spin. I had tickets at the 50 yard line today at beautiful Hancock Stadium and even with the Redbirds 3 second half turnovers that was STILL a manhandling of supposedly the "hottest" team in all of FCS football. 13-0 record now at Hancock 2.0.

What happened to the vaunted UNI defense today? I'll tell you what happened...the ISU Redbirds absolutely dismantled the Panthers. The better team is advancing in the playoffs.

Talked to a group of UNI fans making our way back to the car and they were a pretty cool lot. Too bad more UNI fans posting on boards can't be a bit better, but it is what it is. I agree with a previous poster that several UNI posters have ripped on Illinois State for some time now.

Should make for some interesting games once MVC hoops begins in a few weeks. Alright, looking forward to the rematch/battle against EWU...YES!! :)


Maybe it's the liquor and medication, but you might be suffering from double vision as there was no where near 1K Panther fans. Not happy about crowd size myself, but as it was previously pointed out...pretty petty.

In the final analysis it comes down to one thing...scoreboard.

...to which a number of ISU fans come out of the woodworks to defend their school. ISU fans interpret clenz's post here as extremely hostile towards our fanbase. Clenz believes he is shooting down some idiot posting crap above. Either way, things have begun now.


I think every fan base whose team lost today is looking back at how it could have gone differently. You won, stop whining about petty stuff.

The second half was a completely different game for us and if the tables were turned you guys would be having thw same frustrations and thinking "what if".

Plenty of fans from the other MVFC schools have weighed in and agreed that our coaches screwed us over by putting Carnes at the helm, and if you think this game wouldn't have been different with Sawyer playing all 4 quarters then you are delusional.

PantherRob continues arguing with Redbird 13, calling him a whiner again.


All AGS readers stay on HIGH alert as the UNI spin alert squad is now swinging into action. WOW.



Just like the delusional UNI fans who said ISU wouldn't touch 30 or Coprich wouldn't come close to 100 yards? Or that the return of ISU's best offensive lineman would make no difference.

Hilarious work, UNI fans. You guys sure know your stuff.

Consider these posts the return point for clenz's above- these ISU fans took argument bait that probably wasn't meant for them. However, they interpret the general hostile nature of clenz's post as something they need to defend their school of. There is probably no specific point in which a uni fan stated that "ISU wouldn't touch 30 or Coprich wouldn't come close to 100 yards" but I think it was a poorly contrieved jab at the confidence that UNI fans were showing in the pre-game. Again, probably wouldn't have happened if these posters didn't interpret clenz's posts the way they did.


Ok the last two pages of this thread make it official- we're rivals now!!

I make a sarcastic post about this arguing making us rivals (hey, i've seen similar arguments betwen ISU fans and bradley fans :)), which worsened things a lot- go me! I explained what I meant next page, but at this point, the 'ISU is UNI's little brother' posts start to happen, which further baits ISU fans into coming out of the woodworks.

So the instigator on the ISU side is Redbird 13. The instigator for many of the ISU posters coming here is clenz's post, as well as the arguments that arose from quotes of each of these posts. At this point I'd need to quote every post for all the detail, but I'll just do a few.


This is a nice statement for the guys playing the game, but has nothing to do with posters on a message board.

UNI fans ran their mouth, got their butts kicked, and now want to change the focus from the game itself to some more macro-arguement. Sorry, not going to cut it with me. Yes, there are a ton of ISU fans who read boards like this, but infrequently comment and post. The reason you're seeing them come out now? That's due to the ridiculous comments coming out of our opponents mouth pre-game.

Sorry, but if you talk a big game and then proceed to get HANDLED, be ready to be called out on it.
Redbirdgrad misinterpreted the confidence UNI fans were showing and the previous postgame arguments as 'UNI fans running their mouths'. This was probably fueled by the fact there was already an argument. 1983 and Clenz can respond in many ways, but chooses in instigate the argument further.


This is funny. I said it would happen from every Valley school too. More UNI fans would be here if we were having the season ISUr is. I was not one of the posters making bold predictions, and I am not sure who you are talking about. I saw a few people predict UNI would win by quite a bit, but why is that so crazy? They thought our team was good, and we were a great team. Just not the better team on Saturday. I bet you thought your team was great and would have predicted a big win that day too.

I would love to cheer for you guys going forward, but you are making that awfully difficult. It is a shame there are so many dbags that wear ISUr clothing because you guys have a great team this year. You realize most of the UNI fans that were dismissive before the game are gone? They are like you and only show up when things are going well for the team.


I would like to think he is an outlier...but I've been to many conference basketball tournaments in St Louis.

Illinois State fans (when they would show up...much like this thread it didn't happen often)...were always right there with Creighton for most annoying/rude fan bases.

What's funny is OSBF, who is apparently hated by ISUr fans, is BY FAR the best Redbird fan I've ever encountered.

Tailgated with him before football games, sat with him at football games, went to bars with him in Cedar Falls, went to bars with him in St Louis....always very generous and gracious.

And now two UNI fans are calling out ISU's entire fanbase for the actions of mainly two forum posters. If this isn't baiting for an argument, I don't know what is.

I hope I painted a clear picture here- please let me know if I misinterpreted a quote. Moral of the story is that a single redbird fan instigated this. I'm sure many redbird fans think that Redbirdfan 13 should not have made that post- none of this arguing would have happened without it. Two UNI posters (clenz and rob) brought in hostility which in turn angered more redbird fans into joining in. And that's where we are now.

[clenz]

I have yet to be hostile.

You'll know I'm being hostile when I'm being hostile.

[Redbirdgrad]

Empty threats coming from Clenz. Lookout now, tough guy on campus.

You give him facts, he brushes them aside asking to "prove this" or "show me that".

We showed you quite a bit on Saturday, but if only you had a different QB, or defense, or coordinator, or..... just let us know what else...

[clenz]

Where did i make a threat? Where was i hostile?

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[Jrbird2]

Where did i make a threat? Where was i hostile?

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5 weeks ago there wasn't a ****ing redbird fan on this sit.


Kind of like your stadium today.

****ing shameful…

Only the second playoff game ever hosted, not a holiday weekend, no FBS game in the area, conference rematch against your only loss, decent weather and you? Get 5k with over 1k panther fans….
You may have not intended to come off as hostile here, but the language you chose to use is what, in my observation, began the entire argument (as I pointed out previously). Mainly the "****ing shameful". Before that post, only one UNI fan and one redbird fan were arguing about anything, and the atmosphere was pretty classy. The arguments in this thread started as a direct result of this post. Heck, I'm prettty sure an SDSU fan posted a picture of a nuke exploding right after it!

The number of argumentative posts before you made that post and the number after it should be enough quantifiable evidence to show that redbird fans took your post as hostile in nature. Perceived tone on the internet is important, and your words seemingly gave us a different look at your feelings about this than you wanted to give us.

(to be clear, I'm only in this thread because in some later posts our ENTIRE fanbase was called out by UNI posters)

[clenz]

Oh no...i said ****.


Clearly hostile


Wait. ..what's that? It's just a word? Hmm

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[Bisonator]

Oh no...i said ****.


Clearly hostile


Wait. ..what's that? It's just a word? Hmm

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Stop it you ****ing big meany! xlolx

[Jrbird2]

Oh I knew I had no chance of changing your opinion on anything :)

My post was for neutral observers and non-participating members of both fanbases. By listing exactly what happened and attributing it to specific people, it was my goal to destroy the notion that our entire forum-surfing fanbases should be at odds with eachother from now on. I've enjoyed watching a good relationship between ISU posters and UNI posters in recent years across the web. This thread threatened that, and I felt I should jump in to not only save that relationship, but to defend our fanbase's reputation as well. As well as that, I want to say that I don't believe that anybody's bad experience with a specific group of fans at arch madness should be indicative of how everyone should view those fans. I saw a Drake fan litter there once... but I don't think Drake has a vendetta against out planet haha

I think I've done what I need to do, so no need for me to return here anymore!

[clenz]

You would think drake doesn't hate the planet.....you would think

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[REALBird]

High time you boys handle this battle like MEN!

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[PantherRob82]

Ok let's look at this objectively with, as requested, quotes! Redbird 13 made a post before the game about handing the game to the panthers. It was a sarcastic jab at the confidence the UNI fans were showing in the first pages of the thread, and probably a bit of a baited message. PantherRob resonded by calling him a 'giant baby'. The thread was normal after the game and both fanbases were being pretty classy. Then Redbird 13 responded in postgame.

It wasn't even a jab. It was him being whiny because UNI fans thought they could win.


Not even sure if the Redbirds should show up. Hell, cancel the playoffs and hand the trophy to UNI.

You guys are too sensitive for message boards if you think that I am bringing in hostility.

All I have said is that it's whiny to get worked up about fans of your opponent thinking they can win and then expecting them to kiss the ring after they lose.

[PantherRob82]

In the first 10 pages (before the whining began) here are the few "negative" posts I found.


If Carnes has a big day rushing then we smoke them. That would mean a huge change in our offensive play calling.

Responding to Griff who said Carnes could have a big day running. Didn't agree with him, just said that if he did, I thought we would win big.


I think the key this time will be Roberson vs the UNI defense. Coprich will get his carries but likely not the breakout runs he had last time. Roberson is the key. If he can get going vs the uni d we may see quite the game. If he has a pitiful performance like last time could be a long day. I also think carnes will have a big day rushing.

He was right. Roberson was the key.


UNI 38
isu 21

Less than 100 posts over 4-5 years.


32 points huh? We haven't given up more than 31 this season and that was twice (Iowa, SDSU) before our offense was on the field a tad more than our defense. IF ISUr can score 30 they may win. But I doubt they will get there.

He was right and then wrong, and it's griff. :)


Coprich won't break 100 in this one rushing. (maybe rushing/receiving total).

Roberson is gonna have to beat us with his legs.

He was wrong on both counts. Also, it was griff. xlolx



Roberson is going to need to beat us with his legs if he wants to survive this one. Redbirds can't afford to give up 5 sacks and 12 TFL's again. You think Roberson remembers Brett MacMakin? Glad Tre is okay, because he got lit up by the sophomore.

For as much flak as UNI gets for a mediocre to below average QB in Carnes, Roberson was nearly as ineffective as Brion was in that game. Made poor decisions, wasn't able to use his mobility, did not threaten the defense with his arm. They were almost the same player except Brion took less hits.

Roberson was 15-35 for 127 yds and 2 picks with 1 TD. 21 yds rushing on 11 "carries" (I think those stats include sacks...not sure what the Panthers statisticians count as a carry). Brion was 10-30 for 117 yds and 2 picks with 1 TD. 19 yds rushing on 7 "carries". You guys can blame turnovers and field position all you want (it was nearly the same reason ISUr got their 3 TDs) but your QB play was just as much to blame. If the offensive line hasn't gotten its act together then they're in for another rude awakening from UNI's front 7.

Roberson was ineffective in the first matchup. He clearly explains why/how. Your OL did get it together and we paid for it. Great conversation.


So coming in and making your first post about just giving us the trophy seems like a whiny thing to do in my opinion. He could have come in and had and actual conversation about the points he disagreed with, but instead went the sarcastic/baby route. My bad for calling it like I see it.

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High time you boys handle this battle like MEN!

20290

I'm all in for a dance off and/or karaoke!

[Sycamore62]

What time is this game Saturday?

edit: to save you time, it's right after ISUb plays

[gobirds85]

I love UNI. Took them in the first half and the final. Easy $$$$. Thank you, Panthers.

[Houndawg]

I was pulling for UNI in this one, but this clenz meltdown might just be worth it...

It'll have to do - I'd rather have seen UNI win and put an end to all the "Chicago Cubs of the FCS" talk but that's just me.. :(

[DaBurds!!]

It'll have to do - I'd rather have seen UNI win and put an end to all the "Chicago Cubs of the FCS" talk but that's just me.. :(

Ouch!

[JayJ79]

UNI has at least made it to the championship game, which is more than Illinois State can claim thus far. They lost during their one and only appearance in the semifinals.

[World]

UNI has at least made it to the championship game, which is more than Illinois State can claim thus far. They lost during their one and only appearance in the semifinals.

Well, thanks for the info

say, how did UNI do against Illinois State last week?

[PantherRob82]

We did so well that you are still talking about us. xlolx

[Redbird 4th & short]

Thanks SIUSalukiFan. I don't go dumpster diving for quotes, etc, but this is one of them that furthers the point. UNI fans can't have it both ways. You can't rip a team/program, and then when yours gets called out get all up in arms about it.

You lost. You're golfing. Get over it.

see page 33 of this thread

I'll bump this little sh-t show here .. I never posted once. Clenz led the charge and when he was called out verbatim by several after claiming he was never hostile or disrespectful towards ISU, he basically responded, "did not" .. and that was that .. because clenz says so .. very Trumpian of you.

Amazing how one sided he views exchanges like these .. as if he is above all of this, while he is the first to get into the mudslinging every time ... not "hostile" or "disrespectful" .. really ??

So I am not the lone common denominator who has issues with clenz .. dude, you are a narcissist. you think you are above all of this, but you live for this sh-t. I could find many many skirmishes clenz has had .. other regulars want to excuse and revere him .. you can have him .. and the suck-up that is OSBF.

I have a life .. and will be back when I decide to be back. Clenz ... post away, keep imposing your rules of engagement on the rest of us. Keep having your little hissy fits, then rip people who respond to your hissy fits .. then just say, "I am not having a hissy fit, you are .. because I say so .. I am clenz".

[Thumper 76]

see page 33 of this thread

I'll bump this little sh-t show here .. I never posted once. Clenz led the charge and when he was called out verbatim by several after claiming he was never hostile or disrespectful towards ISU, he basically responded, "did not" .. and that was that .. because clenz says so .. very Trumpian of you.

Amazing how one sided he views exchanges like these .. as if he is above all of this, while he is the first to get into the mudslinging every time ... not "hostile" or "disrespectful" .. really ??

So I am not the lone common denominator who has issues with clenz .. dude, you are a narcissist. you think you are above all of this, but you live for this sh-t. I could find many many skirmishes clenz has had .. other regulars want to excuse and revere him .. you can have him .. and the suck-up that is OSBF.

I have a life .. and will be back when I decide to be back. Clenz ... post away, keep imposing your rules of engagement on the rest of us. Keep having your little hissy fits, then rip people who respond to your hissy fits .. then just say, "I am not having a hissy fit, you are .. because I say so .. I am clenz".

Claims to have a life, while dredging up a thread from 2014 on a Sunday to try to help a little hissy fit you're having. xlolx xlolx xlolx


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[PantherRob82]

Claims to have a life, while dredging up a thread from 2014 on a Sunday to try to help a little hissy fit you're having. xlolx xlolx xlolx


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Same dude who complained that UNI fans thought we could beat them in the playoffs....on PantherNation. xlolx

[centennial]

The **** is this ****. Act like a freaking adult.

[REALBird]

The **** is this ****. Act like a freaking adult.

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