Most deserving one loss team

[ChickenMan]

Assuming Ohio St/Michigan are unbeaten when they meet next week... who would be the most deserving... one loss team to play in the BCS championship game...???

[AppGuy04]

The loser of Michigan/Ohio St would wax any of those other teams

[bison95]

Assuming Ohio St/Michigan are unbeaten when they meet next week... who would be the most deserving... one loss team to play in the BCS championship game...???

Ohio St
Michigan
Texas
Auburn
Florida
Southern Cal
Notre Dame

if Ohio St/Michigan is great game... my pick would be the loser of that one.

Texas sneaks in and plays Ohio state, just too easy of a schedule. That is if the puters don't have a rematch of the Nov.18th game:nod: :nod: :nod: With the big ten season done next week, and everyone else playing 2 more games and conference championships, I wouldn't be suprised to see the loser be "Nebraska"d" into the championship game.

[Baldy]

Better add Arkansas to that list. If they can somehow win out, very difficult to do with Tennessee this weekend and LSU to close out the season (Miss State sandwiched between the two) and beat Florida in the SEC championship game, they will be more than deserving. :nod:

Personally, I don't see it happening, but you never know.

[89Hen]

The loser of Michigan/Ohio St
I wouldn't go as far as saying they'd wax the other teams, but I think if both are undefeated and they play a close game, the loser would be the most deserving one loss team and there should be a rematch.

[BillLuc1982]

Notre Dame

[AppGuy04]

Notre Dame

are you kidding me? They allowed 26 points to a 1 win(I-AA win at that) UNC team

[BillLuc1982]

are you kidding me? They allowed 26 points to a 1 win(I-AA win at that) UNC team

Michigan nearly lost to Ball State, who lost to NDSU!

[ChickenMan]

Michigan nearly lost to Ball State, who lost to NDSU!

more important... Michigan pounded Notre Dame

[Mr. C]

If they had a playoff system, they wouldn't have to worry about this foolishness.

[AppGuy04]

Michigan nearly lost to Ball State, who lost to NDSU!

Lets see about this ND defense

47 to Michigan
37 to Michigan St
21 to Purdue
26 to UNC

they better score alot of points with that defense

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

You can argue whether or not Notre Dame deserves it or not but the only team IMO that has a better case is Florida should Michigan beat Ohio State. The final margin of the ND-Michigan game was 26 but Michigan scored a defensive TD with about 2 minutes to go when the game was over. If Ohio State beats Michigan then i think ND's case is squashed. However if Michigan beats Ohio State ND would have a major stake. Here's my reasoning.

Arkansas-lost by 36 points at home to a 2 loss USC team(assuming ND), no way in hell!!
Auburn- lost by 17 at home, struggled just as bad if not worse then ND the last month
Texas- lost by 17 to a 1 loss team (OSU) at home, who would they have beaten A&M, Neb?? ND would have better wins, USC and G-Tech. Struggled same as ND in a couple games

Florida deserves it more IMO. However ND should get in over any of the above mentioned teams.

[ucdtim17]

Everyone has close wins like ND. Cal had only one real close call. Things will work themselves out in the next 3 weeks

[Baldy]

You can argue whether or not Notre Dame deserves it or not but the only team IMO that has a better case is Florida should Michigan beat Ohio State. The final margin of the ND-Michigan game was 26 but Michigan scored a defensive TD with about 2 minutes to go when the game was over. If Ohio State beats Michigan then i think ND's case is squashed. However if Michigan beats Ohio State ND would have a major stake. Here's my reasoning.

Arkansas-lost by 36 points at home to a 2 loss USC team(assuming ND), no way in hell!!
Auburn- lost by 17 at home, struggled just as bad if not worse then ND the last month
Texas- lost by 17 to a 1 loss team (OSU) at home, who would they have beaten A&M, Neb?? ND would have better wins, USC and G-Tech. Struggled same as ND in a couple games

Florida deserves it more IMO. However ND should get in over any of the above mentioned teams.
They don't deserve it more than Auburn, considering Auburn did BEAT Florida.

[dbackjon]

Notre Dame would be the LEAST deserving......

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

They don't deserve it more than Auburn, considering Auburn did BEAT Florida.

But Auburn lost to the #10 team by 17 at home. If Michigan beats OSU ND's only loss wil be against the #1 team. I don't how anyone can say some one had a better loss when basically everyones 1 loss is bad but Florida. Cal, USC, Auburn, Texas all got rocked by atelast a 1 loss team.

Auburns Schedule
Washington State 40-14 W- Wazzu is about as good as Penn State
Mississippi St. 34-0 W- MSU is terrible, Army bad
LSU 7-3 W- Good win, LSU could be a 3 loss team(Ark.)
Buffalo 38-7 W- Buffalo is Stanford bad
South Carolina 24-17 W- USC almost won this game if you remember, USC will likely finish .500 or below.
Arkansas 27-10 L- bad loss, Arkansas lost by 36 to USC
Florida 27-17 W- One of the best wins over the year by any team
Tulane 38-13 W- bad team
Ole Miss 23-17 W- close win over real bad team
Georgia- Not very good, about as good as UCLA
Alabama- about as good as Purdue

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Notre Dame would be the LEAST deserving......

Please explain by comparing resumes. If Michigan beats Ohio State at Ohio State how is Notre Dame any more undeserving than another 1 loss team?

Arkansas lost 50-14 at home to USC
Auburn lost by 17 at home Arkansas
Texas lost by 17 at home to Ohio State
Cal lost by 17 to a 2 loss team, possibly 3 loss after this weekend

All these teams have had close calls along the way just like ND has.

[ucdtim17]

ND will finish with a top-25 SOS, which will be lower than SC, Cal and maybe Florida, but is obviously respectable by any measure. Saying they are least deserving doesn't really change the fact that they'd be 11-1 against a top schedule with an early loss to the #2 team in the country

[PenguinPride23]

As a Buckeye fan, I'd say there should NOT be a tOSU/UM rematch for the NC. The winner of that will and should likely go on to face the SEC winner, namely Florida.

Rose Bowl isn't a bad consolation for the loser ;)

[seantaylor]

Whoever comes out of the USC-Cal, USC-Notre Dame games with 1 loss should go. Those are the only offenses that will be able to do anything with either OSU/Michigan's defense. But, if Rutgers beats WVU in Morgantown, they should be in.

[bandl]

The fact that we need to have this conversation at all is the reason why I always begin to HATE I-A football this time of year. :bang:

[AZGrizFan]

Assuming Ohio St/Michigan are unbeaten when they meet next week... who would be the most deserving... one loss team to play in the BCS championship game...???

Personally, I don't think USC will BE a 1-loss team at the end, so Cal should be on the list.

I also think Rutgers runs the table....what does THAT do to the computers? xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

[AmsterBison]

Would I get called a homer if I wrote in "North Dakota State," assuming that NDSU comes up big and wins its last two games?

[UMass922]

Scratch Auburn off the list. They're getting killed by a god-awful Georgia team.

[Georgia Griz]

The most deserving one loss team would certainly be Texas 'IF' Ohio State beats Michigan. If Michigan wins that game then I would feel that Florida was the most deserving team (to face Michigan in the BCS Title Game).

[ChickenMan]

If Michigan were to beat Ohio St or Ohio St beat Michigan in close game... why would any other school be more deserving than the Ohio St/Michigan loser...???

Seems to me that if their only loss is #1 to #2... or #2 to #1... in a close game... either Ohio St or Michigan would be the logical choice.

[ucdtim17]

ND up 27-3 at halftime

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

ND up 27-3 at halftime


Somehow WVU will jump ND in the polls this week. Let's GO South Carolina!!! A Florida loss and it will be very very interesting.

[ChickenMan]

Somehow WVU will jump ND in the polls this week. Let's GO South Carolina!!! A Florida loss and it will be very very interesting.


but Notre Dame fans can still celebrate... ND will win the 'Commander-In-Chief' trophy with a victory over mighty Army next week... :rolleyes:

[blackfordpu]

Screw all of them. If Rutgers wins out give them a chance.

[ChickenMan]

If Rutgers wins at WVU... they might have a dam good case.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

but Notre Dame fans can still celebrate... ND will win the 'Commander-In-Chief' trophy with a victory over mighty Army next week... :rolleyes:

Yeah Notre Dame has a toughy next week against the Cadets but not as tough as Florida's matchup with Western Carolina. xlolx

[ngineer]

If Rutgers beats WVa in Morgantown, the deserve to get a shot at the whole enchalada..:nod:

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

If Rutgers beats WVa in Morgantown, the deserve to get a shot at the whole enchalada..:nod:

I agree if Rutgers wins out they should get in. Otherwise if it comes down to Texas, Florida and ND/USC it will be interesting. All 3 will have a legit claim.

[Peems]

USC. just by virtue if they run the table from here on out. Oregon, Cal, Notre Dame, UCLA. pretty tough schedule. though cal did lose to Arizona:eyebrow:

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Arkansas is beating lifeless(no Ainge) Tennessee 28-7 and Texas is tied with K-State at 14.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

8-1 Wake Forrest is taking is to FSU 20-0 at half
Texas is losing 21-14 at K-State, Mcoy was knocked out
Arkansas is beating Tennessee 31-7 with a few ticks left

undefeated Bosie State rallied to escaped San Jose St. 23-20

[Peems]

with all that has happened i stick by my pick of USC.

[PenguinPride23]

I'm predicting a Rutgers/Arkansas BCS bowl matchup after they run their respective tables, probably Orange... USC/ND will probably determine the other NC team obviously since I'm predicting Ark to win out and Florida's in their way.

[ChickenMan]

I agree if Rutgers wins out they should get in. Otherwise if it comes down to Texas, Florida and ND/USC it will be interesting. All 3 will have a legit claim.

Please explain the logic that would favor Florida or the ND/USC winner (Texas is gone) over the Ohio St/Michigan loser... if Ohio St/Michigan play a close game next week...???

[seantaylor]

Please explain the logic that would favor Florida or the ND/USC winner (Texas is gone) over the Ohio St/Michigan loser... if Ohio St/Michigan play a close game next week...???

Florida shouldn't be in the discussion. I agree that the OSU/Michigan loser would be the second best team in the country.

[ucdtim17]

Voters will drop the loser enough to eliminate them from the championship - no one wants to see a rematch

[ChickenMan]

Voters will drop the loser enough to eliminate them from the championship - no one wants to see a rematch

"no one wants to see a rematch"... a reasonable person might want to wait for the outcome OhioSt/Michigan game before making that statement.

If it's a great game... a lot of fans may want to see a rematch.

[Peems]

no, i wouldnt want to see a rematch. example last year ND and USC i wouldnt want to watch them play again i would rather watch a new team.

(i know its different because ND already had a loss, but im just sayin...)

[crunifan]

I agree, if the Ohio State/Michigan game turns out to be a close, exciting game, I would LOVE to see a rematch!

[Peems]

question: where is arkansas in this poll? they are definitely going to be considered especially if they beat Miss. State next week and win the SEC championship game.

[unknown-swac]

I would NOT like to see a rematch either. I hope someone gets their ass kicked so they will fall enough for that not to even be an option.

[griz37]

Don't look now but we could end up w/a Michigan-Notre Dame rematch in the championship game. If Michigan beats tOSU & Notre Dame beats USC it is a very real possibility.

[ucdtim17]

The winner of OSU-UM should not have to beat the other team again. Why even play the first game?

[LacesOut]

USC

[DinoDex200]

The winner of OSU-UM should not have to beat the other team again. Why even play the first game?

Because the next one would be at a Neutral Site...and you'd be punishing the losing team for playing the toughest team in the country on the last weekend of their season. As opposed to not punishing USC for losing to Oregon State, Florida losing to Auburn, etc.

Answer me this...if Notre Dame and Michigan both have 1-loss...and Michigan's is a close loss to OSU, then why does Notre Dame get in over a team that smoked them earlier in the year?

I know it's been said...but Arkansas is for real. You can point to their USC loss, but when you consider that McFadden was coming off an injury (and we can all agree that he is a Heisman-Caliber difference maker) and neither Casey Dick nor Mitch Mustain was playing QB, it's not a valid argument. They are an entirely different team right now.

[ChickenMan]

losing to Auburn, etc.

Answer me this...if Notre Dame and Michigan both have 1-loss...and Michigan's is a close loss to OSU, then why does Notre Dame get in over a team that smoked them earlier in the year?



because they're Notre Dame... :rolleyes:

Right now Ohio St and Michigan are by far the top two teams in the nation and if they play a great game Saturday... it would be a total injustice to move any of these lesser talented one loss teams ahead of either one. Assuming OSU/Michigan play it close... Rutgers is the only team that might have a case for being in the BSC title game. IF RU wins out (3 more wins) with a big road win at West Virginia... they would finish 12-0 and probably deserve a shot at the national title.

[dbackjon]

The winner of OSU-UM should not have to beat the other team again. Why even play the first game?

So you are TOTALLY opposed to a Michigan/Notre Dame rematch then.

After all, Michigan should not have to play ND again.

[dbackjon]

Please explain by comparing resumes. If Michigan beats Ohio State at Ohio State how is Notre Dame any more undeserving than another 1 loss team?

Arkansas lost 50-14 at home to USC
Auburn lost by 17 at home Arkansas
Texas lost by 17 at home to Ohio State
Cal lost by 17 to a 2 loss team, possibly 3 loss after this weekend

All these teams have had close calls along the way just like ND has.

Because ND has close wins to CRAPPY teams.

[ucdtim17]

Because the next one would be at a Neutral Site...and you'd be punishing the losing team for playing the toughest team in the country on the last weekend of their season. As opposed to not punishing USC for losing to Oregon State, Florida losing to Auburn, etc.

Answer me this...if Notre Dame and Michigan both have 1-loss...and Michigan's is a close loss to OSU, then why does Notre Dame get in over a team that smoked them earlier in the year?



Well that's college football my friend. Late losses matter more than early losses. ND got burned in '93 after beating #1 FSU on NOVEMBER 13TH, losing on a last second FG to BC, finishing with the same record, and not getting a chance to play for a national title. UM would be finishing with a loss to OSU and ND would be finishing with an impressive win @ (potentially) #2 USC. After what happened in '93, I won't feel sorry if ND goes over a UM team with the same record and the head-to-head win

[ucdtim17]

So you are TOTALLY opposed to a Michigan/Notre Dame rematch then.

After all, Michigan should not have to play ND again.

Different circumstances. That was week 3 - this is the last week of the season. I wouldn't particularly WANT to see it, but I wouldn't oppose it as much as a OSU-UM rematch

[ucdtim17]

Because ND has close wins to CRAPPY teams.

Great argument. What about UM holding on for dear life in the last minute against the Ball State team that NDSU beat? Or OSU beating Illinois 17-10? Or how about all those close Pac-10 wins for SC (and the bad OSU loss)? Or Florida needing 3 blocked kicks to beat South Carolina at home?

In the future it would be appreciated if you applied your logic to other teams as well as ND. Everyone has close wins. ND is 9-1 and only 2 top-10 teams have a stronger SOS (UF and USC).

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Because ND has close wins to CRAPPY teams.

Your comment makes no sense. The 1 loss teams that Notre Dame is competing against all have similar profiles. They've all had close wins against your "crappy" teams. I love when people make generalized comments about a particular team before actually looking at the facts.

Florida- beat 5-5 South Carolina by a single point, beat Vanderbilt (4-7) by 6.
Arkansas- beat 4-7 Vanderbilt by 1 beat 6-5 Alabama by 1
Notre Dame- beat 5-5 UCLA by 3, beat 4-7 Michigan State by 3

[ChickenMan]

Well that's college football my friend. Late losses matter more than early losses. ND got burned in '93 after beating #1 FSU on NOVEMBER 13TH, losing on a last second FG to BC, finishing with the same record, and not getting a chance to play for a national title. UM would be finishing with a loss to OSU and ND would be finishing with an impressive win @ (potentially) #2 USC. After what happened in '93, I won't feel sorry if ND goes over a UM team with the same record and the head-to-head win

slight difference... Boston College was NOT unbeaten and the #1 ranked team in nation when they beat ND in South Bend in '93. In fact BC wasn't even rated in the Top 15 at the time of their win over ND...

Apples & Oranges...

[ucdtim17]

slight difference... Boston College was NOT unbeaten and the #1 ranked team in nation when they beat ND in South Bend in '93. In fact BC wasn't even rated in the Top 15 at the time of their win over ND...

Apples & Oranges...

Well it's also different in the opposite direction in that it happened 2 months later in the season.

[ChickenMan]

Michigan... the BCS... who cares... all ND fans know that the real news is that Notre Dame will take the Commander-In-Chief trophy with a win vs them mighty Army Cadets this Saturday... :p

[ucdtim17]

Michigan... the BCS... who cares... all ND fans know that the real news is that Notre Dame will take the Commander-In-Chief trophy with a win vs them mighty Army Cadets this Saturday... :p

And Florida will be 1-0 in SoCon play this year :rolleyes:

[SunCoastBlueHen]

I would much rather see the OSU / Michigan winner play either a one loss USC team or a one loss SEC champion for the national title than have a rematch between the two. Some seem to think that Ohio State and Michigan are head and shoulders above the rest of the teams in the country. Making that statement is the same as saying the Big 10 is by far the best conference this year. I just don't see it that way. I think the Big 10 is very top heavy this season and not a top two conference top to bottom.

IMO, USC or the SEC champion will have played an overall tougher schedule and will be more deserving of a National Championship appearance than the #2 Big 10 team.

[Purple Pride]

I know it's been said...but Arkansas is for real. You can point to their USC loss, but when you consider that McFadden was coming off an injury (and we can all agree that he is a Heisman-Caliber difference maker) and neither Casey Dick nor Mitch Mustain was playing QB, it's not a valid argument. They are an entirely different team right now.

You got that right, DD200. They're gonna have to be added to this poll at some point, maybe after this weekend.:thumbsup:

WOOOOOOOO....PIG SOOIE!!:hurray:

[unknown-swac]

Well I was always told...the season starts with game one...ready or not.