Sports Network Poll; Nov. 3rd

[kdinva]

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/cfoot225poll.aspx




1.
North Dakota State Bison (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=713) (164)
9-0
4100
1


2.
New Hampshire Wildcats (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=556)
7-1
3858
2


3.
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsouth/teamsn.aspx?id=850)
9-0
3796
3


4.
Jacksonville State Gamecocks (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/ovc/teamsn.aspx?id=669)
7-1
3584
5


5.
Eastern Washington Eagles (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=489)
8-2
3389
6


6.
McNeese State Cowboys (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southland/teamsn.aspx?id=536)
6-2
2965
9


7.
Villanova Wildcats (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=643)
7-2
2883
4


8.
Richmond Spiders (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=587)
7-2
2839
13


9.
Fordham Rams (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/patriot/teamsn.aspx?id=646)
8-1
2786
10


10.
Youngstown State Penguins (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=641)
7-2
2504
11


11.
Montana Grizzlies (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=548)
6-3
2271
12


12.
Illinois State Redbirds (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=514)
7-1
2242
7


13.
Chattanooga Mocs (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southern/teamsn.aspx?id=606)
6-3
2078
13


14.
Southeastern Louisiana Lions (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/southland/teamsn.aspx?id=848)
6-3
1863
15


15.
Montana State Bobcats (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=549)
6-3
1803
8


16.
Eastern Kentucky Colonels (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/ovc/teamsn.aspx?id=494)
8-1
1801
16


17.
Indiana State Sycamores (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=516)
6-3
1334
19


18.
Harvard Crimson (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/ivy/teamsn.aspx?id=506)
7-0
1129
20


19.
Northern Iowa Panthers (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=568)
5-4
1088
22


20.
Bethune-Cookman Wildcats (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/meac/teamsn.aspx?id=466)
7-2
905
21


21.
Cal Poly Mustangs (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=500)
6-3
783
NR


22.
South Dakota State Jackrabbits (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/gateway/teamsn.aspx?id=V36)
5-4
658
18


23.
Bryant Bulldogs (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/nec/teamsn.aspx?id=771)
7-1
495
25


24.
William & Mary Tribe (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/colonial/teamsn.aspx?id=637)
5-4
391
17


25.
Northern Arizona Lumberjacks (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/conf/bigsky/teamsn.aspx?id=566)
6-3
322
NR


Others receiving votes: James Madison 290, Liberty 279, Southern Illinois 167, Sam Houston State 115, Albany 104, North Carolina A&T 74, Bucknell 68, South Carolina State 55, Grambling State 53, Idaho State 44, Stephen F. Austin 42, Alcorn State 38, Yale 23, Western Carolina 20, Samford 10, Sacred Heart 9, Wofford 9, Lamar 9, Missouri State 7, Jacksonville 6, Charleston Southern 5, Southeast Missouri State 3, Delaware 3.

[JMU2004]

Jeez, that poll is miserable. JMU receiving 100 less points than the team they just BEAT? Richmond BEHIND Villanova?

Sports network's slide into obscurity just accelerates every year.

[bluehenbillk]

Agreed Richmond should be ahead of Nova. SDSU & W&M should not be ranked - why is EKU so low?

[TypicalTribe]

This poll is just terrible. McNeese at 6? Fordham at 9? Montana at 11, ahead of Illinois State? Bethune ranked at all? W&M still ranked, and ahead of JMU? How can that many voters produce such a bad poll?

[knucklehead]

Complete Joke! Richmond behind Viallanova? Liberty? Bryant ahead of Liberty? W&M over JMU and still in? Unreal.

[dewey]

Illinois State drops to #12 because of a loss at UNI? Villanova before Richmond? Cal Poly at 21? Montana at 11 and Montana State at 15?

Here is the poll from one of NDSU beat reporters.
http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/
1 North Dakota State (9-0, beat SDSU) * FBS win Previous: 1
2 Coastal Carolina (9-0, beat Gardner-Webb) Previous: 3
3 New Hampshire (7-1, beat Albany) Previous: 4
4 Eastern Washington (8-2, beat UND) Previous: 6
5 Villanova (7-2, lost to Richmond) Previous: 2
6 Jacksonville State (7-1, beat Austin Peay) Previous: 7
7McNeese State (6-2, beat NW State) Previous: 9
8 Richmond (7-2, beat Villanova) Previous: 13
9 Illinois State (7-1, lost to UNI) Previous: 5
10 Fordham (8-1, beat Colgate) Previous: 10
11 Southeastern Louisiana (6-3, BYE week) Previous: 11
12 Eastern Kentucky (8-1, beat Tenn St)*FBS win Previous: 12
13 Youngstown State (7-2, beat South Dakota) Previous: 14
14 Montana State (6-3, lost to Cal Poly) Previous: 8
15 Montana (6-3, beat Sacramento St) Previous: 15
16 Bethune-Cookman (7-2, beat NC Central)*FBS Previous: 16
17 Chattanooga (6-3, beat Western Carolina) Previous: 17
18 Indiana State (6-3, beat Mo State)*FBS win Previous: 18
19 Northern Iowa (5-4, beat Illinois St) Previous: 22
20 Liberty (6-3, beat Presbyterian) *FBS win Previous: 19
21 Cal Poly (6-3, beat Montana State) Previous: 23
22 Northern Arizona (6-3, beat Weber State) Previous: 22
23 Harvard (7-0, beat Dartmouth) Previous: 25
24 James Madison (6-3, beat W&M) Previous: Unranked
25 South Dakota State (5-4, lost to NDSU) Previous: 20
- See more at: http://bisonmedia.areavoices.com/#sthash.DgxhQc4N.dpuf

Dewey

[knucklehead]

Not sure who all is so clueless. Not Chris Lang. Here's his ballot. http://www.newsadvance.com/sports/liberty_university/chris_lang_blog/liberty-presbyterian-sunday-wrap/article_d4e69826-62a1-11e4-82f4-0017a43b2370.html




North Dakota State

New Hampshire

Coastal Carolina

Jacksonville State

Richmond

Eastern Washington

Villanova

Illinois State

Fordham

Youngstown State

McNeese State

Chattanooga

Indiana State

Cal Poly

Eastern Kentucky

Montana State

Harvard

South Dakota State

Montana

Liberty

Southeastern Louisiana

James Madison

Northern Iowa

Northern Arizona

Bryant

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I'm not taking that much away from the Richmond-Villanova game other than it was two really good teams playing in ugly conditions. If the two teams played next week would anyone be comfortable picking one team over the other? I wouldn't. I will say my confidence in Coach Rocco has gone up. Before Saturday, what was his biggest win?

Come December I'll still push my chips towards 'Nova.....

[lionsrking2]

Not sure who all is so clueless. Not Chris Lang. Here's his ballot. http://www.newsadvance.com/sports/liberty_university/chris_lang_blog/liberty-presbyterian-sunday-wrap/article_d4e69826-62a1-11e4-82f4-0017a43b2370.html

His is just as bad.

[knucklehead]

His is just as bad.

UM, what am I missing? It's way better than the final poll and pretty spot on.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Cal Poly made about a 500 point jump. And MSU made about a 900 point drop.

Not sure what all that means though.

[Nova09]

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH RICHMOND AHEAD OF NOVA AND DON'T DO A POLL SO DON'T ASK HOW I RANKED THEM

Ok, disclaimer out of the way, why are people flipping out about two teams being back to back but maybe one should be above the other and the one in 2nd beat the first but they were at home and the conditions were strange and it was only a one point win

Nothing about that game proved UR is better than Nova. Nothing proved Nova is better, either. Again, I have no problem. Just don't see why people are so worked up when really if you watched that game you would conclude that the teams should be ranked roughly the same and it's just personal opinion which is better.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM WITH RICHMOND AHEAD OF NOVA AND DON'T DO A POLL SO DON'T ASK HOW I RANKED THEM

Ok, disclaimer out of the way, why are people flipping out about two teams being back to back but maybe one should be above the other and the one in 2nd beat the first but they were at home and the conditions were strange and it was only a one point win

Nothing about that game proved UR is better than Nova. Nothing proved Nova is better, either. Again, I have no problem. Just don't see why people are so worked up when really if you watched that game you would conclude that the teams should be ranked roughly the same and it's just personal opinion which is better.

Well if you have two teams that are even and one of those teams beat the other...even though they are very equal then why would the team that won the game be the one of the two which gets the penalty rank of the two spots?

Now do I think it's a big deal? Absolutely not. It just doesn't work out in the logic area is all.

[Nova09]

Well if you have two teams that are even and one of those teams beat the other...even though they are very equal then why would the team that won the game be the one of the two which gets the penalty rank of the two spots?

Now do I think it's a big deal? Absolutely not. It just doesn't work out in the logic area is all.

Or you could argue that if they played at Nova or even neutral, Nova would have won. I'm not making that argument, but it's a perfectly logical one.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Or you could argue that if they played at Nova or even neutral, Nova would have won. I'm not making that argument, but it's a perfectly logical one.

Yes it is but since we only have what happened to deal with I think one should be expected to deal with that...until the other thing actually takes place.

[Nova09]

Yes it is but since we only have what happened to deal with I think one should be expected to deal with that...until the other thing actually takes place.

And I have no problem with Richmond getting that benefit. You even said yourself you don't think it's a big deal, so I don't know why we're talking about this as my post was directly responding to people who thinks it's absolutely ridiculous for Nova to be ranked ahead of Richmond.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

And I have no problem with Richmond getting that benefit. You even said yourself you don't think it's a big deal, so I don't know why we're talking about this as my post was directly responding to people who thinks it's absolutely ridiculous for Nova to be ranked ahead of Richmond.

I don't think it's a big deal, you got that right. I'm directly responding to you because you wanted an explanation so I was trying to provide one. That's why we're talking about this.

[citdog]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: New Hampshire Wildcats
3: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Richmond Spiders
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Youngstown State Penguins
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: McNeese State Cowboys
10: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
11: Indiana State Sycamores
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Fordham Rams
15: Cal Poly Mustangs
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
18: Liberty Flames
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Montana State Bobcats
21: Southern Illinois Salukis
22: Idaho State Bengals
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: James Madison Dukes
25: Bryant Bulldogs

[Cleets]

1: North Dakota State Bison
2: New Hampshire Wildcats
3: Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
4: Jacksonville State Gamecocks
5: Richmond Spiders
6: Eastern Washington Eagles
7: Youngstown State Penguins
8: Villanova Wildcats
9: McNeese State Cowboys
10: Eastern Kentucky Colonels
11: Indiana State Sycamores
12: Illinois State Redbirds
13: Montana Grizzlies
14: Fordham Rams
15: Cal Poly Mustangs
16: Chattanooga Mocs
17: Southeastern Louisiana Lions
18: Liberty Flames
19: Northern Iowa Panthers
20: Montana State Bobcats
21: Southern Illinois Salukis
22: Idaho State Bengals
23: South Dakota State Jackrabbits
24: James Madison Dukes
25: Bryant Bulldogs



This ^

a thousand times this

[kalm]

This ^

a thousand times this

Eastern Washington is over-rated.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

This ^

a thousand times this

If CP and Montana were switched I'd be on that bandwagon as well but I'm nitpicking a bit. I'd put the AGS/FCS Wedge ballot up against anyone else that votes in that poll. cit does a good job with it.

He's also sharp enough to not turn the ballot in over there until his ballot here is vetted so any problems can be eradicated by Team AGS Poll.:D

[McNeese72]

McNeese is way overrated, especially with how beat up we are right now.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Good Gosh....we're at number 6? What the **** are those people smoking? We barely, and I mean BARELY got by Northwestern. If they'd have any any offensive performance in the first half, they'd have won....and we moved up after that crappy performance? We're not a top 10 team right now....I'm not sure I'd have us in the top 20....

[Nickels]

Good Gosh....we're at number 6? What the **** are those people smoking? We barely, and I mean BARELY got by Northwestern. If they'd have any any offensive performance in the first half, they'd have won....and we moved up after that crappy performance? We're not a top 10 team right now....I'm not sure I'd have us in the top 20....
No SLC team is top 20 IMO