Greatest AA Quarterback?

[Peems]

i think everyone knows who my vote goes to.

[AppGuy04]

this year or all time?

[89Hen]

McNair

[Go...gate]

I second - McNair.

[Ivytalk]

No love for Rich Gannon?

[mcveyrl]

I have to go
McNair then Gannon

[89Hen]

No love for Rich Gannon?
Didn't want to be a homer. :smiley_wi

[AppGuy04]

Richie Williams

JK

McNair easily

[Peems]

this year or all time?


all time

[Retro]

If were talking about what they did in college only and againest top competition, i have to give a nod to Kerry Joseph!

Mcnair did great also..

[catbob]

Neil Lomax.

[Retro]

Was Portland State I-AA when lomax played?

[GreenDay17]

Portland State was DII (you know, like Chadron):D when Lomax played.

[CopperCat]

what about travis lulay or erik meyer? they certainly carried their teams quite a few times.

[CopperCat]

i think everyone knows who my vote goes to.

I agree peems, he was one of the all time greats.

[catbob]

It said he held 90 IAA records on this website I looked at, so I assumed he was there for at least one year.

[Peems]

i could agree that meyer and lulay definitely deserve to be in the conversation. meyer because of the sheer numbers he put up and lulay because of his ability to win. the bobcats were never out of game with him at the helm.

[crunifan]

Meyer was awesome! He had me scared at the UNI-Dome last year. That was a huge shoot-out.

[catbob]

PSU was I-AA from 1978-1980, when Lomax played.

[GreenDay17]

PSU was I-AA from 1978-1980, when Lomax played.

I wasn't aware of that. Did they then return to DII? Because they last became 1-AA in 1996.

[blueballs]

You can't really say who is the best because it is all speculation and teams ran different offenses that asked different things of the position.

These are the guys I would put in the discussion: Dave Dickinson, Tracy Ham, Willie Totten, Kerry Joseph, Raymond Gross, Steve McNair, Rich Gannon, Neil Lomax, Bruce Eugene.

Those are my 9...

[Go...gate]

I always thought Brunner was very good, maybe better than Gannon. He was sure great in '79.

[GreenDay17]

I think it is probably McNair although Dave Dickenson is the best I have ever personally seen - like he was born with a solid gold horseshoe.

Others to consider - Culpepper (although he finished 1A) and Jamie Martin at Weber State (one year against Montana State - 92 I think - I swear he didn't throw a single uncatchable ball in something like 45 attempts).

[catbob]

According to http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/bigsky/portland_state/index.php

1947-1957 No Classification
1958-1972 NCAA College Division (Small College)
1973-1977 NCAA Division II
1978-1980 NCAA Division I-AA
1981-1997 NCAA Division II
1998-20XX NCAA Division I-AA

[PaladinFan]

No Ingle Martin? Come on now.

[GreenDay17]

According to http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/bigsky/portland_state/index.php

1947-1957 No Classification
1958-1972 NCAA College Division (Small College)
1973-1977 NCAA Division II
1978-1980 NCAA Division I-AA
1981-1997 NCAA Division II
1998-20XX NCAA Division I-AA

Just learned something new - thanks for the info!! Now I'll have to do some research to see why they returned to DII.

[Longhorn]

As long as a short list is being compiled, might as well add Kurt Warner's name too...McNair gets my vote tho.

[bigbluetiger]

Joe "747" Adams

http://www.tennessean.com/galleries/2005/sports/merritt200thwin/images/merritt200th09.jpg

[gatadotcom]

Tracy Ham!

[Peems]

jamie martin is definitely a deserving person. i mean when you hold records in the big sky thats something.

[JMU_MRD'03-'07]

No Ingle Martin? Come on now.

We might see him if Farve retires and the second stringer gets hurt... xlolx

[seantaylor]

Greg Hill has to be in the discussion.

[Sawtooth]

John Friesz (Idaho, 1987 to 1989)

[Chucktown]

tony romo

[patssle]

Rhett Bomar xlolx xlolx

Glad we had the opportunity to BEAT McNair on national TV!

[dbackjon]

Jeff Lewis from NAU has to be in the discussion - part of the only 3,000 yard passing/2,000 yard rushing tandem EVER in NCAA football.


Greg Wyatt in the 80's was being touted by ESPN as a potential Heisman candidate before he was injured.

[Dallas Demon]

According to http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_iaa/bigsky/portland_state/index.php

1947-1957 No Classification
1958-1972 NCAA College Division (Small College)
1973-1977 NCAA Division II
1978-1980 NCAA Division I-AA
1981-1997 NCAA Division II
1998-20XX NCAA Division I-AA

I believe this is incorrect with regards to 1978-1980 as Division I-AA. I absolutely know for sure in 1980 they were Division II. Speaking of which, Bobby Hebert deserves some votes. A Bobby Hebert led team in 1980 beat a Neal Lomax lead team 40-21. Although I admit Lomax was very, very good.

[PaladinFan]

We might see him if Farve retires and the second stringer gets hurt... xlolx

Which is a heckuva lot closer than any JMU qbs are getting to playing time in the NFL.

[Peems]

Jeff Lewis from NAU has to be in the discussion - part of the only 3,000 yard passing/2,000 yard rushing tandem EVER in NCAA football.


Greg Wyatt in the 80's was being touted by ESPN as a potential Heisman candidate before he was injured.


not even gonna bring up murietta?

[Bisonforlife]

I really liked Bruce Eugene:nod:

[Peems]

I really liked Bruce Eugene:nod:

numbers wise you have to like eugene. and man he made those unis look tight(literally)

[Bisonforlife]

numbers wise you have to like eugene. and man he made those unis look tight(literally)
You have to love those quarterbacks who are built like linebackers:D

[Delaware Ghostrider II]

McNair and Gannon hands down:hurray:

[DB_Atlantic10]

Gannon.....

[Baldy]

Tracy Ham......and then everyone else.

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Not even close. STEVE AIR 2 McNair

[PIRATETIZED1]

Since I'm 'Ole School.....

B4 McNair, I liked "Jefferson Street" Joe Gilliam & Doug Williams....!

But as we all know, records are made to be broken!!!!!

PIRATETIZED :cool:
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[monmouthhawk]

Neil Lomax was a freak for Portland State. Mcnair was not as good as Lomax was at least in college.

[HIU 93]

Are we forgetting Willie "Satellite" Totten?

[SunCoastBlueHen]

No I-AA QB ever got national attention like McNair. Even your typical I-A only fan knew who Air McNair was.

[BillLuc1982]

McNair -- closest I-AA player to getting a Heisman

[Reed Rothchild]

As long as a short list is being compiled, might as well add Kurt Warner's name too...

Warner has had a great NFL career, but he isn't even the 3rd best QB in UNI history.

[Dabnus Brickey]

Did anyone talk about Phil Simms?

[SunCoastBlueHen]

Did anyone talk about Phil Simms?

Pretty sure Morehead St. was DII when Simms played.

[89Hen]

I believe this is incorrect with regards to 1978-1980 as Division I-AA. I absolutely know for sure in 1980 they were Division II.
FWIW...

http://www.goviks.com/images/hfneil_lomax.jpg

BTW, I had no idea that PSU was I-AA then either.

[monmouthhawk]

Considering Santos is a JR...he is a great football player so I may put him over Lomax and Mcnair as top college I-AA QB in the near future.

[GannonFan]

I always thought Brunner was very good, maybe better than Gannon. He was sure great in '79.

Eh? Sacrilege!!!!! Brunner had a great team in 1979 - Rich Gannon played at UD at a time when talent had drained at UD - the mid 80's were not great for Blue Hen football - but he single handidly made them into a respectable team. I have a DVD of the 1986 season - Gannon was a man among boys - incredibly fast and a rocket for an arm. Gannon gets my pick for best ever (although you can't ignore McNair obviously).

[grayghost06]

Phil Simms' last season, 1978, Morehead had just moved to DI-AA. Since he graduated as a IAA quarterback, I give him my vote, though largely for his pro performance rather than his college stats. I would vote McNair second and throw in Stan Humphries for 3rd. His last minute drive to defeat Marshall in the '87 championship game was something special. And he did take San Diego to a Super Bowl game too.

[LacesOut]

McNair.

[citdog]

If the criteria is how a I-AA QB did against top competition then there is no doubt that the best I-AA QB of all time is Jack Douglas of The Citadel, 1988-92. With a 4-0 record against I-A competition i don't think anyone else is even close.

[89Hen]

If the criteria is how a I-AA QB did against top competition then there is no doubt that the best I-AA QB of all time is Jack Douglas of The Citadel, 1988-92. With a 4-0 record against I-A competition i don't think anyone else is even close.
Rich Gannon was 4-0 vs I-A 1984-86.

BTW, El Cid lost to Duke in 1988 and to Air Force in 1990. Did he not play those games?

[Freightliner]

How bout Stan Humphries and Bubby Brister? from LA-Monroe (back when they were I-AA.)

xlolx xlolx xlolx

[citdog]

Well Gannon and Douglas then! One a drop back guy and the other a wishbone QB, if you put them together what a fine looking QB!

[grayghost06]

Eh? Sacrilege!!!!! Brunner had a great team in 1979 - Rich Gannon played at UD at a time when talent had drained at UD - the mid 80's were not great for Blue Hen football - but he single handidly made them into a respectable team. I have a DVD of the 1986 season - Gannon was a man among boys - incredibly fast and a rocket for an arm. Gannon gets my pick for best ever (although you can't ignore McNair obviously).......Well your fellow blue hen poster just said Gannon was 4-0 against IA competition from 84-86. If this was during the "talent drained years" you guys sure did well against the big boys.

[GannonFan]

......Well your fellow blue hen poster just said Gannon was 4-0 against IA competition from 84-86. If this was during the "talent drained years" you guys sure did well against the big boys.

Gannon was a stud, that's why. We also only made one playoff during that entire tenure so we lost a few games as well.

[89Hen]

......Well your fellow blue hen poster just said Gannon was 4-0 against IA competition from 84-86. If this was during the "talent drained years" you guys sure did well against the big boys.
Was a strange time for Blue Hen football. In 1985 the Hens were 2-0 vs I-A's (both games in Newark) but didn't even make the playoffs. One of those wins was against a Navy squad with Napoleon McCallum who was being hyped for the Heisman... until that game that is. :p

[RadMann]

Brunner played at UD when UD was in Division II. He was a very good QB and started in the NFL but he was not really at the level of Gannon. Gannon graduated in my class (man we are getting old) and he was really something to watch. He could evade tacklers with really quick moves. I have seen few QBs at any level make plays like he could make especially running the ball.

McNair, Gannon and Warner have all won the NFL MVP award so they are all solid QBs.... Below is Gannon (on right) with Keeler and Tubby...

http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2004/RaymondGala21lg.jpg

[citdog]

Rich Gannon was 4-0 vs I-A 1984-86.

BTW, El Cid lost to Duke in 1988 and to Air Force in 1990. Did he not play those games?

Douglas was the QB during Citadel victories over Navy, Army, Arkansas, and The University of South Carolina.

[Death Dealer]

Sam Wyche...blast from the past.

[89Hen]

Douglas was the QB during Citadel victories over Navy, Army, Arkansas, and The University of South Carolina.
I'm off somewhere in years and record...

1988 - win over Navy, loss to Duke
1989 - win over Navy
1990 - win over SC, loss to Air Force
1991 - win over Army
1992 - wins over Army and Arkansas

Which years did he play?

[YoUDeeMan]

Eh? Sacrilege!!!!! Brunner had a great team in 1979 - Rich Gannon played at UD at a time when talent had drained at UD - the mid 80's were not great for Blue Hen football - but he single handidly made them into a respectable team. I have a DVD of the 1986 season - Gannon was a man among boys - incredibly fast and a rocket for an arm. Gannon gets my pick for best ever (although you can't ignore McNair obviously).

Can't forget one of our other pro quarterbacks - Jeff Komlo. Although he played D-II, he is still showing some tricky moves....the cops can't catch him! xlolx

[Franks Tanks]

Jay Fiedler from......Dartmouth, Chris Berman's boy had a pretty decent NFL career.

[BULLDOG8180]

I'm off somewhere in years and record...

1988 - win over Navy, loss to Duke
1989 - win over Navy
1990 - win over SC, loss to Air Force
1991 - win over Army
1992 - wins over Army and Arkansas

Which years did he play?


I think Citdog only counted the ones we one. Actually, Jack played from 1989-1992 and he was 5-1 against 1A competition.

A QB named Gene Brown qb'd in 1988 and he could play too.