Coaches Poll Week 6

[penguinpower]

Does anyone know the official source for the coaches poll? I didn't see it posted and was wondering about it

[JSUBison]

The SoCon puts it out. Fair warning, what has been seen can not be unseen.

http://www.soconsports.com/fls/4000/socon/FCS/polls/2014_FCS_Coaches_Poll/index.html

ISU-B, the Rodney Dangerfield of FCS.

[skinny_uncle]

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/tsn-div-1aa-poll.htm

[skinny_uncle]

Here is the abomination for this week for those to lazy to click a link.



The Sports Network FCS Top-25 College Football Poll



Team (First-place votes)
Record
Points
Previous Rank


1. North Dakota State Bison (153)
5-0
3,897
1


2. Eastern Washington Eagles (3)
5-1
3,725
2


3. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
6-0
3,413
3


4. New Hampshire Wildcats
4-1
3,355
4


5. McNeese State Cowboys
3-1
3,212
5


6. Villanova Wildcats
4-1
3,186
6


7. Montana Grizzlies
4-2
2,870
7


8. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
4-1
2,866
8


9. Southeastern Louisiana Lions
4-2
2,411
11


10. William & Mary Tribe
4-1
2,141
12


11. Montana State Bobcats
4-2
1,974
13


12. Southern Illinois Salukis
5-1
1,954
15


13. Chattanooga Mocs
3-2
1,776
14


14. Fordham Rams
5-1
1,684
16


15. Illinois State Redbirds
4-0
1,570
22


16. Youngstown State Penguins
4-1
1,485
18


17. Eastern Kentucky Colonels
5-0
1,396
19


18. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats
4-1
1,393
17


19. South Dakota State Jackrabbits
3-2
1,248
9


20. Indiana State Sycamores
4-1
1,175
25


21. Northern Iowa Panthers
2-3
1,095
19


22. Richmond Spiders
3-2
1,048
20


23. Southeast Missouri State Redhawks
4-2
397
NR


24. Charleston Southern Buccaneers
5-0
325
NR


25. Tennessee State Tigers
4-2
158
21

[skinny_uncle]

I am a bit baffled by SELA being 14 spots ahead of a team who beat them.

[skinny_uncle]

Sorry but I posted the wrong one. That was the TSN poll.




FCS Coaches Poll


No.
School
Record
Points
Prev


1
North Dakota State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/NDST/north-dakota-state-bison) (25)
5-0
649
1


2
Eastern Washington (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/EWASH/eastern-washington-eagles) (1)
5-1
621
2


3
Coastal Carolina (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/CSTCAR/coastal-carolina-chanticleers)
6-0
587
3


4
McNeese State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/MCN/mcneese-state-cowboys)
3-1
566
4


5
Villanova (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/NOVA/villanova-wildcats)
4-1
546
5


6
New Hampshire (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/NH/new-hampshire-wildcats)
4-1
522
6


7
Montana (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/MT/montana-grizzlies)
4-2
491
7


8
Jacksonville State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/JAXST/jacksonville-state-gamecocks)
4-1
479
8


9
Southeastern Louisiana (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/SELOU/southeastern-louisiana-lions)
4-2
421
11


10
Youngstown State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/YST/youngstown-state-penguins)
4-1
395
12


11
William & Mary (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/WMMARY/william-mary-tribe)
4-1
372
13


12
Chattanooga (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/TNCHAT/chattanooga-mocs)
3-2
324
14


13
Southern Illinois (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/SIL/southern-illinois-salukis)
5-1
311
16


14
Montana State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/MTST/montana-state-bobcats)
4-2
277
15


15
Illinois State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/ILST/illinois-state-redbirds)
4-0
255
22


16
Eastern Kentucky (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/EKY/eastern-kentucky-colonels)
5-0
252
18


17
Bethune-Cookman (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/BTHN/bethune-cookman-wildcats)
4-1
227
17


18
Fordham (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/FORD/fordham-rams)
5-1
205
19


19
South Dakota State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/SDST/south-dakota-state-jackrabbits)
3-2
184
9


20
Richmond (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/RICH/richmond-spiders)
3-2
168
21


21
Northern Iowa (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/NOIOWA/northern-iowa-panthers)
2-3
166
10


22
Indiana State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/INST/indiana-state-sycamores)
4-1
126
30


23
Charleston Southern (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/CHARSO/charleston-southern-buccaneers)
5-0
103
24


24
Alcorn State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/ALCORN/alcorn-state-braves)
5-1
45
26


25
Tennessee State (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/teams/page/TNST/tennessee-state-tigers)
4-2
36
20



- - - Updated - - -
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/full

Regardless, SELA is still too high. SEMO being ranked behind The Tennessee State team they just beat is a bit baffling, too.

[lionsrking2]

I am a bit baffled by SELA being 14 spots ahead of a team who beat them.

I'm not baffled by it all, other than if you get hung up on the head-to-head thing and don't take into account all factors. No disrespect meant to SEMO - they played inspired football and took advantage of opportunities on that particular night - but if we played 10 times, we'd beat them nine. That said, I wouldn't fault anyone for ranking them over us because what happens on the field has to count for something. I hope they win out and win the OVC.

[MTfan4life]

Towson received one vote and Northern Arizona received three. This is embarrassing and yet many uninformed people will see this poll as the only poll. They really need to start publishing each person's ballot. Make these people more accountable for how they are voting.

[Nickels]

they played inspired football and took advantage of opportunities on that particular night.
They beat you. They're the better team. Get over it.

[PAllen]

I'm not baffled by it all, other than if you get hung up on the head-to-head thing and don't take into account all factors. No disrespect meant to SEMO - they played inspired football and took advantage of opportunities on that particular night - but if we played 10 times, we'd beat them nine. That said, I wouldn't fault anyone for ranking them over us because what happens on the field has to count for something. I hope they win out and win the OVC.

Yeah, becasue that thing that happens on the field between the opening kickoff and the end of the game isn't that important. xrolleyesx

[catamount man]

I've always thought the first polls should come out mid-season. Just me.

[skinny_uncle]

I've always thought the first polls should come out mid-season. Just me.

That would make too much sense. They start before the season starts now just so we can have something to argue about.

[Cocky]

I'm not baffled by it all, other than if you get hung up on the head-to-head thing and don't take into account all factors. No disrespect meant to SEMO - they played inspired football and took advantage of opportunities on that particular night - but if we played 10 times, we'd beat them nine. That said, I wouldn't fault anyone for ranking them over us because what happens on the field has to count for something. I hope they win out and win the OVC.

SEMO just led most of the game and had a 15 play 80 yd drive to finish and win the game. Sounds like a team outclassed. Both teams got a short TD and had 2 TOs.

[centennial]

This poll is a complete dumpster fire.

[OhioHen]

This poll is a complete dumpster fire.

Yet 23 of the 25 teams in the coaches poll Top 25 are in the AGS poll Top 25. Both others are in the AGS ORV and vice versa.

It looks like the biggest "problem" (Villanova at 6 notwithstanding) with the coaches poll is that it undervalues the MVFC relative to AGS. The four teams with the greatest disparity in this direction are Indiana State, Missouri State, Southern Illinois, and Illinois State. Most overvalued relative to AGS - Chattanooga, Bethune-Cookman, Montana State, and Southeastern Louisiana.

[McNeese75]

Yet 23 of the 25 teams in the coaches poll Top 25 are in the AGS poll Top 25. Both others are in the AGS ORV and vice versa.

It looks like the biggest "problem" (Villanova at 6 notwithstanding) with the coaches poll is that it undervalues the MVFC relative to AGS. The four teams with the greatest disparity in this direction are Indiana State, Missouri State, Southern Illinois, and Illinois State. Most overvalued relative to AGS - Chattanooga, Bethune-Cookman, Montana State, and Southeastern Louisiana.

And why do you think there is a disparity in the way the MVFC is viewed by AGS voters and the coaches poll? Baaazinga, could it possibly be due to the makeup of the voters in each poll and the slight possibility of homerism? xeyebrowx

[gotts]

And why do you think there is a disparity in the way the MVFC is viewed by AGS voters and the coaches poll? Baaazinga, could it possibly be due to the makeup of the voters in each poll and the slight possibility of homerism? xeyebrowx

Uhh, I don't think this is a path that we need to go down..... again....

[lionsrking2]

SEMO just led most of the game and had a 15 play 80 yd drive to finish and win the game. Sounds like a team outclassed. Both teams got a short TD and had 2 TOs.

You apparently didn't watch the game.

[PAllen]

And why do you think there is a disparity in the way the MVFC is viewed by AGS voters and the coaches poll? Baaazinga, could it possibly be due to the makeup of the voters in each poll and the slight possibility of homerism? xeyebrowx

xflaggedx

Come on M75, you've been around long enough to know that now that App St. and GSU are gone, everyone in the MVFC is infinitely better than anyone else in the country. With the possible exception being The Citadel which is far superior to to any of the teams in the yankee scum leagues. They'd prove it too, if they could ever win enough games in the vaunted SoCon to make the playoffs.

[gotts]

xflaggedx

Come on M75, you've been around long enough to know that now that App St. and GSU are gone, everyone in the MVFC is infinitely better than anyone else in the country. With the possible exception being The Citadel which is far superior to to any of the teams in the yankee scum leagues. They'd prove it too, if they could ever win enough games in the vaunted SoCon to make the playoffs.

Hot sports takes!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

And why do you think there is a disparity in the way the MVFC is viewed by AGS voters and the coaches poll? Baaazinga, could it possibly be due to the makeup of the voters in each poll and the slight possibility of homerism? xeyebrowx

I've shown proof enough now on the fallacy of the homerism claim for the AGS Poll so you'll forgive me if I just let you be wrong on that one this time.

[McNeese75]

I've shown proof enough now on the fallacy of the homerism claim for the AGS Poll so you'll forgive me if I just let you be wrong on that one this time.

So, no such thing as East coast bias? Corn Country Control? Southern speed? no homerism at all? xscanx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

So, no such thing as East coast bias? Corn Country Control? Southern speed? no homerism at all? xscanx

Are you telling me you haven't seen the results I've put forth showing how each conference votes and how it relates to each other? If anything, each conference actually devalues their own teams as a rule. The MVFC voters are the only ones that actually have their teams around the same area as the rest of the pollsters do.

The homer call that some want to roll with could be applied to an individual here and there but as grouped by conferences...it's bull****. I don't know what you'd have to base it on really to make the claim except that you can see what a few voters post once in a while I guess?

The one specific reason I added the question "which conference" was so I could easily pull votes and test to see how groups are voting once in a while.

[McNeese75]

Just yanking your chain Ursus. You do great job and we all appreciate it.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Just yanking your chain Ursus. You do great job and we all appreciate it.

Hell, I'm saying YOU GUYS do a great job. I thought you were being serious though...cuz that is a mantra that's went around for years. I fell for it.

Jerk.xlolx

[OhioHen]

Jerk.xlolx

McNeese75 a jerk for pulling one over on you or you for taking the bait? xconfusedx

[McNeese72]

Hell, I'm saying YOU GUYS do a great job. I thought you were being serious though...cuz that is a mantra that's went around for years. I fell for it.

Jerk.xlolx


No, no, no! No East Coast bias anymore. Now it is a "Missouri Valley Conference" bias. You know it can't be because the teams are any good or won a few National Championships lately. ;)







McNeese75, you gave me the end of that chain. Is this how you do it?? :-)


I do think the AGS poll is well done even though I don't participate in it because I don't have the time to do the research to do an educated ranking of the teams.

[McNeese75]

No, no, no! No East Coast bias anymore. Now it is a "Missouri Valley Conference" bias. You know it can't be because the teams are any good or won a few National Championships lately. ;)







McNeese75, you gave me the end of that chain. Is this how you do it?? :-)


I do think the AGS poll is well done even though I don't participate in it because I don't have the time to do the research to do an educated ranking of the teams.

Hell I am trying to figure out how to rep myself xlolx. How often can one get Ursus to actually take the bait :D

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Hell I am trying to figure out how to rep myself xlolx. How often can one get Ursus to actually take the bait :D

Well when you hit your own rep star now you'll see some extra there.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

McNeese75 a jerk for pulling one over on you or you for taking the bait? xconfusedx

Yes, and why don't try not being so serious for a bit? It's more fun Ohen.

[OhioHen]

McNeese75 a jerk for pulling one over on you or you for taking the bait? xconfusedx


Yes, and why don't try not being so serious for a bit? It's more fun Ohen.

Nobody being serious with that one. :D

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Nobody being serious with that one. :D

Gotcha, misread it then.xthumbsupx

This must be what Grizo feels like...all the time.

[JMUNJ08]

And here I thought there was a lively discussion going on about the Coaches poll.....

Actually, after looking at the poll, this classed the thread up!

[McNeese75]

Well when you hit your own rep star now you'll see some extra there.

xthumbsupx Thank you kind Sir. You are a scholar and a gentleman (I don't care what Grizo says) xnodx

[ursus arctos horribilis]

xthumbsupx Thank you kind Sir. You are a scholar and a gentleman (I don't care what Grizo says) xnodx

Nobody does.