Maybe now 3-0 Harvard and 3-0 Yale should be ranked...

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Yale is 3-0 with a win over an FBS team, Harvard is 3-0 has pounded everyone they've played.

Who will jump ahead of them in the Top 25 this week? 4-2 SEMO? 4-2 South Carolina State? 5-1 Alcorn State? xlolx

[citdog]

Not in my poll they won't. hudson high sucks. those teams play NOBODY so hence no ranking. EVER. The teams you mention are ALL more deserving.

[FargoBison]

Yale yes...Harvard hell no.

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Yale is 3-0 with a win over an FBS team, Harvard is 3-0 has pounded everyone they've played.

Who will jump ahead of them in the Top 25 this week? 4-2 SEMO? 4-2 South Carolina State? 5-1 Alcorn State? xlolx

Each and everyone of those teams should be ahead of Harvard and its cream filled schedule.

[Pard4Life]

We are talking about the 20-25 bracket, not 1-5. Teams have been ranked 20-25 for a lot less around here.

[blackbeard]

Yale yes
Harvard no

[FargoBison]

We are talking about the 20-25 bracket, not 1-5. Teams have been ranked 20-25 for a lot less around here.

Yale should be ranked and I ranked them.

Harvard though has done nothing, absolutely nothing.

[FargoBison]

I love the first post ripping on SEMO...They've played Kansas, SELA and SIU plus a decent Tenn State team in conference play. They beat Tenn State and SELA, what would compel anyone to rank a team with wins over Brown, Holy Cross and G-Town over them?

[citdog]

I love the first post ripping on SEMO...They've played Kansas, SELA and SIU plus a decent Tenn State team in conference play. They beat Tenn State and SELA, what would compel anyone to rank a team with wins over Brown, Holy Cross and G-Town over them?

since le high sucks lfn is now carrying water for the ivy league.

[Lehigh'98]

since le high sucks lfn is now carrying water for the ivy league.

Perhaps you can give us some tips on getting through these terrible seasons. You do bring lots of experience to the table.

[Professor Chaos]

Harvard was trailing Brown going into the 4th quarter. How is that pounding them? Yale has an argument because of the Army win and they snuck into my poll. Harvard, like undefeated Charleston Southern, will not be ranked in my poll until they beat someone of substance.

[citdog]

Perhaps you can give us some tips on getting through these terrible seasons. You do bring lots of experience to the table.

Join a real conference and see how well you do. You don't see me toting water for PC and Charleston Southern.....

[centennial]

Yale maybe... Harvard, no way in hell.

[Sader87]

I agree that Harvard plays no one and should be somewhat penalized for this but they are also coming off a 9-1 season which ended with a 34-7 win at Yale.

I know, that was last year etc etc but I think a lot of people outside of the Northeast aren't aware just how good Harvard actually is.

They have also played their first 3 games (save for about 1/2 of the HC game) without their stahting QB and a few othah key players.

I'm not saying they are Top 10 but they definitely should be in the mix for the Top 25 or so.

[Pard4Life]

Brown-Harvard games are usually tough... Even though Brown is... crappy... the Bears usually give the Crimson a tough game, regardless of the season. Every team usually has "that type of opponent."

[Go Green]

, Harvard is 3-0 has pounded everyone they've played.



22-14 over Brown is a pounding?

xconfusedx

[BisonFan02]

No

[OL FU]

I realize that they maybe top 25. I also realize that typically Ivy league scheduling isn't conducive to anyone outside of that circle of knowledge having a clue if they belong in the top 25. IT would be nice scheduling was different. Honestly, I am not sure a lot of people in that circle of knowledge have a clue either.

Nice win over Army. Sagarin says Army would be about number 24 in FCS. Not sure I believe it thoughxeyebrowx

[X-Factor]

I've had both Yale and harvard in my poll for weeks now. They arnt going to move up much, but they are there

[Houndawg]

I realize that they maybe top 25. I also realize that typically Ivy league scheduling isn't conducive to anyone outside of that circle of knowledge having a clue if they belong in the top 25. IT would be nice scheduling was different. Honestly, I am not sure a lot of people in that circle of knowledge have a clue either.

Nice win over Army. Sagarin says Army would be about number 24 in FCS. Not sure I believe it thoughxeyebrowx

The Ivy League has their own thing, which is fine. They don't need to be ranked against anybody but themselves.

[Go Green]

I think if Yale goes 4-0, they should definitely be ranked.

But they aren't going 4-0.

:)

[bulldog10jw]

I think if Yale goes 4-0, they should definitely be ranked.

But they aren't going 4-0.

:)

You hope. :D

[Ivytalk]

Citdog is just pissed because Harvard, in its wisdom, has never erected a monument in Memorial Hall to the traitor sons of Harvard who died for slavery and the Confederacy in the Civil War.

That said, I agree that Yale should be ranked, but not Harvard. That may change by the fourth Saturday in November.

[heath]

Citdog is just pissed because Harvard, in its wisdom, has never erected a monument in Memorial Hall to the traitor sons of Harvard who died for slavery and the Confederacy in the Civil War.

That said, I agree that Yale should be ranked, but not Harvard. That may change by the fourth Saturday in November.
No, citdawg is just pissed because she has no life and zero friends, a clouded head of old history tarnished with the beginnings of dementia,
Yale-no
Harvard-no
Its too early in the season to rank an Ivy unless the have been "pounding" all their opponents

[NoDak 4 Ever]

No, citdawg is just pissed because she has no life and zero friends, a clouded head of old history tarnished with the beginnings of dementia,
Yale-no
Harvard-no
Its too early in the season to rank an Ivy unless the have been "pounding" all their opponents

Citdog has plenty of friends-me included. He just calls Patriot/Ivy bull**** for what it is

[citdog]

Harvard was trailing Brown going into the 4th quarter. How is that pounding them? Yale has an argument because of the Army win and they snuck into my poll. Harvard, like undefeated Charleston Southern, will not be ranked in my poll until they beat someone of substance.

Charleston Southern defeated The Citadel and a Charlotte team with more than 63 getting paid to be there. A WAY better resume than harvard. You should pay closer attention.

[citdog]

Citdog is just pissed because Harvard, in its wisdom, has never erected a monument in Memorial Hall to the traitor sons of Harvard who died for slavery and the Confederacy in the Civil War.

That said, I agree that Yale should be ranked, but not Harvard. That may change by the fourth Saturday in November.

Harvard does honor its graduates who fought for the Kaiser and who helped shovel Jews into the ovens for Uncle Adolph. Nice precedent.

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Citdog has plenty of friends-me included. He just calls Patriot/Ivy bull**** for what it is


See Heath.....I have a friend.

[bonarae]

I haven't put any Ivies in my poll yet this season. Their resumes are way too softer than past years... xsmhx

Like some Bison fans have put it here, two scholly teams I considered (SEMO and Charleston Southern) are much better when it comes to SOS and on-field performance... xcoffeex

[aceinthehole]

Yale probably somewhere 20-25.

Harvard shouldn't get ranked even if they go 10-0. The Crimson have 6 of the weakest opponents in FCS (Gtown, Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Penn, and Princeton).

How many FCS teams could go 4-0 against HC, Lafayette, Dartmouth, and Yale? That's all the Crimson can do to justify a ranking.

[heath]

Citdog has plenty of friends-me included. He just calls Patriot/Ivy bull**** for what it is
Who knew "the general of south canada" and "the president of the confederate states of america" were joined at the hipxconfusedx
bull**** football is when you play Gardner Webb, win and are happy about a 1-4 mark. :D:D

[Sader87]

Yale probably somewhere 20-25.

Harvard shouldn't get ranked even if they go 10-0. The Crimson have 6 of the weakest opponents in FCS (Gtown, Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Penn, and Princeton).

How many FCS teams could go 4-0 against HC, Lafayette, Dartmouth, and Yale? That's all the Crimson can do to justify a ranking.

Well, we know CCSU isn't one of them xsmiley_wix

Harvard is a good team.....the 2nd beat team by fah of HC's opponents to date this year (Albany, Morgan St, CCSU , Fordham and Colgate). Fordham was probably a bit bettah but not much.

It's a shame they don't schedule up.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Yale probably somewhere 20-25.

Harvard shouldn't get ranked even if they go 10-0. The Crimson have 6 of the weakest opponents in FCS (Gtown, Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Penn, and Princeton).

How many FCS teams could go 4-0 against HC, Lafayette, Dartmouth, and Yale? That's all the Crimson can do to justify a ranking.

Plenty.

[citdog]

Who knew "the general of south canada" and "the president of the confederate states of america" were joined at the hipxconfusedx
bull**** football is when you play Gardner Webb, win and are happy about a 1-4 mark. :D:D

Well it is SOUTH canada. Who is happy? Every team The Citadel has played is better than ANYONE who harvard has played. The personal attacks begin when the facts are not on your side. Nobody knows that better than I.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Well it is SOUTH canada. Who is happy? Every team The Citadel has played is better than ANYONE who harvard has played. The personal attacks begin when the facts are not on your side. Nobody knows that better than I.

And now that we have both relocated, I live considerably farther south than you.

[Ivytalk]

Citdog has plenty of friends-me included. He just calls Patriot/Ivy bull**** for what it is

You deserve each other.

[citdog]

You deserve each other.

Notice that the distinguished barrister is rendered speechless by the fact that his alma mater honors Nazis yet not Confederates......

I still love you Ivytalk.

no homo

[Gil Dobie]

Harvard yes, Yale, not yet my friend.

[bulldog10jw]

Harvard yes, Yale, not yet my friend.

It should be "not so fast, my friend"

[NoDak 4 Ever]

You deserve each other.

Did you cultivate that witty repartee at Harvard?

You paid too much.

[Ivytalk]

Notice that the distinguished barrister is rendered speechless by the fact that his alma mater honors Nazis yet not Confederates......

I still love you Ivytalk.

no homo

Never said that it made sense, citdog.The debate about honoring Harvard Confederates in Memorial Hall still rages, and some of the faculty liberals can't fathom that some Harvard graduates didn't observe the abolitionist
orthodoxy. If it were up to me, I'd give the Rebs a plaque.The only explanation I have for the Nazi honorees is that the school felt that they had no control over their country's politics. We're not talking field marshals here.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Bust on Harvard for scheduling bad games if you will, but you can't say the same of Yale.

[Pard4Life]

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/11/11/memorial-harvard-war-confederate/?page=single

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Bust on Harvard for scheduling bad games if you will, but you can't say the same of Yale.

Cal Poly, Army...

[NoDak 4 Ever]

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/11/11/memorial-harvard-war-confederate/?page=single

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Cal Poly, Army...

😃

[Go Green]

Never said that it made sense, citdog.The debate about honoring Harvard Confederates in Memorial Hall still rages, and some of the faculty liberals can't fathom that some Harvard graduates didn't observe the abolitionist
orthodoxy. If it were up to me, I'd give the Rebs a plaque.The only explanation I have for the Nazi honorees is that the school felt that they had no control over their country's politics. We're not talking field marshals here.

The explanation is that the German dude was a chaplain who (reportedly) was drafted against his will and opposed Nazi policies. He also did not serve in a combat role.

Harvard also left off the Japanese alum who helped plan the Pearl Harbor attack on their memorials.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1995/12/11/no-memorial-for-rebel-dead-pbtbhe/

That's Harvard's story, and they're sticking to it.

Edited: A little more on the German alum on Harvard's wall:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2003/11/6/the-writing-on-the-wall-the/

[Houndawg]

The simple fact is that the Ivy League is not relevant to FCS football and shouldn't be in the playoff picture regardless of their record. They have their own thing.

[DFW HOYA]

The simple fact is that the Ivy League is not relevant to FCS football and shouldn't be in the playoff picture regardless of their record. They have their own thing.

There is precedent for teams to be nationally ranked despite post-season participation. Let the Holy Cross fans tell you about their #1 ranking when the PL didn't participate in the playoffs.

[Go Green]

There is precedent for teams to be nationally ranked despite post-season participation. Let the Holy Cross fans tell you about their #1 ranking when the PL didn't participate in the playoffs.

The Ivy champion is ranked more often than not most years.

Undefeated Ivy teams end up in the #12-15 range.

[OL FU]

Bust on Harvard for scheduling bad games if you will, but you can't say the same of Yale.

I don't really knock either one's schedule. The problem more than anything else is that don't participate in the playoffs so it is really very difficult to tell what they can do out of the northeast.

You could knock Furman's out of conference and most SoCon's out of conference except, like the PL, our champion will go to the playoffs where they will probably play teams outside of their regions if they get far enough. The Ivy's don't and never will, so it will always be difficult to compare. (my two cents, can't get the icon to work)xembarrassedx

[World]

What difference does it make whether Yale or Harvard make the top 25?

They are both getting whopped by Princeton.

[crusader11]

What difference does it make whether Yale or Harvard make the top 25?

They are both getting whopped by Princeton.

Tough season for Lehigh, huh?

[Pard4Life]

We've said this many times: Some of Harvard's position players are usually among the best in FCS. For example, this year, DE Hodges. In the past, they have had top TEs, RBs, and QBs. They have the talent to compete, and us guys who have seen Harvard annually and other top FCS teams in the same season see that similar talent exists, but the depth is not there on Harvard.

[Pard4Life]

Tough season for Lehigh, huh?

:D xnodx

Welcome to Crapsville... aka Easton.

[DFW HOYA]

We've said this many times: Some of Harvard's position players are usually among the best in FCS. For example, this year, DE Hodges. In the past, they have had top TEs, RBs, and QBs. They have the talent to compete, and us guys who have seen Harvard annually and other top FCS teams in the same season see that similar talent exists, but the depth is not there on Harvard.

The Ivy connection to the NFL is often ignored. Sunday's Cowboys-Texans saw head coaches which had each played on Ivy teams (Jason Garrett at Princeton and Bill O'Brien at Brown), and the Texans' starting QB was Harvard's Ryan Fitzpatrick.

[Pard4Life]

The Ivy connection to the NFL is often ignored. Sunday's Cowboys-Texans saw head coaches which had each played on Ivy teams (Jason Garrett at Princeton and Bill O'Brien at Brown), and the Texans' starting QB was Harvard's Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Yep, and I'll follow-up... it's fair to rank them 20-25 and even in the high teens, but anything beyond that is speculation because they don't play anybody from a top conference.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

The Ivy connection to the NFL is often ignored. Sunday's Cowboys-Texans saw head coaches which had each played on Ivy teams (Jason Garrett at Princeton and Bill O'Brien at Brown), and the Texans' starting QB was Harvard's Ryan Fitzpatrick.

As has been said on another thread when someone was talking about the NFL worthiness of their players, it means nothing.

[citdog]

The Ivy connection to the NFL is often ignored. Sunday's Cowboys-Texans saw head coaches which had each played on Ivy teams (Jason Garrett at Princeton and Bill O'Brien at Brown), and the Texans' starting QB was Harvard's Ryan Fitzpatrick.

The Citadel has two starters in the NFL. Cortez Allen cornerback for the Steelers and Andre Roberts Wide Receiver for the REDSKINS so what is your point?

[Sader87]

The Citadel has two starters in the NFL. Cortez Allen cornerback for the Steelers and Andre Roberts Wide Receiver for the REDSKINS so what is your point?

That the Steelers and Redskins must suck....xdrunkyx

[crusader11]

:D xnodx

Welcome to Crapsville... aka Easton.

I'm just giving "World" a hard time since he used to post under the username "The Fan" -- the most ridiculous and irrational poster in, perhaps, AGS' history, he also happened to be a Lehigh / Spadola fan.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I'm just giving "World" a hard time since he used to post under the username "The Fan" -- the most ridiculous and irrational poster in, perhaps, AGS' history, he also happened to be a Lehigh / Spadola fan.

Are you sure? That guy was very unhinged and World just isn't as big an asshole.

[JSUBison]

Yale is 3-0 with a win over an FBS team, Harvard is 3-0 has pounded everyone they've played.

Who will jump ahead of them in the Top 25 this week? 4-2 SEMO? 4-2 South Carolina State? 5-1 Alcorn State? xlolx

Well your campaigning is showing some results. Yale and Harvard were 26 and 27 in this week's poll. They should crack the top 25 next week. By the way, I ranked SEMO AND Alcorn in my top 25, but not Yale or Harvard.

[Catbooster]

I'm just giving "World" a hard time since he used to post under the username "The Fan" -- the most ridiculous and irrational poster in, perhaps, AGS' history, he also happened to be a Lehigh / Spadola fan.
Really? I wouldn't have guessed it. Maybe I just haven't been paying attention, but then again, it was hard to miss "The Fan's" antics. Ridiculous and irrational is putting it mildly, but he was also entertaining, in an odd way (and in a laugh at him, not with him way).

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Really? I wouldn't have guessed it. Maybe I just haven't been paying attention, but then again, it was hard to miss "The Fan's" antics. Ridiculous and irrational is putting it mildly, but he was also entertaining, in an odd way (and in a laugh at him, not with him way).

I won't believe it until he threatens to sue someone.

[PAllen]

Really? I wouldn't have guessed it. Maybe I just haven't been paying attention, but then again, it was hard to miss "The Fan's" antics. Ridiculous and irrational is putting it mildly, but he was also entertaining, in an odd way (and in a laugh at him, not with him way).

He was for Lehigh what Citdog has become for The Citadel. Always talking, often ignored, sometimes funny, always a bit annoying.

[citdog]

He was for Lehigh what Citdog has become for The Citadel. Always talking, often ignored, sometimes funny, always a bit annoying.

So he's a typical le high poster?

[Go Green]

Yale and Harvard were 26 and 27 in this week's poll. They should crack the top 25 next week.

You think that a 3-1 Yale team will crack the top 25?

:)

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Not gonna lie. If you're really working hard to rank 20-25, you're doing way more work than I am.

[REALBird]

Please don't flame me, but I hate to ask a question that's likely been asked before and one that may be a sensitive topic but here goes. Is it just a matter of pride that you guys want to see a number beside your name? If the Ivies aren't playing in the FCS playoffs and the ranking isn't used for potential playoff seeding/slotting........not sure what the number does other than provide some barometer of how others view you.

Seems that notion of what others think about you went out the window with the decision of not playing in post-season, therefore I am left to surmise it's reeks of insecurity from a population who has separated themselves academically and athletically, but still wants to be "one of the guys" at the end of the day.

Honestly, I am not flaming. Just damn curious how you guys view the whole ranking vs. being "Ivies" who don't want to be a part of playoff football.

[Ivytalk]

What difference does it make whether Yale or Harvard make the top 25?

They are both getting whopped by Princeton.

Whatever. You lost to San Diego, so suck it.

[bulldog10jw]

Please don't flame me, but I hate to ask a question that's likely been asked before and one that may be a sensitive topic but here goes. Is it just a matter of pride that you guys want to see a number beside your name? If the Ivies aren't playing in the FCS playoffs and the ranking isn't used for potential playoff seeding/slotting........not sure what the number does other than provide some barometer of how others view you.

Seems that notion of what others think about you went out the window with the decision of not playing in post-season, therefore I am left to surmise it's reeks of insecurity from a population who has separated themselves academically and athletically, but still wants to be "one of the guys" at the end of the day.

Honestly, I am not flaming. Just damn curious how you guys view the whole ranking vs. being "Ivies" who don't want to be a part of playoff football.

I don't think any IL fan on this site has ever lobbied for or cared if any of our teams were ranked. Like many others besides you have said, what good does it do us.

However, I assume that if one of our teams was ranked and was beaten by a PL or NEC team especially, that would help them, so it could be in the interest of the teams in those conferences to see our teams ranked, if deserved.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

So it should be called the "Playoff Eligible Top 25", then, and you should not rank IL, SWAC teams.

And you can't say that Lehigh, at 0-4, is lobbying for any sort of at-large consideration this season. It's one of fairness, and consistency.

I have a big problem when an FCS Top 25 does not actually have the Top 25 teams in it.

[Lehigh'98]

Citdog has plenty of friends-me included. He just calls Patriot/Ivy bull**** for what it is

19807

Citdog and NoDak on the way to Fargodome

[PAllen]

So it should be called the "Playoff Eligible Top 25", then, and you should not rank IL, SWAC teams.

And you can't say that Lehigh, at 0-4, is lobbying for any sort of at-large consideration this season. It's one of fairness, and consistency.

I have a big problem when an FCS Top 25 does not actually have the Top 25 teams in it.

Agreed. It plays on the same mentality most SEC fans have: Our conference is far superior to everyone else's, so our strength of schedule is far superior to anyone else's, and therefore, only our teams should be considered for the best in the nation. Yale and Harvard have not proven that they are top ten teams yet, but they are certainly better than Sam Houston State or many MVFC teams that are receiving votes simply because they play and lose "tough" games.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

19807

Citdog and NoDak on the way to Fargodome

Yet your Patriot League circle jerk is what?

[BisonFan02]

19807

Citdog and NoDak on the way to Fargodome

Would have also accepted Holocaust rail car* for citdog....






*too soon?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Would have also accepted Holocaust rail car* for citdog....






*too soon?

He actually made that joke to me talking about his train ride and the fact that we were in a German themed bar.

[BisonFan02]

He actually made that joke to me talking about his train ride and the fact that we were in a German themed bar.

I know...I was there. haha

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I know...I was there. haha

Yeah, I wasn't sure how loud he was saying it though.

[BisonFan02]

Yeah, I wasn't sure how loud he was saying it though.

Yeah, I remember the conversation. I actually think someone cracked the joke first because he was going to go smoke outside the fence. (Clenz or one of the Montana guys?)

[UNH Fanboi]

The obsession of some PL fans with the Ivy League is just sad. You think that because you guys play a few games against the Ivy League, some of their prestige will rub off on you. I hate to break it to you, but nobody else gives a ****. At least a majority the PL presidents were smart enough to realize that copying the Ivy League's "non-scholarship" charade wasn't fooling anybody.

I could care less about Ivy League football until they join the playoffs. Distinguishing between teams in polls is hard enough with the limited amount of inter-conference play that we currently have, but with Ivy League teams it's a complete crapshoot.

[Lehigh'98]

The obsession of some PL fans with the Ivy League is just sad. You think that because you guys play a few games against the Ivy League, some of their prestige will rub off on you. I hate to break it to you, but nobody else gives a ****. At least a majority the PL presidents were smart enough to realize that copying the Ivy League's "non-scholarship" charade wasn't fooling anybody.

I could care less about Ivy League football until they join the playoffs. Distinguishing between teams in polls is hard enough with the limited amount of inter-conference play that we currently have, but with Ivy League teams it's a complete crapshoot.

+1

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I could care less about Ivy League football until they join the playoffs. Distinguishing between teams in polls is hard enough with the limited amount of inter-conference play that we currently have, but with Ivy League teams it's a complete crapshoot.

You are allowed to not care about IL football, but are you voting on a Top 25 of Playoff-eligible teams or a Top 25 of top teams in the land, where wins against FBS teams are supposed to matter - or at least they are if they are you or a conference-mate's?

[Houndawg]

You are allowed to not care about IL football, but are you voting on a Top 25 of Playoff-eligible teams or a Top 25 of top teams in the land, where wins against FBS teams are supposed to matter - or at least they are if they are you or a conference-mate's?

They're the same thing for the Top 15-20 usually.xcoffeex

[RichH2]

I have little doubt that Harvard,Yale and Princeton are very good and talented squads. They probably could do well competing against most of the current Top 25. Given the IL's very limited to those teams it is virtually impossible to gauge where or if they should be ranked. Some IL teams are starting to schedule up somewhat while others are limiting schedules to local NE teams. Until such time,if ever, that IL adds a game to broaden their OOC or decides to participate in the playoffs,I fail to see any urgency or basis to rank them. In some yrs,it may be warranted for a particular IL team that has shown on the field its worth in OOC competition to get ranked. Yale this did schedule a seemingly tougher OOC and the win over Army s/b given weight. Enuf to put them at the rear of Top 25. As a league,IL appears to be retreating more into a parochial OOC.

[citdog]

So it should be called the "Playoff Eligible Top 25", then, and you should not rank IL, SWAC teams.

And you can't say that Lehigh, at 0-4, is lobbying for any sort of at-large consideration this season. It's one of fairness, and consistency.

I have a big problem when an FCS Top 25 does not actually have the Top 25 teams in it.

Ours does and neither of the teams you want to schmeckle nuzzle were in it.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Have we gone back in time to the early 1900's? Because I am totally hanging with Tom Shervlin.

I think that Army would finish in the top 10 of the FCS.

[citdog]

Have we gone back in time to the early 1900's? Because I am totally hanging with Tom Shervlin.

I think that Army would finish in the top 10 of the FCS.

hudson high sucks

[bulldog10jw]

Have we gone back in time to the early 1900's? Because I am totally hanging with Tom Shervlin.

I think that Army would finish in the top 10 of the FCS.

Tom Shevlin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Shevlin

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Tom Shevlin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Shevlin

And I knew that. I just didn't bother to double-check because I smelled pork chops.

He was a character of the high order.

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hudson high sucks

Their policies do, but their football team looks good.

[Bill]

Their policies do, but their football team looks good.

Knight - not trying to be a wise a$$ here, but compared to what? The low end of FBS, or the middle of the road FCS?

[saxbison]

Have we gone back in time to the early 1900's? Because I am totally hanging with Tom Shervlin.

I think that Army would finish in the top 10 of the FCS.

Why do ivy league schools refuse to play the top level schools? I would love to see a top school vs EWU, NDSU, Villinova etc.

[UNH Fanboi]

You are allowed to not care about IL football, but are you voting on a Top 25 of Playoff-eligible teams or a Top 25 of top teams in the land, where wins against FBS teams are supposed to matter - or at least they are if they are you or a conference-mate's?

Ivies should be included in the polls as they are currently constituted, but I just find it hard to care about Ivies being snubbed in the polls. Polls are interesting to me to the extent that they are a proxy for discussing or predicting who will or should make the playoffs. If a playoff eligible team is getting snubbed in the polls, then that matters because that may affect whether that team will get an at-large bid or their seeding. If an Ivy team is getting snubbed, then it's just a matter of bragging rights, which I don't really care about.

[UNH Fanboi]

Why do ivy league schools refuse to play the top level schools? I would love to see a top school vs EWU, NDSU, Villinova etc.

Penn played a very tough game against Nova the year they won the championship, but matchups like that are becoming much less common.

[Go Green]

Ivies should be included in the polls as they are currently constituted, but I just find it hard to care about Ivies being snubbed in the polls. Polls are interesting to me to the extent that they are a proxy for discussing or predicting who will or should make the playoffs. . . . . If an Ivy team is getting snubbed, then it's just a matter of bragging rights, which I don't really care about.

The media agrees with you.

There was a time when the Ivy champ could go undefeated in league play, and beat a Holy Cross and a small schools division team like UMass or UConn, and be considered in the top 15 in ALL of college football and a Lambert Trophy.

Today, if an Ivy team runs the table in league, and takes down two PL teams, and a PFL/NEC team... it gets us #15 in the FCS and #4 in the Lambert.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Tom Shevlin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Shevlin



Great stuff.

As exemplified in his purchase of the $15,000 French automobile and hiring the world's champion hammer thrower as a trainer, Shevlin developed a reputation as a free spender. He was known for his "flashy clothes and his loud manner" and for being "a bit wild" in his four years at Yale.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Shevlin#cite_note-Swash-18) The New Haven Register wrote that, even at a school attended by the country's elites, Shevlin had set a record for spending:

"He is credited with having spent more money than any undergrad ever spent in the course of a year, $17,000 is the figure given. He bought everything -- flowers, taxicabs, autos (they were just coming in when Tom was in college), clothes (and such clothes!), jewelry, canes, dinners, and their accompaniments -- there wasn't a thing that was untouched by Tom's versatile and seemingly bottomless purse."[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Shevlin#cite_note-Swash-18)
Shevlin did not spend only on himself. He reportedly helped "many a poor fellow, struggling to get an education," sometimes anonymously leaving $1000 on the desk of a classmate in need.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Shevlin#cite_note-Swash-18)


Think Manziel with a conscience.

[heath]

That the Steelers and Redskins must suck....xdrunkyx
Yup, pretty much............and that is coming from a Steelers fan. Now I understand part of the problem when you have a CB from there.xsmhx

[Lehigh Football Nation]

The media agrees with you.

There was a time when the Ivy champ could go undefeated in league play, and beat a Holy Cross and a small schools division team like UMass or UConn, and be considered in the top 15 in ALL of college football and a Lambert Trophy.

Today, if an Ivy team runs the table in league, and takes down two PL teams, and a PFL/NEC team... it gets us #15 in the FCS and #4 in the Lambert.

That used to be the case. Now, Yale could run the table in the league and upset an FBS team, one of maybe five or six schools to do so, and still be ranked 15... if they're lucky.

[citdog]

Yup, pretty much............and that is coming from a Steelers fan. Now I understand part of the problem when you have a CB from there.xsmhx

Well Heath your lack of knowledge about your Steelers is only exceeded by your lack of knowledge of FCS Football which I didn't think was even possible. Cortez is the best DB you have. Here are his stats so far this season.
TAC UA A Sacks FF FR YDS INT Yards AVG Long TD PD STF STFY KB


2014 Regular Season
30
26
4
0.0
0
0
0
2
27
14
27
0
9
0
0
0



Get to know Cortez Allen your Steelers just signed him to a contract extension.


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#28 CB
6' 1", 196 lbs
Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers)




Oct 29, 1988 in San Diego, CA (Age: 25)

2011: 4th Rnd, 128th by PIT

4The Citadel

[Lehigh'98]

That used to be the case. Now, Yale could run the table in the league and upset an FBS team, one of maybe five or six schools to do so, and still be ranked 15... if they're lucky.

Are there 20 teams that would be betting favorites over Yale?

MVFC - 8 probably
CAA - 4 easy
BSC - 3-4 probably
SLC - ??
SoCon - 1
Patriot - 1
OVC - 2

About 20 teams who'd be favored to win against them. Have no problem with them 17-25..

[citdog]

That used to be the case. Now, Yale could run the table in the league and upset an FBS team, one of maybe five or six schools to do so, and still be ranked 15... if they're lucky.


http://www.quickmeme.com/img/08/08b5ec6dc4497f0e9153ed10a82424421c62cb6e3cb4cce60f 3e26159d5e278a.jpg

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Are there 20 teams that would be betting favorites over Yale?

MVFC - 8 probably
CAA - 4 easy
BSC - 3-4 probably
SLC - ??
SoCon - 1
Patriot - 1
OVC - 2

About 20 teams who'd be favored to win against them. Have no problem with them 17-25..

VMI would beat yale

[Lehigh'98]

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VMI would beat yale

At least we don't blame our losses on refs...

[citdog]

At least we don't blame our losses on refs...

le high would have to BE in a game for a victory to be STOLEN from them.

[RichH2]

98. Letting yourself get trolled.citdog is often humorous and at times astute. He gets tiresome in his endless trolling of Lehigh and PL Think he stops by when he gets bored. Given the sad state of Citadel football,imagine we'll see a lot of him.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

When Chatty plays the Citadel later this year, it's going to be a real challenge to root for an outcome.

[citdog]

98. Letting yourself get trolled.citdog is often humorous and at times astute. He gets tiresome in his endless trolling of Lehigh and PL Think he stops by when he gets bored. Given the sad state of Citadel football,imagine we'll see a lot of him.

So sad we didn't have the chance to fire kevin higgins.

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When Chatty plays the Citadel later this year, it's going to be a real challenge to root for an outcome.

You'll post something about it like 5 days after the game.

[Bill]

Get to know Cortez Allen your Steelers just signed him to a contract extension.


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#28 CB
6' 1", 196 lbs
Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers)




Oct 29, 1988 in San Diego, CA (Age: 25)

2011: 4th Rnd, 128th by PIT

4The Citadel



Didn't former Lehigh Coach Kevin Higgins and the fine undergraduate education of The Citadel help Mr. Allen get this far?xnodx

[Pard4Life]

xlolx Love the trolling of Lehigh. Eh, citdog has an opinion of the Ivy and PL... you don't have to agree with it, but there is no point in trying to convert him... everyone has an opinion that is rooted in some form of reality, and there is more than one form of reality.

[bonarae]

The trolling has gone too far... sheesh... I think I'm still not ready to transfer or even share my loyalty to/with ETSU. At least citdog hasn't put the Bucs to test yet, maybe come spring 2015, he may...

on topic: Yale was on my outside looking in, Harvard somewhere in the 30's (IMO).

[Lehigh'98]

98. Letting yourself get trolled.citdog is often humorous and at times astute. He gets tiresome in his endless trolling of Lehigh and PL Think he stops by when he gets bored. Given the sad state of Citadel football,imagine we'll see a lot of him.

I prefer to troll the trolls😘 I get his Schtick, find it funny. also think he has a screw loose.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Think Manziel with a conscience.

When did Tom Shevlin sell his autograph in college?

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I prefer to troll the trolls I get his Schtick, find it funny. also think he has a screw loose.

If we must have trolls (and the internet will have them), at least let the trolls be funny and witty.

Citdog is both.

[Pard4Life]

When did Tom Shevlin sell his autograph in college?

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If we must have trolls (and the internet will have them), at least let the trolls be funny and witty.

Citdog is both.

That's dangerous because it creates an aura of charisma, and sheep flock to charisma.

[citdog]

That's dangerous because it creates an aura of charisma, and sheep flock to charisma.


BBAAAAA

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

That's dangerous because it creates an aura of charisma, and sheep flock to charisma.

Life is dangerous and if other people cannot be their own personalities, then I laugh at their lack of spinal fortitude and I will say a prayer for them.

[Lehigh'98]

Life is dangerous and if other people cannot be their own personalities, then I laugh at their lack of spinal fortitude and I will say a prayer for them.

Please direct all prayers to the thread about Liberty Football.

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

Please direct all prayers to the thread about Liberty Football.

If this site receives government funding, I am claiming 1st Amendment rights. xthumbsupx

[heath]

Well Heath your lack of knowledge about your Steelers is only exceeded by your lack of knowledge of FCS Football which I didn't think was even possible. Cortez is the best DB you have. Here are his stats so far this season.
TAC UA A Sacks FF FR YDS INT Yards AVG Long TD PD STF STFY KB


2014 Regular Season
30
26
4
0.0
0
0
0
2
27
14
27
0
9
0
0
0



Get to know Cortez Allen your Steelers just signed him to a contract extension.


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#28 CB
6' 1", 196 lbs
Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers)




Oct 29, 1988 in San Diego, CA (Age: 25)

2011: 4th Rnd, 128th by PIT

4The Citadel


Looks to me like he is the corner getting picked on. Throwing away from the old man Taylor. Honestly if you are a Steeler fan, you are disappointed with many. Never challenge me on Steeler history or love for the team, it out does your love for that disappointing FCS team.

[Green26]

Oops, check that. Substitute Dartmouth for Yale in the thread title. Go Big Green.

[Go Green]

Oops, check that. Substitute Dartmouth for Yale in the thread title. Go Big Green.

One of the best wins Dartmouth has had in a while. We may pick up votes this week.

Still a lot of football to be played. Yale was the better team for the first half.