The MVFC...

[Thumper 76]

YSU is yet to beat SDSU under coach Wolford. I think YSU is due.

To be honest YSU is a game I'm never worried about. Missouri State scares me way more.

[NDSUtk]

To be honest YSU is a game I'm never worried about. Missouri State scares me way more.

I get worried for NDSU when we go down and play Missouri State as well. Something about going down there...we just don't perform as well in the past. That and I believe Missouri State still runs the 3-4 defense, which tends to give us more problems.

[MSUDuo]

MO State has had to play spoiler all these years. With the way the schedule sets up, we could be on the opposite end this time

[semobison]

It will be interesting how things shake out in conference play this year. After the OOC success this year it is really tough to pick out any easy games on the schedule. Will this be the week we start to see some separation from the contenders and the pretenders? Or, will we have another season like 2010 where 6 of 9 teams finished conference play 4-4. Talk about beating up on each other!

[Thumper 76]

It will be interesting how things shake out in conference play this year. After the OOC success this year it is really tough to pick out any easy games on the schedule. Will this be the week we start to see some separation from the contenders and the pretenders? Or, will we have another season like 2010 where 6 of 9 teams finished conference play 4-4. Talk about beating up on each other!

I really hope to see some separation, a cluster of 4 and 4 teams won't get many at larges.

[REALBird]

I am not sure C-USA is a step up in basketball anymore. That would be a lateral move in my opinion. The MWC might be a good option though.



UNIFan.... the name of the game is find a home first, then upgrade and move to a different neighborhood later. I think for WSU, the geography and landscape of C-USA makes it a bit more attractive to start up a football program, knowing that it's basketball program is what will FEED it in years to come. Plus, if they could become the Memphis of the current C-USA, then it helps them maintain their basketball status and guarantees an auto-bid yearly.

Some of their fans would love to see the move to the Mountain West Conference, I just can't see the MW jumping on a school who hasn't shown the commitment to football. Baby steps....baby steps. LOL

[dewey]

That's why I hate the Oshkosh game so much. Two losses in the MVFC when you play at NDSU and at UNI is a small margin of error.

Do you have any insight on why this game was even schedulued? If it was covered elsewhere I apologize for brining it up again. At least with a D2 game that win would count (or a loss at home by 26 if you are SHSU!)

Dewey

[clenz]

UNIFan.... the name of the game is find a home first, then upgrade and move to a different neighborhood later. I think for WSU, the geography and landscape of C-USA makes it a bit more attractive to start up a football program, knowing that it's basketball program is what will FEED it in years to come. Plus, if they could become the Memphis of the current C-USA, then it helps them maintain their basketball status and guarantees an auto-bid yearly.

Some of their fans would love to see the move to the Mountain West Conference, I just can't see the MW jumping on a school who hasn't shown the commitment to football. Baby steps....baby steps. LOL
I don't get the feeling WSU cares to start football, honestly.

They seem to view it as a nuisance that would detract from basketball.

[Thumper 76]

Do you have any insight on why this game was even schedulued? If it was covered elsewhere I apologize for brining it up again. At least with a D2 game that win would count (or a loss at home by 26 if you are SHSU!)

Dewey

I believe there was a problem getting a DII because the NSIC conference play had already begun and couldn't get anybody to come to CAS for a $185,000 guarantee and heard a couple other things. Maybe a better informed Jack fan can help me out here.

[Houndawg]

5-3. That is all we need. 5-3.


I know we've had one game in conference but here goes my predictions


NDSU: 7-1
UNI: 7-1
SIU: 6-2
MSU: 5-3
YSU: 5-3
SDSU: 5-3


ISUR: 3-5
WIU: 1-7
USD: 1-7
ISUB: 0-8


The last 2 years we have had 5 teams finish 5-3 or better in conference. If that happens again, we will have 6 teams in the playoffs. I think that that is the only way we get 6. I don't think we will get 7. To get 7, ISUR would have to beat UNI and SIU to get to 5-3 and keep the other teams at 5-3 as well.

Not a chance. We may have six teams that deserve to be in the playoffs but thats something else.

[Houndawg]

UNI and YSU

Or

SIU UNI

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Some of the best games played in FCS not very long ago. I remember one game at the dome in the Kill era where the clock read 0:00 and the game was still in doubt.

[JayJ79]

I really hope to see some separation, a cluster of 4 and 4 teams won't get many at larges.

just for ****s and giggles, here is how it would look if everyone went 4-4 in conference:

ILS - 7-4, all D-I schol
INS - 7-5, all D-I schol, win over a MAC, loss to a B10
MSU - 7-5, all D-I schol
NDSU - 8-4, all D-I schol, win over a B12
UNI - 6-6, all D-I schol, losses to B10 and MWC
USD - 6-6, 1 win over a NAIA, throttled by Pac12
SDSU - 7-5, 1 win over a D3, loss to SEC
SIU - 7-5, 1 win over a NAIA, loss to B10
WIU - 6-6, 2 wins over non-schol, 2 losses to B10
YSU - 7-5, 1 win over non-schol, 2 wins over partial schol, loss to B10


not sure how the auto-bid would fall (would depend on who lost to who, I suppose), but aside from that....
NDSU would definitely be in.
UNI, USD, SDSU, SIU, and WIU would definitely be out, lacking 7 D-I wins (though that didn't stop certain teams from other conferences last year)
YSU would likely be out as well.
how the ISU's and MSU fared might depend on who lost to who in conference.

[Thumper 76]

just for ****s and giggles, here is how it would look if everyone went 4-4 in conference:

ILS - 7-4, all D-I schol
INS - 7-5, all D-I schol, win over a MAC, loss to a B10
MSU - 7-5, all D-I schol
NDSU - 8-4, all D-I schol, win over a B12
UNI - 6-6, all D-I schol, losses to B10 and MWC
USD - 6-6, 1 win over a NAIA, throttled by Pac12
SDSU - 7-5, 1 win over a D3, loss to SEC
SIU - 7-5, 1 win over a NAIA, loss to B10
WIU - 6-6, 2 wins over non-schol, 2 losses to B10
YSU - 7-5, 1 win over non-schol, 2 wins over partial schol, loss to B10


not sure how the auto-bid would fall (would depend on who lost to who, I suppose), but aside from that....
NDSU would definitely be in.
UNI, USD, SDSU, SIU, and WIU would definitely be out, lacking 7 D-I wins (though that didn't stop certain teams from other conferences last year)
YSU would likely be out as well.
how the ISU's and MSU fared might depend on who lost to who in conference.

Looks like a fast way to only get 1, maybe two at larges at best. Let's hope that doesn't happen.

[UNIFanSince1983]

Some of the best games played in FCS not very long ago. I remember one game at the dome in the Kill era where the clock read 0:00 and the game was still in doubt.

I think 2007 in the UNI-Dome was like that.

Recently, they have still been great games it is just SIU has come out on top. The only win since 2007 is 2011 for UNI. Neither team wins by more than 7 and 2 of the games have been OT games. Just a wonderful series we have against each other.

[clenz]

Some of the best games played in FCS not very long ago. I remember one game at the dome in the Kill era where the clock read 0:00 and the game was still in doubt.
There's a youtube video, somewhere but I can't find it.

I think it was the 07 game, homecoming at UNI. SIU had the ball last down by less than a TD, and ran about a 16 latteral play that nearly broke it for the score but Chris Parsons knocked the guy OB at like the 8 yard line


The two have played 32 times

16 wins each
794 points for UNI
796 points for SIU
Since 2000 11 of the 13 games have been decided by less than a TD

It's stupid how close those games are

[Sycamore62]

There's a youtube video, somewhere but I can't find it.

I think it was the 07 game, homecoming at UNI. SIU had the ball last down by less than a TD, and ran about a 16 latteral play that nearly broke it for the score but Chris Parsons knocked the guy OB at like the 8 yard line


The two have played 32 times

16 wins each
794 points for UNI
796 points for SIU
Since 2000 11 of the 13 games have been decided by less than a TD

It's stupid how close those games are

i know its a different team but '97 ISUb @ UNI. 4thQ 0:02 on the clock UNI blocked our field goal from the 2 yd line to send it into what ended up being 3 OTs

anyone alive then?

[clenz]

i know its a different team but '97 ISUb @ UNI. 4thQ 0:02 on the clock UNI blocked our field goal from the 2 yd line to send it into what ended up being 3 OTs

anyone alive then?
I was 9

[wow]

I believe there was a problem getting a DII because the NSIC conference play had already begun and couldn't get anybody to come to CAS for a $185,000 guarantee and heard a couple other things. Maybe a better informed Jack fan can help me out here.

The NSIC is a 16 team conference, and they do not play any regular season out of conference games, at all. Ever. An NSIC opponent was never an option.

http://www.northernsun.org/calendar.aspx?path=football&season=2014&

[ST_Lawson]

i know its a different team but '97 ISUb @ UNI. 4thQ 0:02 on the clock UNI blocked our field goal from the 2 yd line to send it into what ended up being 3 OTs anyone alive then?

I was in Western's marching band that season. We beat both of you that year, but our UNI game was also OT...2 of them, actually.

[Sycamore62]

I was in Western's marching band that season. We beat both of you that year, but our UNI game was also OT...2 of them, actually.

ya our offense was terrible. that was the season after we were your 1 loss on homecoming before making the semis

[Yote 53]

just for ****s and giggles, here is how it would look if everyone went 4-4 in conference:

ILS - 7-4, all D-I schol
INS - 7-5, all D-I schol, win over a MAC, loss to a B10
MSU - 7-5, all D-I schol
NDSU - 8-4, all D-I schol, win over a B12
UNI - 6-6, all D-I schol, losses to B10 and MWC
USD - 6-6, 1 win over a NAIA, throttled by Pac12
SDSU - 7-5, 1 win over a D3, loss to SEC
SIU - 7-5, 1 win over a NAIA, loss to B10
WIU - 6-6, 2 wins over non-schol, 2 losses to B10
YSU - 7-5, 1 win over non-schol, 2 wins over partial schol, loss to B10


not sure how the auto-bid would fall (would depend on who lost to who, I suppose), but aside from that....
NDSU would definitely be in.
UNI, USD, SDSU, SIU, and WIU would definitely be out, lacking 7 D-I wins (though that didn't stop certain teams from other conferences last year)
YSU would likely be out as well.
how the ISU's and MSU fared might depend on who lost to who in conference.

Throttled by freaking Oregon is different than being throttled by, say, Colorado. Nice use of the word throttled without clarifying which Pac 12 school it was. Like every other MVFC wouldn't suffer the same fate at Oregon, including the Bison.

[clenz]

Throttled by freaking Oregon is different than being throttled by, say, Colorado. Nice use of the word throttled without clarifying which Pac 12 school it was. Like every other MVFC wouldn't suffer the same fate at Oregon, including the Bison.
And....every MVFC team would have given up 300+ yards rushing to an NAIA...?

[BisonFan02]

Throttled by freaking Oregon is different than being throttled by, say, Colorado. Nice use of the word throttled without clarifying which Pac 12 school it was. Like every other MVFC wouldn't suffer the same fate at Oregon, including the Bison.

Did you guys sell out the tickets to the game against NDSU yet?

[Yote 53]

And....every MVFC team would have given up 300+ yards rushing to an NAIA...?

A triple option team that didn't throw the ball. Go count the passing yardage. Bottom line was a comfortable win in the end. Also beat a ranked NAU team this year. So what's your point/

It's going to hurt when USD beats UNI again this season.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Did you guys sell out the tickets to the game against NDSU yet?

Wait wait, I know.

http://shawnbyfield.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/consuelafromfamilyguy.jpg?w=263&h=300

[SIUSalukiFan]

I think 2007 in the UNI-Dome was like that.

Recently, they have still been great games it is just SIU has come out on top. The only win since 2007 is 2011 for UNI. Neither team wins by more than 7 and 2 of the games have been OT games. Just a wonderful series we have against each other.

Absolutely great series.

I'm just glad you guys have had so many injuries the past few years or we would have been obliterated. xbowx

[RabidRabbit]

Originally Posted by JayJ79 http://www.anygivensaturday.com/images/SeamusLight/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?p=2152885#post2152885) just for ****s and giggles, here is how it would look if everyone went 4-4 in conference:


ILS - 7-4, all D-I schol
INS - 7-5, all D-I schol, win over a MAC, loss to a B10
MSU - 7-5, all D-I schol
NDSU - 8-4, all D-I schol, win over a B12
UNI - 6-6, all D-I schol, losses to B10 and MWC
USD - 6-6, 1 win over a NAIA, throttled by Pac12
SDSU - 7-5, 1 win over a D3, loss to SEC
SIU - 7-5, 1 win over a NAIA, loss to B10
WIU - 6-6, 2 wins over non-schol, 2 losses to B10
YSU - 7-5, 1 win over non-schol, 2 wins over partial schol, loss to B10



not sure how the auto-bid would fall (would depend on who lost to who, I suppose), but aside from that....
NDSU would definitely be in.
UNI, USD, SDSU, SIU, and WIU would definitely be out, lacking 7 D-I wins (though that didn't stop certain teams from other conferences last year)
YSU would likely be out as well.
how the ISU's and MSU fared might depend on who lost to who in conference.

If this happens then 3, maybe 4 get in.
3 in - NDSU, ISU(B), ISU(R).
Bubble teams - MSU, YSU - MSU wins much greater clout than YSU's wins, unless 2 of 3 YSU wins are the other conference champs.


Other teams, including SDSU, would be victims of their own scheduling.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I was in Western's marching band that season. We beat both of you that year, but our UNI game was also OT...2 of them, actually.

Was that the year the XP was blocked and returned for 2 points (or it may have been a field goal returned for a TD)? I may have been at that game if it was in Macomb.

[ST_Lawson]

Was that the year the XP was blocked and returned for 2 points (or it may have been a field goal returned for a TD)? I may have been at that game if it was in Macomb.

You are correct...XP returned for TD. I remember because we (band members) couldn't figure out if it was 1, 2, or 6 points. If I remember correctly, UNI brought their band down as well.

[penguinpower]

I remember the UNI game where time expired and UNI kicked a field goal and missed and the penguins were call for roughing the kicker. Time had expired so with no time on the clock they got to re kick 15 yards closer and made it through. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in my lifetime and haven't seen it again since.

[Sycamore62]

I remember the UNI game where time expired and UNI kicked a field goal and the penguins were call for roughing the kicker. Time had expired so with no time on the clock they got to re kick 15 yards closer and made it through. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in my lifetime and haven't seen it again since.

Did the referee have to waddle out because of his huge balls required to throw a flag like that

[penguinpower]

Did the referee have to waddle out because of his huge balls required to throw a flag like that

I recall them escorting them out quickly while the crowd was still in shock.

[Sycamore62]

I recall them escorting them out quickly while the crowd was still in shock.

Been there....sadly that was probably the most confident call he has ever made

[Yotes]

5-3. That is all we need. 5-3.


I know we've had one game in conference but here goes my predictions


NDSU: 7-1
UNI: 7-1
SIU: 6-2
MSU: 5-3
YSU: 5-3
SDSU: 5-3


ISUR: 3-5
WIU: 1-7
USD: 1-7
ISUB: 0-8


The last 2 years we have had 5 teams finish 5-3 or better in conference. If that happens again, we will have 6 teams in the playoffs. I think that that is the only way we get 6. I don't think we will get 7. To get 7, ISUR would have to beat UNI and SIU to get to 5-3 and keep the other teams at 5-3 as well.
Is this a real prediction? Maybe you're onto something with the order of teams, but you are miles off on some of those records.

[Theee Catrabbit]

Do you have any insight on why this game was even schedulued? If it was covered elsewhere I apologize for brining it up again. At least with a D2 game that win would count (or a loss at home by 26 if you are SHSU!)

Dewey

FCS team(not sure which one)backed out. Couldn't schedule anyone else. Doesn't matter if it was a D2, D3 or NAIA, who cares none of them count for ****, and neither did Oshkosh.....I guess if you beat Colorado State Pueblo now...you might have a case for beating a D2 school as being a counter.......

[Theee Catrabbit]

5-3. That is all we need. 5-3.


I know we've had one game in conference but here goes my predictions


NDSU: 7-1
UNI: 7-1
SIU: 6-2
MSU: 5-3
YSU: 5-3
SDSU: 5-3


ISUR: 3-5
WIU: 1-7
USD: 1-7
ISUB: 0-8


The last 2 years we have had 5 teams finish 5-3 or better in conference. If that happens again, we will have 6 teams in the playoffs. I think that that is the only way we get 6. I don't think we will get 7. To get 7, ISUR would have to beat UNI and SIU to get to 5-3 and keep the other teams at 5-3 as well.

NDSU and UNI will have 2 losses, and I am not saying from SDSU. UNI will get beat by NDSU. NDSU will lose to Mo State and 1 other. Someone else will pick off UNI one more time.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

NDSU and UNI will have 2 losses, and I am not saying from SDSU. UNI will get beat by NDSU. NDSU will lose to Mo State and 1 other. Someone else will pick off UNI one more time.


2 losses for NDSU??

Maybe but it will take a full 4 quarter effort to do it. I'm looking forward to the next 8 conference games.

[Yotes]

NDSU and UNI will have 2 losses, and I am not saying from SDSU. UNI will get beat by NDSU. NDSU will lose to Mo State and 1 other. Someone else will pick off UNI one more time.
Plus USD and Indiana State will both find at least three wins, and SIU is going to need a lot of luck to go 6-2 through this conference.

I can definitely see Western Illinois putting up an egg this year. If NDSU finds a way to lose two games I'll be surprised.

[underdawg]

Plus USD and Indiana State will both find at least three wins, and SIU is going to need a lot of luck to go 6-2 through this conference.

I can definitely see Western Illinois putting up an egg this year. If NDSU finds a way to lose two games I'll be surprised.

I take it there is no fan board for the Yotes? WIU, IN State and you guys are hard to locate.

[dewey]

FCS team(not sure which one)backed out. Couldn't schedule anyone else. Doesn't matter if it was a D2, D3 or NAIA, who cares none of them count for ****, and neither did Oshkosh.....I guess if you beat Colorado State Pueblo now...you might have a case for beating a D2 school as being a counter.......

One division 2 team per year does count towards the playoff record as this was changed before last season. That sucks when a team backs out and then you end up playing a game that was a non counter especially if SDSU drops 2 or 3 conference games.

Dewey

[FargoBison]

I take it there is no fan board for the Yotes? WIU, IN State and you guys are hard to locate.

Here is their board.... http://usdcoyotesports.proboards.com/

Every team in the MVFC has a fan board.

[skinny_uncle]

I think 2007 in the UNI-Dome was like that.

Recently, they have still been great games it is just SIU has come out on top. The only win since 2007 is 2011 for UNI. Neither team wins by more than 7 and 2 of the games have been OT games. Just a wonderful series we have against each other.
Often they come down to the last play of the game. I remember at least one decided on a last second field goal and another decided when a Saluki knocked away a pass in the end zone on the final play.

[ST_Lawson]

I take it there is no fan board for the Yotes? WIU, IN State and you guys are hard to locate.

Here's us: http://www.leathernecknation.net/

[Thumper 76]

One division 2 team per year does count towards the playoff record as this was changed before last season. That sucks when a team backs out and then you end up playing a game that was a non counter especially if SDSU drops 2 or 3 conference games.

Dewey

We should be ok if we drop 2, 3 losses in conference and were toast for playoffs unless something wild happens with the rest of the FCS.

[JayJ79]

We should be ok if we drop 2, 3 losses in conference and were toast for playoffs unless something wild happens with the rest of the FCS.

essentially, SDSU is playing 11 meaningful regular season games. Same as Illinois State. (though ILS didn't play an FBS school)

[Sycamore62]

sycamorepride.com

[underdawg]

sycamorepride.com


Thanks; Here is the link: www.sycamorepride.com

[skinny_uncle]

In case anyone lost track of us after the death of Salukitalk.
http://www.salukination.net

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

In case anyone lost track of us after the death of Salukitalk.
http://www.salukination.net


SIU wins this one: 35-13

USD doesn't play well on the road.

[Thumper 76]

SIU wins this one: 35-13

USD doesn't play well on the road.

Road games don't count for usd, just ask them.

[clenz]

Road games don't count for usd, just ask them.
especially if someone is hurt.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

especially if someone is hurt.


USD will win 1 or 2 games in the Valley. Wouldn't surprise me if they go winless.

[REALBird]

http://www.redbirdfan.net/forum

[Yotes]

USD will win 1 or 2 games in the Valley. Wouldn't surprise me if they go winless.
With an improved team that won 3 last year? Just keep talking out of your ass.

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especially if someone is hurt.
You of all people can't play that card.

[clenz]

With an improved team that won 3 last year? Just keep talking out of your ass.

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You of all people can't play that card.
You are the one saying a team missing something like 7 starters (including all conference and Americans) yet your team can?

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[Bisonoline]

All right this thread is starting to warm up!!!!!!!xnodx:D

[Thumper 76]

All right this thread is starting to warm up!!!!!!!xnodx:D

I think our feel good time left with the OOC games :D

[Houndawg]

Often they come down to the last play of the game. I remember at least one decided on a last second field goal and another decided when a Saluki knocked away a pass in the end zone on the final play.

Korey Lindsey.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

With an improved team that won 3 last year? Just keep talking out of your ass.

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You of all people can't play that card.



We'll see how improved USD is.

You saying USD will sweep the Valley is talking out of your ass. Me saying the votes will win 1 or 2 games or maybe go winless is not unrealistic when they haven't proved jack squat yet.

[unigriff]

Well someone did say UNI had no chance against them this year. I laugh. They beat us once in a lifetime and now they can do it at will apparently.

[Green1]

Well someone did say UNI had no chance against them this year. I laugh. They beat us once in a lifetime and now they can do it at will apparently.


Pigs will fly. No, really, pigs will fly in little pig helicopters. It's a fact. Can't be argued with...
USD will smoke UNI when pigs fly in pigcopters.

[semobison]

USD will win 1 or 2 games in the Valley. Wouldn't surprise me if they go winless.

Wow, that's a pretty bold statement! You do realize they are 37-11 in the Dakota Dome since 2005 with only one losing season in Vermillion. Last year they were 3-3 losing very close games to Montana, who they totally outplayed and Youngstown! Now, if you said they might not win a road game this year I might agree. I watched them at Montana earlier this season. If they had an average passing game they would be dangerous. I don't see us blowing them out by 40 in their little dome this year. Very tough place for opponents to play!

[clenz]

Wow, that's a pretty bold statement! You do realize they are 37-11 in the Dakota Dome since 2005 with only one losing season in Vermillion. Last year they were 3-3 losing very close games to Montana, who they totally outplayed and Youngstown! Now, if you said they might not win a road game this year I might agree. I watched them at Montana earlier this season. If they had an average passing game they would be dangerous. I don't see us blowing them out by 40 in their little dome this year. Very tough place for opponents to play!
What's their record vs mvfc teams in their dome?

Their record vs NDSU, UNI, SDSU, SIU, YSU and ISUr there?

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[unigriff]

The only good thing they got at USD is one of my best friends is their new director of marketing. A UNI grad. Tremendous guy! He is gonna do a lot of great things for them.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

What's their record vs mvfc teams in their dome?

Their record vs NDSU, UNI, SDSU, SIU, YSU and ISUr there?

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It looks to be about 2-6.

A lot of Moorhead State, Augustana and Missouri-Rolla padding that record.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Wow, that's a pretty bold statement! You do realize they are 37-11 in the Dakota Dome since 2005 with only one losing season in Vermillion. Last year they were 3-3 losing very close games to Montana, who they totally outplayed and Youngstown! Now, if you said they might not win a road game this year I might agree. I watched them at Montana earlier this season. If they had an average passing game they would be dangerous. I don't see us blowing them out by 40 in their little dome this year. Very tough place for opponents to play!


Since 2005? Really? Try since they have been in the Valley.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong. It starts Saturday at SIU for them.

And semo....part of being a great team is having a complete team: offense..defense..special teams and depth. The Bison have proven it the last 3 years. They still need to prove they can make a run this year but IMO they will. USD hasn't proved jack squat on the field in the Valley. That home record prior to entering the Valley is pretty suspect.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

It looks to be about 2-6.

A lot of Moorhead State, Augustana and Missouri-Rolla padding that record.

This here!!!

[semobison]

Since 2005? Really? Try since they have been in the Valley.

Maybe they'll prove me wrong. It starts Saturday at SIU for them.

And semo....part of being a great team is having a complete team: offense..defense..special teams and depth. The Bison have proven it the last 3 years. They still need to prove they can make a run this year but IMO they will. USD hasn't proved jack squat on the field in the Valley. That home record prior to entering the Valley is pretty suspect.

Where did I say USD had a great team?? I said they are tough at home in the dome. Look up their record, when they have lost to Valley teams at home it has been close. ... And Clenz, you lost to them last year and squeaked out a 3 point win in 2012 to a Yote team that was 1-10! IMO most Valley teams will be in for a battle when the go to Vermillion this year.

[clenz]

Where did I say USD had a great team?? I said they are tough at home in the dome. Look up their record, when they have lost to Valley teams at home it has been close. ... And Clenz, you lost to them last year and squeaked out a 3 point win in 2012 to a Yote team that was 1-10! IMO most Valley teams will be in for a battle when the go to Vermillion this year.
Again... What is their record against mvfc teams?

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[Green1]

The only good thing they got at USD is one of my best friends is their new director of marketing. A UNI grad. Tremendous guy! He is gonna do a lot of great things for them.


Tell him to market some tickets to the USD vs. NDSU football game! Lol.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Where did I say USD had a great team?? I said they are tough at home in the dome. Look up their record, when they have lost to Valley teams at home it has been close. ... And Clenz, you lost to them last year and squeaked out a 3 point win in 2012 to a Yote team that was 1-10! IMO most Valley teams will be in for a battle when the go to Vermillion this year.



Never implied you said that, just making a point. Ya their home record is good with crap teams coming in prior to entering the Valley. Like I said, they haven't proved much of anything in the Valley. Maybe they this year....but I doubt it.

[unigriff]

I wouldn't even do that Green. Thats just stupid. Plain stupid. This is the only time a "Southern" state is smarter. The smarter Dakotans live in the correct state.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Never implied you said that, just making a point. Ya their home record is good with crap teams coming in prior to entering the Valley. Like I said, they haven't proved much of anything in the Valley. Maybe they this year....but I doubt it.

Eh, semo is always kind of a Debbie Downer.

[semobison]

Never implied you said that, just making a point. Ya their home record is good with crap teams coming in prior to entering the Valley. Like I said, they haven't proved much of anything in the Valley. Maybe they this year....but I doubt it.

You do realize they have only been in the league 2 years. They have recent home wins against S Utah, Cal Poly, SELU and EWU. Give them a break, you do remember our first 2 years in the Valley, 6 wins 10 losses!

[unigriff]

You do realize they have only been in the league 2 years. They have recent home wins against S Utah, Cal Poly, SELU and EWU. Give them a break, you do remember our first 2 years in the Valley, 6 wins 10 losses!


ya semo...you guys will be going back to those numbers soon. I'm betting a 7-4, 6-5 type seaon next year for ya.

[semobison]

Eh, semo is always kind of a Debbie Downer.

Someone has to keep you Homer's in line. When is the last time you didn't pick us to win by 40? And when we don't cover its... but ...but...they were better than I thought.... Yep, Weber is 0-5, not going to contend for the Sky title this year....LOL...gotta love you guys!

[semobison]

ya semo...you guys will be going back to those numbers soon. I'm betting a 7-4, 6-5 type seaon next year for ya.

I wouldn't bet on it! This train is rolling and is going to be hard to slow down!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

You do realize they have only been in the league 2 years. They have recent home wins against S Utah, Cal Poly, SELU and EWU. Give them a break, you do remember our first 2 years in the Valley, 6 wins 10 losses!

Of course I do. You brought up their monstrous home record since 2005 and cherry pick a few games. Go back and look at them all.

Did the Bison get blown out 50-0 or 40-0 in any game those first two years? Bison lost by some close scores.

You think they could be great...fine. I don't.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Someone has to keep you Homer's in line. When is the last time you didn't pick us to win by 40? And when we don't cover its... but ...but...they were better than I thought.... Yep, Weber is 0-5, not going to contend for the Sky title this year....LOL...gotta love you guys!



NoDak seems to be right.

Gotta love your arguing with fellow Bison fans.....about something worthless as USDs awesome home record. The way you talk, USD is going to roll everyone in the Valley.

[semobison]

Of course I do. You brought up their monstrous home record since 2005 and cherry pick a few games. Go back and look at them all.

Did the Bison get blown out 50-0 or 40-0 in any game those first two years? Bison lost by some close scores.

You think they could be great...fine. I don't.

You said NW, that they might not win a game in the Valley this year! I disagree with that statement and gave you my reason why. Hey, its OK to compliment another team but nowhere did I say the Yotes would be great this year! Did I not say they might not win a road game in conference this year?? Come on man!

[Twentysix]

With an improved team that won 3 last year? Just keep talking out of your ass.

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You of all people can't play that card.

So far the valley seems much improved over last year. Its possible USD got better than last year, and they still lose every game. (I'm not saying that will happen, just that they are both possible)

[semobison]

NoDak seems to be right.

Gotta love your arguing with fellow Bison fans.....about something worthless as USDs awesome home record. The way you talk, USD is going to roll everyone in the Valley.

Who is arguing? I disagree with his statement that the Yotes will go winless in the Valley this season! That is a far cry from saying they will be rolling everybody! Some of you get paranoid whenever somebody compliments another team!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

You said NW, that they might not win a game in the Valley this year! I disagree with that statement and gave you my reason why. Hey, its OK to compliment another team but nowhere did I say the Yotes would be great this year! Did I not say they might not win a road game in conference this year?? Come on man!

I said maybe winless. 1 or 2/wins. I could be wrong. Nothing wrong with complimenting teams but you sure like to argue.

Could they be tough at home? Sure
Could they win the Valley? Sure but I doubt it.
Could they go winless in they Valley? Sure they could.

[Green1]

Who is arguing? I disagree with his statement that the Yotes will go winless in the Valley this season! That is a far cry from saying they will be rolling everybody! Some of you get paranoid whenever somebody compliments another team!


When did you get your Coyote season tickets,Semobison? :D






P.S.- Can you hook a guy up with some USD vs NDSU tickets?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Semo: go read my post on page 56. I said it wouldn't surprise me if they went winless. 1 or 2 wins....

[semobison]

I said maybe winless. 1 or 2/wins. I could be wrong. Nothing wrong with complimenting teams but you sure like to argue.

Could they be tough at home? Sure
Could they win the Valley? Sure but I doubt it.
Could they go winless in they Valley? Sure they could.

I will argue when people say I said things that I didn't say. Never said USD was great and going to contend. Yet you two guys said that's what I was assuming.......Really though, I like you guys even though you are big Homers! Go Bison!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

[QUOTE=semobison;2153582]I will argue when people say I said things that I didn't say. Never said USD was great and going to contend. Yet you two guys said that's what I was assuming.......Really though, I like you guys even though you are big Homers! Go Bison![/QUO


You're right I'm a homer. I'll pick the Bison against anyone....lol

[Thumper 76]

Semo did you not read my post. No more compliments for other teams here! Everyone else sucks!!! Compliments for other teams are forbidden!

[semobison]

[QUOTE=semobison;2153582]I will argue when people say I said things that I didn't say. Never said USD was great and going to contend. Yet you two guys said that's what I was assuming.......Really though, I like you guys even though you are big Homers! Go Bison![/QUO


You're right I'm a homer. I'll pick the Bison against anyone....lol

That's cool, and I worry about our opponent damn near every week! LOL...But I am an old timer! Enjoy what we got boys and try to be humble! It is a great time to be a Bison fan!

[Green1]

Semo did you not read my post. No more compliments for other teams here! Everyone else sucks!!! Compliments for other teams are forbidden!


Man, why are there so many rules with these sorts of things!

[Thumper 76]

Man, why are there so many rules with these sorts of things!

It's like baseball in this thread, all rules are unwritten and subject to change depending on circumstances such as who is posting, if it's raining, whether there are pig copters, if it's the third second Tuesday of the month, ect. You know, the usual.

[Green1]

It's like baseball in this thread, all rules are unwritten and subject to change depending on circumstances such as who is posting, if it's raining, whether there are pig copters, if it's the third second Tuesday of the month, ect. You know, the usual.


I disagree with everything you have said. Except for pig copters. Pig copters are for real.



(Did I do that right? Is that ornery enough?)

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

[QUOTE=Bison Fan in NW MN;2153585]

That's cool, and I worry about our opponent damn near every week! LOL...But I am an old timer! Enjoy what we got boys and try to be humble! It is a great time to be a Bison fan!


I worry also.

According to my college age daughters, I'm an old timer also....This has been a great run and it will end....but not this year....

[semobison]

When did you get your Coyote season tickets,Semobison? :D






P.S.- Can you hook a guy up with some USD vs NDSU tickets?

Last time I was in Vermin was the DII semifinal game in 85! Bentrim, Molstre, The Pitch! If you don't know what I am talking about you don't know Bison football!

[Green1]

Last time I was in Vermin was the DII semifinal game in 85! Bentrim, Molstre, The Pitch! If you don't know what I am talking about you don't know Bison football!

I know exactly what you are talking about Semobison! One of the best football plays I have ever seen! Too bad I saw it on tv, and I was a small child..... Stil awesome though!

[Thumper 76]

I disagree with everything you have said. Except for pig copters. Pig copters are for real.



(Did I do that right? Is that ornery enough?)

Could use some cursing but decent.

[Green1]

Could use some cursing but decent.

Dang Nab It!! You take your advise and stick where the ....



Sorry, I am no good at this. I will work on my game though.

[goyotes]

Last time I was in Vermin was the DII semifinal game in 85! Bentrim, Molstre, The Pitch! If you don't know what I am talking about you don't know Bison football!

I was there. The Yotes D had pushed you back to your own goal line. Had Bentrim all but tackled, possibly for a safety. And then, it happened.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I was there. The Yotes D had pushed you back to your own goal line. Had Bentrim all but tackled, possibly for a safety. And then, it happened.

You know why? Winners win, as it always has Ben and always should be.

[wow]

I said maybe winless. 1 or 2/wins. I could be wrong. Nothing wrong with complimenting teams but you sure like to argue.

Could they be tough at home? Sure
Could they win the Valley? Sure but I doubt it.
Could they go winless in they Valley? Sure they could.

I'm no lover of the other team from SD, but this reads like what UNI/SIU/Youngstown fans from 2007 were saying about the xDSU's. No reason to expect USD won't be able to compete in the MVFC, IMO.

[KUlawJack]

ya semo...you guys will be going back to those numbers soon. I'm betting a 7-4, 6-5 type seaon next year for ya.

I doubt it. They've destroyed both of us recruiting Minnesota and Wisconsin the past two years and the haul they're bringing out of Minnesota is ridiculous so far this year.

I do like the class we're putting together, however. 10 dudes so far.

[UNIFanSince1983]

I'm no lover of the other team from SD, but this reads like what UNI/SIU/Youngstown fans from 2007 were saying about the xDSU's. No reason to expect USD won't be able to compete in the MVFC, IMO.

He was talking about this year alone I'm pretty sure. And for the record NDSU and SDSU were successful prior to joining the Valley which should have given us fans from UNI/SIU/YSU a little bit of a hint. USD was not successful in the Great West. I am not sure why I am to expect that to change simply because they joined the Valley.

[Thumper 76]

I doubt it. They've destroyed both of us recruiting Minnesota and Wisconsin the past two years and the haul they're bringing out of Minnesota is ridiculous so far this year.

I do like the class we're putting together, however. 10 dudes so far.

Glenn won't leave the cupboard bare for them he leaves, it will be interesting to see what happens with the hire after him. I'm confident that they can screw it up :D

[clenz]

I'm no lover of the other team from SD, but this reads like what UNI/SIU/Youngstown fans from 2007 were saying about the xDSU's. No reason to expect USD won't be able to compete in the MVFC, IMO.
What makes you think they'll ever be more than a WIU or MSU style team, occasional good teams but not much more?

WIU is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SIU, ISUr, SEMO, and Drake (yeah...I included Drake). They very rarely pull a target from one of them if those others (especially the MVFC team) actually wants them.
USD is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SDSU, NDSU, Northwest Missouri State, and Drake (Yeah...I included Drake). They rarely pull a target from one of those others (especially the MVFC schools) if they actually want that target.

Randy Ball laid a very, very, strong foundation at WIU betwen 1990 and 1999 including conference title teams, and the teams he left for Don Patterson won multipe titles. It took Don Patterson just 4 years to break that foundation to dust (including the teams that won the conference titles)
Joe Glenn has, at most, 3 years left. Maybe he builds a foundation that isn't able to be crumbled when he leaves. He has an okay one now. He doesn't have near the talent that WIU had when Ball left.

Maybe I'm wrong...maybe....


They'll probably have a couple good years every so often - as does MSU and WIU...but I don't know how they overcome where they are starting, especially when it comes to recruiting against SDSU, NDSU, and UNI...add in USF, Augie, and NWMoSt at the D2 level all trying to get big names....they'll get some, but not many.

[Sycamore62]

What makes you think they'll ever be more than a WIU or MSU style team, occasional good teams but not much more?

WIU is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SIU, ISUr, SEMO, and Drake (yeah...I included Drake). They very rarely pull a target from one of them if those others (especially the MVFC team) actually wants them.
USD is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SDSU, NDSU, Northwest Missouri State, and Drake (Yeah...I included Drake). They rarely pull a target from one of those others (especially the MVFC schools) if they actually want that target.

Randy Ball laid a very, very, strong foundation at WIU betwen 1990 and 1999 including conference title teams, and the teams he left for Don Patterson won multipe titles. It took Don Patterson just 4 years to break that foundation to dust (including the teams that won the conference titles)
Joe Glenn has, at most, 3 years left. Maybe he builds a foundation that isn't able to be crumbled when he leaves. He has an okay one now. He doesn't have near the talent that WIU had when Ball left.

Maybe I'm wrong...maybe....


They'll probably have a couple good years every so often - as does MSU and WIU...but I don't know how they overcome where they are starting, especially when it comes to recruiting against SDSU, NDSU, and UNI...add in USF, Augie, and NWMoSt at the D2 level all trying to get big names....they'll get some, but not many.

Randy Ball used a crap load of transfers back then. I think one recruiting class has 1 true freshman.

[unigriff]

clenz...correct me if I'm wrong...we (UNI) very rarely uses true freshman. (unless a stud, or special teams?)

[clenz]

clenz...correct me if I'm wrong...we (UNI) very rarely uses true freshman. (unless a stud, or special teams?)
It doesn't seem to happen often.

I think we've used 4 o5 5 this year.

Jared Farley - for sure
Daurice Fountain - for sure
Jacob Appleman - ?
Preston Woods - ?

There isn't a single senior on the roster (that started their careers here) that didn't red-shirt their freshman year here

Tim Kilfoy (starting safety...started as a true freshman) and Deiondre Hall (starting CB...started as a true freshman) are the only JR to play as a true freshman (including starts)

Jamison Whiting is the only sophomore to play as a true freshman, and started 6 games at DB.

That means out of the 68 (r)So-(r)Sr there are 65 that redshirted.

More freshman have played this year than I remember in the last 5-9 years combined.

Those play play as true freshman here are usually real special players. Heck, DJ and Sawyer didn't play as true freshman.

I'd bet Montana, NDSU, Georgia Southern (when they were FCS), UD (when they were good), EWU, etc.. all have similar numbers. To be a top program you need that depth

[SIUSalukiFan]

What makes you think they'll ever be more than a WIU or MSU style team, occasional good teams but not much more?

WIU is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SIU, ISUr, SEMO, and Drake (yeah...I included Drake). They very rarely pull a target from one of them if those others (especially the MVFC team) actually wants them.
USD is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SDSU, NDSU, Northwest Missouri State, and Drake (Yeah...I included Drake). They rarely pull a target from one of those others (especially the MVFC schools) if they actually want that target.

Randy Ball laid a very, very, strong foundation at WIU betwen 1990 and 1999 including conference title teams, and the teams he left for Don Patterson won multipe titles. It took Don Patterson just 4 years to break that foundation to dust (including the teams that won the conference titles)
Joe Glenn has, at most, 3 years left. Maybe he builds a foundation that isn't able to be crumbled when he leaves. He has an okay one now. He doesn't have near the talent that WIU had when Ball left.

Maybe I'm wrong...maybe....


They'll probably have a couple good years every so often - as does MSU and WIU...but I don't know how they overcome where they are starting, especially when it comes to recruiting against SDSU, NDSU, and UNI...add in USF, Augie, and NWMoSt at the D2 level all trying to get big names....they'll get some, but not many.

I would nitpik with one part of your description ...

Randy Ball did a heckuva job at WIU but his program was built on the backs of I-A transfers. The foundation cracked when he left because Patterson didn't have the same philosophy and wanted to recruit the high school ranks instead of one- and two-year wonders.

[semobison]

What makes you think they'll ever be more than a WIU or MSU style team, occasional good teams but not much more?

WIU is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SIU, ISUr, SEMO, and Drake (yeah...I included Drake). They very rarely pull a target from one of them if those others (especially the MVFC team) actually wants them.
USD is down the line for getting recruits in their area battling UNI, SDSU, NDSU, Northwest Missouri State, and Drake (Yeah...I included Drake). They rarely pull a target from one of those others (especially the MVFC schools) if they actually want that target.

Randy Ball laid a very, very, strong foundation at WIU betwen 1990 and 1999 including conference title teams, and the teams he left for Don Patterson won multipe titles. It took Don Patterson just 4 years to break that foundation to dust (including the teams that won the conference titles)
Joe Glenn has, at most, 3 years left. Maybe he builds a foundation that isn't able to be crumbled when he leaves. He has an okay one now. He doesn't have near the talent that WIU had when Ball left.

Maybe I'm wrong...maybe....


They'll probably have a couple good years every so often - as does MSU and WIU...but I don't know how they overcome where they are starting, especially when it comes to recruiting against SDSU, NDSU, and UNI...add in USF, Augie, and NWMoSt at the D2 level all trying to get big names....they'll get some, but not many.

Pretty hard on a team that you have been having trouble with since 2010. You have had a 5 point win, a 3 point win and a 7 point loss. I think USD is fitting into the Valley nicely. Power running team, gave Montana fits the last two years, beat NAU, a playoff team from last season. Could go 5-3, could go 2-7. You may be correct though, they may never be a elite team, but if UNI doesn't have a great season this year I know if I would call them elite either. Only one season with more than 7 wins since 2010!

[clenz]

Again... What is their record against mvfc teams?

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I'll answer my own question

2-5 (2-6 in all home games as they played 1 in Sioux Falls).
Wins over Indiana State (whom was winless that year) and Missouri State

Against D1, scholarship, teams since they joined GWC in 2008
11-12

Wins against
Combined record of beaten D1 opponents since 2008: 52-73 (41%)


I have no doubt they are better at home than on the road, every team is. UNI wins something like 80% of games in the UNIDome

[semobison]

I'll answer my own question

2-5 (2-6 in all home games as they played 1 in Sioux Falls).
Wins over Indiana State (whom was winless that year) and Missouri State

Against D1, scholarship, teams since they joined GWC in 2008
11-12

Wins against
Combined record of beaten D1 opponents since 2008: 52-73 (41%)


I have no doubt they are better at home than on the road, every team is. UNI wins something like 80% of games in the UNIDome

Since USD joined the Valley UNI is 7-4 at home...don't want to get in a pissing match here, but two years in the Valley doesn't tell you much. USD had 0 wins their first year and 3 their second. Lets see how this year turns out before we start stereotyping them as a year in year out bottom dwellar

[KUlawJack]

Glenn won't leave the cupboard bare for them he leaves, it will be interesting to see what happens with the hire after him. I'm confident that they can screw it up :D

I was talking about NDSU beating up on us and UNI on the recruiting trail, not USD. I really don't even consider them a threat to recruiting at this point. Not saying they won't be, but I can't recall losing many recruiting battles to them in the last few years.

EDIT: To be clear, I think Coach Glenn is a pretty darn good recruiter, but he doesn't have much to work with in the wins department so far.

[Houndawg]

I'll answer my own question

2-5 (2-6 in all home games as they played 1 in Sioux Falls).
Wins over Indiana State (whom was winless that year) and Missouri State

Against D1, scholarship, teams since they joined GWC in 2008
11-12

Wins against
Combined record of beaten D1 opponents since 2008: 52-73 (41%)


I have no doubt they are better at home than on the road, every team is. UNI wins something like 80% of games in the UNIDome

Not SIU

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This is how I think the conference games will go tomorrow:


SDSU @ Ill State: Redbirds pull this out at home

UNI @ Ind State: UNI rolls in this

YSU @ MSU: Tough one to call here. I'll go with the home team

USD @ SIU: SIU wins by 2 TDs at home.

NDSU @ WIU: NDSU wins by 2-3 scores after having a bye week.


** Huge game for SDSU and Ill State. SDSU has a non-counter game this year, small room for error. GOTW in the Valley.

[skinny_uncle]

Can't believe this thread fell to the second page.

[Sycamore62]

It seems like everyone is saying every game will answer a lot of questions but they might leave us with another bunch of questions

[ValleyTalk]

My prediction... 4 of 5 road teams win today: YSU, NDSU, UNI, SDSU

[Thumper 76]

Can barely sit still I'm so pumped for today to get started.

[Yotes]

Thank you all for talking about us. At least semobison gets it and is still connected with reality, some of you guys are incredibly out of touch. Here's what I got for today:

SDSU 28 Illinois State 24
uni 35 Indiana State 28
Youngstown 21 Missouri State 31
NDSU 31 Western Illinois 10
USD 21 Southern Illinois 31

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Thank you all for talking about us. At least semobison gets it and is still connected with reality, some of you guys are incredibly out of touch. Here's what I got for today:

SDSU 28 Illinois State 24
uni 35 Indiana State 28
Youngstown 21 Missouri State 31
NDSU 31 Western Illinois 10
USD 21 Southern Illinois 31


pssttt....I thought you said USD was going to sweep the Valley....xcoffeex

[BisonBacker]

Thank you all for talking about us. At least semobison gets it and is still connected with reality, some of you guys are incredibly out of touch. Here's what I got for today:

SDSU 28 Illinois State 24
uni 35 Indiana State 28
Youngstown 21 Missouri State 31
NDSU 31 Western Illinois 10
USD 21 Southern Illinois 31


pssttt....I thought you said USD was going to sweep the Valley....xcoffeex

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[clenz]

Thank you all for talking about us. At least semobison gets it and is still connected with reality, some of you guys are incredibly out of touch. Here's what I got for today:

SDSU 28 Illinois State 24
uni 35 Indiana State 28
Youngstown 21 Missouri State 31
NDSU 31 Western Illinois 10
USD 21 Southern Illinois 31
Is leaving uni in all lower case but not the rest supposed to be some sort of ****ty disrespect?


Weak

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[Thumper 76]

Is leaving uni in all lower case but not the rest supposed to be some sort of ****ty disrespect?


Weak

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Meh I may have a slight tendency to do that to usd and ndsu......:D

[underdawg]

I know NDSU vs WIU is on espn3 (3 pm) anyone got any FREE links to the other games?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Meh I may have a slight tendency to do that to usd and ndsu......:D


You need to come over from the 'dark side'.....xthumbsupx

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I know NDSU vs WIU is on espn3 (3 pm) anyone got any FREE links to the other games?


Does SIU stream their games on their website?

[clenz]

Meh I may have a slight tendency to do that to usd and ndsu......:D
You consider then rivals.

USD is to UNI as WIU is....

If USD wants a fake rivalry with UNI then so be it i guess

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

You consider then rivals.

USD is to UNI as WIU is....

If USD wants a fake rivalry with UNI then so be it i guess

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I suppose SIU is the traditional rival of UNI but I think NDSU might replace them as UNI's main rival.

[Thumper 76]

You consider then rivals.

USD is to UNI as WIU is....

If USD wants a fake rivalry with UNI then so be it i guess

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Well they have won more in that fake rivalry than they have vs their in state rivals recently :D

[Thumper 76]

You need to come over from the 'dark side'.....xthumbsupx

?

NEVER!!!!!

[BisonFan02]

Well they have won more in that fake rivalry than they have vs their in state rivals recently :D

BOOM SHAKALAKA! xlolx

[semobison]

Thank you all for talking about us. At least semobison gets it and is still connected with reality, some of you guys are incredibly out of touch. Here's what I got for today:

SDSU 28 Illinois State 24
uni 35 Indiana State 28
Youngstown 21 Missouri State 31
NDSU 31 Western Illinois 10
USD 21 Southern Illinois 31

Even though I defended USD's play at home, they have not been very good on the road. They will test SIU but I will be surprised if they get a win in Carbondale today. Got a few other games today I could see going either way. It should be a very interesting opening day in the MVFC!

[Houndawg]

I suppose SIU is the traditional rival of UNI but I think NDSU might replace them as UNI's main rival.

Same result either way.xcoffeex

[frozennorth]

UNI down 14 to ISU-b
SDSU imploding against ISU-R 21-0

[SUPharmacist]

Looks like now 24-0 ISU-R leading SDSU in the 2nd.

[MSUDuo]

Missouri State still sucks. So much for that.

[Twentysix]

YSU MSU live video http://apps.ohlulz.com/ncaa/assets/osmf/StrobeMediaPlayback.swf?src=http://cbsicollege-lh.akamaihd.net/z/463738_mosu9KVMO@133645/manifest.f4m?hdcore=2.10.3&autoPlay=true&verbose=true&controlBarAutoHide=true&controlBarPosition=bottom&javascriptCallbackFunction=jsbridge&plugin_hls=assets/osmf/HLSProviderOSMF.swf&f4m=http://cbsicollege-lh.akamaihd.net/z/463738_mosu9KVMO@133645/manifest.f4m

[DoubleE]

Missouri State still sucks. So much for that.

game is far from over

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you are my hero

[MSUDuo]

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you are my hero
No, no it's not.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Missouri State still sucks. So much for that.


Heck...it is only the 2nd quarter....

[BisonFan02]

a 3 loss UNI team 1 game into the MVFC schedule isn't going to make the postseason...they better get their **** together.

[MSUDuo]

Heck...it is only the 2nd quarter....
Total Yards

YSU- 239
MSU- 77

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Total Yards

YSU- 239
MSU- 77


Bears are marching now.....plenty of game left

[SUPharmacist]

What is going on in these games? Any back and forth or are they all as one sided as the scores look.

[MSUDuo]

Bears are marching now.....plenty of game left
I'm sitting here watching it. We aren't matching anywhere except east and west.

I really do believe if we just fired our OC things could turn around.

[MSUDuo]

What is going on in these games? Any back and forth or are they all as one sided as the scores look.
MSU/YSU is the only one with a huge difference in yardage/stats.

[penguinpower]

No, no it's not.

Reminds me of a Chris Farley line

[RabidRabbit]

Jacks are losing the TO battle big time. That's what's costing the Jacks. Then a F*&king KO TD for the ISU. 31-3 ISU over SDSU.

[DoubleE]

MSU/YSU is the only one with a huge difference in yardage/stats.


good stop by the defense for ya, qb missed a wide open receiver early in the route

[mmiller_34]

We are not good. At least not today. I lost my appetite watching this game.

[centennial]

Jacks are losing the TO battle big time. That's what's costing the Jacks. Then a F*&king KO TD for the ISU. 31-3 ISU over SDSU.
Can't do that to good teams. Hopefully you guys can come back..

[DoubleE]

missouri state fake punt stopped, bad bad call by missouri state, game is too close to give ysu ball in field goal position

[DoubleE]

our QB sucks so bad

[DoubleE]

halftime

YSU 14 Missouri State 0

YSU should have added more to end the half but our QB is inept

[centennial]

MVFC is a complete meat grinder this year..

[DoubleE]

UNI storming back

ISUb14 UNI 10

[DoubleE]

YSU 14 MSU 0
ISUb 14 UNI 13
ISUr 38 SDSU 3

all halftime

[centennial]

YSU 14 MSU 0
ISUb 14 UNI 13
ISUr 38 SDSU 3

all halftime
I made the worst picks I could have..

[RabidRabbit]

YSU 14 MSU 0
ISUb 14 UNI 13
ISUr 38 SDSU 3

all halftime

Yea - Centennial -If USD surprises SIU, I could be 0-4 in the MVFC picks this week.

[MSUDuo]

You get the ball back near midfield with a minute to go and you don't even try. Unbelievable.

[DoubleE]

YSU won 14-7

If Nania starts another game for YSU it will be to many, he is awful

[Yotes]

The SDSU, NDSU, and uni (since it bugs you sooooo much clenz) who think their **** don't stink can come back to earth a bit after how their teams have looked today. USD hasn't played yet today, but apparently even ****ting the bed on the road will meet the conference standards.

[mmiller_34]

It seems as if the MVFC power has shifted east today...

[MSUDuo]

At least we're in good company at the bottom of the pile!

[mmiller_34]

Todays results so far obviously means that the MVFC isn't as strong as we think...

It's EVEN STRONGER. HAIL MVFC.

[Thumper 76]

The SDSU, NDSU, and uni (since it bugs you sooooo much clenz) who think their **** don't stink can come back to earth a bit after how their teams have looked today. USD hasn't played yet today, but apparently even ****ting the bed on the road will meet the conference standards.

Yep. Not up to our standards. Because we have standards, unlike the vermin down south. You guys are just happy to be close.

[penguinpower]

The Penguins looked very good today.

[SeattleGriz]

Todays results so far obviously means that the MVFC isn't as strong as we think...

It's EVEN STRONGER. HAIL MVFC.

Yeah. Those all MVFC semifinals and championships the last few years prove that you are much more than just NDSU.

[Yotes]

Yep. Not up to our standards. Because we have standards, unlike the vermin down south. You guys are just happy to be close.
Stop trying to speak for a fanbase you clearly have no concept of.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Stop trying to speak for a fanbase you clearly have no concept of.


You = troll

[skinny_uncle]

At least we're in good company at the bottom of the pile!

The bottom of our pile could win most leagues.

[mmiller_34]

The SDSU, NDSU, and uni (since it bugs you sooooo much clenz) who think their **** don't stink can come back to earth a bit after how their teams have looked today. USD hasn't played yet today, but apparently even ****ting the bed on the road will meet the conference standards.

I'm so happy for you! Im sure it's exciting be able to see us lose for once!

[mmiller_34]

Yeah. Those all MVFC semifinals and championships the last few years prove that you are much more than just NDSU.

I know, right?

[Thumper 76]

Stop trying to speak for a fanbase you clearly have no concept of.

Again. I'm a Jackrabbit fan. I'll type it slowly for you. I. Am. A. Jackrabbit. Fan. Since you seem to think I'm a bison fan. And you clearly took a shot at SDSU along with UNI. And I have a firm grasp of your fan base. Y'all were pretty satisfied with losing to Montana and are pretty excited about a bunch of close losses last year.

[Thumper 76]

The SDSU, NDSU, and uni (since it bugs you sooooo much clenz) who think their **** don't stink can come back to earth a bit after how their teams have looked today. USD hasn't played yet today, but apparently even ****ting the bed on the road will meet the conference standards.

And our **** sure stank today, but it always stinks in verminburg

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Hey Yotes, go back to DII, you're drunk.

[Bisonator]

I haven't got any Valley games right this week! Wow hopefully the bison can get me one!

[IBleedYellow]

Wow the Valley is going to be a grinder.

[Twentysix]

SDSU and UNI look to be on the ropes for playoff selection already.

Actually, both UNI and SDSU can probably lose one more before being on the ropes.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SDSU and UNI look to be on the ropes for playoff selection already.

Actually, SDSU can probably lose one more before being on the ropes.

I think both teams are done. SDSU's schedule is brutal. There's no way they don't lose at least 2 more games. UNI might have a chance but this seems like another year of failed expectations for the Panthers. Their OOC scheduling never helps them either....

[ValleyTalk]

How about that YSU defense? Took five years but we finally shut down a MVFC offense.

[Twentysix]

I think both teams are done. SDSU's schedule is brutal. There's no way they don't lose at least 2 more games. UNI might have a chance but this seems like another year of failed expectations for the Panthers. Their OOC scheduling never helps them either....

Well, the pair has at least one more guranteed loss cause they play eachother.

[penguinpower]

How about that YSU defense? Took five years but we finally shut down a MVFC offense.

Impressive. Haven't seen that since the Tressel days. Let's hope that wasn't a single game outlier

[DoubleE]

Impressive. Haven't seen that since the Tressel days. Let's hope that wasn't a single game outlier

Lets hope we find a QB so the defense isnt a waste

[Professor Chaos]

I think it's safe to say that 7-1 will obviously win the conference this year but it's more than likely that 6-2 will get you a share if not the outright title.

[BattinRam]

How about that YSU defense? Took five years but we finally shut down a MVFC offense.
Youngstown dominated the trenches today. Their offensive line was blowing the Bears d-line three yards off the line of scrimmage today and Kierra Harris never really had time to throw the ball, he was hurried all day long.

[chattownmocs]

I knew Illinois state was a contender.

[BattinRam]

Wow the Valley is going to be a grinder.
Yep, the bloodbath has begun.

[Theee Catrabbit]

I think both teams are done. SDSU's schedule is brutal. There's no way they don't lose at least 2 more games. UNI might have a chance but this seems like another year of failed expectations for the Panthers. Their OOC scheduling never helps them either....

Well.......I'm not sure where we stand. It sure didn't help. but our backs were against the wall every week last year. UNI and NDSU do not look as invincible as they once were, and those two still have to play Ill St. I agree our schedule is brutal. I still cant say if we **** the bed or not. Two Fumbles and an INT to pretty much start the game is never a good thing.......But....here WE GO!xdrunkyx

My bad....NDSU does not play ISU-R....lucky sunnava......

[FargoBison]

Well.......I'm not sure where we stand. It sure didn't help. but our backs were against the wall every week last year. UNI and NDSU do not look as invincible as they once were, and those two still have to play Ill St. I agree our schedule is brutal. I still cant say if we **** the bed or not. Two Fumbles and an INT to pretty much start the game is never a good thing.......But....here WE GO!xdrunkyx

NDSU and Ill State do not play this year.

[SIUSalukiFan]

I knew Illinois state was a contender.

Here comes a three-game Illinois State losing streak.

[RabidRabbit]

xlolxThe Dreaded Chattown endorsement, eh?xlolxxnodx

[BisonFan02]

xlolxThe Dreaded Chattown endorsement, eh?xlolxxnodx

That, and it is ISUr...they tend to do that. xlolx

[SIUSalukiFan]

xlolxThe Dreaded Chattown endorsement, eh?xlolxxnodx

xlolx

[REALBird]

Birds have already started talking up ISUb. They're a good team and we always have problems playing in Terre Haute. Kids know they need to play them one game at a time. SDSU is already in the rear view mirror, they're focused on the Sycamores.

[Sycamore62]

The better we do the more stressful it is for my old ass. Should be a good homecoming. I'm guessing 25,000 fans at the game. 7,000 will probably bother coming in.

[Sycamore51]

Unlike the rest of the league, we've seen Roberson twice already in his career. Not sure it matters at all, but some of the INST guys may remember some tendencies.

[REALBird]

Unlike the rest of the league, we've seen Roberson twice already in his career. Not sure it matters at all, but some of the INST guys may remember some tendencies.
All very true, lets hope with a new system,a little age and confidence Tre 2.0 is an upgrade and has a few new features from the last time. :)

Honestly,this smells of a trap fame if there was ever one. That stadium scares the bejeezus out of me, its your Homecoming, were on the euphoric high of beating a top 10 team.

Hoping Spacks shows them the tape from several years ago when you guys took us to the shed during your Homecoming to open the Birds Eyes (no pun intended). Maybe he showed them the SDSU Blizzard game where they quit back a few years ago too.

My gut tells me the guys will be excited to get away from Normal for the first time this year. THIS is where we find out what our team is made of.

[Houndawg]

The SDSU, NDSU, and uni (since it bugs you sooooo much clenz) who think their **** don't stink can come back to earth a bit after how their teams have looked today. USD hasn't played yet today, but apparently even ****ting the bed on the road will meet the conference standards.

Way to exceed the standards!

[caribbeanhen]

you guys now know what it felt like to be a CAA guy for that glorious run from about 2003-2010..... enjoy!

[Houndawg]

Yeah. Those all MVFC semifinals and championships the last few years prove that you are much more than just NDSU.

....is somebody a little bit butt hurt about squeaking by at home against the last-place MVC team?xnonox

[ValleyTalk]

Well, hell froze over at the Sports Network this weekend: http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/writers/infcshuddle/archive/haley_10_05_2014.htm

"So two Missouri Valley playoff teams won't be enough. Neither will three. It's a conference that deserves four or five this year."

However, being that I am a Youngstown State fan, it begs to question his playoff pairings. Note the one school, which will likely be Top 10 in the AGS poll and Top 15 in the TSN poll this week that he does not even mention:

South Dakota State/Montana State winner at No. 1 seed North Dakota State

Bethune-Cookman/Richmond winner at No. 8 seed McNeese State

Tennessee State-Chattanooga winner at No. 5 seed Jacksonville State

Fordham/South Carolina State winner at No. 4 seed New Hampshire

Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa winner at No. 3 seed Villanova

Jacksonville/William & Mary winner at No. 6 seed Coastal Carolina

Southern Illinois/Montana winner at No. 7 seed Southeastern Louisiana

Sacred Heart/Illinois State winner at No. 2 seed Eastern Washington

On the at-large bubble: Central Arkansas, Indiana State and Southeast Missouri State

At this point in the year, UNI already has 3 losses, while SDSU has 2. I would like to think ILSU, if they keep it going, will be in the run for a seed. I think Indiana State's resume is as good as anyone and they definitely should be in over a UNI team they just beat! And of course, no mention whatsoever of Youngstown State. Not even on the bubble. But Central Arkanas, who lost to the team YSU just beat, as well as SEMO are on the bubble with Indiana State??? Yeah, okay. I am well aware that YSU has choked the past 3 years and came up 1 game short come of making the playoffs, but they should most certainly be in the conversation, being that most everyone on here pick MSU over YSU and oh yeah, Craig Haley picked MSU over the Guins as well.

Just my 2 cents. FWIW

[Houndawg]

Well, hell froze over at the Sports Network this weekend: http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/writers/infcshuddle/archive/haley_10_05_2014.htm

"So two Missouri Valley playoff teams won't be enough. Neither will three. It's a conference that deserves four or five this year."

However, being that I am a Youngstown State fan, it begs to question his playoff pairings. Note the one school, which will likely be Top 10 in the AGS poll and Top 15 in the TSN poll this week that he does not even mention:

South Dakota State/Montana State winner at No. 1 seed North Dakota State

Bethune-Cookman/Richmond winner at No. 8 seed McNeese State

Tennessee State-Chattanooga winner at No. 5 seed Jacksonville State

Fordham/South Carolina State winner at No. 4 seed New Hampshire

Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa winner at No. 3 seed Villanova

Jacksonville/William & Mary winner at No. 6 seed Coastal Carolina

Southern Illinois/Montana winner at No. 7 seed Southeastern Louisiana

Sacred Heart/Illinois State winner at No. 2 seed Eastern Washington

On the at-large bubble: Central Arkansas, Indiana State and Southeast Missouri State

At this point in the year, UNI already has 3 losses, while SDSU has 2. I would like to think ILSU, if they keep it going, will be in the run for a seed. I think Indiana State's resume is as good as anyone and they definitely should be in over a UNI team they just beat! And of course, no mention whatsoever of Youngstown State. Not even on the bubble. But Central Arkanas, who lost to the team YSU just beat, as well as SEMO are on the bubble with Indiana State??? Yeah, okay. I am well aware that YSU has choked the past 3 years and came up 1 game short come of making the playoffs, but they should most certainly be in the conversation, being that most everyone on here pick MSU over YSU and oh yeah, Craig Haley picked MSU over the Guins as well.

Just my 2 cents. FWIW

I hope he's right. We have our next six games against ranked teams.

My guess is that this year total wins will be more important to the committee than strength of schedule.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Not to toot any horns but aren't ya glad you let NDSU in?

xthumbsupx33-20 in the playoffs including 13-1 from NDSU.

[Houndawg]

Not to toot any horns but aren't ya glad you let NDSU in?

xthumbsupx33-20 in the playoffs including 13-1 from NDSU.

Yeah but their fans are white wine drinkers.



:D

[DoubleE]

Not to toot any horns but aren't ya glad you let NDSU in?

xthumbsupx33-20 in the playoffs including 13-1 from NDSU.

It was a nice replacement for Western Kentucky

[DoubleE]

So is game of the week ISUr vs ISUb or NDSU vs SIU ?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

So is game of the week ISUr vs ISUb or NDSU vs SIU ?

flip a coin. I am very interested to see the ISUs play.

[Houndawg]

ISUs will be the better game, SIU has no chance in Fargo on homecoming.

[skinny_uncle]

So is game of the week ISUr vs ISUb or NDSU vs SIU ?

My homer side says NDSU vs. SIU. It looks like a lot of Valley games will be matchups between ranked teams this year.

[MSUDuo]

Yikes. Looks like MO State should stay in the top 25 considering a ton of teams lost right behind us as well

[Nova09]

Is it possible that rather than being THE BEST CONFERENCE OF ALL TIME ZOMG OUR WINNER SHOULD GET AN AUTOMATIC ENTRY IN THE SUPER BOWL AND 2ND PLACE SHOULD PLAY THE WINNER OF NFC WEST FOR THE OTHER SPOT the MVFC is actually just a bunch of above average teams that does well out of conference against mostly average to below average competition but no one is really elite?














*I say this as someone who has not seen any FCS-FCS MVFC action other than some of the 2nd half of NDSU-WIU so this is in no way a conclusion I've drawn, just throwing it out there

[Professor Chaos]

Is it possible that rather than being THE BEST CONFERENCE OF ALL TIME ZOMG OUR WINNER SHOULD GET AN AUTOMATIC ENTRY IN THE SUPER BOWL AND 2ND PLACE SHOULD PLAY THE WINNER OF NFC WEST FOR THE OTHER SPOT the MVFC is actually just a bunch of above average teams that does well out of conference against mostly average to below average competition but no one is really elite?














*I say this as someone who has not seen any FCS-FCS MVFC action other than some of the 2nd half of NDSU-WIU so this is in no way a conclusion I've drawn, just throwing it out there
No

[skinny_uncle]

Is it possible that rather than being THE BEST CONFERENCE OF ALL TIME ZOMG OUR WINNER SHOULD GET AN AUTOMATIC ENTRY IN THE SUPER BOWL AND 2ND PLACE SHOULD PLAY THE WINNER OF NFC WEST FOR THE OTHER SPOT the MVFC is actually just a bunch of above average teams that does well out of conference against mostly average to below average competition but no one is really elite?














*I say this as someone who has not seen any FCS-FCS MVFC action other than some of the 2nd half of NDSU-WIU so this is in no way a conclusion I've drawn, just throwing it out there

Easy there, big boy. We know you are out there and you should get a chance to prove your worth in the playoffs. Don't be surprised if you end up in a match-up with a Valley team. Outside the Valley, you are one of the nightmare match-ups.

[Nova09]

Easy there, big boy. We know you are out there and you should get a chance to prove your worth in the playoffs. Don't be surprised if you end up in a match-up with a Valley team.

It wasn't about my team, I won't be confident heading into tough playoff matchups unless a soccer player decides he wants to be a part of a playoff run and shows he can put that oblong ball through the uprights

[penguinpower]

Is it possible that rather than being THE BEST CONFERENCE OF ALL TIME ZOMG OUR WINNER SHOULD GET AN AUTOMATIC ENTRY IN THE SUPER BOWL AND 2ND PLACE SHOULD PLAY THE WINNER OF NFC WEST FOR THE OTHER SPOT the MVFC is actually just a bunch of above average teams that does well out of conference against mostly average to below average competition but no one is really elite?














*I say this as someone who has not seen any FCS-FCS MVFC action other than some of the 2nd half of NDSU-WIU so this is in no way a conclusion I've drawn, just throwing it out there



It doesn't help that your conference has many losses to the little sisters of the poor

[SIUSalukiFan]

ISUs will be the better game, SIU has no chance in Fargo on homecoming.

Exactly.

[Daved]

Yikes. Looks like MO State should stay in the top 25 considering a ton of teams lost right behind us as wellAgreed--I bet even a few of the teams that lost were good teams:D

[Cocky]

Well, hell froze over at the Sports Network this weekend: http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/writers/infcshuddle/archive/haley_10_05_2014.htm

"So two Missouri Valley playoff teams won't be enough. Neither will three. It's a conference that deserves four or five this year."

However, being that I am a Youngstown State fan, it begs to question his playoff pairings. Note the one school, which will likely be Top 10 in the AGS poll and Top 15 in the TSN poll this week that he does not even mention:

South Dakota State/Montana State winner at No. 1 seed North Dakota State

Bethune-Cookman/Richmond winner at No. 8 seed McNeese State

Tennessee State-Chattanooga winner at No. 5 seed Jacksonville State

Fordham/South Carolina State winner at No. 4 seed New Hampshire

Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa winner at No. 3 seed Villanova

Jacksonville/William & Mary winner at No. 6 seed Coastal Carolina

Southern Illinois/Montana winner at No. 7 seed Southeastern Louisiana

Sacred Heart/Illinois State winner at No. 2 seed Eastern Washington

On the at-large bubble: Central Arkansas, Indiana State and Southeast Missouri State

At this point in the year, UNI already has 3 losses, while SDSU has 2. I would like to think ILSU, if they keep it going, will be in the run for a seed. I think Indiana State's resume is as good as anyone and they definitely should be in over a UNI team they just beat! And of course, no mention whatsoever of Youngstown State. Not even on the bubble. But Central Arkanas, who lost to the team YSU just beat, as well as SEMO are on the bubble with Indiana State??? Yeah, okay. I am well aware that YSU has choked the past 3 years and came up 1 game short come of making the playoffs, but they should most certainly be in the conversation, being that most everyone on here pick MSU over YSU and oh yeah, Craig Haley picked MSU over the Guins as well.

Just my 2 cents. FWIW
SEMO has beaten two teams in this playoff bracket with one being seated? Tn St has a tough road to get in. I would have more than 3 bubble team this early.

[citdog]

Is it possible that rather than being THE BEST CONFERENCE OF ALL TIME ZOMG OUR WINNER SHOULD GET AN AUTOMATIC ENTRY IN THE SUPER BOWL AND 2ND PLACE SHOULD PLAY THE WINNER OF NFC WEST FOR THE OTHER SPOT the MVFC is actually just a bunch of above average teams that does well out of conference against mostly average to below average competition but no one is really elite?














*I say this as someone who has not seen any FCS-FCS MVFC action other than some of the 2nd half of NDSU-WIU so this is in no way a conclusion I've drawn, just throwing it out there

You forgot about Chatty. The road to the Super Bowl goes through Chattanooga.

[SIUSalukiFan]

Well, hell froze over at the Sports Network this weekend: http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/writers/infcshuddle/archive/haley_10_05_2014.htm

"So two Missouri Valley playoff teams won't be enough. Neither will three. It's a conference that deserves four or five this year."

However, being that I am a Youngstown State fan, it begs to question his playoff pairings. Note the one school, which will likely be Top 10 in the AGS poll and Top 15 in the TSN poll this week that he does not even mention:

South Dakota State/Montana State winner at No. 1 seed Chattanooga

Bethune-Cookman/Richmond winner at No. 8 seed Southeastern Louisiana

Tennessee State-McNeese State winner at No. 5 seed New Hampshire

Fordham/South Carolina State winner at No. 4 seed Villanova

Eastern Kentucky/Northern Iowa winner at No. 3 seed Eastern Washington

Jacksonville/William & Mary winner at No. 6 seed Jacksonville State

Southern Illinois/Montana winner at No. 7 seed Coastal Carolina

Sacred Heart/Illinois State winner at No. 2 seed North Dakota State

On the at-large bubble: Central Arkansas, Indiana State and Southeast Missouri State

At this point in the year, UNI already has 3 losses, while SDSU has 2. I would like to think ILSU, if they keep it going, will be in the run for a seed. I think Indiana State's resume is as good as anyone and they definitely should be in over a UNI team they just beat! And of course, no mention whatsoever of Youngstown State. Not even on the bubble. But Central Arkanas, who lost to the team YSU just beat, as well as SEMO are on the bubble with Indiana State??? Yeah, okay. I am well aware that YSU has choked the past 3 years and came up 1 game short come of making the playoffs, but they should most certainly be in the conversation, being that most everyone on here pick MSU over YSU and oh yeah, Craig Haley picked MSU over the Guins as well.

Just my 2 cents. FWIW

The Sports Network has issued a correction

I made the changes above.

[Jason Svoboda]

Trust me...I don't forget when people say stupid **** like this.


Outside of the Shakir Bell years Indiana State has 9 MVFC wins, total, since the turn of the century...and 6 of those were before the start of the 03 season


Even with the Bell years thrown in there is still only 18 conference wins since the turn of the century

Well, add one more to that count.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Well, add one more to that count.

He's currently sitting shiva. Im dying to see what he has to say when he comes out of mourning.

[Houndawg]

He's currently sitting shiva. Im dying to see what he has to say when he comes out of mourning.

I suspect that after a thorough review we will find that the officiating was substandard....

[BisonFan02]

I suspect that after a thorough review we will find that the officiating was substandard....

Unlikely....probably just ramping up the campaign to fire their OC.

[Sycamore62]

I've long been on record with my belief Indiana State is by far the west D1, non HBCU, scholarship program in America.

Historically that may still be true but it's clear that Indiana State, while still likely to be rolled by 21 plus weekly in the MVFC would be a middle of the pack OVC team.


What does that tell you about the MVFC?
Wow

Its gonna take a little while to go through all of these.

[Sycamore62]

You think Indiana State wins 5 mvfc games this year?


I've never done an illegal drug in my life, but PLEASE send me whatever it is that you're on if you really believe that.

1 down. Honestly this wasn't one I was banking on.

[CommishBigSmooth]

It wasn't about my team, I won't be confident heading into tough playoff matchups unless a soccer player decides he wants to be a part of a playoff run and shows he can put that oblong ball through the uprights

Georgia Southern tried that a few years ago in the Fargodome. Ask them how well that turned out.

[Houndawg]

Its gonna take a little while to go through all of these.

Take your time, we'll wait. And have a good time, you deserve it; clenz wasn't the only one wrong about the trees.xembarrassedx

If you had told me that after the ISU/UNI game in week 6 that one of the teams would be all but eliminated from the playoff already, very few would have guessed that team would be UNI. That must be frustrating as hell year after year.

[MR. CHICKEN]

19803.....IT'S DUH MONEY GAMES.......DAT DO 'EM IN......DEY COME.....SOFTEND UP.......FO' CONFERENCE PLAY....xtwocentsx....BRAWK!

PS.......GUILTY.......AH WAS ALSO.....INCORRECT.......ON MAH ANALYSIS..O' INDIANA STATE......COODN'T SEE DUH TREES...FO' DUH FOREST..........xembarrassedxxembarrassedx........ .AWK!

[Houndawg]

19803.....IT'S DUH MONEY GAMES.......DAT DO 'EM IN......DEY COME.....SOFTEND UP.......FO' CONFERENCE PLAY....xtwocentsx....BRAWK!

PS.......GUILTY.......AH WAS ALSO.....INCORRECT.......ON MAH ANALYSIS..O' INDIANA STATE......COODN'T SEE DUH TREES...FO' DUH FOREST..........xembarrassedxxembarrassedx........ .AWK!

I think they just ran into a fired up team this time...

[dewey]

I remember laughing at the idea of Indiana State being competitive this year. I like my crow a medium rare please.

Congratulations to the Sycamore fans out there on the season so far.

Dewey

[Bisonator]

Take your time, we'll wait. And have a good time, you deserve it; clenz wasn't the only one wrong about the trees.xembarrassedx

If you had told me that after the ISU/UNI game in week 6 that one of the teams would be all but eliminated from the playoff already, very few would have guessed that team would be UNI. That must be frustrating as hell year after year.

I sure didn't see ISU turning it around like they have in 1 year. It's nothing short of miraculous!

[SIUSalukiFan]

I sure didn't see ISU turning it around like they have in 1 year. It's nothing short of miraculous!

I think the problem many had was forgetting Indiana State had a decent foundation in place when Miles left, then last year's debacle made it look as if the program was falling back into the abyss.

I'm not much of a Mike Sanford fan, but the Sycamores got killed by injuries last year.

[Sycamore62]

I think the problem many had was forgetting Indiana State had a decent foundation in place when Miles left, then last year's debacle made it look as if the program was falling back into the abyss.

I'm not much of a Mike Sanford fan, but the Sycamores got killed by injuries last year.

Looks like the TSN voters forgot too. I think they are voting on how they think their records will be rather than how their records will get to that.

[IndyTreeFan]

I think the problem many had was forgetting Indiana State had a decent foundation in place when Miles left, then last year's debacle made it look as if the program was falling back into the abyss.

I'm not much of a Mike Sanford fan, but the Sycamores got killed by injuries last year.

I think we had a wide receiver playing QB in our last game last season...xeyebrowx

[SIUSalukiFan]

I think we had a wide receiver playing QB in our last game last season...xeyebrowx

You did. It was ridiculous.

I didn't think Miles left you guys in such dire straits. This year is proving there is still talent on hand.

[IndyTreeFan]

You did. It was ridiculous.

I didn't think Miles left you guys in such dire straits. This year is proving there is still talent on hand.

Make no mistake - Miles left a few good players, and the rest weren't much. Sanford and Company has infused a huge amount of talent into the program between last year and this. His last couple of classes, Miles was recruiting players whose only other offers came from the likes of Ohio Dominican. That's not good. He got out while the gettin' was good. Can't blame him, though. He left town as a virtual football god who is revered. I'm not a fan, though...

[SIUSalukiFan]

Make no mistake - Miles left a few good players, and the rest weren't much. Sanford and Company has infused a huge amount of talent into the program between last year and this. His last couple of classes, Miles was recruiting players whose only other offers came from the likes of Ohio Dominican. That's not good. He got out while the gettin' was good. Can't blame him, though. He left town as a virtual football god who is revered. I'm not a fan, though...

If things start going downhill don't be surprised if Sanford blames the administration. That's what he did at UNLV. :)

[Sycamore62]

If things start going downhill don't be surprised if Sanford blames the administration. That's what he did at UNLV. :)

He might have been right. I dont have a lot of knowledge about that though.

Any ISUb coach from 1995 to the current AD's start has a legit gripe with the previous administration, Id almost give Lou West a little bit of a pass because of her but then he lost my sympathy by getting worse.

[SIUSalukiFan]

He might have been right. I dont have a lot of knowledge about that though.

Any ISUb coach from 1995 to the current AD's start has a legit gripe with the previous administration, Id almost give Lou West a little bit of a pass because of her but then he lost my sympathy by getting worse.

He wasn't. :)

But, I wish no ill will. I hope you guys win every game left on your schedule but one.

[IndyTreeFan]

If things start going downhill don't be surprised if Sanford blames the administration. That's what he did at UNLV. :)

UNLV was, and is, a dumpster fire. If he blamed anyone, it should have been his agent for convincing him to take that job in the first place... xsmiley_wix

[underdawg]

Who the hell said he was a bad coach? it's just that he was a smart coach too.

By the way herder--Mike Reis SIU's Hall of Fame Broadcaster confirmed tonight that Jerry Kill had said what I related about not wanting the Dakotas in the MVFC is 100% correct--maybe you ought to do your research before blathering on line

[Jason Svoboda]

If things start going downhill don't be surprised if Sanford blames the administration. That's what he did at UNLV. :)

It was, is and always will be. I grew up in Las Vegas and there is no support for that program by ANYONE, administration, faculty, students, locals. Most of the tickets given away were comps from casinos because my family always had seats and never once were they purchased. Because they're also in Vegas, they got very little media coverage.

[DoubleE]

how did this get on second page ?

[skinny_uncle]

how did this get on second page ?

It's hard to believe that could happen.

[Sycamore62]

It's hard to believe that could happen.

Nobody to argue with

[Thumper 76]

According to Terry V's Twitter Sumner's looking at being back in 3 weeks

[Sycamore62]

This might need its own thread but does anyone have stats or win/loss record teams that are ranked vs other teams that are ranked or not ranked? For example, how often toes a higher rank win or which polls are the most accurate?

[Bisonator]

According to Terry V's Twitter Sumner's looking at being back in 3 weeks

So just in time for the border battle huh?:D

[skinny_uncle]

This might need its own thread but does anyone have stats or win/loss record teams that are ranked vs other teams that are ranked or not ranked? For example, how often toes a higher rank win or which polls are the most accurate?
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