GDT: NDSU @ Iowa St. - 8/30/14

[BisonFan02]

Looks like I'll get it started! Gameday thread convo here. Excited to see the makeup of the "new" Bison. xthumbsupx

[BisonFan02]

Game is at noon eastern time/11am Central on Fox Sports 1 for those interested!

[centennial]

I am nervous for this game. Hopefully we squeak it out.

[Twentysix]

I just found out FS1 has a streaming site like espn3.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I am nervous for this game. Hopefully we squeak it out.


ISU's defense was horrible last year and I don't expect them to be markedly improved by today.

The Cyclone offense will probably move the ball some but I suspect our defense will be just fine.

Our O-line needs to play well today. They have a good game this game will be a 2 TD win for the Bison. ISU could not stop the run last year and the Bison will exploit that.

[Twentysix]

31-21 Bison

[Drblankstare]

The Bison have lost a lot on both sides of the line. It's hard to replace those guys, they still have talent there, but the question is how long it will take them to gel. I think it's going to be a close game.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

31-21 Bison


I thought 31-17 Bison.....tomato/tomato.....xthumbsupx


Bison win this!!

[Laker]

With an 11:00 CDT start I'm going to skip Farmer's Market in Buffalo Lake today. I wonder how many Bison fans are in Ames this morning.

I did start out my breakfast with Central Florida v State Penn in Dublin on TV. PSU up 20-10.

[BisonFan02]

dode ‏@mason_dotyUSA 1m (https://twitter.com/mason_dotyUSA/status/505729604422995968) Maybe I should've wore a NDSU shirt. Would've fit in better. It's embarrassing to have more bison fans here

[centennial]

ISU's defense was horrible last year and I don't expect them to be markedly improved by today.

The Cyclone offense will probably move the ball some but I suspect our defense will be just fine.

Our O-line needs to play well today. They have a good game this game will be a 2 TD win for the Bison. ISU could not stop the run last year and the Bison will exploit that.
We lost a bunch of starters. I still think we win.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

With an 11:00 CDT start I'm going to skip Farmer's Market in Buffalo Lake today. I wonder how many Bison fans are in Ames this morning.

I did start out my breakfast with Central Florida v State Penn in Dublin on TV. PSU up 20-10.



5-6K Bison fans are expected today.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

We lost a bunch of starters. I still think we win.


The 18 seniors in this class have played a lot of football.

I don't think ISU will be able to stop the Bison running game.

[BisonFan02]

The Bison just need to settle in....survive the first few series and take over....get their "feet wet" so to speak.

[BisonFan02]

Come on DL! That is where to watch for NDSU...key to season.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That could/will be a big injury for ISU...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Impressive drive for the Cyclones!

[centennial]

This new offense is impressive.

[Drblankstare]

The ball is really zipping out of Wentz hand

[fmrbearkat]

What did that ISU coach pull out of cotton Maya's shoulder pads?

[Drblankstare]

Wentz just missed Crockett on a wheel for a TD. Big miss

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bison need to get to the line quicker. Play clock is running down every play....

[Drblankstare]

Bison need to get to the line quicker. Play clock is running down every play....
Wonder if this is a coaching issue not getting the play in fast enough

[Bisonator]

Not a great start for the Bison. Need to get those plays in faster. Not quite in sync yet.

[Drblankstare]

Other than the fumble from center, Wentz looked sharp in his first drive.

[fmrbearkat]

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19591

Anybody have any ideas?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

NDSU, to this point, is not nearly as good in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Granted, this is against a Big 12 team...

[BEAR]

Iowa State eating the clock with those short runs.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

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19591

Anybody have any ideas?

I noticed that too...

[Drblankstare]

19591

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19591

Anybody have any ideas?
Looks like that's where Rhodes keeps his key fob to his Mercedes

[centennial]

More Iowa state players injured

[Thumper 76]

NDSU, to this point, is not nearly as good in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Granted, this is against a Big 12 team...

Not shockig considering what they lost there despite assertations from NDSU fans that there would be no drop off.

[Drblankstare]

Iowa St O just taking whatever is open. Nothing big just smart plays

[Drblankstare]

End of 1st Iowa st up 7. Bison don't looked particularly sharp on either side of the ball so far

[Bisonator]

Polasek needs to get plays in faster or let Carson call his own. Good grief.

[centennial]

I think we are settling down.

[fencer24]

Stick a fork in it.

[Drblankstare]

TD Iowa St quickly 14-0

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD Cyclones! A big punt return, big pass play and then a run right up the gut for a TD....

[centennial]

This is starting to look ominous

[mmiller_34]

Wow. This looks like a completely different Bison team. I feel they they aren't showing any heart on defense.

[Bisonator]

If we can't control the los any better then that its gonna be a long day.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This is starting to look ominous

Iowa State looks bigger and faster. NDSU is not nearly as physically imposing as they've been in the past....

[fencer24]

Bohl may have been a bigger factor than the players. Which is not good for my Grizzlies at Wyoming today.

[Drblankstare]

It's pretty simple right now. Bison O has to score before half. They have to start running with some purpose

[Drblankstare]

Yeah that will work. Lol

[mmiller_34]

That's what the Bison needed!

[clenz]

NdSU looks more than human today.

As for what was pulled out of the pads i know some programs/players are wearing sensors that track movement, g force, etc... I'd bet that's it

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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

What a huge response for the Bison!! TD!! Crockett 80 yards...

[Bisonator]

Yeah touchdown Taz!

[BisonFan02]

NdSU looks more than human today.

As for what was pulled out of the pads i know some programs/players are wearing sensors that track movement, g force, etc... I'd bet that's it

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This....they monitor impact and temp I believe.

[Drblankstare]

Good series for the Bison D force the 3 and out and punt. New game if they can score on this drive

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Bison D forces a big 3 and out....

[Drblankstare]

Wentz to Vraa down at the 1. Long developing pass play there

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

The Crockett TD completely changed this game. The NDSU QB is going to be really good...

[Drblankstare]

TD Crockett to tie it up. Pending xp

[BEAR]

TD!!!!

[Bisonator]

Yes. Back in this thing now!

[Drblankstare]

The Crockett TD completely changed this game. The NDSU QB is going to be really good...
He's got a big arm, My brother in law calls him a Juggs machine with legs. Lol

[centennial]

TD bison

[McNeese72]

I've been watching some of this game. Looks like the Bison are starting to wear on Iowa St.

[Drblankstare]

Heagle and Dudezik down. This could be very bad if there not back

[BisonFan02]

Wind knocked out probably

[dwtime]

Great defense but the Bison wiped out half their defensive backfield on the play hope they just knocked the wind out of each other

[Red & Black]

That was a nasty collision. Hope those dudes are ok.


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[dwtime]

Sick move to get that first down

[Red & Black]

Hell yeah! Nice one NDSU.


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[BEAR]

INT!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow! What a huge INT!

[Drblankstare]

Dudezik with a pick on tip pass, Bison D with a huge turnover. IST was driving late in the half

[dwtime]

Great defense by the Bison nice return on the INT

[Red & Black]

Momentum swing right there.


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[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Two early Payton Finalists...

Robertson from 'Nova and Crockett from NDSU...

[BisonFan02]

Inexperience showed there....coaching and players a bit.

[Drblankstare]

Inexperience showed there....coaching and players a bit.
Yeah that was bungled a little at the end. All in all quite the 2nd quarter for the Bison

[dwtime]

LOL did Wentz purposefully put only one eye black sticker on or did one fall off? Good half for the Bison from what I saw.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

What a second quarter for the Bison. Iowa State's offense still has an advantage in space imo but the Bison D in general is tough as nails.....

Bison OL really played better as the half went on....

[Drblankstare]

Dave Wannstdt says with a straight face that Iowa St has the superior talent, on the halftime show. SMH

[Bisonator]

Should have got a TD there. Kliemen should have used a TO after that first down run by Taz. Oh well the half ended better then it started!

[Twentysix]

Stick a fork in it.

You must be new. NDSU thrives in the 4th quarter.

[BisonFan02]

Dave Wannstdt says with a straight face that Iowa St has the superior talent, on the halftime show. SMH

Just another job Wannstedt can get canned doing.

[Bisonoline]

Dave Wannstdt says with a straight face that Iowa St has the superior talent, on the halftime show. SMH

Theres a reason he isnt coaching anymore.

[Drblankstare]

Bad series to start the half for the Bison 3 and out

[Drblankstare]

Bison getting beat my Richardsons legs. Time to spy

[Drblankstare]

Flag again erases a nice punt return for the Bison. I didn't see it, but I don't count

[Bisonator]

Gotta clean up the penalties.

[Lehigh'98]

Well I'll be damned, NDSU still looks good. Thought they might catch a beat down in this spot losing a bunch from LY. Still have lots of talent on the field.

[Drblankstare]

In the past this where the Bison online turns on the meat grinder. Can this new group do the same.

[Drblankstare]

My God, Iowa St players dropping like flies right now

[citdog]

My God, Iowa St players dropping like flies right now

Y'all are more physical than them when you have the ball.

[dwtime]

Nice Bison drive so far.

[Drblankstare]

Bison O is putting the boots to that tired D right now

[BisonFan02]

Run the ****ing ball!

[Bisonator]

Why didn't we run down there once?

[Drblankstare]

Beautiful drive for the Bison stalls at the 5. Keller with the FG. Bison up 6

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Run the ****ing ball!
This

[Bisonator]

Fire Polasek save season! Too soon?

[Drblankstare]

Fire Polasek save season! Too soon?
So many reppies for that. Lol

[BisonFan02]

Fire Polasek save season! Too soon?

Haha...way too soon...but two deep drives into their red zone and only 6 points could haunt NDSU.

[Red & Black]

6 point lead...not enough. Would have been nice to see the running game down around the goal line.


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[Bison56]

Need to pound those in.

[citdog]

Need to pound those in.


TWSS

Totally agree but y'all are leaning on them.......

[Bison56]

INT!!!!!!

[Drblankstare]

Pick on a tip for the Bison D.

[bluedog]

Great INT!

[Drblankstare]

NDSU could put the first nail in the coffin if they score a TD here

[Bison56]

Need, no want a td here.

[dwtime]

Great call on third down there, NDSU looking good.

[citdog]

cyclowns getting a little chippy

[Bisonator]

Pound this in now!

[Drblankstare]

TD Crockett

[Bisonator]

Yes!

[BisonFan02]

Pound the rock!!!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

NDSU is beastly. They completely took control of this game on Crockett's TD run. Their ability to control the LOS after a shaky start is scary....

[Drblankstare]

Bison coaches didn't eff around this time. Down the throat

[Bison56]

Are we going to see Iowa State lose their composure?

[citdog]

Are we going to see Iowa State lose their poise?

Did you not see that hands to face penalty? Dude HAD to MEAN to do that. He's getting WHIPPED EVERY PLAY.

[Drblankstare]

The Iowa St D looked defeated on that drive.

[Bison56]

Did you not see that hands to face penalty? Dude HAD to MEAN to do that. He's getting WHIPPED EVERY PLAY.

Yes i did I'm just wondering if it's a start to an implosion.

[mmiller_34]

Glad to know that 1st quarter was a fluke. UNI needs to get up on Iowa now. C'mon MVFC!

[Drblankstare]

I don't even know what to say. NDSU just abusing the clones on both sides of the ball right now.

[Bisonator]

So much for the Mangenious!

[Red & Black]

NDSU now taking over.


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[BisonFan02]

4 down territory....break their spirit.

[Drblankstare]

4 down territory....break their spirit.
Sweep the leg

[BisonFan02]

Well...not now xlolx

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I just don't understand why the Bison abandon the run at times like that....I know you have to keep them honest, but ISU is on their heels.

[Drblankstare]

Why not just run it twice there?

[BisonFan02]

Why not just run it twice there?

Bingo....get a first down or make it 4th and short...

[Drblankstare]

Well at least the clones punter looks decent

[dwtime]

Too bad on the run, Iowa State is being taken to the woodshed.

[BisonFan02]

Iowa State is our bitch.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

flat out domination!!

[Bisonator]

And there is your dagger!

[KnightoftheRedFlash]

There goes the ISU fans.

[Drblankstare]

66 yard TD for Morlock. Bison up 34-14

[Bison56]

TD!!!!!!!!!! Morlock!!!!!

[centennial]

Lol at Iowa State

[dwtime]

19592

[Drblankstare]

Bison fans won't get their well deserved comeuppance today. Lol

[chattownmocs]

I'd love to hate. But NDSU looks awesome.

[Thumper 76]

Congrats and way to go NDSU! Get that FBS scalp!

[Grizalltheway]

I'd love to hate. But NDSU looks awesome.
Indeed. It looks like we'll be up against it in Fargo.

[centennial]

Iowa State isn't as bad as some people are calling them. They could still win 4-5 games.

[Drblankstare]

That will do it. NDSU 34 Iowa St 14. Bison score 34 unanswered. I shutter to think how ugly this would have been, if NDSU showed up at all in the 1st q

[Cleets]

I think the officiating crew called back 200 yards worth of running plays against NDSU (thank goodness) or this game might have been 56 - 14
The 2nd half of this football game was NOT competitive at all
NDSU did whatever they wanted on BOTH SIDES of the ball

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

What a beat down!!!!!!

Love the defensive adjustments made after the 1st 2 ISU scores. they didn't do squat after that.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I see Plankers (70) was in the game. Wonder if his big body helped to open up holes right up the middle?

Bison rush for over 260 yards.....xlolx

To beat the Bison, a FCS team better have a good defense...xnodx

[veinup]

congrats bison! well played.

[BisonBacker]

Good teams just reload. NDSU reloaded not only on players but coaches as well. That was a beat down of a Big Ten team albeit a bad Big ten team.

[Hammerhead]

Bison now own the record for longest winning streak in the FCS. I think they are also tied for 2nd if you count the years when the NCAA just had the university and college divisions.

[BisonFan02]

Good teams just reload. NDSU reloaded not only on players but coaches as well. That was a beat down of a Big Ten team albeit a bad Big ten team.

Big 12 team...................

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Good teams just reload. NDSU reloaded not only on players but coaches as well. That was a beat down of a Big Ten team albeit a bad Big ten team.


Great read over on Iowa State's fan forum....xnodx

Better team won today. NDSU was head and shoulders above ISU

[kdinva]

The Bizon keep a rollin'

[skinny_uncle]

Congrats, Bison.

[SiouxFallsJack]

Congrats Bison!

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Excellent work out there by the Bison.xthumbsupx

[chattanoogamocs]

It begs the question...why would any mid-level P5 team ever schedule NDSU?

Sounds like career suicide for the big school coach.

[chattanoogamocs]

I am not sure if it has been listed elsewhere, but here ya go...

2014 W Iowa State 34-14
2013 W Kansas State 24-21
2012 W Colorado State 22-7
2011 W Minnesota 37-24
2010 W Kansas 6-3
2009 L Iowa State 17-34
2008 L Wyoming 13-16
2007 W Central Michigan 44-14
2007 W Minnesota 27-21
2006 W Ball State 29-24
2006 L Minnesota 9-10

8 for 11 with 2 losses by 3 points or less by a school that was playing DII in 2003. Unfrickingbelievable.

You know how they call moderate Republicans a RINO? I think I am going to start calling NDSU a FICO...FCS in name only.

[SUPharmacist]

Not sure they still will, I think Iowa is the only FBS currently lined up for a future game.

[Bisonator]

Yeah we've played ourselves out of the B1G and B12. Maybe the SEC will step up. :D

[Red & Black]

Very impressive performance by NDSU today. That second half was pure domination. Bison don't seem to have missed a beat at all. The only real weakness I saw from the defense, if you could call it that, is that it seemed that NDSU had trouble containing their mobile QB at times when he took off and ran.


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Very impressive performance by NDSU today. That second half was pure domination. Bison don't seem to have missed a beat at all. The only real weakness I saw from the defense, if you could call it that, is that it seemed that NDSU had trouble containing their mobile QB at times when he took off and ran.


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Usually the only player not accounted for on a play. He scrambled well.

[IBleedYellow]

Their quarterback gave me fits. So frustrating when you can watch a guy run like that all over your defense.

In the end it wasn't too bad, though.

[GABison]

I am not sure if it has been listed elsewhere, but here ya go...

2014 W Iowa State 34-14
2013 W Kansas State 24-21
2012 W Colorado State 22-7
2011 W Minnesota 37-24
2010 W Kansas 6-3
2009 L Iowa State 17-34
2008 L Wyoming 13-16
2007 W Central Michigan 44-14
2007 W Minnesota 27-21
2006 W Ball State 29-24
2006 L Minnesota 9-10

8 for 11 with 2 losses by 3 points or less by a school that was playing DII in 2003. Unfrickingbelievable.

You know how they call moderate Republicans a RINO? I think I am going to start calling NDSU a FICO...FCS in name only.

Nice post, mocs! Thanks!

Some have said NDSU is a FBS program in FCS clothing.

[BisonBacker]

Big 12 team...................
My bad I've had a few today lol

[Lehigh'98]

Congrats Bison, still look a step above the FCS.

[Twentysix]

Very impressive performance by NDSU today. That second half was pure domination. Bison don't seem to have missed a beat at all. The only real weakness I saw from the defense, if you could call it that, is that it seemed that NDSU had trouble containing their mobile QB at times when he took off and ran.


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In games where the QB isn't a HUGE running threat that has been a weakness of NDSU since I was a freshman in '07, possibly earlier. That being said, it hasn't been a dealbreaker very often.

[bonarae]

Congratulations NDSU. Deserving for being the first FBS slayer of 2014. (Am I right?)

[RabidRabbit]

Congrats on setting the new standard for wins in a row by taking down yet another P5 football program. Was hoping that there'd be a bigger drop-off in talent from last year (yes, I have on my blue/yellow lens), but sure didn't show it vs IA St.

New win, and great show on how to play with Big Boys. Seriously, I think it'll take a top 15 FBS team returning a lot to knock off Bison in first game of season. As your rival and move-up partner, you're a tough group to measure up with. Good thing about WBB! LOL.

[tomq04]

Total domination in the 2nd half. Great Game!

[Red & Black]

In games where the QB isn't a HUGE running threat that has been a weakness of NDSU since I was a freshman in '07, possibly earlier. That being said, it hasn't been a dealbreaker very often.

I am hoping, and praying, for an NDSU-EWU matchup in the playoffs this year. I honestly want to see how our offense matches up with that D. Tired of all the speculation the past few years.


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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Congrats on setting the new standard for wins in a row by taking down yet another P5 football program. Was hoping that there'd be a bigger drop-off in talent from last year (yes, I have on my blue/yellow lens), but sure didn't show it vs IA St.

New win, and great show on how to play with Big Boys. Seriously, I think it'll take a top 15 FBS team returning a lot to knock off Bison in first game of season. As your rival and move-up partner, you're a tough group to measure up with. Good thing about WBB! LOL.


One this is certain: Jacks always play the Bison tough!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I am hoping, and praying, for an NDSU-EWU matchup in the playoffs this year. I honestly want to see how our offense matches up with that D. Tired of all the speculation the past few years.


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Where NDSU will beat EWU is on offense. The EWU defense is pretty ave at best from what I saw against SHSU. Now teams improve as the season goes along but it will take a FCS team with a very good defense to beat the Bison.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Congrats on setting the new standard for wins in a row by taking down yet another P5 football program. Was hoping that there'd be a bigger drop-off in talent from last year (yes, I have on my blue/yellow lens), but sure didn't show it vs IA St.

New win, and great show on how to play with Big Boys. Seriously, I think it'll take a top 15 FBS team returning a lot to knock off Bison in first game of season. As your rival and move-up partner, you're a tough group to measure up with. Good thing about WBB! LOL.

Hate to say I told you so.....


wait, no I don't. :D

[Professor Chaos]

Here's a couple ridiculous stats in the USA Today article about the Bison today after their win at Iowa St:

The Bison own the nation's fourth-longest active winning streak against FBS competition, trailing just Florida State (15), Michigan State (10) and UTSA (six).

North Dakota State has five wins against the FBS since the start of the 2010 season. Kansas, on the other hand, has just six.

[Beer]

Here's a couple ridiculous stats in the USA Today article about the Bison today after their win at Iowa St:

The Bison own the nation's fourth-longest active winning streak against FBS competition, trailing just Florida State (15), Michigan State (10) and UTSA (six).

North Dakota State has five wins against the FBS since the start of the 2010 season. Kansas, on the other hand, has just six.

NDSU also has 3 Big 12 wins since 2010. Kansas only has 2.

[Cocky]

After the the first round of games, we have the early season favorite to win the NC. NDSU is way ahead of the pack again. Will be interesting to see the next AGS poll.

[BisonFan02]

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[BisonBacker]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs0TYPL-W5Q


That was fun to watch and well done.

[Go Bison]

That was fun to watch and well done.

For me it says video has been removed by the user.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

After the the first round of games, we have the early season favorite to win the NC. NDSU is way ahead of the pack again. Will be interesting to see the next AGS poll.

I think UNI and Villanova showed very well this weekend. I was lucky enough to be at the Carrier Dome to see 'Nova, they are extremely impressive. UNI also looked very good against a good Iowa team. But yes, NDSU looked silly good....

[marenlee]

Not sure what happened with the other video. But here is the new link. Looks like they put an ad in the beginning and it's about 30 seconds longer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnOb4Fu-HHk&list=UUo9BmRwSGifLu8jCbOgOK1w

[NDSUSR]

I am hoping, and praying, for an NDSU-EWU matchup in the playoffs this year. I honestly want to see how our offense matches up with that D. Tired of all the speculation the past few years.


The game I wanted to see last year. I hope we get to do it this year. It will be a great matchup!

[chattownmocs]

Any rumblings about NDSU to FBS? Seriously.

[Hammersmith]

Any rumblings about NDSU to FBS? Seriously.

Rumblings from fans? Yes. Rumblings from people outside NDSU? Yes. Rumblings from within NDSU? No.

Our admin are always looking at the situation, but I don't think this changes anything. Also, we don't have an athletic director at the moment, so a major decision couldn't be made in the short-term anyway. Our biggest problem is a lack of nearby G5 conferences. The Mountain West won't consider us because we are too far north and east(and we're too small). The MAC looks at us as too far west for a fairly compact conference. Too far north for the Sun Belt, and there's no point talking about the AAC or C-USA.

As a school, we're taking a wait-and-see approach. We're waiting to see how the first couple years of the P5/G5 shakeup goes. If things stay roughly as they are, I doubt we would move without some outside pressure. If things mildly change and create a better environment for us in the FBS, then I think we'd start to look at a move. If there are wholesale changes that result in a full split between the P5 & G5, then I think you'd see us push for most/all of the MVFC to move up as a group.

[Professor Chaos]

Any rumblings about NDSU to FBS? Seriously.

There's a vocal minority amongst our fan base that pushes an FBS move at every possible moment but most of us (at least I think it's "most") look at the move with some trepidation because there's no good, logical, geographic conference fit and there's a lot of doubt about whether its sustainable financially. NDSU would be a west outlier in the MAC (and in an undesirable league), an east outlier in the MWC, and, despite some media pundits and fans beliefs, not Big 12 material with the TV market and facilities.

On top of that the figure I heard for a yearly athletic budget increase was $5M. That's about a 30% increase over what its at now and, despite being in a state that's flush with cash, NDSU is in a spot where they won't be able get money from the state or raise tuition due to the ND State Board of Higher Education wanting to avoid "little brother syndrome" developing amongst the other state funded institutions (which consists of waaaay too many schools for a state the size of ND). It's a tough row to hoe in an ultra-conservative state.

After all that, I think in order for an FBS move to be sustainable financially there needs to be a new stadium built which is likely a $100M+ project if it's an outdoor stadium or at least twice that for an indoor stadium.

Personally, I feel like NDSU isn't positioned to make a successful move unless some geographic peers (like Montana, MSU, SDSU, or UNI) agree to make a move together. Perhaps that will happen if the P5 start their own subdivision but there's a lot of hurdles for NDSU to make a unilateral move to the FBS as it currently stands.

[bulldog10jw]

Any rumblings about NDSU to FBS? Seriously.

The question any school that considers moving up has to answer is: Do we want to be a big fish in a small pond or a small fish in a big pond?

[centennial]

There's a vocal minority amongst our fan base that pushes an FBS move at every possible moment but most of us (at least I think it's "most") look at the move with some trepidation because there's no good, logical, geographic conference fit and there's a lot of doubt about whether its sustainable financially. NDSU would be a west outlier in the MAC (and in an undesirable league), an east outlier in the MWC, and, despite some media pundits and fans beliefs, not Big 12 material with the TV market and facilities.

On top of that the figure I heard for a yearly athletic budget increase was $5M. That's about a 30% increase over what its at now and, despite being in a state that's flush with cash, NDSU is in a spot where they won't be able get money from the state or raise tuition due to the ND State Board of Higher Education wanting to avoid "little brother syndrome" developing amongst the other state funded institutions (which consists of waaaay too many schools for a state the size of ND). It's a tough row to hoe in an ultra-conservative state.

After all that, I think in order for an FBS move to be sustainable financially there needs to be a new stadium built which is likely a $100M+ project if it's an outdoor stadium or at least twice that for an indoor stadium.

Personally, I feel like NDSU isn't positioned to make a successful move unless some geographic peers (like Montana, MSU, SDSU, or UNI) agree to make a move together. Perhaps that will happen if the P5 start their own subdivision but there's a lot of hurdles for NDSU to make a unilateral move to the FBS as it currently stands.
The correct answer should be that the other state institutions should be moved under NDSU and UND as satellite campuses. This will probably push enrollment at both schools to about 20-25k. Additionally, we need investment both in NDSU and UND to increase capacity to 20k students on the main campuses. As for the stadium we need to figure out a way to make the FargoDome bigger to 25-30k.
However, ND legislature is not pragmatic at all, they are just going to sit on billions of dollars and not have the state grow. Also there are enough UND grads in the ND legislature to throw a spanner into any kind of funding request NDSU will come up with. If we move to the FBS it will have to be done with NDSU money, no ND state money or Fargo money.

[chattownmocs]

I think the powerless 5, mvc, caa, big sky, southern, southland and OVC will be together anyway eventually.


I think I just read that North Dakota has the lowest unemployment in the nation at 2%. How is this state not rapidly growing with this type of job situation?

[centennial]

I think the powerless 5, mvc, caa, big sky, southern, southland and OVC will be together anyway eventually.


I think I just read that North Dakota has the lowest unemployment in the nation at 2%. How is this state not rapidly growing with this type of job situation?
Weather discourages a lot of people from moving into ND. Saying that, there is some migration into Fargo from Minneapolis, Chicago, Omaha but its not significant.

[Hammersmith]

I think the powerless 5, mvc, caa, big sky, southern, southland and OVC will be together anyway eventually.


I think I just read that North Dakota has the lowest unemployment in the nation at 2%. How is this state not rapidly growing with this type of job situation?

It is rapidly growing. +7.6% in three years(2010-2013). +12.6% over last 13.

1970 - 617,761
2000 - 642,200
2010 - 672,591
2013 - 723,393

Granted there are a lot of cities around the country larger than our entire state, but that's still a pretty good jump in population.

[TILIS-BisonFan]

Same formula to beat ndsu as before. Score early because they will make better adjustments and wear you down in the second half. Win turnover and time of possession. I was very impressed with uni as well. I think the game at home vs Montana and on the road vs uni will determine if the road to Frisco runs through the fargodome

[bulldog10jw]

It is rapidly growing. +7.6% in three years(2010-2013). +12.6% over last 13.

1970 - 617,761
2000 - 642,200
2010 - 672,591
2013 - 723,393

Granted there are a lot of cities around the country larger than our entire state, but that's still a pretty good jump in population.

I wonder what the population is in January and February since it seems like every other car you see here in Arizona those months has North Dakota plates. ;)

[Hammersmith]

I wonder what the population is in January and February since it seems like every other car you see here in Arizona those months has North Dakota plates. ;)

Truth. I've got more than a couple older relatives that snowbird down your way.

The thing is, the state is trending younger for the first time in probably a half century. The K12 schools up here are absolutely exploding. I'm not saying the state will break 1 million by 2020, but it wouldn't surprise me. Probably by 2025 or 2030.

[BisonFan02]

CAR
YDS
AVG
TD
LG


John Crockett (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/537920/john-crockett)
17
138
8.1
3
80


Chase Morlock (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/553162/chase-morlock)
6
81
13.5
1
66


King Frazier (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/533282/king-frazier)
9
40
4.4
0
15




Crockett, Morlock, and Frazier.....pick your poison. NDSU for the most part last year ran a two headed monster in Ojuri/Crockett....looks like the Bison are going to roll with 3 this year.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

CAR
YDS
AVG
TD
LG


John Crockett (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/537920/john-crockett)
17
138
8.1
3
80


Chase Morlock (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/553162/chase-morlock)
6
81
13.5
1
66


King Frazier (http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/533282/king-frazier)
9
40
4.4
0
15




Crockett, Morlock, and Frazier.....pick your poison. NDSU for the most part last year ran a two headed monster in Ojuri/Crockett....looks like the Bison are going to roll with 3 this year.



IMO, as the year goes on, Frazier will move into the #2 spot behind Crockett. Morlock is good but not as fast as Frazier. but you're right about all 3....xthumbsupx

[BisonFan02]

IMO, as the year goes on, Frazier will move into the #2 spot behind Crockett. Morlock is good but not as fast as Frazier. but you're right about all 3....xthumbsupx

I wouldn't be so sure about that...I've heard Morlock is a lot faster than people give him credit for.

[BisonBacker]

I wouldn't be so sure about that...I've heard Morlock is a lot faster than people give him credit for.

I heard the same thing and that run he had yesterday I sure didn't see anyone run him down :)

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Either way it's a nice problem to have!!

[Laker]

I wouldn't be so sure about that...I've heard Morlock is a lot faster than people give him credit for.

The boys on ESPN right now on CFB Daily were questioning why no one could run him down. No respect.

[centennial]

The boys on ESPN right now on CFB Daily were questioning why no one could run him down. No respect.
Yeah because FBS changes your breed from human to demi god. All of a sudden every FBS player runs 4s 40 yard and can jump 50 inches.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I wouldn't be so sure about that...I've heard Morlock is a lot faster than people give him credit for.


You may be right but just my opinion.

All three look very good.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Just watched the replay of this game.

What a frickin beat down, esp in the 2nd half. The Bison O-line, with 4 new starters, completely dominated a Big 12 D-line. Plankers #70, didn't start but really crushed people in the 2nd half. Kelly and Schueller also did a good job. Hinz, the center, needs to clean up some of his holding....had 2 flags on him. Overall, the O-line did very well. Looks like there are 8 O-lineman that can play right now.

From watching other FCS games this weekend, there is not a team that would scare me right now. IMO, for any FCS team to beat the Bison they are going to need a very good defense to stay with the Bison running game. Just stacking 8-9 guys in the box to stop the run is not going to work, it will take a team with very good LBer play to fill gaps and cover the TEs and RBs in the pass.

I cannot wait for the Montana match up in a couple of weeks. After watching the Griz/Wyo game, the Griz better bring their A game to even make it close.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

You may be right but just my opinion.

All three look very good.

Remember how last year both Ojuri and Crockett got caught from behind a few times?


Crockett is way faster this year, he won't get caught much if at all.

[Lehigh'98]

Remember how last year both Ojuri and Crockett got caught from behind a few times?


Crockett is way faster this year, he won't get caught much if at all.

Was he injured or something last year? Players don't typically gain much pure speed in an offseason unless there is a specific circumstance for it.

[BisonFan02]

Was he injured or something last year? Players don't typically gain much pure speed in an offseason unless there is a specific circumstance for it.

Yes...nagging hip and groin. He's supposedly 100% headed into this year.

[Lehigh'98]

Yes...nagging hip and groin. He's supposedly 100% headed into this year.

Gotcha, tbh I couldn't tell last year, he looked fantastic to me in the games I saw.

[Professor Chaos]

Hinz, the center, needs to clean up some of his holding....had 2 flags on him.
One of Hinz's holding calls may have been legit but lost (due to the fact that Morlock had a 66 yard TD run a few plays later) was that the holding call on Hinz in Crocketts 79 yard run was completely bogus. It was super late and on the replay all he did was dive at the knees if the defender he blocked (who wasn't engaged up top so it wasn't clipping either). Didn't change things in the end but he definitely got a raw deal on that call.

[BisonBacker]

One of Hinz's holding calls may have been legit but lost (due to the fact that Morlock had a 66 yard TD run a few plays later) was that the holding call on Hinz in Crocketts 79 yard run was completely bogus. It was super late and on the replay all he did was dive at the knees if the defender he blocked (who wasn't engaged up top so it wasn't clipping either). Didn't change things in the end but he definitely got a raw deal on that call.

I saw that also and went ballistic when they said he got called for holding. In the end it didn't matter and every team has to put up with crappy reffing at some point but in a close game a bad call like that could end up costing you big ala NDSU 2010.

[Hammerhead]

Someone on bisonville noted that Crockett used to turn his head around to see who was chasing him. At Iowa State, kept his head forward once he was out in the open.


Was he injured or something last year? Players don't typically gain much pure speed in an offseason unless there is a specific circumstance for it.

[Herder]

Yeah because FBS changes your breed from human to demi god. All of a sudden every FBS player runs 4s 40 yard and can jump 50 inches.

It wouldn't have mattered how fast the defender was, they would have been trucked by Haeg or Bonnet running alongside Morlock. As for Morlock, his speed is not an issue, and he looks fast . . . faster than Frasier IMO. A good mix of skills for the bison RB's . . .

Crocket: Has it all, size to pound it, speed to run away from you.
Frasier: Looks like a grinder, and can move the chains, doesn't appear to have break away speed, but we'll see
Morlock: Good quickness on the edge, can make you miss, can go the distance
Anderson: Screens, jet sweeps, edge runs, very quick

[centennial]

One of Hinz's holding calls may have been legit but lost (due to the fact that Morlock had a 66 yard TD run a few plays later) was that the holding call on Hinz in Crocketts 79 yard run was completely bogus. It was super late and on the replay all he did was dive at the knees if the defender he blocked (who wasn't engaged up top so it wasn't clipping either). Didn't change things in the end but he definitely got a raw deal on that call.
As far as I am concerned, P5 refs like cooking calls against G5 and FCS. This game could have easily been 50-14. Also believe UNI should have won its game and there was a lot of cooking going on.

[BisonBacker]

One of the best comments by a sportswriter I've seen from Saturday's dismantling of ISU by the Bison.



Beware the Mighty Bison!When will FBS teams learn? For the fifth straight season, FCS-level North Dakota State has knocked off an FBS football team, with Iowa State becoming the Bison’s latest victims thanks to a 34-14 (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/30/five-peat-cyclones-latest-fbs-victim-for-north-dakota-state/) beating in Ames. NDSU actually trailed 14-0 early in the second quarter before ripping off 34 straight points in ISU’s humiliation. The fact that the Bison pushed around one of the big boys from a Power Five conference is far from surprising — or at least should’ve been. Despite losing its head coach (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/08/craig-bohl-confirms-hes-leaving-nd-state-for-wyoming/) to Wyoming, NDSU is the FCS preseason No. 1 and have won the last three championships (2011-13) at that level. The Bison have won 24 straight and 43 of their last 45, including a season-opening 24-21 win over Kansas State in 2013; a 22-7 win over Colorado State in 2012; a 2011 win over Minnesota by the score of 37-24; and, finally, a 6-3 win over Kansas in the 2010 opener. All of those wins against FBS teams, including Saturday’s, came on the road. If FBS teams are looking for an FCS cupcake, might I suggest North Dakota instead of North Dakota State?
It's official: North Dakota State has more Big 12 wins over the last three years than Kansas—

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/the-fifth-quarter-week-1-rewind-2/

[NoDak 4 Ever]

If you read this forum, ISU appears to be little more than a NAIA school and we didn't do anything.

[SUPharmacist]

If you read this forum, ISU appears to be little more than a NAIA school and we didn't do anything.



Eh, the dominating fashion of the win says it all. Otherwise, Iowa State truly is not that good. Although I can't wait to see NDSU pound the teams of some people here who think anyone would beat ISU.

[BisonFan02]

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[caribbeanhen]

Good Lordy .....
guess I'm gonna have to get some new material ready for u guys come Dec / Jan.

[thebootfitter]

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Like a truck. Boys against men. That was awesome!

[clenz]

So...there's this


http://amestrib.com/sports/la-gesse-column-gannon-s-departure-illustrates-larger-problem



Something is wrong with the Iowa State football program. That much is obvious after starting right tackle Jacob Gannon quit the team two days before facing Kansas State.He’s the third to do so (yes, one returned) in the last nine months. This is a pattern and it’s a sign of a systemic issue and the program can’t turn around until it is resolved.Gannon and defensive tackles Austin Krick and Brandon Jensen all walked away from the Cyclones. Yes, Jensen returned, but he was pushed to the point where he felt leaving was his best option.This is a huge problem and it goes beyond injuries, ineffective play and play calling. You can’t look at the departures and the team’s 4-14 record over the last two-plus seasons and not think the two are related.- See more at: http://amestrib.com/sports/la-gesse-column-gannon-s-departure-illustrates-larger-problem#sthash.uuEDLF55.dpuf

[NoDak 4 Ever]

So...there's this


http://amestrib.com/sports/la-gesse-column-gannon-s-departure-illustrates-larger-problem



Something is wrong with the Iowa State football program. That much is obvious after starting right tackle Jacob Gannon quit the team two days before facing Kansas State.He’s the third to do so (yes, one returned) in the last nine months. This is a pattern and it’s a sign of a systemic issue and the program can’t turn around until it is resolved.Gannon and defensive tackles Austin Krick and Brandon Jensen all walked away from the Cyclones. Yes, Jensen returned, but he was pushed to the point where he felt leaving was his best option.This is a huge problem and it goes beyond injuries, ineffective play and play calling. You can’t look at the departures and the team’s 4-14 record over the last two-plus seasons and not think the two are related.- See more at: http://amestrib.com/sports/la-gesse-column-gannon-s-departure-illustrates-larger-problem#sthash.uuEDLF55.dpuf


Rhodes out before the season is up. Doubt they'd have Mangino come in, he doesn't seem to be able to handle the top spot.

[clenz]

Rhodes out before the season is up. Doubt they'd have Mangino come in, he doesn't seem to be able to handle the top spot.
He'd be the perfect fit for the ISU football program if you think about it.

Lot's of hype around their fans (ISU fans always think this is their year and Mangino followers always think he'll turn it around - also see Charlie Weiss
Can't seem to handle any kind of pressure
He'll demand a huge salary and Iowa State will pay it
Both will fail - and will come as a shock to no one except Iowa State fans in point 1.




ISU is on the hook for Rhodes through 2020 at 2 mil per season if he is there or not.

[BisonBacker]

Wow I hadn't heard that but if he did leave it brings up lots of questions. Only the players and coaches who know what's going on on the Inside can really say or decide. In the history of sports there have been many many bad coaches or should I say coaches who didn't have a good win loss record. This doesn't make them bad people just bad coaches. I'm going to lean towards giving a bad coach the benefit of the doubt before I side with a player leaving just because of a losing record. If all players did that we would have no sports to watch. Just to bad the young man chose that path but he will live with the choice right or wrong. But as the article alluded to one other player who left his team and that's all he's remembered for. I'd rather stay and stick it out and be remembered as a guy who gutted it out as opposed to one who walked out on his team mates.

[frozennorth]

iowa state would have been a good job for Bohl

[BisonBacker]

iowa state would have been a good job for Bohl

I was thinking that very same thing. Glad he ended up where he did though. Not sure Coach K would have stayed number 1. Secondly that would put him smack dab in the middle of our recruiting footprint and we didn't need that. As it is if he can make a winner out of Wyo hell he ought to be able to write his own paycheck at his next gig.

[clenz]

Less than 5 minutes in against Kansas State this week and Iowa State is down by 10...very lucky it isn't 14

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[clenz]

Through the first 12 minutes of the ksu game Iowa state has allowed 171 yards... And gained 9

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[marenlee]

Uh oh. And just like that ISU is about to take the lead.

[centennial]

Could NDSU be better than K-State? Wow, this game, KSt is starting to get stuffed.

[BisonBacker]

Same announcers as last week.

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**** I've got work to do outside too and now I'm watching this!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

After watching this: NDSU would beat K-State again...xthumbsupx

[centennial]

Big XII hates them

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Anyone else notice the sections that were solidly us are now devoid of visiting fans? It's not even that far.


the UdeNIers are going to have a tough time if ISU plays them tough or wins.

[BisonBacker]

Haven't seen the crowd shots much but looks like Iowa State is going to score here again.

[BisonFan02]

Through the first 12 minutes of the ksu game Iowa state has allowed 171 yards... And gained 9

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Score check Clenz? :D

[NDSUSR]

Anyone else notice the sections that were solidly us are now devoid of visiting fans? It's not even that far.


the UdeNIers are going to have a tough time if ISU plays them tough or wins.

Cyclone board post states NDSU had twice as many fans in attendance.

[BisonBacker]

Guess NDSU would at least be #19 in the FBS :D

[BisonBacker]

Score check Clenz? :D

He's suddenly disappeared xlolx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

LOL

This is awesome. Iowa State just scored again.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Iowa State is mad?

[centennial]

Hello Clenz. 28-13 Iowa State

[BisonBacker]

Iowa State got hosed on that complete pass call for K State. Looked like he was out of bounds.

[clenz]

Sorry... Took a nap.


Impressed to see Iowa State not fold like a wet towel for the first time in about 2 decades

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[NDSUSR]

Sorry... Took a nap.


Impressed to see Iowa State not fold like a wet towel for the first time in about 2 decades



Rest assured, it will happen. ISU will run out of steam in the second half. The bad call on the catch and giving up the late TD will take a little momentum.
I predict a KState comeback and win.

[centennial]

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[NDSUSR]

Do I get a cookie?

[marenlee]

Do I get a cookie?

Well... :D

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