Tony Stewart Hits/Kills Driver He Put Into Wall

[superman7515]

So admittedly I'm not a racing fan, but I worked at a few different race tracks over the years, and I gotta admit that this doesn't look good...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qILmIyG6qno

So Tony Stewart and Kevin Ward Jr. are beside each other, Stewart pushes him up into the wall where Ward loses it, and after finally getting free, Ward gets out of his car to yell at Stewart. The caution flag is out, so everyone is going much slower, and the first five cars that go by Ward after he walks down the track have no difficulty in missing the unprotected driver. Then, as Stewart goes by, he revs his engine (just my opinion, he was revving it at Ward to say something to the "rookie"), but the car breaks a little sideways and Ward gets caught underneath and tossed out onto the track, which later proves to be fatal. While I'm sure Stewart didn't intend to kill him, I would certainly think this falls under the realm of manslaughter.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I see it totally different....

Here's an overhead of the track, showing the irregular shape and the curves....in this location, at the bottom left corner, the track is only 66 feet wide...

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If you slow the video down and watch it frame by frame, you can count select land marks and figure out where the videographer was, and what the field of view is as he zooms out...It's denoted in this photo by the yellow polygon in the foreground at the edge of the stands...compare that with what's available in the video as he pans before the altercation.

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If you rotate the Google earth image around, you see that this is what it looks like directly overhead...I may be off on the red X which is where Ward was standing when he got hit. It shoulc actually be a little closer to the curve, in "front" of the yellow polygon representing Ward's vehicle...

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Accordingly, the positioning of Ward's vehicle, about 5-6 feet off the wall, and yawed, restricts the available useable space of the 66 foot wide track down to about 40 feet. Ward exits his vehicle wearing a black helmet and a black suit, standing in front of a black car in low light.....not a particularly smart move...

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Then, compounding that, he walks even further down the track and the curve and then deeper into the track...

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Note the front wheels angled toward the infield and the rear wheels angled toward the track...and Ward's position as evidenced by his helmet compared to the back wall... and contrast it with the next photo...

[FormerPokeCenter]

In this one his helmet is away from the wall, while in the one above, the helment was aligned with the wall. Even factoring parallax and zooming in, it's clear he's deeper into the track than he was above...At this point, I think it's obvious there's going to be a collision that wouldn't have occurred if he stayed where he was...

I'm still trying to work out a speed at impact....I'm guessing 40ish....60 feet per second...They were likely over 100 at the first entanglement before the kid exited the car...


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And compare to this one, at impact

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The positioning of his helmet, as compared to the wall shows he's further into Stewart's path than he was into the vehicle preceeding him....factoring in that they're coming out of the curve and yawing, and if you slow the vide down and advance it frame by frame, you'll see that he turns his front wheel toward the outter wall and then hits the accelerator...At least that's the part of the video where you hear the engine rev...

I see that as an evasive move, considering that these things are designed to be in a yaw pretty much all the time...differing sized tires on the back and a wing to force the rear end down and raise the vehicle's critical speed...i.e., the speed at which the centripetal force overcomes the force of gravity and sends the vehicle sideways...

To me, turning to the outside and hitting the gas will bring the rear end around to the left, and -possibly avoid contact....

Looks evasive to me...

But, the accident doesn't happen but for the Ward kid exiting his vehicle and moving toward the curve and into the center of the remaining available track, with about 13 other vehicles in the race...

Based on his positioning, he cut the track down to less than half of it's normal width....

It'll be interesting to see if there's any audio of conversation between Stewart and his crew avaiable, or Stewart's vehicle was equipped with an onboard camera...

If Stewart WAS trying to scare the kid, then I agree....vehicular manslaughter....but at this point, based on incredibly LIMITED video, what I see is the evasive action I would expect to see in a vehicle that's designed to perpetually be in a yaw...

[Laker]

I'm not a Tony Stewart fan- I think that he is a hothead. But Ward should have gone after him in the pits. With cars going by, it is dark, you can't lose your temper and walk out into this mess. It is tragic and from repeated watching of the films I don't think Stewart hit him on purpose.

I think it was a bad initial move to say that Stewart would be racing- "business as usual". Looking at the negative reaction they correctly decided not to have him race.

[Bisonoline]

So admittedly I'm not a racing fan, but I worked at a few different race tracks over the years, and I gotta admit that this doesn't look good...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qILmIyG6qno

So Tony Stewart and Kevin Ward Jr. are beside each other, Stewart pushes him up into the wall where Ward loses it, and after finally getting free, Ward gets out of his car to yell at Stewart. The caution flag is out, so everyone is going much slower, and the first five cars that go by Ward after he walks down the track have no difficulty in missing the unprotected driver. Then, as Stewart goes by, he revs his engine (just my opinion, he was revving it at Ward to say something to the "rookie"), but the car breaks a little sideways and Ward gets caught underneath and tossed out onto the track, which later proves to be fatal. While I'm sure Stewart didn't intend to kill him, I would certainly think this falls under the realm of manslaughter.

WTF?????? Serious?

[darell1976]

I'm not a Tony Stewart fan- I think that he is a hothead. But Ward should have gone after him in the pits. With cars going by, it is dark, you can't lose your temper and walk out into this mess. It is tragic and from repeated watching of the films I don't think Stewart hit him on purpose.

I think it was a bad initial move to say that Stewart would be racing- "business as usual". Looking at the negative reaction they correctly decided not to have him race.

This ^^^^, if he would have stayed in his car until help arrived he would still be alive, he almost got hit by the car ahead of Stewart, and if he would've hit him, would he be up for manslaughter or other charges? Getting out of your car during a race and into traffic would be like intentionally running the ball up the middle with no helmet or pads on, it screams for disaster. Its too bad it happened, and I feel for his family, but its not all Stewarts fault, and no charges should be filed.

[Bisonoline]

http://www.motorsport.com/sprint/news/yes-tony-stewart-did-run-over-a-fellow-driver-who-was-killed-but-know-the-whole-story/

[bkrownd]

Over the years I've seen numbers of video clips (e.g. a favorite subject for sportscenter) of these drivers walking around on the track like that, yelling, pointing, throwing helmets, even throwing punches at passing drivers, and it always seemed just a matter of time before one of them got run over.

[clenz]

Over the years I've seen numbers of video clips (e.g. a favorite subject for sportscenter) of these drivers walking around on the track like that, yelling, pointing, throwing helmets, even throwing punches at passing drivers, and it always seemed just a matter of time before one of them got run over.
There's a huge difference between doing that on a very well lit asphalt track with cars that can be driven straight and easily controlled and doing so in a black suit at night on a dirt track that is barely lit with cars that are damn near impossible to control in ideal situations

[FormerPokeCenter]

Holy ****....I find myself forced to rep Clenz for clarity of thought....

Clearly, a sign of the impending apocalypse...

[superman7515]

There's a huge difference between doing that on a very well lit asphalt track with cars that can be driven straight and easily controlled and doing so in a black suit at night on a dirt track that is barely lit with cars that are damn near impossible to control in ideal situations

I take it that you've never actually driven a sprint car then as they are very easily controlled if you have any experience in them. I have a long family history of racing and make no claims to be anywhere close to Tony Stewarts level, but to claim he couldn't control a vehicle he's been driving since before he had a driver's license is absurd. Odd now that others who race sprint cars are coming out saying that Stewart could definitely see Ward on that track, was gesturing at Ward himself as he passed him, and are speculating much as I did initially that Stewart was trying to scare him by coming in close and revving the engine. While I have never thought he meant to him, I do believe he was trying to scare this kid who got in his way.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2014-08-10/tony-stewart-sprint-car-hits-driver-fight-incident-trouble-investigation-new-york-watkins-glen-kevin-ward
"Tony pinched him into the frontstretch wall, a racing thing," Graves said. "The right rear tire went down, he spun on the exit of (Turn) 2. They threw the caution and everything was toned down. Kevin got out of his car. … He was throwing his arms up all over the place at Tony for most of the corner.

"I know Tony could see him. I know how you can see out of these cars. When Tony got close to him, he hit the throttle.

When you hit a throttle on a sprint car, the car sets sideways. It set sideways, the right rear tire hit Kevin, Kevin was sucked underneath and was stuck under it for a second or two and then it threw him about 50 yards."

Rich Willis, who was at the track, said he didn’t see exactly what happened but his sister down in Turn 1 did. His description was similar to that of Graves and video of the tragedy showed Stewart's car hitting Ward.

“People (who could see it better) said the guy got out of his car and was gesturing angrily at Tony Stewart when Tony Stewart came by during the next lap under yellow,” Willis said in a phone interview. “He approached him and evidently when he was driving by the guy standing on the track gesturing at him, he gunned his engine.

“What happened was the back end kicked out and clipped the guy and the guy flew across the track.”

Graves said it appeared to him that Stewart swerved before gunning the engine but he did not believe it was intentional.
"You never mean to do something like that," Graves said.

"Kevin was pissed and he let Tony know. And Tony was trying to give the message back that he wasn't happy either. He went over the line with it."


http://www.si.com/racing/2014/08/10/tony-stewart-kevin-ward-legal-ramifications

"First, a lack of pending charges does not mean that charges won’t be brought at a later date, including months or even years from now. The presence of a videotape is a crucial piece of evidence for law enforcement to review, as it provides a record of the event. Stewart’s clipping of Ward is also telling, because it could indicate that he wanted to scare Ward after Ward left his race car to confront Stewart. Driving close to someone as a way of frightening them could be considered reckless conduct, or at least an issue worthy of examination by a grand jury. Notably, Tyler Graves, a sprint-car racer who attended the race and who has been described as a friend of Ward, suggested to The Sporting News’ Bob Pockrass that Stewart acted with some degree of intent: “I know Tony could see [Ward] . . . When Tony got close to him, he hit the throttle.” If other drivers make similar comments, there may be increased pressure on Povero and Tantillo to pursue charges.

Along those lines, it is at least plausible that a grand jury could conclude that while Stewart did not intend to kill Ward – which, when accompanied by other elements, would constitute murder in the first degree​ – he may have engaged in conduct consistent with murder in the second degree. Under New York law, murder in the second degree entails acting with a depraved indifference to human life and recklessly engaging in conduct that “creates a grave risk of death to another person, and thereby cause the death of another person.” New York classifies murder in the second degree as an A-I felony, and it carries up to a life sentence and minimum of 15 years behind bars.

Second, “criminal intent” is not the only state of mind that could lead to criminal charges against Stewart. For instance, negligent homicide refers to accidentally causing the death of another through negligent conduct, such as reckless operation of a motor vehicle. Crucially, negligent homicide would not require that Stewart intentionally tried to kill Ward, only that he drove recklessly or carelessly. Such misconduct might include trying to scare — but not hurt — Ward. In New York, negligent homicide is a Class E felony and carries a maximum punishment of four years in prison."

[FormerPokeCenter]

The cars are set up to oversteer...That's the reason for the wing.....and, if you were to punch it, without steering into the slide, you're right, the rear and would come around.....larger outside rear tire, smaller left rear tire.....but, if you advance the video frame by frame, you can see that Stewart turns into the slide right before he guns it...Also, the car jerks to the right, because of the impact with Ward...Steering into the slide and gunning it is how you pull the rear around to the left...

I've played with the video for several hours and loaded a few things into a program called ARAS360HD, which is state of the art when it comes to reconstruction and simulation....I'm hvaing to do it between tasks I actually get paid for, but I'm working on a simulation of where Ward was, on the track, at various times....It's interesting, at the start of the turn, Ward was on the extreme outide and accelerating...his right rear tire was in the dirt at the start of the south turn....He holds that line, while Steward goes into the curve low, and holds his line.....the interesting thing about that turn is that at the start of it, it's 75 feet wide. In the area where the hits the wall, it's roughly 60 feet wide...so the width of the track diminishes by approximately 15 percent....yes, the cars get closer through the turn, but that's in large part because of the turn's narrowing....you can't really say that Stewart put him into the wall....

The other thing....after he exits his vehicle, the kid goes down the track about 10-15 feet, staying behind the line of the car, gets his bearings and then gets out onto the track. 9 vehicles pass the kid while he's still in the car, or standing down track of it....two vehicles interact with him, the #45 car who has to swerve and Stewart's car....Both the 45 car and the 14 car were in oversteer coming out of the turn....though they were going somewhat slow due to the caution...

I used Google Earth to measure the distance between visible objects on the wall in the background, and then counted video frames to determie how fast stewart was going when he made contact....I have him at 29 miles per hour....

There's a technique called Photogrammetry, whereby you can take some known distances in a photo and work out some triangulation to account for the depth of field....

I've eyeballed it, but based on where the kid was standing when he got hit....deeper into the available travel lane than he was when 45 passed, but it looks like he's reduced the usable section of the track down to under 30 feet...

It'll be interesting to see what other video angles are available, but with enough time, and some better images of the Stewart vehicle, I can pretty much give you a cockpit view of Stewart's field of view as he approached the kid...

Here are two views of a ROUGH animation showing the kid's travel in the lane and where he was when he got hit.....It's a conceptual animation, only....it's NOT scale nor exact, and needs a LOT more work, i.e., making the model walk, etc., but because that requires more time than I've got to put in it this will have to suffice for now...

What I want to do next is to advance the news video frame by frame and put the kid's path on the track....I know the path in the link is NOT exact, but I'll try to fix that as time allows...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152377534753406&set=vb.572003405&type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152377666088406&set=vb.572003405&type=3

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

If Stewart isn't prosecuted, he will be sued. Take it to the bank

[FormerPokeCenter]

That goes without saying...

[Bisonator]

No one knows exactly what happened except Tony. It doesn't sound good to me though when a guy like Kasey Kahne who owns and drives these cars says he doesn't know how it could have happened. To me it looked like Tony was trying to either scare the kid or throw dirt at him and ended up hitting him instead. If he had just idle by the kid could have probably got out of the way in time. I'm sure he didn't intend to hit him. Sad deal for everyone involved and my thoughts go out to Ward's family.

[superman7515]

If Stewart isn't prosecuted, he will be sued. Take it to the bank

I'm sure the family will file a wrongful death suit, Stewart will probably settle out of court with some sort of agreement where there is no admission of guilt and the family stays quiet. To be clear, I'm in no way advocating for Stewart to be arrested, charged, fined, suspended, or anything else; there's more to that than just is he or is he not guilty of anything. What I am saying is merely expressing my opinion, it seemed to me right from the start, and apparently I'm not alone in that vibe considering these other racers' statements, that he was trying to rev the engine to scare the kid and kind of a "F--- you, who are you?" kinda thing. To be perfectly honest, had the thought crossed my mind in a similar situation, I wouldn't have been above doing the same thing. I feel the end result was an accident, but that doesn't absolve culpability.

[Sam I Am]

I think the citizens of Canandaigua, New York should protest Kevin Ward Jr's death as a wrongful death and loot and destroy the town as they are doing in Ferguson, Mo.xcrazyx

[Bisonoline]

Every thing I have read shows he hit the throttle to get away from the kid. The throttle is how you steer the car. The driver in front of tony stated he didn't see him either until he was right on top of him.
fact is if the kid would have stayed in his car like he was supposed to he would still be alive today.

[clenz]

Every thing I have read shows he hit the throttle to get away from the kid. The throttle is how you steer the car. The driver in front of tony stated he didn't see him either until he was right on top of him.
fact is if the kid would have stayed in his car like he was supposed to he would still be alive today.
And Tony was in the same line while the kid took 5ish more steps towards the groove

[superman7515]

The throttle is how you steer the car.

That's a bit of an exaggeration from whoever was saying that. Think of it like a car without power steering, the slower you go, the harder it is to steer the vehicle. Even so, sprints idle between 30-40 mph so it's not like it's trying to cut the wheel from a stop with no power assist. When you give it gas, it pulls to the left because of the stagger, which is how he got hit by the rear tire when he revved the engine, it didn't just pull, he gunned it and the rear kicked out hard. There's no rear-differential on a sprint car, it's a one piece rear axle, so they have to be staggered because if the tires were the same size you'd be in a world of hurt when you went to turn. However, he wouldn't have been on the gas all the way through the turn anyway, otherwise he would have spun out. I don't know what speeds FPC ended up with, but he would have been idling down through the turn and with the yellow flag being out, was certainly under race speeds.

[clenz]

From the comments section of a buddy of mine's facebook post...

Context on this guy - he has his own race team and has been going to races/racing since he could walk. At 25 years old he owns, and races, hobby stock and late models and has been involved with another team that does sprint. When it comes to racing he is the one guy I trust.

This is what he had to say...


ya gotta understand a sprint car, otherwise, yes it may seem like he gassed it and made it fish tale, this is he part that ESPN and the media isn't telling everyone, because frankly, they don't know either, those sprint cars are direct drive cars, which means there is no starter or clutch. The speed they are going in the video under caution is as slow as they go without having to pull them out of gear and roll to stop, which would require a push start from and ATV/push truck, so they rarely stop on the track during a race, even under a caution. They also have a 130" right rear tire, and an 80" left rear tire, to make them turn left easily. As you drive down the straightaway you are turning right fighting them to go straight. The front end is very light and just bounce under low to medium speed, the downforce from the huge wing on top is what plants the tires. You basically have to be on the gas to control the car

[Bisonoline]

That's a bit of an exaggeration from whoever was saying that. Think of it like a car without power steering, the slower you go, the harder it is to steer the vehicle. Even so, sprints idle between 30-40 mph so it's not like it's trying to cut the wheel from a stop with no power assist. When you give it gas, it pulls to the left because of the stagger, which is how he got hit by the rear tire when he revved the engine, it didn't just pull, he gunned it and the rear kicked out hard. There's no rear-differential on a sprint car, it's a one piece rear axle, so they have to be staggered because if the tires were the same size you'd be in a world of hurt when you went to turn. However, he wouldn't have been on the gas all the way through the turn anyway, otherwise he would have spun out. I don't know what speeds FPC ended up with, but he would have been idling down through the turn and with the yellow flag being out, was certainly under race speeds.

Guy on bv used to race these types of cars and explained in pretty good. Kid was an idiot for getting out of the car and then staying on the track.

[superman7515]

From the comments section of a buddy of mine's facebook post...

Context on this guy - he has his own race team and has been going to races/racing since he could walk. At 25 years old he owns, and races, hobby stock and late models and has been involved with another team that does sprint. When it comes to racing he is the one guy I trust.

This is what he had to say...

They also have a 130" right rear tire, and an 80" left rear tire

Is he claiming it's a 130 inch tire with a 50 inch difference or am I misreading? There's usually a 10" to 20" difference in tire size and the right rear is about 100-110". A 50 inch difference between tires wouldn't be remotely feasible.

EDIT - I take that back, feasible is a poor choice of wording. Anything is feasible when it comes to redneck ingenuity, however, it's not practical.

[superman7515]

Guy on bv used to race these types of cars and explained in pretty good. Kid was an idiot for getting out of the car and then staying on the track.

Getting out of the car is pretty common, the majority of drivers will get out, but I agree that staying on the track (not to mention trying to confront a moving vehicle) was stupid.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I actually have him at 29 ish, based on a Google earth measurement of two sections of the wall, and counting the number of video frames it took the nose of his car to cover that distance, advancing frame by frame...

Assuming I have the distance measurement correct, here's how I came up with the speed...If the distance measurement is inaccurate, then the speed result will be wrong...

No of frames to travel known distance/30 frames per sec frame rate = seconds

Distance / seconds = ft/sec

Ft/sec x .6818 = mph.

That's slower than I thought it would be, based on eyeballing it...and slower than the 40 mph speed most people are saying those things will operate under during a caution...

Assuming I'm right on the 29 mph, I think that does speak to the need to accelerate to bring the rear end around to the left..

I've got a better animation video....I used Kubota 4 wheelers in place of the Sprint Cars, because - frankly - My program doesn't have any Sprint Car models. I tried building one, and the image is passable, but the software company has to create the animatable model....All I can do with the one I built is put it in a static location on the track and then show what view was available to Stewart at select points along the track...i.e., 50 feet away, 100 feet away, etc....

It might be instructive, because of the curve and vehicle's yaw..the front wing does make a little difference from a visibility standpoint...

[superman7515]

I actually have him at 29 ish, based on a Google earth measurement of two sections of the wall, and counting the number of video frames it took the nose of his car to cover that distance, advancing frame by frame...

Assuming I have the distance measurement correct, here's how I came up with the speed...If the distance measurement is inaccurate, then the speed result will be wrong...

No of frames to travel known distance/30 frames per sec frame rate = seconds

Distance / seconds = ft/sec

Ft/sec x .6818 = mph.

That's slower than I thought it would be, based on eyeballing it...and slower than the 40 mph speed most people are saying those things will operate under during a caution...

Assuming I'm right on the 29 mph, I think that does speak to the need to accelerate to bring the rear end around to the left...

I would only offer that most sprint cars idle at faster than 29 mph, typically 30-40 mph, which is why the yellow speed is 40 mph so they can just idle around the track. I'm not saying your calculations are incorrect or anything, it's only about a 1 mph difference from the low end, so many things could explain that (coming out of the curve where he wouldn't have been using the gas, how soft the track was, etc).

Also, accelerating takes the rear end right (towards the passenger side because there's more grip on that side), not left, when you hit the gas. It swings the front end left, then you kinda drive with an oversteer to straighten out, which is why it aids in steering considering you're *hopefully* always going the same direction. Think of being in a constant slight skid where the rear is trying to pass you on the passenger side.

Totally unrelated, but this is my grandfathers car racing at Watkins Glen in 1959. He raced a Lister Corvette and later a Lister Jaguar for DuPont in the 50's and early 60's before he was in a serious wreck that crushed his right foot/ankle and nearly led to it being amputated. They saved his leg but he wasn't able to race again and had really bad arthritis in it later in life.

http://www.racingsportscars.com/tn/photo/1959/TN_Watkins_Glen-1959-09-26-036.jpg

http://www.racingsportscars.com/tn/photo/1959/TN_Watkins_Glen-1959-09-26-036b.jpg

http://www.racingsportscars.com/tn/photo/1959/TN_Watkins_Glen-1959-09-26-036a.jpg

My father raced stock cars in the late 60's until the early 80's up and down the east coast. Most of the cars those guys went around roughing up are classics now that you would want to keep in the garage, but back then they were just 15 to 20-year-old cars that were fine for beating up.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Your point about the rear end pulling right with only acceleration is spot on....

But, if you advance the video frame by frame, it looks to me like he steers to the right simultaneously to hitting the gas....my though is that perhaps he's out of gear, slowing down, but still yawing, sees the kid and realizes that his yaw aspect means he's gonna hit the kid...if he puts it in gear acclerating swings the rear wider to the right and makes hitting the kid inevitable....but..if he steers and accelerates, it'll bring the rear back to the left....It looks to me like that's his only play to try to avoid. It's like a jet ski....you don't use the power, you don't steer...being in a yaw means you're already at critical speed and sliding, so tire stiction isn't all that great and you can't steer....

I've never driven one of these things, and the video of Stewart's approach to the kid is rather limited. It'll be interesting to see if they release the second video any time soon....

Here's a link to an Open Source YouTube downloader....

You have to sign into your G-mail account to be able to download....http://www.ytddownloader.com/

Here's a link to the open source video viewer/editor I use.....VLC Media Player and VLC Media Creator......hit the E key to advance frame by frame....hold it down if you want it to scroll frame by frame....

http://www.videolan.org/

You can do the same thing in Windows Media Player, by going into the settings, and using a Control and the arrow keys....or SHIFT control and arrrow to go backwards....but....you don't get the more detailed time stamp...honestly, until this very moment, I've never thought about seeing if I could play with the time stamp settings to get more precision.....in VLC, you get 100ths of a second time stamps, so counting frames, etc, is easy....

The simple way to see what your frame rate is is to advance frame by frame, watch the time stamp switch to a new second, and then count the number of frames till it switches again....different video standards have different frame rates....the Stewart video online is at 30 frames per second...

The car pictures are VERY cool!

[BisonBacker]

Guy on bv used to race these types of cars and explained in pretty good. Kid was an idiot for getting out of the car and then staying on the track.

This is it in a nutshell. The witch hunt to try to find criminal wrongdoing on Stewarts part is assinine and they ought to be asking the family of the kid why they raised an idiot!

[FormerPokeCenter]

Okay.....here's some images, with night time conditions, and lights at select places I could tell had lights in the Google Earth image....I used photos of Ward's sprint car to construct the first Sprint car model, then cloned it and changed the colors....Of course, now I see that I've got Stewart's wing wrong....but, I'm not gonna go back and change it....you'll have use your imagination....I've killed the better part of the day playing with this stuff ;) ADD/AHD can be fun sometime, but I gotta do stuff that pays the bills..The position of the blue 43 car and the Red Stewart cars are where I stopped teh animation, the cars yaw and are moving so the Stewart vehicle actually comes in close to 43's line more inside of where its at in this pic. It's possible be exactd with this stuff, but I'd need additional video views and I'd have to do some serious math to work out photogrammetry issues to figure out, exactly, where the kid was on the track because the video's depth of field makes lateral measurements difficult...


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[FormerPokeCenter]

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A reverse view...
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The view after 43 clears the area....Can you pick out the driver from the car?