Furman Loses A Pair Of Players

[SU DOG]

Can and does happen anywhere, so no finger pointing on my part. I would like to hear from 'Dins on here, however, as to if this was at all expected and to what degree it will hurt the teram.

http://www.fox23news.com/sports/story/Furman-dismisses-pair-from-team/JRfLMqUgQE2ClV1A8YYNWA.cspx?rss=44

[citdog]

furman sucks

[OL FU]

I didn't expect it and it certainly isn't going to help. As mentioned Hollman had All American Potential. No Clue what the problem was.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

They probably stood too near a bottle of beer.

[walliver]

I think they got caught dancing.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I think they got caught dancing.

Blame it on this guy

http://thetrendguys.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Footloose.jpg

[OL FU]

PS, Furman is no longer a Baptist school.. Dancing and drinking are allowed (in certain areas of the campus):p

[PaladinFan]

Big losses. Hollman is probably not a starter, but he's a do everything guy that is extremely difficult for an offense to scheme around. He just about single handedly beat South Carolina State in the playoffs.

Thoni is also a big loss. Thoni was suspended the early part of last season, and did not return to the Citadel game. It forced Furman to play out of position all along the offensive line, and Furman's early season struggles were well-documented. The center may well be the most important position on the field besides QB.

Furman is still pretty deep at both DB and OL. I was not aware of issues with Hollman, but I do believe Thoni had already been suspended once. Bruce Fowler strikes me as a guy that doesn't put up with stuff for very long.

[OL FU]

Big losses. Hollman is probably not a starter, but he's a do everything guy that is extremely difficult for an offense to scheme around. He just about single handedly beat South Carolina State in the playoffs.

Thoni is also a big loss. Thoni was suspended the early part of last season, and did not return to the Citadel game. It forced Furman to play out of position all along the offensive line, and Furman's early season struggles were well-documented. The center may well be the most important position on the field besides QB.

Furman is still pretty deep at both DB and OL. I was not aware of issues with Hollman, but I do believe Thoni had already been suspended once. Bruce Fowler strikes me as a guy that doesn't put up with stuff for very long.

I think Hollman started most games last year particularly the end of the season. He didn't start against NDSU. But he started against SCState. Wofford, Western, Samford. That's as far back as I went.

[SU DOG]

I applaud Coach Fowler and Furman for doing what I imagine is the right thing. I think most of the SoCon Teams, fortunately, do not "suck-up" to players who cannot abide by team rules and school codes of conduct. Second chances are sometimes OK, but discipline MUST be exercised IMO. I'm sure the 'Dins will be even better off with the right type of kids who put their team first.

[MR. CHICKEN]

PS, Furman is no longer a Baptist school.. Dancing and drinking are allowed (in certain areas of the campus):p


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[MR. CHICKEN]

furman sucks

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[MR. CHICKEN]

I didn't expect it and it certainly isn't going to help. As mentioned Hollman had All American Potential. No Clue what the problem was.


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[PaladinFan]

I think Hollman started most games last year particularly the end of the season. He didn't start against NDSU. But he started against SCState. Wofford, Western, Samford. That's as far back as I went.

I debated on how to phrase it. He is technically listed as a "nickel" -- a fifth defensive back. Our starting lineup changed week to week depending on the competition.

Hollman, I think, was primarily used to shut down speed guys from a glorified linebacker position. Some call it "monster," "rover," or whatever. Just a guy that lines up all over the field and causes havoc. He probably didn't start against NDSU given the Bison's propensity for north-south running (necessitating, perhaps, a third linebacker instead of a fifth DB).

You are more correct, though, in that he was a starter. Furman can still keep a starting lineup intact without him, though, as he was not one of our two starting corners, safeties, or linebackers. Still, he was something like fourth on the team in tackles.

South Carolina State, in particular, had no answer for him. Fowler stunted him against the motion in the Bulldog backfield and basically shut down the option game. Perhaps one of the great defensive adjustments I've ever seen Furman make in a game.

[citdog]

I debated on how to phrase it. He is technically listed as a "nickel" -- a fifth defensive back. Our starting lineup changed week to week depending on the competition.

Hollman, I think, was primarily used to shut down speed guys from a glorified linebacker position. Some call it "monster," "rover," or whatever. Just a guy that lines up all over the field and causes havoc. He probably didn't start against NDSU given the Bison's propensity for north-south running (necessitating, perhaps, a third linebacker instead of a fifth DB).

You are more correct, though, in that he was a starter. Furman can still keep a starting lineup intact without him, though, as he was not one of our two starting corners, safeties, or linebackers. Still, he was something like fourth on the team in tackles.

South Carolina State, in particular, had no answer for him. Fowler stunted him against the motion in the Bulldog backfield and basically shut down the option game. Perhaps one of the great defensive adjustments I've ever seen Furman make in a game.

This is looking like furman's squad is going to do what The Citadel did last year. HIGH expectations and lose a potential all-american center, ours was a two time all american, and then underachieve.

[PaladinFan]

This is looking like furman's squad is going to do what The Citadel did last year. HIGH expectations and lose a potential all-american center, ours was a two time all american, and then underachieve.

Perhaps. Two key players, but still a bunch of talent returning. I'd rather Furman be playing with them than without them, but I'm glad if there were dismissals it would be in the early part of the summer. Last season Furman lost players right at the beginning of the season, which put them largely in scramble mode for the first half of the year. At least this year they will be prepared for the absences.

[PaladinFan]

There is some speculation on our forum that the likely replacement for Hollman is Richard Hayes, who was recruited as a DB but spent a lot of time at QB last season in the wildcat. He may be among the best athletes in the SoCon.

[OL FU]

This is looking like furman's squad is going to do what The Citadel did last year. HIGH expectations and lose a potential all-american center, ours was a two time all american, and then underachieve.

We absolutely, unequivocally refused to do anything like the Citadel. xsmugx

[PaladinNation]

My guess is 'play any ol position' Charles Emert will play center.
Furman will have a very interesting blend of veterans and high potential newbies.
VETS
Emert C SR
Phillips G SR
Webber T SR
Marks T SR
Turner G JR
Floyd G JR
Monk T SO
Buonamia (http://furmanpaladins.com/sports/m-footbl/2014-15/bios/buonamia_jackson_zii1) T SO
Magee C SO
_______________

NEWBIES
Black T RSFR
Rice T SO
Schmidt C/G FR could see action this season
Wade T FR **
Bush G FR **
Bryant T FR **
** two star recruits, my guess is all three will be redshirted.
Schmidt could be the steal and most likely to play with Thoni's departure - Schmidt would have gotten more looks from schools and my guess some stars if he had played his entire career at Dalton McMichael… went to Oak Ridge Military prior and only played his Jr and Sr seasons.

Thoni will be missed cause he played nasty… Schmidt plays the same way just way bigger than Thoni:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iahof43GqAc