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TexasTerror
October 24th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Interesting read from the NCAA News on the status of Div II football and the two big decisions that are coming in January...

The most important of which is a vote on a second football playoff (keep an eye on this!) which would be a playoff for programs that fund up to 36 equivalencies and the other would be for programs that fund no more than 50 percent of the maximum (that is, 0 to 18 equivalencies). Could we see something similar to this in I-AA mid-major football?

By Jerry McGee
Wingate University


The Division II membership will make two of the most important decisions in its history when it meets January 8 in Orlando. The first decision involves whether we will establish a second football playoff, and the second relates to whether we will change the voting requirement to modify financial aid limits in any sport.

As chair of the Football Task Force that made these recommendations, I have followed the reaction to these proposals with interest and, occasionally, concern. Because these topics have generated so much emotion — and, in some cases, misinformation — I believe that the membership needs to be reminded about the reasoning that led to their consideration.

Most of those who follow Division II issues know that the task force was formed in the wake of 2005 Proposal No. 28, which would have reduced the number of financial aid equivalencies in football from 36 to 24. The sponsors of that proposal, the Pennsylvania State and Rocky Mountain Athletic Conferences, said that the financial environments in their regions prevent their programs from fully funding football and that they cannot compete with programs that do provide the maximum.

The 2005 proposal failed by a vote of 46-97, a result that some observers say illustrates Division II’s lack of desire to reduce football equivalency limits.

More below...

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walliver
October 24th, 2006, 12:14 PM
Some have noted, incorrectly, that we are creating a Division II-A and a II-AA. I understand the assumption since people are so familiar with the Division I model. But let me assure you that the task force has no intention to subdivide Division II. Instead, our mission will be to maintain a single level of football for conference membership, scheduling, rankings and so on. If the proposal is adopted, the only noticeable difference will be that the Football Committee will place teams in two brackets (one of 16 teams, the other of eight), rather than a single 24-team bracket.

One division, two champions?

They aren't going to call it II-A and II-AA, but that's what it looks like (without the attendance requirements)

AppGuy04
October 24th, 2006, 01:09 PM
This is getting ridiculous. It's like little league baseball where everyone gets a trophy just for participating.

NoCoDanny
October 24th, 2006, 01:36 PM
This is getting ridiculous. It's like little league baseball where everyone gets a trophy just for participating.

That would be awesome, that's how we'll get one sometime in the next century! :bang:

pantherclaw
October 24th, 2006, 02:43 PM
yeah appy state's gone all elitist on us just because they got some stinking trophy last year. the jerks. j/k xlolx xlolx xlolx :smiley_wi :smiley_wi :D :D

walliver
October 24th, 2006, 05:32 PM
I can see the ESPN Schedule for December 2007:

ESPN - NCAA PCS Championship (63 scholarship division)
ESPN2 - NCAA PCS CHampionship (62 scholarship division)
...
ESPN8 "The Ocho" - NCAA PCS Non-Scholarship but we offer needs based grants Championship
ESPN9 - NCAA PCS Non-scholarship Really Nonscholarship Championship

Cap'n Cat
October 24th, 2006, 05:51 PM
I think those guys in the RMAC and the PSUC are absolutely right. I coached in the RMAC at Fort Lewis for two years and it is brutal trying to fund scholarships at some of those places.

Their concern is very legit.

Marcus Garvey
October 25th, 2006, 11:27 AM
I think those guys in the RMAC and the PSUC are absolutely right. I coached in the RMAC at Fort Lewis for two years and it is brutal trying to fund scholarships at some of those places.

Their concern is very legit.

Cap'n, how would you compare DII to DIII, scholarships aside. Do you think the budgets are comparable?
To be honest, outside of the scholarships/equivalencies, I never saw much difference between the two. I've long thought that DII is slowly dying for all sports, not just football.