Post Your Top 15 for this Week

[FlyYtown]

With 7 of the top 13 teams losing, this Top 15 for this week will be interesting.. Post your Top 15 or 25 here... I am interested in seeing where a few teams go! Like YSU and Cal Poly.

[*****]

or if you are an AGS Poll voter post after the poll comes out tomorrow

[OL FU]

or if you are an AGS Poll voter post after the poll comes out tomorrow

When did that happen?

[*****]

When did that happen?When did what happen? The poll always comes out on Monday. :confused:

[AppGuy04]

When did that happen?

I don't think its a requirement, just an understood rule OL

[MplsBison]

1) Ill State
2) UMass
3) Montana
4) JMU
5) NDSU

There's my top 5.

Too much of a jumble after that.

[AppGuy04]

1) Ill State
2) UMass
3) Montana
4) JMU
5) NDSU

There's my top 5.

Too much of a jumble after that.

ASU?

[shakdaddy3]

1) Ill State
2) UMass
3) Montana
4) JMU
5) NDSU

There's my top 5.

Too much of a jumble after that.

yea, no ASU? i'm a huge ILSU supporter, but ASU is #1 until knocked off IMO... montana, ILSU, UMass are interchangeable at 2-3-4 for me...

[MplsBison]

As I've already said, the SoCon is down this year. It's working against you.

Nevermind the fact that it took you 2OT to beat GSU, who lost to Chatt., who lost to NDSU 34-14, ...etc.


I'm not a guy who will keep a team in the same spot in a poll just because they haven't lost.

I think that's BS and I won't do it.


You might see me with UMass #1 next week if both UMass and ILL State win.

[gobucknell06]

Top 15

1. UMass
2. Illinois St.
3. North Dakota State
4. App St
5. Montana
6. North Dakota St.
7. N. Iowa
8. New Hampshire
9. Maine
10. Furman11. Youngstown St
12. Cal POLY
13. San Diego
14. Richmond
15. S. Illinois

[MplsBison]

#3 and #6?

[mcveyrl]

yea, no ASU? i'm a huge ILSU supporter, but ASU is #1 until knocked off IMO... montana, ILSU, UMass are interchangeable at 2-3-4 for me...


I agree. You can't knock them off b/c of a tough OT road win. Plus, if you base a drop in rankings on a bad win, then you have to look at JMU 14, Bloomsburg 3.

1. App State
2. Montana
3. Ill. State
4. UMass
5. JMU

[th0m]

#3 and #6?

I think he meant to put JMU at #6 (since they're nowhere else to be found in his poll) and NDSU at #3.

[Gil Dobie]

I agree. You can't knock them off b/c of a tough OT road win. Plus, if you base a drop in rankings on a bad win, then you have to look at JMU 14, Bloomsburg 3.

1. App State
2. Montana
3. Ill. State
4. UMass
5. JMU

I have no problem switching teams with the same record from one poll spot to another. JMU-Bloomsberg was not this weekend so it didn't have as big affect on my vote as ASU-GSU.

[AppGuy04]

As I've already said, the SoCon is down this year. It's working against you.

Nevermind the fact that it took you 2OT to beat GSU, who lost to Chatt., who lost to NDSU 34-14, ...etc.


I'm not a guy who will keep a team in the same spot in a poll just because they haven't lost.

I think that's BS and I won't do it.


You might see me with UMass #1 next week if both UMass and ILL State win.

oh yeah, cause you can judge a team by the play of its whole conference:rolleyes:

So I guess by that logic, that Southern Utah should be a top 25 team since 3 of the other 4 teams in their conference are ranked, PLEASE

[MplsBison]

Pretty easy to defeat your counter.

You CAN take the top team in a weak league down.

You CAN'T take the low team in a strong league up.

[AppGuy04]

Pretty easy to defeat your counter.

You CAN take the top team in a weak league down.

You CAN'T take the low team in a strong league up.

Well, considering we dominated your #4 team, doesn't say much for your "logic"

I understand that a conference as a whole can affect a teams SOS, but if you aren't looking at that team individually then thats just idiotic. ASU is no worse than #3 right now, I don't care what "logic" you use.

[DB_Atlantic10]

Top 15

1. UMass
2. Illinois St.
3. North Dakota State
4. App St
5. Montana
6. North Dakota St.
7. N. Iowa
8. New Hampshire
9. Maine
10. Furman11. Youngstown St
12. Cal POLY
13. San Diego
14. Richmond
15. S. Illinois

I think JMU at least deserves a 15 spot...what gives......xlolx

[shakdaddy3]

As I've already said, the SoCon is down this year. It's working against you.

Nevermind the fact that it took you 2OT to beat GSU, who lost to Chatt., who lost to NDSU 34-14, ...etc.


I'm not a guy who will keep a team in the same spot in a poll just because they haven't lost.

I think that's BS and I won't do it.


You might see me with UMass #1 next week if both UMass and ILL State win.

by your logic, Montana shouldn't be ranked high either considering they had a close win against weber st...

i don't get it...

[MplsBison]

My logic doesn't say that a win should move a team down.

My logic says that a win shouldn't guarantee a team at least the same spot as the previous week.

[MplsBison]

Well, considering we dominated your #4 team, doesn't say much for your "logic"

Actually, it doesn't have any relevance to my logic.

You beat the low team in a strong league. Good for you. So what?


You're still the best team in a weak league. And that's dragging you down.


Don't worry you're still in the top 10. You're going to the playoffs. You'll have your chance to prove yourself.


ASU is no worse than #3 right now, I don't care what "logic" you use.

There you go.

Just stick your head in the sand and the bad men will go away eventually.

[shakdaddy3]

My logic doesn't say that a win should move a team down.

My logic says that a win shouldn't guarantee a team at least the same spot as the previous week.

still doesn't answer as to why a tough rivalry game win by ASU knocks them out of the top 5, but a tight win against a weak weber st. keeps montana in it... that don't make no sense!

as a matter of fact, montana has had 2 very close wins the last 2 weeks with opponents under .500

where's your logic? please explain!

[Tailbone]

Actually, it doesn't have any relevance to my logic.
You beat the low team in a strong league. Good for you. So what?
.........

Are you now discrediting NDSU's win over Minnesota? :rolleyes:

[AppGuy04]

If his logic was applied consistently, Montana would be nowhere near #2 considering how they have played recently and also considering the Big Sky is down as well. Looks like selective application of said "rules" to me

[smallcollegefbfan]

As I've already said, the SoCon is down this year. It's working against you.

Nevermind the fact that it took you 2OT to beat GSU, who lost to Chatt., who lost to NDSU 34-14, ...etc.


I'm not a guy who will keep a team in the same spot in a poll just because they haven't lost.

I think that's BS and I won't do it.


You might see me with UMass #1 next week if both UMass and ILL State win.

You can't go by scores in all games. I believe ASU whipped UTC pretty good and if you went by scores you would have thought GSU would beat UTC, but they did not.

I agree about NDSU being a top team. I think they are a legit 4-7 team right now.

To me UMASS would be #1 if they had beaten somebody tough lately. URI is not very good and neither is W&M and others. I want to see how they do in the last few games before I say they are tops. I have ASU #1 and then UMASS #2.

I always think about the bullseye a #1 team has on their back and how tough it is to actually stay #1 for a while. ASU almost felt the curse of the #1 that we have seen the last couple years. They came out of a tough game with a win so they are my top team this week. However, UMASS could make a huge statement over the next couple of week while ASU has really just one test in Furman. If ASU beats Furman Saturday I don't see anyone else beating them until the Semis at best.

[smallcollegefbfan]

My top 5:

1. App State
2. UMASS
3. Illinois State
4. North Dakota State
5. Montana

I am not a voter in the AGS poll but would if I was ever asked to. I had Montana #3 last week in my personal poll but dropped them after a close one against Weber State.

[napkinn]

[QUOTE=shakdaddy3]still doesn't answer as to why a tough rivalry game win by ASU knocks them out of the top 5, but a tight win against a weak weber st. keeps montana in it... that don't make no sense!
[QUOTE]

Rivalry is overrated. Rival teams change in stature. I.E. UMass played URI this week, They've played URI more over their history than any other team (rivalry?!?). They manhandled them to a 41-16 victory. Rivalry games are BS. A team doesn't get better because it's playing another team that it has a tough history with. They have to have talent to begin with.

I can totally see MplsBison's logic. It's rational. Just because the BMW 3 series is the benchmark doesn't mean it's the best. It means that everyone else has to perpetually catch up.

[napkinn]

You can't go by scores in all games. I believe ASU whipped UTC pretty good and if you went by scores you would have thought GSU would beat UTC, but they did not.

I agree about NDSU being a top team. I think they are a legit 4-7 team right now.

To me UMASS would be #1 if they had beaten somebody tough lately. URI is not very good and neither is W&M and others. I want to see how they do in the last few games before I say they are tops. I have ASU #1 and then UMASS #2.

I always think about the bullseye a #1 team has on their back and how tough it is to actually stay #1 for a while. ASU almost felt the curse of the #1 that we have seen the last couple years. They came out of a tough game with a win so they are my top team this week. However, UMASS could make a huge statement over the next couple of week while ASU has really just one test in Furman. If ASU beats Furman Saturday I don't see anyone else beating them until the Semis at best.

Funny how everyone forgets that UMass beat a then RANKED Towson team 35-0 last week. Oh, and THREW 5 TD passes to a team that had allowed TWO in all their other games this season combine. Sooner or later people will begin to realize that it's not the other teams being crappy, it's just that UMass is clicking THAT WELL recently.

[DaGriz]

You can't go by scores in all games. I believe ASU whipped UTC pretty good and if you went by scores you would have thought GSU would beat UTC, but they did not.

I agree. I think you almost have to leave teams in I-AA at their same ranking even in a close in-conference game because we don't have nearly the tv coverage to actually evaluate how a team played. All we pretty much see is stats and grumbling from fans. Here's an example. We rarely blow out teams in conference. As far as the Griz, everybody in our conference usually gives us their "A" game. That doesn't mean we (or ASU or who ever else is winning but winning ugly) doesn't have one of the top teams in the country. But you wouldn't know it by looking at some of the low scoring games we have had in the past.

2004
ISU homecoming W 24-22
@ EWU W 31-28
@ PSU L 32-35
N. Wstrn St first round playoffs W 56-7
New Hampshire 2nd round W 47-17
Sam Houston 3rd round W 34-13
and loss to JMU in the champ.

Same in 2000
Sacramento State (Homecoming) W 24-20
@ Cal State - Northridge * W 34-30
Idaho State * * W 38-21
@ Weber State * * W 30-28
Then we went on to lose by 2 to GSU in the N. Champ. That's why I don't think you can drop a team because they didn't blow out somebody in their conference, especially on the road.

[AppGuy04]

We hadn't won a game at Paulson in 10 years and we won this one with a -4 turnover ratio, I think thats says something about our team more than the fianl score. I will take the win and whatever ranking comes with it.

[Saint3333]

AG04 let's just win the remaining games the ranking will take care of itself as the Gateway and A-10 teams continue to beat each other.

A 10-1 ASU team would be ranked #1, if the boys take it one game at a time and can limit their turnovers ASU wins the next 3 weeks.

[MplsBison]

still doesn't answer as to why a tough rivalry game win by ASU knocks them out of the top 5, but a tight win against a weak weber st. keeps montana in it... that don't make no sense!


It does make sense if I didn't have ASU in the top 5 last week either. I didn't.

ASU doesn't go down for me this week. They stayed about where they were, which was outside the top 5.

[MplsBison]

Are you now discrediting NDSU's win over Minnesota?

NDSU didn't beat Minnesota.

However, my logic only applies when talking about the 8 auto bid DI-AA leagues which are (roughly) comparable.

Trying to compare differnet leagues doesn't quite work out as easily.

[Saint3333]

ASU doesn't go down for me this week. They stayed about where they were, which was outside the top 5.

ASU not a top five team:nonono2:

I guess you have JMU above them...

[MplsBison]

This week I do.

Last week YSU was above.

[Mountaineer]

Like I said last week - thank god the poll is taken as a whole and balances out. :thumbsup:

Some of these individual polls are absolutely asinine.

[shakdaddy3]

Like I said last week - thank god the poll is taken as a whole and balances out. :thumbsup:

Some of these individual polls are absolutely asinine.

yeah, some illogical logic... ASU has played well and then has a close game against a pretty good opponent, but Montana has has 2 close calls with teams that are under 500 (i think 5 wins combined for the 2 teams), but they are top 5.... xidiotx

oh well, to each their own

[JMU2K_DukeDawg]

Instead of bitching about logic and reasoning, I'm just gonna post my top 15 as the thread requests:

1. App. St.
2. UMass
3. Ill. St.
4. Montana
5. JMU
6. NDSt.
7. Furman
8. N. Iowa
9. Maine
10. Cal Poly
11. Youngstown St.
12. Richmond
13. UNH
14. S. Illinois
15. Coastal Carolina

W. Kentucky, Delaware, and San Diego are among schools not so far behind....

Hampton should be down to 22 or so.
Charleston Southern is making some noise.

Did I really mention San Diego in this thread? DOH!!:bang: xlolx xlolx xlolx

[ISUMatt]

4. Massachusetts

Thats all Im giving away!

[umassfan]

4. Massachusetts

Thats all Im giving away!
Too Low!

[shakdaddy3]

4. Massachusetts

Thats all Im giving away!
Too HIGH! :smiley_wi

[shakdaddy3]

1. Appalachian St (7-1)
2. Montana (6-1)
3. Illinois St (6-1)
4. James Madison (6-1)
5. Massachusetts (6-1)
6. North Dakota St (6-1)
7. Northern Iowa (5-2)
8. Furman (6-2)
9. Youngstown St (6-2)
10. Cal Poly (5-2)
11. New Hampshire (5-2)
12. Richmond (5-2)
13. Southern Illinois (5-2)
14. Tennessee Martin (6-1)
15. Maine (5-2)

here's mine.. no more bitching about other peoples :thumbsup:

[umassfan]

1. Appalachian St (7-1)
2. Montana (6-1)
3. Illinois St (6-1)
4. James Madison (6-1)
5. Massachusetts (6-1)
6. North Dakota St (6-1)
7. Northern Iowa (5-2)
8. Furman (6-2)
9. Youngstown St (6-2)
10. Cal Poly (5-2)
11. New Hampshire (5-2)
12. Richmond (5-2)
13. Southern Illinois (5-2)
14. Tennessee Martin (6-1)
15. Maine (5-2)

here's mine.. no more bitching about other peoples :thumbsup:

JMU has a I-AA loss and UMass doesnt therefore they shouldnt be ahead.

[FlyYtown]

1. Illinois St (6-1)
2. Appalachian St (7-1)
3. Montana (6-1)

---where it gets really hard!---
4. James Madison (6-1)
5. Massachusetts (6-1)
6. Furman (6-2)
7. North Dakota St (6-1)
8. Northern Iowa (5-2)
9. Youngstown St (6-2)
10. Cal Poly (5-2)
12. Richmond (5-2)
12. Maine (5-2)
13. New Hampshire (5-2)
14. Southern Illinois (5-2)
15. UC-Davis (4-3)

#22---The Western Kentucky Hilltoppers! Very impressive in Gateway Play!

[Sam Adams]

1. Appalachian St (7-1)
2. Montana (6-1)
3. Illinois St (6-1)
4. UMASS (6-1)
5. James Madison (6-1)
6. Furman (6-2)
7. North Dakota St (6-1)
8. Northern Iowa (5-2)
9. Youngstown St (6-2)
10. Cal Poly (5-2)
11. Maine (5-2)
12. Southern Illinois (5-2)
13. Richmond (5-2)
14. New Hampshire (5-2)
15. UC-Davis (4-3)

[Tailbone]

NDSU didn't beat Minnesota.
....

Wow, It's worse than I thought. :D

[Gil Dobie]

JMU has a I-AA loss and UMass doesnt therefore they shouldnt be ahead.

They NDSU should be moved up, no I-AA losses. :smiley_wi

[Eaglegus2]

My logic doesn't say that a win should move a team down.

My logic says that a win shouldn't guarantee a team at least the same spot as the previous week.


Using your analogy, a team losing to whomever is still a lose.

This means you don't retain your position either.;) :D

[ISUMatt]

OK 1 more...

23. Coastal Carolina

[YoUDeeMan]

I am not a voter in the AGS poll but would if I was ever asked to.

Go to the poll section and read the rules. Get ready for next year.

[psc2445]

It does make sense if I didn't have ASU in the top 5 last week either. I didn't.

ASU doesn't go down for me this week. They stayed about where they were, which was outside the top 5.

wow, you need some help with your rankings. who else has asu outside their top 5? i am betting not many. check the ags poll tomorrow for insightful, rational rankings.xidiotx

[mcveyrl]

i can see why you would not have ASU in your top five.

if you thought LSU was the initials of some D2 school. this, by the way, is the only explanation i could come up with.

[psc2445]

[QUOTE=shakdaddy3]1. Appalachian St (7-1)
2. Montana (6-1)
3. Illinois St (6-1)
4. James Madison (6-1)
5. Massachusetts (6-1)
6. North Dakota St (6-1)
7. Northern Iowa (5-2)
8. Furman (6-2)
9. Youngstown St (6-2)
10. Cal Poly (5-2)
11. New Hampshire (5-2)
12. Richmond (5-2)
13. Southern Illinois (5-2)
14. Tennessee Martin (6-1)
15. Maine (5-2)

here's mine:twocents:
1. ASU
2. UMASS
3. UM
4. ILL STATE
5. NDSU
6. JMU
7. UNI
8. FU
9. CAL POLY
10. YSU
11. UNH
12. UR
13. SIU
14. HARVARD
15. UT-MARTIN

best i could do based on this crazy weekend

[FargoBison]

Now (Last Week)
1.App St(1)
2.Montana(2)
3.Ill St(3)
4.UMASS(6)
5.NDSU(5)
6.JMU(8)
7.Furman(10)
8.UNI(13)
9.YSU(4)
10.Cal Poly(8)
11.UNH(9)
12.Richmond(11)
13.SIU(12)
14.EIU(16)
15.Maine(17)

[shakdaddy3]

JMU has a I-AA loss and UMass doesnt therefore they shouldnt be ahead.
if that were my logic behind my rankings then i would agree, but it isn't, so i don't...

they have been playing very well since their tough loss to ASU... UMass hasn't had too hard of a schedule IMO and that's what holds them back in my rankings... don't like it? well, keep crying like USD fans and everyone will eventually cave in... rite? xcoffeex

[umassfan]

if that were my logic behind my rankings then i would agree, but it isn't, so i don't...

they have been playing very well since their tough loss to ASU... UMass hasn't had too hard of a schedule IMO and that's what holds them back in my rankings... don't like it? well, keep crying like USD fans and everyone will eventually cave in... rite? xcoffeex
We play in the A10 not some crappy conference. The A10 is rated 2nd in last weeks GPI by far. We also have played a I-A school who is 5-2. We have outscored the teams we have played 252-78.

[PantherRob82]

To me, it doesn't matter where we're ranked. If we take care of business we'll be home this holiday season waiting to welcome someone to the dome.

[umassfan]

To me, it doesn't matter where we're ranked. If we take care of business we'll be home this holiday season waiting to welcome someone to the dome.
If you have another loss, you will be a first round roadie

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

Too Low!
I'm not too worried about the rankings. I'm hoping JMU can take care of business this weekend in Richmond. If Rascati has a good game I am confident JMU will win. I'm still waiting for Rascati to have a great game.

[Husky Alum]

Like I said last week - thank god the poll is taken as a whole and balances out. :thumbsup:

Some of these individual polls are absolutely asinine.

That's why I generally don't post mine. There are too many people whose self interests are potentially offended by a ranking of one team or another.

[JMU-MRD-DAD]

That's why I generally don't post mine. There are too many people whose self interests are potentially offended by a ranking of one team or another.
Good point....you can be high in the rankings all year but you gotta win each week!!!!

GO DUKES!!!!!

[JMUfan2008]

I'm not too worried about the rankings. I'm hoping JMU can take care of business this weekend in Richmond. If Rascati has a good game I am confident JMU will win. I'm still waiting for Rascati to have a great game.

I enjoy looking at the polls and when I get really into it, I realize that if JMU wins out they'll be seeded, so I could care less what the polls say, just whether or not my team is playing well.