Why Citdog Isn't an MLS Soccer Fan

[Lehigh Football Nation]

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[PaladinFan]

It is hard to believe that people still do not realize that William T. Sherman is actually offensive to many in the South.

[OL FU]

I think they understood

[superman7515]

I think they understood

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was Columbus' point.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was Columbus' point.

He's absolutely a local hero in Columbus.

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It is hard to believe that people still do not realize that William T. Sherman is actually offensive to many in the South.

Maybe Ohio should put a picture of him on their flag or something, to celebrate history or something.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Perhaps the Ohio Club can purchase the rights to "The Burn" name from FC Dallas???

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Every time I see this I think of citdog immediately, and how smackity smack smack it is.

[citdog]

He's absolutely a local hero in Columbus.

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Maybe Ohio should put a picture of him on their flag or something, to celebrate history or something.

that's not surprising. many idiots in the country consider his superior to be an american hero.


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It's too bad that nodaks people weren't here yet, they didn't come until AFTER collaborating with the nazis.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

that's not surprising. many idiots in the country consider his superior to be an american hero.


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It's too bad that nodaks people weren't here yet, they didn't come until AFTER collaborating with the nazis.

My people came from Canada.

[citdog]

My people came from Canada.


not before helping out 'ol uncle adolph though


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[NoDak 4 Ever]

I have no idea where you're going with this. Then again, who does...ever?

[FormerPokeCenter]

I have no idea ...ever


Yeah...we know...

[JayJ79]

It is hard to believe that people still do not realize that William T. Sherman is actually offensive to many in the South.

Are Eisenhower or Patton offensive to Germans?

[PaladinFan]

Are Eisenhower or Patton offensive to Germans?

I think the Germans of that era are offensive to the Germans.

[citdog]

Are Eisenhower or Patton offensive to Germans?

Neither IKE nor Patton made war upon defenseless old men, women, and children. sherman is a WAR CRIMINAL and if he WOULD have been german in the 40's and did what he did the Allies would have stretched his neck with a rope until he was dead.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Neither IKE nor Patton made war upon defenseless old men, women, and children. sherman is a WAR CRIMINAL and if he WOULD have been german in the 40's and did what he did the Allies would have stretched his neck with a rope until he was dead.

Not really. Harry Truman basically did the same thing in 1945. War enders are war enders, they aren't supposed to be gentle.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Not really. Harry Truman basically did the same thing in 1945. War enders are war enders, they aren't supposed to be gentle.

So General Sherman carpet bombed Atlanta with leaflets advising residents that he was about to burn the mother****er to the ground before he actually did it? Sherman made contact with Confederate Leaders and said, in essence, "Surrender, or I'll burn Atlanta, down?"

What the **** is wrong with you??

I mean, seriously????

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I just noticed that the poster also said "Warmest Regards".

[NoDak 4 Ever]

So General Sherman carpet bombed Atlanta with leaflets advising residents that he was about to burn the mother****er to the ground before he actually did it? Sherman made contact with Confederate Leaders and said, in essence, "Surrender, or I'll burn Atlanta, down?"

What the **** is wrong with you??

I mean, seriously????

What's wrong with me is I keep responding to your ****.


Up to a quarter million people died in those bombings. You southern guys don't have a lot of perspective do you?

[FormerPokeCenter]

What's wrong with me is I keep responding to your ****.


Up to a quarter million people died in those bombings. You southern guys don't have a lot of perspective do you?

Listen, Dickhead...

Atlanta Surrendered in September of 1864. Sherman occupied it until November of 1864 and burned it to the ground on his way out...He didn't end the war...that didn't happen till April of 1865...

By contrast, the Allies sent communication, carpet bombed leaflets and announced their target, giving the Japanese a date and time certain to surrender or face annihilation.

Weren't you the guy shreiking about conflation just a few days ago?

Holy False Moral Equivalencies, Batman! AGAIN

Seriously, what the **** IS wrong with you?? How can one guy be so ****ing WRONG at every ****ing juncture???

[citdog]

What's wrong with me is I keep responding to your ****.


Up to a quarter million people died in those bombings. You southern guys don't have a lot of perspective do you?


We don't? We lost that many to the vile yankee invader. But killed 450,000 of them. HOW I WISH IT WERE 4 MILLION! You want some perspective extrapolate that # to the population today.

[citdog]

I just noticed that the poster also said "Warmest Regards".

why does it concern you ellis island trash?

[citdog]

There is no reasoning with people who think it acceptable to force others at the point of a bayonet to remain in a political alliance that they joined voluntarily.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Listen, Dickhead...

Atlanta Surrendered in September of 1864. Sherman occupied it until November of 1864 and burned it to the ground on his way out...He didn't end the war...that didn't happen till April of 1865...

By contrast, the Allies sent communication, carpet bombed leaflets and announced their target, giving the Japanese a date and time certain to surrender or face annihilation.

Weren't you the guy shreiking about conflation just a few days ago?

Holy False Moral Equivalencies, Batman! AGAIN

Seriously, what the **** IS wrong with you?? How can one guy be so ****ing WRONG at every ****ing juncture???

Someone asked about Eisenhower earlier vis a vis his participation in WWII. I posited that the bombings in Japan were a larger civilian catastrophe than the burning of Atlanta (the civilian toll which is often disputed).

There is nothing wrong with me. Does that finally answer your stupid question?

[citdog]

Someone asked about Eisenhower earlier vis a vis his participation in WWII. I posited that the bombings in Japan were a larger civilian catastrophe than the burning of Atlanta (the civilian toll which is often disputed).

There is nothing wrong with me. Does that finally answer your stupid question?

Since you mention Genl Eisenhower.........








August 1, 1960
Dear Mr. President:
At the Republican Convention I heard you mention that you have the pictures of four (4) great Americans in your office, and that included in these is a picture of Robert E. Lee.
I do not understand how any American can include Robert E. Lee as a person to be emulated, and why the President of the United States of America should do so is certainly beyond me.
The most outstanding thing that Robert E. Lee did was to devote his best efforts to the destruction of the United States Government, and I am sure that you do not say that a person who tries to destroy our Government is worthy of being hailed as one of our heroes.
Will you please tell me just why you hold him in such high esteem?
Sincerely yours,
Leon W. Scott




Eisenhower's response, written on White House letterhead, reads as follows:



August 9, 1960
Dear Dr. Scott:
Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War Between the States the issue of Secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.
General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.
From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee's caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the nation's wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.
Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.
Sincerely,
Dwight D. Eisenhower

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Since you mention Genl Eisenhower.........








August 1, 1960
Dear Mr. President:
At the Republican Convention I heard you mention that you have the pictures of four (4) great Americans in your office, and that included in these is a picture of Robert E. Lee.
I do not understand how any American can include Robert E. Lee as a person to be emulated, and why the President of the United States of America should do so is certainly beyond me.
The most outstanding thing that Robert E. Lee did was to devote his best efforts to the destruction of the United States Government, and I am sure that you do not say that a person who tries to destroy our Government is worthy of being hailed as one of our heroes.
Will you please tell me just why you hold him in such high esteem?
Sincerely yours,
Leon W. Scott



Eisenhower's response, written on White House letterhead, reads as follows:



August 9, 1960
Dear Dr. Scott:
Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War Between the States the issue of Secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.
General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.
From deep conviction I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee's caliber would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the nation's wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.
Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.
Sincerely,
Dwight D. Eisenhower






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[FormerPokeCenter]

Someone asked about Eisenhower earlier vis a vis his participation in WWII. I posited that the bombings in Japan were a larger civilian catastrophe than the burning of Atlanta (the civilian toll which is often disputed).

There is nothing wrong with me. Does that finally answer your stupid question?

Yes, clearly, in light of the conversation focusing on Sherman's war crimes and the post you made as follows, "
Not really. Harry Truman basically did the same thing in 1945. War enders are war enders, they aren't supposed to be gentle." it's obvious you were talking about Eisenhower...



Houston, I see why we have a problem....

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Yes, clearly, in light of the conversation focusing on Sherman's war crimes and the post you made as follows, "" it's obvious you were talking about Eisenhower...



Houston, I see why we have a problem....

The only problem is your inability to have a conversation that isn't about me.



Are Eisenhower or Patton offensive to Germans?


Neither IKE nor Patton made war upon defenseless old men, women, and children. sherman is a WAR CRIMINAL and if he WOULD have been german in the 40's and did what he did the Allies would have stretched his neck with a rope until he was dead.

and I said Truman did, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of civilians dead, leaflet drops or no. For that he was hailed as the man who brought the war to a close.

Now, hopefully we can start talking about something besides your hard on for me.

[FormerPokeCenter]

The only problem is your inability to have a conversation that isn't about me.






and I said Truman did, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of civilians dead, leaflet drops or no. For that he was hailed as the man who brought the war to a close.

Now, hopefully we can start talking about something besides your hard on for me.


You mistake my inability to resist giving you a shove down the textual escalator for making the conversation about you, Slinkyboy...

When somebody point-by-point dismantles your ridiculously stupid arguments, they're not making the conversation about you, dip****, they're simply correcting the factual record...


Stupidity and Narcissism is an ugly combination, NoFact. But, I suppose you've got to go with your "strengths," ...such as they are...

[Grizalltheway]

Listen, Dickhead...

Atlanta Surrendered in September of 1864. Sherman occupied it until November of 1864 and burned it to the ground on his way out...He didn't end the war...that didn't happen till April of 1865...

By contrast, the Allies sent communication, carpet bombed leaflets and announced their target, giving the Japanese a date and time certain to surrender or face annihilation.

Weren't you the guy shreiking about conflation just a few days ago?

Holy False Moral Equivalencies, Batman! AGAIN

Seriously, what the **** IS wrong with you?? How can one guy be so ****ing WRONG at every ****ing juncture???

Leaflets weren't dropped before we firebombed dozens of Japanese cities, killing hundreds of thousands.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Bomb_damage_in_Tokyo.jpg

War is hell, which is why you shouldn't start one you have no chance of winning...

[citdog]

Leaflets weren't dropped before we firebombed dozens of Japanese cities, killing hundreds of thousands.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Bomb_damage_in_Tokyo.jpg

War is hell, which is why you shouldn't start one you have no chance of winning...


NOT in the 1860's it wasn't. The outside world was APPALLED at the way the 'late united States' made war upon those who they wanted to force to love them again.

expelling a foreign power from your property, which happens to completely dominate the approaches to your principal seaport, is a natural act by a Nation.

[344Johnson]

Truman dropped nukes which saved millions of lives...

Sherman burned a city to the ground because he wanted to.

Very large difference between the intentions of the two individuals.

[citdog]

Johnson.... one must pluralize city to cities to be correct about the War Crimes commited on Confederate civilians by the fiend sherman. People often forget that the human excrement who accompanied sherman also burnt Columbia.

[FormerPokeCenter]

They burned pretty much the entire South. The only reason ATL gets the publicicity about it is because of Gone With The Wind...

Famously, Sherman spared LSU because he was the head master there before hostilities broke out...

[PaladinFan]

They burned pretty much the entire South. The only reason ATL gets the publicicity about it is because of Gone With The Wind...

Famously, Sherman spared LSU because he was the head master there before hostilities broke out...

There are a number of interesting stories about why and how Sherman left alone certain places. Madison, Georgia for instance, which has some wonderful antebellum architecture, wasn't touched (ostensibly due to several prominent union sympathizers).

One of my favorite stories is that General Johnston, whom Sherman chased throughout Georgia and the Carolinas, died from pneumonia years after the war after refusing to put on his cap at Sherman's funeral, despite frigid and rainy weather. Not a lot of men like that still floating around, I think.

[FormerPokeCenter]

There are a number of interesting stories about why and how Sherman left alone certain places. Madison, Georgia for instance, which has some wonderful antebellum architecture, wasn't touched (ostensibly due to several prominent union sympathizers).

One of my favorite stories is that General Johnston, whom Sherman chased throughout Georgia and the Carolinas, died from pneumonia years after the war after refusing to put on his cap at Sherman's funeral, despite frigid and rainy weather. Not a lot of men like that still floating around, I think.


Honor is, apparently, an artform that's very nearly dead...

[NoDak 4 Ever]

He was a awarded a 5 star rank for his service in the war. Somebody liked him.

[citdog]

He was a awarded a 5 star rank for his service in the war. Somebody liked him.

HE WAS? nodak you know so little it's ASTOUNDING!

5 Star wasn't even a rank until 1944.

[CID1990]

He was a awarded a 5 star rank for his service in the war. Somebody liked him.

wut?


lol

[citdog]

There are a number of interesting stories about why and how Sherman left alone certain places. Madison, Georgia for instance, which has some wonderful antebellum architecture, wasn't touched (ostensibly due to several prominent union sympathizers).

One of my favorite stories is that General Johnston, whom Sherman chased throughout Georgia and the Carolinas, died from pneumonia years after the war after refusing to put on his cap at Sherman's funeral, despite frigid and rainy weather. Not a lot of men like that still floating around, I think.


The best shot fired at the South was the one that wounded old Eggleston at Seven Pines. He had big plans to outflank sherman at Havana.



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[caribbeanhen]

I dropped in to see what Citdog had against soccer.... shoulda know better

[OL FU]

I lived in Atlanta for about a year and a half. I hate Sherman because he didn't finish the jobxmadx

[FormerPokeCenter]

nodak you know so little it's ASTOUNDING!.

Citdog, you Sir, have a talent for the understatement....

[NoDak 4 Ever]

HE WAS? nodak you know so little it's ASTOUNDING!

5 Star wasn't even a rank until 1944.

I apologize for my sloppy phrasing. He was named General of the Army, which was eventually denoted by 5 stars. I was using the parlance the speaker used at the celebration ceremony I went to commemorating his hero's welcome back to Columbus.


the rank and the sentiment are the same.

[OhioHen]

The best shot fired at the South was the one that wounded old Eggleston at Seven Pines. He had big plans to outflank sherman at Havana.




I would argue that the most significant shot fired against the South was the one that mortally wounded the other General Johnston. A great military leader (both tactically and inspirationally) was lost when General Albert Sidney Johnston fell at Shiloh. We may never have spoken of the destruction of Georgia and South Carolina perpetrated by Sherman's army had this not occurred.

[AshevilleApp2]

I lived in Atlanta for about a year and a half. I hate Sherman because he didn't finish the jobxmadx

xlolx

Close the thread!

[OL FU]

Johnson.... one must pluralize city to cities to be correct about the War Crimes commited on Confederate civilians by the fiend sherman. People often forget that the human excrement who accompanied sherman also burnt Columbia.

My recollection, and I am sure you know better, was that the destruction of Atlanta may have been more of an afterthought or just not stopping federal troops when they started the rampage. The destruction was of South Carolina was pre-meditated and ordered.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Maybe they can reuse this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/45/Atlanta_Flames_Logo.svg/216px-Atlanta_Flames_Logo.svg.png

[superman7515]

the rank and the sentiment are the same.

No offense NoDak, but to this day his rank is still officially listed as 4 stars. Only Marshall, MacArthur, Eisenhower, Arnold, and Bradley (thanks to a technicality when he became chair of the JCS and was overseeing a superior; MacArthur) were 5 star in the Army, and all of them officially outranked the position that Sherman was in. The title was similar, but the rank is not considered the same.

[darell1976]

I dropped in to see what Citdog had against soccer.... shoulda know better

Me to, I thought it was a soccer talk not a history lesson.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

No offense NoDak, but to this day his rank is still officially listed as 4 stars. Only Marshall, MacArthur, Eisenhower, Arnold, and Bradley (thanks to a technicality when he became chair of the JCS and was overseeing a superior; MacArthur) were 5 star in the Army, and all of them officially outranked the position that Sherman was in. The title was similar, but the rank is not considered the same.

I'm not offended at all. I have very little stake in this conversation save to exalt the great American war hero, William Tecumseh Sherman. My apologies are only to his legacy.

[CID1990]

I'm not offended at all. I have very little stake in this conversation save to exalt the great American war hero, William Tecumseh Sherman. My apologies are only to his legacy.

and it appears your usual level of accuracy is intact, as well

i think Im going to start a thread about our postwar treatment of the Plains Indians and see where you come down on that one as it pertains to your hero

[citdog]

I'm not offended at all. I have very little stake in this conversation save to exalt the great American war hero, William Tecumseh Sherman. My apologies are only to his legacy.

The Native Americans don't consider him or sheridan a hero and RIGHTFULLY so. The yankee played the part the English did from 1775-1783 in 1861-1865.

[BisonFan02]

not before helping out 'ol uncle adolph though


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Oddly enough, I'm 100% "ND" Norwegian and the vast majority of my ancestors fled Norway because of this threat....many of which went on to serve in the US military in WWI, WWII, and the Korean War. This was fairly common and caused a large influx of Scandinavian immigration in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

[frozennorth]

Listen, Dickhead...

Atlanta Surrendered in September of 1864. Sherman occupied it until November of 1864 and burned it to the ground on his way out...He didn't end the war...that didn't happen till April of 1865...

By contrast, the Allies sent communication, carpet bombed leaflets and announced their target, giving the Japanese a date and time certain to surrender or face annihilation.

Weren't you the guy shreiking about conflation just a few days ago?

Holy False Moral Equivalencies, Batman! AGAIN

Seriously, what the **** IS wrong with you?? How can one guy be so ****ing WRONG at every ****ing juncture???
how many people died burning atlanta? Were the poor women and children forced to stay in in their homes while sherman burned it?

Holy moral false equiliblalablablablabla.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Oddly enough, I'm 100% "ND" Norwegian and the vast majority of my ancestors fled Norway because of this threat....many of which went on to serve in the US military in WWI, WWII, and the Korean War. This was fairly common and caused a large influx of Scandinavian immigration in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

That's his safe place. He's the living embodiment of Godwin's Law.

Every single person on my family tree from the late 19th century on was in North America.

[FormerPokeCenter]

how many people died burning atlanta? Were the poor women and children forced to stay in in their homes while sherman burned it?

Holy moral false equiliblalablablablabla.

If it was just one, that was one too many...

Don't forget, Fire was the first Weapon of Mass Destruction....And even had it's own fall-out of sorts...

"Look to the South and you who went with us through that land can best say if they have not been fearfully punished. Mourning is in every household, desolation written in broad characters across the whole face of their country, cities in ashes and fields laid waste, their commerce gone, their system of labor annihilated and destroyed. Ruin and poverty and distress everywhere, and now pestilence adding to the very cap sheaf of their stack of misery…"

Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman

[frozennorth]

If it was just one, that was one too many...

Don't forget, Fire was the first Weapon of Mass Destruction....And even had it's own fall-out of sorts...

"Look to the South and you who went with us through that land can best say if they have not been fearfully punished. Mourning is in every household, desolation written in broad characters across the whole face of their country, cities in ashes and fields laid waste, their commerce gone, their system of labor annihilated and destroyed. Ruin and poverty and distress everywhere, and now pestilence adding to the very cap sheaf of their stack of misery…"

Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman

obfusticate more, quick before anyone else notices your entire argument (post 17) was bull****.

[Grizalltheway]

If it was just one, that was one too many...

Don't forget, Fire was the first Weapon of Mass Destruction....And even had it's own fall-out of sorts...

"Look to the South and you who went with us through that land can best say if they have not been fearfully punished. Mourning is in every household, desolation written in broad characters across the whole face of their country, cities in ashes and fields laid waste, their commerce gone, their system of labor annihilated and destroyed. Ruin and poverty and distress everywhere, and now pestilence adding to the very cap sheaf of their stack of misery…"

Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman

So what are your thoughts on our fire bombing of Japanese and German cities??

[citdog]

how many people died burning atlanta? Were the poor women and children forced to stay in in their homes while sherman burned it?

Holy moral false equiliblalablablablabla.


If you hate us so LET US GO!

ANOTHER example of nazi like behavior by troops of the tyrant lincoln.


You all have probably heard of the Trail of Tears, when the Cherokee Indians were sent from North Carolina and Georgia to Oklahoma by force in the 1800's.
But very few people know the story of another forced exile that took place during the Civil War (http://www.examiner.com/topic/civil-war) in Roswell, Georgia .
In 1864, at least 400 and possibly as many as 700 mill workers, nearly all women, black and white and their children, were arrested as traitors and shipped North by force, and very few of them ever made their way back home.
It was July, and the Atlanta Campaign was in full swing, General Sherman burning and slashing his way to Atlanta and his March to the Sea. Seeking a way to cross the Chattahoochee, General Kenner Garrard began his twelve-day occupation of Roswell, which was completely undefended.


http://www.examiner.com/article/roswell-ga-the-civil-war-exile-of-the-roswell-mill-women

[citdog]

That's his safe place. He's the living embodiment of Godwin's Law.

Every single person on my family tree from the late 19th century on was in North America.

Ellis Island scum

[citdog]

Oddly enough, I'm 100% "ND" Norwegian and the vast majority of my ancestors fled Norway because of this threat....many of which went on to serve in the US military in WWI, WWII, and the Korean War. This was fairly common and caused a large influx of Scandinavian immigration in the late 1800s and early 1900s.


so the nazi beasts caused norweigans to leave at least 100 years before they came to power? your people WILLINGLY collaborated with the nazis.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Ellis Island scum

Via Canada. Keep trying dip****.

For someone with such a persecution complex, you're a real asshole.

[citdog]

Via Canada. Keep trying dip****.

For someone with such a persecution complex, you're a real asshole.

illegal immigrants

[citdog]

So what are your thoughts on our fire bombing of Japanese and German cities??


you really are dense aren't you? Wars WERE NOT fought against noncombatants in the 19th Century. The rest of the world, through their observers with the armies, were APPALLED at the conduct of the federal troops. They conducted themselves as an ARMED MOB and NOT an army.

[citdog]

From the Roswell Mills War Crime in the yankees OWN WORDS.

"It is a very fine sight we don't often see in the army. The employees were all women and they were really good looking." and "We always felt that we had a perfect right to appropriate to our own use anything we needed for our comfort and convenience." One soldier confided to his diary, "My delirium took the form of making love to the women." These conditions hurled at the Confederate soldier's sisters, wives, nieces and mothers whom they had left behind at home. At no time did they conceive of such a dastardly, uncivilized thing happening under the protection of a General Officer's orders.

Upon this news reaching the North, a New York newspaper wrote: "It is hardly conceivable that an officer bearing a United States commission of Major General should have so far forgotten the commonest dictates of decency and humanity...as to drive four hundred penniless girls hundreds of miles away from their homes and friends to seek their livelihood amid strange and hostile people. We repeat our earnest hope that further information may redeem the name of General Sherman and our own from this frightful disgrace."

HEROIC CONDUCT INDEED.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

From the Roswell Mills War Crime in the yankees OWN WORDS.

"It is a very fine sight we don't often see in the army. The employees were all women and they were really good looking." and "We always felt that we had a perfect right to appropriate to our own use anything we needed for our comfort and convenience." One soldier confided to his diary, "My delirium took the form of making love to the women." These conditions hurled at the Confederate soldier's sisters, wives, nieces and mothers whom they had left behind at home. At no time did they conceive of such a dastardly, uncivilized thing happening under the protection of a General Officer's orders.

Upon this news reaching the North, a New York newspaper wrote: "It is hardly conceivable that an officer bearing a United States commission of Major General should have so far forgotten the commonest dictates of decency and humanity...as to drive four hundred penniless girls hundreds of miles away from their homes and friends to seek their livelihood amid strange and hostile people. We repeat our earnest hope that further information may redeem the name of General Sherman and our own from this frightful disgrace."

HEROIC CONDUCT INDEED.

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Hope also recalled the name of the city’s first soccer team, the Atlanta Chiefs, but said modern sensitivities to Native American names makes that a no-go.One name suggested by several marketers is the Atlanta Phoenix, which represents both a bird and Atlanta’s from-the-ashes legacy. However, there’s already a little-known women’s professional football team with that name.
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Jo Ann Herold (http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/adview?ai=BV4dru6haU9X3O4yclQeghYDID5myoKEFAAAAEAE gADgAWKn_hLCRAWDJrpeM0KTkD4IBF2NhLXB1Yi05NzM2MDkyN jA0Njc3NTE2sgETd3d3LmJpempvdXJuYWxzLmNvbboBCWdmcF9 pbWFnZcgBCdoBnAFodHRwOi8vd3d3LmJpempvdXJuYWxzLmNvb S9hdGxhbnRhL3ByaW50LWVkaXRpb24vMjAxNC8wNC8yNS9uYW1 lLWdhbWUtbWFya2V0ZXJzLWtpY2stYXJvdW5kLW1scy1pZGVhc y5odG1sP2FuYT1zbV9hdGxfdWNwMzYmYj0xMzk4MzU4MzU5JTV FMTQzNjM0MjEmcGFnZT1hbGyYAq7QAcACAuACAOoCHTQ2MzUvY npqLmF0bGFudGEvYXJ0aWNsZV9wYWdl-AKD0h6QA-ADmAPgA6gDAeAEAZIFCwgHEAEYASChot4YoAYg&sigh=fG9Us3btOio&adurl=http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad/1482981/InterstitialTemplate2014_chase.html%3Ft%3D10%26cT% 3Dhttp%253A//bizjournals.com%26l%3Dhttp%253A//www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/search/results%253Fq%253DJo%252520Ann%252520Herold), chief marketing officer of flooring company Interface Inc., offered another fire-themed name, the Atlanta Blaze.


FIFY

[PaladinFan]

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As a Georgian, I hate all of those except those avian-themed.

I know Atlanta pretty well. A large portion of the city are not native Georgians. Many are transplants, and have no connection cultural or otherwise to Atlanta's history. I am not 100% certain of anything, but I am quite sure there will not be a Hispanic themed team name or one that invokes the civil rights era.

More likely, the team will go with something non-offensive that does not hearken tumultuous portions of the past. In fact, this team (like the Braves) are going to be the only show in town for hundreds of miles in any direction, so there's some incentive to appealing to a larger southern audience and not just Atlanta.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

As a Georgian, I hate all of those except those avian-themed.

I know Atlanta pretty well. A large portion of the city are not native Georgians. Many are transplants, and have no connection cultural or otherwise to Atlanta's history. I am not 100% certain of anything, but I am quite sure there will not be a Hispanic themed team name or one that invokes the civil rights era.

More likely, the team will go with something non-offensive that does not hearken tumultuous portions of the past. In fact, this team (like the Braves) are going to be the only show in town for hundreds of miles in any direction, so there's some incentive to appealing to a larger southern audience and not just Atlanta.

Those marketing geniuses can't be native Atlantans, can they?

[OL FU]

Those marketing geniuses can't be native Atlantans, can they?

Maybe they will bring back the Atlanta Crackers


Or in a tribute to Atlanta's participation in the Negro Leagues, the Atlanta Black Crackersxdontknowx

[PaladinFan]

Those marketing geniuses can't be native Atlantans, can they?

My initial impression was "absolutely not." I imagine the author of the piece is a native as he actually knew that the Thrasher is a bird (you'd be surprised how many Atlantans do not know the daggum state bird).

Some of those suggestions were asinine.

[Apphole]

He's absolutely a local hero in Columbus.

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Maybe Ohio should put a picture of him on their flag or something, to celebrate history or something.

Just like Bin Laden is a hero to some in Afghanistan.

[walliver]

I always knew that Sherman was the devil's seed, but now to find out he is a soccer fan - that is beyond the pale. Such unspeakable evil.