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unknown-swac
October 14th, 2006, 09:27 PM
Did anybody see this? I expect some scholarships to be taken over it.

AppGuy04
October 14th, 2006, 09:29 PM
What happened? Why did they fight?

unknown-swac
October 14th, 2006, 09:31 PM
I dont know...after Miami kicked an extra point an all out street brawl broke out. I mean punches, kicks, body slams...and at the end one of Miami's players ran off the bench with his helmet in his hand and smashed one of FIU players head in with his helmet off. Watch ESPN they're breaking in randomly showing it.

AppGuy04
October 14th, 2006, 09:42 PM
Wow, just saw it

Just shows what people thought about Miami all along, bunch of thugs

ISUMatt
October 14th, 2006, 09:55 PM
I blame QB Coach and Ex-ILS coach Todd Berry :)

AppGuy04
October 14th, 2006, 10:02 PM
I'm guessing both teams will be short a few players, if not alot for the rest of the season

FUwolfpacker
October 14th, 2006, 10:05 PM
I saw one image where 5 UM players were stomping on a FIU guy's knee. Absolutely pathetic display by both teams.

unknown-swac
October 14th, 2006, 10:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/ivp/index?id=2625994

griz37
October 14th, 2006, 10:30 PM
Wow Miami isn't playing like the old days, but they sure have the thug thing going. Larry Coker should start sending out his resume now.

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 10:31 PM
Good to see former Clinton Cabinet member Donna Shalala is cleaning up at Miami.

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 12:12 AM
Just saw some highlights on ESPN. After the fight the Miami players were jumping up & down w/their helmets in the air like they had just won the Super Bowl. :pumpuke:

FUwolfpacker
October 15th, 2006, 12:15 AM
The ESPN guys said the FIU guy started it, but it looked to me that the FIU got his hands high on a UM guy trying to get by him on the XP, and the Miami player threw the first punch. Guess it doesn't really matter though. Both teams played a part in it. Looked like the FIU guys got the worst of the fight though. UM guys were swinging helmets, stopping on knees, body slamming guys. Geez, that was awful.

blackfordpu
October 15th, 2006, 12:17 AM
The NCAA needs to act swiftly and harshly on these two teams. It probably won't happen but suspending both teams for the season and two years probabtion sounds about right.

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 12:19 AM
At the end of the USC game, the ABC announcers were saying the guys involved would be suspended for 1 game

If thats the case, the NCAA has no balls

BDK@YSU
October 15th, 2006, 12:22 AM
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/college/img9728902.jpg

And someone please tell me what #3 on the right here is going to do? Hobble someone to death? We all know about how good those one-legged guys are in an butt-kicking contest!

Coastal89
October 15th, 2006, 12:34 AM
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/college/img9728902.jpg

And someone please tell me what #3 on the right here is going to do? Hobble someone to death? We all know about how good those one-legged guys are in an butt-kicking contest!
The story I read said someone was swinging his crutches.

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 12:37 AM
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/college/img9728902.jpg

And someone please tell me what #3 on the right here is going to do? Hobble someone to death? We all know about how good those one-legged guys are in an butt-kicking contest!

:hurray: That was great!

unknown-swac
October 15th, 2006, 12:51 AM
Yea thats a pure shame. I dont think it'll be fair to Coker but he is going to take a LOT of heat for this one from the Miami alumni already calling for his head. The way things are going he may not make it through the season.

FUwolfpacker
October 15th, 2006, 12:57 AM
The ACC and whatever conference FIU is in (are they in a conference?), have the option to review the tape and lay down their own penalties. If the NCAA were to only give one game, I hope the conferences would come in and up the suspensions to at least a few more games.

I heard the same thing about the guy with the crutches. Apparently he was swinging them at people. I know it's awful, but I laugh when I think about some UM guy grabbing that guy's crutches after he gets hit with one, and then turning around and beating the guy with his own crutch. I know, I have sick sense of humor: smh : . When you think about it in context with the whole fiasco though, it's kinda funny right?:o

Lionsrking
October 15th, 2006, 03:49 AM
At the end of the USC game, the ABC announcers were saying the guys involved would be suspended for 1 game

If thats the case, the NCAA has no balls


A one game suspension is the least of their problems. Some of those players I saw are probably subject to criminal assault charges, especially the guy who used his helmet as a weapon. They would never play college football again if I were in charge.

bobcatfan06
October 15th, 2006, 04:08 AM
I hate Miami. Worthless thugs. I can understand a fight but assaulting people is just crazy. I wish Miami would get the death penalty like SMU did. That would be great.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:06 AM
The I-A announcers and I-A student-athlete behavior is despicable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ

dungeonjoe
October 15th, 2006, 05:53 AM
listening to the announcers in the clip Ralph linked, one of the announcers seems to be inciting (not that anyone was listening). The broadcast company ought to review that as well.

This whole incident is disgusting.

Pards Rule
October 15th, 2006, 08:35 AM
That announcer LaMar Thomas should not have a job as of Monday.

LeopardFan04
October 15th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Really terrible...I'm sure the suspensions/penalties given will be far too light...and I agree that criminal charges could/should be persued against at least several of the players...watching the replay again, there were at least a handful of players on both teams that stayed on the sideline...and I'm so sick of Miami doing that raise the helmet in the air crap...yeah, congrats guys you just kicked and swung your helmets to hurt people...classy, classy bunch...

Cocky
October 15th, 2006, 11:12 AM
#19 for Miami of Florida is a chicken ****.

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 11:24 AM
You can definitely tell that announcer has an allegiance to Miami. He should definitely be fird. I mean, who the hell talks like that on a job. Telling them to meet outside in the parking lot? Come ON!

Golden Eagle
October 15th, 2006, 11:30 AM
You can definitely tell that announcer has an allegiance to Miami. He should definitely be fird. I mean, who the hell talks like that on a job. Telling them to meet outside in the parking lot? Come ON!

He's probably a former player, that's what the coaches always tell them to do. If you have a problem, you don't take it out on the field where you can get penalized, you wait until after the game.

TxSt02
October 15th, 2006, 12:01 PM
stay classy san diego...

a bunch of jive turkeys if you ask me...

CCUCheer
October 15th, 2006, 12:11 PM
I can't believe that riot... I saw it on ESPN last night. I remember when something like that happened between USC and Clemson, very rediculous and unclassy. :nonono2: Do any of you guys know if something like this has ever happened in I-AA???? :confused: xoxo

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 12:20 PM
He's probably a former player, that's what the coaches always tell them to do. If you have a problem, you don't take it out on the field where you can get penalized, you wait until after the game.

which is why they have the rep that they havexidiotx

Pards Rule
October 15th, 2006, 12:34 PM
Yeah as I understand it LaMar is a former UMiami player. After he's fired, he will have plenty of time to go rumble with the boys at the OB...

Cocky
October 15th, 2006, 12:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SkoT0T4vWk

This is Thomas' famous play.

Coastal89
October 15th, 2006, 12:44 PM
Yea, Lamars got alot of class. He was arrested a few years back for bouncing his pregnant wifes head off the shower wall.

Franks Tanks
October 15th, 2006, 12:58 PM
Yea, Lamars got alot of class. He was arrested a few years back for bouncing his pregnant wifes head off the shower wall.


Why would a school hire such a degenerate to call their games...oh right Its Miami. This is a microcosm of everything wrong with bigtime college football and the disgusting "thug" attitude that permiates many parts of society. Incredibly disgusting display, those kicking and swinging helmets dont deserve to play NCAA football again period.

PantherRob82
October 15th, 2006, 01:11 PM
wtf

Coastal89
October 15th, 2006, 01:25 PM
wtf
She must have come into his house and shot her mouth off.:nod: :eyebrow:

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 01:44 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Am8gkAop1odHML1XVg5eFNYcvrYF?slug=ap-miami-brawlsuspensions&prov=ap&type=lgns

CORAL GABLES, Fla. (AP) -- At least eight Miami players will be suspended for their role in a sideline-clearing brawl against Florida International, the latest on-field incident to plague the Hurricanes' program.

The fight -- "disgraceful," Miami coach Larry Coker said -- came during Miami's 35-0 win Saturday night over FIU, which is based 9 miles from the Hurricanes' campus in Coral Gables.

Pards Rule
October 15th, 2006, 02:10 PM
And fire LaMar!!

walliver
October 15th, 2006, 03:03 PM
I can't believe that riot... I saw it on ESPN last night. I remember when something like that happened between USC and Clemson, very rediculous and unclassy. :nonono2: Do any of you guys know if something like this has ever happened in I-AA???? :confused: xoxo

Unfortunately it has. There was the famous sledge-hammer incident in 2002 between WKU and WIU.

link here (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/moss_archive/3rdandlong_121102.htm)

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 03:53 PM
The I-A announcers and I-A student-athlete behavior is despicable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ

I know you have an agenda, but blatantly bringing I-A into this doesn't do anything for me, and I would guess 95 percent of the members here. It doesn't make this incident any more or any less despicable to classify it as "I-A".

*****
October 15th, 2006, 04:23 PM
I know you have an agenda, but blatantly bringing I-A into this doesn't do anything for me, and I would guess 95 percent of the members here. It doesn't make this incident any more or any less despicable to classify it as "I-A".You can guess all you want but if you listen to the game the announcers were I-A with all sorts of nomenclature gaffes and certain teams that are I-A are certainly more despicable than any others. Yes, that's why I wrote I-A. The incident was sickening no matter what level.

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 04:23 PM
I know you have an agenda, but blatantly bringing I-A into this doesn't do anything for me, and I would guess 95 percent of the members here. It doesn't make this incident any more or any less despicable to classify it as "I-A".

agreed, as noted on the previous page, it has happened in I-AA as well

*****
October 15th, 2006, 04:26 PM
agreed, as noted on the previous page, it has happened in I-AA as wellNot nearly as often and not with this intensity. Seems some don't want it known this was a I-A incident.

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 04:28 PM
Not nearly as often and not with this intensity. Seems some don't want it known this was a I-A incident.

It was a college football incident

This reflects on Miami and Florida International, not I-A football, come on Ralph

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:18 PM
... This reflects on Miami and Florida International, not I-A football, come on RalphCome on AG04! It is WAAAAAYYYYYY more likely to happen in I-A and at Miami and Florida International (though FIU is pretty new I-A). :read:

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Come on AG04! It is WAAAAAYYYYYY more likely to happen in I-A and at Miami and Florida International (though FIU is pretty new I-A). :read:

I just think its more of a reflection of Miami, not I-A

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 05:26 PM
I just think its more of a reflection of Miami, not I-A

Agreed. I rarely understand the hostility shown here towards I-A football.

AppGuy04
October 15th, 2006, 05:28 PM
Read the article Ralph, this is the 3rd time in the last 7 games that Miami has had an incident, thats strictly on Miami, no more, no less

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:28 PM
I just think its more of a reflection of Miami, not I-AIf I-A hogs the spotlight of college football, and Miami is one of their media darlings, I-A has to live with the consequences. Remember when the App St goalposts ended up in the GaSU bus? I-AA had to live with it. Same for the brawl at FAMU and in the playoffs at WIU. Neither compare with what I-A has done to college football in these type of situations.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:29 PM
Agreed. I rarely understand the hostility shown here towards I-A football.People who wish to have a purer form of D-I college football look at I-A with disgust. It is well earned. Is that hard to understand?

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 05:29 PM
Come on AG04! It is WAAAAAYYYYYY more likely to happen in I-A and at Miami and Florida International (though FIU is pretty new I-A). :read:

Why is it WAAAAAYYYYYY more likely to happen in I-A than I-AA, DII, DIII or NAIA football? There are coaches at ALL levels of football who do not have control of their team.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:33 PM
Why is it WAAAAAYYYYYY more likely to happen in I-A than I-AA, DII, DIII or NAIA football? There are coaches at ALL levels of football who do not have control of their team.Watch this (gawd the former Miami player as announcer is deplorable):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ

It had nothing to do with coaches. It is mayhem among student-athletes. Now would you say that I-A or I-AA has more problems with student-athletes?

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 05:37 PM
Watch this (gawd the former Miami player as announcer is deplorable):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JWeE9KqZjQ

It had nothing to do with coaches. It is mayhem among student-athletes. Now would you say that I-A or I-AA has more problems with student-athletes?

I would say they are probably equal. Obviously the I-A incidents are going to be publicized more by the media. Look at Northern Colorado. Is there a football team at any level of play who has had as many incidents as they have this year?

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 05:38 PM
People who wish to have a purer form of D-I college football look at I-A with disgust. It is well earned. Is that hard to understand?

I don't think it's necessary to look at I-A with disgust. Further, I don't think it's a I-A problem that I-A has to live with. It's a Miami problem (and to a lesser extent, this time, an FIU problem) that they have to live with.

Lets face it, a lot of people on here watch I-A games without a hint of disgust. To say you're disgusted by the "I-A student-athletes and I-A announcers" is a cheap shot. If this happened in the Appalachian State-Wofford game and national commentators made it a I-AA issue, you'd be out in front villifying those who said it.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:41 PM
I would say they are probably equal...Bull... just read the NCAA Infractions Committee logs. If you want to look at conference disciplinary actions and police reports that might reveal as well.

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 05:44 PM
Bull... just read the NCAA Infractions Committee logs. If you want to look at conference disciplinary actions and police reports that might reveal as well.

If you have a link I will check it out.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:45 PM
I don't think it's necessary to look at I-A with disgust. Further, I don't think it's a I-A problem that I-A has to live with. It's a Miami problem (and to a lesser extent, this time, an FIU problem) that they have to live with. Lets face it, a lot of people on here watch I-A games without a hint of disgust. To say you're disgusted by the "I-A student-athletes and I-A announcers" is a cheap shot. If this happened in the Appalachian State-Wofford game and national commentators made it a I-AA issue, you'd be out in front villifying those who said it.Miami (and FIU) is a member of I-A so it is a I-A image problem. It does not matter to me who follows I-A but folks should know that I-A has many more major problems within its ranks than I-AA does.

If you're not disgusted by the "I-A student-athletes and I-A announcers" in this incident, that is a cheap shot at purer college football in D-I.

BTW, I resent that you think I would condone those actions in a I-AA game. That's plain wrong. :nonono2: :nonono2:

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:46 PM
If you have a link I will check it out.www.google.com

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 05:46 PM
www.google.com

Wow thanks Ralph. I probably would have been too stupid to figure that one out myself. :mad:

*****
October 15th, 2006, 05:48 PM
Wow thanks Ralph. I probably would have been too stupid to figure that one out myself. :mad:I gave you the search words. My room service is not always 24/7... sorry man.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 05:51 PM
Miami is a member of I-A so it is a I-A image problem. It does not matter to me who follows I-A but folks should know that I-A has many more major problems within its ranks than I-AA does.

If you're not disgusted by the "I-A student-athletes and I-A announcers" in this incident, that is a cheap shot at purer college football in D-I.

I think I made it clear before that I'm disgusted by the actions of the student-athletes and the announcers . . but I don't care what level they compete at. You give the impression that you're reveling in the fact that it happened to a I-A school. Everybody else is disappointed that it happened at all.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 05:54 PM
BTW, I resent that you think I would condone those actions in a I-AA game. That's plain wrong. :nonono2: :nonono2:

I didn't say you would condone it :read:

I said you would villify those who said it was a I-AA problem, instead of, in this example, an Appalachian State-Wofford problem . . as you've done with I-A andd Miami-FIU.

pot, meet black kettle

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 05:55 PM
https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBi.MajorInfPackage.MI_Search_Input?p_Cmd=Go_Sea rch

From 1986 to 2006 I-A football had 152 major infraction cases & I-AA had 59.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 05:58 PM
https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBi.MajorInfPackage.MI_Search_Input?p_Cmd=Go_Sea rch

From 1986 to 2006 I-A football had 152 major infraction cases & I-AA had 59.

bear in mind, those are infraction cases . . not on or off the field incidences involving student-athletes.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 06:00 PM
I didn't say you would condone it :read:
I said you would villify those who said it was a I-AA problem, instead of, in this example, an Appalachian State-Wofford problem . . as you've done with I-A andd Miami-FIU.
pot, meet black kettleI-A/I-AA meet responsibility. I am sad that you think I would react differently if it were a I-AA problem... which it is NOT.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 06:01 PM
bear in mind, those are infraction cases . . not on or off the field incidences involving student-athletes.What do you mean by that? Are you saying those infractions do not involve that actions of the programs?

griz37
October 15th, 2006, 06:06 PM
What do you mean by that? Are you saying those infractions do not involve that actions of the programs?

Those are actions by the institution not the players on the field. I still argue that if you look at players & coaches involved in on/off field incidents the numbers would be comparable between I-A & I-AA.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 06:08 PM
I thought this situation was exemplary of the problems at I-A. Programs out of control. It is also repugnant in other ways too which I have said.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 06:08 PM
What do you mean by that? Are you saying those infractions do not involve that actions of the programs?

They do involve the actions of the programs - thus infraction cases. They do not involve on-field fights (like Miami-FIU) or off-field fights (like the bar fight the BC kicker was in last week). They do involve recruiting violations and improper benefits to student-athletes (like Rhett Bomar).

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 06:11 PM
I-A/I-AA meet responsibility. I am sad that you think I would react differently if it were a I-AA problem... which it is NOT.

IF it were to happen in a I-AA game, AND commentators labeled this a I-AA problem, THEN you would villify those who labled it a I-AA problem . . just as you made this a I-A problem.

It is NOT a I-A problem. I-A is not responsible for the actions of athletes at individual institutions, just as I-AA is not responsible for the actions of athletes at its institutions.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 06:22 PM
IF it were to happen in a I-AA game, AND commentators labeled this a I-AA problem, THEN you would villify those who labled it a I-AA problem . . just as you made this a I-A problem. It is NOT a I-A problem. I-A is not responsible for the actions of athletes at individual institutions, just as I-AA is not responsible for the actions of athletes at its institutions.Wrong. If you'd care to provide an explanation of why you included me in your smack I would appreciate it.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Wrong. If you'd care to provide an explanation of why you included me in your smack I would appreciate it.

I think you have a history of 20,000 posts that helps explain why I think you would be more than outraged if an on-field incident between two I-AA teams was made into a broader issue involving the entire classification.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 06:35 PM
I think you have a history of 20,000 posts that helps explain why I think you would be more than outraged if an on-field incident between two I-AA teams was made into a broader issue involving the entire classification.Bull. If you'd care to provide an explanation of why you included me in your smack I would appreciate it. I resent this character assassination without explanation. We are talking about this incident. No matter if it were I-AA or I-A I would not feel differently. That is entirely consistent with me.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 06:38 PM
Bull. If you'd care to provide an explanation of why you included me in your smack I would appreciate it. I resent this character assasination without explanation.

Ok, I guess you would let national media blame I-AA for a similar on-field incident without providing a response.

ngineer
October 15th, 2006, 06:55 PM
It was a college football incident

This reflects on Miami and Florida International, not I-A football, come on Ralph

I agree--and it reflects the quality of the student being recruited. Recruit thugs and this is what you get. Miami has had the rep for years. FIU is getting one. I recall they got hit with some major recruiting violations a couple years ago. You reap what you sow....

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Bull. If you'd care to provide an explanation of why you included me in your smack I would appreciate it. I resent this character assassination without explanation. We are talking about this incident. No matter if it were I-AA or I-A I would not feel differently. That is entirely consistent with me.

all I would like to know is . . if it were I-AA and national media singled out I-AA for the actions of two teams, would you defend the classification.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 08:32 PM
Sorry, NCAA members are not an island. When infractions are incurred, they are tabulated by classification as well. So if you are I-AA or I-A and you do something wrong then the classification rightfully takes a hit.
At least it appears that you are dropping your smack at me.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Sorry, NCAA members are not an island. When infractions are incurred, they are tabulated by classification as well. So if you are I-AA or I-A and you do something wrong then the classification rightfully takes a hit.
At least it appears that you are dropping your smack at me.

I didn't think I was smacking you . . I thought we were having a discussion. So if I read that correctly, if a similar incident would arise in a I-AA game, a similar response to yours from the national media would be acceptable. That's all I wanted to clear up, because from reading your posts over the past year, I thought there was an inconsistency.

*****
October 15th, 2006, 08:45 PM
I didn't think I was smacking you . . I thought we were having a discussion. So if I read that correctly, if a similar incident would arise in a I-AA game, a similar response to yours from the national media would be acceptable. That's all I wanted to clear up, because from reading your posts over the past year, I thought there was an inconsistency.Yep, I would say it's despicable for I-AA student-athletes to do that, no matter the school. You said I would be hypocritical.

cosmo here
October 15th, 2006, 08:50 PM
Yep, I would say it's despicable for I-AA student-athletes to do that, no matter the school. You said I would be hypocritical.

I think we all agree that would be despicable . . where I (maybe wrongly) presumed an inconsistency is that you would respond defensively if it was assigned to I-AA as a whole instead of the teams in particular, as you did with the "I-A student-athletes".

bobcatfan06
October 16th, 2006, 03:17 AM
Oh get over Ralph. It's almost like you have an inferiority complex to I-A. You do alot of good things for I-AA and it is appreciated but constantly bashing I-A does not help I-AA become any more recognizable.

AppGuy04
October 16th, 2006, 09:13 AM
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9730918

CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- After reviewing a sideline-clearing brawl between players from Miami and Florida International, officials from both schools and their conferences on Sunday announced the suspension of 31 players -- 13 from the Hurricanes, and 18 from FIU.

Each suspended player must sit out his team's next game for taking part in the ugly melee that marred the teams' Saturday matchup. Miami plays at Duke on Saturday, FIU plays at Alabama Oct. 28.

More sanctions are still possible, officials from both schools said Sunday night.

If these players only get suspended for one game, this is a total crock. I hope the NCAA takes a longer look at this.

Pards Rule
October 16th, 2006, 09:27 AM
Yank them for the rest of the season...And did that Lamar guy get fired yet?

AppGuy04
October 16th, 2006, 09:32 AM
Yank them for the rest of the season...And did that Lamar guy get fired yet?

No word on the announcer yet

PaladinFan
October 16th, 2006, 09:53 AM
How sweet would it be if Duke won?

AppGuy04
October 16th, 2006, 09:54 AM
How sweet would it be if Duke won?

There will be alot of Duke fans this weekend IMO

walliver
October 16th, 2006, 11:07 AM
Miami plays at Duke on Saturday, FIU plays at Alabama Oct. 28.

In other words, neither team will suffer. Miami will still whoop up on Duke and FIU was going to get stomped by Alabama anyway.

Unfortunately, this hoodlum thing is becoming a problem all the way from high school through the NFL. High schools are afraid to expel problem students who are good football players, many (definitely not all) college coaches are under pressure to win at all costs, and the NFL doesn't care as long as they can sell tickets and pull in high ratings (which a$$holes like TO are good at doing).

Pards Rule
October 16th, 2006, 11:13 AM
Agreed Walliver...and where does it stop? Hell, these guy will take this one game suspension (particularly in a no contest game vs. Duke where they know they aren't sacrificing a win) as a badge of honor...This gangsta crap has been around for what 15 years?!?! When are we going to tire of it? Meanwhile, kids get shot on streetcorners as we glorify the gangsta culture.

dbackjon
October 16th, 2006, 11:44 AM
In other words, neither team will suffer. Miami will still whoop up on Duke and FIU was going to get stomped by Alabama anyway.

Unfortunately, this hoodlum thing is becoming a problem all the way from high school through the NFL. High schools are afraid to expel problem students who are good football players, many (definitely not all) college coaches are under pressure to win at all costs, and the NFL doesn't care as long as they can sell tickets and pull in high ratings (which a$$holes like TO are good at doing).

Agreed - suspending them for the Duke game is a joke. Same with FIU/Alabama - neither will change the outcome. There should be 3 game suspensions at least.

*****
October 16th, 2006, 11:52 AM
Oh get over Ralph. It's almost like you have an inferiority complex to I-A. You do alot of good things for I-AA and it is appreciated but constantly bashing I-A does not help I-AA become any more recognizable.Constantly bash I-A? Inferiority complex? : smh : :nonono2: : smh : Did your feelings get hurt that this happened in a I-A game? :rolleyes:

goasu984Life
October 16th, 2006, 04:54 PM
Evidently, Coker made it through the Miami trustee meeting today without getting fired.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2628132

Pards Rule
October 16th, 2006, 04:55 PM
What about LaMar?

ASU Kep
October 16th, 2006, 04:57 PM
As much as I hate Duke, I'd love to see them pull a miracle this Saturday. Miami football has always been the most disgusting team in all of sports. Ohio State, FSU, VT, and others sometime sneak up and steal the headlines, but Miami is clearly the place to be if your a stupid thug.

My dad ('83 Penn State) still loves telling stories about their NC game with them. Penn State showed up in suits, Miami's "soldiers" showed up in combat fatigues. It's safe to say I've hated "the U" since birth. :)

BTW, I don't think this is a I-A problem, though it is more likely to happen there just because of the people they have to recruit to stay competitive. These things don't happen too often at programs like Notre Dame, Penn State, etc.

Cocky
October 16th, 2006, 06:01 PM
What about LaMar?

FOX says he is a goner.

UNH_Alum_In_CT
October 16th, 2006, 06:31 PM
UConn just threw five kids off the football team because they broke team rules the night before the game. They went outside the team hotel in Tampa which apparently broke a team rule and bought two six packs of beer. One admitted to buying it, one was outside the hotel making a phone call then walked back with the other four unaware of the beer. An assistant coach saw them, questioned what was in the bag, got a lie for a response. The beer remained unopened. The entire team had signed a pre-season pact not to drink during the season.

These kids were thrown off the team and the Miami and FIU players get a one game suspension! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: That's not even a slap on the wrist!!!! xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx xidiotx

Kill'em
October 16th, 2006, 08:48 PM
The NFL Network reported Lamar has been terminated and the idiot who swung his helmet has been suspended indefinitely. I think there will be more action taken.

I know Miami deserves much of the blame. They have had a reputation of being a classless squad since the Jimmy Johnson years. Remember the bowl game where the Miami players showed up if fatigues and refused to eat with their opponents because they didn't want to "eat with the enemy." Reports are the brawl, building all game was actually started by FIU. It was said many FIU players wanted to go to Miami and were rejected and this had something to do with the fight.

I hope there will be more penalties for this. It doesn't matter what classification this is, it is a black eye on college athletics... period! If Georgia Southern ever got into a brawl like this, I might leave and not come back. Excuse me, I would leave!

slycat
October 16th, 2006, 09:46 PM
it seems FIU got the message and dismissed two players. one for tackling and punching the kicker and one for kicking a player in the helment. they also suspended all players involved indefinitly.

im sorry but the ACC and miami need to step up the punishments against their players. one player gets suspended indefinitly. come on they. the guy that swung the helment and the guy that stomped on a player should be dismissed.

FIU hasnt won a game this year but they still dealt the punishment. seems miami should do the same, who cares if it wrecks their season. its deserved.

D1B
October 16th, 2006, 10:39 PM
Constantly bash I-A? Inferiority complex? : smh : :nonono2: : smh : Did your feelings get hurt that this happened in a I-A game? :rolleyes:

1aa games seldom make headlines. 2 albany players arrested for rape. UNC fullback arrested for assault. On or off the field, don't matter where you go to school, there are always issues.

Kill'em
October 16th, 2006, 11:09 PM
it seems FIU got the message and dismissed two players. one for tackling and punching the kicker and one for kicking a player in the helment. they also suspended all players involved indefinitly.

im sorry but the ACC and miami need to step up the punishments against their players. one player gets suspended indefinitly. come on they. the guy that swung the helment and the guy that stomped on a player should be dismissed.

FIU hasnt won a game this year but they still dealt the punishment. seems miami should do the same, who cares if it wrecks their season. its deserved.
I agree the ACC and "The U" should take harsher action. Unfortunately, FIU has nothing left to play for this season and Miami still can get a bowl bid. By the way, the "U" must stand for "ugly."

TxSt02
October 16th, 2006, 11:32 PM
Lamar Wright = ghetto

blackfordpu
October 17th, 2006, 08:32 AM
The NFL Network reported Lamar has been terminated and the idiot who swung his helmet has been suspended indefinitely. I think there will be more action taken.

I know Miami deserves much of the blame. They have had a reputation of being a classless squad since the Jimmy Johnson years. Remember the bowl game where the Miami players showed up if fatigues and refused to eat with their opponents because they didn't want to "eat with the enemy." Reports are the brawl, building all game was actually started by FIU. It was said many FIU players wanted to go to Miami and were rejected and this had something to do with the fight.

I hope there will be more penalties for this. It doesn't matter what classification this is, it is a black eye on college athletics... period! If Georgia Southern ever got into a brawl like this, I might leave and not come back. Excuse me, I would leave!

Here's a link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2628493

AppGuy04
October 17th, 2006, 08:37 AM
Here's a link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2628493

the Michael Irvin video is ridiculous, he is practically defending what they did

"They don't understand what they are doing at 18 or 19"

What a crock of ****

D1B
October 17th, 2006, 08:51 AM
Michael Irvin = Ghetto:nod:

Pards Rule
October 17th, 2006, 09:09 AM
What about the dude who body slammed the other dude - seen clearly toward the end of the melee?

Cocky
October 17th, 2006, 10:04 AM
Congrats to FIU for taking a real stand.

Miami-Florida has a joke of a President and BOT. I'm glad I don't have a degree from this university. I wouldn't hire a alum from Miami-Florida for anything.

Lehigh Football Nation
October 17th, 2006, 10:06 AM
I heard this AM that the (Miami?) radio announcer got fired last night.

I saw nothing of this fight on the sidelines in this game. But I laughed pretty hard at the radio call of it. Like it or not, every player and fan had that go through their mind at some point - "don't let that happen in our house" type of stuff - and the call was an instant classic.

Again, let me preface this by saying I didn't see anything of the brawl, if anyone got seriously hurt, etc.

blackfordpu
October 17th, 2006, 03:12 PM
More footage of the fight
http://www.break.com/index/florida_football_brawl.html

aggie6thman
October 17th, 2006, 03:39 PM
I know that this has already been discussed, but the way the announcer is talking about how FIU should get their butts kicked for coming to the Orange Bowl is unreal. I can't believe this. Not to mention the crowd reaction with everyone cheering and holding up the U signs. When I saw this on TV it made me thankful that I am in no way affiliated with FIU or Miami.

This really is a HUGE black eye for all of college football.

ngineer
October 17th, 2006, 10:00 PM
Disgraceful. I expect Coker to be gone. A team reflects its leadership...or lack thereof. FIU seems to have taken quick action, though I suspect the fight's instigation was mutual with a lot of Panthers having chips on their shoulders and Hurricanes 'rubbing it in'.

dirtbag
October 18th, 2006, 08:04 AM
The I-A announcers and I-A student-athlete behavior is despicable.





Miami and FIU weren't the only teams involved in a brawl last weekend — players from Dartmouth and Holy Cross fought at the end of their game when the teams lined up for postgame handshakes. The fighting started on Dartmouth's Memorial Field after Holy Cross won 24-21 in overtime Saturday.

After Holy Cross players celebrated on the Dartmouth "D" painted on the field, fights broke out between the teams when the Division I-AA teams lined up for customary handshakes. Witnesses said some players were thrown to the ground and kicked. Coaches, campus security and Hanover, N.H., police broke it up.

Dartmouth players who threw punches instead of shaking hands at the end of the game may face discipline or arrest, college and police officials said.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/content/sports/stories/other/10/18/18colfootnotes.html

Pards Rule
October 18th, 2006, 09:46 AM
SO much for the "this ***** don't happen in I-AA"

B&G
October 18th, 2006, 12:43 PM
Lamar Thomas has already found a new job. He was quoted as saying "MAN YOU CAN'T COME INTO THA B.K. AND GET SOME WHOPPERS! IMMA SUPASIZE MY FOOT UP YO AZZ! WE CAN TAKE THIS TO THA DRIVE THRU! WE READY WE READY!!"

As a lifelong Hurricane fan I can't say I'm the least bit surprised b/c if someone had told me a brawl broke out and asked me to guess which two teams were involved, Miami would have been my first guess. Florida State would've been my 2nd. Larry Coker has gotta go at the end of the season. However I will make one small defense for Miami. At least their punishments are consistant. They suspended three of their best players for the FSU game to open the season. So I don't think they're only suspending their players 1 game b/c they play Duke next and know they'll still win.

AppGuy04
October 18th, 2006, 05:17 PM
Lamar Thomas has already found a new job. He was quoted as saying "MAN YOU CAN'T COME INTO THA B.K. AND GET SOME WHOPPERS! IMMA SUPASIZE MY FOOT UP YO AZZ! WE CAN TAKE THIS TO THA DRIVE THRU! WE READY WE READY!!"

As a lifelong Hurricane fan I can't say I'm the least bit surprised b/c if someone had told me a brawl broke out and asked me to guess which two teams were involved, Miami would have been my first guess. Florida State would've been my 2nd. Larry Coker has gotta go at the end of the season. However I will make one small defense for Miami. At least their punishments are consistant. They suspended three of their best players for the FSU game to open the season. So I don't think they're only suspending their players 1 game b/c they play Duke next and know they'll still win.

but you can't tell me one game is enough?

MarkCCU
October 18th, 2006, 05:26 PM
kick em all off the team.. damn thugs ruining the sport

*****
October 18th, 2006, 05:26 PM
SO much for the "this ***** don't happen in I-AA"I already said fighting happens in I-AA, just not as often and not as criminal.

D1B
October 18th, 2006, 07:10 PM
I already said fighting happens in I-AA, just not as often and not as criminal.

If a tree falls in a forest, and there no..............................

FCS_pwns_FBS
October 18th, 2006, 08:37 PM
If a tree falls in a forest, and there no..............................

Once advantage of not getting any media attention, I suppose. xlolx I think you'd have to have people throwing helmets and gatorade coolers at each other for us to make TV.

Kill'em
October 18th, 2006, 09:38 PM
Once advantage of not getting any media attention, I suppose. xlolx I think you'd have to have people throwing helmets and gatorade coolers at each other for us to make TV.
Sad commentary of our society, isn't it? :nonono2:

B&G
October 19th, 2006, 11:22 AM
but you can't tell me one game is enough?

Nope, never defended that. Just pointing out they are consistant. But what is a proper punishment? Most of the team was involved and they aren't just going to suspend everyone for the rest of the season. I think a good solution is what Clemson and SC did after their brawl last season which is that Miami should say they are punishing the players by not going accepting any bowl bids. And Coker has gotta be fired at the end of the season.