2013 Conference Playoff Record

[Southern Bison]

As the Bison & Tigers prepare for Frisco, here's a look at how the conferences fared...

Records of the 11 FCS conferences in the FCS playoffs:


Missouri Valley - 4-1 (.800)

CAA - 6-2 (.750)

Big South - 2-1 (.667)

Ohio Valley - 4-3 (.571)
Southland - 2-3 (.400)
Big Sky - 2-4 (.333)
Patriot - 1-2 (.333)
Southern - 1-2 (.333)
Northeast - 0-1 (.000)
Pioneer - 0-1 (.000)
Mid-Eastern Athletic - 0-2 (.000)

[MR. CHICKEN]

As the Bison & Tigers prepare for Frisco, here's a look at how the conferences fared...

Records of the 11 FCS conferences in the FCS playoffs:


Missouri Valley - 4-1 (.800)…1 SEMI-FINAL……&…..CHAMPIONSHIP BERTH

CAA - 6-2 (.750)…..2 SEMI-FINALS….. &…..CHAMPIONSHIP BERTH

Big South - 2-1 (.667)

Ohio Valley - 4-3 (.571)
Southland - 2-3 (.400)
Big Sky - 2-4 (.333)…..1 SEMI-FINAL
Patriot - 1-2 (.333)
Southern - 1-2 (.333)
Northeast - 0-1 (.000)
Pioneer - 0-1 (.000)
Mid-Eastern Athletic - 0-2 (.000)



………..BRAWK!

[jmufan999]

CAA - 6-2 (.750)

accurate but also misleading.

UNH beat Maine, another CAA team. take that win away from UNH and the loss away from Maine and the CAA is 5-1.

[No_Skill]

accurate but also misleading.

UNH beat Maine, another CAA team. take that win away from UNH and the loss away from Maine and the CAA is 5-1.

Misleading??? That's the price you pay for getting more than two conference teams to the playoffs I suppose.

[The Ville]

Aside from the two conferences that have a team in the title game (CAA & MVC) the OVC will be the only conf. to finish with a winning playoff record and that's with one of our 3 teams being knocked out by one of the other 2.

[OL FU]

Furman might be 1-1 but right now, our loss isn't looking nearly as bad as it did three weeks ago:o

[Southern Bison]

This shows the actual conference strength in the FCS even with the in-conference games during the playoffs. Further proof of the MVFC, CAA, & OVC's leadership while the Big Sky showed that 1 team doesn't make a conference and the SoCon is rebuilding.

[Tealblood]

Aside from the two conferences that have a team in the title game (CAA & MVC) the OVC will be the only conf. to finish with a winning playoff record and that's with one of our 3 teams being knocked out by one of the other 2.


The he big south or rather Coastal finished with a winning record

[darell1976]

This shows the actual conference strength in the FCS even with the in-conference games during the playoffs. Further proof of the MVFC, CAA, & OVC's leadership while the Big Sky showed that 1 team doesn't make a conference and the SoCon is rebuilding.

You have 2 teams from the MVFC, what strength is that?? Actual conference strength should be number of teams from each conference.

[Gil Dobie]

You have 2 teams from the MVFC, what strength is that?? Actual conference strength should be number of teams from each conference.

So you trust the selection committee? MVFC is the only conference with 7 teams under the ranking of 30.00 GPI.

GPI

CONFERENCE RANKING:

Rank, League, Total Average
1. Missouri Valley Football Conference (27.11)
2. Colonial Athletic Association (34.23)
3. Southland Conference (35.46)
4. Ohio Valley Conference (37.94)
5. Big Sky Conference (43.65)
6. Southern Conference (46.90)
7. Ivy League (49.57)
8. Big South Conference (51.71)
9. Patriot League (56.92)
10. Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (63.21)
11. Independents (64.41)
12. Northeast Conference (67.92)
13. Pioneer Football League (78.38)
14. Southwestern Athletic Conference (79.76)

1. Missouri Valley Football Conference (27.11)
1. N Dakota St (1.14)
7T. S Dakota St (8.14)
12T. Northern Iowa (15.86)
12T. Youngstown St (15.86)
14. S Illinois (17.00)
27. Missouri St (25.71)
28. Illinois St (26.00)
47. South Dakota (41.57)
53. W Illinois (45.86)
94. Indiana St (74.00)

2. Colonial Athletic Association (34.23)
5. Towson (6.00)
9. Maine (10.00)
19. New Hampshire (19.57)
20. Villanova (19.86)
24. William & Mary (23.57)
37. Richmond (33.29)
39. Delaware (35.43)
42. James Madison (36.71)
43. Stony Brook (37.14)
88. Rhode Island (72.29)
106. Albany (82.71)

3. Southland Conference (35.46)
4. SE Louisiana (4.14)
7T. McNeese St (8.14)
21. Sam Houston St (20.29)
31. Cent Arkansas (28.57)
51. Northwestern St (43.86)
65. Lamar (54.14)
73. Nicholls St (60.14)
78. SF Austin (64.43)

4. Ohio Valley Conference (37.94)
2. E Illinois (1.86)
18. Tennessee St (19.29)
22. Jacksonville St (20.71)
29. TN Martin (26.71)
40T. Murray St (36.14)
44. E Kentucky (38.00)
61. Tennessee Tech (49.57)
75. SE Missouri St (60.86)
115. Austin Peay (88.29)

5. Big Sky Conference (43.65)
3. E Washington (3.86)
6. Montana (7.00)
10. Northern Arizona (13.29)
32. Cal Poly (29.14)
36. Montana St (33.00)
38. Southern Utah (33.57)
50. Portland St (43.14)
59. UC Davis (48.86)
60. Sacramento St (49.00)
87. Weber St (72.14)
91T. North Dakota (72.86)
99. Idaho St (76.14)
109T. N Colorado (85.43)

6. Southern Conference (46.90)
26. Chattanooga (25.14)
30. Samford (28.43)
35. Ga Southern (32.57)
40T. Furman (36.14)
56. The Citadel (47.14)
58. Wofford (48.71)
62. Appalachian St (53.00)
97. W Carolina (75.29)
98. Elon (75.71)

[darell1976]

This argument was brought up by a Bison fan on the siouxsports.com board and a Griz fan posted this response:

http://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/18943-best-fcs-conferencebig-sky-missouri-valley/page__st__20


Jorcon:
Actually the selection committee is starting to use their SRS ratings to determine playoff teams, comparable to the RPI ratings they use to determine teams for the NCAA hoops tournament. This is the first year they have used it but it will be the norm going forward.


http://www.ncaa.com/...cs/fcs-srs-poll (http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-srs-poll)

[Gil Dobie]

This argument was brought up by a Bison fan on the siouxsports.com board and a Griz fan posted this response:

http://forum.siouxsports.com/topic/18943-best-fcs-conferencebig-sky-missouri-valley/page__st__20

........and they have YSU ahead of UNH and Samford. What I have seen in the playoffs, NDSU played #7, 29 and 33. No disrespect to them, but all 3 would be flirting with a .500 MVFC record, which is how tough the MVFC is.

[BisonTru]

You have to change your criteria to keep both YSU and UNI out of the playoffs. YSU had a higher SRS rankings but didn't have any big outta of conference wins. UNI had a higher sagarin ranking and very good outta conference wins but struggled within the conference. The committee has made it very clear, if you play in the valley you better not leave even a sliver of a doubt or were leaving you out.

[birdsflyhigh]

Completely agree on the sliver of doubt statement. Come playoff selection time, it's pretty much BS for MVFC teams. They will be the FIRST to be excluded.

[clenz]

You have to change your criteria to keep both YSU and UNI out of the playoffs. YSU had a higher SRS rankings but didn't have any big outta of conference wins. UNI had a higher sagarin ranking and very good outta conference wins but struggled within the conference. The committee has made it very clear, if you play in the valley you better not leave even a sliver of a doubt or were leaving you out.

This. The criteria changes every year with the mvfc.

Years ago it was "the bottom of the conference is too bad, you need to strengthen your league". That happened and it was "you dint have any teams that separated themselves...clearly no teams are that good" and now it's "you have one great team so the rest is no good"

The MVFC can't "win"

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[Bisonator]

Anyone want to go back and figure out the wins by conference for the 2010, 2011 and 2012 playoffs? I'd be curious to see what they were.

[SIUSalukiFan]

This. The criteria changes every year with the mvfc.

Years ago it was "the bottom of the conference is too bad, you need to strengthen your league". That happened and it was "you dint have any teams that separated themselves...clearly no teams are that good" and now it's "you have one great team so the rest is no good"

The MVFC can't "win"

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While I'm on board with my MVFC brothers wasn't UNI's athletic director on the selection committee this year? xlolx

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

While I'm on board with my MVFC brothers wasn't UNI's athletic director on the selection committee this year? xlolx


So was S Carolina State's AD....and they made it in.
So was Fordham's AD....and they made it in.

Plus ADs from Tenn Tech, CC State, Morehead State, Wofford, SFA, Portland State, Liberty and James Madison.

SIU,SDSU, YSU and UNI could have beaten Coastal Carolina and UNH. SIU-UNI-YSU: win one more game next year.

[clenz]

While I'm on board with my MVFC brothers wasn't UNI's athletic director on the selection committee this year? xlolx

Dannen wasnt allowed to discuss UNI, and I'm sure that he lobbied for MVFC teams...but as pointed out there is a huge anti MVFC bias

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Dannen wasnt allowed to discuss UNI, and I'm sure that he lobbied for MVFC teams...but as pointed out there is a huge anti MVFC bias

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As the years go on, I tend to agree with this.

Southern Utah was a joke. So was a 2nd team from the MEAC. Even a 3rd OVC team.

There are Bison fans that want to play 2 FBS games next year....NO way IMO. Looks like a MV team needs 8-9 wins to make it in if they are not the Auto....probably 9.

But your right clenz....Dannen had to leave the room if UNI was being discussed. More than likely the ADs from SCSU-Morehead State-Fordham-CCSU-Tenn State-Liberty all gave a big thumbs down to UNI getting a playoff spot.

Then look at a team like Lafayette getting steam rolled in their game....xcoffeex...which wasn't a surprise.

It is what it is.....tell our ADs to schedule 3 OOC cupcakes to get the wins.....

[BisonTru]

As the years go on, I tend to agree with this.

Southern Utah was a joke. So was a 2nd team from the MEAC. Even a 3rd OVC team.

There are Bison fans that want to play 2 FBS games next year....NO way IMO. Looks like a MV team needs 8-9 wins to make it in if they are not the Auto....probably 9.

But your right clenz....Dannen had to leave the room if UNI was being discussed. More than likely the ADs from SCSU-Morehead State-Fordham-CCSU-Tenn State-Liberty all gave a big thumbs down to UNI getting a playoff spot.

Then look at a team like Lafayette getting steam rolled in their game....xcoffeex...which wasn't a surprise.

It is what it is.....tell our ADs to schedule 3 OOC cupcakes to get the wins.....

Doesn't matter, that's what YSU did. If the committee can find a slice of justification for snubbing the valley, they will.


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[clenz]

Doesn't matter, that's what YSU did. If the committee can find a slice of justification for snubbing the valley, they will.


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That was why YSU was left out.

Funny thing is, with explanations on YSU and UNI the committee admitted to making **** up without saying that.

They said a school was left out because a weak OOC hurt them and they needed to show more ooc because that was just as/more important that conference play. important...then they said another team was left out because of their conference record.

Guess who they were talking about.



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[Gil Dobie]

Anyone want to go back and figure out the wins by conference for the 2010, 2011 and 2012 playoffs? I'd be curious to see what they were.

Feel free to check my math.



2010W
2010L
2011W
2011L
2012W
2012L
2013W
2013l
Total


MVFC
3
3
5
1
6
2
4
1
18-7


Big South
0
1
1
1
2
2
2
1
5-5


NEC
0
1
0
1
1
1
0
1
1-4


MEAC
0
2
0
1
0
1
0
2
0-6


Southern
5
3
2
3
3
3
1
2
11-11


Patriot
1
1
1
1
0
1
1
2
3-5


CAA
6
4
3
5
1
3
6
2
16-14


Southland
0
1
4
2
3
2
2
3
9-8


Big Sky
4
1
3
2
3
3
2
4
12-10


OVC
0
2
0
2
0
1
4
3
4-8


Pioneer
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0-1

[The Ville]

"Southern Utah was a joke. So was a 2nd team from the MEAC. Even a 3rd OVC team."

Sorry but the OVC had 2 teams in the Semifinals including that third selection, it's hard to argue they were worthy of that.

[clenz]

"Southern Utah was a joke. So was a 2nd team from the MEAC. Even a 3rd OVC team."

Sorry but the OVC had 2 teams in the Semifinals including that third selection, it's hard to argue they were worthy of that.

Um....what?

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[The Ville]

Sry meant quarters, but when you have 25% (2 of 8 teams) my point was just it's tough to argue that conf. didn't deserve their playoff bids

[BisonTru]

Sry meant quarters, but when you have 25% (2 of 8 teams) my point was just it's tough to argue that conf. didn't deserve their playoff bids

JSU's win vs. McNeese St surprised me and proved they deserved to be in the field. Other than that the OVC beat Butler, Samford, and Tenn St. The OVC is looking better this year than in the past. But how do you look at field of teams were the number 1 conference gets 2 teams in and the OVC gets 3, the big sky gets 4, the southland gets 3, and even the MEAC can get 2 teams in the field and say that looks about right. Three of the last four out came from the valley. There are a lot of playoffs teams that couldn't go .500 in the valley this year.

[Big_Fan]

JSU's win vs. McNeese St surprised me and proved they deserved to be in the field. Other than that the OVC beat Butler, Samford, and Tenn St. The OVC is looking better this year than in the past. But how do you look at field of teams were the number 1 conference gets 2 teams in and the OVC gets 3, the big sky gets 4, the southland gets 3, and even the MEAC can get 2 teams in the field and say that looks about right. Three of the last four out came from the valley. There are a lot of playoffs teams that couldn't go .500 in the valley this year.

There were a lot of first round teams that would have fallen to TSU - and a number of second round teams. TSU got eliminated by EIU... too bad all 3 OVC teams were not in different brackets - the OVC might have had 3 teams in the quarterfinals...heck, TSU might have made semifinals in NH's bracket.

[BisonTru]

There were a lot of first round teams that would have fallen to TSU - and a number of second round teams. TSU got eliminated by EIU... too bad all 3 OVC teams were not in different brackets - the OVC might have had 3 teams in the quarterfinals...heck, TSU might have made semifinals in NH's bracket.

Would TennSt beat SCSU, Samford, Southern Utah... yeah probably. Would TennSt beat UNI, SIU, or YSU... I don't think so... I could be wrong and at the end of the day we'll never know.
The OVC looked very good this year and the conference is headed in the right direction, but is it better than the MVFC...No!

[caribbeanhen]

Feel free to check my math.



2010W

2010L

2011W

2011L

2012W

2012L

2013W

2013l

Total



MVFC

3

3

5

1

6

2

4

1

18-7



Big South

0

1

1

1

2

2

2

1

5-5



NEC

0

1

0

1

1

1

0

1

1-4



MEAC

0

2

0

1

0

1

0

2

0-6



Southern

5

3

2

3

3

3

1

2

11-11



Patriot

1

1

1

1

0

1

1

2

3-5



CAA

6

4

3

5

1

3

6

2

16-14



Southland

0

1

4

2

3

2

2

3

9-8



Big Sky

4

1

3

2

3

3

2

4

12-10



OVC

0

2

0

2

0

1

4

3

4-8



Pioneer

0

0

0

0

0

0

0

1

0-1





so without North Dakota States 9-0 (or so) that MVFC record looks less than stellar

[Gil Dobie]

so without North Dakota States 9-0 (or so) that MVFC record looks less than stellar

The rest of the MVFC (6 teams in 4 years) are 5-6. But if NDSU is not the MVFC champ, some one else would have probably been in and won a few games. Pretty even across the board for the power conferences.

[caribbeanhen]

The rest of the MVFC (6 teams in 4 years) are 5-6. But if NDSU is not the MVFC champ, some one else would have probably been in and won a few games. Pretty even across the board for the power conferences.

fair enough, I would like to see a MVFC vs CAA FCS football match up similar to what the ACC and Big 10 do in basketball, lets settle this on the field....

[TwinCitiesBison]

fair enough, I would like to see a MVFC vs CAA FCS football match up similar to what the ACC and Big 10 do in basketball, lets settle this on the field....

This is a great idea...not just for the CAA and MVFC...but why can't conferences across the country get in on this? BSC vs. Southland, OVC vs. Patriot, etc...? Every team just leaves one date open on their schedule and let the conferences set up the contests. Rotate home teams every year so no one gets shorted...I like it!

[Cocky]

Would TennSt beat SCSU, Samford, Southern Utah... yeah probably. Would TennSt beat UNI, SIU, or YSU... I don't think so... I could be wrong and at the end of the day we'll never know.
The OVC looked very good this year and the conference is headed in the right direction, but is it better than the MVFC...No!
The OVC had a good record against the MVC this year.

[Gil Dobie]

The OVC had a good record against the MVC this year.

2 wins over Missouri St, 1-1 vs SIU and 1-0 vs each ISU.

[darell1976]

This is a great idea...not just for the CAA and MVFC...but why can't conferences across the country get in on this? BSC vs. Southland, OVC vs. Patriot, etc...? Every team just leaves one date open on their schedule and let the conferences set up the contests. Rotate home teams every year so no one gets shorted...I like it!


UND is doing this with the MVFC with home and homes with SDSU (just finished), Missouri St starting next season, and South Dakota in 2016(I believe is the first game).

[underdawg]

So was S Carolina State's AD....and they made it in.
So was Fordham's AD....and they made it in.

Plus ADs from Tenn Tech, CC State, Morehead State, Wofford, SFA, Portland State, Liberty and James Madison.

SIU,SDSU, YSU and UNI could have beaten Coastal Carolina and UNH. SIU-UNI-YSU: win one more game next year.


That sounds simple enough but the committee is not going to let three MVFC teams in at-large IMO---and if we beat YSU that eliminates them and if UNI beats SIU that's probably it for us too even if we beat YSU--look, if the Committee is just *********ing about using SOS could they just frickin' tell us so we can schedule A&M Tech and Mary Mother of God Girls College instead of EIU and U of I?

[clenz]

That sounds simple enough but the committee is not going to let three MVFC teams in at-large IMO---and if we beat YSU that eliminates them and if UNI beats SIU that's probably it for us too even if we beat YSU--look, if the Committee is just *********ing about using SOS could they just frickin' tell us so we can schedule A&M Tech and Mary Mother of God Girls College instead of EIU and U of I?

If it was about SOS, and apparently it was because it was said YSU didn't get in because if SOS, UNI should have been in.

UNI was held out because of conference record, but YSu met that criteria.

SIU had both but didn't have 7 d1 winsso that likely kept them out....but not SHSU.

Really it doesn't matter what MVFC does there will be a "justification" to keep them out...even if that justification flies in the face of a different justification to keep another MVFC team out

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