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umassfan
October 14th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Game over!

Stang Fever
October 14th, 2006, 01:16 PM
MAN...I believe the ROUT just might be on. Lets see if UNH can bounce back.

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:16 PM
JMU up now 35-10 with 2:49 left in the 3rd quarter.

AppGuy04
October 14th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Game over!

I would tend to agree unless JMU just falls apart

Mountaineer
October 14th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Woohoo! Go Dukes! :hurray: :hurray:

unknown-swac
October 14th, 2006, 01:17 PM
So whats the score now

Mountaineer
October 14th, 2006, 01:17 PM
35-10

AppGuy04
October 14th, 2006, 01:18 PM
So whats the score now

35-10 JMU

2:49 3rd

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:19 PM
Not in my wildest dreams would I have thought this was the score line at the end of the 3rd......

But it's not over yet!

AppGuy04
October 14th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Not in my wildest dreams would I have thought this was the score line at the end of the 3rd......

But it's not over yet!

4 TD's in the 4th is almost impossible.

Especially with UNH's defense

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:20 PM
Not in my wildest dreams would I have thought this was the score line at the end of the 3rd......

But it's not over yet!
Yeah, this is unbelievable. But let's not count our chickens before they hatch. There's still time left for UNH to mount a comeback. There's no question UNH is good and JMU cannot let them start to get a rhythm back.

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:21 PM
JMU stuffs Ward on the 3rd and short run. It'll be 4th down.

AppGuy04
October 14th, 2006, 01:22 PM
I figured they would lose a game in the A10, but I never thought it would be like this.

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:22 PM
Baker fair catch around the JMU 36.

Stang Fever
October 14th, 2006, 01:23 PM
SO JMU IS JUST HITTING UNH IN THE MOUTH AND HURTING PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT.

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:24 PM
Two Holloman runs get about eight yards. It'll be 3rd and short.

The 3rd quarter ends, JMU leads 35-10.

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:26 PM
Actually, I guess I was off, it was 3rd and 6, Holloman gets a couple but JMU punts.

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:26 PM
UNH gets ball at own 17.

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:27 PM
Oh man, Santos sacked to their own 5yd line.

Stang Fever
October 14th, 2006, 01:27 PM
This game is over. UNH just looks flat

Mountaineer
October 14th, 2006, 01:28 PM
So why didn't JMU play like this in Boone? :rotateh:

:bow:

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:28 PM
UNH turns over on downs, at their own 20yd line...

HensRock
October 14th, 2006, 01:29 PM
UNH just going through the motions now. They're obviously not used to being down like this. This Game is over.

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:31 PM
So why didn't JMU play like this in Boone? :rotateh:

:bow:

Consider it a Championship present ;)

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 01:31 PM
Another JMU TD

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:32 PM
Another touchdown for JMU.

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:32 PM
TD JMU. Antoinne Bolton with the 6yd run. 41-10 JMU, XP pending...

Mountaineer
October 14th, 2006, 01:32 PM
Dukes takin' the Cats out behind the shed now.

xsmileyclapx xsmileyclapx

umassfan
October 14th, 2006, 01:32 PM
If UNH's run D is this week... they will have a rough time with our big oline and Baylark. :nod:

blur2005
October 14th, 2006, 01:32 PM
42-10 JMU with the extra point.

HensRock
October 14th, 2006, 01:33 PM
I'll be the first to admit I was wrong about JMU. Good game.
And for UNH - they show they are mortal after all. They looked flat and did not play like themselves all day long.
Maybe they were partying too much last night for Homecoming. They definitely did not look like the team I saw at Delaware Stadium.

Mountaineer
October 14th, 2006, 01:33 PM
Consider it a Championship present ;)

Haha, ya'll are looking pretty scary right now..or..New Hampshire is playing the worst game ever..or..a bit of both.. ;) :thumbsup:

Sam Adams
October 14th, 2006, 01:33 PM
UNH just getting destroyed. Hopefully UMASS TCB later this afternoon !!!

Tod
October 14th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Haha, ya'll are looking pretty scary right now..or..New Hampshire is playing the worst game ever..or..a bit of both.. ;) :thumbsup:

I'd say you hit that one right on the money. :nod:

rufus
October 14th, 2006, 01:34 PM
So why didn't JMU play like this in Boone? :rotateh:

:bow:
I'm not saying we would have won against ASU, but the game would have been a lot more interesting if this team had shown up.

I hope you guys get to meet the new and improved JMU team some time in December.;)

McNeese75
October 14th, 2006, 01:35 PM
Damn Website crapped out on me so I missed most of the second half. Congrats to JMU! :hurray:

PantherRob82
October 14th, 2006, 01:36 PM
wow :confused:

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:37 PM
I'm not saying we would have won against ASU, but the game would have been a lot more interesting if this team had shown up.

I hope you guys get to meet the new and improved JMU team some time in December.;)

It'll be W&M 2004 payback allll over ;)

Just kidding of course, don't want to jinx anything.

psc2445
October 14th, 2006, 01:38 PM
wow :confused:

ditto

Uncle Buck
October 14th, 2006, 01:38 PM
big W for JMU, great job.

Mountaineer
October 14th, 2006, 01:39 PM
Thankfully this wasn't San Diego at New Hampshire. The score would be 73-10 by now. :smiley_wi

PantherMan
October 14th, 2006, 01:40 PM
Well I figured UNH was going to lose at least once in the A-10 this season after seeing them play UNI last season. This lopsided loss was NOT what I imagined, however.:eyebrow:

Sam Adams
October 14th, 2006, 01:40 PM
TD Santos....42-17

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:41 PM
TD UNH. 42-17 JMU. About 9 mins to go in the game.

Santos with a rushing TD.

rufus
October 14th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Thankfully this wasn't San Diego at New Hampshire. The score would be 73-10 by now. :smiley_wi
Looking at the way the polls having been going this year, I would guess that San Diego will be the new #1 team in the nation while JMU will drop out of the top 25 after this week's performance. :)

Uncle Buck
October 14th, 2006, 01:43 PM
did i concede that victory too early?

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:45 PM
did i concede that victory too early?

Possibly, still about 9 mins to go! JMU receiving the ball at about their 35yd line.

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:51 PM
The Scatman with a nice run to the 11yd line for a 1st down.

UNHWildCats
October 14th, 2006, 01:52 PM
UNH 31 carries 5 yards

UMass922
October 14th, 2006, 01:55 PM
UNH 31 carries 5 yards

!!

UNHWildCats
October 14th, 2006, 01:55 PM
:mad: :mad: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: Its one thing to have ur starters still in this game. But to go for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal?
:nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :mad: :mad:

UNHWildCats
October 14th, 2006, 01:56 PM
I just lost all respect i gained for JMU today!

DTSpider
October 14th, 2006, 01:56 PM
Great win for JMU. Hopefully UR can take care of business against UD next week to set up a huge game on the 28th.

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 01:57 PM
I just lost all respect i gained for JMU today!

:rolleyes:

JMU turns over on downs at about the 3yd line.

P2TheB
October 14th, 2006, 01:59 PM
:mad: :mad: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: Its one thing to have ur starters still in this game. But to go for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal?
:nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :mad: :mad:

Sometimes that's a sign of respect for the opposing team/coach. They go for it on 4th, so that the chip shot 3 points isn't tacked on. The turnover on down near the goalline kind of shows that, IMO. They went for it, but never put up the points. Just my :twocents:

Sam Adams
October 14th, 2006, 02:00 PM
No class by JMU

Sam Adams
October 14th, 2006, 02:00 PM
No class by JMU

UNHWildCats
October 14th, 2006, 02:02 PM
Sometimes that's a sign of respect for the opposing team/coach. They go for it on 4th, so that the chip shot 3 points isn't tacked on. The turnover on down near the goalline kind of shows that, IMO. They went for it, but never put up the points. Just my :twocents:

They were trying to score. Probably treying to make the box score pretier for poll voters. Classless! :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2:

unknown-swac
October 14th, 2006, 02:03 PM
So what were they supposed to do? Kick the field goal? Hell it was going to be points either way.

Sam Adams
October 14th, 2006, 02:04 PM
Typical Mickey Mathews style on display.

BigApp
October 14th, 2006, 02:04 PM
I'm not saying we would have won against ASU, but the game would have been a lot more interesting if this team had shown up.



Maybe our defense had something to do with this team not showing up :p

Congrats on a great day for your program today!:nod:

Fordham
October 14th, 2006, 02:06 PM
wow :confused:

ditto
what they said

Mountaineer
October 14th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Congrats Dukes! Great win! :hurray: :bow: :rotateh:

Wouldn't worry too much about all the :waawaa: :waawaa: :waawaa: :waawaa: going on.

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 02:08 PM
Congrats Dukes! Great win! :hurray: :bow: :rotateh:

Wouldn't worry too much about all the :waawaa: :waawaa: :waawaa: :waawaa: going on.

Yeah, I was gonna start typing my reply, but figured it was not worth it.

Thanks Mountaineer and others!

GO Dukes!

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 02:10 PM
:mad: :mad: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: Its one thing to have ur starters still in this game. But to go for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal?
:nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2: :mad: :mad:

I wouldn' Kick the field goal. Blocked field Goal attempts can get returned for TD's and a quick score. I've seen it happen way too often against good teams (Eastern Kentucky 1982) UNH could go for an onside kick and score quickly again. Now you're back in a ball game. Going for it on 4th down ran time off the clock whether the first down is achieved or not. JMU shortened the game either way by going for it instead of kicking a field goal and running the risk of a block.

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 02:12 PM
UNH rushing 9 yards on 32 carries.

Sam Adams
October 14th, 2006, 02:12 PM
If you want to show some sportsmanship you take a knee there. If you don't want to show some sportsmanship you go for a td or a fg. Matthews went for a TD.

Good Job Dukes - congratulations on the win.

CoastalFan2005
October 14th, 2006, 02:12 PM
Final score?

th0m
October 14th, 2006, 02:15 PM
42-23 JMU.

psc2445
October 14th, 2006, 02:17 PM
I wouldn' Kick the field goal. Blocked field Goal attempts can get returned for TD's and a quick score. I've seen it happen way too often against good teams (Eastern Kentucky 1982) UNH could go for an onside kick and score quickly again. Now you're back in a ball game. Going for it on 4th down ran time off the clock whether the first down is achieved or not. JMU shortened the game either way by going for it instead of kicking a field goal and running the risk of a block.

without knowing the details and just reading on here i believe the above summation make the most sense to me. running straight ahead is the safest offensive move to avoid a costly mistake


btw, congrats Dukes

tribe_pride
October 14th, 2006, 02:18 PM
If you want to show some sportsmanship you take a knee there. If you don't want to show some sportsmanship you go for a td or a fg. Matthews went for a TD.

Good Job Dukes - congratulations on the win.

there was about 4:00 left. I have never seen a knee taken that early.

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 02:19 PM
If you want to show some sportsmanship you take a knee there.

Wrong it was 4th down and they had a chance to get the first and run out some more of the clock.
Mickey definitely wanted a first down there.

ISUMatt
October 14th, 2006, 02:19 PM
I wasnt expecting this outcome!

FlyYtown
October 14th, 2006, 02:19 PM
Congrats JMU... And that was not classless IMHO. Either you kick or go for the TD. Points either way...... Regardless: UNH Lost the game so it doesn't matter.

UNHWildCats
October 14th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Wrong it was 4th down and they had a chance to get the first and run out some more of the clock.
Mickey definitely wanted a first down there.

they were inside the freaking 5 how much more time could u run off if u got a 1st down. He changed the play azt the liune, he was trying to get in the endzone.

jmufootball2
October 14th, 2006, 02:27 PM
dont be so salty, it doesnt matter. good game unh, better start preparing for next week.

ISUMatt
October 14th, 2006, 02:29 PM
your just upset because your team lost...If you dont want the score to be run up, then make a stop!!! If he got a first down, they could have run 2 more minutes off the clock, thats alot!

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 02:34 PM
they were inside the freaking 5 how much more time could u run off if u got a 1st down. He changed the play azt the liune, he was trying to get in the endzone.


You originally asked why they did not kick the field goal and I explained the risks involved with that decision.

With a first down inside the 5 you can run four more plays that could take 30 to 45 seconds for each play if you chose to do that. The play was a 4th and short. It was the right play. Get control of your emotions it was the correct call to make against a dangerous offense that could have still come back with almost 4 minutes left in the game.

UMass922
October 14th, 2006, 02:53 PM
Congrats to JMU. Truly a statement win today.

JMU2K_DukeDawg
October 14th, 2006, 03:08 PM
Just got back from a hell of a viewing party here in the DC area. Not what any of us expected. Some fans really thought we would win, but most of us were not about to make that prediction. I was not among them and was glad to be wrong today! :rotateh:

It was quite entertaining to read through the thread from beginning to end.

For all you people around the country, that was perhaps the worst performance of Rascati's career. (minus the good rushing) He really didn't look like himself today for whatever reason, but thankfully we have a team, and they pitched in for some big plays when needed.

UNH D is better than I thought despite the scoreboard. Still, the rushing D was a step behind all day long. I also think people don't realize with the numbers how much Santos makes things happen with the dink and dunk offense - actually a lot like our passing game - but they execute a hell of a lot better. Luckily our young secondary played exceptional today, not like we've really played all year. Hopefully that's a sign our DBs are learning bit by bit each week.

So long as we outlast the Tribe next week at home, it'll be a big showdown in Richmond in two weeks!

Thanks for all your support I-AA nation!:hurray: :hurray: :bow: :bow:

JMU2K_DukeDawg
October 14th, 2006, 03:12 PM
...By the way, Good luck on the rest of your season UNH. I hope those injuries weren't too serious although they looked kinda bad.

Beat the pooh outta UMass when you play 'em!!!!:thumbsup:

GreatAppSt
October 14th, 2006, 03:31 PM
uh-oh JMU...

homerism: smh : : smh : :D

JohnStOnge
October 14th, 2006, 03:39 PM
Run the ball, stop the run, win. It works most of the time.

DB_Atlantic10
October 14th, 2006, 04:00 PM
they were inside the freaking 5 how much more time could u run off if u got a 1st down. He changed the play azt the liune, he was trying to get in the endzone.

This sounds funny coming from a team that has averaged 46 plus points a game... many knees taken there I'm sure.... JMU did the right thing by running the downs out....That's way from classless. Now if they would have run a reverse flee flicker, that would have been a bit much.....

ButlerGSU
October 14th, 2006, 04:01 PM
I knew UNH would slip up somewhere, figured it would be to Richmond though instead of JMU, wow.

Ivytalk
October 14th, 2006, 04:25 PM
Congrats to JMU for a dominating performance.

UNHWildCats
October 14th, 2006, 04:27 PM
This sounds funny coming from a team that has averaged 46 plus points a game... many knees taken there I'm sure.... JMU did the right thing by running the downs out....That's way from classless. Now if they would have run a reverse flee flicker, that would have been a bit much.....

I wouldnt have had a problem if it wasnt the starters still in there, when UNH has a decent lead they put in their backups.

PantherRob82
October 14th, 2006, 04:31 PM
Riscati looked good today.

JMUfan2008
October 14th, 2006, 05:00 PM
Does anyone know offhand when the last time a #1 got blown out on their homecoming was? I know there are a lot of people on here that might know random stats like that. And I'm not talking about close losses (like when Richmond beat us last year...), I'm talking about like 3 TD's.

DB_Atlantic10
October 14th, 2006, 05:50 PM
I wouldnt have had a problem if it wasnt the starters still in there, when UNH has a decent lead they put in their backups.

Come on UNHW....put the backups in against the #1 team in the country with 6 miuntes left...now that's reaching... That would have been classless and embarassing to your team and offense... I think that was respect for your offense and their striking ablity....

Right now, I think Maine and UMass should be a bigger concerns than JMU being classless....That was a pretty clean game, with very few penalties or trash talking. This was just our day.. good luck with the above mentioned as we still have our work cut out for us...


DB

rcny46
October 14th, 2006, 06:02 PM
UNH rushing 9 yards on 32 carries.

Don't remind me.It was pretty pathetic.Maybe they're just not ready,in terms of quality personnel up and down the lineup,for prime time.From what I could see,they were outplayed in every facet of the game :bawling:

SunCoastBlueHen
October 14th, 2006, 07:25 PM
I wouldnt have had a problem if it wasnt the starters still in there, when UNH has a decent lead they put in their backups.


UNHWC, I usually respect your posts very much, but in this instance, it just sounds like you're whining. Congrast to JMU.

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Don't remind me.It was pretty pathetic.Maybe they're just not ready,in terms of quality personnel up and down the lineup,for prime time.From what I could see,they were outplayed in every facet of the game :bawling:


I wouldn't worry about that. They had a bad game that exposed some of their weaknesses that most had already seen. As great a player Santos is he can't be Harry Houdini for 12 straight weeks.

One of the problems playing in the A-10 is the requirement that you have to be playing at your optimum every week. I know the Wildcats expended a lot of emotional energy 2 weeks ago in Newark. They then had to come up with another great effort against Richmond last week. Somedays that emotional reservoir just comes up dry.

Today was one of those days.

DB_Atlantic10
October 14th, 2006, 07:43 PM
I wouldn't worry about that. They had a bad game that exposed some of their weaknesses that most had already seen. As great a player Santos is he can't be Harry Houdini for 12 straight weeks.

One of the problems playing in the A-10 is the requirement that you have to be playing at your optimum every week. I know the Wildcats expended a lot of emotional energy 2 weeks ago in Newark. They then had to come up with another great effort against Richmond last week. Somedays that emotional reservoir just comes up dry.

Today was one of those days.

bluekeys, I like how you smoothly took the credit away from JMU....smooth, very smooth......xsmileyclapx

FCS_pwns_FBS
October 14th, 2006, 07:51 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:

JMU2K_DukeDawg
October 14th, 2006, 07:51 PM
But he's right...

Also, I really didn't think Rascati had that great a game. He ran the ball well, but his passes were far from the what we're used to seeing from the 70% completion ratio QB.

Holloman on the other hand... Wow, what a day!:nod: :bow:

JMU2004
October 14th, 2006, 07:55 PM
UNH probably had an off day.....but even if on, I doubt they beat JMU today. Thats was an old school butt kicking...

DB_Atlantic10
October 14th, 2006, 07:58 PM
Holloman on the other hand... Wow, what a day!:nod: :bow:


Yes, he's something else.... Banks is big, Fenner is big and our O-Line is big...then there's Holloman(scat back) all 5'8 170lbs of him, disappearing in the line only to pop out at full speed ahead 10 yards into the secondary.... a safety's nightmare!!!:eek:

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 08:00 PM
I wouldnt have had a problem if it wasnt the starters still in there, when UNH has a decent lead they put in their backups.


Anyone who saw the tape of the 4th quarter of the UD - UNH game would have left their starters in with 6 minutes left. Heck, I've already seen UNH teams score 21+ points in less than 6 minutes. Leaving your starters in happens all the time in the playoffs.

UNHWC before you post anymore tonite you need to by a bottle of excellent spirits (my choice is Jack Daniels).

Then, You need to drink that bottle and take 2 aspirin and drink some water. Then pass out and check to see tomorrow morning after you wake up that the sun did indeed come up and the world will go on and UNH is not in such bad shape after all. After this sinks in come on back and reread these posts.

I don't think JMU was showing disrespect. No one gives a wounded bear a second chance. (Or in this case a Wildcat)

DB_Atlantic10
October 14th, 2006, 08:06 PM
[QUOTE=blukeys]
UNHWC before you post anymore tonite you need to by a bottle of excellent spirits (my choice is Jack Daniels).

Then, You need to drink that bottle and take 2 aspirin and drink some water. Then pass out and check to see tomorrow morning after you wake up that the sun did indeed come up and the world will go on and UNH is not in such bad shape after all. After this sinks in come on back and reread these posts.

QUOTE]

LMAO........xlolx

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 08:09 PM
bluekeys, I like how you smoothly took the credit away from JMU....smooth, very smooth......xsmileyclapx

Hey DB I was just trying to console a fellow A-10 er who seemed overly depressed. Trust me I've been there especially the last 2 years.

I'm not surprised that JMU won because I know in this league any team can knock off another. I was surprised by the margin of victory but I thought UNH was going to have a tough time getting past both Richmond and JMU in subsequent weeks after I saw them 2 weeks ago and they did expend a lot of emotional energy in Newark as did UD.

JMU played great and looks as if they are putting it together. I also like Holloman better than Fenner and Banks.

If that isn't complimentary enough to JMU, TOOOO BAD:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

You guys won a game big and that should be more than satisfaction enough. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

DB_Atlantic10
October 14th, 2006, 08:15 PM
Hey DB I was just trying to console a fellow A-10 er who seemed overly depressed. Trust me I've been there especially the last 2 years.

I'm not surprised that JMU won because I know in this league any team can knock off another. I was surprised by the margin of victory but I thought UNH was going to have a tough time getting past both Richmond and JMU in subsequent weeks after I saw them 2 weeks ago and they did expend a lot of emotional energy in Newark as did UD.

JMU played great and looks as if they are putting it together. I also like Holloman better than Fenner and Banks.

If that isn't complimentary enough to JMU, TOOOO BAD:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

You guys won a game big and that should be more than satisfaction enough. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:


That's cool.... I was saying that more in a sarcastic way..... Ironically after watching the UDel and Richmond game, I felt we had a chance.... You guys provded the offensive proof against their defense and Richmond provided the defensive proof against their offense... we kind of had a little of both going for us... I felt we could match UDel and Ric on offense and defense respectfully...and it happened...

blukeys
October 14th, 2006, 08:23 PM
That's cool.... I was saying that more in a sarcastic way..... Ironically after watching the UDel and Richmond game, I felt we had a chance.... You guys provded the offensive proof against their defense and Richmond provided the defensive proof against their offense... we kind of had a little of both going for us... I felt we could match UDel and Ric on offense and defense respectfully...and it happened...


I did get the sarcasm or more correctly the facetiousness. After seeing UNH in person I thought they would not go undefeated in the A-10 but then again who does??????

DB_Atlantic10
October 14th, 2006, 08:28 PM
I did get the sarcasm or more correctly the facetiousness. After seeing UNH in person I thought they would not go undefeated in the A-10 but then again who does??????


LOL...that's why I put the clapping sign.....xsmileyclapx

jmuroller
October 14th, 2006, 11:23 PM
I wouldnt have had a problem if it wasnt the starters still in there, when UNH has a decent lead they put in their backups.


xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx xlolx

Why would we risk a field goal, that could easily get blocked and returned for a TD, then with an onside kick if UNH recovers things start to get interesting.

If we go for it, only a couple things happen. We score and now we can relax and start celebrating. Or we don't get it and UNH has 95 yards for a TD and not very much time to come back. Think about it for a second.xidiotx

That was a good ole country boy butt whippin the Dukes put on UNH today.

Maroon&White
October 14th, 2006, 11:30 PM
I wouldnt have had a problem if it wasnt the starters still in there, when UNH has a decent lead they put in their backups.

I didn't see UNH take out their starters...why should JMU?


he was trying to get in the endzone.

That is the idea of football.

JMU-MRD-DAD
October 15th, 2006, 10:02 AM
They were trying to score. Probably treying to make the box score pretier for poll voters. Classless! :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2:
I agree that a FG was not the option. I believe Mickey was trying to pick up a first down and take time off the clock. Do you take a knee on 4th down?

jmuroller
October 15th, 2006, 10:13 AM
They were trying to score. Probably treying to make the box score pretier for poll voters. Classless! :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2:


Don't worry about the box score...we already had that under control!!xlolx xlolx :nod: :nod:

th0m
October 15th, 2006, 10:15 AM
An argument can be made that UNH was 'running' up the score to make it look CLOSER to the poll voters ;)

JMU-MRD-DAD
October 15th, 2006, 11:12 AM
I didn't see UNH take out their starters...why should JMU?



That is the idea of football.
Thank you.

rcny46
October 15th, 2006, 12:24 PM
I wouldn't worry about that. They had a bad game that exposed some of their weaknesses that most had already seen. As great a player Santos is he can't be Harry Houdini for 12 straight weeks.

One of the problems playing in the A-10 is the requirement that you have to be playing at your optimum every week. I know the Wildcats expended a lot of emotional energy 2 weeks ago in Newark. They then had to come up with another great effort against Richmond last week. Somedays that emotional reservoir just comes up dry.

Today was one of those days.

I can't help worrying about some things.I spend a lot of time watching what is going on at the line of scrimmage,and what I saw yesterday,and to some extent the week before,is'nt something that instills confidence.The O line was pretty much overwhelmed all day,and Santos has been sacked 9 times in the last two games.On the other side of the ball,JMU basically used 4 guys up front,dropping the other 7 in pass coverage (as did UR),and that was enough to give UNH fits.I have to assume that the coaches know who their top guys are at those positions,and that they are in there,so I don't know how you correct the problem.Mickey Matthews had said before the game that they thought there would be a mismatch on the line when UNH had the ball;I guess he was right.Time to head back to the drawing board.

JMUfan2008
October 15th, 2006, 12:25 PM
An argument can be made that UNH was 'running' up the score to make it look CLOSER to the poll voters ;)

haha, in a weird way this is true. When we got that last long pass play for a TD against App St some people said that made it look closer than it really was. Should that be considered running up the score? And why should we stop playing with 4 minutes left against the #1 offense in the nation? The games are already shortened because of the new clock rules. Are you saying we should make our guys play less just because we're able to make the plays. It's not like we were making huge throws down the field. UNH has been crushing opponents the whole season and we try to run some more time off the clock and you say we're classless? Take a knee? On 4th down? No points and 0 time run off the clock because it would be an immediate turnover on downs. Go for a Field Goal? Guaranteed 3 points, how are guaranteed points not considered running up the score? Try to get a first down? Run more time off the clock and no guaranteed points. Which do you see as having more class? If we had passed the ball into the endzone, you might have a point, but no. We ran the ball...plain and simple. How about this: If we put in our second string and kneel the ball when we have a secure lead, you have to do the fair thing and do it also. Deal? I didn't think so...

(sorry for the rant but after like 5 pages of this crap it got on my nerves)

UNH_Alum_In_CT
October 15th, 2006, 03:02 PM
The only thing I'm going to say about looking better for poll voters is why would that be such a big deal? We have playoffs so poll results don't mean squat!

Back to the game. It started with an ominous sign when David Ball missed an easy TD catch while wide open in the end zone. UNH eventually scored the TD, but it didn't set a good tone for the game.

The optimist in me would like to see how the game played out if UNH scored and went up 17-14 on the series where Sean Lynch fumbled. But it doesn't work that way. JMU took advantage and scored to make it 21-10. After that they got into that ball control offense which BTW they are very, very good at!! Note to opponents remaining on JMU's schedule -- don't fall behind by more than a TD!!!!!

The following statement is not meant to take anything away from JMU because they were the superior team yesterday, hands down. But I'm hoping that UNH got a lot the junk out of their system and just had an aberation kind of day like at W&M last year.

But like rcny46 I too have concerns and amazingly they are the same ones that I felt were reasons UNH shouldn't have been made a top five team for this season just because of Ball and Santos. The inexperience on the OL and the seven starters lost on defense, especially at DL and LB are appearing to be an issue. But we're also at that time of the season where things get tweaked a bit, adjustments to get you through the rest of the season as opponents get honed in what you do. We'll see what Coach Mac and company have in store.

Again kudos to JMU for a terrific effort and great win!

blukeys
October 15th, 2006, 09:26 PM
The only thing I'm going to say about looking better for poll voters is why would that be such a big deal? We have playoffs so poll results don't mean squat!

Back to the game. It started with an ominous sign when David Ball missed an easy TD catch while wide open in the end zone. UNH eventually scored the TD, but it didn't set a good tone for the game.

The optimist in me would like to see how the game played out if UNH scored and went up 17-14 on the series where Sean Lynch fumbled. But it doesn't work that way. JMU took advantage and scored to make it 21-10. After that they got into that ball control offense which BTW they are very, very good at!! Note to opponents remaining on JMU's schedule -- don't fall behind by more than a TD!!!!!

The following statement is not meant to take anything away from JMU because they were the superior team yesterday, hands down. But I'm hoping that UNH got a lot the junk out of their system and just had an aberation kind of day like at W&M last year.

But like rcny46 I too have concerns and amazingly they are the same ones that I felt were reasons UNH shouldn't have been made a top five team for this season just because of Ball and Santos. The inexperience on the OL and the seven starters lost on defense, especially at DL and LB are appearing to be an issue. But we're also at that time of the season where things get tweaked a bit, adjustments to get you through the rest of the season as opponents get honed in what you do. We'll see what Coach Mac and company have in store.

Again kudos to JMU for a terrific effort and great win!


As usual a voice of reason. For the record UNH is a better team then they showed yesterday and even the most jaded JMU adherent knows it. They had a bad day and JMU made them pay. IN the A-10 that's an ordinary Day. :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:

ravens
October 15th, 2006, 10:11 PM
The O line was pretty much overwhelmed all day,and Santos has been sacked 9 times in the last two games.On the other side of the ball,JMU basically used 4 guys up front,dropping the other 7 in pass coverage (as did UR),and that was enough to give UNH fits.

Exactly right.

ravens
October 15th, 2006, 10:16 PM
I didn't see UNH take out their starters...why should JMU?



That is the idea of football.


Exactly right. Don't waste air on UNHWC. He is a santos for heisman worshiper. I wasted time last week trying to convince him UNH was beatable after their struggle with Richmond's D. I am sure he is having trouble digesting this butt kicking.:D

UNH 40
October 16th, 2006, 07:37 AM
Congrats to JMU that was a great and very impressive win for you. We will pick up the pieces and come back next week. JMU's backfield pretty damn good. However I was very unimpressed with Rascati, other than the long TD run he was anything but affective. I had a feeling that this game would come down to turnovers and sure enough it did. JMU scored 21 points off of bad Turnovers by UNH. It is nearly impossible to overcome that. The most conserning thing more so than the blowout lose is that UNH lost three key players to injury and all of them are very important to the UNH defense. They are going to need some of there backups to step up bigtime while filling in.

UNHknowledge
October 16th, 2006, 09:49 AM
Great effort by JMU on the road to spoil homecoming (very typical for UNH to drop one on homecoming). This loss shouldn't kill UNH if recent history has any indication of what is to come in the future. Just like last season we didn't only lose our first game but we got pounded. Also, the captains jinx is in full effect. Corey Graham going down with a possible season ender makes it 4 years in a row that a UNH captain has had a season ending injury (Brandon Taylor, ACL '03, Mike Granieri, ACL '04, Alan Tallman, broken arm '05, Corey Graham, broken leg '06). Hopefully just like last season everyone will regroup and take all frustration out on Northeastern. As for the JMU game, I knew we were in trouble when Dave dropped one and Ricky's first pick of the season went for a house call. Better to lose now against a great team than to save a disaterous game like this for December. Again, congrats to JMU (solid team) and I look forwared to getting another shot in December.

Sam Adams
October 16th, 2006, 09:54 AM
Congrats to JMU. Too bad they tried to run up the score, but that is not surprising w/JMU. But to be fair JMU didn't cheat or anything, Mickey just chose to try to score as many points as possible regardless of the score. That is his right to do and its the right of others to criticize that tactic.

Good win JMU!

bandl
October 16th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Congrats to JMU. Too bad they tried to run up the score, but that is not surprising w/JMU. But to be fair JMU didn't cheat or anything, Mickey just chose to try to score as many points as possible regardless of the score. That is his right to do and its the right of others to criticize that tactic.

Good win JMU!

Funny how everyone says "JMU tried to run up the score" but no one says anything about the fact that UNH couldn't stop a simple run up the middle on 4th down. All JMU was doing was trying to keep the ball out of UNH's hands, which, I'm sure you are aware, is a very dangerous and explosive offense that can score very quickly. It's not JMU's fault that UNH couldn't plug up the middle to hold them to a yard or two, let alone keep JMU from running it in for a touchdown. :confused:

Oh wait...I guess the RB should have taken a knee after he passed the first down line, huh? xidiotx

Sam Adams
October 16th, 2006, 10:15 AM
Funny how everyone says "JMU tried to run up the score" but no one says anything about the fact that UNH couldn't stop a simple run up the middle on 4th down. All JMU was doing was trying to keep the ball out of UNH's hands, which, I'm sure you are aware, is a very dangerous and explosive offense that can score very quickly. It's not JMU's fault that UNH couldn't plug up the middle to hold them to a yard or two, let alone keep JMU from running it in for a touchdown. :confused:

Oh wait...I guess the RB should have taken a knee after he passed the first down line, huh? xidiotx


Matthews was doing what he does. That is Mathews' style of play. This season he has beat VMI 45-7; NU 52-14; last year he ran it up on lock haven 56-7; in ' 04 he beat them 62-7; last yr he beat delaware state 65-7. So yeah I think Matthews always try to run it up if he can do so. That's his philosophy: score as many points as you can score. He is entitled to that philosophy and he's obviously been a succesful football coach. Given Mathews' track record, I'd say he was definately trying to run up the score and embarrass UNH. He enjoys winning big and that is precisely what he was trying to do. It is obviously up to UNH to stop the play. But I don't think it was necessary for Matthews to try to run it up.

Believe me I'm not too unhappy about UNH losing.....:smiley_wi

I just don't care for Matthews style and I never have and I enjoy beating JMU like when they came into Amherst last yr ranked #4.:nod: and I love that we hold the series advantage on JMU :nod: But I root for JMU when they play OOC.

Best of luck the rest of the way.

Pards Rule
October 16th, 2006, 10:43 AM
They were trying to score. Probably treying to make the box score pretier for poll voters. Classless! :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2:

Looks like UNH took to that Jack Daniels BEFORE the suggestion was made! And apparently passed out!

UNH 40
October 16th, 2006, 10:49 AM
This garbage about trying to run up the score and wining about it is rediculous. When you play the #1 team in the country at there home you try to put up as many points as you can regardless of whether you are winning or losing. This isn't high school anymore, if it were then I would be very cridical of it. We are talking about college football and trying to serve notice to the rest of your conference and the rest of the country that you are in fact a great team and belong in the top 10 teams in the country. JMU did the right thing by trying to score as many as they can, against the nations top team.

th0m
October 16th, 2006, 10:50 AM
Matthews was doing what he does. That is Mathews' style of play. This season he has beat VMI 45-7; NU 52-14; last year he ran it up on lock haven 56-7; in ' 04 he beat them 62-7; last yr he beat delaware state 65-7. So yeah I think Matthews always try to run it up if he can do so. That's his philosophy: score as many points as you can score. He is entitled to that philosophy and he's obviously been a succesful football coach. Given Mathews' track record, I'd say he was definately trying to run up the score and embarrass UNH. He enjoys winning big and that is precisely what he was trying to do. It is obviously up to UNH to stop the play. But I don't think it was necessary for Matthews to try to run it up.

I know you didn't say that UMass DOESN'T like to run up the score, because you do, just as much as we do:

2006:

Stony Brook: 48-7
W&M: 48-7

2005:

Albany: 40-0

How are these scores different?

Sam Adams
October 16th, 2006, 11:49 AM
We played the 2d & 3d teams for over 1/2 the game against SB & W&M.

Also the situation we are speaking of is specific to the UNH / JMU game.

That is the way Matthews decided to play that situation. That is his philosphy and his choice as HC. I don't agree and I don't agree if UMass does it either or any other team for that matter. In this case I think JMU was running it up and I don't agree with Matthews play selection and decision to go for a score there.

Its a free country, that's simply my opinion. People are entitled to disagree.

Congrats to JMU, the Dukes look like a very good team once again.

Pards Rule
October 16th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I wonder if UNH is still asleep..Its very quiet on here!

bandl
October 16th, 2006, 01:22 PM
We played the 2d & 3d teams for over 1/2 the game against SB & W&M.

Also the situation we are speaking of is specific to the UNH / JMU game.

That is the way Matthews decided to play that situation. That is his philosphy and his choice as HC. I don't agree and I don't agree if UMass does it either or any other team for that matter. In this case I think JMU was running it up and I don't agree with Matthews play selection and decision to go for a score there.

Its a free country, that's simply my opinion. People are entitled to disagree.

Congrats to JMU, the Dukes look like a very good team once again.
DId you see the game? Did you see the play where JMU 'ran up the score'? Against any other defense with a pulse, JMU wouldn't have scored a TD, and they MIGHT have gotten the first down. End of story.

WildcatFan
October 16th, 2006, 01:39 PM
I wonder if UNH is still asleep..Its very quiet on here!
We got beat and will not post excuses:bang:

JMU2K_DukeDawg
October 16th, 2006, 01:46 PM
bandl - this is always the case. Many JMU fans still don't realize it, although botht the coaches and the players are quoted often in the papers:

Every week, same game plan. Run, Run, Run, Pass a few to keep 'em honest, and try a big play pass once in a blue moon (after they stack the box with 9-10 players and a lone safety with a DB to beat).

We crush the teams that don't have the patience or the ability to stop us. Other times we look like we can't move the ball for the life of us. It's not running up the score, it's execution.

I am 50-50 on the notion of leaving the starters in. On one hand, I would like to see them healthy, injury-free and well rested for next week. On the other hand, I do like to see them getting 60 min. of football conditioning to make sure that should we make the playoffs, this team won't be breathing heavy in the 4th quarter.

JMU2K_DukeDawg
October 16th, 2006, 01:49 PM
We got beat and will not post excuses:bang:

That's how it goes sometimes. The worst is losing the close games where a questionable call leaves you bitter for days. For me, easier to swallow a bad loss and game and know that your team will bounce back.

...and your team will bounce back! :thumbsup:

bandl
October 16th, 2006, 01:51 PM
On the other hand, I do like to see them getting 60 min. of football conditioning to make sure that should we make the playoffs, this team won't be breathing heavy in the 4th quarter.
Well-rested later in the game...sorta like what happened in Chatty against Montana in the 2004 NC? :smiley_wi

Pards Rule
October 16th, 2006, 02:03 PM
I agree with that DukeDawg!

BillLuc1982
October 16th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Would love to see YSU play JMU or another Virginia school on the road! To my advantage since I live in Arlington!

UNH_Alum_In_CT
October 16th, 2006, 03:14 PM
I hope everyone noticed that only one UNH person really whined about "running up the score". And that poster has been know to make outrageous comments in the past. So, please take it for what it is.

Personally, at that point of the game I didn't give a rat's arse because UNH had just gift wrapped 14 points for JMU by dropping the perfect snap to the punter and going for it on 4th down deep in their own territory and failing. The game was over, the fat lady was singing.

I saw Mickey and Sean yukking it up before the game so it was pretty obvious they have a good relationship.

This is one UNH fan who can accept what happened. We didn't take advantage of our opportunities which let JMU get ahead and play the game THEY wanted to play. And like a good team should, they pounded us once they got their opportunity. Pretty simple stuff actually. Have to tip my hat to JMU!

JMU-MRD-DAD
October 16th, 2006, 10:20 PM
Matthews was doing what he does. That is Mathews' style of play. This season he has beat VMI 45-7; NU 52-14; last year he ran it up on lock haven 56-7; in ' 04 he beat them 62-7; last yr he beat delaware state 65-7. So yeah I think Matthews always try to run it up if he can do so. That's his philosophy: score as many points as you can score. He is entitled to that philosophy and he's obviously been a succesful football coach. Given Mathews' track record, I'd say he was definately trying to run up the score and embarrass UNH. He enjoys winning big and that is precisely what he was trying to do. It is obviously up to UNH to stop the play. But I don't think it was necessary for Matthews to try to run it up.

Believe me I'm not too unhappy about UNH losing.....:smiley_wi

I just don't care for Matthews style and I never have and I enjoy beating JMU like when they came into Amherst last yr ranked #4.:nod: and I love that we hold the series advantage on JMU :nod: But I root for JMU when they play OOC.

Best of luck the rest of the way.
Last post on this subject.

What's the game plan when you play a lesser opponent like a VMI as you mentioned? Three and out, run 10 yards and take a knee...run clock....don't play your starters after the first quarter....tell the defense to allow yards.....

Get real.....................Every team has someone on their schedule that is a "cupcake." How can the margin of victory be close.

blukeys
October 16th, 2006, 10:33 PM
I hope everyone noticed that only one UNH person really whined about "running up the score". And that poster has been know to make outrageous comments in the past. So, please take it for what it is.

Personally, at that point of the game I didn't give a rat's arse because UNH had just gift wrapped 14 points for JMU by dropping the perfect snap to the punter and going for it on 4th down deep in their own territory and failing. The game was over, the fat lady was singing.

I saw Mickey and Sean yukking it up before the game so it was pretty obvious they have a good relationship.

This is one UNH fan who can accept what happened. We didn't take advantage of our opportunities which let JMU get ahead and play the game THEY wanted to play. And like a good team should, they pounded us once they got their opportunity. Pretty simple stuff actually. Have to tip my hat to JMU!


Well stated. For the record if there is a tighter group of coaches then the A-10 coaches I have yet to see it. They are loyal to each other and unbelievably complimentary at all times.

The Hofstra U. Radio station does a great job of covering A-10 football events and it is obvious that these guys have an immense amount of respect for each other. They bang heads hard during the game but then laugh and joke with each other when the game isn't on.

We can all laugh at MM's hat throwing or KC's sunglasses but the other coaches see beyond that to the job that they all do especially a guy like Laycock and react accordingly.

UNH will be back to the peril of those teams coming up.