Bohl to Wyoming

[Skjellyfetti]

What would you do differently?

I'd make sure I wasn't getting to Boise job first at the very least. Haha.

And, he may have done that... Who knows.

[IBleedYellow]

If he is really trying to steal the coaches and leaves mid playoffs he could set back the program 10 years back to our transition.
This, this is what I am worried about. If he cleans house and everyone goes we'd be just like UND with coaches... Except we like football here.


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[stevdock]

This, this is what I am worried about. If he cleans house and everyone goes we'd be just like UND with coaches... Except we like football here.


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Once again if true, our AD would be very smart to find a step up quickly too.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

This, this is what I am worried about. If he cleans house and everyone goes we'd be just like UND with coaches... Except we like football here.


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Vigen will probably stay...... he was on Babich's staff. Bohl would be crazy not to take Klieman with him. Personally, I would prefer Klieman but I wonder what a DC at Wyo would make? 200-300K?

[Drblankstare]

What would you do differently?
Announce it yourself first, don't allow it to be leaked. Preferably before the playoffs start. I know that coaches are hired guns and they all eventually move on, but the timing is just ****ty.

[SactoHornetFan]

I'm getting sick of these coaches who leave like this, especially when teams' season's are still going. Men like these have no more ethics anymore. And then on top of it we want them educating young minds?!? If any of my kids get recruited by a coach like this I will make sure they never go to school like that. Will refuse to sign the NLI as well as their FAFSA.

Feel for NDSU people.

[eaglewraith]

Announce it yourself first, don't allow it to be leaked. Preferably before the playoffs start. I know that coaches are hired guns and they all eventually move on, but the timing is just ****ty.

I agree the best move probably would have been to announce before the playoffs. Gives NDSU two weeks to figure things out. No idea when they finalized the deal though.

[clenz]

If he announces it he can't coach...keeping it a secret is a no brainer for him...Dane thing if he told Taylor. If Taylor knew it was said he'd have told the players which would have made it public...



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[jmufan]

I think what's most shocking of all this isn't Bohl leaving...it's Wyoming being actively courted by the b12

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How true is that?

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[IBleedYellow]

I agree the best move probably would have been to announce before the playoffs. Gives NDSU two weeks to figure things out. No idea when they finalized the deal though.

Considering WYO just fired their coach six days ago that wouldn't work so well.

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[NDSUSR]

I'm getting sick of these coaches who leave like this, especially when teams' season's are still going. Men like these have no more ethics anymore. And then on top of it we want them educating young minds?!? If any of my kids get recruited by a coach like this I will make sure they never go to school like that. Will refuse to sign the NLI as well as their FAFSA.

Feel for NDSU people.

Apparently with Bohl $$ > Ethics.

This news during playoffs is unforgivable. If true, I wish Bohl misery.

[centennial]

Vigen will probably stay...... he was on Babich's staff. Bohl would be crazy not to take Klieman with him. Personally, I would prefer Klieman but I wonder what a DC at Wyo would make? 200-300K?
Around 250k sounds right, I tried googling it but couldn't find a salary..

[eaglewraith]

Considering WYO just fired their coach six days ago that wouldn't work so well.

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Well there you go.

[marenlee]

I think what's most shocking of all this isn't Bohl leaving...it's Wyoming being actively courted by the b12

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This... BYU also? I still haven't seen anything on this, but it's puzzling.

[clenz]

Considering WYO just fired their coach six days ago that wouldn't work so well.

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This.


A lot of people are saying a lot of **** without taking two seconds to think first

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[Drblankstare]

I agree the best move probably would have been to announce before the playoffs. Gives NDSU two weeks to figure things out. No idea when they finalized the deal though.
Bison fans shouldn't pretend to be shocked about the move. Successful coaches will always have offers to move up. I think the fact it's Wyoming and the fact that it's the playoffs is what is stunning to everyone.

[blackbeard]

Here is Pete Roussel with coachingsearch a few hours ago:

Pete Roussel ‏@coachingsearch 1h (https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/409513735007375360) Got the tip about Craig Bohl this afternoon. Thus, my tweet, Tried to confirm it with a 2nd source for hours. Nice work by @BFeldmanCBS (https://twitter.com/BFeldmanCBS)


And early today he had obviously heard something but couldn't confirm it:

Pete Roussel ‏@coachingsearch 5h (https://twitter.com/coachingsearch/status/409460985246654464) It wouldn't surprise me if Craig Bohl emerges as the guy at Wyoming. Presser tomorrow.

[knucklehead]

I personally think the right thing is to wait until the team's season is ALL the way over. It is wrong to leave young me who have worked their butts off the whole year to get to this point in the middle of the playoffs.

[clenz]

This... BYU also? I still haven't seen anything on this, but it's puzzling.

Agreed...I live in b12 country with a school that files realignment client because they are not a school that would fair well in trying to find a new home. I've heard BYU before but NEVER Wyoming

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[eaglewraith]

I personally think the right thing is to wait until the team's season is ALL the way over. It is wrong to leave young me who have worked their butts off the whole year to get to this point in the middle of the playoffs.

Not feasible, unless NDSU were to have lost today.

[clenz]

I personally think the right thing is to wait until the team's season is ALL the way over. It is wrong to leave young me who have worked their butts off the whole year to get to this point in the middle of the playoffs.

That sets him up to fail at his new job...putting him a month behind in recruiting

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[BisonFan02]

Agreed...I live in b12 country with a school that files realignment client because they are not a school that would fair well in trying to find a new home. I've heard BYU before but NEVER Wyoming

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With Wyo leaving the MWC....you know what that means right? :D

[SactoHornetFan]

Apparently with Bohl $$ > Ethics.

This news during playoffs is unforgivable. If true, I wish Bohl misery.

No amount of $$ will ever allow someone to recapture their ethics/character etc once they lose it. Pity their souls.

[IBleedYellow]

With Wyo leaving the MWC....you know what that means right? :D

Damnit... You made me laugh.

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[jacoj21]

Watch any Bison football game highlight video ending, press conference, Craig Bohl Show, etc., and very often Bohl talks about how this team is family. They play as a family, and they trust each other like family. The way this all went down is not what someone does to their family IMO.

[BisonFan02]

Damnit... You made me laugh.

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PuMp It Up BiT**eS!!!!!! :D (I'm still going through the 5 stages of grief...time to go to bed, but that may not happen now).

[Hammerhead]

NDSU to the MWC!


With Wyo leaving the MWC....you know what that means right? :D

[knucklehead]

Not feasible, unless NDSU were to have lost today.

It's feasible if the coach decides to wait for a job that will wait for them. Bohl would have surely had other chances After the playoffs.

[Texas]

Watch any Bison football game highlight video ending, press conference, Craig Bohl Show, etc., and very often Bohl talks about how this team is family. They play as a family, and they trust each other like family. The way this all went down is not what someone does to their family IMO.
That's the life of a successful Football coach.
You don't tell your boss you are job hunting do you?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I wish Coach Bohl good luck in Wyoming. Not the best timing for sure but he has done great things at NDSU and I give him respect and kudos for that.

If I was GT, I would be lobbying Coach Klieman hard to stay and be the HC.

[IBleedYellow]

PuMp It Up BiT**eS!!!!!! :D (I'm still going through the 5 stages of grief...time to go to bed, but that may not happen now).

I finally hit the acceptance stage.

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[clenz]

It's feasible if the coach decides to wait for a job that will wait for them. Bohl would have surely had other chances After the playoffs.

Better? You mean trends with better records?

What about finding s good fit for you and your family? Maybe that was a big part of it

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[Drblankstare]

Honestly any coach that talks about his team being a family is a joke. The players might feel like a family, but the Coaches care about the paycheck. It's a sad but true reality. Players can't move to any team they want without penalty, but coaches can come and go as they please.

[eaglewraith]

It's feasible if the coach decides to wait for a job that will wait for them. Bohl would have surely had other chances After the playoffs.

You'd never get a job that way. A program can't afford to have a coach wait until the beginning of January to take a job. There's recruits that have to be contacted and a staff that has to be put in place. After the championship game for FCS, there's only like 2 weeks of contact allowed before Signing Day. At that point, you have a coach coming in cold with no knowledge of his recruiting needs as well.

What you are talking about is just not possible. Maybe in fairy land, but not in college football.

[NDSUSR]

Better? You mean trends with better records?

What about finding s good fit for you and your family? Maybe that was a big part of it

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Going to Wyoming isnt a good fit for him or his family. Its all about the money.

[Bison56]

I finally hit the acceptance stage.

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I can accept him leaving its just the whole Wyoming thing that blows my mind, but if they are going to the big 12 it makes more sense.

[PaladinFan]

Just the common cycle of successful football programs. Furman lost Bobby Johnson to Vanderbilt (along with a lot of the coaching staff) after our 2001 title appearance. I believe that was the same season Paul Johnson left Georgia Southern for Navy. It stings, but you move on.

[marenlee]

I wish Coach Bohl good luck in Wyoming. Not the best timing for sure but he has done great things at NDSU and I give him respect and kudos for that.

If I was GT, I would be lobbying Coach Klieman hard to stay and be the HC.

Hypothetically, if Coach K were to stay and be HC, how would Vigen handle that considering how long he has been here and how short K has been?

[Drblankstare]

Buttwyoming

[slostang]

NDSU fans should be saying thank you and good luck. He did sooooooooo much for your university.

[FargoBison]

Brian Shawn(NDSU TV play by play guy) thinks Klieman will be the next head coach.

[Bison56]

You'd never get a job that way. A program can't afford to have a coach wait until the beginning of January to take a job. There's recruits that have to be contacted and a staff that has to be put in place. After the championship game for FCS, there's only like 2 weeks of contact allowed before Signing Day. At that point, you have a coach coming in cold with no knowledge of his recruiting needs as well.

What you are talking about is just not possible. Maybe in fairy land, but not in college football.
I want to live in fairy land.

[clenz]

Going to Wyoming isnt a good fit for him or his family. Its all about the money.

You don't know that.

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[SIUSalukiFan]

Just the common cycle of successful football programs. Furman lost Bobby Johnson to Vanderbilt (along with a lot of the coaching staff) after our 2001 title appearance. I believe that was the same season Paul Johnson left Georgia Southern for Navy. It stings, but you move on.

Southern Illinois lost Jerry Kill to Northern Illinois after losing to Delaware in the 2007 semifinals.

There are one hundred more stories like that.

I'm guessing Dino Babers at Eastern Illinois will move on, too.

[Drblankstare]

NDSU fans should be saying thank you and good luck. He did sooooooooo much for your university.
I wish him all the best, but if your going to cheat at least cheat up. Don't nail the fat girl in the mail room :)

[centennial]

You'd never get a job that way. A program can't afford to have a coach wait until the beginning of January to take a job. There's recruits that have to be contacted and a staff that has to be put in place. After the championship game for FCS, there's only like 2 weeks of contact allowed before Signing Day. At that point, you have a coach coming in cold with no knowledge of his recruiting needs as well.

What you are talking about is just not possible. Maybe in fairy land, but not in college football.
I have to agree with you, the timing sucks. Much harder to move in January.. still all this could have been handled much better. When coach won a NC at NDSU he makes 400kish with all the endorsements and bonuses. He will make 1.2mil (rumored 1.5-2 and private jet) at Wyoming. 3 years of that kind of money will set him up for life..

[Twentysix]

Brian Shawn(NDSU TV play by play guy) thinks Klieman will be the next head coach.

Hey man, I said it first... just cause I am not on tv... sheesh.

[NDSUSR]

18635

Leadership is a privilege to better the lives of others. It is not an opportunity to satisfy personal greed.
Founding member of FU Bohl club.

[robsnotes4u]

I can accept him leaving its just the whole Wyoming thing that blows my mind, but if they are going to the big 12 it makes more sense.

Just goes to show you, what FCS is to most. To leave a premier program in the FCS to a nothing program in the FBS. Sad for all the Bison.

[jacoj21]

That's the life of a successful Football coach.
You don't tell your boss you are job hunting do you?

Only job I ever left was for an internship regarding my major in a different city that I informed my boss of basically once I started working there. I also never considered, implied, inferred, etc. my boss and colleagues as family.

I never kidded myself into believing that Bohl would've been the coach at NDSU forever. I, as well as many others, are grateful for what he accomplished here, but some people will have that sour taste in their mouth about him leaving, especially like this.

[Twentysix]

I have to agree with you, the timing sucks. Much harder to move in January.. still all this could have been handled much better. When coach won a NC at NDSU he makes 400kish with all the endorsements and bonuses. He will make 1.2mil (rumored 1.5-2 and private jet) at Wyoming. 3 years of that kind of money will set him up for life..

And if he some how pulls it off, he could jump to a legit team and make boatloads of money. And if he fails horribly and gets fired after 3 years, he will still have 10-15 years worth of salary at NDSU.

[Bisonator]

You don't know that.

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Considering Bohls wife is from Fargo and his son is going to college across the river I don't see how it would be better family situation in Wyo.

[NDSUSR]

Considering Bohls wife is from Fargo and his son is going to college across the river I don't see how it would be better family situation in Wyo.

Subtract the $ = stay in Fargo, like you contractually agreed to.

[Bison56]

Contracts mean nothing other than how much money you will make and thats in any job.

[Hammerhead]

Sure, I'm disappointed he's leaving, but I wish him well. Great coaches have come and gone in the past and probably will forever.



NDSU fans should be saying thank you and good luck. He did sooooooooo much for your university.

[clenz]

Only job I ever left was for an internship regarding my major in a different city that I informed my boss of basically once I started working there. I also never considered, implied, inferred, etc. my boss and colleagues as family.

I never kidded myself into believing that Bohl would've been the coach at NDSU forever. I, as well as many others, are grateful for what he accomplished here, but some people will have that sour taste in their mouth about him leaving, especially like this.

I've left two jobs...I told neither of them until I put my two weeks in....I also made sure they weren't contracted by any place that I applied too until I said it was okay to do so

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[NDSUSR]

Contracts mean nothing other than how much money you will make and thats in any job.

It means Bohl writes NDSU a check for 100k.

[Twentysix]

Sure, I'm disappointed he's leaving, but I wish him well. Great coaches have come and gone in the past and probably will forever.

Until teams are coached by Strategic Football playing algorhythms, :p

[Twentysix]

This thread got to be 31 pages in 2 1/2 hours. Impressive.

[clenz]

It means Bohl writes NDSU a check for 100k.

Pretty easy to do when he just sextupled/sectupled his base salary.

Also Wyoming, and their donors will cover that

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[slostang]

This thread got to be 31 pages in 2 1/2 hours. Impressive.
Impressive coach.

[jacoj21]

I've left two jobs...I told neither of them until I put my two weeks in....I also made sure they weren't contracted by any place that I applied too until I said it was okay to do so

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cool

[No_Skill]

So I just got home from Fargo. This thread seems interesting....

Best of luck. Glad we had him while we did.

[FargoBison]

This thread got to be 31 pages in 2 1/2 hours. Impressive.

Well Bisonville crashed...thankfully AGS is here to save the day.

[clenz]

cool

Point being you don't broadcast that ****....ever...for any reason

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[Drblankstare]

The biggest question is, Who leaves with him and when.

[Bisonwinagn]

It means Bohl writes NDSU a check for 100k.

That's a joke if that's all it is...It should be a minimum of 3X his gross salary.

[Twentysix]

That's a joke if that's all it is...It should be a minimum of 3X his gross salary.

You are kidding yourself if you think Bohl is writing a check. The school he is going to is likely paying him a million+ a year... they are going to foot the bill. $100,000 to NDSU signed Wyoming ;) (yeah, they will probably sign it with a gd winky face at the end!)

[Drblankstare]

Well Bisonville crashed...thankfully AGS is here to save the day.
Bisonville was probably burned to the ground, flipped over cop cars Detriot style

[clenz]

That's a joke if that's all it is...It should be a minimum of 3X his gross salary.

Why?

Other than your pissed your coach is leaving

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[No_Skill]

Point being you don't broadcast that ****....ever...for any reason

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It hurts right now so people will take it personally. The reality is, you have to lookout for numero uno ... no one else will.

[clenz]

The biggest question is, Who leaves with him and when.

It could be the assistants stuck around until after the playoffs before joining...or it could be a mass exodus....like the Jews from Egypt

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[centennial]

http://player.radioloyalty.com/station/8547.html
Local fargo media talking about Bohl leaving.

He says Jim Kramer will be the 1st to poached off..

[jacoj21]

Point being you don't broadcast that ****....ever...for any reason

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My bad. Just answering a question directed at me. Didn't know it was a no-no.

[clenz]

It hurts right now so people will take it personally. The reality is, you have to lookout for numero uno ... no one else will.

Agree completely.

I agree the timing sucks, and maybe it wasn't supposed to be out yet. However, the reality of the fbs world and recruiting means he has to go now or he's completely ****ed recruiting this year

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[Twentysix]

It could be the assistants stuck around until after the playoffs before joining...or it could be a mass exodus....like the Jews from Egypt

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Rumor is the entire staff is going with him after NDSU wins the Natty or is knocked out of the playoffs. (but it is a real rumor, not one from a journalist) It allegedly comes from an assistant coaches family.

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Agree completely.

I agree the timing sucks, and maybe it wasn't supposed to be out yet. However, the reality of the fbs world and recruiting means he has to go now or he's completely ****ed recruiting this year

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It was supposed to be out tommorow at 6pm.... this isn't really that huge of a leak imo.

[centennial]

Says he will leave maybe 1-2 coaches.. rest he is taking away.
Edit: Maybe not.. he might take 1 or 2.

[NDSUSR]

So much for loyalty to community, **** Bohl.

[clenz]

My bad. Just answering a question directed at me. Didn't know it was a no-no.

It's why you will never see a coach do/say anything other than "no comment", "just focusing on the next opponent", "dedicated to this program at this time", etc...

While I was looking for other jobs I made sure to completely cover my tracks do I didn't give my current employer a reason to terminate me. NDSU wouldn't have fired him but it would be suicide for any coach to admit he is looking at other jobs publicly. It's already used against a ton of coaches that "they are just their till the next big job"in recruiting. Imagine how hard it would be to recruit saying "I'm looking for a new job"

2 seconds of thinking brings the logical conclusion out of that

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[Sycamore62]

I'm behind on this thread and at this rate I'll finish it after he wins his first game at Wyoming.

[Twentysix]

So much for loyalty to community, **** Bohl.

xsmhx

That is a ridiculous way to approach this situation.

[Bisonwinagn]

This makes more sense that everyone will stay through the end of the season...then he will pull a Jerry Kill and take everyone to Wyoming.

[Twentysix]

It's why you will never see a coach do/say anything other than "no comment", "just focusing on the next opponent", "dedicated to this program at this time", etc...

While I was looking for other jobs I made sure to completely cover my tracks do I didn't give my current employer a reason to terminate me. NDSU wouldn't have fired him but it would be suicide for any coach to admit he is looking at other jobs publicly. It's already used against a ton of coaches that "they are just their till the next big job"in recruiting. Imagine how hard it would be to recruit saying "I'm looking for a new job"

2 seconds of thinking brings the logical conclusion out of that

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NDSU also stands to make money by not firing him.

[clenz]

Says he will leave maybe 1-2 coaches.. rest he is taking away.
Edit: Maybe not.. he might take 1 or 2.

Right now...I'd bet he is leaving some there for the rest of the playoffsthen poaching them if he is only taking 2 right now

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[Twentysix]

This makes more sense that everyone will stay through the end of the season...then he will pull a Jerry Kill and take everyone to Wyoming.

I am pretty sure Bohl is gone. Everyone else will stay until NDSU is done with 2013.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Yikes, if most of the staff leaves....

Big pay increase for all of the assistants. Cannot blame them.


Bring back Caruso or Hazelton.

[centennial]

Right now...I'd bet he is leaving some there for the rest of the playoffsthen poaching them if he is only taking 2 right now

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The radio show thinks that might be the case. He takes 1-2 now and tries to poach the rest later..

[slostang]

So much for loyalty to community, **** Bohl.
So you will NEVER leave a job for a higher paying one??? Give me a break. The man brought you back to back national championships and has you ready to make a run at a third. He left the program better than he found it. To say anything but thank you and good luck is wrong.

[NDSUSR]

xsmhx

That is a ridiculous way to approach this situation.

It is what it is. Bohl goes in the radio weekly saying he wont leave and wants to stay in Fargo.
Its all bull****, and I call them like I see them.
Bohl is welcome to leave, just not like this. Its on him.
He said he would stay, broke his word. In athletics and life in general, your word is important.

[clenz]

The radio show thinks that might be the case. He takes 1-2 now and tries to poach the rest later..

I'm not sure it'd be poaching as much as an agreed upon, in secret, deal between the coaches and maybe even Taylor, now that I think of it

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[jacoj21]

It's why you will never see a coach do/say anything other than "no comment", "just focusing on the next opponent", "dedicated to this program at this time", etc...

While I was looking for other jobs I made sure to completely cover my tracks do I didn't give my current employer a reason to terminate me. NDSU wouldn't have fired him but it would be suicide for any coach to admit he is looking at other jobs publicly. It's already used against a ton of coaches that "they are just their till the next big job"in recruiting. Imagine how hard it would be to recruit saying "I'm looking for a new job"

2 seconds of thinking brings the logical conclusion out of that

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Gotcha. Assumed you had a problem with my reply to Texas.

[NDSUSR]

So you will NEVER leave a job for a higher paying one??? Give me a break. The man brought you back to back national championships and has you ready to make a run at a third. He left the program better than he found it. To say anything but thank you and good luck is wrong.
If I quit like this I would be unemployable in my field.

[slostang]

If I quit like this I would be unemployable in my field.
Different field. Welcome to the world of athletics. I still believe NDSU fans should be saying thank you.

[Professor Chaos]

Southern Illinois lost Jerry Kill to Northern Illinois after losing to Delaware in the 2007 semifinals.

There are one hundred more stories like that.

I'm guessing Dino Babers at Eastern Illinois will move on, too.
Therein lies the difference. I don't think any reasonable fan would blame Bohl for taking a job with that kind of pay hike but to do it in middle of a potentially historic playoff run is what's burning us. Had Furman beat the Bison today I wouldn't blame Bohl one bit for bolting tomorrow. Him leaving in the midst of this playoff run is forgivable given the circumstances but if he raids the staff less than a week before a game it would be a complete chicken **** move on his part and a slap in the face of the school that gave him the opportunity to resurrect his career.

[Grizo406]

Now, I don't feel so bad about the timing of Joe Glenn's departure from Missoula, and the Griz, for Wyoming!

Regardless, I would have felt A LOT better if this thread's title was: "Bohl to Missoula"!!

Tough break for Bison Nation, but I think you guys will do just fine!xnodx

[Darlinikki150]

**** Bohl. Just sick for the players. Wat a dirty move at this time in this season. Totally disappointing.

[NDSUSR]

Therein lies the difference. I don't think any reasonable fan would blame Bohl for taking a job with that kind of pay hike but to do it in middle of a potentially historic playoff run is what's burning us. Had Furman beat the Bison today I wouldn't blame Bohl one bit for bolting tomorrow. Him leaving in the midst of this playoff run is forgivable given the circumstances but if he raids the staff less than a week before a game it would be a complete chicken **** move on his part and a slap in the face of the school that gave him the opportunity to resurrect his career.
Not to mention the slap in the face to the PLAYERS who made him what he is now.

[clenz]

If I quit like this I would be unemployable in my field.

The thing is....coaching/sports is unlike any job field there is.

Also, as dedicated as you are to your employer...remember there are tens of thousands of you that they can hire if they no longer want/need you. You are nothing other than a pawn....the difference between the sports world and our world is that coaches know it and use it. They aren't fans they have no real loyalty beyond the pay check the vast majority of the time. That's why fans can't understand why a coach would leave for any reason

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[SactoHornetFan]

Different field. Welcome to the world of athletics. I still believe NDSU fans should be saying thank you.

And you want these people who are coaching our young adult children that this normal business behavior? Especially since maybe only 1-2% of all student athletes will work their professional lives college athletics? No thank you.

[Southern Bison]

So you will NEVER leave a job for a higher paying one??? Give me a break. The man brought you back to back national championships and has you ready to make a run at a third. He left the program better than he found it. To say anything but thank you and good luck is wrong.

NDSU also gave him a chance at redemption...let's not forget his transgressions at Nebraska. It was a win-win for both parties and each one was redeemed by the other working together. For it to end in this fashion is what is most disturbing and spiteful.

[NDSUSR]

**** Bohl. Just sick for the players. Wat a dirty move at this time in this season. Totally disappointing.
I'm glad that I'm not the only one calling this what it is.

[Bisonoline]

This isnt a joke, its happening and it sucks. I am so pissed off right now!

I dont blame a coach for leaving that his choice but damn the timing and blindsiding this whole program is total dick move. Hope that check was big enough...just sick.

Didnt even tell the team. He just crapped all over the players and NDSU. I dont mind the him leaving. That happens. But you dont crap on your players in the middle of a championship run and leave them hanging out to dry. So much for the integrity he used to talk so much about.

[marenlee]

This situation makes me wonder why I invest so much money and emotion into this game just to get punched in the gut by someone who should not affect me whatsoever. I'll eventually sleep this off and get over it, but it hurts.

[clenz]

And you want these people who are coaching our young adult children that this normal business behavior? Especially since maybe only 1-2% of all student athletes will work their professional lives college athletics? No thank you.

Are you in the working field at all m

This is exactly how the business/real world work...

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I'm glad that I'm not the only one calling this what it is.


Bison fans are in shock and hurting but Coach Bohl did a great job at NDSU. I say, good luck to him.

The next coach has some really big shoes to fill.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Didnt even tell the team. He just crapped all over the players and NDSU. I dont mind the him leaving. That happens. But you dont crap on your players in the middle of a championship run and leave them hanging out to dry. So much for the integrity he used to talk so much about.


Ya, he should have told the players for sure.

[Twentysix]

Everyone must remember the game was really early in the day. It is entirely possible Bohl was going to call a team meeting at 8 or 9 and tell them... We have been talking about this for almost 4 hours, it isn't like 4am right now.

[Bisonoline]

So you will NEVER leave a job for a higher paying one??? Give me a break. The man brought you back to back national championships and has you ready to make a run at a third. He left the program better than he found it. To say anything but thank you and good luck is wrong.

Bullsh__t. NDSU took a chance on him when no one else would. Then he craps on them like this? Leaving under the cover of darkness without addressing his players. wow. Flight leaving Fargo tomorrow 8.11am for wy. Flight plan was filed.

[NDSUSR]

The thing is....coaching/sports is unlike any job field there is.

Also, as dedicated as you are to your employer...remember there are tens of thousands of you that they can hire if they no longer want/need you. You are nothing other than a pawn....the difference between the sports world and our world is that coaches know it and use it. They aren't fans they have no real loyalty beyond the pay check the vast majority of the time. That's why fans can't understand why a coach would leave for any reason

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Not really, I own my Company. I do what maybe 20 people in the world can do as well as I do. I leverage my contracts as much as I can, but I don't quit my clients when better money offers itself up (which happens often).
Bohl made a bitch move and it will haunt him, mark my words. Financially a good move, but his career is on the downward side of the bell curve.
Bohl will never win another Championship. Yep you heard it here first. :)

Bison will be fine, its a rebuilding phase anyway. Bohl bailed on his players and that's what stings.

[RichH2]

A great coach who built a great program. Kinda classless way to move on but really how many other times have we seen the same over the last 10 yrs. May be the way to conduct business nowadays but it still could have been handled tactfully. Fell for Bison fans. They deserved better especially from a coach who preached better conduct.

[SactoHornetFan]

Are you in the working field at all m

This is exactly how the business/real world work...

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I'm in a licensed business field where this would be an ethical violation and can cost people their licenses on an ethics violation. So maybe you should do a little more critical thinking before speaking.

[Gil Dobie]

Bison fans are in shock and hurting but Coach Bohl did a great job at NDSU. I say, good luck to him.

The next coach has some really big shoes to fill.

Stick around, you will see a lot of coaches come and go. It's part of the college football game. Mudra left, Erhardt left, Morton left. None of these guys did anything for me except coach at the school I attended. Surprised but not hurt and not shocked.

[centennial]

Bullsh__t. NDSU took a chance on him when no one else would. Then he craps on them like this? Leaving under the cover of darkness without addressing his players. wow. Flight leaving Fargo tomorrow 8.11am for wy. Flight plan was filed.
They have a team meeting early tomorrow morning at 9am. If Craig is really on that flight then he won't even address the team personally before he leaves..

[Bisonwinagn]

Everyone must remember the game was really early in the day. It is entirely possible Bohl was going to call a team meeting at 8 or 9 and tell them... We have been talking about this for almost 4 hours, it isn't like 4am right now.

That's obviously not true or he would have told the players after the game about the meeting. That's the part the still puzzles me is I would have expected him to schedule a meeting sometime tomorrow morning before the Wyoming Press conference.

[Professor Chaos]

So much for loyalty to community, **** Bohl.
Calm down man, if he's allowing the assistants to finish the season he's doing the university a solid. The guy is making a decision that is best for him and you can't judge him for it fairly without being in his shoes. NDSU will be a very attractive position for other coaches around the country and I'm sure a very good staff will brought in. All is not lost (except for the 2014 NDSU recruiting class) for the Bison, I'd expect them to continue to be a premier FCS program under a new coaching staff.

[Darlinikki150]

Everyone must remember the game was really early in the day. It is entirely possible Bohl was going to call a team meeting at 8 or 9 and tell them... We have been talking about this for almost 4 hours, it isn't like 4am right now.

Do u really believe that? He had grown men crying at Senior day. This shows a total lack of respect for the players so he can go rot in Wyoming for all I care now. Bison Nation will rally the boys and the head line will be Bison 3peat without Coach! Oh I'm just do angry!

[NDSUstudent]

This isnt a joke, its happening and it sucks. I am so pissed off right now!

I dont blame a coach for leaving that his choice but damn the timing and blindsiding this whole program is total dick move. Hope that check was big enough...just sick.

hope he takes saul with him

[NDSUSR]

They have a team meeting early tomorrow morning at 9am. If Craig is really on that flight then he won't even address the team personally before he leaves..

If hes not at that meeting to address the team its unforgivable.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Stick around, you will see a lot of coaches come and go. It's part of the college football game. Mudra left, Erhardt left, Morton left. None of these guys did anything for me except coach at the school I attended. Surprised but not hurt and not shocked.


Never said it wasn't part of the game, the shocking part is the timing with the playoff run.

[Bisonoline]

I can accept him leaving its just the whole Wyoming thing that blows my mind, but if they are going to the big 12 it makes more sense.

There are talks that WY may be going to the Big12. May be that was the juice that tipped him over--besides the 1.2 million.

[FargoBison]

hope he takes saul with him

You have no idea how lucky NDSU is to have a guy like Saul. If he left he sure as hell wouldn't do it like this.

[centennial]

Calm down man, if he's allowing the assistants to finish the season he's doing the university a solid. The guy is making a decision that is best for him and you can't judge him for it fairly without being in his shoes. NDSU will be a very attractive position for other coaches around the country and I'm sure a very good staff will brought in. All is not lost (except for the 2014 NDSU recruiting class) for the Bison, I'd expect them to continue to be a premier FCS program under a new coaching staff.

This might be one day where I agree with Lakes. As a FCS program we cannot retain coaches who bring us success..


There are talks that WY may be going to the Big12. May be that was the juice that tipped him over--besides the 1.2 million.
1.5-2 million and a private jet.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

hope he takes saul with him


Agree.

Saul is way over rated.

[Twentysix]

Do u really believe that? He had grown men crying at Senior day. This shows a total lack of respect for the players so he can go rot in Wyoming for all I care now. Bison Nation will rally the boys and the head line will be Bison 3peat without Coach! Oh I'm just do angry!

Sure why not. You are way to emotional over a football coach.

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This might be one day where I agree with Lakes. As a FCS program we cannot retain coaches who bring us success..

Meh, MWC teams can't either. Their is always a step higher on the food chain.

FCS>>MAC/Sun belt/MWC>>legit bcs conference>>NFL.

[NDSUSR]

Do u really believe that? He had grown men crying at Senior day. This shows a total lack of respect for the players so he can go rot in Wyoming for all I care now. Bison Nation will rally the boys and the head line will be Bison 3peat without Coach! Oh I'm just do angry!

I agree. I am mad as hell at Bohl for the way this was done. I get leaving, but not like a bitch in the night.
NDSU players deserve better than this.

[clenz]

If hes not at that meeting to address the team its unforgivable.

Tough to be at a meeting in Fargo at when he will be almost to Casper by 9...

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[gofurman]

Has a coach ever left his team for another job in the middle of a playoff run before?

Paul Johnson at Georgia Southern did the same thing (well, word got out at that time)... Prior to playing ...Furman. Odd. I wish NDSU all the best and honestly (though I don't know what Wyoming pays?) would have thought Bohl could wait for better. Furmans 2001 National Title game coach (Bobby Johnson) went to Vanderbilt which I would consider above Wyoming probably just bc you play in the SEC at least? I would think Bohl could have waited for more... But what do i know. Maybe they offered a ton o'money. still odd timing?

[gregatim]

For those sympathizing with Bohl saying this is a business and he didn't owe the players, university, or fans anything more, I say fine. But then we get to treat him the same and don't owe him any more. I for one am not going to thank him or wish him well. I wish him miserable failure. It's a business, and in all reality, he'll be going after some of the same recruits as we will. And for not manning up to your players, well, rot in hell you coward!!!! He owed them everything!!!

[Twentysix]

Tough to be at a meeting in Fargo at when he will be almost to Casper by 9...

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What is in casper? Wyoming is in Lairmie.

[clenz]

What is in casper? Wyoming is in Lairmie.

****...meant Laramie...don't know why I said Casper

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[Twentysix]

For those sympathizing with Bohl saying this is a business and he didn't owe the players, university, or fans anything more, I say fine. But then we get to treat him the same and don't owe him any more. I for one am not going to thank him or wish him well. I wish him miserable failure. It's a business, and in all reality, he'll be going after some of the same recruits as we will. And for not manning up to your players, well, rot in hell you coward!!!! He owed them everything!!!

Lol, so salty. You owe him nothing, he owes you nothing.

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****...meant Laramie...don't know why I said Casper

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You are the fourth person I have seen say Wyoming is in Casper tonight. I was thinking there was something going on that I don't know about.

[clenz]

Rot in he ll...?

Dude...take a step back.

Way overboard

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[Darlinikki150]

Sure why not. You are way to emotional over a football coach.

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Meh, MWC teams can't either. Their is always a step higher on the food chain.

FCS>>MAC/Sun belt/MWC>>legit bcs conference>>NFL.

Of course I'm emotional, that's what die hard fans are. You love your school and football team. Its the emotion thst makes the Bison Nation strong. I'm fine w him pursuing his career but not in this way. Not tell his players, who literally shed tears for him on Senior Day. Its a dirty move and he can suck a tailpipe.

[Bisonator]

Step away from the ledge people. The players are probably handling it better then the fans. Coaches come and go the program will live on. It may stumble but it will survive and eventually thrive. Once a Bison always a Bison!

[clenz]

Lol, so salty. You owe him nothing, he owes you nothing.

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You are the fourth person I have seen say Wyoming is in Casper tonight. I was thinking there was something going on that I don't know about.

Probably why I said Casper. I've been to Wyomings campus

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[Tubakat2014]

I think it's about time players stop looking to coaches for motivation and inspiration. Trust and follow the game plan, absorb all the knowledge and wisdom you can from the coaches you have, but can an FCS or FBS football player really count on their coaches to actually be there for them? Can you really forge emotional bonds with someone that could be gone in a couple months time?

I know that sounds needlessly cynical, but Bohl is the last coach I would have ever expected to do something like this. It really opened my eyes to how cold and calculated the coaching carousel really is. Heck, I give Fritz a week before somebody poaches him.

I still wish the best for Bohl at Wyoming. We can't lose sight of what he did for NDSU and ultimately, the FCS as a whole. But this proves that at least in the FCS, no coach is ever certain to stay, no matter how close they are to a "dream" situation.

[Twentysix]

Of course I'm emotional, that's what die hard fans are. You love your school and football team. Its the emotion thst makes the Bison Nation strong. I'm fine w him pursuing his career but not in this way. Not tell his players, who literally shed tears for him on Senior Day. Its a dirty move and he can suck a tailpipe.

Lol, I am about as diehard as they come, and it goes way beyond football, hell I have been granted scholarship money for my diehard fandom, that doesn't mean you can't be logical. Some of the posts on here sound like people are homicidal.

[Bisonwinagn]

For those sympathizing with Bohl saying this is a business and he didn't owe the players, university, or fans anything more, I say fine. But then we get to treat him the same and don't owe him any more. I for one am not going to thank him or wish him well. I wish him miserable failure. It's a business, and in all reality, he'll be going after some of the same recruits as we will. And for not manning up to your players, well, rot in hell you coward!!!! He owed them everything!!!

I agree I hope he fails at recruiting and in the MWC. If they go to the Big 12 I may root for him again, but until then he is our rival and competitor.

[clenz]

Of course I'm emotional, that's what die hard fans are. You love your school and football team. Its the emotion thst makes the Bison Nation strong. I'm fine w him pursuing his career but not in this way. Not tell his players, who literally shed tears for him on Senior Day. Its a dirty move and he can suck a tailpipe.

You, and many others, are letting this affect you way more than it should....

Go rub one out, take an ambien, go to bed and reset in the morning

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[NDSUstudent]

You have no idea how lucky NDSU is to have a guy like Saul. If he left he sure as hell wouldn't do it like this.

bwahahaha

[The Ville]

Wyoming has to be worse than NDSU, I know there's that potential of turning a program around and then you're in the FBS to really go somewhere but I just can't see it happening. Like Montana coach to UNLV, some FCS programs are just not worth leaving if you're really not going to a better place despite the FCS/FBS titles

[Wyoming]

What makes you guys think it was someone at Wyoming that leaked this?Also, great hire for us...

[NDSUSR]

if he's allowing the assistants to finish the season he's doing the university a solid.

Allowing? It shouldn't even be permitted. As weak as non-compete agreements are, the morality and ethics clauses in most contracts expressly forbid it.
If they want to follow Bohl down the rabbit hole for a few years worth of silver dollars before they head to highschool programs that's fine by me.

Look dont get me wrong, I am all about me and financial goals. But I do have morals and ethics, something Bohl claimed were his backbone.
I understand the timing and the decision, I just dont condone it. Personally I would have waited for #3 and a better offer after the season was over.
Bohl had a very narrow margin for making a decision, his greed overrode his morality.

Simply stated he lacks what he demands from his players.

[clenz]

Lol, I am about as diehard as they come, and it goes way beyond football, hell I have been granted scholarship money for my diehard fandom, that doesn't mean you can't be logical. Some of the posts on here sound like people are homicidal.

It really is sad to watch people wish death, in a round about way, upon him for taking another job.

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[bonarae]

This is in total contrast to how/what the Ivies do to their football coaches... look at Bagnoli and Murphy. They have had good programs at Penn and Harvard the past 20 or so years but they are still loyal to their programs and couldn't really leave for anything better (if there are still any), despite Murphy being on the low end of the Ivy standings until around the start of this current millennium and Bagnoli having hard times as well. Was Teevens in a similar situation towards the end of his first Dartmouth stint? Meanwhile, the coaches who are at the low end of the Ivy standings (Columbia, Cornell, etc.) last usually 2-3 years before being replaced by another.

[centennial]

Probably why I said Casper. I've been to Wyomings campus

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Clenz you seem happy about him leaving. As are the griz, cat, eagles, sela, and even Iowa state football boards..
In my opinion this is a loss for FCS.

[jacoj21]

You are way to emotional over a football coach.

It's hard not to be. Bohl-coached Bison football teams are the ones I grew up watching.
Could you imagine, during the '91-'92 college basketball season Coach K from Duke taking a NBA job in the middle of the Blue Devils' playoff run to their 2nd consecutive championship?

[Squealofthepig]

There are talks that WY may be going to the Big12. May be that was the juice that tipped him over--besides the 1.2 million.

Any source on that? Trying to find but just have some vague rumors from weeks/months ago. (I grew up on Big 8 football, so this would be interesting).

[Professor Chaos]

If he's not even going to address his former players before bolting I'll lose a ton of respect for him. If he can't delay getting his payday for an extra hour or two to give the guys who've poured out their heart and soul for him the courtesy of a face-to-face meeting to explain his decision and give his well wishes he's got a lot lacking when it comes to personal integrity.

[Wyoming]

Any source on that? Trying to find but just have some vague rumors from weeks/months ago. (I grew up on Big 8 football, so this would be interesting).


Talks of going to the big 12 are completely false.

[gotts]

This is in total contrast to how/what the Ivies do to their football coaches... look at Bagnoli and Murphy. They have had good programs at Penn and Harvard the past 20 or so years but they are still loyal to their programs and couldn't really leave for anything better (if there are still any), despite Murphy being on the low end of the Ivy standings until around the start of this current millennium and Bagnoli having hard times as well. Was Teevens in a similar situation towards the end of his first Dartmouth stint? Meanwhile, the coaches who are at the low end of the Ivy standings (Columbia, Cornell, etc.) last usually 2-3 years before being replaced by another.

Probably just sticking around to get their kids cheaper tutition :D

/obviously kidding

[slostang]

Allowing? It shouldn't even be permitted. As weak as non-compete agreements are, the morality and ethics clauses in most contracts expressly forbid it.
If they want to follow Bohl down the rabbit hole for a few years worth of silver dollars before they head to highschool programs that's fine by me.

Look dont get me wrong, I am all about me and financial goals. But I do have morals and ethics, something Bohl claimed were his backbone.
I understand the timing and the decision, I just dont condone it. Personally I would have waited for #3 and a better offer after the season was over.
Bohl had a very narrow margin for making a decision, his greed overrode his morality.

Simply stated he lacks what he demands from his players.
All I can say is if you ever leave a job for a higher paying job you will be a hypocrite.

[centennial]

What makes you guys think it was someone at Wyoming that leaked this?Also, great hire for us...
Go away Wyoming..

[Bisonoline]

I think it's about time players stop looking to coaches for motivation and inspiration. Trust and follow the game plan, absorb all the knowledge and wisdom you can from the coaches you have, but can an FCS or FBS football player really count on their coaches to actually be there for them? Can you really forge emotional bonds with someone that could be gone in a couple months time?

I know that sounds needlessly cynical, but Bohl is the last coach I would have ever expected to do something like this. It really opened my eyes to how cold and calculated the coaching carousel really is. Heck, I give Fritz a week before somebody poaches him.

I still wish the best for Bohl at Wyoming. We can't lose sight of what he did for NDSU and ultimately, the FCS as a whole. But this proves that at least in the FCS, no coach is ever certain to stay, no matter how close they are to a "dream" situation.

Really. It was NDSU who took a chance on him when nobody else would. It was NDSU who gave him the resources to be successful. Its not the fact that he is leaving. Its the classless way that he did it. He talked about integrity and character many times. I guess in the end it was all talk. He took a dump on those he called family.

[Gil Dobie]

What makes you guys think it was someone at Wyoming that leaked this?Also, great hire for us...

A lot of people in Fargo were calling for Boh's head 5 years ago.

[Darlinikki150]

U boys are right to sum degree, but its still a bull**** move. And if he doesn't address the team in person then what kind of man dies that make him? It isn't like I'm home crying, but I feel really bad for the Seniors and the rest of the players. They put their faith in this man and he runs off into the night for 1million $. Its hurtful to say the least.

[clenz]

Clenz you seem happy about him leaving. As are the griz, cat, eagles, sela, and even Iowa state football boards..
In my opinion this is a loss for FCS.

Happy?

Meh.

Able to take a step back and look at this calmly and rationally? Yup.

I appear happy because I ask contrasted by people wishing death upon him in the same thread

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[Twentysix]

Any source on that? Trying to find but just have some vague rumors from weeks/months ago. (I grew up on Big 8 football, so this would be interesting).

The only journalist source I have seen is someone from the Dickinson press, but that could be crossed wires, who knows.

[Southern Bison]

What makes you guys think it was someone at Wyoming that leaked this?Also, great hire for us...

Oh good...the Teton troll has arrived.

[Bisonoline]

Talks of going to the big 12 are completely false.

Bohl said he wasnt interested in the WY job also.

[Twentysix]

U boys are right to sum degree, but its still a bull**** move. And if he doesn't address the team in person then what kind of man dies that make him? It isn't like I'm home crying, but I feel really bad for the Seniors and the rest of the players. They put their faith in this man and he runs off into the night for 1million $. Its hurtful to say the least.

To be fair he probably ran off for closer to $5 million (this is assuming he is fired after about 3 years). Just look at what heisenberg was willing to do for $700k lol.

[NDSUstudent]

Wyoming, where coaches go to die.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

A lot of people in Fargo were calling for Boh's head 5 years ago.


Expectations are high at NDSU.

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What makes you guys think it was someone at Wyoming that leaked this?Also, great hire for us...


Good coach at a crap FBS school.

[frozennorth]

Any source on that? Trying to find but just have some vague rumors from weeks/months ago. (I grew up on Big 8 football, so this would be interesting).
they might be joining the big12 in wrestling, thats it

[Twentysix]

Expectations are high at NDSU.

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Good coach at a crap FBS school.

Unless you are a womens Basketball coach, lol.

[Wyoming]

Go away Wyoming..


Sure... Just let me pack coach's bags.... We have a flight to catch.

[Twentysix]

Sure... Just let me pack coach's bags.... We have a flight to catch.

So uhh... Red chiclet attack?

[MNBISON]

What makes you guys think it was someone at Wyoming that leaked this?Also, great hire for us...

If not Wyoming, then where did it come from? Do you think Feldman got it from Bohl or NDSU?

[NDSUSR]

All I can say is if you ever leave a job for a higher paying job you will be a hypocrite.

I never will. Besides personal ethics, I will get sued and never find another contract in my field.
Believe me , I have wanted to, but its just not allowable in my field. 20 years in this industry and I have never broken a contract.

[clenz]

To be fair he probably ran off for closer to $5 million.

At least. He'll get at least 4 years at Wyoming...there is 4.8 million...plus any bonuses he had for any bowl game, free cars, and other perks...

I'll bet he gets at least 7 million over the next 4 or 5 years in total compensation.


Compared 3 million in Fargo over that same time...assuming he keeps winning titles to up his base pay off 206k

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[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Unless you are a womens Basketball coach, lol.


Oh man, don't start with DeHoff.....xsmhx

[Darlinikki150]

Sure... Just let me pack coach's bags.... We have a flight to catch.

Omg shut your mouth. Why r here? This is FCS football talk, something of which you know nothing about.

[clenz]

I never will. Besides personal ethics, I will get sued and never find another contract in my field.
Believe me , I have wanted to, but its just not allowable in my field. 20 years in this industry and I have never broken a contract.

Well it is allowed in his field....

He wanted too, just like you. However, he was smart enough not to get into a position he couldn't move in from when he wanted too

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[nodak651]

"Once a Bison.... Always a Bison"

xrolleyesx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

So uhh... Red chiclet attack?

Stupid. No fan of a FBS team would go troll a FCS board. Even if it's Wyoming, it's beneath them.

[Twentysix]

At least. He'll get at least 4 years at Wyoming...there is 4.8 million...plus any bonuses he had for any bowl game, free cars, and other perks...

I'll bet he gets at least 7 million over the next 4 or 5 years in total compensation.


Compared 3 million in Fargo over that same time...assuming he keeps winning titles to up his base pay off 206k

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4 years in fargo is like 1.6million not 3 million. And that is assuming a 7 peat.

[clenz]

4 years in fargo is like 1.6million not 3 million.

I figured best case scenario...

4 more titles....or 7 in a row...which gives him that 300k boost on a 206k salary from what I've read in this thread. 500k by 4 years is 2 mil...plus any cars, houses, places,etc... perks he would get

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[Sycamore62]

At least he didn't leave for Georgia State

[Twentysix]

Yeah, maybe. He did just negotiate a pretty sweet 'FCS' contract though. 500k a year seems pretty steep for NDSU.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I figured best case scenario...

4 more titles....or 7 in a row...which gives him that 300k boost. 500k by 4 years is 2 mil...plus any cars, houses, places,etc... perks he would get

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You really think he had those kinds of 'perks' at NDSU?

[Wyoming]

Expectations are high at NDSU.

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Good coach at a crap FBS school.

Someone once called Boise State a crap school....

The state of Wyoming's only University..... Millions in upgrades... Top notch facilities and a 1.2 million dollar salary.... Yeah Coach is gonna enjoy Laramie



http://www.gowyo.com/facilities/wyo-facilities.html

[centennial]

Happy?

Meh.

Able to take a step back and look at this calmly and rationally? Yup.

I appear happy because I ask contrasted by people wishing death upon him in the same thread

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Every fairy tail has to end one day. Most fans aren't delusional like Nikki. However -
Bohl negotiated a long term contract with NDSU. We acted in good faith and got burned.
He is leaving between a record 3rd playoff NC run
He will probably not even address the players before leaving
He is trying to raid as many NDSU coaches as possible (might leave a few until the end of our run)
He is going to take our recruits using the loophole
We gave him a chance after he was unemployable after sleeping with coeds and cheating on the wife

If all this is true, then it is a really classless move. Somehow I think there must have been a better way to deal with this situation. Not like next year he couldn't get another 5 teams asking him to take their HC position..

[Darlinikki150]

4 years in fargo is like 1.6million not 3 million. And that is assuming a 7 peat.

I understand the need to further ones career and make more money. I think that's human nature. What I'm having the problem with is how Bohl is doing it. My whole crew is pissed, its just a dirty move imho. This couldn't wait til the end of the season?

[Twentysix]

At least he didn't leave for Georgia State

If you aren't on a warpath right now, that is funny.

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I understand the need to further ones career and make more money. I think that's human nature. What I'm having the problem with is how Bohl is doing it. My whole crew is pissed, its just a dirty move imho. This couldn't wait til the end of the season?

Wyoming likely wouldn't let him wait till the end of the year... they are the ones with the dollars, so they are the ones in power. Like posted repeatedly in this thread before, the earlier the better for his 2014 recruiting class.

[clenz]

I understand the need to further ones career and make more money. I think that's human nature. What I'm having the problem with is how Bohl is doing it. My whole crew is pissed, its just a dirty move imho. This couldn't wait til the end of the season?

No....by the time the title game is over there is only 2 weeks of recruiting before signing day

Not a lot can be done in 2 weeks at a new school when they haven't had a coach for 6 weeks

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[Darlinikki150]

Every fairy tail has to end one day. Most fans aren't delusional like Nikki. However -
Bohl negotiated a long term contract with NDSU. We acted in good faith and got burned.
He is leaving between a record 3rd playoff NC run
He will probably not even address the players before leaving
He is trying to raid as many NDSU coaches as possible (might leave a few until the end of our run)
He is going to take our recruits using the loophole
We gave him a chance after he was unemployable after sleeping with coeds and cheating on the wife

If all this is true, then it is a really classless move. Somehow I think there must have been a better way to deal with this situation. Not like next year he couldn't get another 5 teams asking him to take their HC position..

How am I delusional exactly? I might be pissed and my words are harsh but this is a dick move at this time of the season by any coach.

[Wyoming]

http://www.gowyo.com/facilities/wyo-facilities.html

top notch facilities and 1.2 million a year..... Sounds like Coach loves Laramie

[clenz]

You really think he had those kinds of 'perks' at NDSU?

Farley had them at UNI...even most of the assistants do.


**** the wbb, vb, softball, and wrestling coaches do...don't know about the other sports

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[NDSUSR]

Well it is allowed in his field....
He wanted too, just like you. However, he was smart enough not to get into a position he couldn't move in from when he wanted too
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No its not allowed, its just become the acceptable. Its really kind of sad and reflects the moral decay of the country.
I can break any contract with a client with a 30 day notice. Not doing so is a testament to my perseverance and commitment to my clients.
Its what makes me one notch better than my competitors. Something Bohl has proven he cannot do twice now.
If you think the way Bohl has handled this is acceptable, you are part of the problem with this country.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

No....by the time the title game is over there is only 2 weeks of recruiting before signing day

Not a lot can be done in 2 weeks at a new school when they haven't had a coach for 6 weeks

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Who has a bigger boner right now, you or SE?

This is just ****ty. I hope everything will get sorted tomorrow but leaving like this, you are essentially saying "**** you" to the team who has been trying to win a 3rd NC. That's pretty bad.

[NDSUstudent]

http://www.gowyo.com/facilities/wyo-facilities.html

top notch facilities and 1.2 million a year..... Sounds like Coach loves Laramie

looks liked Darrell got a new user name

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

http://www.gowyo.com/facilities/wyo-facilities.html

top notch facilities and 1.2 million a year..... Sounds like Coach loves Laramie


Top notch.....really?

Wyoming is a FBS doormat and will always be one.

[Twentysix]

No its not allowed, its just become the acceptable. Its really kind of sad and reflects the moral decay of the country.
I can break any contract with a client with a 30 day notice. Not doing so is a testament to my perseverance and commitment to my clients.
Its what makes me one notch better than my competitors. Something Bohl has proven he cannot do twice now.
If you think the way Bohl has handled this is acceptable, you are part of the problem with this country.

Eh, tell that to the French burbon kings of Spain, or anything else throughout history.

Anyone who talks about decay of society/humankind/country has such a narrow historical scope they are moronic.

[gregatim]

http://www.gowyo.com/facilities/wyo-facilities.html

top notch facilities and 1.2 million a year..... Sounds like Coach loves Laramie

Don't forget the winning tradition!! That certainly played a big part in his decision lol

[Twentysix]

looks liked Darrell got a new user name

Haha, darrell secretly likes NDSU a little. He wouldn't do that.

[FargoBison]

You really think he had those kinds of 'perks' at NDSU?

Bohl gets a vehicle from NDSU, he gets a $20,000 annuity from the foundation every year, the school pay's his son's tuition at MSUM, a membership at the Fargo Country Club...he has a lot of perks that people don't know about.

[clenz]

No its not allowed, its just become the acceptable. Its really kind of sad and reflects the moral decay of the country.
I can break any contract with a client with a 30 day notice. Not doing so is a testament to my perseverance and commitment to my clients.
Its what makes me one notch better than my competitors. Something Bohl has proven he cannot do twice now.
If you think the way Bohl has handled this is acceptable, you are part of the problem with this country.

Bohl's contract had a buy out clause agreed on by him and NDSU....he isn't breaking any contact. He is doing exactly what his contract allowed him to do

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[NoDak 4 Ever]

Over on thy Wyo board, lots of talk about Joe Glenn II.

[centennial]

How am I delusional exactly? I might be pissed and my words are harsh but this is a dick move at this time of the season by any coach.
Now, Nikki there is no need for name calling. Coming from someone in his mid 20's and a NDSU alumni, so I understand the pain. We all agree that this is a classless move but you are falling to his level, NDSU fans are better than that.

[Twentysix]

Over on thy Wyo board, lots of talk about Joe Glenn II.

And this means??? They are not happy with Bohl?

[clenz]

Every fairy tail has to end one day. Most fans aren't delusional like Nikki. However -
Bohl negotiated a long term contract with NDSU. We acted in good faith and got burned.
He is leaving between a record 3rd playoff NC run
He will probably not even address the players before leaving
He is trying to raid as many NDSU coaches as possible (might leave a few until the end of our run)
He is going to take our recruits using the loophole
We gave him a chance after he was unemployable after sleeping with coeds and cheating on the wife

If all this is true, then it is a really classless move. Somehow I think there must have been a better way to deal with this situation. Not like next year he couldn't get another 5 teams asking him to take their HC position..

The thing is he could have had other offers....so there is something about this one that goes beyond the money side of it imo.

If he could have had a dozen "better"offers that paid at least what Wyoming will why this one now? Answer that....

There has to be something more that Bohl liked for his family somewhere

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[NoDak 4 Ever]

And this means??? They are not happy with Bohl?


I guess. I don't get these FBS clowns. You have a terrible program and are hiring a winning coach, who cares where he comes from?

[SactoHornetFan]

No....by the time the title game is over there is only 2 weeks of recruiting before signing day

Not a lot can be done in 2 weeks at a new school when they haven't had a coach for 6 weeks

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I call BS on this whole 2 week thing. Guess what, all the kids he has been recruiting so far, to come to NDSU, are likely the same level of kid at UWyo. He's taking all the info on these kids. Especially because recruiting isn't proprietary info. If it was; guarantee he would leave like this.

The way AD's have become in the last several years in their attitude in hiring coaches in this manner is downright pathetic and embarrassing. They have become ambulance chasers.

[Tubakat2014]

Really. It was NDSU who took a chance on him when nobody else would. It was NDSU who gave him the resources to be successful. Its not the fact that he is leaving. Its the classless way that he did it. He talked about integrity and character many times. I guess in the end it was all talk. He took a dump on those he called family.

All of those things are great points. I don't disagree with you on any of them. But if NDSU took a chance on me and gave me plenty of resources, you'd be looking at a pretty terrible football team. You have to give Bohl some credit for his coaching abilities, even if today's events expose him as somewhat of a snake. I sure hope he learned something from this blown up situation, and I also hope Wyoming doesn't get too upset if Bohl takes another step up the FBS ladder in a couple years.


U boys are right to sum degree, but its still a bull**** move. And if he doesn't address the team in person then what kind of man dies that make him? It isn't like I'm home crying, but I feel really bad for the Seniors and the rest of the players. They put their faith in this man and he runs off into the night for 1million $. Its hurtful to say the least.

He had better address the team in person. He needs to let them speak up, and answer any questions they might have. Again, Bohl did a lot for Bison football. But this goes beyond the gridiron- these are human beings that placed a huge amount of trust in their coach. If he can't even show them a little bit of respect, shame on him to the highest degree.

[Wyoming]

Seriously though... We don't even like this hire.

You should check out the mwc forum..... Melt down

[Twentysix]

The thing is he could have had other offers....so there is something about this one that goes beyond the money side of it imo.

If he could have had a dozen "better"offers that paid at least what Wyoming will why this one now? Answer that....

There has to be something more that Bohl liked for his family somewhere

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Secretly moving to BigXII? Geography to Nebraska? Maybe this is the best money he has seen. Maybe they gave him a CRAZY CRAZY buyout for being fired.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

I guess. I don't get these FBS clowns. You have a terrible program and are hiring a winning coach, who cares where he comes from?


It's Wyoming....

[centennial]

http://www.gowyo.com/facilities/wyo-facilities.html

top notch facilities and 1.2 million a year..... Sounds like Coach loves Laramie
Even at Wyoming and with all the oil/ shale money your team is beneath ours, don't forget that. Our 3rd team would give your 1st fits. Go back to the Wyoming board, you aren't welcome here..

[NDSUSR]

Eh, tell that to the French burbon kings of Spain, or anything else throughout history.
Anyone who talks about decay of society/humankind/country has such a narrow historical scope they are moronic.
Thanks for contributing to the decline. If you want to lecture someone on history at least spell "Bourbon" properly and use correct capitalization.
If you are referring to the Bourbon Monarchs.

When you are dry behind the ears, and your balls drop lets talk history again.

[SactoHornetFan]

No its not allowed, its just become the acceptable. Its really kind of sad and reflects the moral decay of the country.
I can break any contract with a client with a 30 day notice. Not doing so is a testament to my perseverance and commitment to my clients.
Its what makes me one notch better than my competitors. Something Bohl has proven he cannot do twice now.
If you think the way Bohl has handled this is acceptable, you are part of the problem with this country.

Amen!!!

[Darlinikki150]

Now, Nikki there is no need for name calling. Coming from someone in his mid 20's and a NDSU alumni, so I understand the pain. We all agree that this is a classless move but you are falling to his level, NDSU fans are better than that.

Omg really? I didn't call u a dick, I said its a dick move. Its a classless move, its a bull**** move to do at this time in the season. Just let me be mad dammit lol ;)

[NDSUSR]

Omg really? I didn't call u a dick, I said its a dick move. Its a classless move, its a bull**** move to do at this time in the season. Just let me be mad dammit lol ;)

Ok, hes a dick. :)

[Sader87]

Aren't Wyoming and North Dakota basically the same? Cultural wastelands devoid of anything remotely cosmopolitan?

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Thanks for contributing to the decline. If you want to lecture someone on history at least spell "Bourbon" properly and use correct capitalization.
If you are referring to the Bourbon Monarchs.

When you are dry behind the ears, and your balls drop lets talk history again.


He is still googling his comeback.....

[clenz]

I call BS on this whole 2 week thing. Guess what, all the kids he has been recruiting so far, to come to NDSU, are likely the same level of kid at UWyo. He's taking all the info on these kids. Especially because recruiting isn't proprietary info. If it was; guarantee he would leave like this.

The way AD's have become in the last several years in their attitude in hiring coaches in this manner is downright pathetic and embarrassing. They have become ambulance chasers.
There is only 2 weeks between the title game and signing day.

If Wyoming waited until January 10 to hire him they would be 6 weeks without a coach. 6 weeks no recruiting. It isn't about him needing time to recruit high level projects it's about him needing time to recruit period. You can bet he is going to use the **** out of that loop hole....and use all 6 weeks to do so...as well as get all the existing Wyoming targets on board with him.

This isn't as easy to do as you think it is...recruiting doesn't work like the NCAA football video games


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[Twentysix]

Thanks for contributing to the decline. If you want to lecture someone on history at least spell "Bourbon" properly and use correct capitalization.
If you are referring to the Bourbon Monarchs.

When you are dry behind the ears, and your balls drop lets talk history again.

Lol good job at googling! A genuine wiki-historian in the flesh! Tell me more about the modern corruption of humanity.

[Squealofthepig]

It's Wyoming....

Hey now, Wyoming has beaten as many teams in the last five years as Georgia State has in its entire existence!

(That number would be ten, for anyone curious).

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Aren't Wyoming and North Dakota basically the same? Cultural wastelands devoid of anything remotely cosmopolitan?


Hard working people.

Nice try.

[clenz]

Secretly moving to BigXII? Geography to Nebraska? Maybe this is the best money he has seen. Maybe they gave him a CRAZY CRAZY buyout for being fired.

All of which are possible....

He no doubt would have had other offers...which to me says something about this one was different



Also lol to the America is falling apart because coaches exercise the rights they have laid out in legal writing in their contact

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[Wyoming]

Even at Wyoming and with all the oil/ shale money your team is beneath ours, don't forget that. Our 3rd team would give your 1st fits. Go back to the Wyoming board, you aren't welcome here..


Maybe be he will make a winner out of us. Much respect for your wonderful program. Too bad Coach is leaving.

[centennial]

Omg really? I didn't call u a dick, I said its a dick move. Its a classless move, its a bull**** move to do at this time in the season. Just let me be mad dammit lol ;)
Fine.. this once. A girl I knew used to go outside and shout as loud as possible. Maybe do that, I tried it a few times definitely helps..

[Southern Bison]

So I stepped back for a bit while reading this quickly advancing thread and played devil's advocate for a minute...let's look into what's being posted & what's not.

- NDSU players had no clue about this via tweets from Brock & MWill.
- Team meeting at 9 am Sunday.
- Flight plan filed for an 8 am departure from FAR to Laramie on Sunday.

However, we aren't hearing anything from the following:
- AD Gene Taylor or President Bresciani
- Coach Bohl (who himself shed tears - as he put it - only 14 days ago on Senior Day)

If what this man has coached, preached, and stated to the public about family, respect, honor, etc. for the past 10 years came from his heart, IMO at the very least, he would've talked to the players before the public became aware. With a supposed departure for WY 1 hour before an "emergency team meeting", does it make sense to any other Bison fan that Bohl would turn his back without so much as an "adios" or "good luck next week"?

There simply are pieces that aren't adding up so far...at 1:30 am.

[centennial]

Maybe be he will make a winner out of us. Much respect for your wonderful program. Too bad Coach is leaving.
There is nothing that you can say right now that will help. Lets us continue our melt down in peace. We don't need a Wyoming fan rubbing it in, we already have half the FCS celebrating him leaving.

[Twentysix]

So I stepped back for a bit while reading this quickly advancing thread and played devil's advocate for a minute...let's look into what's being posted & what's not.

- NDSU players had no clue about this via tweets from Brock & MWill.
- Team meeting at 9 am Sunday.
- Flight plan filed for an 8 am departure from FAR to Laramie on Sunday.

However, we aren't hearing anything from the following:
- AD Gene Taylor or President Bresciani
- Coach Bohl (who himself shed tears - as he put it - only 14 days ago on Senior Day)

If what this man has coached, preached, and stated to the public about family, respect, honor, etc. for the past 10 years came from his heart, IMO at the very least, he would've talked to the players before the public became aware. With a supposed departure for WY 1 hour before an "emergency team meeting", does it make sense to any other Bison fan that Bohl would turn his back without so much as an "adios" or "good luck next week"?

There simply are pieces that aren't adding up so far...at 1:30 am.

It sure is shocking. Likely we will have much better information tomorrow at 6.

[NDSUSR]

He is still googling his comeback.....

18636

[NDSUSR]

Aren't Wyoming and North Dakota basically the same? Cultural wastelands devoid of anything remotely cosmopolitan?

You cant say **** like that abou.... well yup.

[Sycamore62]

This sums up the MWC for me.. I'm reading this thread and looked up at the TV and realized they MWC conference championship is a 1 score game and is in the last 2min.

Back to reading

[NDSUSR]

Lol good job at googling! A genuine wiki-historian in the flesh! Tell me more about the modern corruption of humanity.

I didn't graduate from NDSU, I have a real education. From FSU!!!
I don't need Google to bitchslap you. Go to bed junior. :)

[Twentysix]

This sums up the MWC for me.. I'm reading this thread and looked up at the TV and realized they MWC conference championship is a 1 score game and is in the last 2min.

Back to reading

Who is playing? I honestly don't know.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

**** this, I'm going to bed.

Still planning on a trip for the Semi,

Still have my NC tickets.

**** you FCS, still gonna happen.

[NDSUSR]

There is nothing that you can say right now that will help. Lets us continue our melt down in peace. We don't need a Wyoming fan rubbing it in, we already have half the FCS celebrating him leaving.

Exactly. We are entitled right.
They hate when we celebrate, the least they can do is let us meltdown.
:)

[Darlinikki150]

It sure is shocking. Likely we will have much better information tomorrow at 6.

Great post, something just seems fishy with this situation. I truly want to believe Bohl wouldn't leave this way. Gonna be a crazy Sunday, my intense anger is subsiding now. I would have gone outside to yell but I don't feel like freezing my tits off lol.

[Twentysix]

I didn't graduate from NDSU, I have a real education. From FSU!!!
I don't need Google to bitchslap you. Go to bed junior. :)

You tried to spell a french word correctly, that shows a serious flaw in your self esteem.
The french are the worst people on earth. Mangle their language, titles, and locales as best you can, always.

I am actually disappointed in myself that I didn't **** it up more.

[IBleedYellow]

Is lakes going to follow Coach Bohl to Wyoming?

[Sycamore62]

Who is playing? I honestly don't know.
2 high school teams


fresno st Utah st

[Twentysix]

Is lakes going to follow Coach Bohl to Wyoming?

Hell no, Lakes is going to be our new HC.

[BisonFan02]

Is lakes going to follow Coach Bohl to Wyoming?

Only if NDSU doesn't join the MWC.

[NDSUSR]

I am actually disappointed in myself that I didn't **** it up more.

It only has one correct spelling.
Dont worry, you ****ed it up more than enough.

[Twentysix]

Bohl will get NDSU in to mountain west - unnamed source.

(Ok it was really lakes, but he was being sarcastic, and has a good sense of humor)

[Drblankstare]

Unless Bohl takes Brock Jensen, Sam Ojiuri, the offense line and the Defense with him tomorrow the Bison should be Ok for the rest of the Playoffs. Going forward who the hell knows

[Texas]

Great post, something just seems fishy with this situation. I truly want to believe Bohl wouldn't leave this way. Gonna be a crazy Sunday, my intense anger is subsiding now. I would have gone outside to yell but I don't feel like freezing my tits off lol.

How is it fishy?
Most coaches leave pretty much the same way, ask Washington on how they felt. This hiring was probably in process months ago.

I'm seriously wondering what kind of drugs Bison were taking to think Bohl would never leave.


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[GoWyo]

I know the fans of NDSU are hurting right now, but most of these comments are amusing and laughable. Bohl's compensation will be 5-6-7 times annually at Wyoming than what it is in Fargo. He'll have use of a private plane and assistant coaching salaries have been bumped nicely for this hire. In 2014, Bohl gets to face Oregon and Michigan State, along with the usual MWC teams. Oregon, Missouri and Iowa will be coming to Laramie in the years ahead. Nebraska, Texas, A&M, Virginia and Ole Miss have already been to Laramie in recent years. Sorry boys, but this is a different level of football overall and UW/boosters are opening their wallets to get the program back on track. Good luck.

[Twentysix]

I know the fans of NDSU are hurting right now, but most of these comments are amusing and laughable. Bohl's compensation will be 5-6-7 times annually at Wyoming than what it is in Fargo. He'll have use of a private plane and assistant coaching salaries have been bumped nicely for this hire. In 2014, Bohl gets to face Oregon and Michigan State, along with the usual MWC teams. Oregon, Missouri and Iowa will be coming to Laramie in the years ahead. Nebraska, Texas, A&M, Virginia and Ole Miss have already been to Laramie in recent years. Sorry boys, but this is a different level of football overall and UW/boosters are opening their wallets to get the program back on track. Good luck.

Does bohl get to fly the plane?

[IBleedYellow]

I know the fans of NDSU are hurting right now, but most of these comments are amusing and laughable. Bohl's compensation will be 5-6-7 times annually at Wyoming than what it is in Fargo. He'll have use of a private plane and assistant coaching salaries have been bumped nicely for this hire. In 2014, Bohl gets to face Oregon and Michigan State, along with the usual MWC teams. Oregon, Missouri and Iowa will be coming to Laramie in the years ahead. Nebraska, Texas, A&M, Virginia and Ole Miss have already been to Laramie in recent years. Sorry boys, but this is a different level of football overall and UW/boosters are opening their wallets to get the program back on track. Good luck.

Back on track so be the place coaching careers go to die? Glad to see that you're wanting to keep that going. You're football program is a joke. Less than .500 winning percentage all time and a losing record in bowl games.

You're so special you little flower.

EDIT: Pretty sure I bit hard on trollbait, don't even care. Wyo is a crap program and I mean it with all my heart. IN THE DUMPS. Coach Bohl will be able to turn it around, but you have nothing for tradition. NOTHING.

[Texas]

Back on track so be the place coaching careers go to die? Glad to see that you're wanting to keep that going.

How old is he? No idea seriously.
Maybe Bohl like the challenge and money.


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[Darlinikki150]

How is it fishy?
Most coaches leave pretty much the same way, ask Washington on how they felt. This hiring was probably in process months ago.

I'm seriously wondering what kind of drugs Bison were taking to think Bohl would never leave.


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Fishy on the timing, how he's leaving. Not talking to the players, not fishy he got an offer to coach a FBS team. Should have clarified sorry and perhaps fishy isn't the correct word but its all I could come with. My apologies.

[clenz]

Fishy on the timing, how he's leaving. Not talking to the players, not fishy he got an offer to coach a FBS team. Should have clarified sorry and perhaps fishy isn't the correct word but its all I could come with. My apologies.

How is the timing fishy? December is when a tin if college coaching changes happen

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[Twentysix]

How old is he? No idea seriously.
Maybe Bohl like the challenge and money.


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55 (born in 58)

[Texas]

Fishy on the timing, how he's leaving. Not talking to the players, not fishy he got an offer to coach a FBS team. Should have clarified sorry and perhaps fishy isn't the correct word but its all I could come with. My apologies.

I'm sure Bohl and co did not mean it to come out this way. You don't go hire and spend a good amount of money just because, for all you know Bohl accepted the job weeks or more ago.

Wyoming has their man they have absolute nothing to lose by leaking it and can only gain recruits from NDSU decommits.


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[Darlinikki150]

How is the timing fishy? December is when a tin if college coaching changes happen

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Get off my back about my word choices. I will clarify again, ****ty timing for our program since we are in the playoffs trying to 3 peat. Good lord Clenz, I understand what you are saying in the big picture but I don't care about Wyoming recruiting. I only care about Bison football and the timing sucks for us.