FCS Selection Show

[nick9c]

I know this is supposed to be on ESPN U at 11:30 EST, but does anyone know if it will be available on ESPN 3? I looked but didn't see anything, but I know they often carry ESPN U content online.

[eaglewraith]

I know this is supposed to be on ESPN U at 11:30 EST, but does anyone know if it will be available on ESPN 3? I looked but didn't see anything, but I know they often carry ESPN U content online.

As long as you can get the ESPNU stream which is available to a handful of providors right now, then yea you can watch. It just streams the whole channel, so you can click on whatever is on ESPNU right now and it'll keep playing what's next like on TV.

When the current program started, the Bottom Line displayed that the top 4 seeds were decided (EIU, EWU, NDSU, SELA). Thought that was a nice touch to go ahead and put that out there.

[nick9c]

Thanks Eaglewraith....i will check on espn3 then. Great win yesterday and best of luck in the FBS>

[ejjones]

The NCAA.com mistakenly assigned the seeds, but have since updated. No surprise about 1, but EI, EW, & SELA was 4 if I remember right.

[IBleedYellow]

You will have to have a cable provider that allows access to Watch ESPN. Stupid Cable one here in Fargo only allows us to ESPN3 not Watch ESPN.

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[carney2]

No ESPNU available here. Any other options?

[Engineer86]

No ESPNU available here. Any other options?

Drive to LC.xlolx Actually Sevice Electic is 523 and 174

[carney2]

Drive to LC

Not with my hangover.

[Engineer86]

Not with my hangover.

I hit return too early, see above

[eaglewraith]

Looks like Chatty is in since they have a camera on the team.

[eaglewraith]

How does Main get #5 seed after that loss yesterday? That doesn't really make sense to me.

[Sam_Kats]

Southland with #4 and #6 seeds.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Can some post the seeds and whatnot for those who don't have the U?

[Engineer86]

We could see a couple of 6 D1 win teams based on McNeese seed

[hebmskebm]

And the seeds are:

1. NDSU
2. EIU
3. EWU
4. SELU
5. Maine
6. McNeese
7. Towson
8. Montana

[Engineer86]

Can some post the seeds and whatnot for those who don't have the U?

Ndsu
eiu
ewu
sela
maine
mcneese
towson
mountana

[carney2]

Can some post the seeds and whatnot for those who don't have the U?

Seeds AND first round matchups, please.

[dbackjon]

**** the selection committee

[Professor Chaos]

How does Main get #5 seed after that loss yesterday? That doesn't really make sense to me.
Look at their resume. Its better than Towson, McNeese, or Montana. NAU has the biggest beef IMO, Montana got seeded over them based on reputation only it seems.

[hebmskebm]

Seeds AND first round machups, please.

Havent announced the field yet, just the seeds.

[Engineer86]

Seeds AND first round machups, please.

Just seeds so far, in commercial

[Fordham]

Ugh

[Gil Dobie]

Seeds AND first round machups, please.

So far only talked about the seeds. Interview with NDSU head coach, and impressed with SELU.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

**** the selection committee

Should have played OK Panhandle instead of Arizona.

[youwouldno]

Well the people predicting Montana would unfairly be seeded rather than NAU were correct...

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Look at their resume. Its better than Towson, McNeese, or Montana. NAU has the biggest beef IMO, Montana got seeded over them based on reputation only it seems.
Based on $

[IBleedYellow]

**** the selection committee

Oh, you poor little loud mouth.

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[LehighU11]

Selection show is also being broadcast online: http://espn.go.com/watchespn/

[hebmskebm]

On the plus side, it sets up a nice NDSU/Montana game.

[kdinva]

3 minute commercial now on........

[dbackjon]

Oh, you poor little loud mouth.

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And screw you. Classless fool

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Oh, you poor little loud mouth.

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He has a point.

[Bison56]

Look at their resume. Its better than Towson, McNeese, or Montana. NAU has the biggest beef IMO, Montana got seeded over them based on reputation only it seems.
You are correct sir.

[Gil Dobie]

GSU upset over Florida highlight + FBS wins.

[Texas]

What is with the Big Sky love affair? Conference is a joke.


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[IBleedYellow]

He has a point.

NAU is better than Montana, yes. This just proves that name helps more than team skill, which is sad.
Dbackjon is a crier, I look forward to NAU playing the Bison.

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[Engineer86]

SCSU not deserving

[eaglewraith]

GSU upset over Florida highlight + FBS wins.

Lol we're not even eligible and we're still invading the Selection Show. Love it.

[kdinva]

SC State/Furman/ND St.

[Professor Chaos]

SCSU is in playing Furman. Winner plays NDSU.

[kdinva]

CCU/Beth cookman/montana

[eaglewraith]

GLHF in the Fargo Dome Furman.

[CPrice91]

8. Montana

Well that pisses me off. No way UM deserves a higher slot than NAU.

[kdinva]

new hampshire/lafayette/maine

[Engineer86]

UNH vs Lafayette vs maine

[kdinva]

sam houston/SUU/SE La

[Engineer86]

First 6 win team

[Texas]

Eat'em up but we don't deserve it.


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[kdinva]

n arizona/s d state/EWU

[dbackjon]

How the hell does ShSU get in?

[UNHWildcat18]

MEAC got two bids.......?

[kdinva]

jack state/samford/mcneese

[Screamin_Eagle174]

What is with the Big Sky love affair? Conference is a joke.


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xlolx

[LehighU11]

UNH at Lafayette vs maine

Think it's Lafayette at UNH...

[kdinva]

fordham/sacred heart/towson

[NoDak 4 Ever]

What is with the Big Sky love affair? Conference is a joke.


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Could say the same for the Southland.

[Professor Chaos]

Tough draw for EWU in round 2. They get the winner of NAU and SDSU.

[kdinva]

butler/tenn. state/e. illinois.

[eaglewraith]

Sorry Chatty, guess ESPN shouldn't have gotten your hopes up with that lookin on the team.

[Engineer86]

Think it's Lafayette at UNH...

You are correct

[Screamin_Eagle174]

How the hell does ShSU get in?

The Western seeds needed a cupcake.

[Gil Dobie]

Youngstown lost it way out of the playoffs

[Texas]

Could say the same for the Southland.
Ok?


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[NoDak 4 Ever]

OVC gets more teams than MVFC.

Ridiculous.

[kdinva]

How the hell does ShSU get in?

back to back runner up finishes............UTC had to be team #25. Had W&M beat richmond, they would have been in over Sam houston, I feel.

[LehighU11]

Wait...OVC gets 3, MEAC 2. And the MVFC only gets 2!? xrotatehx

[tomq04]

Tough draw for EWU in round 2. They get the winner of NAU and SDSU.

We needed to play NAU anyway to have a perfect big sky season

[carney2]

butler/tenn. state/e. illinois.

Not following any of this. 3 teams? Are they going to all show up on the same day at the same place?

[Sam_Kats]

Not saying we deserve it but we're a cupcake that smoked your a$$

[UNIFanSince1983]

Wait there are 3 OVC teams and only 2 MVFC teams. xcrazyx

[Texas]

The Western seeds needed a cupcake.

I forget who did EWU get dominated by again? Oh SHSU?? Oh...


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[Professor Chaos]

Bubbles burst: YSU, Chatty, UNI, Chuck South. Committee chair just recognized those four as the first four out.

[UNHWildcat18]

I'm not complaining about unh playing lafayette then maine if they win but I don't like how they kept the playoffs so regionally based.... like all the northeastern teams are in first two rounds together.

[LehighU11]

Chattanooga, W&M, and Lehigh first 3 out.

[BisonTru]

Valley gets 2 teams. What a joke. Jackrabbits do it up lets make it a valley showdown in frisco.

[Cocky]

OVC gets more teams than MVFC.

Ridiculous.
had a winning record against the MVC.

[PantherRob82]

had a winning record against the MVC.

With wins over.....

[Gil Dobie]

Not following any of this. 3 teams? Are they going to all show up on the same day at the same place?

Butler plays Tenn st first round, winner plays EIU.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Could say the same for the Southland.

There's no Southland love affair, SELA and McNeese have the resumes to be there. SHSU is getting a little love based on the two title game appearances, that's all.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

had a winning record against the MVC.

The OVC or Eastern Illinois?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

I forget who did EWU get dominated by again? Oh SHSU?? Oh...


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Right now, SHSU is a cupcake. An ugly and bitter one, apparently. xcoffeex

[Engineer86]

Not following any of this. 3 teams? Are they going to all show up on the same day at the same place?

Winner of first two plays seeded team listed third

[Red & Black]

What is with the Big Sky love affair? Conference is a joke.


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Might have something to do with having a national semi-finalist each of the past 4 years.


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[eaglewraith]

Also, holy regionalization Batman.

[Red & Black]

There's no Southland love affair, SELA and McNeese have the resumes to be there. SHSU is getting a little love based on the two title game appearances, that's all.

SHSU does not deserve to be in.


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[NoDak 4 Ever]

There's no Southland love affair, SELA and McNeese have the resumes to be there. SHSU is getting a little love based on the two title game appearances, that's all.

McNeese got murdered by UNI who didn't make the playoffs.


SHSU shouldn't be there.

[Gil Dobie]

had a winning record against the MVC.

What about SDSU over SELU and UNI over McNeese St? Southland still got 3.

[Professor Chaos]

Chattanooga, W&M, and Lehigh first 3 out.
When did they say that? I don't think Lehigh or W&M were all that close based on the committee chair's comments.

[WileECoyote06]

had a winning record against the MVC.

Good observation. Poor chatty.. you got furman'd.

[UNHWildcat18]

I know I hate the regionalization.... Also OVC should only have 2 in EIU and TennSt. MEAC having two is also ridiculous

[Red & Black]

Well that pisses me off. No way UM deserves a higher slot than NAU.

+100


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[FormerPokeCenter]

Not following any of this. 3 teams? Are they going to all show up on the same day at the same place?


The first two listed play in the first round, with the winner advancing to meet the third team in the second round. The third team is a seeded team, who gets a bye in the first round ...

[maine612]

Things could not be tougher for Maine. Tough sledding ahead...perhaps literally.

[hebmskebm]

When did they say that? I don't think Lehigh or W&M were all that close based on the committee chair's comments.

They had a graphic up, those were the teams listed as the first out.

[Engineer86]

When did they say that? I don't think Lehigh or W&M were all that close based on the committee chair's comments.

I agree but that is what they listed on the screen

[WileECoyote06]

SHSU does not deserve to be in.


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[Cocky]

The OVC or Eastern Illinois?
EIU is in the conference.
I don't disagree with your assessment of MVC only getting two but the OVC deserved three this year.

[Sammy94]

I'll take it.

[Texas]

Might have something to do with having a national semi-finalist each of the past 4 years.


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Why not we beat you. Lmao


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[Cocky]

With wins over.....
SIU, MSU, ISUr and ISUb

[LehighU11]

When did they say that? I don't think Lehigh or W&M were all that close based on the committee chair's comments.

There was a graphic on ESPNU's broadcast with those as the first three out, as others have mentioned.

[Red & Black]

Why not we beat you. Lmao


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Yep, congrats.


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[dbackjon]

NAU on the road?

[Texas]

Yep, congrats.


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Thanks special shout out to your joke of a conference for helping us in. Thanks buddy.


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[UNIFanSince1983]

NAU on the road?

No you get SDSU at home...

[R.A.]

SCSU not deserving
Hater in da house...

[hebmskebm]

You guys, the Pioneer League is hosting a playoff game.

[R.A.]

I know I hate the regionalization.... Also OVC should only have 2 in EIU and TennSt. MEAC having two is also ridiculous

The hate is strong...

[Professor Chaos]

There was a graphic on ESPNU's broadcast with those as the first three out, as others have mentioned.
I see. I missed that.


The hate is strong...
It's not hate, it's reasonable deduction. YSU, UNI, and Chatty all had stronger schedules and better quality wins than SCSU. What's your argument for SCSU's inclusion being valid?

[kdinva]

You guys, the Pioneer League is hosting a playoff game.

Tenn. State must have had a lousy bid..........

[Silenoz]

Can someone post the bracket as it currently is?

[Gil Dobie]

Comment that Maine, EWU and EIU, because of their QB's have a chance to defeat NDSU.

Final 4 prediction by ESPNU is NDSU vs SELU and EWU vs Towson with NDSU and EWU in Frisco.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

The hate is strong...

The opposite of love is not hate. It's indifferent.


The indifference is strong. The hate is for the committee who made bad decisions.

[Sam_Kats]

Sam vs Big Sky.

Hee hee

[Cocky]

What about SDSU over SELU and UNI over McNeese St? Southland still got 3.
A different argument. SAMs win against EWU must have impressed the committee.

[SDFS]

What about SDSU over SELU and UNI over McNeese St? Southland still got 3.

SELU should be in the playoffs they deserve to be in.. SELU had 6 turnovers on the road in Brookings and nearly won. NOTE: very nice win by SDSU, but I think everyone in Brookings can away very impressed with SELU. UNI would be in but I believe injuries hurt them - they are not the same team as early in the season which is too bad because they looked like a top 5 team. Same with Montana St. they got hurt when the QB was out for three weeks. The NAU/SDSU game is going to be a good game.

[WileECoyote06]

once Furman punched their ticket, SCSU started getting more serious looks.

[Texas]

Sam vs Big Sky.

Hee hee

We won conference out right this year anyway.


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[Professor Chaos]

Can someone post the bracket as it currently is?
http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/football/fcs

[dudeitsaid]

Thanks special shout out to your joke of a conference for helping us in. Thanks buddy.



Yet, that win is the only thing you hang your resume on. If it's crap, than you really have nothing and no reason to be in the field.

Honestly, I am surprised at the fact you guys are in. I think the committee looked at the HBU and ICU games as counters, your performance in the playoffs over the last two years, and your win against EWU as enough. But I would think NIU's wins look a lot more impressive. In any case, congrats on making the field.

[Humble Steward]

I know I hate the regionalization.... Also OVC should only have 2 in EIU and TennSt. MEAC having two is also ridiculous

Honestly, you should just be happy that UNH made it in. To me, that's just as questionable.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Montana getting a seed over Northern Arizona is a joke.

New Hampshire potentially playing Maine (if they get past Lafayette) is a joke, because they just beat them at home, now have to beat them on the road two weeks later to advance.

Tennessee State will destroy Butler and then will play Eastern Illinois, another conference rematch.

Guess the committee really listened when they saw how NDSU and SDSU folks were so thrilled to be playing each other in the playoffs last year... xrolleyesx

[thirdgendin]

once Furman punched their ticket, SCSU started getting more serious looks.

What's the correlation here? Why would a 7-5 team stealing an auto bid mean that SCSU was all of a sudden getting more serious looks than before?

[SDFS]

Tough draw for EWU in round 2. They get the winner of NAU and SDSU.

Absolutely the toughest draw - two great match-ups in that group.

[IBleedYellow]

Absolutely the toughest draw - two great match-ups in that group.

SDSU wins both.

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[Gil Dobie]

SELU should be in the playoffs they deserve to be in.. SELU had 6 turnovers on the road in Brookings and nearly won. NOTE: very nice win by SDSU, but I think everyone in Brookings can away very impressed with SELU. UNI would be in but I believe injuries hurt them - they are not the same team as early in the season which is too bad because they looked like a top 5 team. Same with Montana St. they got hurt when the QB was out for three weeks. The NAU/SDSU game is going to be a good game.

My statement was not that SELU did not belong, but that the MVFC maybe should have had another team in.

[Sam_Kats]

I'm not disagreeing. I was 90% sure we'd be sitting at home. We put up more $$ and actually get the home game. Now that playoffs are here, you never know.

[IBleedYellow]

Why should YSU be in? They are on a three game losing streak to end the year. The committee got this mostly right, other than Montana.

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[PaladinFan]

Just happy to see Furman back in the dance. SCSU game is a renewal of an old rivalry, short road trip, and a team Furman matches up well with.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Either way, Glad I got my Frisco Hotel reservation in.

Thanks NCAA!

[IBleedYellow]

Just happy to see Furman back in the dance. SCSU game is a renewal of an old rivalry, short road trip, and a team Furman matches up well with.

If you guys come to Fargo can we expect a good Paladin crowd?

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[thirdgendin]

If you guys come to Fargo can we expect a good Paladin crowd?

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Doubtful it would be too substantial. Like most visiting crowds in the playoffs, they would be enthusiastic though.

[RabidRabbit]

xthumbsupx SDSU routing through Big Sky/Southland (rather than via Fargo) xthumbsupx

Jacks vs Jacks in the first round. Good thing that the runners are doing better in domes this season (altho I think only played USD in dome this season)

Overall, pretty good choices, though SHSU got a break, and YSU got woffed.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Tell ya what. It's brackets like this that make me wish we played outside again.

[Pard4Life]

Lafayette: first team out.

Fordham should annihilate Sacred Heart. FU lost to us likely cost them the 8 seed.

[WileECoyote06]

What's the correlation here? Why would a 7-5 team stealing an auto bid mean that SCSU was all of a sudden getting more serious looks than before?

You earned your bid. You won the SoCon and earned the autobid. The theme over the past few years has been more and more regionalization and with SCSU there in your state, and having finished stronger than some of the other bubble teams, they chose the Bulldogs. But I do believe Youngstown should have received the final bid.

[IBleedYellow]

xthumbsupx SDSU routing through Big Sky/Southland (rather than via Fargo) xthumbsupx

Jacks vs Jacks in the first round. Good thing that the runners are doing better in domes this season (altho I think only played USD in dome this season)

Overall, pretty good choices, though SHSU got a break, and YSU got woffed.

Get NAU Rabbits! YSU didn't get snubbed, they lost their last three of the season.

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[Mountaineer]

If you guys come to Fargo can we expect a good Paladin crowd?

Make sure to have your tailgate stocked with the finest wine and cheese. xsmugx

Although, Montana versus NDSU in the Quarters. Yes please. xprayx

[fencer24]

Like the selections or not, now the real season begins. I did find it interesting that Montana will only have one home game though. If the argument was the cash they bring is the reason for selection, seems they misthought.

[gumby013]

Lafayette: first team out.

Fordham should annihilate Sacred Heart. FU lost to us likely cost them the 8 seed.

The way NH plays hot or cold, the Pards have a shot at an upset.

[Professor Chaos]

3 potential intra-conference rematches in the 2nd round:

UNH/#5 Maine
SHSU/#4 SELA
TSU/#2 EIU

xsmhx They need to change that rule.

[PaladinFan]

You earned your bid. You won the SoCon and earned the autobid. The theme over the past few years has been more and more regionalization and with SCSU there in your state, and having finished stronger than some of the other bubble teams, they chose the Bulldogs. But I do believe Youngstown should have received the final bid.

I understand the regionalization argument, but South Carolina had three teams in and there were several others in the south east. They could have just as easily sent us to Coastal again.

[thirdgendin]

You earned your bid. You won the SoCon and earned the autobid. The theme over the past few years has been more and more regionalization and with SCSU there in your state, and having finished stronger than some of the other bubble teams, they chose the Bulldogs. But I do believe Youngstown should have received the final bid.

Of course we earned our bid, but regionalization has nothing to do with the selection of teams - only with the match ups and setting the bracket. Charleston Southern could've just as easily played Furman.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Like the selections or not, now the real season begins. I did find it interesting that Montana will only have one home game though. If the argument was the cash they bring is the reason for selection, seems they misthought.

They could barely justify a 8 seed. The only way to get you more is to get a higher seed and no way that was happening.

[IBleedYellow]

Make sure to have your tailgate stocked with the finest wine and cheese. xsmugx

Although, Montana versus NDSU in the Quarters. Yes please. xprayx

They will drink shots and like it!

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[Professor Chaos]

Why should YSU be in? They are on a three game losing streak to end the year. The committee got this mostly right, other than Montana.

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Because they put SCSU in instead. It's the entire body of work for the season that matters, not just the last few games.

[CPrice91]

Make sure to have your tailgate stocked with the finest wine and cheese. xsmugx

Although, Montana versus NDSU in the Quarters. Yes please. xprayx


I look forward to that blowout. Although UM has to beat CCU first.

[hebmskebm]

The NCAA has essentially said "You want to have more teams in the tournament, fine, but you're going to have more regionalization too." Really for everything except the D1 men's basketball tournament, the NCAA will penny pinch whenever possible.

[IBleedYellow]

Because they put SCSU in instead. It's the entire body of work for the season that matters, not just the last few games.

YSU lost to the teams that mattered in our conference this year. No reason for them to be in. We all talked about them having a back end loaded schedule, and it went down just like I expected.

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[fencer24]

They could barely justify a 8 seed. The only way to get you more is to get a higher seed and no way that was happening.

Which is my point. If you wanted the gate from two games, don't give Montana a seed, even if they are #4.

[Professor Chaos]

YSU lost to the teams that mattered in our conference this year. No reason for them to be in. We all talked about them having a back end loaded schedule, and it went down just like I expected.

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So did SCSU in their conference. The only MEAC team that mattered (Bethune-Cookman) beat them. I'm not saying YSU wasn't underwhelming to end the season, everyone could see that they were but they were more deserving of a playoff bid than SCSU was.

[eaglewraith]

3 potential intra-conference rematches in the 2nd round:

UNH/#5 Maine
SHSU/#4 SELA
TSU/#2 EIU

xsmhx They need to change that rule.

Thought they were making a point to avoid early rematches like that.

[RabidRabbit]

It's Univ of Northern Iowa (UNI). NIU is Northern Illinois U (a MAC team)

[ursus arctos horribilis]

Having trouble getting the banner to load at the top of the page but here's the link to dl the bracket. Let me know if I have anything incorrect as well please.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0At367yhHwedudDB5SXVjWF9xd1RoWVFyZFJoOXlaY lE&single=true&gid=0&output=html

[centennial]

Mad-Yes
Pissed-Yes
This has got to be the stupidest selections that I've seen ever. If any of you esteemed selection members are reading this thread for fun, go jump off a cliff..

[Professor Chaos]

Thought they were making a point to avoid early rematches like that.
That would be the right thing to do if you ask me but it's not the cheap thing to do so the NCAA doesn't do it. They wrote a loophole into the rules saying that intra-conference rematches are not allowed unless it is *BOTH* teams first playoff game. That needs to be changed to *EITHER* team's first playoff game.

[jacksfan29]

OVC gets more teams than MVFC.

Ridiculous.

That is rather sad. It does make picking the brackets easier. OVC v any power conference team = LOSS.

The fact that three OVC schools, 2 MEAC and SHSU got in only shows that Patty has no pull and that playing cupcake schedules may be the way to go if you want to impress the NCAA FCS playoff committee.

Of course there is an upside to only two getting in, at least SDSU is not headed to NDSU.

[Engineer86]

Hater in da house...

Explain how they deserve to be in. Who have they beaten. I would even argue Lehigh deserves it over SCSU and LU does not deserve it. Just give me one win that is worthy.

You are correct, I hate when a team that does not deserve a bid steals one.

[Mountaineer]

Having trouble getting the banner to load at the top of the page but here's the link to dl the bracket. Let me know if I have anything incorrect as well please.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0At367yhHwedudDB5SXVjWF9xd1RoWVFyZFJoOXlaY lE&single=true&gid=0&output=html

I'll be pulling for the McNeee St. Cowboys. :p

[hebmskebm]

They tried to make as many first and second round bus trips as possible (planes can't be avoided with the Big Sky and the Dakota teams obviously).

[IBleedYellow]

So did SCSU in their conference. The only MEAC team that mattered (Bethune-Cookman) beat them. I'm not saying YSU wasn't underwhelming to end the season, everyone could see that they were but they were more deserving of a playoff bid than SCSU was.

I'm not going to defend SCSU over YSU, I'm only saying I understand why YSU was left out, even at 8-4.

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[centennial]

That is rather sad. It does make picking the brackets easier. OVC v any power conference team = LOSS.

The fact that three OVC schools, 2 MEAC and SHSU got in only shows that Patty has no pull and that playing cupcake schedules may be the way to go if you want to impress the NCAA FCS playoff committee.

Of course there is an upside to only two getting in, at least SDSU is not headed to NDSU.

SDSU I hope you destroy the teams on the other side of the bracket. And I mean embarrass the hell out of them..

[maine612]

Thought they were making a point to avoid early rematches like that.

Cool avatar Eagle!

[Engineer86]

once Furman punched their ticket, SCSU started getting more serious looks.

Why?

[VTRAM]

First time Fordham poster here...

Obviously disappointed we didn't get a bye but can't make that big of a deal about it. Our resume was not clearly better than McNeese, Montana, N. Arizona, or anyone else in 5-8 range so it is what it is. I will ask the people here where you think a 12-0 Fordham team would have been seeded? a #5 seed? Clearly our team is a different animal with Nebrich playing so a win at Lafayette would have been a clear possibility.

That aside the regionalization of the bracket is a joke. Not only does it mess with seeding but it also sets up too many early inter-conference match-ups.

Northern Arizona got screwed. If they and Fordham are the two best teams to not get seeds then they should each host in round 1 and play a #8, #7, or #6 seed in round 2. Fordham got that deal. N. Arizona didn't. For them to get a SDSU int he first round then have to go to the #3 seed in round 2 is a joke. They should be going to Montana in round 2. If you want to avoid a rematch send them to McNeese.

[ursus arctos horribilis]

I'll be pulling for the McNeee St. Cowboys. :p

Oh for the love of God. Fixed. Been a frantic morning.

[centennial]

If SCSU went and played YSU or UNI I would expect a 40-14 type of score. Why should they be in at all?

[eaglewraith]

That would be the right thing to do if you ask me but it's not the cheap thing to do so the NCAA doesn't do it. They wrote a loophole into the rules saying that intra-conference rematches are not allowed unless it is *BOTH* teams first playoff game. That needs to be changed to *EITHER* team's first playoff game.

So isn't it impossible for this to happen with the format the way it is now? It would have to be the way your last statement puts it, otherwise this is a pointless rule.

[SDFS]

My statement was not that SELU did not belong, but that the MVFC maybe should have had another team in.

I think UNI is the 3rd best team in the MVFC and they are not the same team right now as early in the season. Injuries hurt them. YSU had lost to UNI, SDSU and NDSU and did not have a marquee win this year and very soft nonconference schedule minus the MSU game. Plus, the OVC carried a winning record over the MVFC. It really too bad about the UNI with the injuries. Again, they had a top 5 team and national championship caliber team this year until the injuries.

Best of luck to the MVFC teams, SDSU and NDSU will be tough outs this year.

[dbackjon]

That is rather sad. It does make picking the brackets easier. OVC v any power conference team = LOSS.

The fact that three OVC schools, 2 MEAC and SHSU got in only shows that Patty has no pull and that playing cupcake schedules may be the way to go if you want to impress the NCAA FCS playoff committee.

Of course there is an upside to only two getting in, at least SDSU is not headed to NDSU.

YSU played all cupcakes OOC.

[bisonguy]

That would be the right thing to do if you ask me but it's not the cheap thing to do so the NCAA doesn't do it. They wrote a loophole into the rules saying that intra-conference rematches are not allowed unless it is *BOTH* teams first playoff game. That needs to be changed to *EITHER* team's first playoff game.




They would be stupid to do that. For instance, the year the CAA had 5 teams in, there could have been 5/8 CAA teams in quarterfinal games.





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[R.A.]

I see. I missed that.


It's not hate, it's reasonable deduction. YSU, UNI, and Chatty all had stronger schedules and better quality wins than SCSU. What's your argument for SCSU's inclusion being valid?

Who needs to argue? They're in...

No use crying about it...

[centennial]

There has to be some kind of inter conference politics going on. I refuse to believe that every one of them are untrained monkeys.

[R.A.]

Explain how they deserve to be in. Who have they beaten. I would even argue Lehigh deserves it over SCSU and LU does not deserve it. Just give me one win that is worthy.

You are correct, I hate when a team that does not deserve a bid steals one.

SC State deserves it, hater.

[Red & Black]

Anyone want to speculate on the justification for Montana getting a seed over NAU, who finished #2 in the Big Sky with fewer conference losses (1 versus 2 for Montana), and a head to head win over the Griz? Seems like highway robbery to me.


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[ursus arctos horribilis]

Put the thread in a sticky in the FCSD forum for ease of finding it in case the red banner at the top of the page is not yet showing for some of you guys.

http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthread.php?148320-2013-Playoff-Brackets-Here

[jacksfan29]

YSU played all cupcakes OOC.

Did UNI? And please don't get into strength of schedule. The committee put in Jacksonville and SCSU.

[Professor Chaos]

So isn't it impossible for this to happen with the format the way it is now? It would have to be the way your last statement puts it, otherwise this is a pointless rule.
The only way it's impossible is if there are 9 or more teams from the same conference (that have all played each other) in the playoffs.


They would be stupid to do that. For instance, the year the CAA had 5 teams in, there could have been 5/8 CAA teams in quarterfinal games.
So? If the CAA has 5 of the 8 best performing teams in the playoffs then they should have 5 of the 8 quarterfinalists. It's not a beauty pageant where as many conferences as possible should be represented late in the playoffs.

[Bisonwinagn]

There has to be some kind of inter conference politics going on. I refuse to believe that every one of them are untrained monkeys.

Dude relax a little. I picked the entire bracket last night including the seeds. There were no surprises. I don't agree with some of the teams that got in, but they have been consistent with their selections over the years. The only thing I hate are the potential conference matchups in the second round. That needs to be changed immediately.

[Bisonwinagn]

Anyone want to speculate on the justification for Montana getting a seed over NAU, who finished #2 in the Big Sky with fewer conference losses (1 versus 2 for Montana), and a head to head win over the Griz? Seems like highway robbery to me.


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Montana was ranked higher in the polls and GPI all year.. Why are people surprised about this?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

SC State deserves it, hater.

Explain, is as many words as you need, why.

[jacksfan29]

Strength of schedule.

Of course Montana's reward? Going to play in the FFD. That seems like a gift to the Bison. Give Bohl and Co. no name patsies to start, and then bring in Montana. That place will be rocking for a very well known, quality opponent who; as far as I can tell, has never played in Fargo.


Anyone want to speculate on the justification for Montana getting a seed over NAU, who finished #2 in the Big Sky with fewer conference losses (1 versus 2 for Montana), and a head to head win over the Griz? Seems like highway robbery to me.


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[Engineer86]

SC State deserves it, hater.

Ha, in one post you say, "no point in arguing" the next post all you have to say is "hater". You prove the point that YOU just like SCSU are a joke. Please go,ahead and make one credible point about why SCSU warrants this bid over schools mentioned. I will wait, or is "hater" all you have to add to the discussion.

Go ahead, get some smoke coming out of those ears, you can come up with something. xcoffeex

[Red & Black]

Montana was ranked higher in the polls and GPI all year.. Why are people surprised about this?

I am surprised that things like computer models would be considered over things like fewer conference losses and a head to head matchup in which NAU pummeled Montana. So yes, surprised.


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[GoBlueHens83]

SC State deserves it, hater.

They beat 1 team with a winning record. How is that deserving of a playoff spot?

[Professor Chaos]

Who needs to argue? They're in...

No use crying about it...
That's the point of discussion boards... for discussion. My argument is that YSU was more deserving than SCSU. It appears you have no counter argument other than being a conference homer which I admit is part of the reason I'm pushing YSU but they have quality wins and schedule strength to back up my argument.

[WrenFGun]

There is really no reason that YSU should've gotten in. You cannot go 0-3 in your last four games and expect to make the playoffs, especially since your most significant win (Southern Illinois) isn't even eligible with six DI wins (which is why THEY didn't get in). There's no way Northern Iowa was getting in at 3-5 in their own conference. While I agree that the MVFC got unfairly represented in the field given the quality of their conference, none of those three teams had a good argument to get admitted.

My issues with the selection committee are effectively Sam Houston State (unless there is some lack of clarity on their counting situation, with 6 DI wins they should've been behind Southern Illinois if that was an option), Jacksonville State (they lost to Eastern Illinois AND Tennessee State, and their best win was over UTM, who didn't make the playoffs) and South Carolina State (no bad losses, but no good wins and only 8 of them).

IMO, there's an issue with those three teams being in the field. IMO, if you're considering an 8 DI win team with a questionable resume, Charleston Southern belonged over South Carolina State; same amount of losses, same amount of DI wins, but Chuck South has a win over Coastal. Additionally, I still think W&M should have been in ... they had 7 DI wins, they were .500 in conference and they have TWO wins over playoff teams. I also would've had Lehigh in over the three that got in, for consistencies sake ... 8 DI wins, win over a team in the playoffs, bad loss against Bucknell but extenuating circumstances.

So, IMO, I would've swapped Lehigh, W&M and Chuck South for SHSU, Jacksonville State and SC State.

[Professor Chaos]

There is really no reason that YSU should've gotten in. You cannot go 0-3 in your last four games and expect to make the playoffs, especially since your most significant win (Southern Illinois) isn't even eligible with six DI wins (which is why THEY didn't get in). There's no way Northern Iowa was getting in at 3-5 in their own conference. While I agree that the MVFC got unfairly represented in the field given the quality of their conference, none of those three teams had a good argument to get admitted.

My issues with the selection committee are effectively Sam Houston State (unless there is some lack of clarity on their counting situation, with 6 DI wins they should've been behind Southern Illinois if that was an option), Jacksonville State (they lost to Eastern Illinois AND Tennessee State, and their best win was over UTM, who didn't make the playoffs) and South Carolina State (no bad losses, but no good wins and only 8 of them).

IMO, there's an issue with those three teams being in the field. IMO, if you're considering an 8 DI win team with a questionable resume, Charleston Southern belonged over South Carolina State; same amount of losses, same amount of DI wins, but Chuck South has a win over Coastal. Additionally, I still think W&M should have been in ... they had 7 DI wins, they were .500 in conference and they have TWO wins over playoff teams. I also would've had Lehigh in over the three that got in, for consistencies sake ... 8 DI wins, win over a team in the playoffs, bad loss against Bucknell but extenuating circumstances.

So, IMO, I would've swapped Lehigh, W&M and Chuck South for SHSU, Jacksonville State and SC State.
6 D1 wins is the new requirement where teams with less "may" be in jeopardy of not being selected: http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/fcs+selections/fcs+bracket

[FargoBison]

There is really no reason that YSU should've gotten in. You cannot go 0-3 in your last four games and expect to make the playoffs, especially since your most significant win (Southern Illinois) isn't even eligible with six DI wins (which is why THEY didn't get in). There's no way Northern Iowa was getting in at 3-5 in their own conference. While I agree that the MVFC got unfairly represented in the field given the quality of their conference, none of those three teams had a good argument to get admitted.

My issues with the selection committee are effectively Sam Houston State (unless there is some lack of clarity on their counting situation, with 6 DI wins they should've been behind Southern Illinois if that was an option), Jacksonville State (they lost to Eastern Illinois AND Tennessee State, and their best win was over UTM, who didn't make the playoffs) and South Carolina State (no bad losses, but no good wins and only 8 of them).

IMO, there's an issue with those three teams being in the field. IMO, if you're considering an 8 DI win team with a questionable resume, Charleston Southern belonged over South Carolina State; same amount of losses, same amount of DI wins, but Chuck South has a win over Coastal. Additionally, I still think W&M should have been in ... they had 7 DI wins, they were .500 in conference and they have TWO wins over playoff teams. I also would've had Lehigh in over the three that got in, for consistencies sake ... 8 DI wins, win over a team in the playoffs, bad loss against Bucknell but extenuating circumstances.

So, IMO, I would've swapped Lehigh, W&M and Chuck South for SHSU, Jacksonville State and SC State.

You can't advocate for YSU being left out and then at the same time advocate for Charleston Southern to be put in.

W&M wasn't even the most deserving 7-5 team.

[centennial]

Dude relax a little. I picked the entire bracket last night including the seeds. There were no surprises. I don't agree with some of the teams that got in, but they have been consistent with their selections over the years. The only thing I hate are the potential conference matchups in the second round. That needs to be changed immediately.
As a bison fan I am happy that we got #1 and have an easy road. As a football fan, some of the deserving teams got screwed. SC State had a member on the committee which is why they got in.
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/fcs+selections/fcs+committee
Plus the SRS polls are a deeply flawed system.
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-srs-poll

[DSUrocks07]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I would have taken YSU over SC State, hell, I would have taken Chuck South over SC State.

A lost to Coastal, a loss to BCU, and a D2 does not an at-large make, especially from the MEAC

But 22,000 attendance is a hard number to turn down for the NCAA. $$$$

Should be called the "Montana rule". One of the tiebreaker scenarios for playoff selection is your potential home attendance. xcoffeex

[UNHknowledge]

Not to mention I would think they'd get Lehigh in on principle for snubbing them last year at 10-1, but I guess the argument against them is that you absolutely can NOT lose 2 Patriot League games and make the playoffs, which is probably fair.

[WrenFGun]

You can't advocate for YSU being left out and then at the same time advocate for Charleston Southern to be put in.

W&M wasn't even the most deserving 7-5 team.

Chuck South lost 2 in a row (2 bad ones), not 3. They also had a better win than YSU.

W&M was the only 7-5 team I saw that had a .500 conference record, 7 DI wins, and a quality win.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Like I said before, I love the way this bracket looks. For as stupid as it is, it looks pretty dang easy for NDSU.

I love Texas in January.

[R.A.]

Ha, in one post you say, "no point in arguing" the next post all you have to say is "hater". You prove the point that YOU just like SCSU are a joke. Please go,ahead and make one credible point about why SCSU warrants this bid over schools mentioned. I will wait, or is "hater" all you have to add to the discussion.

Go ahead, get some smoke coming out of those ears, you can come up with something. xcoffeex

Still hating?

Get over it.

[centennial]

Chuck South lost 2 in a row (2 bad ones), not 3. They also had a better win than YSU.

W&M was the only 7-5 team I saw that had a .500 conference record, 7 DI wins, and a quality win.
I my opinion even SIU deserved it more than SC State. UNI and YSU more than W&M. Either way I wouldn't feel as bad if it were W&M at least.

[DSUrocks07]

They beat 1 team with a winning record. How is that deserving of a playoff spot?

Their most impressive win is....Morgan?

Yeah, I got nothin'

xscanx

[FargoBison]

Chuck South lost 2 in a row (2 bad ones), not 3. They also had a better win than YSU.

W&M was the only 7-5 team I saw that had a .500 conference record, 7 DI wins, and a quality win.

They have three horrific losses and I am not saying YSU should be in either. It is just they are the same, two struggling teams but at least YSU isn't getting pummeled by bad teams.

[R.A.]

That's the point of discussion boards... for discussion. My argument is that YSU was more deserving than SCSU. It appears you have no counter argument other than being a conference homer which I admit is part of the reason I'm pushing YSU but they have quality wins and schedule strength to back up my argument.

No, I have MANY counterpoints.

I just don't feel like turning this into a huge debate on race and equality, that's all.

It is what it is...

[DSUrocks07]

No, I have MANY counterpoints.

I just don't feel like turning this into a huge debate on race and equality, that's all.

It is what it is...

xnutsxxnutsxxnutsxxnutsx

seriously?

[centennial]

No, I have MANY counterpoints.

I just don't feel like turning this into a huge debate on race and equality, that's all.

It is what it is...
How has this to with anything about race and equality? Leave your tin foil hat at home. You possibly posted the worst post I've seen on AGS in my 5 years lurking and few days of posting here.

[Professor Chaos]

No, I have MANY counterpoints.

I just don't feel like turning this into a huge debate on race and equality, that's all.

It is what it is...
This is not politics and politics shouldn't play a role in the selection process but, unfortunately, there's probably some validity to your points.

[Mr. C]

People need to realize that seldom do the historical auto bid conferences (not the ones who are new to the process, like the NEC, the Big South and the PFL) almost always get their co-champions into the field. Hence, South Carolina State (as I predicted) made it in as MEAC co-champs. Chattanooga being overlooked as a Southern Conference co-champ is the first time that a SoCon champ has been snubbed. A lot of alliances always work in these things, you vote for my team and I've vote for your team.

[DSUrocks07]

People need to realize that seldom do the historical auto bid conferences (not the ones who are new to the process, like the NEC, the Big South and the PFL) almost always get their co-champions into the field. Hence, South Carolina State (as I predicted) made it in as MEAC co-champs. Chattanooga being overlooked as a Southern Conference co-champ is the first time that a SoCon champ has been snubbed. A lot of alliances always work in these things, you vote for my team and I've vote for your team.

SC State being represented on the committee really helped them then.

[R.A.]

How has this to with anything about race and equality? Leave your tin foil hat at home. You possibly posted the worst post I've seen on AGS in my 5 years lurking and few days of posting here.

Most of you can't see it. So it's definitely no use in arguing over it.

The committee did the right thing.

SC State EARNED their bid.

Stop hating. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

[centennial]

Most of you can't see it. So it's definitely no use in arguing over it.

The committee did the right thing.

SC State EARNED their bid.

Stop hating. Don't hate the players, hate the game.
No they did not earn it. Who is hating on the players? We are just hating the politics Charlene M. Johnson had to pull to get your team in.
Let me spell it out to you-
No one, and I mean no one gives a crap about what color the players on the team are. You were picked over 5 teams(possibly more) that deserved it more than you. That is it. Why don't you make the argument about how you are better than all of them? Or even 1 or 2. Instead you talk in hypotheticals and present false arguments.

[Darlinikki150]

Well I'm at awake after a brutal Saturday of bud light pounders, game, nap, the bud light til the wee hours of the morn. Little worse for wear, but I see a nice road to Frisco for us Bison fans. I do not like Montana seed, not entirely sure why a second round match up of Maine/UNH is done, pretty lame. Figured SDSU would have to play through the BSC. Idk, I mean the KittyCats are in, but barely. Just not real excited about the whole bracket, but I'm still kinda foggy. Who's gonna stop us? Hmm, must eat get caffeine and study this bracket more.

[DSUrocks07]

Most of you can't see it. So it's definitely no use in arguing over it.

The committee did the right thing.

SC State EARNED their bid.

Stop hating. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

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[eaglewraith]

Most of you can't see it. So it's definitely no use in arguing over it.

The committee did the right thing.

SC State EARNED their bid.

Stop hating. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

Until the MEAC does something in the playoffs, these conversations will always happen.

I don't care what color anyone is, if you do poorly in the playoffs year in and year out, I'm going to question why you're still getting someone into the field.

[birdsflyhigh]

Always love this time of year when it's time for the annual MVFC you're getting screwed over again. Put SC St. into the MVFC this season and they MIGHT have been around WIU's level.

I agree that having a SC St rep on the selection committee was the difference, and this must be a conference alliance thing.


Glad the MVFC was power ranked #1 from beginning of the season to the end. Ah, to heck with that....really? I would love to see SC St line up with WIU and see who comes out on top.

[WrenFGun]

No, I have MANY counterpoints.

I just don't feel like turning this into a huge debate on race and equality, that's all.

It is what it is...

You mean, having no counterpoints is what it is?

[R.A.]

No they did not earn it. Who is hating on the players? We are just hating the politics Charlene M. Johnson had to pull to get your team in.
Let me spell it out to you-
No one, and I mean no one gives a crap about what color the players on the team are. You were picked over 5 teams(possibly more) that deserved it more than you. That is it. Why don't you make the argument about how you are better than all of them? Or even 1 or 2. .

That is an argument that will be made on Saturday by The Bulldogs versus Furman.

And if you were watching the show, somebody DOES care about the fact that three HBCUs are in the Playoffs, for if no one cared, the fact would not have been mentioned during the selection show...

But now you're hating on AD Johnson, because she did her job by pulling for her school...

You're just mad, filled with hate.

Again, don't hate the player, hate the game.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Most of you can't see it. So it's definitely no use in arguing over it.

The committee did the right thing.

SC State EARNED their bid.

Stop hating. Don't hate the players, hate the game.

You have managed to type a lot of words and say nothing.

[centennial]

Always love this time of year when it's time for the annual MVFC you're getting screwed over again. Put SC St. into the MVFC this season and they MIGHT have been around WIU's level.

I agree that having a SC St rep on the selection committee was the difference, and this must be a conference alliance thing.


Glad the MVFC was power ranked #1 from beginning of the season to the end. Ah, to heck with that....really? I would love to see SC St line up with WIU and see who comes out on top.
I would expect WIU to beat them; and the USD to kill them, something like a 42-7 score.

[R.A.]

Until the MEAC does something in the playoffs, these conversations will always happen.

I don't care what color anyone is, if you do poorly in the playoffs year in and year out, I'm going to question why you're still getting someone into the field.

I could ask the OVC with three teams in the same question, but of course... LET'S ALL TEAM UP AND BASH THE MEAC... BECAUSE IN REALITY, WE HATE THE MEAC...

Hop off our di*ks please and worry about your own contests.

[centennial]

That is an argument that will be made on Saturday by The Bulldogs versus Furman.

And if you were watching the show, somebody DOES care about the fact that three HBCUs are in the Playoffs, for if no one cared, the fact would not have been mentioned during the selection show...

But now you're hating on AD Johnson, because she did her job by pulling for her school...

You're just mad, filled with hate.

Again, don't hate the player, hate the game.
Affirmative action in playoffs? If your theory has any validity, we have already lost.

[R.A.]

You have managed to type a lot of words and say nothing.

I did say "I don't want to argue."

I already said that...

You all just want to pick a fight... silly posters.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I was effortlessly able to come up with 10 different travesties that involve this year's bracket, and I didn't even mention Lehigh.

[DSUrocks07]

I would expect WIU to beat them; and the USD to kill them, something like a 42-7 score.

All of this "MEAC" bravado is going to make it very awkward if we go 0-fer again....just saying.

Best way for SC State to avoid this controversy? Schedule a WIU or a USD and beat them. Instead of Benedict...

[dwtime]

The way NH plays hot or cold, the Pards have a shot at an upset.

Definitely could, but UNH has been pretty good at home this season.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

I did say "I don't want to argue."

I already said that...

You all just want to pick a fight... silly posters.

and you want to make this some kind of weird race thing.

Good thing we won't be talking about MEAC a week from today.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

Northern Arizona got screwed.

Plus, the Missouri Valley only getting 2 in is a joke. At least SDSU is on the opposite bracket.

[goyotes]

I don't so much have a problem with the MVFC only getting 2 teams in the playoffs as the teams that didn't make it have only themselves to blame. What I have a problem with is the huge number of teams that made the playoffs without really accomplishing anything during the season and that have zero chance of competing for the title, much less winning a game in the playoffs. The expanded playoff field has made things worse and not better. In my opinion the playoff field should be capped at 16 teams and not all conferences (especially non scholarship) should have an automatic qualifier.

[centennial]

On another note.. did someone DVR the show? Please post links. I will be grateful.

[DSUrocks07]

Equality = favoritism in the 21st century

Can't make it on your own merits? No problem, we'll give you special benefits. xbangx

If that's the case, then they might as well go to 28 teams and have the "first round" be 4 games and fewer "seeds" get a bye.

Oh and the MEAC gets a guaranteed at-large every year, despite whatever their record is, because they need help and can't make it in on their own. xcoffeex

[R.A.]

and you want to make this some kind of weird race thing.

Good thing we won't be talking about MEAC a week from today.

Good thing GameDay went to North Dakota State, otherwise... America wouldn't know that "NoDak" exists.

[UNHknowledge]

People need to realize that seldom do the historical auto bid conferences (not the ones who are new to the process, like the NEC, the Big South and the PFL) almost always get their co-champions into the field. Hence, South Carolina State (as I predicted) made it in as MEAC co-champs. Chattanooga being overlooked as a Southern Conference co-champ is the first time that a SoCon champ has been snubbed. A lot of alliances always work in these things, you vote for my team and I've vote for your team.

Happened last year in the CAA, a far more powerful conference than the MEAC (I don't need to defend that statement, it's fact). Richmond was left home last season as a co-champ with 8 wins including a win against #2 JMU, and a 1 TD loss to #4 ODU. So yeah, I see why people are confused, bewildered, and frustrated with SCSU being part of the field.

[Bison56]

Good thing GameDay went to North Dakota State, otherwise... America wouldn't know that "NoDak" exists.
Wow what a dunce.xholyx

[Darlinikki150]

Good thing GameDay went to North Dakota State, otherwise... America wouldn't know that "NoDak" exists.

Quit hating....

[WrenFGun]

Happened last year in the CAA, a far more powerful conference than the MEAC (I don't need to defend that statement, it's fact). Richmond was left home last season as a co-champ with 8 wins including a win against #2 JMU, and a 1 TD loss to #4 ODU. So yeah, I see why people are confused, bewildered, and frustrated with SCSU being part of the field.

Believe Towson was also a co-champ left out.

[Bison Fan in NW MN]

and you want to make this some kind of weird race thing.

Good thing we won't be talking about MEAC a week from today.


MEAC = 2 losses in playoffs

Hope SCSU somehow wins that game. NDSU will piss-pound them.....2nd and 3rds will get a lot of valuable playing time.

[Engineer86]

Still hating?

Get over it.

Waiting, for you to show brain waves ... xcoffeex I do hate when life support forces someone to life a senseless life. You should have signed a living will. xnodx

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Good thing GameDay went to North Dakota State, otherwise... America wouldn't know that "NoDak" exists.

So much talk for a fan of a team that got beat by Delaware St, which lost 51-0 at the no name NDSU.

[R.A.]

Equality = favoritism in the 21st century

Can't make it on your own merits? No problem, we'll give you special benefits. xbangx

If that's the case, then they might as well go to 28 teams and have the "first round" be 4 games and fewer "seeds" get a bye.

Oh and the MEAC gets a guaranteed at-large every year, despite whatever their record is, because they need help and can't make it in on their own. xcoffeex

This from a poster from the school that allowed Delaware to convince the Hornets to NEVER PLAY THEIR ANNUAL RIVALRY GAME IN DOVER BECAUSE DELAWARE STATE'S STADIUM IS TOO SMALL...

"Own Merits," f- outta here.

As many advantages and resources as some of these other schools have??

Are you serious right now?

"Own Merits," gtfohwts...

FBS programs how don't have the balls to move up from the FCS are what most of these playoff teams are.

You think that's not obvious?

[Engineer86]

No, I have MANY counterpoints.

I just don't feel like turning this into a huge debate on race and equality, that's all.

It is what it is...

There it is, I knew all the "hating" comments had a hidden meaning. What a joke.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

This from a poster from the school that allowed Delaware to convince the Hornets to NEVER PLAY THEIR ANNUAL RIVALRY GAME IN DOVER BECAUSE DELAWARE STATE'S STADIUM IS TOO SMALL...

"Own Merits," f- outta here.

As many advantages and resources as some of these other schools have??

Are you serious right now?

"Own Merits," gtfohwts...

FBS programs how don't have the balls to move up from the FCS are what most of these playoff teams are.

You think that's not obvious?

Must be a Howard thing. Jay Walker doesn't sound terribly bright either.

[bisonguy]

The only way it's impossible is if there are 9 or more teams from the same conference (that have all played each other) in the playoffs.


So? If the CAA has 5 of the 8 best performing teams in the playoffs then they should have 5 of the 8 quarterfinalists. It's not a beauty pageant where as many conferences as possible should be represented late in the playoffs.




Yeah, you're handicapping the bracket simply because they're in the same conference and possibly giving them favorable matchups.

If anything, seed the entire field 1-24 and then make the bracket. What conference a team is from should have absolutely no bearing on where they are placed in the bracket. The "either" rule is bad enough, but I understand the reasoning. If a "both" rule would be used, that would make the bracket an even bigger joke by forcing matchups that wouldn't normally be in the bracket.



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[R.A.]

Waiting, for your to show brain waves ... xcoffeex I do hate when life support forces someone to life a senseless life. You should have signed a living will. xnodx

Now you think you're worthy enough for me to feel I have to prove my intelligence to you?

HA!

You're... who again?

The arrogance of some of you posters...

[centennial]

This from a poster from the school that allowed Delaware to convince the Hornets to NEVER PLAY THEIR ANNUAL RIVALRY GAME IN DOVER BECAUSE DELAWARE STATE'S STADIUM IS TOO SMALL...

"Own Merits," f- outta here.

As many advantages and resources as some of these other schools have??

Are you serious right now?

"Own Merits," gtfohwts...

FBS programs how don't have the balls to move up from the FCS are what most of these playoff teams are.

You think that's not obvious?

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.

[Darlinikki150]

This from a poster from the school that allowed Delaware to convince the Hornets to NEVER PLAY THEIR ANNUAL RIVALRY GAME IN DOVER BECAUSE DELAWARE STATE'S STADIUM IS TOO SMALL...

"Own Merits," f- outta here.

As many advantages and resources as some of these other schools have??

Are you serious right now?

"Own Merits," gtfohwts...

FBS programs how don't have the balls to move up from the FCS are what most of these playoff teams are.

You think that's not obvious?

Are you high? Your argument is ridic, if I'm following you, you think the top tier FCS programs should all just leave so your team can have a chance? I mean that's just ludricous...

[R.A.]

Must be a Howard thing. Jay Walker doesn't sound terribly bright either.

Lol... you're a joke.

[DSUrocks07]

Now you think you're worthy enough for me to feel I have to prove my intelligence to you?

HA!

You're... who again?

The arrogance of some of you posters...

Hello Pot, I'd like for you to meet my friend, Kettle. xcoffeex

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Are you high? Your argument is ridic, if I'm following you, you think the top tier FCS programs should all just leave so your team can have a chance? I mean that's just ludricous...

Maybe Howard should move down to DII where they belong.

[UNHknowledge]

Believe Towson was also a co-champ left out.

YES! Thank you for reminding me. They were a 7-4 team but two of those losses were to FBS Bowl teams (Kent, and LSU), and they only loss to LSU by 2 possessions. So yeah, the teams left out this year have nothing on Towson, Richmond, and Lehigh (Patriot League) being left out last year. SCSU being in this year is wacky. It almost makes the BCS look like a more fair assessment of validating teams. Of course I don't actually like the BCS, but heck it doesn't have the subjective element that the NCAA selection committee obviously does.

I also agree with a previous poster who said that the field being expanded to 24 is a bad thing. I totally agree. It's silly. There's no way an NEC or Pioneer team will EVER win a national title, until they are full scholly programs. It's stupid like March Madness being 64 teams; a 16 seed will never beat a 1 seed in that ridiculous tournament. Our precious FCS playoff system is also turning into "madness" as the field expands.

[Engineer86]

I did say "I don't want to argue."

I already said that...

You all just want to pick a fight... silly posters.

You add no value to the board, then bring up race. Please someone use you hammer.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Lol... you're a joke.

This is exciting! We have another chattown! I was afraid we were going to miss him

[R.A.]

Maybe Howard should move down to DII where they belong.

And now you're attacking Howard...

The hate continues...

Irony, since the MEAC has been in the FCS much longer than North Dakota State.
Howard's been in the FCS since the start of the FCS...

Yet, you say that WE don't belong... hilarious.

[DSUrocks07]

This from a poster from the school that allowed Delaware to convince the Hornets to NEVER PLAY THEIR ANNUAL RIVALRY GAME IN DOVER BECAUSE DELAWARE STATE'S STADIUM IS TOO SMALL...

"Own Merits," f- outta here.

As many advantages and resources as some of these other schools have??

Are you serious right now?

"Own Merits," gtfohwts...

FBS programs how don't have the balls to move up from the FCS are what most of these playoff teams are.

You think that's not obvious?

Yes, Delaware State should have demanded to host Delaware in a 7,000 seat HS stadium that we don't even sell out AT ALL. xawesomex

A stadium, mind you, that is on a landlocked campus, with only two legit entrances to even GET over to the stadium (one that they close on gamedays), in a city that suffers from gridlock traffic at any given time of the day. That when they hosted a music festival that was on the OTHER SIDE of town, traffic was backed up 20 miles in all directions. xawesomex

Yeah that would have been a brilliant idea. xcoffeex

[Engineer86]

I don't so much have a problem with the MVFC only getting 2 teams in the playoffs as the teams that didn't make it have only themselves to blame. What I have a problem with is the huge number of teams that made the playoffs without really accomplishing anything during the season and that have zero chance of competing for the title, much less winning a game in the playoffs. The expanded playoff field has made things worse and not better. In my opinion the playoff field should be capped at 16 teams and not all conferences (especially non scholarship) should have an automatic qualifier.

After now seeing what happened with the expanded tournament, I have to agree. They should stop at 11 and make league earn an auto bid. Past performance by the league and current strength of schedule and performance should be considered.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

And now you're attacking Howard...

The hate continues...

Irony, since the MEAC has been in the FCS much longer than North Dakota State.
Howard's been in the FCS since the start of the FCS...

Yet, you say that WE don't belong... hilarious.

You started by saying we don't belong. Just like you started talking about how everybody is hating then going off yourself.

You are going to be fun.