Jeff Sagarin NCAA football ratings...

[Live4Griz]

I-AA squads moving up!!:hurray:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm

[Uncle Buck]

Wow, Hofstra all the way down in the 150's and UD right there with them. Not speaking for UD, but man do we stink.

[th0m]

Top 100:

#33 Montana
#46 UNH
#48 YSU
#51 SIU
#57 ASU
#60 UMass
#69 Cal Poly
#70 Maine
#71 UNI
#72 NDSU
#77 San Diego
#85 UC Davis
#87 Richmond
#89 PSU
#95 JMU

[Hansel]

Top 100:

#33 Montana
#46 UNH
#48 YSU
#51 SIU
#57 ASU
#60 UMass
#69 Cal Poly
#70 Maine
#71 UNI
#72 NDSU
#77 San Diego
#85 UC Davis
#87 Richmond
#89 PSU
#95 JMU
UNI and Mont State will be overrated cuz' Saggy don't count DII games :)

[DB_Atlantic10]

Way to go Montana....#33 is quite impressive.....

[birdsflyhigh]

Wouldn't be so quick to knock UNI because they are just now beginning to hit their stride. The Panthers are getting it together now by playing better D. Also ISU's Redbirds only rank at #21 on the Sagarin I-AA list, but we'll have a shot to really springboard this weekend against the #3 I-AA ranked SIU.

It's ISU's homecoming, and the Redbirds are licking their chops to get a big win over the undefeated Salukis. :nod:

[Hansel]

Wouldn't be so quick to knock UNI because they are just now beginning to hit their stride. The Panthers are getting it together now by playing better D. Also ISU's Redbirds only rank at #21 on the Sagarin I-AA list, but we'll have a shot to really springboard this weekend against the #3 I-AA ranked SIU.

It's ISU's homecoming, and the Redbirds are licking their chops to get a big win over the undefeated Salukis. :nod:
not knocking UNI

just saying Sagarin does not include DII games in the rankings- normally it isn't a big deal since most top IAA's win. In this care however both UNI and Mont St have a loss omitted from the data used to create their rating

[TexasTerror]

Southland Conference Ratings

132 Sam Houston State AA = 57.66
159 Northwestern State AA = 50.42
169 Nicholls State AA = 48.88
173 Stephen F. Austin AA = 48.68
184 McNeese State AA = 47.06
206 SE Louisiana AA = 40.25
221 Texas State AA = 33.59

[CatFan22]

How can they put UM behind UNH?

[Chi Panther]

not knocking UNI

just saying Sagarin does not include DII games in the rankings- normally it isn't a big deal since most top IAA's win. In this care however both UNI and Mont St have a loss omitted from the data used to create their rating

I agree Hansel.....UNI is over-rated.....

However....something that I still believe people have forgot and I don't want this to sounds like an excuse....But UNI lost their Defensive Coordinator and DB Couch/Recruiting Coordinator to Missouri State after the Championship game. When I take that into consideration....and we have 4 new starters on Defense since the SDSU game......I think the ship is finally back on course....but choppy waters are definately ahead......painful to think how we lost against UND and ISU.....

[Hansel]

I agree Hansel.....UNI is over-rated.....

However....something that I still believe people have forgot and I don't want this to sounds like an excuse....But UNI lost their Defensive Coordinator and DB Couch/Recruiting Coordinator to Missouri State after the Championship game. When I take that into consideration....and we have 4 new starters on Defense since the SDSU game......I think the ship is finally back on course....but choppy waters are definately ahead......painful to think how we lost against UND and ISU.....
we'll find out how good UNI is soon after a bye this week (Ind St) they have a difficult stretch to end the season

10/21/2006 @Youngstown State
10/28/2006 Western Illinois
11/4/2006 Western Kentucky
11/11/2006 @Southern Illinois
11/18/2006 Illinois State

[Chi Panther]

we'll find out how good UNI is soon after a bye this week (Ind St) they have a difficult stretch to end the season

10/21/2006 @Youngstown State
10/28/2006 Western Illinois
11/4/2006 Western Kentucky
11/11/2006 @Southern Illinois
11/18/2006 Illinois State


agreed....hence the choppy waters.....just want to keep ags educated....

[FlyYtown]

Go Penguins... #3 of all I-AA Schools and boy: Montana! 33rd is amazing!

[Hansel]

forgot to mention that the Great West is #1 in Saggy's ratings :nod:

(again a bit skewed since SDSU lost to a DIII which is not counted)

[1Aneedsplayoffs]

How can they put UM behind UNH?

Easy

[Hansel]

How can they put UM behind UNH?
actually UM is ahead of UNH................

[blackfordpu]

Southland Conference Ratings

132 Sam Houston State AA = 57.66
159 Northwestern State AA = 50.42
169 Nicholls State AA = 48.88
173 Stephen F. Austin AA = 48.68
184 McNeese State AA = 47.06
206 SE Louisiana AA = 40.25
221 Texas State AA = 33.59

Sucks, but not suprising.:o

[shakdaddy3]

does the sagarin rating have any affect on anything? just wondering...

[ThreadStopper]

I will take 0-5 San Diego State (143) over 5-0 San Diego (77) :)

[AZGrizFan]

This model is nuts. He must think the Pac-10 is NFL level football....4 of the top 5 SOS schools are in the Pac-10! That's a joke. The Pac-10 is USC and Cal, then EVERYBODY else.

And Montana's SOS is tougher than 5 of the top 25 teams in the nation? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: And they're (the top 25) presumably playing 10 or 11 I-A schools?

[ASU Kep]

I think the Sag has been taken out of the GPI (which they pretty much use to determine the play-off field after the auto's), so...no...it's all for s--ts and giggles.

[CatFan22]

actually UM is ahead of UNH................

Sorry. That's what I meant.
Let me rephrase that: How can they put UNH behind UM?

[*****]

I think the Sag has been taken out of the GPI (which they pretty much use to determine the play-off field after the auto's), so...no...it's all for s--ts and giggles.Naw, Sag is still in the GPI... otherwise it is a I-A lovefest rating.

[Mr. C]

Those of us who know the talent level of Southern Illinois and that of Appalachian State know that ranking SIU 51 and ASU 57 is ridiculous. App State would shred SIU's defense, just like it did in last year's playoffs. Sagrin puts way too much emphasis on strength of schedule and, for I-AA teams, playing I-As. Any rating that doesn't have New Hampshire and Appalachian State at the top of the I-AAs is pretty silly. While I have a lot of respect for Montana, ranking them 33rd in Division I is a bit much. I would rank them fairly close behind UNH and ASU, however.

[Mr. C]

Naw, Sag is still in the GPI... otherwise it is a I-A lovefest rating.
Why? I never have been much of a believer in his system.

[shakdaddy3]

i gotta say, these computer polls are not very good... maybe it is too early for them do a good job, but these rankings are fairly rediculous and it's sad if it helps determine who makes the playoffs...