Men's Basketball Updates 2013-2014

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh beat Bucknell 66-63! Lehigh is now back to .500 (11-11) for the season....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple got their first EVER AAC win tonight! The Owls took down Rutgers 88-82. Hopefully this gives us some confidence heading into our annual battle with Villanova on Saturday....

[darell1976]

UND beats EWU in Cheney 73-61 to improve to 6-3, 9-10 and alone in 3rd place. Next up at Portland State Saturday night.

[bonarae]

Harvard survives Princeton in Lavietes 82-76. On to face Penn tomorrow, still at Lavietes.

[Twentysix]

NDSU beats USD improves to 16-5 overall.

USD falls to 8-12 overall.

[melloware13]

Delaware opened February with a win, their tenth in a row, 66-65 over UNC-Wilmington. Next up for the Hens (16-7, 8-0 CAA), closing out the season series with Northeastern in Newark on Monday. Next up for the Seahawks (6-16, 0-7 CAA), a trip to Philadelphia to take on Drexel on Monday.

Other CAA Scores:
Charleston 67, Hofstra 49
Towson 75, Drexel 73

[Twentysix]

Omaha forgoes their final shot electing a shot clock violation to beat Indianapolis 99-71.

[ngineer]

Lehigh stormed back from a 15 point deficit at halftime to beat Boston University in Boston, 82-80 in OT! Mountain Hawks were down 40-25 at the half and looked completely out of sync, as well as having foul trouble with both McKnight and Kempton. Lehigh now 12-11 on the season and 5-5 in PL.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple fell to #9 Villanova 90-74 today in Philly. The win gives the Wildcats the Big 5 championship this year....

[melloware13]

CAA Standings:
1. Delaware (16-7, 8-0 CAA)
2. Towson (14-8, 5-2 CAA) [-2.5]
3. Wiliam & Mary (12-8, 4-3 CAA) [-3.5]
4. Charleston (12-11, 4-4 CAA) [-4]
5. Northeastern (7-15, 4-4 CAA) [-4]
6. James Madison (8-13, 3-4 CAA) [-4.5]
7. Drexel (11-10, 3-5 CAA) [-5]
8. Hofstra (7-16, 3-5 CAA) [-5]
9. UNC-Wilmington (6-16, 0-7 CAA) [-7.5]

Sunday, February 2
William & Mary @ James Madison - 2:30 PM - NBC Sports Network

Monday, February 3
Northeastern @ Delaware - 7 PM - Hens All-Access
UNC-Wilmington @ Drexel - 7 PM - DTV

Tuesday, February 4
James Madison @ Towson - 7 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSS, SNY (tape-delay)

Wednesday, February 5
William & Mary @ UNC-Wilmington - 7 PM - Hawk Vision
Hofstra @ Northeastern - 7 PM - GoNUxstream
Charleston @ Delaware - 7 PM - Hens All-Access

Saturday, February 8
James Madison @ Drexel - 2 PM - DTV
Charleston @ Towson - 2 PM - CSN-MA, TCN-P, CSN-NE, CSS, SNY (tape-delay)
William & Mary @ Northeastern - 7 PM - GoNUxstream
UNC-Wilmington @ Hofstra - 7 PM

[bonarae]

Harvard dumped Penn at Lavietes 80-50. 14-Game Tournament continues with Brown, still at home, on Friday.

[Twentysix]

NDSU falls to denver on the road. 67-64.

[Ivytalk]

Harvard dumped Penn at Lavietes 80-50. 14-Game Tournament continues with Brown, still at home, on Friday.

And Princeton drops another, this time at Dartmouth! Three straight Ivy losses now for the Tiggers, who appear to be out of it already.

[darell1976]

UND fell to Portland State 70-68 to drop to 6-4, 9-11 and in 4th place in the BSC. Next up UND is at first place Weber St Thursday night.

[813Jag]

Southern wins their 12th game of the season defeating Alcorn 62-54

[melloware13]

With 21 points tonight, Devon Saddler broke the school's career scoring record (2031) in Delaware's 80-67 win over Northeastern. Next up for the Hens (17-7, 9-0 CAA), their first meeting with CAA-newcomer Charleston in Newark on Wednesday. Next up for the Huskies (7-16, 4-5 CAA), a home meeting with Hofstra on Wednesday.

Other CAA Score:
Drexel 61, UNC-Wilmington 50

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

With 21 points tonight, Devon Saddler broke the school's career scoring record (2031) in Delaware's 80-67 win over Northeastern. Next up for the Hens (17-7, 9-0 CAA), their first meeting with CAA-newcomer Charleston in Newark on Wednesday. Next up for the Huskies (7-16, 4-5 CAA), a home meeting with Hofstra on Wednesday.

Other CAA Score:
Drexel 61, UNC-Wilmington 50

This has to be Delaware's best team since Brey was there. Didn't he have a team that spent time in the Top 25 in the late 90's? I think Jay Wright had a Hofstra team around the same time that was ranked too.

[813Jag]

With 21 points tonight, Devon Saddler broke the school's career scoring record (2031) in Delaware's 80-67 win over Northeastern. Next up for the Hens (17-7, 9-0 CAA), their first meeting with CAA-newcomer Charleston in Newark on Wednesday. Next up for the Huskies (7-16, 4-5 CAA), a home meeting with Hofstra on Wednesday.

Other CAA Score:
Drexel 61, UNC-Wilmington 50
How's Davon Usher doing?

[melloware13]

Delaware came back from down 20 with 8 to go to beat Charleston 67-64, lead by Davon Usher's Bob Carpenter Center team-record 42 points. Next up for the Hens (18-7, 10-0 CAA), the completion of the season series with James Madison in Newark next Wednesday. Next up for the Cougars (12-12, 4-5 CAA), a trip to Towson to take on Towson on Saturday.

Other CAA Scores:
Northeastern 81, Hofstra 73
William & Mary 54, UNC-Wilmington 50

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple is in Dallas tonight to take on SMU....

[Twentysix]

NDSU and gooeypooey hit the hardwood tonight.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

SMU crushed Temple 75-52 tonight. The Owls are a horrific 6-15 overall, 1-8 in AAC play...

[Twentysix]

NDSU beats Gooeypooey and moves back into first place in the SL.

The number ones battle on Saturday (17-6) NDSU vs (18-7) IPFW.

Likely SDSU (13-10) will move into a tie for #2 Saturday Night.

[darell1976]

UND fell to Weber St 84-72 to drop to 6-5, 9-12. UND plays at Idaho St on Saturday. There is a 4 team tie for third place. With 9 games left the conference race will come down to the wire.

[blukeys]

How's Davon Usher doing?

I consider Usher the team's MVP. He carried the team during the Sadler suspension. Now 2 other players are serving suspensions and he is carrying the team. Devon Sadler is an absolute stud but Usher has been the glue for this team.

[bonarae]

Harvard continues its dominance in the 14 Game Tournament by beating Brown 52-45. It's Yale for the final game of the homestand tomorrow. Then we're on the road until Feb. 22.

[Ivytalk]

Holy crap! Princeton loses again, at home to Columbia!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Shocker in the PL today. Lowly Colgate went into DC and beat previously league unbeaten American 63-60 this afternoon.

Lehigh easily took care of Loyola (MD) 66-52. The Hawks have a talented team. They're just extremely inconsistent......

[Twentysix]

As predicted NDSU beats IPFW and takes sole possession of 1st place.

As predicted SDSU beats IUPUI and moves into a tie for 2nd place with IPFW.

If Denver or USD could knock off IPFW next week, that sure would be swell.

[bonarae]

Princeton finally wins 1st Ivy game against doormat Cornell 69-48. Meanwhile, Harvard saw its home winning streak and Ivy winning streak end at the hands of Yale, 74-67. xnonono2x

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[melloware13]

CAA Standings:
1. Delaware (18-7, 10-0 CAA)
2. Towson (16-8, 7-2 CAA) [-2.5]
3. William & Mary (15-8, 7-3 CAA) [-3]
4. Drexel (13-10, 5-5 CAA) [-5]
5. Northeastern (8-17, 5-6 CAA) [-5.5]
6. Charleston (12-13, 4-6 CAA) [-6]
7. Hofstra (8-17, 4-6 CAA) [-6]
8. James Madison (8-16, 3-7 CAA) [-7]
9. UNC-Wilmington (6-19, 0-10 CAA) [-10]

Monday, February 10
Towson @ UNC-Wilmington - 7 PM
Hofstra @ James Madison - 7 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, SNY

Wednesday, February 12
James Madison @ Delaware - 7 PM
Northeastern @ UNC-Wilmington - 7 PM

Thursday, February 13
Drexel @ Charleston - 7 PM

Saturday, February 15
UNC-Wilmington @ James Madison - 12 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSN-NE, CSS, WECT, SNY (tape delay)
Towson @ William & Mary - 4 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSS, SNY
Northeastern @ Charleston - 7 PM - MyTV Charleston, CSS

[darell1976]

UND beat Idaho St 80-75 to improve to 7-5, 10-12 and a 4 team tie for 2nd place in the BSC. Next up they host Montana St on Thursday.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple fell to Houston today 88-74. I'm out of negative adjectives to use to describe this season....

[813Jag]

Southern destroys Grambling 104-54 (at Grambling) to win their 9th SWAC game. Jags head to Jackson tonight to face the Tigers of JSU.

[813Jag]

I consider Usher the team's MVP. He carried the team during the Sadler suspension. Now 2 other players are serving suspensions and he is carrying the team. Devon Sadler is an absolute stud but Usher has been the glue for this team.
I was surprised but happy (xlolx) to see him leave Valley, dude was a monster.

[813Jag]

Southern gets the season sweep of Jackson St, beating the Tigers 68-63 to move to 13-10, 10-1 SWAC

[813Jag]

Grambling ends their 45 game Division I losing streak beating Alcorn 95-80. That was the Tigers first win since the end of the 2011-12 season

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh travels to our nation's capital tonight for a key PL game against American.

[melloware13]

Delaware won their 13th consecutive game, defeating James Madison 81-65. With this win, they are guaranteed at worst the #4 seed for the CAA Tournament. Next up for the Hens (19-7, 11-0 CAA), their first trip to the new SECU Arena to take on Towson on Monday. Next up for the Dukes (9-17, 4-8 CAA), a home meeting with UNC-Wilmington on Saturday.

Other CAA Scores:
Northeastern @ UNC-Wilmington - Postponed to 2/13 (Snow/Ice)

[Twentysix]

NDSU begins its final road series this season. @Defensive juggernaught WIU tommorow night, saturday @UNO (our 14th regionally televised game this season it will be Simulcast on Fox College Sports and Midco Sports Network).

[813Jag]

Southern has a two game home stand against UAPB on Saturday and MVSU on Monday. Only seven games left in SWAC play.

[darell1976]

UND hosts Montana State at 7pm CT tonight on Fox College Sports/MidcoSN. Its a tight race with 8 games left and 4 teams at 7-5 the race to the number 2 seed is on.

WSU 10-2
UNC 7-5
UM 7-5
UND 7-5
NAU 7-5
PSU 6-6
MSU 6-6
-----------
Sac St 6-6
EWU 5-7
ISU 5-7
SUU 0-12

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh lost by to 20, 64-44, to American last night.

Temple's game against Louisville tonight has been rescheduled until tomorrow due to the snowstorm in Philly....

[darell1976]

UND lost to Montana State 78-70. They host Montana tomorrow. UND is tied with the Montana's for 4th place.

[Twentysix]

NDSU toppled WIU for the first time in 4 years @WIU.

[Ivytalk]

Harvard beats Columbia in double OT, 88-84. narrow escape!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple lost to #13 Louisville 82-58 last night. #23 SMU visits Philly tomorrow....

[melloware13]

CAA Standings:
1. Delaware (19-7, 11-0 CAA)
2. Towson (17-9, 8-3 CAA) [-3]
3. William & Mary (15-9, 7-4 CAA) [-4]
4. Northeastern (9-18, 6-7 CAA) [-6]
5. Drexel (13-11, 5-6 CAA) [-6]
6. Charleston (13-14, 5-7 CAA) [-6.5]
7. James Madison (10-17, 5-8 CAA) [-7]
8. Hofstra (8-18, 4-7 CAA) [-7]
9. UNC-Wilmington (8-20, 2-11 CAA) [-10]

Sunday, February 16
Hofstra @ Drexel - 8 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSS, SNY

Monday, February 17
UNC-Wilmington @ William & Mary - 7 PM
Delaware @ Towson - 7 PM - NBC Sports Network

Wednesday, February 19
Delaware @ Hofstra - 7 PM
William & Mary @ Charleston - 7 PM - CSS
Drexel @ James Madison - 7 PM - CSN-MA+, TCN-P, CSS

Thursday, February 20
Towson @ Northeastern - 7 PM - CSN-MA+, CSN-P, CSN-NE, CSS (tape delay), SNY (join in-progress)

Saturday, February 22
Northeastern @ William & Mary - 4 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSN-NE, CSS, SNY (tape delay)
Towson @ Hofstra - 4 PM
Charleston @ UNC-Wilmington - 7 PM - MyTV Charleston

[bonarae]

Harvard squeaked by Cornell 67-44. Meanwhile, Yale rolls as Princeton continues to struggle. Bulldogs win in OT 67-66.

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[superman7515]

With Towson's victory over William & Mary today, a win by the Blue Hens on Monday will clinch the regular season title for Delaware.

[LeadBolt]

Good Luck!


With Towson's victory over William & Mary today, a win by the Blue Hens on Monday will clinch the regular season title for Delaware.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple upset #23 SMU 71-68 today! Woohoo!!

Temple is 7-17 Overall, 2-10 in AAC play....

[citdog]

Temple upset #23 SMU 71-68 today! Woohoo!!

Temple is 7-17 Overall, 2-10 in AAC play....


ALMOST as bad as their football team. did a patsy team beat their basketball team and hold up the win as a signal victory?

[Twentysix]

Braun went off on Omaha yesterday 31 points 15 rebounds 5 assists. 3 home games remain until the summit league tournament.

1. NDSU 9-2 20-6 (First place recieves a bye to the Semi-finals of the SL tournament)
2. SDSU 8-3 16-10
3. Fort Wayne 7-4 19-9
4. Denver 6-4 13-12
5. Omaha 4-6 15-11
6. USD 4-6 10-15
7. Western Illinois 3-7 9-16
8. IUPUI 1-10 6-22 (knocked out)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

ALMOST as bad as their football team. did a patsy team beat their basketball team and hold up the win as a signal victory?

Temple hoops will bounce back with vengeance next year. We have talent, just no depth due to injuries....

Temple has NEVER lost to a PL team during the conferences existence. My guess is a program like Lafayette or Holy Cross beat the Owls in the early 1980's...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8e1Ee95tqM&feature=player_embedded

[813Jag]

Southern has their 16 game SWAC home winning streak snapped against UAPB 60-55 on Saturday. The Jags look to bounce back against MVSU tonight on ESPNU.

[darell1976]

UND beat Montana 74-69 to up their record to 11-13, 8-6 in the BSC. Next up a road trip out west at Sac St on Thursday night then a trip to Northern Arizona Saturday night. UND is tied for third with NAU, just 1 game behind second place UNC, and 3 1/2 back of Weber State. Southern Utah has been officially eliminated from being in the conference tournament with an 0-14 record.

[melloware13]

Delaware's 13-game winning streak was snapped at Towson, losing 78-63. The Hens (19-8, 11-1 CAA) will come off their first loss in 2014 and first CAA loss with a trip to Long Island to face Hofstra on Wednesday. Next up for the Tigers (18-9, 9-3 CAA), a trip to Boston to face Northeastern on Thursday.

Other CAA Scores:
William & Mary 93, UNC-Wilmington 70

[813Jag]

Southern beat MVSU 83-74 to earn a series split.

[melloware13]

Delaware rebounded from Monday's loss with a 81-77 win at Hofstra. Next up for the Hens (20-8, 12-1 CAA), a home meeting with rival Drexel on Sunday for Senior Day. Next up for the Tribe (8-20, 4-9 CAA), a home meeting with Towson on Saturday.

Other CAA Scores:
Charelston 87, William & Mary 54
James Madison 63, Drexel 61 - OT

[813Jag]

#1 Syracuse goes down to Boston College 62-59 in OT. Wichita State is the only undefeated team left.

[Laker]

#1 Syracuse goes down to Boston College 62-59 in OT. Wichita State is the only undefeated team left.

http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Wichita-State-Shockers-Shockd-T-Shirt-Black-1.jpeg

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

#1 Syracuse goes down to Boston College 62-59 in OT. Wichita State is the only undefeated team left.

As a 'Cuse fan, the Orange need to get their offense going again. They can't expect to return to the Final 4 by scoring 60 points a game.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple hosts #21 UConn tonight. The Huskies have been playing really good ball the last month or so....

[bonarae]

Harvard is at Penn tonight, and tomorrow we'll finally hopefully and stunningly end our Jadwin jinx that has stood for almost 25 years... xprayx

The P's are Ivy bottom-feeders right now... only Harvard and Yale are the ones fighting for the Dance ticket now. Some bracketologies (13 according to the Bracket Matrix) have Yale listed because of its advantage over us in head-to-head play. We won't play again until March 7 though. xsmhx

[813Jag]

Southern begins a 3 game road trip on Saturday, going to Huntsville (AAMU), Montgomery (Alabama St), and the middle of nowhere (Alcorn)

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

#21 UConn took care of Temple 68-56 last night. Things don't get any easier for the Owls with a trip to #23 Memphis on Saturday.

[darell1976]

UND lost to Sac State 71-65 to fall to 8-7, 11-14. Next up @ NAU Saturday.

[bonarae]

Harvard smothers Penn 83-63, while Princeton planked Dartmouth 67-57. Yale, meanwhile, dumped Cornell 82-65.

[melloware13]

CAA Standings:
1. Delaware (20-8, 12-1 CAA), can be #1-2
2. Towson (20-9, 11-3 CAA) [-1.5], can be #1-2
3. William & Mary (17-10, 9-5 CAA) [-3.5]
4. Drexel (14-12, 6-7 CAA) [-6], can be #4-7
5. Charleston (14-15, 6-8 CAA) [-6.5], can be #4-7
6. James Madison (11-17, 6-8 CAA) [-6.5], can be #4-7
7. Northeastern (9-20, 6-9 CAA) [-7], can be #4-7
8. Hofstra (8-21, 4-10 CAA) [-8.5], can be #7-8
9. UNC Wilmington (9-21, 3-12 CAA) [-10]

Sunday, February 23
Drexel @ Delaware - 3 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, SNY

Wednesday, February 26
Charleston @ Drexel - 7 PM
Towson @ James Madison - 7 PM
Delaware @ UNC Wilmington - 7 PM
Hofstra @ William & Mary - 7 PM

Saturday, March 1
Drexel @ Northeastern - 1 PM
Delaware @ Charleston - 2 PM - CSN-MA+, TCN-P, CSN-NE, CSS, SNY (tape delay)
William & Mary @ Towson - 4 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSN-NE, SNY
James Madison @ Hofstra - 7 PM

[bonarae]

Only Coach Amaker and 2 asst coaches were alive when Harvard last beat Princeton at Jadwin (Feb 3 1989). Now, we beat them 59-47. Yale won't play until tomorrow though.


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[bonarae]

Yes! Harvard is now alone in the driver's seat! Yale falls to Columbia 62-46! xhurrayx

For the schedule next weekend, Harvard is back home facing the C's.

[melloware13]

Delaware dropped their final home game of the season, falling to Drexel 69-65. Next up for the Hens (20-9, 12-2 CAA), a trip to the beach to take on CAA-bottomfeeder UNC Wilmington on Wednesday. Next up for the Dragons (15-12, 7-7 CAA), a home match-up with Charleston on Wednesday.

[Twentysix]

NDSU beats a good jackrabbit team. RPI #42. 2 home games left to end the season.

[813Jag]

Southern beats AAMU 70-62 to sweep the season series. The Jags are 16-11 12-2 in the SWAC. They can clinch a share of the regular season title if they can beat Alabama State tonight.

[darell1976]

UND (12-14, 9-7) beat NAU 75-63 to remain in a 3 way tie for third place. Next up home games against Portland State on Thursday night and Eastern Washington on Saturday afternoon.

[813Jag]

Southern beats Alabama State 87-64 to clinch a share of the SWAC title. With an win or an Alabama State loss on Saturday the Jags will win their first outright SWAC title since 2006.

[Twentysix]

NDSU has two tough games coming up, USD tonight and DU saturday, DU gave NDSU 1 of its 2 conference losses.

[813Jag]

NDSU has two tough games coming up, USD tonight and DU saturday, DU gave NDSU 1 of its 2 conference losses.
we lost to Denver by one in OT earlier this season.

[Twentysix]

by tonight, I mean the USD game is thursday. I apparently have no idea what day it is lol.

[darell1976]

by tonight, I mean the USD game is thursday. I apparently have no idea what day it is lol.

This time of the season I would love to have a game every night. This is where teams come to play with a lot on the line before tournament time. Twentysix when ORU joins next season (I think Omaha is still not eligible) will the tournament stay at 7 teams or go 8?

[melloware13]

Delaware clinched a share of the CAA Regular Season title with a 70-57 win at UNC Wilmington. Next up for the Hens (21-9, 13-2 CAA), the last regular season game at Charleston on Saturday. Next up for the Seahawks (9-22, 3-13 CAA), the First Round game of the CAA Tournament against Hofstra on Friday, March 7th.

Other CAA Scores:
William & Mary 79, Hofstra 74
Drexel 58, Charleston 45
Towson 69, James Madison 66

[Twentysix]

This time of the season I would love to have a game every night. This is where teams come to play with a lot on the line before tournament time. Twentysix when ORU joins next season (I think Omaha is still not eligible) will the tournament stay at 7 teams or go 8?

8.

The tournament is always 8, it is only 7 this year because Omaha isn't eligible.

ORU will be instantly eligible.

[darell1976]

UND has now moved into a second place tie in the BSC with Northern Colorado with a 83-73 win against PSU and a 80-66 UNC loss to EWU. UND (10-7, 13-14) will host EWU tomorrow afternoon. Just 3 games left and UND has 2 out of 3 at home with the only road game is to SUU who has lost 25 in a row.

[RabidRabbit]

NDSU absolutely demolished 'Yotes in Fargo last night, while Jacks dismantled DU Pioneers in Brookings. IPFW got by WIU. So #1 NDSU, #5 USD, #6 WIU & #7 IUPUI seeds are set for next week's Summit tourney. #2-4 will be dependent on the results of the last games of Summit league regular season play. IPFW has the inside track to #2, #2 or 3 SDSU, and #2-4 DU.

[bonarae]

Harvard thumps Cornell 72-47. Columbia for the home finale tomorrow.

[bonarae]

Meanwhile, Yale lost to Princeton 57-46. Harvard can punch the first Dance ticket ahead of the OVC champion, as early as March 7 (OVC plays its conf tournament March 5-8).

[citdog]

Meanwhile, Yale lost to Princeton 57-46. Harvard can punch the first Dance ticket ahead of the OVC champion, as early as March 7 (OVC plays its conf tournament March 5-8).

Are your Presidents SURE they don't want to start playing basketball 3 weeks AFTER everyone else does?

xsmiley_wix

[bonarae]

Are your Presidents SURE they don't want to start playing basketball 3 weeks AFTER everyone else does?

xsmiley_wix

Hmm, all eight schools factor the finals break (December or January) in their scheduling of games; that's why we always start on time in basketball (applies to both genders BTW).

[bonarae]

I'll elaborate further on the scenarios on whether we punch the first ticket to the Dance 2014:

For March 1:
1. If we win against Columbia at home and Yale loses at Penn, we punch it right away.
2. If both (Harvard and Yale) win, the punching will be decided on March 7 or 8, and we get at least a share of the conference title right away. (After Harvard, Yale has Dartmouth. After Yale, we have Brown.)

If we win it all (three games left), then we will have at least a share of four straight Ivy championships. (First since Penn from 1993-1996)

[Ivytalk]

Harvard shouldn't take anything for granted. Columbia has been a tough opponent for them over the past three seasons.

[melloware13]

Delaware clinched the top seed in the CAA Tournament witha 89-86 win at Charleston. Next up for the Hens (22-9, 14-2 CAA), their CAA Quarterfinal meeting with the winner of UNC Wilmington v. Hofstra on Saturday in Baltimore. Next up for the Cougars (14-17, 6-10 CAA), their CAA Quarterfinal game against William & Mary.

Other CAA Scores:
Northeastern 54, Drexel 52
Towson 70, William & Mary 68
Hofstra 82, James Madison 71

[clenz]

UNI recovers from a rough 1/3 of the conference season to finish 3rd in the MVC by winning 5 of the last 6 and winning today @ #2 seed Indiana State


Arch Madness games are now set for next weekend....


Thursday:
7 Bradley vs 10 Loyola
8/9 Evansville vs Drake - locked into the spots but could flip flop depending how the final game or two end.

Friday:
1 Wichita State vs 8/9 winner
4/5 Missouri St vs Illinois State - locked into the spots but could flip flop depending how the final game or two end.
2 Indiana State vs 7/10 winner
3 Northern Iowa vs 6 SIU

[bonarae]

Harvard has swept Columbia and has earned at least a share of the Ivy title, 80-47.

Meanwhile, Yale withstood a Penn second-half rally and held on to win at The Palestra, 70-63.

It's win or die for the Ivy title for Harvard at Yale on March 7. xprayx

[melloware13]

Final CAA Standings:
1. Delaware (22-9, 14-2 CAA)
2. Towson (22-9, 13-3 CAA)
3. William & Mary (18-11, 10-6 CAA)
4. Drexel (16-13, 8-8 CAA)
5. Northeastern (10-20, 7-9 CAA)
6. Charleston (14-17, 6-10 CAA)
7. James Madison (11-19, 6-10 CAA)
8. Hofstra (9-22, 5-11 CAA)
9. UNC Wilmington (9-22, 3-13 CAA)

CAA Tournament - Baltimore Arena - Baltimore, MD
Friday, March 7 (First Round)
8. Hofstra v. 9. UNC Wilmington - 7 PM - CAA.TV

Saturday, March 8 (Quarterfinals)
1. Delaware v. 8/9 - 12 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSN-NE, CSS, SNY
4. Drexel v. 5. Northeastern - 2:30 PM - CSN-MA, CSN-P, CSN-NE, CSS, SNY
2. Towson v. 7. James Madison - 6 PM - CSN-MA+, CSN-NE, CSS, SNY (tape delay)
3. William & Mary v. 6. Charleston - 8:30 PM - CSN-NE, CSS, SNY (tape delay)

Sunday, March 9 (Semifinals)
1/8/9 v. 4/5 - 2:30 PM EDT - NBC Sports Network
2/7 v. 3/6 - 5 PM EDT - NBC Sports Network

Monday, March 10 (Final)
CAA Championship Game - 7 PM EDT - NBC Sports Network

[Ivytalk]

Harvard has swept Columbia and has earned at least a share of the Ivy title, 80-47.

Meanwhile, Yale withstood a Penn second-half rally and held on to win at The Palestra, 70-63.

It's win or die for the Ivy title for Harvard at Yale on March 7. xprayx

Win or die? Not quite. Harvard has 2-game lead with 2 to play. Even if the Crimson lose to Yale again, they win the title by beating Brown the next day.

[bulldog10jw]

Harvard has swept Columbia and has earned at least a share of the Ivy title, 80-47.

Meanwhile, Yale withstood a Penn second-half rally and held on to win at The Palestra, 70-63.

It's win or die for the Ivy title for Harvard at Yale on March 7. xprayx

It's win or die for Yale, not Harvard. Even if Yale won on Friday, Harvard could still win the league by beating Brown on Saturday.

[bulldog10jw]

Win or die? Not quite. Harvard has 2-game lead with 2 to play. Even if the Crimson lose to Yale again, they win the title by beating Brown the next day.

Sorry, IT. I responded to bonarae before I saw your post.

[citdog]

Perhaps The Citadel ISN'T the worst team in Division I. After losing 17 in a row the Cadets have won back to back games over Samford and Pig's Ass, Ga. WHIPPING the eaglets 80-63 on Saturday.

[Twentysix]

Ndsu beats DU, finishes regular season 23-6. #1 seed and a bye in the Summit tournament, and guranteed post season play. Finishes the regular season as the #1 FG shooting team in the country. Winning the Summit tournament should push us into the upper 30s in RPI. Hoping for a 12 seed.

[Twentysix]

Teams best be scared in the post season when playing NDSU.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1912469_10152294418564532_1542058222_n.jpg

Our coach is breaking out the sledgehammer.

[darell1976]

Teams best be scared in the post season when playing NDSU.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1912469_10152294418564532_1542058222_n.jpg

Our coach is breaking out the sledgehammer.

I like Saul, he helped coach my son's (along with his son) baseball team last summer. Great guy.

[Laker]

UND player hits buzzer beater, then does cartwheel.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/01/troy-huffs-buzzer-beater-caps-senior-day-at-north-dakota-video/

[Twentysix]

UND player hits buzzer beater, then does cartwheel.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/01/troy-huffs-buzzer-beater-caps-senior-day-at-north-dakota-video/

screw und, but that was pretty cool.

[darell1976]

screw und, but that was pretty cool.

I would thought you and other Bison fans would cheer for UND, since a win by UND ups your RPI, and makes that blowout less damaging.

[clenz]

I would thought you and other Bison fans would cheer for UND, since a win by UND ups your RPI, and makes that blowout less damaging.

At this point that loss is what it is....completely embarrassing no matter how you look at it.


Having said that...The highest seed NDSU will get is a 12...and that may be pushing it. I'd bet they get a 13. The lowest an at-large can get is a 12, thus moving a champion of a low rated conference above a 13 is nearly impossible. The Summit is 16th in RPI right now...the best the Summit can finish, in absolutely perfect situation with every single team needing to win and lose happening for the next week or two in conference tournaments, is 15th...and I'm not sure that they could make that jump even if it played out right.

Their RPI doesn't mean **** either, other than bragging rights in conference. They aren't getting in as an at-large...period. Not from the 16th rated conference with an SOS pushing 135 by the time the season is over, and just 4 (maybe 5 if a team or two holds on through tourney time) top 150 wins. Right now they are fighting to be the top 13 seed, which is likely going to put them in the same bracket as Duke or Arizona....

They'll likely end up in the west...meaning they'll see someone like San Diego State, Iowa State, Texas, St. Louis, Iowa, or Oklahoma.

At this point their RPI will keep them as a 13 seed, likely not lower, but it's if they end up with the top 4 seed or not.

[Bisonoline]

I would thought you and other Bison fans would cheer for UND, since a win by UND ups your RPI, and makes that blowout less damaging.

You are delusional. But entertaining.

[darell1976]

As if the BSC season wasn't wacky enought. UND who was close to following out of the magic 7 seed line is now all alone in second place with a 69-67 buzzer beater win over Eastern Washington. 11-7 in the BSC and 14-14 overall puts UND a half game ahead of Montana for second and 2 games behind a Weber State team who lost to NAU in OT. Next up a home game against UNC on Tuesday, then the season finally against SUU in Cedar City who is 0-26 against DI competition.

WSU 13-5
UND 11-7
UM 10-7

The race for the BSC Title, the conference tournament however will go through Ogden.

[clenz]

Dear god...I knew the Big Sky was bad...but I hadn't looked at it all year....It's really bad.

No top 150 RPI teams, ranked 26th of 32 in RPI, as many teams over 295 as under 200...

Dear god...

The Valley's worst team - which was just added from the Horizon, starting 3 freshman and 2 sophomores with no seniors on the roster and getting thrown into the Valley has a better RPI than multiple Big Sky teams....The last place long standing MVC team would be #4 in RPI...****...our 9th place team would be top 5 in RPI....

Holy ****...I really believe the bototm 4 in the Valley would be 4 of the top 5 in the Big Sky - the only one that wouldn't would be Loyola - who would likely be 6th...

[darell1976]

Dear god...I knew the Big Sky was bad...but I hadn't looked at it all year....It's really bad.

No top 150 RPI teams, ranked 26th of 32 in RPI, as many teams over 295 as under 200...

Dear god...

The Valley's worst team - which was just added from the Horizon, starting 3 freshman and 2 sophomores with no seniors on the roster and getting thrown into the Valley has a better RPI than multiple Big Sky teams....The last place long standing MVC team would be #4 in RPI...****...our 9th place team would be top 5 in RPI....

Holy ****...I really believe the bototm 4 in the Valley would be 4 of the top 5 in the Big Sky - the only one that wouldn't would be Loyola - who would likely be 6th...

It doesn't help that our last place team (SUU) is 1-26 and the one 1 is a non-DI win. Our conference is no MVC we don't have a Witchita State we have Weber State probably the only basketball school in the conference. UND is a hockey school which is trying to reach the dance for the first time since becoming eligible last year. We are a one bid conference and every fan in the BSC knows it. Do we ever have a shot at 2 bids, sure if we go undefeated and knock off a bunch of top 5 teams. So there is no point to compare us to the MVC or an upper mid-major conference.

[clenz]

It doesn't help that our last place team (SUU) is 1-26 and the one 1 is a non-DI win. Our conference is no MVC we don't have a Witchita State we have Weber State probably the only basketball school in the conference. UND is a hockey school which is trying to reach the dance for the first time since becoming eligible last year. We are a one bid conference and every fan in the BSC knows it. Do we ever have a shot at 2 bids, sure if we go undefeated and knock off a bunch of top 5 teams. So there is no point to compare us to the MVC or an upper mid-major conference.

Even without WSU the MVC has 4 S16s since 2006

I know it's not the MVC...but holy dear god it's one thing to know it's a 2 bid conference that isn't real good...It's another to actually look at it and think the SWAC (a complete cluster **** of a conference in just about every way, in every sport, imaginable), MEAC, Southern, America East, Big South, and Southland...all of which are D1INO really are every bit as good and it's not as good as the NEC, ASUN, Big WEST, and Patriot.

I consider myself a big CBB fan...and I forgot the ASUN existed and had to look up who is in it....another conference of D1INO

[darell1976]

Even without WSU the MVC has 4 S16s since 2006

I know it's not the MVC...but holy dear god it's one thing to know it's a 2 bid conference that isn't real good...It's another to actually look at it and think the SWAC (a complete cluster **** of a conference in just about every way, in every sport, imaginable), MEAC, Southern, America East, Big South, and Southland...all of which are D1INO really are every bit as good and it's not as good as the NEC, ASUN, Big WEST, and Patriot.

I consider myself a big CBB fan...and I forgot the ASUN existed and had to look up who is in it....another conference of D1INO

Thats the beauty of MM a one bid conference team could actually win the whole thing, where in FBS football only a select few can actually have a shot of winning it. From the BSC to the MAC to the Ivy League to the Summit (for my Bison buddies) any team eligible (and in an autobid conference) has a chance at the beginning of the year to win a NC in DI Basketball where FBS football is different if you are in the MAC, SB, you have no shot at a NC. Its reserved for the Power 5 conferences. Should DI basketball be hacked up like football and have a subdivision too? This is what makes MM the best time of the basketball year, because everyone has a shot!! Which team will become the next Butler? The next Princeton? Who will be Cinderella of 2014?

[clenz]

When was the last time a team from the Big Sky made the S16....****...won a NCAA game?

Same question for the Summit, MEAC, Southern, Southland, OVC, NEC, ASUN (other than FGCU last season), MAC, Sun Belt, SWAC, Big West, Am East, etc...

You may have a seat at the table...but don't act like those conference "belong" or are treated as equals.

[citdog]

When was the last time a team from the Big Sky made the S16....****...won a NCAA game?

Same question for the Summit, MEAC, Southern, Southland, OVC, NEC, ASUN (other than FGCU last season), MAC, Sun Belt, SWAC, Big West, Am East, etc...

You may have a seat at the table...but don't act like those conference "belong" or are treated as equals.


Davidson much? Chatty has had some good runs. C of C did pretty well a couple of times under Kresse. ETSU had it's time with Mr. Jennings etc etc

[darell1976]

When was the last time a team from the Big Sky made the S16....****...won a NCAA game?

Same question for the Summit, MEAC, Southern, Southland, OVC, NEC, ASUN (other than FGCU last season), MAC, Sun Belt, SWAC, Big West, Am East, etc...

You may have a seat at the table...but don't act like those conference "belong" or are treated as equals.

2012:

Patriot- #15 Lehigh over #2 Duke
Ohio Valley- #6 Murry St over #11 Colorado St
MEAC- #15 Norfolk St over #2 Missouri
MAC- #13 Ohio over #4 Michigan

Good enough?

[clenz]

Davidson much? Chatty has had some good runs. C of C did pretty well a couple of times under Kresse. ETSU had it's time with Mr. Jennings etc etc

Okay...

Davidson with Steph Curry...where are they now? Where were they before him?

CoC had an NIT birth in 2003, beat UNC in 2010...and had 4 births prior to 1997 in the NCAAs...

ETSU made the S16 in 1968...FWIW Drake made the final four about the same time...made the round of 32 in 1992...and then bowed out in the first round every other time.

UTC made the S16 in 1997...only wins in 10 trips to NCAAs.


Again....not really answering my question - well it did but further proved my point. I don't care about getting there - someone from your conference has too...even the SWAC this year got an exemption from the NCAA to keep their bid since 4 teams aren't eligible for post season...

What does your conference do when they get there?

[FargoBison]

At this point that loss is what it is....completely embarrassing no matter how you look at it.


Having said that...The highest seed NDSU will get is a 12...and that may be pushing it. I'd bet they get a 13. The lowest an at-large can get is a 12, thus moving a champion of a low rated conference above a 13 is nearly impossible. The Summit is 16th in RPI right now...the best the Summit can finish, in absolutely perfect situation with every single team needing to win and lose happening for the next week or two in conference tournaments, is 15th...and I'm not sure that they could make that jump even if it played out right.

Their RPI doesn't mean **** either, other than bragging rights in conference. They aren't getting in as an at-large...period. Not from the 16th rated conference with an SOS pushing 135 by the time the season is over, and just 4 (maybe 5 if a team or two holds on through tourney time) top 150 wins. Right now they are fighting to be the top 13 seed, which is likely going to put them in the same bracket as Duke or Arizona....

They'll likely end up in the west...meaning they'll see someone like San Diego State, Iowa State, Texas, St. Louis, Iowa, or Oklahoma.

At this point their RPI will keep them as a 13 seed, likely not lower, but it's if they end up with the top 4 seed or not.

NDSU has 9 top 150 wins....WMU, Delaware, Towson, Notre Dame, SDSUx2, IPFW, Denver, Utah Valley.

Maybe you were talking about top 100 wins?

NDSU is fighting for a 12 right now...in a tight race with Harvard, Toledo and UWGB.

[clenz]

NDSU has 9 top 150 wins....WMU, Delaware, Towson, Notre Dame, SDSUx2, IPFW, Denver, Utah Valley.

Maybe you were talking about top 100 wins?

NDSU is fighting for a 12 right now.

You aren't going to get it unless something crazy happens....The lowest an AL can get is a 12.

[FargoBison]

You aren't going to get it unless something crazy happens....The lowest an AL can get is a 12.

I don't think much craziness needs to happen for NDSU to get a 12.

Luardi's S-curve....50=12....


45-Ore, 46-Tenn, 47-Minn, 48-HARV, 49-GB, 50-NDST; 51-TOL, 52-SFA, 53-IONA, 54-BELM; 55-MTSU, 56-DELA, 57-GAST, 58-VERM; 59-BU, 60-UCI.

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/440147544106995713

[bonarae]

When was the last time a team from the Big Sky made the S16....****...won a NCAA game?

Same question for the Summit, MEAC, Southern, Southland, OVC, NEC, ASUN (other than FGCU last season), MAC, Sun Belt, SWAC, Big West, Am East, etc...

You may have a seat at the table...but don't act like those conference "belong" or are treated as equals.

Depends on whom you ask:

Harvard - made round of 32 in 2013 (#14)
Penn - made Final Four in 1979 (not sure of seed #)
Princeton - made round of 32 in 1998 (#5, finished 14-0 in Ivy play, only loss that year was to the Tarholes)
Cornell - made Sweet Sixteen in 2010 (#13, with top rated offense nationally that year)
Brown - with Craig Robinson (now languishing at Oregon State), made it to the Dance in 2008 (not sure of seed #)

Can't speak for the other three, for they haven't won it all in at least 50 years. xsmhx

[Twentysix]

When was the last time a team from the Big Sky made the S16....****...won a NCAA game?

Same question for the Summit, MEAC, Southern, Southland, OVC, NEC, ASUN (other than FGCU last season), MAC, Sun Belt, SWAC, Big West, Am East, etc...

You may have a seat at the table...but don't act like those conference "belong" or are treated as equals.

In 2005 Oakland won a game, before that 1998, 1994, 1990, 1987, 1986.

Cleveland State and Valpo are the two sweet 16 teams so it is pretty far removed from anything current. I think ORU was an elite 8 or final four team before they joined the summit, but that was long long ago.

So yeah, not very often. Then again, the Summit/Midcon has never had a team rated as high as NDSU, so maybe we will win a few ;).

[813Jag]

Southern knocks off Alcorn 67-54 to sweep the season series and win the SWAC regular season title (14-2 SWAC,18-11 overall). The Jags have their final two games of the season at home: Thursday against PVU and Texas Southern on Saturday.

And just to answer the question earlier, SWAC last NCAA win was 21 years ago (Southern beat Georgia Tech). Other than that there's only been a couple of close calls. Last year Southern lost by 6 to Gonzaga and in 1995 Texas Southern lost by one to Arkansas. Our performances have left a lot to be desired.

[813Jag]

Now for this dumpster fire of a league race in the SWAC. As of right now if the seedings hold, all Texas Southern has to do to get the autobid is: A. make it to the conference championship (win or lose there) or B. hope the #3 seed gets upset in the first round. What a mess........
#1 Southern (ineligible for NCAA tourney)
#2 Texas Southern (head to head tie-breaker over #3)
#3 Alabama State
#4 UAPB (ineligible for NCAA tourney)
#5 AAMU
#6 Alcorn
#7 Jackson State
#8 PVU
#9 MVSU (ineligible for NCAA tourney)
#10 Grambling (ineligible for NCAA tourney)

[dbackjon]

At this point that loss is what it is....completely embarrassing no matter how you look at it.


Having said that...The highest seed NDSU will get is a 12...and that may be pushing it. I'd bet they get a 13. The lowest an at-large can get is a 12,

You are incorrect, Clenz. Last year, Boise and LaSalle were at-larges, and were 13-seeds in the play-in game.

[dbackjon]

When was the last time a team from the Big Sky made the S16....****...won a NCAA game?

Same question for the Summit, MEAC, Southern, Southland, OVC, NEC, ASUN (other than FGCU last season), MAC, Sun Belt, SWAC, Big West, Am East, etc...

You may have a seat at the table...but don't act like those conference "belong" or are treated as equals.


2006 - 12-seed Montana won.

[clenz]

You are incorrect, Clenz. Last year, Boise and LaSalle were at-larges, and were 13-seeds in the play-in game.
That must have changed with the new play in format.

Prior to that you couldn't be an AL lower than a 12.

[dbackjon]

That must have changed with the new play in format.

Prior to that you couldn't be an AL lower than a 12.

Incorrect again - that rule has never been in place. In practice there are generally enough teams from the single bid conferences that warrant the 13-16 seed.

In 2006, Bradley was an at-large from some conference called the MVC - ever heard of them?

Yes - it is the four lowest at-larges are the play-in - regardless of where they fall.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple ended a 4 game losing streak with a 86-78 OT win over UCF. We finish up the regular season on Sunday against South Florida in Tampa. The Owls are 8-21 on the season, 3-14 in AAC play.

[darell1976]

North Dakota with their 4 game winning streak and win over Northern Colorado has secured either a 2 or 3 seed in the BSC with a 94-90 win. They have one game left at Southern Utah (1-26 overall and 0-18 BSC). UND is now 2 for 2 in being in the BSC tournament in their second year in the conference. UND's record in the BSC tournament is 1-1 (win over SUU, loss to WSU last year). UND is 15-14 overall and 12-7 in the BSC.

[TheRevSFA]

SFA is sitting at 27-2 and just outside of the AP Top 25

Great piece in USAToday about them

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/southland/2014/03/04/college-basketball-stephen-f-austin-streak/6020971/

[BisonBohl]

Clenz is a hot mess in this thread, although his take on the big sky was spot on.

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[darell1976]

Clenz is a hot mess in this thread, although his take on the big sky was spot on.

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That the Big Sky doesn't measure up to the MVC...no ****!! But in fairness...neither does your Summit League.

[clenz]

That the Big Sky doesn't measure up to the MVC...no ****!! But in fairness...neither does your Summit League.
The Summit is a **** of a lot closer...

Rank out of 32 Conference Avg RPI Avg SOS SOS Rank Teams

RPI Ranking...out of 32
11. MVC
17. Summit
26. Big Sky

Based on average RPI, SOS, etc... points the Summit is closer to the MVC than the Big Sky to the Summit...though quite a ways behind

[darell1976]

The Summit is a **** of a lot closer...

Rank out of 32 Conference Avg RPI Avg SOS SOS Rank Teams

RPI Ranking...out of 32
11. MVC
17. Summit
26. Big Sky

Based on average RPI, SOS, etc... points the Summit is closer to the MVC than the Big Sky to the Summit...though quite a ways behind

RPI means nothing in a 1 bid league (SL, BSC).

[BisonBohl]

RPI means nothing in a 1 bid league (SL, BSC).

Darrell how many 16 seeds have beaten 1 seeds? How do you think 1 bid leagues become multiple bid leagues?



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[darell1976]

Darrell how many 16 seeds have beaten 1 seeds? How do you think 1 bid leagues become multiple bid leagues?



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Dont worry the SL will NEVER have multiple bids.

[BisonBohl]

Dont worry the SL will NEVER have multiple bids.

Glad you were able to answer the questions, enjoy the big sky tournament, should be some elite bball played lol....

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[darell1976]

Glad you were able to answer the questions, enjoy the big sky tournament, should be some elite bball played lol....

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not too many non-major conferences produce a multi bid except upper mid-majors, SL is not in either, oh and your first question the answer is zero. And I will enjoy the conference tournament as I am sure your tournament will produce quality basketball with IUPUI, Denver and South Dakota.

[clenz]

Dont worry the SL will NEVER have multiple bids.
Also a lot of truth in this.

This is probably the closest the SL will get to a multibid league....and if NDSU doesn't win the tournament you won't even see their name mentioned

[BisonBohl]

not too many non-major conferences produce a multi bid except upper mid-majors, SL is not in either, oh and your first question the answer is zero. And I will enjoy the conference tournament as I am sure your tournament will produce quality basketball with IUPUI, Denver and South Dakota.

Well you answered question number one, good job. So how does a team improve and earn a better seed then 16??? Maybe that RPI does sort of matter..huh

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[clenz]

Well you answered question number one, good job. So how does a team improve and earn a better seed then 16??? Maybe that RPI does sort of matter..huh

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Some...but when it comes to the low 14 seeds, 15s and 16s it's really just a matter of geography as much as anything.

The SWAC, MEAC, Am. East, and Big South will almost always get "first dibs" at the 16 though

[BisonBohl]

Also a lot of truth in this.

This is probably the closest the SL will get to a multibid league....and if NDSU doesn't win the tournament you won't even see their name mentioned

Couple years ago Oral Roberts was one of the last teams left out, according yo that year's selection chairman. The big thing for the SL is too win a game in the big dance, your correct Ndsu is not getting at large.

The thing is, the SL is improving, add oral Roberts next season and that will help, but until we have success in the tournament not much will change.

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[dbackjon]

Couple years ago Oral Roberts was one of the last teams left out, according yo that year's selection chairman. The big thing for the SL is too win a game in the big dance, your correct Ndsu is not getting at large.

The thing is, the SL is improving, add oral Roberts next season and that will help, but until we have success in the tournament not much will change.

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No current Summit League member has ever won a NCAA tourney game. ORU last won a game in 1974

Since that time, the following Big Sky teams have wins:

Idaho (next year) - 1982 (Sweet 16)
Montana - 1975 (won first game), 2006 (#12 seed beat #5 seed)
Idaho State - 1977 (Elite 8)
Weber State - 1979, 1996, 1999


So even some tourney success means little unless it is broad based over the league.

Yes, the BSC sucks this year, but it will not be that way always.

[TheRevSFA]

have fun with Oral Bob. They came to the SLC because they thought it was a cakewalk. How did that work out for them?

[clenz]

have fun with Oral Bob. They came to the SLC because they thought it was a cakewalk. How did that work out for them?
Maybe they should have played an SOS of 315 instead of 209....

[FargoBison]

not too many non-major conferences produce a multi bid except upper mid-majors, SL is not in either, oh and your first question the answer is zero. And I will enjoy the conference tournament as I am sure your tournament will produce quality basketball with IUPUI, Denver and South Dakota.

Denver did slaughter Belmont and they beat two MWC schools. Not sure I would be ripping them if I were you...

[TheRevSFA]

Maybe they should have played an SOS of 315 instead of 209....

perhaps they should..but it didn't help them not winning the conference..ever.

[dbackjon]

Maybe they should have played an SOS of 315 instead of 209....

Playing tougher teams means little if you can't beat any of them.

And in the SLC, ORU has lost 6 games, while SFA has lost ZERO - so the tougher schedule didn't do anything for ORU, except generate cash.

[darell1976]

Denver did slaughter Belmont and they beat two MWC schools. Not sure I would be ripping them if I were you...

Why not, he ripped our conference tournament UNC did beat a Big 12 team if thats any consolation, and Weber State beat a MWC team so overall our quality of teams may equal your quality of teams. But in the end one BSC team will be dancing and one SL team will be dancing. It could be Weber, it could be UND, it could be NDSU or it could be South Dakota. Let's just say this is going to be a fun tournament as long as "our" teams are in it.

[darell1976]

have fun with Oral Bob. They came to the SLC because they thought it was a cakewalk. How did that work out for them?

I thought the geography would make it easier for Bob. No trips to the Dakotas or Indiana...guess not.

[FargoBison]

Why not, he ripped our conference tournament UNC did beat a Big 12 team if thats any consolation, and Weber State beat a MWC team so overall our quality of teams may equal your quality of teams. But in the end one BSC team will be dancing and one SL team will be dancing. It could be Weber, it could be UND, it could be NDSU or it could be South Dakota. Let's just say this is going to be a fun tournament as long as "our" teams are in it.

Umm.....Darell beating Wyoming and Colorado State is a bit different than beating completely hopeless San Jose State.

Not sure why it is so hard to say the Big Sky sucks this year. If the Summit was that bad, I would say it.

Jon was able to say it, the conference won't always be this way but this year wasn't a good one.

[darell1976]

Umm.....Darell beating Wyoming and Colorado State is a bit different than beating completely hopeless San Jose State.

Not sure why it is so hard to say the Big Sky sucks this year. If the Summit was that bad, I would say it.

Jon was able to say it, the conference won't always be this way but this year wasn't a good one.

The BSC did go 2-1 against the Summit League so what does that make your conference? You have no problem saying the BSC sucks but you think the SL is whole lot better?



North Dakota State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2449/north-dakota-state-bison)

12-2

23-6



IPFW (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2870/ipfw-mastodons)

10-4

22-9



South Dakota State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2571/south-dakota-state-jackrabbits)

10-4

18-11



Denver (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2172/denver-pioneers)

8-6

15-14



South Dakota (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/233/south-dakota-coyotes)

6-8

12-17



Nebraska-Omaha (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2437/nebraska-omaha-mavericks)

5-9

16-14



Western Illinois (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2710/western-illinois-leathernecks)

4-10

10-19



IUPUI (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/85/iupui-jaguars)

1-13

6-25




BSC has 5 teams over .500, SL has 5 teams over .500 SL record is 122-115 .515 BSC is 129-162 .443, yes we are bad, but you guys aren't close to being multiple bid good.

[FargoBison]

The BSC did go 2-1 against the Summit League so what does that make your conference? You have no problem saying the BSC sucks but you think the SL is whole lot better?



North Dakota State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2449/north-dakota-state-bison)
12-2
23-6


IPFW (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2870/ipfw-mastodons)
10-4
22-9


South Dakota State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2571/south-dakota-state-jackrabbits)
10-4
18-11


Denver (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2172/denver-pioneers)
8-6
15-14


South Dakota (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/233/south-dakota-coyotes)
6-8
12-17


Nebraska-Omaha (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2437/nebraska-omaha-mavericks)
5-9
16-14


Western Illinois (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2710/western-illinois-leathernecks)
4-10
10-19


IUPUI (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/85/iupui-jaguars)
1-13
6-25



BSC has 5 teams over .500, SL has 5 teams over .500 SL record is 122-115 .515 BSC is 129-162 .443, yes we are bad, but you guys aren't close to being multiple bid good.

Yes the Summit was significantly better this year, not good enough to get a second bid but it is a much stronger league. Do I need to start rattling off RPI and SOS numbers? I don't think you want me to go there.

[darell1976]

No current Summit League member has ever won a NCAA tourney game. ORU last won a game in 1974

Since that time, the following Big Sky teams have wins:

Idaho (next year) - 1982 (Sweet 16)
Montana - 1975 (won first game), 2006 (#12 seed beat #5 seed)
Idaho State - 1977 (Elite 8)
Weber State - 1979, 1996, 1999


So even some tourney success means little unless it is broad based over the league.

Yes, the BSC sucks this year, but it will not be that way always.

SUU had a major colapse, from conference tourny (UND knocked them out) last year to winless in conference play.

[darell1976]

Yes the Summit was significantly better this year, not good enough to get a second bid but it is a much stronger league. Do I need to start rattling off RPI and SOS numbers? I don't think you want me to go there.

I prefer H2H....2-1 Big Sky. Simple!:D

[BisonBohl]

Curious question, how many big sky teams had winning records against D1 non conference opponents?

Summit only had 3.

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[bonarae]

Curious question, how many big sky teams had winning records against D1 non conference opponents?

Summit only had 3.

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Only one this year (Northern Colorado with 4-3).

As for the Ivies... four have winning OOC records this year.

Brown 7-6
Columbia 9-6
Harvard 12-3
Princeton 11-2

[813Jag]

Southern shuts down PVU 91-58, the Jags close the season on Saturday against Texas Southern. The Jags have swept 6 of their 9 SWAC opponents so far.

[darell1976]

UND lost to Southern Utah 77-71 to finish the regular season 12-8 in the BSC and 15-15 overall and will be either a 2 or 3 seed in the conference tournament.

[BisonBohl]

UND lost to Southern Utah 77-71 to finish the regular season 12-8 in the BSC and 15-15 overall and will be either a 2 or 3 seed in the conference tournament.

Wow ouch...that explains how bad the big sky is, a team with no D1 wins knocks off the #2 team in the league...yikes.

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[darell1976]

Wow ouch...that explains how bad the big sky is, a team with no D1 wins knocks off the #2 team in the league...yikes.

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No, it explains how anyone can beat anyone, especially if you overlook your last game and look forward to the conference tournament. It also explains why I think Brian Jones should be fired if UND keeps up its inconsistancy, this isn't the GWC Jones this is the Big Sky.

[clenz]

Wow ouch...that explains how bad the big sky is, a team with no D1 wins knocks off the #2 team in the league...yikes.

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Or....


Or...


I really don't want to start a flame war...


but...


OR...

well..


Didn't NDSU lose to UND by 18...having never led...and tied only once at the 10 minute mark...

[BisonBohl]

Or....


Or...


I really don't want to start a flame war...


but...


OR...

well..


Didn't NDSU lose to UND by 18...having never led...and tied only once at the 10 minute mark...

Haha thought that card would be played, while it was a bad loss for NDSU, und does have some talent. Their problem is they are wildly inconsistent and the coach doesn't have a clue. SUU on the otherhand is awful, had zero D1 wins and was certainly one of the worst teams in college ball this year...

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[BisonBohl]

No, it explains how anyone can beat anyone, especially if you overlook your last game and look forward to the conference tournament. It also explains why I think Brian Jones should be fired if UND keeps up its inconsistancy, this isn't the GWC Jones this is the Big Sky.

A senior led squad in March shouldn't have this happen, especially to a be team like that. I'd be worried if I was you...

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[darell1976]

A senior led squad in March shouldn't have this happen, especially to a be team like that. I'd be worried if I was you...

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I expect 1 win at the most in the BSC Tournament and that is pushing it. All this senior-led talent shouldn't lose to a team with an NAIA win, and consistanly lose on the road. That has been Jones's problem since the GWC days. He is the only coach Faison hasn't fired (or left like Roebuck) since moving up from DII. There are some UND fans who want him, I don't, he should be canned next season if they can't go all the way, or else this team will always be a CIT team.

[FargoBison]

So glad NDSU doesn't have to play SUU ever again, worst road trip in DI athletics. The Summit thanks the Big Sky every day for taking SUU off their hands.

[BEAR]

We suck again and we're losing an NBA draftable senior. Sigh. Oh to return to the good ole days. LOL. Women's team is trying for 2nd title in 3 years but they seem to insist on giving it away.

[TheRevSFA]

We suck again and we're losing an NBA draftable senior. Sigh. Oh to return to the good ole days. LOL. Women's team is trying for 2nd title in 3 years but they seem to insist on giving it away.

SFA women will be glad to take it off of their hands Saturday....

[melloware13]

In the First Round of the CAA Tournament, #8 Hofstra topped #9 UNC Wilmington 78-70. The Pride (10-22) advance to face #1 Delaware in the Quarterfinals tomorrow.

CAA Quarterfinal Schedule (all on CSN-regional):
#1 Delaware v. #8 Hofstra - 12 PM
#4 Drexel v. #5 Northeastern - 2:30 PM
#2 Towson v. #7 James Madison - 6 PM
#3 William & Mary v. #6 Charleston - 8:30 PM

[TheRevSFA]

SFA plays UCA tomorrow and can cap an incredible season by going undefeated in conference.

[Ivytalk]

Harvard beats Yale on road 70-58 to three-peat!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Temple concluded the regular season with a dramatic 66-65 win over USF! The win got us out of the AAC basement which is nice from a pride standpoint. The win pushes the Owls record to 9-21 overall, 4-14 in AAC play....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

AAC schedule is set

First Round 3/12
#7 Rutgers vs. #10 USF
#8 Temple vs. #9 UCF

Quarterfinals 3/13
#3 SMU vs. #6 Houston
#2 Louisville vs. #7/#10 winner
#1 Cincinnati vs. #8/#9 winner
#4 UConn vs. #5 Memphis

[TheRevSFA]

SFA wins both the men's and women's regular season championships

[bonarae]

Harvard set a school record for Ivy wins in beating Brown in OT 98-93. We have at least 10 days to rest and then prepare for the Dance.

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[BEAR]

SFA wins both the men's and women's regular season championships

2 game lead with 3 games left.... And my powers of prophecy came true. I am shocked. What happened to that team? They gave it away! Gave it away! Somebody must be putting the voodoo hex on them because I have never seen them play that flat EVER! Congrats jacks. Heck of a men's season and what a way to luck into that women's title. But hey it counts! I've got to know what happened to those girls! Don't know if I should be worried or pissed.

[WWII]

Albany beats SBU for second consecutive AE title. Beats Mt. St. Mary in opening game of NCAA tournament in Dayton. Faces FL on Thursday.

[darell1976]

NDSU head coach Saul Phillips is leaving the Bison for the Bobcats of Ohio U. I wish him well and he was a great guy to meet. My family (especially my younger son) really liked him and will miss him. As a UND fan he was the only NDSU coach I liked and I wish him great things in the MAC.

[citdog]

OHIO? Could NDSU not pay him what OHIO could?

[clenz]

Ohio is a pretty good mac program

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[citdog]

Ohio is a pretty good mac program

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The MAC? Surely NDSU could have made him the same offer to stay. It's not like we're talking Pitino money here.

[clenz]

The MAC? Surely NDSU could have made him the same offer to stay. It's not like we're talking Pitino money here.

1. The mac I'd still a better conference than the summit
2. Likelihood of getting hired at a bigger, yet, program from Ohio I'd much higher than NDSU.
3. This shows where basketball ranks at NDSU. That win got them more coverage than their three straight titles in football but the boosters/money aren't/isn't there to pony up to keep him.



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[citdog]

WOW! A thread where the Bison Faithful should be discussing their team and we get........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re72di5phM0

[clenz]

WOW! A thread where the Bison Faithful should be discussing their team and we get........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re72di5phM0

See my post above yours

Specifically point 3

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[FargoBison]

Ohio paid him $550k.....NDSU was ready to pay him more but not that much. Maybe $300k is about what NDSU could pay right now.

He is the highest paid coach in the MAC. I'm guessing Ohio has the biggest budget in the MAC as well.

[Bisonator]

OHIO? Could NDSU not pay him what OHIO could?

Not even close. He signed a 5 year deal worth $550k per year.

I wish him and his family the best. He's a good coach but a great person! Thanks Saul for everything you did for Bison BB!

[Bisonator]

We are definitely behind as far as BB coaching salaries but really pretty much on par as far as the success we've seen IMO. I mean let's not go crazy here, we've had 2 tourney appearances and 1 win in 5 years. That's good but hopefully it gets even better once the SHAC is completed. I would have liked to see Saul stay and we probably could have got him to $300-350k but no way we were gonna make it $550 at this point. Like I said I wish him well he certainly deserves it!

[clenz]

Thing is, it's really hard to stay a real good program when you are replacing a coach every time he has one good season.

One good season followed by 3 or 4 years of rebuilding back to that...you hope, because one wrong hire can send a low/mid major program back a decade easy

Just to see that one good season finally come and get right back to having to start over.

This same conversation was had with UND (maybe in this thread, I think in another though) when they brought up they were paying their coach the same as UNI is paying their DBO and 60k less than their volleyball coach.

It's possible to win by having coaches use you as a stepping stone and paying them a low wage. It's very tough to sustain it for the reason listed above, as well as, it set the idea to incoming/potential coaches that this is nothing more than a stepping stone. I realize there are very few "career" coaching positions, but making a coach feel like this is the place he wants to coach until a top level job comes around that he's dreamed of since he was a kid is very important.

NDSU has that kind of support for football...not basketball and it likely never will.

Good seasons will come and go but it's very very tough to maintain.

Within 24 hours of UNI beating Kansas UNI had enough donors pledge money to a new contract that the AD had raised more than a million dollars to put towards a contract for Coach Jake. That contract gives him a 25k a year raise no matter what. He's at/over 600K right now...and still possibly about 4th or 5th in the MVC in pay. I'm not naive enough to believe Jacobson will be here forever, he's 8 years in and is only 41. However, UNI has clearly done enough to make him feel a committment to the point that he has turned down interviews at B12 schools and the one interview he did go through with (TAMU) he turned the job down.

NDSU has the resources to do it....it's whether or not the university actually wants to support basketball.

[FargoBison]

Well we've hit our donors hard to build the new basketball arena(It is 100% donor funded), only so much money to go around. The state has recently done some things that will put NDSU in a better financial place so that helps. Getting the new arena opened up will also help, our current arena was an anchor that just weighed us down.

[BisonFan02]

Well we've hit our donors hard to build the new basketball arena(It is 100% donor funded), only so much money to go around. The state has recently done some things that will put NDSU in a better financial place so that helps. Getting the new arena opened up will also help, our current arena was an anchor that just weighed us down.

This. The BSA is/was a major road block to the program ever going anywhere. What the team has been able to do since going DI is phenomenal given the resources that have been available to them. The project/renovation will be complete for the 2016 season, and hopefully we weather the next two years to build off of the momentum. Basketball has been successful at NDSU in the past (especially women's), and there is plenty of "fan bandwidth" for sports outside of football. Will it ever be the primary sport at schools like UNI or Villanova? No...but that doesn't mean they can't have sustained success at both.

[darell1976]

Where is NDSU going to play during construction? Scheels Arena, Fargodome, or the Civic Center?

[BisonFan02]

Where is NDSU going to play during construction? Scheels Arena, Fargodome, or the Civic Center?

I have no clue....won't be the Fargodome. Maybe the Scheels Arena I would guess? Bunker Fieldhouse for some other things?

[FargoBison]

Men's basketball will be at scheels.....WBB and wrestling at the BBF.

[Bisonator]

Thing is, it's really hard to stay a real good program when you are replacing a coach every time he has one good season.

One good season followed by 3 or 4 years of rebuilding back to that...you hope, because one wrong hire can send a low/mid major program back a decade easy

Just to see that one good season finally come and get right back to having to start over.

This same conversation was had with UND (maybe in this thread, I think in another though) when they brought up they were paying their coach the same as UNI is paying their DBO and 60k less than their volleyball coach.

It's possible to win by having coaches use you as a stepping stone and paying them a low wage. It's very tough to sustain it for the reason listed above, as well as, it set the idea to incoming/potential coaches that this is nothing more than a stepping stone. I realize there are very few "career" coaching positions, but making a coach feel like this is the place he wants to coach until a top level job comes around that he's dreamed of since he was a kid is very important.

NDSU has that kind of support for football...not basketball and it likely never will.

Good seasons will come and go but it's very very tough to maintain.

Within 24 hours of UNI beating Kansas UNI had enough donors pledge money to a new contract that the AD had raised more than a million dollars to put towards a contract for Coach Jake. That contract gives him a 25k a year raise no matter what. He's at/over 600K right now...and still possibly about 4th or 5th in the MVC in pay. I'm not naive enough to believe Jacobson will be here forever, he's 8 years in and is only 41. However, UNI has clearly done enough to make him feel a committment to the point that he has turned down interviews at B12 schools and the one interview he did go through with (TAMU) he turned the job down.

NDSU has the resources to do it....it's whether or not the university actually wants to support basketball.

And yet UNI hasn't done much since either.....xcoffeex

[clenz]

And yet UNI hasn't done much since either.....xcoffeex

Meh...UNI has the longest streak in the MVC of top half finishes...

This year was disappointing and we still managed a 3rd place finish in the MVC. Maybe we should do what a lot of other schools do and play 9 or 10 of our 12 OOC games as complete walk overs in stead of scheduling one of the 30-40 hardest schedules in the nation year in and year out.

UNI didn't play their first D1 home game until Dec 10th (over a month into the season).

UNI has had some extreme cases of "interesting" luck the last 4 years.

Year after S16, sign Doug McDermott (I'm sure you've heard of him) and stop recruiting post players because he committed as a soph and signed in the early signing period. He backs out 2 weeks before he starts summer classes to go with his dad to Creighton. That sets UNI back, greatly, on post players. UNI has tried to fill that spot with a prep school kid who couldn't cut the muster..spent 2 years on him before he quit the team halfway through his second season. Also during that season after the S16 UNI was 18-6 and .5 game out of first place in the MVC having won 9 in a row. Starting center (and back to back 6th man of the year in the MVC) breaks his ankle real late in the season. UNI loses 9 of it's last 11 games but still gets to the third round of the NIT.

Due to the lack of post depth the year after that UNI starts a true freshman at center in the MVC (not really a good thing). He wins MVC FOY. It's a great thing. However, due to other scholarships that would have been used on bigs earlier seasons but were stopped due to having Doug we haven't had a full stable of bigs until next season.

We started 2 true freshman, a soph and 2 jrs this year. Had 1 senior get PT, which disappeared after the halfway mark of the season.

Had Doug not done what he did UNI is likely looking at conference titles (and tournament titles) in 08/09, 09/10 and likely at least 3 of the last 4. Giving UNI something like 9 appearances in 11 years. However, Doug did do it.

Still...prior to this year UNI had 10 straight 18 win seasons and 5 straight 20 win seasons with NCAAs in 04, 05, 06, 09, 10 an NIT apperance in 11 and 2 other births to whatever those are in 12 and 13...would have gotten there again had the team not turned down invites to the CBI and CIT. Over those 4 years UNI has an average finish of 3.25 (4, 3, 3, 3). Only WSU has a higher finish (I believe) over that time.

UNI will be picked to finish 2nd in the league next year.

Finishing 3rd in the MVC would likely get to a title (or split of) in about 14-17 other leagues.

[darell1976]

Men's basketball will be at scheels.....WBB and wrestling at the BBF.

Scheels needs to fix that parking problem and quick. At least it's only for a couple seasons.

[Bisonator]

Meh...UNI has the longest streak in the MVC of top half finishes...
This year was disappointing and we still managed a 3rd place finish in the MVC.

Great, you get t-shirts made up with "3rd place MVC Team" on them yet??? xlolx

[BisonFan02]

Men's basketball will be at scheels.....WBB and wrestling at the BBF.

...can NDSU even do this? I thought men's and women's bball had to be at the same facility?

[IBleedYellow]

Thing is, it's really hard to stay a real good program when you are replacing a coach every time he has one good season.

One good season followed by 3 or 4 years of rebuilding back to that...you hope, because one wrong hire can send a low/mid major program back a decade easy

Just to see that one good season finally come and get right back to having to start over.

This same conversation was had with UND (maybe in this thread, I think in another though) when they brought up they were paying their coach the same as UNI is paying their DBO and 60k less than their volleyball coach.

It's possible to win by having coaches use you as a stepping stone and paying them a low wage. It's very tough to sustain it for the reason listed above, as well as, it set the idea to incoming/potential coaches that this is nothing more than a stepping stone. I realize there are very few "career" coaching positions, but making a coach feel like this is the place he wants to coach until a top level job comes around that he's dreamed of since he was a kid is very important.

NDSU has that kind of support for football...not basketball and it likely never will.

Good seasons will come and go but it's very very tough to maintain.

Within 24 hours of UNI beating Kansas UNI had enough donors pledge money to a new contract that the AD had raised more than a million dollars to put towards a contract for Coach Jake. That contract gives him a 25k a year raise no matter what. He's at/over 600K right now...and still possibly about 4th or 5th in the MVC in pay. I'm not naive enough to believe Jacobson will be here forever, he's 8 years in and is only 41. However, UNI has clearly done enough to make him feel a committment to the point that he has turned down interviews at B12 schools and the one interview he did go through with (TAMU) he turned the job down.

NDSU has the resources to do it....it's whether or not the university actually wants to support basketball.


You're talking about things you know nothing about.

We just finished raising 40+ Million in donations for a brand new athletics facility that was 100% Donor money. We're knocking down obstacles one at a time. With our new facilities coming up, we WILL be able to start affording the 500k+ salaries for coaches, it will happen, we just need to get there.

[clenz]

...can NDSU even do this? I thought men's and women's bball had to be at the same facility?

They do...but I'm not sure if it reads "access to equal seating" or not.

Thigh I can't think of any programs that don't use the use arena

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[FargoBison]

...can NDSU even do this? I thought men's and women's bball had to be at the same facility?

I think so, they will both use the BBF for practice. Omaha does the same thing with MBB and WBB playing in separate facilities for games.

[darell1976]

I think so, they will both use the BBF for practice. Omaha does the same thing with MBB and WBB playing in separate facilities for games.

They can, in the Big Sky Idaho State uses two arenas for men's and women's basketball, Holt Arena 8,000 for the men and Reed Gym 3,040 for the women.

[BisonFan02]

They can, in the Big Sky Idaho State uses two arenas for men's and women's basketball, Holt Arena 8,000 for the men and Reed Gym 3,040 for the women.

Wow. It doesn't bother me a bit if NDSU were to host the teams in different locations while under construction, but in today's PC world, I'm surprised they can get away with it without someone throwing a hissy fit.

[darell1976]

Wow. It doesn't bother me a bit if NDSU were to host the teams in different locations while under construction, but in today's PC world, I'm surprised they can get away with it without someone throwing a hissy fit.

The Gophers do that for hockey too, maybe the women agree they aren't going to sell more tickets then the men so why play in a bigger place that is 70% empty.

[Twentysix]

The Gophers do that for hockey too, maybe the women agree they aren't going to sell more tickets then the men so why play in a bigger place that is 70% empty.

Or in the case of NDSU a place that zero students are ever going to... 9 miles away for a basketball game. Most games NDSU is lucky to get 30 students in attendance, no one is going to go 9 miles to those kind of games.

Big ones will still be sold out, but I still think they will sell with GA tickets not students.

People would go to Hillsborough for Football, but Basketball?? No way.

[Laker]

The Gophers do that for hockey too, maybe the women agree they aren't going to sell more tickets then the men so why play in a bigger place that is 70% empty.

Ridder is a beautiful arena- it has hosted the women's Frozen Four several times and I was there for a D3 men's final. Mav women also play in their own arena. Of course, hockey is a different situation. I remember when the Gopher women played in the Pavilion. Then Lindsey Whalen came along and they needed to move to Williams Arena. Now the crowds have really dropped off.

[BisonBacker]

1. The mac I'd still a better conference than the summit
2. Likelihood of getting hired at a bigger, yet, program from Ohio I'd much higher than NDSU.
3. This shows where basketball ranks at NDSU. That win got them more coverage than their three straight titles in football but the boosters/money aren't/isn't there to pony up to keep him.





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See my post above yours

Specifically point 3

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Clenzy you are too funny. You really think UNI is going to pony up 550k before any perks annually for a Basketball coach? You want to smack the Summit league and NDSU Ball so bad you'll say anything absurd to get it done and you just proved it. Remind me again how did UNI do in the tourney this year? Oh yeah that's right the big bad MVC UNI team didn't make it yet the lowly NDSU team from the Summit did. Carry on.....

[clenz]

UNI is paying 550k for a basketball coach. He was 525 this year, annual raise of 25K no matter what on a 10 year contract that resets it self every year...

[BisonBacker]

Well if that's true kudo's to you. NDSU F'd the pooch big time years ago not moving up to DI when we should have. You guys have had how many decades head start on the move? NDSU will be just fine. Yeah it sucks to lose coaches like we have but that also tells you we have been successful.

[clenz]

Well if that's true kudo's to you. NDSU F'd the pooch big time years ago not moving up to DI when we should have. You guys have had how many decades head start on the move? NDSU will be just fine. Yeah it sucks to lose coaches like we have but that also tells you we have been successful.
http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q340/unipanthers10/NewPicture2_zps85ff4f27.png

He had success and UNI found the money to keep him (FY is different than July Salary..but his contract is the July Salary). It's a unique contract in the fact it is 10 years but it restets at "year 1" ever year.

[BisonBacker]

http://i348.photobucket.com/albums/q340/unipanthers10/NewPicture2_zps85ff4f27.png

He had success and UNI found the money to keep him (FY is different than July Salary..but his contract is the July Salary). It's a unique contract in the fact it is 10 years but it restets at "year 1" ever year.

What are they paying the football coach? Just curious. I'm impressed that you guys are paying that. I believe NDSU will get there in time but as others have pointed out funding the BSA remodel at 40 million all on the backs of private donations has been the priority. Wasn't it all that long ago the politicians in Iowa were looking at gutting UNI's sports budget?

[clenz]

What are they paying the football coach? Just curious. I'm impressed that you guys are paying that. I believe NDSU will get there in time but as others have pointed out funding the BSA remodel at 40 million all on the backs of private donations has been the priority. Wasn't it all that long ago the politicians in Iowa were looking at gutting UNI's sports budget?
That report was completely overblown and not accurate. They want UNI completely off of state funding and "threatened" a deadline to be off funding or it's pulled regardless....that took about a week of fronting before BOR and UNI found a compramise (remember until Texas restructred the B12 a couple years ago Iowa State was still on state funding for athletics...but Texas throwing 20 million a year at them fixed that.)

Farley makes just about 350k...but his contract is structured less on money and more on "perks" when it comes to cars and other things I believe than Jacobson's contract but I'm not sure. He redid his contract a couple years ago but the actual details for how things broke down was never disclosed.

We are paying our VB coach 160, WBB about 150, wrestling about 100...

[IBleedYellow]

I keep having to remind people of this:

We finally have facilities (or will...bear with me on the semantics) where we will be able to/have to/better f'ing do it pay our coaches the salaries that they earn. Now we won't be having to beg our private donors for 40 million+ just to get us a new athletic complex, now we will have a top of the line facility and equipment that we will have to work towards getting our coaches better salaries. I don't see why that is so hard to comprehend, and why you think UNI is so much different now. You have a dome, we have a bigger dome. You have a basketball arena that is relatively new, that seats about 6.5k. We will have a brand new arena that will seat 6k.

Tell me what the difference is? If you say we're a football school, Imma slap a bitch, because we used to have great basketball when we were rolling in our D2 football titles.

[Twentysix]

I keep having to remind people of this:

We finally have facilities (or will...bear with me on the semantics) where we will be able to/have to/better f'ing do it pay our coaches the salaries that they earn. Now we won't be having to beg our private donors for 40 million+ just to get us a new athletic complex, now we will have a top of the line facility and equipment that we will have to work towards getting our coaches better salaries. I don't see why that is so hard to comprehend, and why you think UNI is so much different now. You have a dome, we have a bigger dome. You have a basketball arena that is relatively new, that seats about 6.5k. We will have a brand new arena that will seat 6k.

Tell me what the difference is? If you say we're a football school, Imma slap a bitch, because we used to have great basketball when we were rolling in our D2 football titles.

We also didn't have terrible basketball this year.. receiving some top 25 votes in the final AP poll.

[BisonBacker]

Well outside of Wichita State you tell me what is so freaking special about the conference....
These are the conference win loss and overall records
Wichita State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2724/wichita-state-shockers)18-0 35-1
Indiana State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/282/indiana-state-sycamores)12-6 23-11
Northern Iowa (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2460/northern-iowa-panthers)10-8 16-15
Missouri State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2623/missouri-state-bears)9-9 20-13
Illinois State (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2287/illinois-state-redbirds)9-9 18-16
Southern Illinois (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/79/southern-illinois-salukis)9-9 4-19
Bradley (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/71/bradley-braves)7-11 12-20
Drake (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2181/drake-bulldogs)6-12 15-16
Evansville (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/339/evansville-aces)6-12 14-19
Loyola (IL) (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/_/id/2350/loyola-(il)-ramblers)4-14 10-22

I think it's funny how Clenz hangs his hat on Northern Iowa pays it's coach more and typically finishes in the top 3 of the conference.

[Bisonator]

IMO UNI is over paying Jacobson. He got them to the sweet 16 but he's basically done nothing since. But if they're happy with the return on investment so be it. Just stop with the UNI is all this as a BB power because they are not!

[BisonBacker]

IMO UNI is over paying Jacobson. He got them to the sweet 16 but he's basically done nothing since. But if they're happy with the return on investment so be it. Just stop with the UNI is all this as a BB power because they are not!

I would have to agree his resume isn't all that impressive to command that salary but hey like you say if they are happy with him I guess that's what matters. But I agree with the return on investment being low!

[LeadBolt]

April 16 was the late signing period for Men's Basketball. W&M signed Oliver Tot a 6' 6" PG to go with the three players signed in the early signing period for 2014-15. Rumor has it they are pushing a big man as a transfer for the final scholarship spot.