Sports Network Poll: 7 October

[kdinva]

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=cfoot2/misc/cfoot225poll.aspx

[BisonBacker]

I still think SDSU is to high on that poll.

[Twentysix]

Most teams have played 6 games... How are they justifying teams with a losing record, 1-3, 2-3. And ontop of the losing record, having wins that are unconvincing.

UCA beat incarnate ****ing word and also beat Misery St by 3.... and they have a losing record obviously top 25 material.

New Hampshire has one win and it isn't a good one...

By this same logic, UND is top 25 material, as is Bucknell and Valparaiso.

[Professor Chaos]

UCA has no business in the top 25, much less the top 20 at this point. Having UNH ranked at all is just as laughable.

[NDSUstudent]

Most teams have played 6 games... How are they justifying teams with a losing record, 1-3, 2-3. And ontop of the losing record, having wins that are unconvincing.

UCA beat incarnate ****ing word and also beat Misery St by 3.... and they have a losing record obviously top 25 material.

New Hampshire has one win and it isn't a good one...

By this same logic, UND is top 25 material, as is Bucknell and Valparaiso.

They did get 20 votes. ;)

[SU_IT_able]

GaSo #22 Samford #23...collectively these voters are not paying attention.

[Tribal]

UNH is in the top 25? Why can't these pollsters just admit they made a mistake a month ago and voted correctly now?

[penguinpower]

More proof of CAA bias by TSN. Everything they put out is superficial and weak. POS group of reporters

[penguinpower]

True they don't pay attention, but they are influenced by TSN.

[bluehenbillk]

Not as good as the AGS Poll:

Too High: Montana St & SDSU (both way too high), B-Cookman, UCA & UNH (both shouldn't be ranked, UNH 1-3 really???)

Too Low: Maine (joke to be that low), YSU & Jacksonville St, W&M too

[Wallace]

http:sportsnetwork

The Sports Network FCS Top 25

Team (First-place votes) 2013 Record Points Previous Rank
1. North Dakota State Bison (157) 5-0 3925 1
2. Sam Houston State Bearkats 4-1 3665 2
3. Towson Tigers 6-0 3657 3
4. Northern Iowa Panthers 4-1 3283 4
5. Eastern Illinois Panthers 4-1 3272 5
6. Eastern Washington Eagles 3-2 3124 6
7. Montana State Bobcats 4-2 2902 8
8. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 5-0 2653 9
9. McNeese State Cowboys 5-1 2475 11
10. Fordham Rams 6-0 2451 12
11. Montana Grizzlies 4-1 2433 10
12. Wofford Terriers 3-2 1738 17
13. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 3-3 1660 7
14. Maine Black Bears 5-1 1533 23
15. Villanova Wildcats 3-2 1490 20
16. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 4-1 1391 21
17. Lehigh Mountain Hawks 4-1 1255 13
18. Youngstown State Penguins 5-1 1178 NR
19. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 3-2 1111 15
20. Central Arkansas Bears 2-3 870 14
21. James Madison Dukes 4-2 646 NR
22. Georgia Southern Eagles 3-2 636 16
23. Samford Bulldogs 4-2 592 NR
24. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 5-1 508 NR
25. New Hampshire Wildcats 1-3 424 19
Others receiving votes: Tennessee State 372, Cal Poly 234, Charleston Southern 223, Delaware 220, Yale 201, Gardner-Webb 157, UT Martin 101, South Carolina State 90, William & Mary 88, Harvard 87, Southern Illinois 78, Richmond 66, Southeastern Louisiana 64, Southern Utah 48, Murray State 31, Chattanooga 30, North Dakota 20, Illinois State 14, North Carolina A&T 10, Jackson State 7, Stony Brook 5, Western Illinois 4, Portland State 1, Alcorn State 1, Eastern Kentucky 1.

The Sports Network FCS Top 25 Voters - The Sports Network: Aaron Corrill; Craig Haley; Brandon Lawrence; Phil Sokol; Kevin Spiegel. Big Sky Conference: Brian Berger; Brad Bugger; Eric Burdick; Dave Cook; Neil Gardner; Paul Grua; Jeremy Hoeck; Mick Holien; Jon Kasper; Doug Kelly; Heather Kennedy; Bill Lamberty; Mike Lund; Ryan Powell; Mike Robles; Steve Schaack; Randy Scovil; Mitch Strohman; Denise Thompson. Big South: Zeke Beam; Mike Cawood; Matt Hogue; Chris Lang; Marc Rabb; Mark Simpson; Todd Wetmore; Alan York. CAA Football: Lizzie Barlow; Scott Burns; Zach Burrus; Pete Clawson; Glenn Frazer; Adam Gutes; Dean Kenefick; Allen Lessels; John Martin; Tyson McHatten; Scott Meyer; Mike Murphy; Dan O'Connell; Andrew Santillo; Scott Selheimer; Mike Stoss; Kevin Tresolini. FCS Independents: Matt Harmon; Shane Meling; Greg Viscomi. Ivy League: Rick Bender; Eric Dolan; Chris Humm; Craig Larson; Dan Loney; Craig Sachson. Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference: Thomas Grant; Bill Hamilton; Brian Holloway; Chris Hooks; Ronnie Johnson; Dennis Jones; Kendrick Lewis; Matt Michalec; Patricia Porter; Dan Ryan; Michael Stambaugh; Maurice Williams; Brent Woronoff. Missouri Valley Football Conference: Bryan Boettcher, John Bohnenkamp; Scott Gierman; Todd Golden; Jeremy Hoeck; Jason Hove; Todd Hefferman; Ace Hunt; Mike Kern; Rick Kindhart; Jeff Kolpack; Colin McDonough; Patrick Osterman; Trevor Parks; Randy Reinhardt; Jeff Schwartz; Mike Williams; Terry Vandrovec. Northeast Conference: Barry Beal; John Beisser; Brian Cleary; Spencer Kowitz; Tad Maurey; Ralph Ventre. Ohio Valley Conference: Neal Bradley; John Brush; Michael Clark; Wallace Dooley; Jeff Honza; Brad Kirtley; Rich Moser: Brian Nielsen: Karl Park: Mike Parris: Ryne Rickman; Rob Schabert: Kyle Schwartz: Greg Seitz. Patriot League: Charles Bare; Joe DiBari; Matt Dougherty; Keith Groller; Phil LaBella; Steve Lomangino; Eric Malanowski; Matt Markus; John Painter. Pioneer Football League: Ty Patton; Mark Brumbaugh; Cody Bush; Jack Cronin; Mike Ferraro; Ted Gosen; Doug Hauschild; Ricky Hazel; Paul Oren; Ty Patton; Matt Schabert; Jason Williams; Ryan Wronkowicz. Southern Conference: Jay Blackman; Tommy Bowman; Rose Carter; Mike Flynn; Brian Gargone; Don Heath; David Jackson; Keith Jarrett; Joey Mullins; Chris Rash; Hunter Reid; Todd Shanesy; Adam Smith; Brent Williamson. Southland Conference: Jason Barfield; Louis Bonnette; Matthew Bonnette; Jamie Bustos; Kenny Bybee; Erik Cox; James Dixon; Alex Hickey; Doug Ireland; Todd Lamb; David McCollum; Teddy Renois; Gene Shallenberg. Southwestern Athletic Conference: Santoria Black; Rodney Bush; Chris Jones; Zena Lewis; Wesley Peterson; Je'Kel Smith; Brandon Willis. Other Representatives: Rolf Bertulies; Brian Brennan; Josh Buchanan; Jim Seman.

[penguinpower]

We have the real poll here. Most informed FCS voters here and people are called out when they put something out that doesn't pass the smell test.

[Wallace]

The Sports Network FCS Top 25 Voters -

5 The Sports Network: Aaron Corrill; Craig Haley; Brandon Lawrence; Phil Sokol; Kevin Spiegel.

19 Big Sky Conference: Brian Berger; Brad Bugger; Eric Burdick; Dave Cook; Neil Gardner; Paul Grua; Jeremy Hoeck; Mick Holien; Jon Kasper; Doug Kelly; Heather Kennedy; Bill Lamberty; Mike Lund; Ryan Powell; Mike Robles; Steve Schaack; Randy Scovil; Mitch Strohman; Denise Thompson.

8 Big South: Zeke Beam; Mike Cawood; Matt Hogue; Chris Lang; Marc Rabb; Mark Simpson; Todd Wetmore; Alan York.

17 CAA Football: Lizzie Barlow; Scott Burns; Zach Burrus; Pete Clawson; Glenn Frazer; Adam Gutes; Dean Kenefick; Allen Lessels; John Martin; Tyson McHatten; Scott Meyer; Mike Murphy; Dan O'Connell; Andrew Santillo; Scott Selheimer; Mike Stoss; Kevin Tresolini.

3 FCS Independents: Matt Harmon; Shane Meling; Greg Viscomi.

6 Ivy League: Rick Bender; Eric Dolan; Chris Humm; Craig Larson; Dan Loney; Craig Sachson.

13 Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference: Thomas Grant; Bill Hamilton; Brian Holloway; Chris Hooks; Ronnie Johnson; Dennis Jones; Kendrick Lewis; Matt Michalec; Patricia Porter; Dan Ryan; Michael Stambaugh; Maurice Williams; Brent Woronoff.

18 Missouri Valley Football Conference: Bryan Boettcher, John Bohnenkamp; Scott Gierman; Todd Golden; Jeremy Hoeck; Jason Hove; Todd Hefferman; Ace Hunt; Mike Kern; Rick Kindhart; Jeff Kolpack; Colin McDonough; Patrick Osterman; Trevor Parks; Randy Reinhardt; Jeff Schwartz; Mike Williams; Terry Vandrovec.

6 Northeast Conference: Barry Beal; John Beisser; Brian Cleary; Spencer Kowitz; Tad Maurey; Ralph Ventre.

14 Ohio Valley Conference: Neal Bradley; John Brush; Michael Clark; Wallace Dooley; Jeff Honza; Brad Kirtley; Rich Moser: Brian Nielsen: Karl Park: Mike Parris: Ryne Rickman; Rob Schabert: Kyle Schwartz: Greg Seitz.

9 Patriot League: Charles Bare; Joe DiBari; Matt Dougherty; Keith Groller; Phil LaBella; Steve Lomangino; Eric Malanowski; Matt Markus; John Painter.

13 Pioneer Football League: Ty Patton; Mark Brumbaugh; Cody Bush; Jack Cronin; Mike Ferraro; Ted Gosen; Doug Hauschild; Ricky Hazel; Paul Oren; Ty Patton; Matt Schabert; Jason Williams; Ryan Wronkowicz.

14 Southern Conference: Jay Blackman; Tommy Bowman; Rose Carter; Mike Flynn; Brian Gargone; Don Heath; David Jackson; Keith Jarrett; Joey Mullins; Chris Rash; Hunter Reid; Todd Shanesy; Adam Smith; Brent Williamson.

13 Southland Conference: Jason Barfield; Louis Bonnette; Matthew Bonnette; Jamie Bustos; Kenny Bybee; Erik Cox; James Dixon; Alex Hickey; Doug Ireland; Todd Lamb; David McCollum; Teddy Renois; Gene Shallenberg.

7 Southwestern Athletic Conference: Santoria Black; Rodney Bush; Chris Jones; Zena Lewis; Wesley Peterson; Je'Kel Smith; Brandon Willis.

4 Other Representatives: Rolf Bertulies; Brian Brennan; Josh Buchanan; Jim Seman.

Anything unusual here?

[Go Green]

Others receiving votes: Cal Poly 234, Yale 201,

The Ivy gets no respect. :(

[Vooter]

Happy to see that Maine jumped to #14--they deserve it...

[penguinpower]

[QUOTE=Wallace;2024598]The Sports Network FCS Top 25 Voters -

5 The Sports Network: Aaron Corrill; Craig Haley; Brandon Lawrence; Phil Sokol; Kevin Spiegel.

19 Big Sky Conference: Brian Berger; Brad Bugger; Eric Burdick; Dave Cook; Neil Gardner; Paul Grua; Jeremy Hoeck; Mick Holien; Jon Kasper; Doug Kelly; Heather Kennedy; Bill Lamberty; Mike Lund; Ryan Powell; Mike Robles; Steve Schaack; Randy Scovil; Mitch Strohman; Denise Thompson.

8 Big South: Zeke Beam; Mike Cawood; Matt Hogue; Chris Lang; Marc Rabb; Mark Simpson; Todd Wetmore; Alan York.

17 CAA Football: Lizzie Barlow; Scott Burns; Zach Burrus; Pete Clawson; Glenn Frazer; Adam Gutes; Dean Kenefick; Allen Lessels; John Martin; Tyson McHatten; Scott Meyer; Mike Murphy; Dan O'Connell; Andrew Santillo; Scott Selheimer; Mike Stoss; Kevin Tresolini.

3 FCS Independents: Matt Harmon; Shane Meling; Greg Viscomi.

6 Ivy League: Rick Bender; Eric Dolan; Chris Humm; Craig Larson; Dan Loney; Craig Sachson.

13 Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference: Thomas Grant; Bill Hamilton; Brian Holloway; Chris Hooks; Ronnie Johnson; Dennis Jones; Kendrick Lewis; Matt Michalec; Patricia Porter; Dan Ryan; Michael Stambaugh; Maurice Williams; Brent Woronoff.

18 Missouri Valley Football Conference: Bryan Boettcher, John Bohnenkamp; Scott Gierman; Todd Golden; Jeremy Hoeck; Jason Hove; Todd Hefferman; Ace Hunt; Mike Kern; Rick Kindhart; Jeff Kolpack; Colin McDonough; Patrick Osterman; Trevor Parks; Randy Reinhardt; Jeff Schwartz; Mike Williams; Terry Vandrovec.

6 Northeast Conference: Barry Beal; John Beisser; Brian Cleary; Spencer Kowitz; Tad Maurey; Ralph Ventre.

14 Ohio Valley Conference: Neal Bradley; John Brush; Michael Clark; Wallace Dooley; Jeff Honza; Brad Kirtley; Rich Moser: Brian Nielsen: Karl Park: Mike Parris: Ryne Rickman; Rob Schabert: Kyle Schwartz: Greg Seitz.

9 Patriot League: Charles Bare; Joe DiBari; Matt Dougherty; Keith Groller; Phil LaBella; Steve Lomangino; Eric Malanowski; Matt Markus; John Painter.

13 Pioneer Football League: Ty Patton; Mark Brumbaugh; Cody Bush; Jack Cronin; Mike Ferraro; Ted Gosen; Doug Hauschild; Ricky Hazel; Paul Oren; Ty Patton; Matt Schabert; Jason Williams; Ryan Wronkowicz.

14 Southern Conference: Jay Blackman; Tommy Bowman; Rose Carter; Mike Flynn; Brian Gargone; Don Heath; David Jackson; Keith Jarrett; Joey Mullins; Chris Rash; Hunter Reid; Todd Shanesy; Adam Smith; Brent Williamson.

13 Southland Conference: Jason Barfield; Louis Bonnette; Matthew Bonnette; Jamie Bustos; Kenny Bybee; Erik Cox; James Dixon; Alex Hickey; Doug Ireland; Todd Lamb; David McCollum; Teddy Renois; Gene Shallenberg.

7 Southwestern Athletic Conference: Santoria Black; Rodney Bush; Chris Jones; Zena Lewis; Wesley Peterson; Je'Kel Smith; Brandon Willis.

4 Other Representatives: Rolf Bertulies; Brian Brennan; Josh Buchanan; Jim Seman.


Nice. Add int he extra CAA votes from TSN to the CAA and the poll is weighted CAA.

[penguinpower]

The Ivy gets no respect. :(

They should.

[mainejeff]

For the love of God..........how is UNH still ranked?!?!?!?

[penguinpower]

For the love of God..........how is UNH still ranked?!?!?!?

They forgot that Ricky Santos isn't playing

[Walkon79]

Not as good as the AGS Poll:

Too High: Montana St & SDSU (both way too high), B-Cookman, UCA & UNH (both shouldn't be ranked, UNH 1-3 really???)

Too Low: Maine (joke to be that low), YSU & Jacksonville St, W&M too

In your mind, but the majority of AGS voters must have disagreed.

[blueballs]

GaSo #22 Samford #23...collectively these voters are not paying attention.

It is impossible to justify that...

[JMUNJ08]

5-1 Maine, with a respectable loss to Northwestern which went toe to toe with THE Ohio Stat Buckeyes is below 3-3 SDSU.... I can now erase the thought of this poll from my memory...

[MTfan4life]

South Dakota State - 1660 votes
Southern Illinois - 78 votes

Both teams are 3-3. The best two wins for SIU? Head to head win @ SDSU and 17 point win over SEMO. The best two wins for SDSU? single digit home win over SELA, and a single digit road win over a UND team that has already suffered two 40 point home losses. To say these voters have done their research is a crock.

[Texas]

SELA is a better team than you think.

However UCA and McNeese are highly overrated.

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[Skyhawk71]

Central Arkansas (2-3) LOST to Tennessee-Martin--------Jacksonville State (5-1) DESTROYED Tennessee-Martin; Tennessee State should also be ranked..........I know that there is an unwritten law against having three OVC teams ranked, but really sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, if Bethune-Cookman is 16- they only beat TSU by 3.................

[Humble Steward]

Central Arkansas (2-3) LOST to Tennessee-Martin--------Jacksonville State (5-1) DESTROYED Tennessee-Martin; Tennessee State should also be ranked..........I know that there is an unwritten law against having three OVC teams ranked, but really sometimes you just have to bite the bullet, if Bethune-Cookman is 16- they only beat TSU by 3.................

I agree that Tennessee State should be ranked as well. Our game against them was a true defensive battle and the first game for both teams. Since then, Tennessee State has reeled off 5 straight wins. I believe they will be in the playoffs, which will make our victory over a talented OVC squad that much more impressive.

[penguinpower]

I agree that Tennessee State should be ranked as well. Our game against them was a true defensive battle and the first game for both teams. Since then, Tennessee State has reeled off 5 straight wins. I believe they will be in the playoffs, which will make our victory over a talented OVC squad that much more impressive.

I did lime to see ysu have a defensive battle but the don't k ow the definition of defense imop.

[Squealofthepig]

I did lime to see ysu have a defensive battle but the don't k ow the definition of defense imop.

...wut?

[lionsrking2]

It is impossible to justify that...

If that's the case, we beat Samford on the road with our backup QB - and had a three TD lead in the fourth quarter ... yet Samford is ranked and we're not. Our two losses are to TCU in a game in which we were very competitive, and to South Dakota State, whom we dominated statistically and led by double figures for most of the game ... if we don't turn it over six times - including a pick 6 - and have 12 penalties, that's probably a comfortable road win for us. And we beat SEMO worse than Ole Miss, Southern Illinois, UT-Martin and Tennessee State.

[penguinpower]

...wut?


Damnit, I was using my daughters Kindle Fire and I dont' know how to shut the spell check off. The damn thing changes words and guesses what you want to write. It always guesses wrong. Looks like I was drunk. Slurred typing.

That was supposed to say:

I would love to see YSU have a defensive battle but they don't know the definition of defense.

[penguinpower]

If that's the case, we beat Samford on the road with our backup QB - and had a three TD lead in the fourth quarter ... yet Samford is ranked and we're not. Our two losses are to TCU in a game in which we were very competitive, and to South Dakota State, whom we dominated statistically and led by double figures for most of the game ... if we don't turn it over six times - including a pick 6 - and have 12 penalties, that's probably a comfortable road win for us. And we beat SEMO worse than Ole Miss, Southern Illinois, UT-Martin and Tennessee State.


I am not sure transitive properties can apply over 6 weeks due to injuries.

[WrenFGun]

For the love of God..........how is UNH still ranked?!?!?!?

It's honestly an embarrassment to FCS that UNH is being included in these polls.

[McNeese75]

SELA is a better team than you think.

However UCA and McNeese are highly overrated.

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In your LESS than humble opinion

[walliver]

Damnit, I was using my daughters Kindle Fire and I dont' know how to shut the spell check off. The damn thing changes words and guesses what you want to write. It always guesses wrong. Looks like I was drunk. Slurred typing.

...

Today's young people are too lazy to misspell words themselves, and have to use technology to do it for them.:D

[mainejeff]

It's honestly an embarrassment to FCS that UNH is being included in these polls.

Although this would never happen if it were Maine (we have a hard time getting ranked with winning records!).........if somehow it did happen and Maine were ranked with a 1-3 record, I would be embarrassed as well..........although the true embarrassment falls on the voters.xcrazyx

[lionsrking2]

I am not sure transitive properties can apply over 6 weeks due to injuries.

I'm not talking transitive properties, I'm talking about head to head results and comparing the quality of schedule and performance vs a team ranked ahead of us.

[SU_IT_able]

As noted above, I feel your pain. (Being ranked lower than a team you've beaten.) However, when the Lions beat Samford three Saturdays past, we were not ranked. So, in the voters mind, that victory probably didn't impress as much as did our win over a ranked GaSo this week. When you guys play relatively mistake free, you are a force with which to be reckoned. You definitely have the potential to be ranked when it really counts. Good luck!

[Texas]

In your LESS than humble opinion

Truth hurts.

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[DoubleH]

Not as good as the AGS Poll:

Too High: Montana St & SDSU (both way too high), B-Cookman, UCA & UNH (both shouldn't be ranked, UNH 1-3 really???)

Too Low: Maine (joke to be that low), YSU & Jacksonville St, W&M too

This is spot-on. I also think Fordham is too low.

Last time I agree with a Delaware fan.

[McNeese75]

Truth hurts.

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Sorry, just because you said it, does not make it truth