Patriot League Pick 'em - Week 7

[carney2]

Perhaps there’s life after all in the Patriot League. Lots of "no contests" this week.

Week 7 – October 12, 2013

LEHIGH @ Columbia

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN

Stony Brook @ COLGATE

Patriot League vs. OOC:

AAC 1-0
CAA 3-4
Ivy 5-6
Mountain West 0-1
NEC 4-5
Pioneer 2-1

Most Impressive Win of the Week:

COLGATE 41, Cornell 20 – Cornell is not very good, but didn’t think ‘gate had this in them.

Most Disappointing Loss of the Week:

LAFAYETTE 31, BUCKNELL 7 – The Buffaloes are in the running for “Worst Visiting Team To Play At Fisher Stadium In A Long, Long Time.” Pitiful.

Standings (Fordham counts):

Fordham 6-0, 1-0
Lafayette 1-3, 1-0
Holy Cross 2-4, 0-0
Georgetown 1-4, 0-0
Colgate 1-4, 0-0
Lehigh 4-1, 0-1
Bucknell 1-3, 0-1

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh-Columbia and Fordham-Georgetown are going to be VERY ugly imo...

[carney2]

Lehigh-Columbia and Fordham-Georgetown are going to be VERY ugly imo...

All five have that potential.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

All five have that potential.

SBU has been treading water the last 3 weeks. I'd be disappointed if Colgate doesn't hang in.

Cornell was a TO machine today. A good rivalry win though for CU.

Princeton looks darn good. Lafayette can turn some heads with a good effort. A win would really be impressive in NJ...

[bonarae]

LEHIGH @ Columbia

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton - this game can make or break either team's hopes of a winning season. Toss-up

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN - OK, is Georgetown the PL's version of Savannah State, Austin Peay or Idaho State, with no hope of improvement? xsmhx

Stony Brook @ COLGATE - I'm not sure about this. Stony Brook's season was essentially over after the Coker injury.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I'm wondering if Bucknell will threaten the PL record for fewest points scored. Their offense is historically bad...

[Sader87]

I'm a little wary as we nevah play well at Christy Mathewson.

Just get used to the name Peter Pujals though....the kid is the real deal....wow.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Holy Cross: Best 2-4 team in the country. Discuss.

[ngineer]

Columbia could not come at a better time for Mountain Hawks, who should be looking to kick the crap out of someone after blowing major opportunities to make a statement in the Bronx on Saturday. Lehigh 52-17.

Leotards may be waking up and Tiggers should be a good measuring stick. Win, though, goes to the Pooh (PU), 30-27.

The Cross goes to Christy. Will there be 1,000 in the stands? No chips to be cashed. Bison go belly up. Holy Cross, 24-7.

The only fear Fordham will have in Washington is not getting caught in a filibuster or sequester. Rams, take foot off pedal in fourth, 45-6.

'gate may have become rehanged and starting to swing. SBU turning into an sbu? Raiders finding some mojo, and jump back into the 'conversation', 34-28.

[dystopiamembrane]

Rankings:
1. Fordham
2. Lehigh
3. Holy Cross
4. Lafayette
5. Colgate
6. Bucknell
7. Georgetown

Predictions:
Columbia 17-38 Lehigh
Princeton 34-24 Lafayette
Bucknell 7-27 Holy Cross
Georgetown 20-49 Fordham
Colgate 17-34 ​Stony Brook

[carney2]

LEHIGH @ Columbia – I’m assuming that the Lions field a team because the League pressures them to do it.

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton – 4 wins in 130 years.

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL – The Buffaloes need Wesley and their top RB to return, an OL, a receiver or two, and then maybe, just maybe, they could get past midfield.

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN - From the fury of the Rams, good Lord, deliver us.

Stony Brook @ COLGATE – Has Biddle righted his ship? We find out this week.

[Sader87]

Holy Cross: Best 2-4 team in the country. Discuss.

We really aren't "good" yet....but we are improving from week to week and Pujals makes us very dangerous to teams that on paper are better than us right now.

[DFW HOYA]

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN - OK, is Georgetown the PL's version of Savannah State, Austin Peay or Idaho State, with no hope of improvement? xsmhx

FWIW, Georgetown's talent drops noticeably after this year's senior class. Check LFN's review of last year's GU recruiting results for some perspective.

Put another way, if you aren't able to recruit the right kids and get them admitted, you don't succeed on the field.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

19-14 overall, worst year ever!!

Princeton 38 Lafayette 28 - The Tigers are rolling on offense right now.

Holy Cross 34 Bucknell 10 - The Crusaders are trending up while the Bison might be as bad as ever...

Stony Brook 42 Colgate 35 - SBU has been stumbling the last few weeks. If Colgate wants to build off of the Cornell win they can't get blown out.

Fordham 55 Georgetown 13 - This is going to be very ugly...

Lehigh 52 Columbia 21 - Poor, poor Columbia....

[Skyhawk71]

Lehigh @ Columbia
Lafayette @ Princeton
Holy Cross @ Bucknell
Stony Brook @ Colgate
Fordham @ Georgetown

[RichH2]

Tigers over Pards.Pards still indire need of a QB
Purple Pujols over Bison. Not a contest
Gate over SBU but a contest
FU over Hoyas even if Rams slump a stomping
LU over Columbia but not I think by as much as we expect,still a rout

[Ivytalk]

Lehigh @ Columbia
Lafayette @ Princeton
Holy Cross @ Bucknell
Stony Brook @ Colgate
Fordham @ Georgetown

I agree with these picks.

[Kramer]

Lehigh @ Columbia
Lafayette @ Princeton
Holy Cross @ Bucknell
Stony Brook @ Colgate
Fordham @ Georgetown

I'll have what he's having.

[RichH2]

Question for Gate. Saw McCarney hurt knee .Serious?

[Bill]

It's a good thing no one's keeping track of these....but I'm 22-11 thus far.

This week:
Lehigh @ Columbia
Lafayette @ Princeton
Holy Cross @ Bucknell
Stony Brook @ Colgate
Fordham @ Georgetown

I don't think I'm breaking any new ground with these choices....

[PAllen]

Perhaps there’s life after all in the Patriot League. Lots of "no contests" this week.


LEHIGH @ Columbia

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN

Stony Brook @ COLGATE

[Sader87]

How I would rank the PL teams through Week 6:

1. Fordham Made a statement Sat. If I had to pick a nit, D is a little shaky.

2. Lehigh Hung tough, but Rams just do what you do, a bit better.

3. HC Coulda, woulda, shoulda against the Johnnies...getting better.

4. Colgate May have awoken from a September slumber.

5. Lafayette See #4 Colgate

6. Bucknell At the very least they a have a semblance of a defense.

7. GTown Like Bucknell, Hoya fans have turned their lonely eyes to roundball.

[CFBfan]

How i would rank the PL teams through Week 6;

1. Fordham Made a statement Sat. If I had to pick a nit, D is a little shaky.

2. Lehigh Hung tough, but Rams just do what you do, a bit better.

3. HC Coulda, woulda, shoulda against the Johnnies...getting better.

4. Colgate May have awoken from a September slumber.

5. Lafayette See #4 Colgate

6. Bucknell At the very least they a have a semblance of a defense.

7. GTown Like Bucknell, Hoya fans have turned their lonely eyes to roundball.

next week: gate @ coss should prove to be a very good,very interesting and very telling game.....

[TheValleyRaider]

3-1 last week, up to 18-15 so far. Too close to .500 for my liking, so on we go...

Lehigh at Columbia Lehigh After all the talk about Lehigh's character during their early season comebacks, I think this game will demonstrate the most about their mental toughness. Tough loss against the presumptive League favorite puts a damper on the 2013 campaign, and with 2012 memories still fresh, makes winning out more imperative. How will the Hawks respond to a difficult loss, knowing more pressure is heaped on their shoulders, and another trip to NYC on tap? I'm just kidding. Lehigh bounces back easily in Harlem.

Lafayette at Princeton Princeton The Tigers are suddenly earning some press around the nation (or at least a few posters trying to sing their praises), and look to put themselves firmly in the conversation for an Ivy crown. No time for that this week, of course, as Old Nassau plays host to the suddenly potent Leopards. Does their big win over a solid defense set the stage for a late-season run for Tavani's Tabbies? Or is it the usual Lafayette trick of setting the stage before knocking it down again? Expectations are a fickle thing, and the safe bet is usually to pick the Ivy in this matchup. Still, I can't pretend I won't wonder...

Holy Cross at Bucknell Holy Cross Now here's a team wondering how they respond to their loss last weekend. Of course I mean the Bison, who will have to bounce back from getting run out of Easton by a previously toothless Lafayette offense. Just kidding, the focus here is on HC, who came ever-so-close to a win over Harvard before faltering at the end. No real shame in losing to the contending Crimson, but the manner will sting. Pujals seems like the savior-apparent in Worcester, so it will be important that he keeps momentum going with a League matchup against a team the Cross ought to beat.

Fordham at Georgetown Fordham Serious concern from Fordham's perspective here is keeping their heads right after a big win this past week. While they certainly look like the Hoyas of old, Georgetown is a long way from the Bronx, and the small crowd could certainly play with Fordham's heads. The St. Francis scenario is in play here, I think. That is, G'town might stick around for a bit while the Rams get their bearings, but this looks like the biggest mismatch of the weekend.

Stony Brook at Colgate Colgate There was much rejoicing in Hamilton as the Raiders notched win #1, and more importantly avoided the singular embarrassment of losing to SUNY-Ithaca. McCarney's injury leaves his status up in the air, but Jake Melville acquitted himself nicely in relief, leading the way to a victory. It's not enough for me to appoint him the next great Colgate QB, but it was nice to see. If McCarney is healthy enough, he will start. As for Stony Brook, Year 1 in the CAA has been a bit difficult after their recent success, and injuries have limited their ceiling. A matchup that looks much different today than it did on Friday for sure. One thing to keep in mind: Colgate was thisclose to beating the Seawolves on the road last year, and while the Raiders aren't quite as good, neither is Stony Brook. Also notable, my first trip back to the friendly confines of Hamilton for a game since 2007, so that'll be fun

[Bogus Megapardus]

I would consider trading a Princeton win this week for a six score shut out and beat down of Georgetown. I'd have to think about it.

[Engineer86]

I would consider trading a Princeton win this week for a six score shut out and beat down of Georgetown. I'd have to think about it.

I will gladly grant you a six score beat down of Georgetown and a win in Princeton this weekend. All you need to do is give up your soul ... xsmiley_wix

[heath]

Holy Cross: Best 2-4 team in the country. Discuss.
Best 2-9 team in country last season. Will give everyone in PL but Fordham fits....................Somehow they will determine the PL champs,if not win it.:o

[Southsider]

Best 2-9 team in country last season. Will give everyone in PL but Fordham fits....................Somehow they will determine the PL champs,if not win it.:o

You may be right in the end......I saw Cross against Dartmouth. The frosh QB very exciting. Where they go from here? Who knows. It will be fun finding out.

[crusader11]

Best 2-9 team in country last season. Will give everyone in PL but Fordham fits....................Somehow they will determine the PL champs,if not win it.:o

Will say it again, PLC will be played between HC and Lehigh at Goodman.

[ColgateTD]

Will say it again, PLC will be played between HC and Lehigh at Goodman.

Hopefully we'll have some bearing on that next weekend :)

[Sader87]

Wesley reportedly will play QB for the Bison Saturday.

Guild (RB) and Toulouse (WR) who have been dinged up for the Saders reportedly will play too.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Will say it again, PLC will be played between HC and Lehigh at Goodman.

I still bet you'd trade your freshman phenom QB for Fran O'Hanlon in a heartbeat.

[RichH2]

xsmugx Something is awry here,we are already to Tuesday and still on topic. C'mon guys :)

[crusader11]

I still bet you'd trade your freshman phenom QB for Fran O'Hanlon in a heartbeat.

Nah, Milan is coaching himself out of a job and will be caput by the end of this season when he loses to Fran for the fourth straight season in the PL Tournament.

Pujals still has 3.5 years left.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Nah, Milan is coaching himself out of a job and will be caput by the end of this season when he loses to Fran for the fourth straight season in the PL Tournament.

Pujals still has 3.5 years left.

It's at the point where those of us in Easton really look forward to those HC/Pard PL tourney matchups. Football is one thing but if you're of my generation (1980s) at Lafayette, Holy Cross always is the team to beat in BBall. I don't think I've missed an HC game in Easton in 25 years. Bucknell is good but to me Holy Cross always is the epitome of PL basketball. Plus, HC fans always show up for their team no matter what.

So yes, I'd relish a fourth straight Pard win in the tourney over the Crusaders, especially if it's played in the "new" Kirby. Maybe Milan Brown can find his calling somewhere in the MAAC or NEC. We'll keep FOH.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

It's at the point where those of us in Easton really look forward to those HC/Pard PL tourney matchups. Football is one thing but if you're of my generation (1980s) at Lafayette, Holy Cross always is the team to beat in BBall. I don't think I've missed an HC game in Easton in 25 years. Bucknell is good but to me Holy Cross always is the epitome of PL basketball. Plus, HC fans always show up for their team no matter what.

So yes, I'd relish a fourth straight Pard win in the tourney over the Crusaders, especially if it's played in the "new" Kirby. Maybe Milan Brown can find his calling somewhere in the MAAC or NEC. We'll keep FOH.

But who will host that play-in game to the new PL tourney, though? xlolx

[Bogus Megapardus]

But who will host that play-in game to the new PL tourney, though? xlolx

Good point. Lehigh is going to have to go on the road to face someone in a play-in. Perhaps you'll lose to the Crusaders in Worcester, though I'd really rather have the chance to defeat both you at Kirby on the way to the championship. Wouldn't you agree that would be best for the PL's CBS Sports ratings??

[Sader87]

Actually we sucked for a good chunk of the 80s in hoop....believe me, I was there for a lot of it.

5 years of college hoop down the drain......xrotatehx

[RichH2]

Thanks guys, my faith is restored,on to Basketball

[crusader11]

Really no better way to hijack a thread than getting me started on HC and Patriot League hoops.

[crusader11]

...kinda like getting my comrade '87 talking about how the Patriot League destroyed Holy Cross football.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Really no better way to hijack a thread than getting me started on HC and Patriot League hoops.

Desperate times, crusader11.

[Sader87]

...kinda like getting my comrade '87 talking about how the Patriot League destroyed Holy Cross football.

In all seriousness....it nearly did.

[Go...gate]

We have ten teams, so everybody makes the conference BB tournament, right?

[Sader87]

We have ten teams, so everybody makes the conference BB tournament, right?

Yes....2 "play-in games": 7 vs 10 and 8 vs 9 to get it to 8 teams I believe. Then from there, same old, same old.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Yes....2 "play-in games": 7 vs 10 and 8 vs 9 to get it to 8 teams I believe. Then from there, same old, same old.

So are you saying Lafayette/HC will be the 7/10, or the 8/9? xlolx

[Sader87]

I actually think HC may surprise a bit this year in hoop. They probably have the best big man in Dudzinski, one of the better PG's (if he plays within himself) in Burrell and some intriguing 1st and 2nd year guys. I could see them coming in the top 5 somewhere. Then we lose to Lafayette in the first round.

[RichH2]

The top teams lose a lot and BU has a lot. Top 5 after BU IMO BU,LU LC,HC.Going to be fun.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Tony Johnson starts tonight as the starting PG for SPM Shoeters den Bosch, the top team in the Dutch league.

You guys at Holy Cross and Lehigh remember Tony, don't you? ;)

[RichH2]

Tony Johnson starts tonight as the starting PG for SPM Shoeters den Bosch, the top team in the Dutch league.

You guys at Holy Cross and Lehigh remember Tony, don't you? ;)Glad he's in Holland.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Actually we sucked for a good chunk of the 80s in hoop....believe me, I was there for a lot of it.


I never saw it that way. I just enjoyed the opportunity to play Holy Cross. It's always been the game on the schedule that I look forward to the most. Maybe it's tradition, but to me Holy Cross means basketball.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Glad he's in Holland.


Coulda been in the NBA . . . . xbawlingx

[Kramer]

Tony Johnson starts tonight as the starting PG for SPM Shoeters den Bosch, the top team in the Dutch league.

You guys at Holy Cross and Lehigh remember Tony, don't you? ;)

great player!

[crusader11]

Tony Johnson starts tonight as the starting PG for SPM Shoeters den Bosch, the top team in the Dutch league.

You guys at Holy Cross and Lehigh remember Tony, don't you? ;)

Loved his game and will miss watching him in the PL.

It's Nick Lindner time now in Easton!

[Pard4Life]

So are you saying Lafayette/HC will be the 7/10, or the 8/9? xlolx

Don't laugh... Lehigh most likely will be in that 7-8 spot.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Don't laugh... Lehigh most likely will be in that 7-8 spot.

Nothing would please me more than a return to normalcy - meaning Lehigh irrelevance in PL basketball. PL basketball means Bucknell, Holy Cross, American and Lafayette. No more, no less.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I can't see PL hoops being very good this year. No chance to win a true first round game imo.

PL football better and more interesting....

[Bogus Megapardus]

Week 7 Sportsbook:

Lehigh (-28) at Columbia o/u 55½

Harvard (-20½) at Cornell o/u 73½

Fordham (-28½) at Georgetown o/u 68½

Princeton (-13½) vs Lafayette o/u 57

Holy Cross (-15½) at Bucknell o/u 35

Brown (-6) at Bryant o/u 49

Yale (-6½) at Dartmouth o/u 50

William & Mary (-19) vs Penn o/u 41

Stony Brook (-14½) at Colgate o/u 56½

[ngineer]

Looks about right, except I think Penn will make it closer. Slow out of the box this year, but I can't believe Bagnoli will let it slide further.

[Bill]

Week 7 Sportsbook:

Lehigh (-28) at Columbia o/u 55½



I wish I had the guts to bet the over in this game. Wouldn't touch the spread, but I like the over.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

If I were still a betting man I'd put a sizeable chunk on Colgate +14 1/2.

[PAllen]

Would've had to have been in the Big East first.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

If I were still a betting man I'd put a sizeable chunk on Colgate +14 1/2.

Derp... maybe not.

Game notes and 2 deep for Stony Brook... bit.ly/18OVtod (http://t.co/DVWeOZ3J1A) Of note: McCarney and DeCicco are both listed as questionable.

[Lehigh'98]

Derp... maybe not.

Game notes and 2 deep for Stony Brook... bit.ly/18OVtod (http://t.co/DVWeOZ3J1A) Of note: McCarney and DeCicco are both listed as questionable.

I wouldn't put a penny on a 1-4 Colgate team with a bad Albany loss playing a team that damn near beat Towson

[crusader11]

Brown (-6) at Bryant o/u 49



Think that this is closer to a Pick 'Em.

Bryant looks like the best team in the NEC this season, and played Maine and Stony Brook very tough in close losses.

[Lehigh'98]

LEHIGH @ Columbia - Lehigh wins but doesn't cover

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton - I would love to pick Lafayette here, but 1 win over Bucknell at home isn't enough

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL - Close for a half because its at home, but talent disparity is pretty clear here.

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN - Hoyas are in trouble here, but it will get better..........oh wait, nevermind

Stony Brook @ COLGATE - Not as close as alot of u think

[van]

LEHIGH @ Columbia - hoping for a big first half and get to see some of the back ups get reps

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton - Tigger pretty good, pards not so much, and then there is the curse

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL - Crossers may have found a QB and Buffs can't score anyway

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN - yikes, could get ugly

Stony Brook @ COLGATE - gate just not very good without a healthy McC

[ColgateTD]

Lehigh - - even Marty Domres can't save the Lions in this one.
Princeton - 'Pards haven't shown me enuf yet
Holy Cross - Bison could rise up....NOT
Fordham - The Rams will use the "gov't shutdown" defense to win this one.
Colgate - Melville showed enuf in his debut to get the job done if McCarney is a no-go. Both lines showing improvement last week and Armiento is a stud at FS.

[Fordhamanhattan]

I just bet a Georgetown friend $100 with Fordham -28 1/2 with the loser donating to the others parish church. Yes Georgetown still has Christians even Romans.

[Kramer]

Think that this is closer to a Pick 'Em.

Bryant looks like the best team in the NEC this season, and played Maine and Stony Brook very tough in close losses.

IMO, Bryant is a program heading in the right direction.

[Pard4Life]

Guaranteed 100% investment return... put the farm on Princeton.

[Sader87]

On paper many of this week's match-ups portend mayhem and destruction not seen since this summer's Sharknado. Life imitating art, I see some of these tilts going in this direction...others not so much.

Lehigh 38 Columbia 20 Engineers right the ship on their second trip to Gotham in 7 days.

Fordham 45 Georgetown 13 A case could be made that the Rams let up this week, but Fordham is on a roll and the Hoyas are just plain bad.

Princeton 35 Lafayette 27 Much like our "curse" with Yale (4-27 lifetime...no one else comes close), the Pards can't seem to beat Ol' Nassau, this will continue this season.

Stony Brook 24 Colgate 22 I'd go with the Red Raiders if I knew McCarney was 100%, but the Seawolves eke this out in Hamilton.

Holy Cross 24 Bucknell 16 Gut feeling that we'll win.... but it ain't gonna be pretty.

[RichH2]

From what I saw McCarney questionable for game.xdontknowx

[ngineer]

Lehigh in pretty good shape,physically for upcoming game. However, Cody Kondas, great looking freshman LB is out for several weeks after having surgery. Otherwise, Lehigh reportedly had a great practice Tuesday and Wednesday, so the loss is behind them. I expect a strong showing by the Brown & White as they tune up for the PL.

[Sandlapper Spike]

LEHIGH @ Columbia

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN

Stony Brook @ COLGATE

I would be a little surprised if SB-Colgate was that close, to be honest. I wouldn't be shocked if all of the games were decided by double digits.

[carney2]

put the farm on Princeton.

Even if you have to give the 13 1/2.

[Pard4Life]

Even if you have to give the 13 1/2.

You know it! xbowx

You saw the commentary on the Lafayette board... this is like Colgate part 2... but Princeton will run it better than Colgate, and on steroids... does that mean John Loose will have any sort of clue? And we have a habit of QBs making careers against Bucknell... Even Quilling did not throw INTs against the Bison, and this is a real team we are playing this week. I think I am being generous with the 17 points for us.

[Pard4Life]

As I sit here with my bottle of Jack...

Lehigh 70, Columbia 21... Lehigh may as well get le high in their travels to Bogota... Columbia may have a shot if this is futbol.

Princeton 4.2 x 10^8, Lafayette 17... 999-year agreement for membership of Lafayette grads in the Princeton Club entails Lafayette ineptitude in any match-up with Princeton...

Holy Cross 35, Bucknell 7... bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad football... bad! Bad! Even Sader87 will skip this one because it's in the bag.

Fordham xlolx xawesomex xtroublex, Georgetown xbawlingx xbangxxanim_chaix

Stony Brook 30, Colgate 14... McCarney or no, Stony Brook will win.

[Engineer86]

Lehigh in pretty good shape,physically for upcoming game. However, Cody Kondas, great looking freshman LB is out for several weeks after having surgery. Otherwise, Lehigh reportedly had a great practice Tuesday and Wednesday, so the loss is behind them. I expect a strong showing by the Brown & White as they tune up for the PL.

Kondas is a Sophmore. You may be thinking of Caslow who is a Freshman

[RichH2]

Surgery went well, a scope. Could be back for Gate and Pards..

[Leopard Loyalist]

LEHIGH @ Columbia -Finally, a breather

LAFAYETTE @ Princeton - Against all odds and past performances, but I refuse to believe in curses

HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL - Probably not a runaway, but decisive

FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN - Kyrie, eleison

Stony Brook @ COLGATE - Home cookin' in Hamilton not quite enough

[blackbeard]

Lehigh
Princeton
Holy Cross
Fordham
Stony Brook

[CrusaderBob]

Lehigh
Fordham
Princeton
Stony Brook
Holy Cross

[CFBfan]

Question for Gate. Saw McCarney hurt knee .Serious?

the Gate board is saying that McCarney and DiCicco (their 3rd RB this season) are both out tomorrow.....not looking good for the Raiders

[Lehigh Football Nation]

3-1 last week putting me at 21-10 on the season. Put my heart in front of my brain last week and took Lehigh over Fordham.

Lehigh 42, Columbia 6. Read why here (http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-breakdown-lehigh-at-columbia.html).


Princeton 42, Lafayette 14. They ain't Bucknell.


Holy Cross 35, Bucknell 6. Bison need to show me they're not the worst team in the PL right now. Having Wesley back will help, but not that much.


Fordham 42, Georgetown 24. This won't be as bad as some people think, but it will still be a resounding loss in the end.


Stony Brook 35, Colgate 14. If McCarney trots onto the field and puts up a hero performance, I'm going to be wicked mad. It comes down to who I believe: the message boards, or Newsday and the game notes, which list McCarney as "probable". I'm hoping the message boards are right, because without McCarney, Seawolves run away with this.

[Go...gate]

No squeakers this week, even for my beloved Red Raiders.

Lehigh 55, Columbia 7

Princeton 36, Lafayette 13

Holy Cross 27, Bucknell 6

Fordham 49, Georgetown 10

Stony Brook 32, Colgate 19

[CFBfan]

3-1 last week putting me at 21-10 on the season. Put my heart in front of my brain last week and took Lehigh over Fordham.

Lehigh 42, Columbia 6. Read why here (http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-breakdown-lehigh-at-columbia.html).


Princeton 42, Lafayette 14. They ain't Bucknell.


Holy Cross 35, Bucknell 6. Bison need to show me they're not the worst team in the PL right now. Having Wesley back will help, but not that much.


Fordham 42, Georgetown 24. This won't be as bad as some people think, but it will still be a resounding loss in the end.


Stony Brook 35, Colgate 14. If McCarney trots onto the field and puts up a hero performance, I'm going to be wicked mad. It comes down to who I believe: the message boards, or Newsday and the game notes, which list McCarney as "probable". I'm hoping the message boards are right, because without McCarney, Seawolves run away with this.

so you are picking AND rooting against another PL team in an ooc game......nice

[Lehigh Football Nation]

so you are picking AND rooting against another PL team in an ooc game......nice

Are you kidding? Nothing would make me happier than Colgate winning. I just like to be right on my picks! :D

[CFBfan]

Are you kidding? Nothing would make me happier than Colgate winning. I just like to be right on my picks! :D

ok but here's your quote: "I'm hoping the message boards are right, because without McCarney, Seawolves run away with this."
sounds to me (an what do i know) that you're pulling for stony brook

[RichH2]

ok but here's your quote: "I'm hoping the message boards are right, because without McCarney, Seawolves run away with this."
sounds to me (an what do i know) that you're pulling for stony brook

Dense. Read it again. He picked SB either way but hoped QB out for a sure pick

[Lehigh'98]

Really a stretch to find an upset this week. I would say Lafayette would be the best bet, followed by Colgate , then maybe Bucknell since HC struggles historically in Lewisburg. Really tough to see any of these happening though from my view. If Colgate wins, that would put us at 4-4 against the CAA this year ( 5-3 if they coulda beat the awful Danes). Good luck to all the teams this week.

[Go...gate]

Lafayette is due aganist Princeton, but they always seem to struggle when they play at Palmer or PU Stadium. I saw one of the few LC wins, back in 1982, and I am perplexed that they do not beat Princeton more often. It is not a question of talent, and I don't think it is Tavani's fault - he is a good coach.

[Pard4Life]

Lafayette beat Princeton? Reminds me of a Hall and Oates song... "I can't go for that... no, I can't go for that, no can do."

Also of note, we rank at or near the bottom of national defensive statistical categories where Princeton excels offensively. Not hard to see what's going to happen. Odds of us winning like, 10%?

[Pard4Life]

Forecast for tmrw by Basset's: Princeton odds of winning 70-80%, Lehigh 80-90%.

[BluBengal07]

LEHIGH @ Columbia


LAFAYETTE @ Princeton


HOLY CROSS @ BUCKNELL


FORDHAM @ GEORGETOWN


Stony Brook @ COLGATE

[CFBfan]

Dense. Read it again. He picked SB either way but hoped QB out for a sure pick

what are you his dad?? i know what he said, and only a %#$&* would hope that a kid is hurt so bad that he can't play

[carney2]

Lafayette is due aganist Princeton

It is not a question of talent, and I don't think it is Tavani's fault - he is a good coach.

10,000+ posts, a long-time, solid information source, and you come up with this? Perhaps it's snooze week on the Tundra. Point by point:

The Pards are "due" against Princeton...NEVER. They win only when the gods allow it, which is only when it's snooze week in Valhalla. Ain't gonna happen.

It IS a question of talent. Tavani's recruiting has been at the low end of mediocre and his results show it. Sure, he has a few diamonds, but football is a quantity game. You need lots of bodies - and you need D1 bodies. He doesn't have them. This team is headed for 2-4 wins and yet very few freshmen get on the field. A very bad team and only 3 or 4 from the first scholarship class get reasonable playing time? If that isn't an indictment of the 2013 recruiting class, I don't know what is.

If it isn't Frank Tavani's fault, then who? He's responsible for recruiting and it has been consistently bad. Each year he has from 1 to 3 "no show" games where the team literally goes through the motions. Some of these have even been Squawk games, and that is unforgiveable. He is unimaginative, uncreative and his schemes are outmoded on both sides of the ball. On game day The Frankosaurus is always lurking. Cutting to the chase, and coming from one who probably "knows" more about Lafayette football than you, the Pard football program will not move forward as long as Frank Tavani has an office in Bourger Varsity House.

[Engineer86]

If it isn't Frank Tavani's fault, then who? He's responsible for recruiting and it has been consistently bad. Each year he has from 1 to 3 "no show" games where the team literally goes through the motions. Some of these have even been Squawk games, and that is unforgiveable. He is unimaginative, uncreative and his schemes are outmoded on both sides of the ball. On game day The Frankosaurus is always lurking. Cutting to the chase, and coming from one who probably "knows" more about Lafayette football than you, the Pard football program will not move forward as long as Frank Tavani has an office in Bourger Varsity House.

Can Tavani get tenure?xlolx I do agree with you though the Pards lay too many eggs, he is not a good coach.

[carney2]

Can Tavani get tenure?xlolx I do agree with you though the Pards lay too many eggs, he is not a good coach.

I believe that he has tenure. Not joking, but not 100% certain.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Curse in full effect

[ColgateTD]

Jeez.....LU only two TDs better than Columbia?!? Yikes..what happened? HC looks like gang busters....that Albert Pujols is a real comer at QB....maybe the future Peyton Manning of the PL. One thing's for certain: FU and LU need to be on the lookout for HC in their rearview mirror. Meanwhile Colgate goes to bed (again) without a W. This is a team in abject poverty. Hopefully McCarney and DiCicco return for the PL portion of the schedule and breathe some life into the Red Raiders.

[Pard4Life]

We looked good in the first quarter but I swear we got conservative by the second with a 20-11 lead. Tavani can't adjust and coaches can't coach. What else can be said?

[carney2]

A really bad week for the Patriot League:

Fordham and the Squawks by only 2 TDs in what should have been name-your-score games.

Cross scores 51, but gives up 27 to Buffalo. No one should ever give up 27 to this Bucknell offense.

Colgate scores 3.

Lafayette does not even beat the betting spread in confirming The Curse.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

A really bad week for the Patriot League:

Fordham and the Squawks by only 2 TDs in what should have been name-your-score games.

Both teams with road letdowns after Rumble in the Bronx to some degree. I don't read a lot into Fordham's "only" 2 TD win.

[Go...gate]

10,000+ posts, a long-time, solid information source, and you come up with this? Perhaps it's snooze week on the Tundra. Point by point:

The Pards are "due" against Princeton...NEVER. They win only when the gods allow it, which is only when it's snooze week in Valhalla. Ain't gonna happen.

It IS a question of talent. Tavani's recruiting has been at the low end of mediocre and his results show it. Sure, he has a few diamonds, but football is a quantity game. You need lots of bodies - and you need D1 bodies. He doesn't have them. This team is headed for 2-4 wins and yet very few freshmen get on the field. A very bad team and only 3 or 4 from the first scholarship class get reasonable playing time? If that isn't an indictment of the 2013 recruiting class, I don't know what is.

If it isn't Frank Tavani's fault, then who? He's responsible for recruiting and it has been consistently bad. Each year he has from 1 to 3 "no show" games where the team literally goes through the motions. Some of these have even been Squawk games, and that is unforgiveable. He is unimaginative, uncreative and his schemes are outmoded on both sides of the ball. On game day The Frankosaurus is always lurking. Cutting to the chase, and coming from one who probably "knows" more about Lafayette football than you, the Pard football program will not move forward as long as Frank Tavani has an office in Bourger Varsity House.

OK, carney2, I saw them in person today. I did not think they were as bad as you say. I DO think they have problems with pass blocking, missed assigmnents (they were easy to see from the stands) and too damn many penalties. Is that coaching? Yes. It may be Frank Tavani, or it may be who Tavani hires. I'm sympathetic to Tavani because he inherited a very bad situation much like Biddle did after Arthur Rothkopf left the FB program tied to the RR tracks in front of a 100-mph train and somehow it survived - and Frank brought it back from the brink.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Both teams with road letdowns after Rumble in the Bronx to some degree. I don't read a lot into Fordham's "only" 2 TD win.

Fordham jumped out early then went to sleep in the second half.

LU pretty much never woke up. The mistakes were the biggest issues. LU easily won the physical battle ...

[Sader87]

Holy Cross was a bit sloppy defensively but they were very opportunistic...4 picks.

It was Bucknell, yes, but the offense is looking very, very good.

PL schedule sets up very well for the Crusaders...back to back home games against Gate and the Pards before the game at Lehigh.

This HC freshmen class was VERY under-rated here btw....

[Engineer86]

Holy Cross was a bit sloppy defensively but they were very opportunistic...4 picks.

It was Bucknell, yes, but the offense is looking very, very good.

PL schedule sets up very well for the Crusaders...back to back home games against Gate and the Pards before the game at Lehigh.

This HC freshmen class was VERY under-rated here btw....

Play LU at LU after the LU bye. Not that bad for Lehigh, but I do also fear a let down following three weak teams and a bye.