Bye bye JMU

[danefan]

http://m.timesdispatch.com/sports/college/james-madison/jmu-reviews-options-for-the-future-including-a-potential-fbs/article_7873a6b8-2d3e-11e3-b8fe-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm

[Lehigh Football Nation]

"According to the report, a move to the FBS level would increase revenue between $4.4 and $5.6 million over projections staying at FCS, by the fiscal year 2019. Of course, costs would go up too. The report estimates expenses would grow between $6 and $6.4 million by 2019 with a move to FBS."

Losing an extra $2 million per year. That could be conservative.

[URMite]

And yet...

"The report projects that JMU would be able to pay more of its athletic expenses (between 25.2 and 27.3 percent) with a move to FBS, than it would staying at the FCS level (19 percent by remaining in the CAA)."

???

[GATA_Eagles]

"According to the report, a move to the FBS level would increase revenue between $4.4 and $5.6 million over projections staying at FCS, by the fiscal year 2019. Of course, costs would go up too. The report estimates expenses would grow between $6 and $6.4 million by 2019 with a move to FBS."

Losing an extra $2 million per year. That could be conservative.

Entire document in case you are interested. I'd take a look at page 61 for the differences between C-USA/MAC/Sun Belt: http://www.jmu.edu/madisonfuture/docs/athletics-study.pdf


The financial data indicates that the Athletics Generated Revenue will grow at a larger percentage than expenses with a move to an FBS Conference. The result is Athletics’ Generated Revenue accounting for
between 25.2% and 27.3% of Athletics expenses, up from 19% (with JMU remaining in the CAA). The
trend with the growth in Athletics Generated Revenues outpacing the expenses has the potential to
decrease the University’s reliance on Student Fees.

[FCS_pwns_FBS]

Well, I think we know where JMU's administration stands on FBS.

[wmmii]

It is amazing the poor choices being made by Colleges. A move up often puts the schedule playing opponents that are not traditional rivals plus will disadvantage some BB programs badly........

[Saint3333]

"According to the report, a move to the FBS level would increase revenue between $4.4 and $5.6 million over projections staying at FCS, by the fiscal year 2019. Of course, costs would go up too. The report estimates expenses would grow between $6 and $6.4 million by 2019 with a move to FBS."

Losing an extra $2 million per year. That could be conservative.

I'm sure you have better information yet again...

Give it a rest.

[LoneStar]

Congratulations on taking a shot to better the program and elevating the quality of opponents. Definitely increases the visibility and stature of the football program, I could only hope Towson follows your lead in the future.

[aceinthehole]

"According to the report, a move to the FBS level would increase revenue between $4.4 and $5.6 million over projections staying at FCS, by the fiscal year 2019. Of course, costs would go up too. The report estimates expenses would grow between $6 and $6.4 million by 2019 with a move to FBS."

Losing an extra $2 million per year. That could be conservative.

True, the net cost of the move is probably at least $2 per year. Not a big deal, if the revenue estimates are actually met.

Which brings me to this point - the Dukes Club must step up and they will have to schedule more guarantee games at BCS opponents.

Current annual athletic donations is $2.2M - the sample FBS programs are $4.1M
Current annual guarantee revenue is $0.4M - the sample FBS programs are $1.4M

That is a big nut to crack. IMO - if they can meet these numbers, it may not be a bad move.

[Sader87]

You don't build a stadium like they did and stay FCS imo....

[Apphole]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRfBKhZX3M8

[MplsBison]

"According to the report, a move to the FBS level would increase revenue between $4.4 and $5.6 million over projections staying at FCS, by the fiscal year 2019. Of course, costs would go up too. The report estimates expenses would grow between $6 and $6.4 million by 2019 with a move to FBS."

Losing an extra $2 million per year. That could be conservative.

If the students vote to pay for it with increased fees, then that's that. Nothing more can be said.

[MplsBison]

So, start out in the Sun Belt and then hope things shuffle around to open up a CUSA spot?

[Wallace]

"According to the report, a move to the FBS level would increase revenue between $4.4 and $5.6 million over projections staying at FCS, by the fiscal year 2019. Of course, costs would go up too. The report estimates expenses would grow between $6 and $6.4 million by 2019 with a move to FBS."
Losing an extra $2 million per year. That could be conservative.

http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews.com/log/index.php/2013/10/04/jmu-releases-report-reviewing-football?blog=2

Good you're doing your reading. Another money losing venture and burying the football team (and student-athletes). What is with these starry-eyed administrators?

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

nothing here we didn't already know, study comes out, everyone gets excited, administration still isnt sure they want to move up, and as of this minute, neither the MAC, Sunbelt, or USA are falling over each other to have JMU join their conferences. The best thing JMU could do in the next 4-6 months is make a decision. Right now, the 3 conferences they might join are tired of waiting for them, and their fans and alumi don't have a clue in what direction the program is heading. Its also costing them a lot of money because alot of alumi are waiting to send in donations until they know the direction of the program.

[aceinthehole]

nothing here we didn't already know, study comes out, everyone gets excited, administration still isnt sure they want to move up, and as of this minute, neither the MAC, Sunbelt, or USA are falling over each other to have JMU join their conferences. The best thing JMU could do in the next 4-6 months is make a decision. Right now, the 3 conferences they might join are tired of waiting for them, and their fans and alumi don't have a clue in what direction the program is heading. Its also costing them a lot of money because alot of alumi are waiting to send in donations until they know the direction of the program.

Don't you think JMU has already taken the temperature of those 3 conferences?

Honest question - does it really make any sense for JMU to publicly announce their intent to reclassify as FBS program, without a conference invite assured? I would bet that JMU can get a 'tentative' invite from C-USA, MAC, or the Sun Belt before they upset the apple cart in the CAA. Why piss off your current conference partners, when you don't know if, or when, you'll get an invite to join another conference.

Why should JMU risk being Liberty - FBS intentions, but nowhere to go.

[mountaineer in Cane Land]

so.... you let your alumi, who give money, sitting on their hands wondering what the hell is going on with the program, that's really going to help attendance and donations. All they have to do is, make an official statement ,either we are moving up or not, but the longer they wait, the more it looks like it amateur hour. As far as the CAA goes who give a flip what they think, they are not going to kick them out, they are hurting for programs that actually draw more than 10 thousand a game, and JMU is one of their biggest draws.

[MplsBison]

Don't you think JMU has already taken the temperature of those 3 conferences?

Honest question - does it really make any sense for JMU to publicly announce their intent to reclassify as FBS program, without a conference invite assured? I would bet that JMU can get a 'tentative' invite from C-USA, MAC, or the Sun Belt before they upset the apple cart in the CAA. Why piss off your current conference partners, when you don't know if, or when, you'll get an invite to join another conference.

Why should JMU risk being Liberty - FBS intentions, but nowhere to go.

Maybe they know something we don't, in regards to FCS teams being able to start moving up to FBS *without* a conference invite.


That's how it should be. Then, getting into a conference can be how you get access to the big pie.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Real interesting meeting with JMU's faculty and an honest, erudite discussion on all the issues, actually.

http://www.breezejmu.org/news/article_8eea7b38-39ff-11e3-a149-001a4bcf6878.html

Worth a read. This isn't a "ban football!" sort of discussion: it's a pretty honest assessment of JMU's finances, and for that alone it's a solid read.

[JMUNJ08]

Real interesting meeting with JMU's faculty and an honest, erudite discussion on all the issues, actually.

http://www.breezejmu.org/news/article_8eea7b38-39ff-11e3-a149-001a4bcf6878.html

Worth a read. This isn't a "ban football!" sort of discussion: it's a pretty honest assessment of JMU's finances, and for that alone it's a solid read.

Read this today as well. I was surprised the faculty did not have the pitch forks out really. But, the giving level is the real point that needs to be brought up. If we cannot donate back, this ship isn't going to sail without taking on a ton of water....

[SoCon2013]

You don't build a stadium like they did and stay FCS imo....

Why not? What's wrong with being the best in FCS rather than mediocre in FBS? Not advocating they stay, but just sayin.'