Lehigh @ Fordham: "The Battle for the Patriot"

[Lehigh Football Nation]

:D

My preview:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-preview-lehigh-at-fordham-1052013.html

The fun stuff will have to wait until later, but the main crux of the stuff is in there. More to follow in the same posting.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

hmm....don't think that turned out how you planned bill....

[Bill]

18359

Ok, so I had a few extra minutes at work :)

[Bill]

hmm....don't think that turned out how you planned bill....

You can say that again! I hope no one had a seizure with all that code xrotatehx

[Fordham]

Cannot wait for kickoff! Lehigh definitely gel'ing at the right time. Both teams have shown incredible character throughout the season IMO. Should be an incredible game and as good a game day atmosphere as we have had at Rose Hill in years.

[Bogus Megapardus]

I predict that neither Lehigh nor Fordham will win the Patriot League. xrolleyesx

[citdog]

18359

Ok, so I had a few extra minutes at work :)



xlolx


Rams 35-31.

[heath]

I predict that neither Lehigh nor Fordham will win the Patriot League. xrolleyesx
Fordham can't win but should be playoff bound............Then who's the second team? I say watch out for HC.

[Lehigh'98]

Can't wait!!! As much as we've owned the Rams, this year has a decidedly different feel with Fordham as a clear favorite. It will be something special for this team walking out winners Sat in the Bronx.

[Bogus Megapardus]

Fordham can't win it of course. That's just my polite way of saying that Lehigh won't win the PL. I think it'll be HC or maybe even the Pards.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Updated the game preview with injuries, weather, Vin Scully, and antipasto.

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-preview-lehigh-at-fordham-1052013.html

[Kramer]

Fordham can't win it of course. That's just my polite way of saying that Lehigh won't win the PL. I think it'll be HC or maybe even the Pards.

Seriously? That can't be based on the teams' talent level, or coaching. Why would you think either HC or your Leopards have any realistic chance? The Leopards will only win 2 PL games this year.

[Pard4Life]

Whatever... Patriot League title game is in Easton this weekend. xthumbsdownx

[crusader11]

Patriot League Championship will come November 9th at Goodman -- Lehigh vs. Holy Cross

[ngineer]

I predict that neither Lehigh nor Fordham will win the Patriot League. xrolleyesx

Who is that in your avatar, John Boehner??!

[CFBfan]

FU is going to bury LU, by 3rd 1/4 it won't even be close!!
FU has:
better coach
better players
home field
"can't win th PL" chip on their shoulder

[Lehigh'98]

I do get the sense this is a statement game for Fordham. Yes, they beat Temple & Nova, but this is their chance to say we own this league now. I would love nothing more than to pull that rug out from under them Sat.

[Fordham]

I love it CFB but my natural pre-game pessimism is kicking in. We got run all over last Saturday, exposing what I feared was going to be a weakness of our team - stopping a big OL and run game. Further, Lehigh has shown quite a bit of character this year and just always keeps coming back as well. Just can't seem to knock them out.

If all things click I could see a scenario where we win and maybe even win big. I think the more likely scenario, though, is that it'll be brutally close and one of those games where turnovers, miscues and special teams spell the difference.

Really can't wait. I haven't seen the fanbase and the buzz around the program anywhere near this high, including in the week leading up to the PL championship-deciding game v. HC back in '07. Everyone is pumped!

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I'm openly wondering if it will be a repeat of Holy Cross/Lehigh in 1991. Halftime: 7-6. 45-44 final. xlolx

Reason being both teams seem to "start slow" then find a second, third, fourth, and fifth gear in the second half. xlolx

[Lehigh Football Nation]

I love it CFB but my natural pre-game pessimism is kicking in. We got run all over last Saturday, exposing what I feared was going to be a weakness of our team - stopping a big OL and run game. Further, Lehigh has shown quite a bit of character this year and just always keeps coming back as well. Just can't seem to knock them out.

If all things click I could see a scenario where we win and maybe even win big. I think the more likely scenario, though, is that it'll be brutally close and one of those games where turnovers, miscues and special teams spell the difference.

Really can't wait. I haven't seen the fanbase and the buzz around the program anywhere near this high, including in the week leading up to the PL championship-deciding game v. HC back in '07. Everyone is pumped!

Me neither. Incidentally, this is a tough ticket. A sellout.

[Bill]

LFN - or maybe something like this.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nub0TyvhS4M

I was really looking for Matt Douglas' 46 yarder to end the game back in 2002, but sadly this pre-dates youtube videos!

[World]

Lehigh wins
45-38

[Lehigh Football Nation]

Game Breakdown and Fearless Prediction:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2013/10/game-breakdown-lehigh-at-fordham-1052013.html

I picked Lehigh, but man, this game could go either way.

[ngineer]

LFN - or maybe something like this.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nub0TyvhS4M

I was really looking for Matt Douglas' 46 yarder to end the game back in 2002, but sadly this pre-dates youtube videos!

I was there for that one, too! And I think that was in OT. Douglas was the last PK for us who had long-range potential. Hopefully, Pandy will be the new canon.

[Bill]

I was there for that one, too! And I think that was in OT. Douglas was the last PK for us who had long-range potential. Hopefully, Pandy will be the new canon.

LFN, yes Matt did. Someday when I feel more comfortable here, I'll tell you some great stories regarding our kickers....

[Twentysix]

Fordham by 20.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Fordham by 20.

I'm not sure if Lehigh has lost 5 PL games by 20 or more in the last 20 years. '94 Laffy,'97 Colgate, '06 Laffy and '07 HC are the only games that come to mind. Tomorrow won't add to the list. Fordham is 2-24 all time against LU.

[Twentysix]

I'm not sure if Lehigh has lost 5 PL games by 20 or more in the last 20 years. '94 Laffy,'97 Colgate, '06 Laffy and '07 HC are the only games that come to mind. Tomorrow won't add to the list. Fordham is 2-24 all time against LU.

Historical numbers only matter to fans. Fordham being 2-24 against Lehigh has zero bearing on the game being played tomorrow.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

We'll see!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

About 20 minutes until KO!

Maybe they put the tv cameras on the away side!

[JALMOND]

I don't get much of a chance to see either team. Pleased that we're getting this game out here. Should be a good one before PSU/UM. I got up early for it. Good luck, teams.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Game Time!

A lot of Brown in the stands!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow, that's the locker room?

[JSUBison]

I guarantee an axe would never be allowed at U of Miami.

[JALMOND]

That Fordham QB looks pretty good. Pretty impressive drive.

[danefan]

That Fordham QB looks pretty good. Pretty impressive drive.

Agreed. Looks like a real solid player.

[Lehigh'98]

Ugly early once again

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh starting slow again..

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

No clue why that was against lehigh...

[Lehigh'98]

Oh what a block

[Lehigh'98]

10-0

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Offense needs to get it going. If the defense can get some rest and avoid the big play theyll be ok...

[CFBfan]

Offense needs to get it going. If the defense can get some rest and avoid the big play theyll be ok...

FU is gonna crush LU

[IBleedYellow]

FU is gonna crush LU

This.

[Lehigh'98]

FU is gonna crush LU


That's how it's looking now.. Need a drive here

[JALMOND]

Lehigh seems to have kicked their tempo up a notch here.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD LU!

[Lehigh'98]

TD Lehigh helluva drive

[JALMOND]

Good drive for Lehigh there.

[Engineer86]

This.

NDSU hasn't started yet?

[CFBfan]

TD Lehigh helluva drive


LU must keep that going

[IBleedYellow]

That and I think Fordham is a better football team than Lehigh. Sounds like they just had a great drive to answer and bring it to 10-7, though.

[Lehigh'98]

20-3 UNH

[Engineer86]

20-3 UNH
Wow, saw that game is on comcast

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Not a bad first Q for either team.

[Twentysix]

NDSU hasn't started yet?

Maybe you haven't heard of timezones.

[Lehigh'98]

Too bad LU doesn't wake up til they r down double digits.

[IBleedYellow]

Towson better kick it in high gear. Ouch.

[Engineer86]

Maybe you haven't heard of timezones.

Seems like you know sarcasm, but not all the timexrotatehx

[Twentysix]

Seems like you know sarcasm, but not all the timexrotatehx

Go Fordham!

[Engineer86]

Go Fordham!

Surprise there!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wetzel is good!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LU making them work for it, but theyre converting...

[Engineer86]

LU making them work for it, but theyre converting...

Must get the third down stops.

[CFBfan]

LU in trouble, don't count on 2nd half magic today

[Kramer]

Fordham is the real deal.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

First and goal LU

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD LU!

[Engineer86]

17-14

[Lehigh'98]

TD Hawks, we gots ourselves a game on our hand. Nice LU turnout today.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TO would be nice!

[Twentysix]

TO would be nice!

Agreed, Lehigh should fumble their next kick return.

[IBleedYellow]

If Fordham wants to be the real deal they need to handle Lehigh better than they currently are.

[Engineer86]

UNH now only up 20-17, two West TDs

[Lehigh'98]

You just messing with us Twentysix or u one of those anti Lehigh guys too??

[Engineer86]

If Fordham wants to be the real deal they need to handle Lehigh better than they currently are.

Love how LU is the bench mark!

[Twentysix]

You just messing with us Twentysix or u one of those anti Lehigh guys too??

Haha, I want Fordham to be a real challenger for NDSU, but if they can't put Lehigh away they really aren't.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Big tackle!

[Engineer1985]

You just messing with us Twentysix or u one of those anti Lehigh guys too??


Why are there so many Lehigh haters?

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

This is a big drive! No mistakes!

[Lehigh'98]

Why are there so many Lehigh haters?

Have a hunch it's something to do with our posters always demanding respect. I say let the team do the talking

[IBleedYellow]

I think it's not so much the issue that people have with Lehigh but LFN and Go Lehigh TU owl. Just my opinion, though ;)

[Engineer86]

Why are there so many Lehigh haters?

I will admit, we bring it one. Active posters, poor schedule that we do not blow out and then we trumpet our record.

[Twentysix]

I think it's not so much the issue that people have with Lehigh but LFN and Go Lehigh TU owl. Just my opinion, though ;)

Mostly just this guy http://www.anygivensaturday.com/member.php?161-Lehigh-Football-Nation

[CFBfan]

I think it's not so much the issue that people have with Lehigh but LFN and Go Lehigh TU owl. Just my opinion, though ;)

Yup!!! that's it for me!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

I think it's not so much the issue that people have with Lehigh but LFN and Go Lehigh TU owl. Just my opinion, though ;)

What have I done? Lol

[Twentysix]

Fordham has really bad pass D. Wow.

[Engineer86]

Fordham has really bad pass D. Wow.

Because Lehigh is able to move the ball on them in the air.

[Twentysix]

Because Lehigh is able to move the ball on them in the air.

Because their D isn't even challenging the receivers.

[Twentysix]

Hey they had decent coverage on that third down! Wow.

[Engineer86]

Because their D isn't even challenging the receivers.

I agree given Lehigh's quick release attack. They should

[Twentysix]

Good pressure by Lehigh.

Who starts the 2nd half with the ball?

[Engineer86]

Good pressure by Lehigh.

Who starts the 2nd half with the ball?

I think Lehigh

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Good pressure by Lehigh.

Who starts the 2nd half with the ball?

LU

[Engineer86]

UNH 20-17 with 1:49 left in half

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Holy crap, how did that just happen?

[Engineer86]

Speaking of bad pass D. How do two guys get beat on the same move!

[Lehigh'98]

RU serious?? Watching game with an ex corner of ours. He's going nuts, double move. One thing that can't happen there

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

How do u let Ajala get behind you?

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Some of those Fordham girls were doing legit pushups and a LOT.

[Lehigh'98]

Defense better step the hell up

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LU allowing way too many 3rd and longs...they had them stopped twice

[Engineer86]

Umm ... We have them right where we want them?.?xrotatehxxrotatehxxrotatehx

[Twentysix]

Wow, that was hilariously bad.

Gotta head to the dome. First team that figures out how to defend a pass wins?

[Lehigh'98]

Worst play of season

[Engineer86]

Wow, that was hilariously bad.

Gotta head to the dome. First team that figures out how to defend a pass wins?

i guess you want to see some defense.

[Lehigh'98]

So much for UNH 27-20 Towson

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Umm ... We have them right where we want them?.?xrotatehxxrotatehxxrotatehx

That sure seemed to be Andy Coen's line during his interview going into the locker room.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LU needs to win the TO battle this half. Create an extra possession, or three..

[Lehigh'98]

Wow

[JSUBison]

Man that guy just leveled that DB, wow.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow....

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD LU!

[Engineer86]

Defense??? Let's get a stop!

[Lehigh'98]

No quit in this team

[Lehigh'98]

Can't seem to stop these guys. 3rd down again here

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Too many long conversions...

[Engineer86]

He dropped that pass, at last they are punting

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Be smart on the punt!

Protect the ball!

[Kramer]

Towson really taking it to UNH now, 34-20.

[Engineer86]

Can we do this again???

[Vooter]

We need a freakin' stop here...

[Engineer86]

We need a freakin' stop here...

This

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

A screen pass there could have been the ticket. Cant allow a TD!

[Engineer86]

Our defensive backs have played awful today. How many times do you get beat like that.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Too many big plays

[Lehigh'98]

Heart attack kids may finally have met their match here

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Wow...

Looked legit after review

[Engineer86]

Unbelievable TD LU

[Lehigh'98]

Ok D, time to step up.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

TD LU!

These are two darn good teams....

[Lehigh'98]

Two good offenses

[Engineer86]

A stop please

[Squealofthepig]

Definitely the best game on I can find - both teams are making clutch plays on third down (that is, it's not just poor defenses giving us this score).

[Vooter]

Both teams now employing the famous "Sieve" defensive scheme...

[Engineer86]

Jarvis comes up big that time

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Big play! Protect the ball!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

That will be the difference!

[Engineer86]

I said earlier in the day, why do we have the receiver with the most drops fielding punts!!!!!!,

[Nickels]

Two good offenses
Two very weak D's

[Squealofthepig]

That will be the difference!

Might've been better if he hadn't made that (which was one of the best defensive knockaways I've seen this season). Muffed the punt, then Fordham TD.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Yup, kurfis should have been back...TD FU..

That might do it, too big of a mistake

[Lehigh'98]

Ouch

[Engineer86]

D gets a big stop for nothing. WTF

[Lehigh'98]

Need another one Brandon & co

[Lehigh Football Nation]

That could be a killer.

[Nova09]

This is the worst game thread ever. Everybody is giving reactions with nobody telling us what happened.

[Engineer86]

That could be a killer.

Fumble a punt and the bad TD before the half. Hold that to a FG as well.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

This is the worst game thread ever. Everybody is giving reactions with nobody telling us what happened.

It's actually on CBS Sports Network if you get it.

[Engineer86]

This is the worst game thread ever. Everybody is giving reactions with nobody telling us what happened.

If the reactions don't tell it. LU gets to within 3 and gets a stop, then fumbles the punt and gives up a TD down 10

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

FU does commit a lot of penalties...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Been saying all thread, turnovers....

[Squealofthepig]

Lehigh starts driving the ball after getting great field position on a facemask penalty on the kickoff; three players later, get picked by Fordham. Fordham ball now at about their own 30, 12 seconds left in the 3Q.

[NoDak 4 Ever]

Congratulations Lehigh, you are finally playing a quality regular season opponent.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Congratulations Lehigh, you are finally playing a quality regular season opponent.

And theyve played well. Turnovers the difference. Cant make mistakes against a really good team..

No shame in how lehigh has played

[Lehigh'98]

We better win the league

[Kramer]

Congratulations Lehigh, you are finally playing a quality regular season opponent.

We're working on it, ND4. We're working on it.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

14 points off turnovers. Koonce ran the ball well...

[Kramer]

Down by 17, 4th quarter. We got em right where we want em lol

[Lehigh'98]

Turnovers hurt, but Fordham is just better right now. Congrats to them!! Nice game

[Kramer]

They're a very good team. Looks like the PL is going to get 2 teams in the playoffs this year.

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Turnovers hurt, but Fordham is just better right now. Congrats to them!! Nice game

Fordham is really good. They are worthy of a top ranking.

I still like what I saw from LU minus the TO's and big plays on D. They committed the cardinal sins today...

[Engineer86]

We better win the league

Absolutely agree!

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Well there goes the 20 pt loss theory...lol

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Absolutely agree!

This should be a good wake up moving forward....

The next 3 games set up well...

[Nickels]

Check out the old pervs standing behind the cheerleaders doing push ups...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

LU never quits. TD Hawks!

Maybe LU will get another shot at them...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Fordham 52 Lehigh 34 final

FU is the real deal. They've beaten Villanova, Temple and Lehigh this year. They own me...

No shame for LU. Can't lose the TO battle and give up big plays. 2-1 against PU, UNH, FU is more than respectable. Time to get revenge on NYC next week...

[RichH2]

Congrats to Fordham. They are that much better for sure. Muffed punt turned the game into a rout but unlikely LU could have pulled this one ot. Nebrich is a better McCarney. Jones and Igwala and Wetzel together with Koonce gives them an awesome O. Ok,now to drive home.

D was totally outclassed .

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Congrats to Fordham. They are that much better for sure. Muffed punt turned the game into a rout but unlikely LU could have pulled this one ot. Nebrich is a better McCarney. Jones and Igwala and Wetzel together with Koonce gives them an awesome O. Ok,now to drive home.

Fordham is definitely the better team right now. They DESERVE a Top 10 ranking. Very few teams, if anyone, can match their wins.

LU did nothing to hurt themselves imo. They should rebound nicely next week. They're still a worthy Top 25 team. The defense should be able to build some confidence the next 3 weeks. FU offense is silly good..

FU reminds me of EWU. They could challenge for best PL ever...

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Princeton 53 Columbia 7 early 4Q

Should be a good rebound week for LU..

[Engineer86]

Fordham is definitely the better team right now. They DESERVE a Top 10 ranking. Very few teams, if anyone, can match their wins.

LU did nothing to hurt themselves imo. They should rebound nicely next week. They're still a worthy Top 25 team. The defense should be able to build some confidence the next 3 weeks. FU offense is silly good..

FU reminds me of EWU. They could challenge for best PL ever...

I agree if you watched the game, it was better than the score showed. They are in the 20-25 mix.

[SingForever]

Lehigh's defense is horrible, especially pass defense. I have never seen so many wide open receivers.d
Two very weak D's

[SingForever]

Let the damn ball land on the turf!!!!!!!!!!!!
I said earlier in the day, why do we have the receiver with the most drops fielding punts!!!!!!,

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh's defense is horrible, especially pass defense. I have never seen so many wide open receivers.d

Got to give credit to FU. Their offense is among the nations best. But Yes, LU must get better against the pass...

[Lehigh'98]

Accept the loss. We need to play at a high level to win the league

[Go Lehigh TU Owl]

Lehigh picked a good week to lose. A lot of teams in the 15-25 range are having a worse day than Lehigh...

[Twentysix]

Fordham by 20.

I sure was close. lol.

[RichH2]

Some questions on D. Why rotate only 5 DL. They had nothing left in 4th perod.
LBs were good but CBs were atrocious. I know we play behnd receivers bt this was ridiculous and worse ineffective as they were beat long anyway.Ward solid but Hill kept biting in leaving his side wide open all day.. Our co DCs are not getting this team D in sync. I realize we are inwxperienced but our DBs are not.

[Fordham]

Tremendous game. Lehigh O the best I've seen us play and I've seen every Fordham game in person or on screen. Can't say enough about Coach Moorhead other than that we had better enjoy him while we have him.

[Kramer]

Some questions on D. Why rotate only 5 DL. They had nothing left in 4th perod.
LBs were good but CBs were atrocious. I know we play behnd receivers bt this was ridiculous and worse ineffective as they were beat long anyway.Ward solid but Hill kept biting in leaving his side wide open all day.. Our co DCs are not getting this team D in sync. I realize we are inwxperienced but our DBs are not.

well said. The secondary has not played well all year.

[ngineer]

Got back a short time ago from NYC. Pretty simple observations. With a team as talented as Fordham, you cannot commit turnovers that result in points. Two turnovers in 2:30 resulted in 14 points. Each time the D, though atrocious for a good part of the game, had finally made the needed stop and the opportunity was there to take the lead and shift the momentum.
Defensive secondary has major issues. Cardinal Sin: 20 seconds left in the half, how the heck can any secondary worth a grain of salt let anyone behind them?!!!!!!!!!That just blew my mind. Paris's muffed punt reception was Cardinal Sin #2. It was clear to the other 8,000 people there the punt was going out. Moreover he was looking into the sun which means he should have been even more cautious about trying to field it.
Fordham is an excellent team. The QB is the best we will see this year. To me he is better than Skelton. He has better mechanics, has great feet, and plays with great confidence. Koonce is also the shiftiest back we have seen, hiding behind his blockers and making great cuts. I thought we could have used Sherman more. He was very effective when in there. A tough runner between the tackles.
Not a devastating loss. One most people expected. I picked us to win by three by playing a near perfect game. It was far from that. Rams are well up in the top ten for me. I'd like to get another shot at them in November or December. By then our DC may have figured a few things out.

[Pard4Life]

How many in attendance?

Rams indeed for real. Rest of their schedule is their enemy as they may get complacent. Rams will destroy Lafayette.

[ngineer]

How many in attendance?

Rams indeed for real. Rest of their schedule is their enemy as they may get complacent. Rams will destroy Lafayette.

I am estimating 8000. Supposedly the grandstand seats 7,000-7,500 and there were a few hundred standing around the field behind yellow tape and some even sitting in the baseball stands!

[RichH2]

Agree n, BB's INT was the capper. 2ndary was supposed to be a fairly decent part of D given returning players. I'm getting the impression that Peter Principle is in effecr. Wilcher a very good DB coach and Roberts likewise as DL coach. First time DCs. Seems to me all 3 areas are suffering. Not all of this D this year is inexperience..

Parris made a mental error by even going for the kick that was heading out of bounds but compounded error by letting the ball go through his hands.

[Lehigh Football Nation]

My recap:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-bronx-cheers-as-mountain-hawks-fall.html

Sunday Word:

http://lehighfootballnation.blogspot.com/2013/10/lehighs-day-of-busted-pride-one-to.html